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Open Thread: Cubs vs. Astros, Monday 8/6, 7:05 CT

Alyellontoppscard_tiny by Al Yellon on in Chicago Cubs Game Threads

It's official:

The Chicago Cubs today placed outfielder Alfonso Soriano on the 15-day disabled list with a right quad strain. In corresponding roster moves, Chicago has selected infielder Eric Patterson from Triple-A Iowa and designated infielder Brian Dopirak, currently at Single-A Daytona, for assignment. In addition, pitcher Wade Miller has been placed on waivers to grant his unconditional release.

Patterson will wear uniform No. 3 and looks to make his major league debut tonight in Houston when the Cubs face the Astros at 7:05 p.m. CT.

Ah, Wade, we hardly knew ye. Nor did we really want to. On to tonight's game.

The Cubs haven't played in the Juice Box in Houston for almost a year -- the last Cubs game there was on August 16, 2006, the storybook start of Ryan O'Malley. That entire series was memorable, a Cub sweep: a 3-0 shutout anchored by Carlos Zambrano and an 18-inning win with Rich Hill getting the win in relief were the other two games.

Much has changed for the Cubs since then; even after that sweep they were sixteen games under .500. Meanwhile, the Astros have played poor baseball all year, though better at home (28-25) than on the road (20-38, the worst road record in the NL).

Tonight's Astros starter epitomizes that record. After a disappointing homestand, I'd like to see the Cubs go at least 4-3 on this trip, while the Brewers are going 3-4 (or better yet, 2-5).

 Today's Starting Pitchers
Rich Hill
 R. Hill
Cubs		 vs. Wandy Rodriguez
 W. Rodriguez
Astros
6-6 W-L 7-10
3.67 ERA 4.72
118 SO 107
44 BB 36
21 HR 16
vs. Hou -- vs. Cubs
Wandy Rodriguez looks like the second coming of Roger Clemens in his prime when he's pitching at home: 6-2, 1.76. The Astros have won Wandy's last four home starts dating back to June 15. But, Houston is on a downward spiral right now: they've lost five of their last seven, and Rodriguez has a 2-4, 6.09 lifetime mark vs. the Cubs, including getting pounded hard by Derrek Lee (6-for-9, 2 doubles, 2 HR, five walks), Matt Murton (4-for-11, 2 HR), and in very-small-sample-size-bites, Ryan Theriot (2-for-3, 1 HR), and Angel Pagan (1-for-2, a HR).

In addition to the relief appearance in the 18-inning game mentioned above, Rich Hill has one other career relief appearance against Houston. This will be his first start against the Astros; only Brad Ausmus (1-for-1) has had a hit off him.

Today's game is cable-only in both home markets, so check the Mediacenter.

MLB.com Gameday (2007 version)

MLB.com Gameday (2006 version)

MLB.com Gameday for the Brewers/Rockies game

For the Astros fan point of view on this series, please visit my SB Nation counterpart The Crawfish Boxes. Please. They seem kind of lonely over there.

Discuss amongst yourselves.

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Wade Miller
I thought he could have been a better pitcher and help this team out. He is just Prior 2.0 apparently.
Now that he is back, play Matt Murton!!

by Chanman25 on Aug 6, 2007 4:10 PM CDT reply actions  

So now that Dopirak is DFA'd...
what happens to him?
Neifi, we hardly knew ye.

by Krande on Aug 6, 2007 4:12 PM CDT reply actions  

Options
can be traded, sent down to minors, or just released
Now that he is back, play Matt Murton!!

by Chanman25 on Aug 6, 2007 4:13 PM CDT up reply actions  

Minors?
He already is in the minors - in single A.  A trade is a possibility, but being released outright is extremely unlikely for Dopirak.
visit the mindful mission.

by big_lowitzki on Aug 6, 2007 4:39 PM CDT up reply actions  

What happens...
He gets placed on waivers, and any team can claim him.  

If he clears waivers, he stays with the Cubs but is no longer on the 40 man roster.

visit the mindful mission.

by big_lowitzki on Aug 6, 2007 4:38 PM CDT up reply actions  

But doesn't everyone love this?
You read about a player two or three years earlier and wonder when they will reach the majors and finally they do! Same with Pie and Guzman.
Now that he is back, play Matt Murton!!

by Chanman25 on Aug 6, 2007 4:13 PM CDT reply actions  

Agreed.
It'll be fun to finally get a look at E-Patt after hearing so much about him this year. This part of the year does make baseball fun, when you get to see the new guys everyone's talked about. I hope E-Patt lives up to all of it! The Cubs could use a pick-me-up like that...
"One thing you learn as a Cubs fan: When you bought your ticket, you could bank on seeing the bottom of the ninth." - Joe Garagiola

by gary varsho on Aug 6, 2007 4:31 PM CDT up reply actions  

August 2006
My former boyfriend - an Astro's fan - broke up with me on my B-day, 4 days before that 2006 series.  And my Great, Wonderful Cub team kicked his team's ass !!!   Just another reason I love the Cubs..

by coral on Aug 6, 2007 4:18 PM CDT reply actions  

Good to see you are not bitter. :)
Football and basketball are just things to do between baseball seasons.

by MetsSuck on Aug 6, 2007 4:28 PM CDT up reply actions  

Yeah, although Cub Nation
was totally bummed over 2006, I was so proud because of that series !!!!

by coral on Aug 6, 2007 4:35 PM CDT up reply actions  

What an ass
that guy had to be to break up with you on your birthday.  When it's over it's over, but he should at least have the decency to get you a gift and break up a couple days later.  I hope you rubbed the sweep in his face just a little.

I once had a girl tell me she was seeing someone else on Valentine's day after I had already made plans for us.  Ouch...

"Look, what's important is to be in first place on the last day of the season." -Lou 8/1/07

by 26.2cubfan on Aug 6, 2007 5:58 PM CDT up reply actions  

What time do we usually get lineups....
I am pretty curious for tonights
"The game is always healthier when the Cubs are good, and in a week they have made themselves a whole lot better."

by BillHoldenFan on Aug 6, 2007 4:33 PM CDT reply actions  

I don't think EPatt will start
Think it'll be the same ole' guys out there in R/L fields.
Feel the Brees.

by SouthernBrees on Aug 6, 2007 4:36 PM CDT up reply actions  

True
But Patterson's team played a day game and the Cubs players finished a Sunday night game around 10:00pm.  That's not quite like having to rest Aramis on day games following night games, but still it's something to consider.

by IllinoisCubs on Aug 6, 2007 4:40 PM CDT up reply actions  

Good point
Maybe we'll see him in a pinch hitting role, just to get his feet wet.
Feel the Brees.

by SouthernBrees on Aug 6, 2007 4:42 PM CDT up reply actions  

I suspect you're right...
I expect we see Theriot and Fontenot batting 1/2, and some combination of Floyd/Murton/DeRosa/Pagan in RF and LF.

I hope I'm wrong, as I'd like to see what the kid can do.  But Lou has a tendency to be tight with the PT for youngsters, so I wouldn't be shocked if Patterson is relegated to bench duty.

by SouthernCub on Aug 6, 2007 4:40 PM CDT up reply actions  

Floyd/Murton/DeRosa/Pagan
Hopefully we get all four
"The game is always healthier when the Cubs are good, and in a week they have made themselves a whole lot better."

by BillHoldenFan on Aug 6, 2007 4:46 PM CDT up reply actions  

I read the write up of the Cubs/Mets game
in the LA Times today.  It was the Newsday (actually Ny Newsday, I'm sure) wire.  The article was 20% devoted to how the Mets scored and 80% devoted to quotes about Glavine.  Nothing about Soriano and his key (from the Cub's standpoint) injury.  Typical NY-centric coverage of a game.

I couldn't help but think this was fitting coverage of this game.  Maybe this will have the nice "Karma" impact on the Cubs that we need in that (a) our new lead-off hitter and call up will spark this team and (b) Soriano's late season return will haunt the Mets.

As Cub fans, all we can do is hope.  This just adds to my dislike of the Mets and the "the world revolves around me" NY media.

That white W flag is the most beautiful sight to see. Go Cubs Go!!

by LAcarl519 on Aug 6, 2007 4:40 PM CDT reply actions  

Well...
... I hate to tell you, but Glavine winning 300 is a MUCH bigger deal than Soriano getting injured.  
visit the mindful mission.

by big_lowitzki on Aug 6, 2007 4:45 PM CDT up reply actions  

Yes, it is.
But you'd think an injury to a star player making as much money as Soriano is would at least rate a mention.
"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al Yellon on Aug 6, 2007 4:48 PM CDT up reply actions  

The same unfortunate omission...
happened on the story on the Ap wire that appeared today in a lot of papers aound the country.

by Fraggin Judge on Aug 6, 2007 5:00 PM CDT up reply actions  

Well duh...
But to have 25 paragraphs on Glavine and zero on Soriano's injury, was classic NY coverage.  Don't apologize unless you read the lousy article.
That white W flag is the most beautiful sight to see. Go Cubs Go!!

by LAcarl519 on Aug 6, 2007 4:49 PM CDT up reply actions  

Well...
... lets see.  It was an article by a NY paper, about a player on a NY team, reaching one of the most impressive milestones in modern baseball.  

What do you expect?

Few people around the country care that Soriano hurt his quad.  

visit the mindful mission.

by big_lowitzki on Aug 6, 2007 4:56 PM CDT up reply actions  

The LA Times...
...is a New York paper?
FREE CARMEN PIGNATIELLO!

by cwyers on Aug 6, 2007 4:57 PM CDT up reply actions  

Read?
Did you read the original comment?  Or the article?

The article was not written by an LA Times reporter.  It was written by a Newsday reporter.   The LA Times just picked it up off the wire.

visit the mindful mission.

by big_lowitzki on Aug 6, 2007 4:59 PM CDT up reply actions  

The Tribune
should have intervened!
It is AUGUST, and we're STILL IN IT! YES!

by TheEman on Aug 6, 2007 5:41 PM CDT up reply actions  

There were many elements
...to this game. The most important was Glavine's 300th victory and most writers covered that angle.
 But also Kerry Wood made his season debut. And this was important to Cub fans.
 Soriano getting hurt was the top angle for Cub fans. I think Lou put Kerry into the game to give the fans something to cheer about.
 Then what about the plate umpire who got smacked in the face with a foul ball? That was kind of an unusual event.

by Butchoh31 on Aug 6, 2007 5:44 PM CDT up reply actions  

Both
the LA Times and Newsday are owned, like the Cubs, by the Tribune Corporation.

The Tribune has fired a ton of reporters and told them to just run crap from other Tribune-owned papers instead because it's cheaper.

It's also a big reason why I cancelled my subscription.  The Tribune took a great newspaper and turned it into a piece of mediocre crap.  

I'd like to say they did the same for the Cubs, but the Cubs were godawful terrible before the Trib bought them.

That's how bad the Cubs were under the Wrigleys.  The Tribune made them better.

by Josh Timmers on Aug 6, 2007 5:45 PM CDT up reply actions  

There was a very extensive
"Front Line" report that aired on PBS this past season dealing with the a local LA businessman trying to wrest it from the Tribune - as you know, this did not pan out unfortunately.
It is AUGUST, and we're STILL IN IT! YES!

by TheEman on Aug 6, 2007 6:02 PM CDT up reply actions  

That's how it works
The AP has been running multiple stories about "the milestone chase" that has been going on recently. The story about the game in which Bonds hit his 755th home run was focussed on the homer, mainly. The story about the game in which A-Rod hit his 500th HR, more about the homer than the game... I'm not saying it's the best thing in the world, but many times the reporter is looking for an angle, something to separate the game from countless other game stories. Thus, the coverage on the milestone. It wasn't that remarkable a game, was it? Can you blame the writer for making the story about Glavine? I don't think it's NY-centricism, in either the piece you are referring to or the AP story, it's just looking for the "big story" and focusing on it. Sells papers.
Missing Wrigley summers since 1998.

by cervantes05 on Aug 6, 2007 5:15 PM CDT up reply actions  

"Dopirate"
It's sad about Dopirak - when he was playing in Spring Training last year, every time they called his name, people did kept doing the Pirate 'garrrr'. That would have been fun for a bit at the big league level.  I guess it saves us from getting sick of it, though.  
"Something has to give and since there aren't 8 or 9 pitchers sitting around on the trade market, I think it has to be El Suckerpuncho." - TMOX, 6/14/07

by TMOX on Aug 6, 2007 4:48 PM CDT reply actions  

Jim Rose on ABC7 is....
a jerk.  On reporting about Soriano he states "basic tenent of going to the post season is to stay healthy - all great teams do".  So our local sports guy has basically considered the Cubs not a great team when we haven't even seen the result of these developments.

by coral on Aug 6, 2007 4:55 PM CDT reply actions  

I would disagree
Completely. The best thing that good teams do is play THROUGH injuries. Every team gets them. It's just a question of which and how important the players that it happens to are and how the team as a whole plays through them and continues winning.
Feel the Brees.

by SouthernBrees on Aug 6, 2007 5:05 PM CDT up reply actions  

all great teams do?
does he not remember last year when pujols went on the DL and the cardinals won, or how the colts lost Bob Sanders, their best defensive safety, and still won the super bowl? i dont like local sports "experts", they all seem to lack in basic knowledge
Dinosaurs? "Didn't exist. You can't say there were dinosaurs when you never saw them." -Carl Everett

by NDcubsfan on Aug 6, 2007 5:07 PM CDT up reply actions  

He's just a terrible sports reporter
He sounds as if he hasn't watched a game in years

by coral on Aug 6, 2007 5:11 PM CDT up reply actions  

The Bears
The Bears lost their 2nd best player imo Tommie Harris and went to the Super Bowl.

Of course the defense played like swiss cheese in the super bowl and Peyton Manning had them for lunch while Grossman was losing his lunch but they made it.

I just want the Cubs to top the Bears NFC Title Game as my highlight of the year.

by puckishcubsfan on Aug 6, 2007 5:43 PM CDT up reply actions  

yup
harris is an animal
Dinosaurs? "Didn't exist. You can't say there were dinosaurs when you never saw them." -Carl Everett

by NDcubsfan on Aug 6, 2007 6:26 PM CDT up reply actions  

I live in Texas
and cant tell you how much I HATE the Crapstros.  I hope we beat them silly tonight.  The bandwagon jumping got WAY out of control after 2005 and people I knew claiming to be Rangers fans were all the sudden Crapstros fans.  God, I hope we bludgeon them tonight.  

by jshipp on Aug 6, 2007 5:20 PM CDT reply actions  

And dont even get me started...
on their tittie baby tv broadcast crew.  UGH!!!

by jshipp on Aug 6, 2007 5:21 PM CDT up reply actions  

Um...
... that's an inappropriate comment. You may not like the Astros TV crew, but "tittie baby" is something I'd rather you not use here any more.

Thanks.

"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al Yellon on Aug 6, 2007 6:10 PM CDT up reply actions  

really?
I dont think its offensive at all.
Quade!

by mikew on Aug 6, 2007 6:51 PM CDT up reply actions  

I could think of a million
worse things to call Hawk Harrelson.

by jshipp on Aug 6, 2007 7:10 PM CDT up reply actions  

That's nice to know.
Feel free to use all of them. Just don't do it here.
"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al Yellon on Aug 6, 2007 8:00 PM CDT up reply actions  

Why not call up Pie
I don't understand why they didn't call up Pie.  Is Patterson going to play CF?  He's a second baseman.  
Don't we already have too many middle infielders between Theriot, Fontenot and Derosa?  

by Tim Madrid on Aug 6, 2007 5:24 PM CDT reply actions  

He's a (BAD) second baseman
Fumbles, drops, E-4, E-4, E-4
It is AUGUST, and we're STILL IN IT! YES!

by TheEman on Aug 6, 2007 5:42 PM CDT reply actions  

Lineup...I just threw up on my shoe
Name AVG HR RBI SB
  1. R Theriot, SS .280 3 31 19
  2. R Cedeno, 2B .143 2 6 1
  3. D Lee, 1B .326 12 58 5
  4. A Ramirez, 3B .317 16 69 0
  5. M Murton, LF .254 1 10 1
  6. M DeRosa, RF .286 7 54 0
  7. A Pagan, CF .273 4 21 4
  8. J Kendall, C .267 0 4 0
  9. R Hill, P .128 0 3 0
I survived VWR 2007

by akcubfan on Aug 6, 2007 5:44 PM CDT reply actions  

OY VEY!
On the bright side for the players, if this stinks, no one will be around to boo.
It is AUGUST, and we're STILL IN IT! YES!

by TheEman on Aug 6, 2007 5:49 PM CDT up reply actions  

Just Noticed - Cedeno @ 2nd?!!!
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!

I lost it on him when he avoided a hard slide on a steal attempt last year when he played against the Mets.

He was afraid, and instead of laying the glove there which beat the runner - he pulls out. Ugh!

OMG.

It is AUGUST, and we're STILL IN IT! YES!

by TheEman on Aug 6, 2007 5:51 PM CDT up reply actions  

nice....
Those comments by Lee and Floyd still really buggin me...
Let me get back to you, will ya, Charlie? I got a guy on the other line asking about some white walls.

by JB 23 on Aug 6, 2007 7:04 PM CDT up reply actions  

You do know
the Astros are throwing a lefty tonight, right?

That seems like a pretty standard lineup for us without Soriano and with a lefty on the mound.   I might move Murton to #2 and bad Cedeño lower, but batting Murton #5 makes sense too.

by Josh Timmers on Aug 6, 2007 5:51 PM CDT up reply actions  

Yep. Agreed.
Murton at 5 I would feel much more comfortable with.
It is AUGUST, and we're STILL IN IT! YES!

by TheEman on Aug 6, 2007 5:53 PM CDT up reply actions  

so batting the guy
with the .143 average in the 2 hole is the new secret to beating lefties?
I survived VWR 2007

by akcubfan on Aug 6, 2007 5:55 PM CDT up reply actions  

I'm not that fond of Cedeno either.
But geez, the guy's on the roster. He was raking in AAA just like Soto and Murton and Pie and every other player everyone here seems to want recalled.

If he's on the roster, every now and then he should start. Tonight's a good time to do that vs. a LHP.

I imagine we'll see Patterson making several starts this roadtrip, perhaps as soon as tomorrow.

"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al Yellon on Aug 6, 2007 6:12 PM CDT up reply actions  

I'm not saying he shouldn't start
he just shouldn't bat in the 2 spot.  He's a mental error waiting to happen both in the field and on the base path (if he is able to get that far).
I survived VWR 2007

by akcubfan on Aug 6, 2007 6:15 PM CDT up reply actions  

although his play in the field has nothing to do
with his spot in the lineup...
I survived VWR 2007

by akcubfan on Aug 6, 2007 6:16 PM CDT up reply actions  

Oh, I agree...
... I wouldn't hit him 2nd, either. In that lineup, I'd hit Cedeno 8th and Kendall 2nd.

But maybe he'll surprise us tonight and play well.

Yes, I mean you. Stop snickering! ;)

"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al Yellon on Aug 6, 2007 6:23 PM CDT up reply actions  

What a strange lineup.
I hope it works.

phat

by phatass on Aug 6, 2007 6:04 PM CDT up reply actions  

What did
Fontenot do to be held out of the lineup again?  Especially when he's a better fit in the 2-spot than Cedeno, and a better second baseman too!

We'd be better of shipping Cedeno to anywhere else...

"It's a pier 9 brawl!..."

by rrobinson on Aug 6, 2007 6:12 PM CDT up reply actions  

Lou's employing an all RH lineup
vs. a LHP. Fonty's a LH, therefore, he sits tonight.
"One thing you learn as a Cubs fan: When you bought your ticket, you could bank on seeing the bottom of the ninth." - Joe Garagiola

by gary varsho on Aug 6, 2007 6:22 PM CDT up reply actions  

These all RH lineups against LH
pitchers are a big 0-??.  We have yet to produce a victory that I can recall with these all RH line ups.  I agree with Bob Brenley's thinking that the lefty pitcher can get too comfortable with hitting his spots without a couple of lefties mixed in.

The other thing I don't like is this leaves Lou with very few RH options off the bench late in the game when we need pinch hitters (and with R. Hill, we usually need a few pinch hitters).  I tend to not second-guess Lou and I hope this all RH line up FINALLY works against Wandy "You can't beat me at home" Rodriguez.  

It would be nice to get this road trip off to a positive start!!

That white W flag is the most beautiful sight to see. Go Cubs Go!!

by LAcarl519 on Aug 6, 2007 6:37 PM CDT up reply actions  

Fontenot's platoon splits:
Vs. Righties:

.339/.397/.504

Vs. Lefties:

.227/.265/.364

FREE CARMEN PIGNATIELLO!

by cwyers on Aug 6, 2007 6:36 PM CDT up reply actions  

His splits against LHP's
are still 80 points higher than Cedeno's total.

by MiniAndretti on Aug 6, 2007 7:23 PM CDT up reply actions  

ugly lineup.
if you're going to bring patterson up, at least put him in there instead of cedeno. if his defense is that bad, then why the hell bring him up. why not bring up the guy who can actually play defense, and play it better than our current guys (i.e. pie)?
"If you play more than two chords, you're showing off."--Woody Guthrie

by buckmulligan on Aug 6, 2007 6:44 PM CDT up reply actions  

I would assume....
...that with Patterson called up, we're going to see a lot of DeRosa in right, Floyd in left?

by carmenfanzone on Aug 6, 2007 5:45 PM CDT reply actions  

Bad idea ( DeRosa in RF)
I watched him in the OF in spring training and it is NOT his
strong suite. I would not play him there except in extreme situations.
This does seem like the most bizarre line up of the year
FYI
"It's the Cubbies. There's always a vibe. It's the greatest vibe in baseball." Greg Maddux on Cub fan's optimism even after the 06 debacle.

by jessica on Aug 6, 2007 5:53 PM CDT up reply actions  

DeRosa has played...
...numerous games in RF since spring training for us. Kindof odd to evaluate him based on ST now.
FREE CARMEN PIGNATIELLO!

by cwyers on Aug 6, 2007 5:55 PM CDT up reply actions  

Did you mean someone else?
Did you mean someone else perhaps?

DeRosa has played numerous times in RF.  He's no Andre Dawson but comports himself okay.

I just want the Cubs to top the Bears NFC Title Game as my highlight of the year.

by puckishcubsfan on Aug 6, 2007 6:00 PM CDT up reply actions  

Oh I have seen since Spring Training
That was just where I got the feeling the OF was not for him
( except in pinch) I doubt it effected the game but he fielded poorly last night. He can make a few good plays but all things considered I would seriously prefer JJ or Floyd out there and I know that is scary.
"It's the Cubbies. There's always a vibe. It's the greatest vibe in baseball." Greg Maddux on Cub fan's optimism even after the 06 debacle.

by jessica on Aug 6, 2007 6:20 PM CDT up reply actions  

Wandy Rodriguez scary
in the "Astrodome".

DIG This:

IP     H    R    ER    HR    BB    K     ERA        WHIP     BAA   
66.2    48    13    13    4    14    56    1.76       0.93     .202

Pretty scary, here.   

It is AUGUST, and we're STILL IN IT! YES!

by TheEman on Aug 6, 2007 5:46 PM CDT reply actions  

Wandy Rodriguez
is also an awesome human being who travels around the world in his spare time helping old ladies cross the street and giving them money.

by jshipp on Aug 6, 2007 5:51 PM CDT reply actions  

After tonights start Wandy Rodriquez
Will single handedly repair the I-35W bridge in Minneapolis and it will be completed by his next start.

What a guy

"It's the Cubbies. There's always a vibe. It's the greatest vibe in baseball." Greg Maddux on Cub fan's optimism even after the 06 debacle.

by jessica on Aug 6, 2007 5:57 PM CDT up reply actions  

The Virgin Islands had to change their name to
The Islands after being visited by Wandy.
I survived VWR 2007

by akcubfan on Aug 6, 2007 5:59 PM CDT up reply actions  

Wandy
The secret is the Rex Grossman of the first 5 games of last season was Wandy in disguise.

But after that Wandy had to save the world and alas Rex stepped in.

I just want the Cubs to top the Bears NFC Title Game as my highlight of the year.

by puckishcubsfan on Aug 6, 2007 6:01 PM CDT up reply actions  

HA HA!!
LOL!
It is AUGUST, and we're STILL IN IT! YES!

by TheEman on Aug 6, 2007 6:03 PM CDT up reply actions  

I heard....
that Superman wears Wandy Rodriquez pajamas.

by coral on Aug 6, 2007 5:53 PM CDT reply actions  

LOL!
I literally just laughed out loud. I am now getting weird looks from others in my office...

by Tangled Up In Blue on Aug 6, 2007 5:57 PM CDT up reply actions  

same here
I'm trying to explain it to my little kids who are asking why I'm laughing at the computer!

Kudos!

by Ghost of Fred Merkle on Aug 6, 2007 6:05 PM CDT up reply actions  

oh my, that is funny...
Let me get back to you, will ya, Charlie? I got a guy on the other line asking about some white walls.

by JB 23 on Aug 6, 2007 7:06 PM CDT up reply actions  

Thank god
 this is the only lefty we'll see for awhile. jeebus, what a line-up...
Tinker to Evers to Chance.

by Matt Allison on Aug 6, 2007 5:56 PM CDT reply actions  

Wandy
Wandy IS Chuck Norris in disguise.
I just want the Cubs to top the Bears NFC Title Game as my highlight of the year.

by puckishcubsfan on Aug 6, 2007 5:58 PM CDT reply actions  

No.
Wandy Rodriguez is Moses.
It is AUGUST, and we're STILL IN IT! YES!

by TheEman on Aug 6, 2007 6:04 PM CDT up reply actions  

No.
Wandy Rodriguez is the reincarnation of the Enlightened Buddha and the representation to all mankind of the Hindu deity Vishnu--both in one single human form.

by zevkalman on Aug 6, 2007 6:20 PM CDT up reply actions  

No.
Wandy Rodriguez is Max Power.
"One thing you learn as a Cubs fan: When you bought your ticket, you could bank on seeing the bottom of the ninth." - Joe Garagiola

by gary varsho on Aug 6, 2007 6:27 PM CDT up reply actions  

nice pull!
:)
"And Cubs fans: Play nice or go home." - Jeff Sackmann

by ilovepie on Aug 6, 2007 6:34 PM CDT up reply actions  

HA!
Dinosaurs? "Didn't exist. You can't say there were dinosaurs when you never saw them." -Carl Everett

by NDcubsfan on Aug 6, 2007 6:34 PM CDT up reply actions  

I could be mistaken, but
wasn't that a Wandy Rodriguez BLIMP by Oak Street Beach, today?
It is AUGUST, and we're STILL IN IT! YES!

by TheEman on Aug 6, 2007 6:39 PM CDT up reply actions  

No
wandy slams revolving doors
Dinosaurs? "Didn't exist. You can't say there were dinosaurs when you never saw them." -Carl Everett

by NDcubsfan on Aug 6, 2007 6:39 PM CDT up reply actions  

He once went to the Virgin Islands for a week.
Once he left, it was just called The Islands.
"Ohmygodicantbelievewereonlyonehalfgameoutandhavethechancetotieforthedivisionleadwithawintonight!" - santoswoodenlegs

by NittanyCub on Aug 6, 2007 6:40 PM CDT up reply actions  

Umm..Sorry...
akcubfan used this one already.

Perhaps you are thinking of a DIFFERENT Wandy Rodriguez?

It is AUGUST, and we're STILL IN IT! YES!

by TheEman on Aug 6, 2007 6:45 PM CDT up reply actions  

Dang, didn't see it
Nevermind
"Ohmygodicantbelievewereonlyonehalfgameoutandhavethechancetotieforthedivisionleadwithawintonight!" - santoswoodenlegs

by NittanyCub on Aug 6, 2007 8:05 PM CDT up reply actions  

Good news?
Out of the 24 games the Cubs play in August, 18 of them are against teams with worse records than the Cubs.

by blueapple on Aug 6, 2007 6:39 PM CDT reply actions  

Lou on Soriano (on pre-game):
Got the results of the MRI

He is "walking normal";

He tore the "belly of the quad"

Trainer says out till "about Labor Day."

Why does everybody stand up and sing "Take Me Out to the Ballgame" when they're already there? ~Larry Anderson

by JohnM on Aug 6, 2007 6:48 PM CDT reply actions  

There is only one
move for the Cubs and that is to move forward and that needs to happen tonight. I have faith that they will too.

Rich needs to get his head in the game early and leave it there. Nice to see Matt get a chance and I hope he takes advantage of it.

GO CUBS!!!

I love this team!!!!!

by sue369 on Aug 6, 2007 6:50 PM CDT reply actions  

Agreed
I am so glad that DLEE is Tall and has the range of Spiderman.
It is AUGUST, and we're STILL IN IT! YES!

by TheEman on Aug 6, 2007 7:00 PM CDT up reply actions  

astros lineup
i was just looking at the astros lineup tonite. they look kind of stocked. with wigginton at third now...even with everett and pence, this team looks like they might knock us around. hopefully rich proves me wrong...

by rockpantson on Aug 6, 2007 7:00 PM CDT reply actions  

I hope
you are being sarcastic.

They lead off with Biggio and Loretta. They've got Brad Ausmus and Jason Lane in the lineup.  

With the pitcher, over half the lineup isn't anything worth worrying about.

by Josh Timmers on Aug 6, 2007 7:04 PM CDT up reply actions  

ugh
MLB.TV is using the Houston feed

by blueapple on Aug 6, 2007 7:01 PM CDT reply actions  

Prepare yourself
for 3 hours of sucktitude.  Im telling you these guys are one of the worst in the league.

by jshipp on Aug 6, 2007 7:12 PM CDT up reply actions  

They arent as bad as
I thought they would be.  So far praised Lee's bat and power, as well as his speed.

We'll see... I might switch to Ron and Pat.

by blueapple on Aug 6, 2007 7:14 PM CDT up reply actions  

Yeah, they're probably used
to their team being horribly hideous crap, but at the first of the year I really thought they would break down into tears.

by jshipp on Aug 6, 2007 7:15 PM CDT up reply actions  

atta way ronnie
1st to 3rd baby

lets get em early!

by DartmouthCubsFan on Aug 6, 2007 7:09 PM CDT reply actions  

NOT a strike!
"One thing you learn as a Cubs fan: When you bought your ticket, you could bank on seeing the bottom of the ninth." - Joe Garagiola

by gary varsho on Aug 6, 2007 7:11 PM CDT reply actions  

Ramirez has been really impatient lately.
"One thing you learn as a Cubs fan: When you bought your ticket, you could bank on seeing the bottom of the ninth." - Joe Garagiola

by gary varsho on Aug 6, 2007 7:11 PM CDT reply actions  

What a terrible AB by Rammy.
That was not good at all.
"One thing you learn as a Cubs fan: When you bought your ticket, you could bank on seeing the bottom of the ninth." - Joe Garagiola

by gary varsho on Aug 6, 2007 7:13 PM CDT reply actions  

I was at the grocery store,..
and didn't have my Supersaver card.  Wandy Rodriguez showed up with his, and saved me $1.88!!
"Guess what! I got a fever, and the only prescription... is more !Neifi!" -- Dusty Baker

by TedAbernathy on Aug 6, 2007 7:14 PM CDT reply actions  

Crap
I love this team!!!!!

by sue369 on Aug 6, 2007 7:15 PM CDT reply actions  

well off to a great start again
why the hell cant our useless players like ohman or cedeno tear a quad
Bring back the damn cowbell!

by CubsBall2202 on Aug 6, 2007 7:17 PM CDT reply actions  

We would be up 1-0
after a Sori solo shot.
I survived VWR 2007

by akcubfan on Aug 6, 2007 7:20 PM CDT up reply actions  

I'm sorry we can't all live
in a life of self induced depression.
I survived VWR 2007

by akcubfan on Aug 6, 2007 7:24 PM CDT up reply actions  

You mean like
the ledge-jumpers who have been in abundance around here since the Soriano injury?

by Not Bruce Froemming on Aug 6, 2007 7:27 PM CDT up reply actions  

There is
no guarantee that would happen.
I love this team!!!!!

by sue369 on Aug 6, 2007 7:26 PM CDT up reply actions  

rodriguez would have
struck out the side, that's what

by vtcub on Aug 6, 2007 7:21 PM CDT up reply actions  

Game is off to a bad start
we just got 4 outs versus a horrible pitcher with the top of our lineup and couldn't score

additionally this ump looks like he has a small strike zone especially on the breaking pitches, so that does not bode well for Rich Hill.  

On that note the game can start horribly as long as it ends positively with a cubs win, here's hoping for a turn around

by INWes44 on Aug 6, 2007 7:17 PM CDT reply actions  

why is it that our pitchers always seem to throw
so many damn balls, just let your defense do the work, make them earn it
Bring back the damn cowbell!

by CubsBall2202 on Aug 6, 2007 7:20 PM CDT reply actions  

Ron really
sounds like he's going to blow a gasket about the umpires.

phat

by phatass on Aug 6, 2007 7:22 PM CDT reply actions  

OK guys
now let's get those bats going.
I love this team!!!!!

by sue369 on Aug 6, 2007 7:24 PM CDT reply actions  

in light of ohman sucking horribly
anyone know how cotts has been doin at iowa?  last time i heard he was doin terrible, but maybe its changed?
Bring back the damn cowbell!

by CubsBall2202 on Aug 6, 2007 7:26 PM CDT reply actions  

I don't think its a mistake
that we keep recalling Cherry.

by MiniAndretti on Aug 6, 2007 7:27 PM CDT up reply actions  

Murton played that well
Brew Crew: We have arrived -- now step aside.

by daver on Aug 6, 2007 7:35 PM CDT reply actions  

It's weird how small that field appears.
It's like a Little League park.
Tinker to Evers to Chance.

by Matt Allison on Aug 6, 2007 7:36 PM CDT reply actions  

on the replay
the runner stole that on Hill

by zevkalman on Aug 6, 2007 7:37 PM CDT up reply actions  

thats fair
but we've allowed 24 SBs in the 15 games (15th tonight) that Kendall has been catching...

we've never had that kind of rate with anyone else catching even Barrett who was always lambasted for his poor defense

by DartmouthCubsFan on Aug 6, 2007 7:39 PM CDT up reply actions  

How much longer til Ronnie makes
an error? Doesnt have one yet, I think I would ve already lost a bet.
We will see some beautiful things come the fall.

by Me and Lou WS 07 on Aug 6, 2007 7:38 PM CDT reply actions  

WTF? Where is our left fielder
who bunny hops and plays that catch on a hop?

by zevkalman on Aug 6, 2007 7:41 PM CDT reply actions  

nice D that inning!
c'mon cubbies put some on the board!

by DartmouthCubsFan on Aug 6, 2007 7:41 PM CDT reply actions  

i guess a bunch of people hopped off the bandwagon
there's no one here tonight

lets go ronnie, right here!

by DartmouthCubsFan on Aug 6, 2007 7:46 PM CDT reply actions  

Hell yeah
Riot in the house! God I love that kid. He's fast becoming my favorite Cub.
Feel the Brees.

by SouthernBrees on Aug 6, 2007 7:46 PM CDT reply actions  

And then
Steals third! Woohooo
Feel the Brees.

by SouthernBrees on Aug 6, 2007 7:47 PM CDT up reply actions  

GHOST OF BARRETT!!!
It is AUGUST, and we're STILL IN IT! YES!

by TheEman on Aug 6, 2007 7:47 PM CDT reply actions  

Nice 2b from The Riot
Now at third, lets go Cedeno.
We will see some beautiful things come the fall.

by Me and Lou WS 07 on Aug 6, 2007 7:47 PM CDT reply actions  

gosh...
0-2 2 K's with runners on 3rd and 1 out

c'mon boys

by DartmouthCubsFan on Aug 6, 2007 7:48 PM CDT reply actions  

NOT AAA
Cedeno!
It is AUGUST, and we're STILL IN IT! YES!

by TheEman on Aug 6, 2007 7:48 PM CDT reply actions  

UGH
UGH. Screw you, Ronnie.
Feel the Brees.

by SouthernBrees on Aug 6, 2007 7:48 PM CDT reply actions  

Someone posted Fontenot's splits against LHP
which are still 80 points higher than Cedeno's whole avg.

by MiniAndretti on Aug 6, 2007 7:49 PM CDT up reply actions  

Come on
DLEE get her done!
Feel the Brees.

by SouthernBrees on Aug 6, 2007 7:49 PM CDT reply actions  

Nice AB Ronny
Not much has changed with you has it?

by Itchy on Aug 6, 2007 7:49 PM CDT reply actions  

Fonty would have brought Theriot home
But he's sitting in the dugout.  Those Cajun kids don't strike out very much.

by zevkalman on Aug 6, 2007 7:51 PM CDT up reply actions  

poop
I love this team!!!!!

by sue369 on Aug 6, 2007 7:49 PM CDT reply actions  

3-0 count?
REALLY? Lord.
Feel the Brees.

by SouthernBrees on Aug 6, 2007 7:49 PM CDT reply actions  

Cedeno feelin'
the Brees
It is AUGUST, and we're STILL IN IT! YES!

by TheEman on Aug 6, 2007 7:51 PM CDT up reply actions  

Well, the problem tonight isn't the top two
It's not getting in the runner from third with fewer than two outs.

The middle of the order hasn't done its job.

by Not Bruce Froemming on Aug 6, 2007 7:51 PM CDT reply actions  

Cardinals just dropped a 10-spot
on the Pads. May be able to gain some ground in the wildcard tonight.

by GoCubsGo! on Aug 6, 2007 7:51 PM CDT reply actions  

Please stop
counting the chickens...
It is AUGUST, and we're STILL IN IT! YES!

by TheEman on Aug 6, 2007 7:53 PM CDT up reply actions  

No chickens
counted. That is why I used the word MAY.
It was more of an observation than anything else.

by GoCubsGo! on Aug 6, 2007 7:55 PM CDT up reply actions  

im likin this whole not making contact twice
with a runner at third and less than 2 outs, no way we can afford to miss these opportunities without soriano in the lineup
Bring back the damn cowbell!

by CubsBall2202 on Aug 6, 2007 7:52 PM CDT reply actions  

Rodriguez the Invincible
has been in trouble every inning.

We are going to HAVE to break through!

No Excuse!

It is AUGUST, and we're STILL IN IT! YES!

by TheEman on Aug 6, 2007 7:52 PM CDT reply actions  

We are not putting our hits together
We need to change that. 49 pitches for Wandy thru 3 ip, we need to get to their bullpen.
We will see some beautiful things come the fall.

by Me and Lou WS 07 on Aug 6, 2007 7:53 PM CDT reply actions  

Going to the game on Labor day.
Hopefully we will be in first and be getting a fresh Soriano back for the stretch run.

by GoCubsGo! on Aug 6, 2007 7:56 PM CDT up reply actions  

Bad, Josh
It could be longer as well...

OH WELL! Minor Leaguers will have to come through.

It is AUGUST, and we're STILL IN IT! YES!

by TheEman on Aug 6, 2007 7:56 PM CDT up reply actions  

Yes
it could be worse.  It's a month and he'll be back for the final stretch.

It's not the best-case scenario.  It's also not the worst.

by Josh Timmers on Aug 6, 2007 7:59 PM CDT up reply actions  

We Hope
The problem is that the quad is one of the major foundations of all hitting and running.  Merely being back may not be enough.   The question is whether he will be hampered the rest of the year.

by frustratedfan on Aug 6, 2007 7:57 PM CDT up reply actions  

How has that injury
affected Mauer and Texieria, both of whom were out about the same amount of time with it?

by Not Bruce Froemming on Aug 6, 2007 7:59 PM CDT up reply actions  

Hill pitching well...
Now cubs need some hitting...although it's tough when there are 2 automatic outs at the 2nd and fifth spots in the order.

by Kirbyk70 on Aug 6, 2007 7:56 PM CDT reply actions  

so maybe he is 75% by
September 20th....

Gotta find ways to win without him. He wont be a 100% contributor again until '08

Let me get back to you, will ya, Charlie? I got a guy on the other line asking about some white walls.

by JB 23 on Aug 6, 2007 7:57 PM CDT reply actions  

was it just me or did it just
Look like A Ram hurt his knee again when he hit first base????
Let me get back to you, will ya, Charlie? I got a guy on the other line asking about some white walls.

by JB 23 on Aug 6, 2007 7:59 PM CDT reply actions  

Of all the Cubs "Stars"
Soriano is the one we'll miss least, imo - I mean in the context of you have to lose DLEE, Sori, Big Z, Lilly, or Jason Kendall (I had to add that), then Sori is the one that is the least valuable among the group.
It is AUGUST, and we're STILL IN IT! YES!

by TheEman on Aug 6, 2007 8:01 PM CDT reply actions  

no question
He is "replacable".. Z, Lee, Lilly, Marmol and A Ram are not at this point in the season.
Let me get back to you, will ya, Charlie? I got a guy on the other line asking about some white walls.

by JB 23 on Aug 6, 2007 8:02 PM CDT up reply actions  

I guess I
consider DeRosa a star the way he has played this season so far. We would defintely miss him.
I love this team!!!!!

by sue369 on Aug 6, 2007 8:02 PM CDT up reply actions  

And more valuable to this point
than any the Cubs will run out there in his place.

by MiniAndretti on Aug 6, 2007 8:03 PM CDT up reply actions  

but striking out swinging at bad pitches is?
Will Ohman is eating onion rings in a dinner. The door chimes as Lou Pinnella walks in. Slowly everything fades to black.

by jds2 on Aug 6, 2007 8:07 PM CDT up reply actions  

He has a better chance of hitting a bad pitch
Than Hill does of hitting one right down the middle.

As I typed this Hill K looking on 3 pitches.  He put a period on my point.

by MiniAndretti on Aug 6, 2007 8:08 PM CDT up reply actions  

Flame me all you want.
I'm right.  Walking in the 8 spot with any Cubs pitcher but Zambrano behind you and 2 out is not a high percentage play.  In fact, the Astros probably preferred it.

by MiniAndretti on Aug 6, 2007 8:13 PM CDT up reply actions  

They are starting to layoff that nasty
curve...its good, but its not landing in the zone..

The hits will follow

Let me get back to you, will ya, Charlie? I got a guy on the other line asking about some white walls.

by JB 23 on Aug 6, 2007 8:06 PM CDT reply actions  

Im calling a GS by Hill
We will see some beautiful things come the fall.

by Me and Lou WS 07 on Aug 6, 2007 8:06 PM CDT reply actions  

poop
I love this team!!!!!

by sue369 on Aug 6, 2007 8:07 PM CDT reply actions  

wow
The bat does move Rich...
"Oh, I get a little tired now and then, but knowing my lifestyle, that's only natural." -- Harry Caray

by Cribbs463 on Aug 6, 2007 8:08 PM CDT reply actions  

Come on Rich!
Come on!

phat

by phatass on Aug 6, 2007 8:08 PM CDT reply actions  

Hey Rich
Try taking the bat off your shoulder next, the  bases were juiced!
"We have the rabbit's foot now" -Z

by TheRamZamDLEE on Aug 6, 2007 8:08 PM CDT reply actions  

Rich Hills AB
with the bases loaded rich hill couldnt even attempt to swing??  that was the worst AB i think i've ever seen.  I mean, yeah hes a pitcher, but didnt he have to lear to hit in little league or high school?  Oh well, almost as frustrating as ronnie c-crap-o's AB with the riot at 3rd.

by OCcubsnation on Aug 6, 2007 8:11 PM CDT reply actions  

Trying to just look at the bright side
71 pitches thru 4 for Wandy and their bullpen sucks.  We will break through, they are just making us wait.
We will see some beautiful things come the fall.

by Me and Lou WS 07 on Aug 6, 2007 8:11 PM CDT reply actions  

This offense.is very bleak..
After last season's debacle I did not expect to see a line up that has Murton, Cedeno, Pagan as starters. This is sad

by cubsnlinux on Aug 6, 2007 8:12 PM CDT reply actions  

Seriously.
its like the AAA iowa all star team vs. the astros.  Luckly the astros are horrible.  Lets pull out D-lee and put in E-Pat.  

by OCcubsnation on Aug 6, 2007 8:14 PM CDT up reply actions  

The hits with RISP
are now alluding us...
It is AUGUST, and we're STILL IN IT! YES!

by TheEman on Aug 6, 2007 8:13 PM CDT reply actions  

Making us wait
kinda like that whole championship thing.
We will see some beautiful things come the fall.

by Me and Lou WS 07 on Aug 6, 2007 8:13 PM CDT reply actions  

Now its 1-0.
I hope Hill doesn't break apart this time.

by cubsnlinux on Aug 6, 2007 8:14 PM CDT reply actions  

We should have signed C Lee.
"That wouldn't be a homerun in a telephone booth!!"

by TNCubsFan on Aug 6, 2007 8:15 PM CDT reply actions  

Saddling up?
That how people talk in Texas? "I'm fixin to saddle up and mosey down to 7-11 and wrassle me a big gulp."

by thegangler on Aug 6, 2007 8:15 PM CDT reply actions  

wow.
hill's sharp tonite. he didn't even crack after that homer. that's a huge plus.

by rockpantson on Aug 6, 2007 8:16 PM CDT reply actions  

If they do not score
against the Invincible Rodriguez, then they deserve the L.
It is AUGUST, and we're STILL IN IT! YES!

by TheEman on Aug 6, 2007 8:17 PM CDT reply actions  

What is that long fly ball thing called?
When it leaves the field of play.  Like Carlos Lee did. The Astros announcers called that a "home run".  I don't remember those.  Do we do those things too?

by zevkalman on Aug 6, 2007 8:17 PM CDT reply actions  

4 innings, 6 LOB already
c'mon guys.
Tinker to Evers to Chance.

by Matt Allison on Aug 6, 2007 8:17 PM CDT reply actions  

THIS IS A LEADOFF HITTER
LOU!!

Get it?

It is AUGUST, and we're STILL IN IT! YES!

by TheEman on Aug 6, 2007 8:18 PM CDT reply actions  

Why bat Cedeno 2nd and Murton 5th...
they are bound to come up with runners on base, and we have all seen the outcomes...just messed up. Oh, and Aramis is swinging at everything because he knows he won't see very many strikes with Murton behind him.

by Kirbyk70 on Aug 6, 2007 8:18 PM CDT reply actions  

its incredible
that its Murtons fault for Aramis striking out too

wow...

by DartmouthCubsFan on Aug 6, 2007 8:20 PM CDT up reply actions  

I could have
sworn Matt had a single his last at bat.
I love this team!!!!!

by sue369 on Aug 6, 2007 8:20 PM CDT up reply actions  

Positive of Soriano's Injury
I hope Theriot tears up the lead-off spot and Lou decides to move Soriano to 5th when (if) he comes back.

by BringBackRyno on Aug 6, 2007 8:19 PM CDT reply actions  

Someone call it -
double, FO, or BB?
It is AUGUST, and we're STILL IN IT! YES!

by TheEman on Aug 6, 2007 8:20 PM CDT reply actions  

MY BAD!!
GO and RBI - COOL!
It is AUGUST, and we're STILL IN IT! YES!

by TheEman on Aug 6, 2007 8:20 PM CDT reply actions  

All right
I'll 'em any way we can get 'em.
"We have the rabbit's foot now" -Z

by TheRamZamDLEE on Aug 6, 2007 8:21 PM CDT reply actions  

Is it asking too much to have Cedeno
move him along...

PLEASE!!!!

That white W flag is the most beautiful sight to see. Go Cubs Go!!

by LAcarl519 on Aug 6, 2007 8:21 PM CDT reply actions  

Carlos Lee
90 freakin' RBI's

Sheesh!

It is AUGUST, and we're STILL IN IT! YES!

by TheEman on Aug 6, 2007 8:21 PM CDT reply actions  

According to Miller of ESPN
isn't he on the Cubs now? :-)
That white W flag is the most beautiful sight to see. Go Cubs Go!!

by LAcarl519 on Aug 6, 2007 8:30 PM CDT up reply actions  

I don't know about that...
but how about that huge hand for TOM GLAVINE?
It is AUGUST, and we're STILL IN IT! YES!

by TheEman on Aug 6, 2007 8:34 PM CDT up reply actions  

Let's just concentrate
on Cubs/'Stros...

Rich Hill

It is AUGUST, and we're STILL IN IT! YES!

by TheEman on Aug 6, 2007 8:24 PM CDT up reply actions  

we are in a pennant race...
it is august...

if we're not scoreboard watching now when are we

by DartmouthCubsFan on Aug 6, 2007 8:26 PM CDT up reply actions  

buehler
buehler??

no one's excited about the brew crew being down 4 already???

where did everyone go

by DartmouthCubsFan on Aug 6, 2007 8:25 PM CDT up reply actions  

Go Rox !!
Lets take care of our business first and let Rox take care of those brewers, which they will.

by cubsnlinux on Aug 6, 2007 8:27 PM CDT up reply actions  

I'm excited about that.
Absolutely, now is the time to start scoreboard watching. It's the reason I've posted the Brewers Gameday links.

It's nice to have meaningful games to play -- and to watch -- in August, isn't it?

"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al Yellon on Aug 6, 2007 8:28 PM CDT up reply actions  

BTW - THANKS
for the BREW Gameday links, Al!

It is great to be able to peak every now and then.

It is AUGUST, and we're STILL IN IT! YES!

by TheEman on Aug 6, 2007 8:31 PM CDT up reply actions  

I'm a little too tired
to get too excited about anything today.

phat

by phatass on Aug 6, 2007 8:27 PM CDT up reply actions  

This is truly small ball, but I'll take it.
That white W flag is the most beautiful sight to see. Go Cubs Go!!

by LAcarl519 on Aug 6, 2007 8:24 PM CDT reply actions  

About as small as it gets,
huh?

When was the last Cubs HR?

Anyone know what is now a trivia question?

It is AUGUST, and we're STILL IN IT! YES!

by TheEman on Aug 6, 2007 8:27 PM CDT up reply actions  

Nevermind -
I was at the game when DLEE hit it last week...
It is AUGUST, and we're STILL IN IT! YES!

by TheEman on Aug 6, 2007 8:27 PM CDT up reply actions  

Rich Hill looks much better
when he is able to locate that fast ball and when attacks the hitters rather than trying to get cute and nibble the K Zone.

by cubsnlinux on Aug 6, 2007 8:25 PM CDT reply actions  

Shot of Hendry on CSN...
BUT HE'S NOT ON THE PHONE!
It is AUGUST, and we're STILL IN IT! YES!

by TheEman on Aug 6, 2007 8:29 PM CDT reply actions  

just a thought..
i know i'm a newbie and all..and my opinion matters not...but it seems like there's a tremendous amount of negativity on this board. i understand it's frustrating to lose, to get knocked back out of first, to have shaky pitching, soriano's injury, etc....but a lot of you blast cedeno and murton every at-bat. murton's not a bad player. not at all. somebody even blasted him after he singled in his last ab. i think both of these guys have some potential. moreover, i guess i just don't like all the fighting going on here. it's fine if it's constructive arguing...i just hate to see fellow cubs fans at each others' throats.

sorry to be so long-winded. that said, hill is pitching well tonite and that makes me incredibly happy.

by rockpantson on Aug 6, 2007 8:29 PM CDT reply actions  

Good post
and welcome aboard. Don't let the barbarians get you down. :)

by Not Bruce Froemming on Aug 6, 2007 8:30 PM CDT up reply actions  

Get used to it.
All walks of life, personalities, education, etc.. post here which gives this board nice diversity. My philosophy if you don't like negative posts, don't read them or just ignore them. :)
"That wouldn't be a homerun in a telephone booth!!"

by TNCubsFan on Aug 6, 2007 8:32 PM CDT up reply actions  

This negativity
is mild compared to earlier in the season. Some on here do hate Matt but I am not one of them. I try to not be critical of any of the players. They all have off nights.
I love this team!!!!!

by sue369 on Aug 6, 2007 8:34 PM CDT up reply actions  

Exactly.
To the newbie above, welcome, and indeed you should be glad you started now instead of April.

It's a much nicer time to be a Cubs fan.

"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al Yellon on Aug 6, 2007 8:37 PM CDT up reply actions  

First of all, your oprinion matters as much as
everyone else's (except Joe's!).

There are people on BCB who run as hot and cold on players as the faucet in your kitchen.  You'll get use to it.  There is plenty of passion and love for the Cubs here.

Enjoy the ride and welcome aboard!!

That white W flag is the most beautiful sight to see. Go Cubs Go!!

by LAcarl519 on Aug 6, 2007 8:39 PM CDT up reply actions  

Of course
Fielder just hit a home-run.

phat

by phatass on Aug 6, 2007 8:30 PM CDT reply actions  

Remember where they're playing.
That game could wind up 13-12.
"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al Yellon on Aug 6, 2007 8:30 PM CDT up reply actions  

actually
brewers 2 runs or fewer in last 4 of 5 at Colorado.  I think hihg altitude+beer and cheese=trouble
Will Ohman is eating onion rings in a dinner. The door chimes as Lou Pinnella walks in. Slowly everything fades to black.

by jds2 on Aug 6, 2007 8:37 PM CDT up reply actions  

Yeah...
I never fly after eating cheese and drinking beer.  Just a bad idea.
"That wouldn't be a homerun in a telephone booth!!"

by TNCubsFan on Aug 6, 2007 8:38 PM CDT up reply actions  

4-1
prince goes deep

josh fogg on the mound... could be a wild one

by DartmouthCubsFan on Aug 6, 2007 8:30 PM CDT reply actions  

Cardinals...
... scored ten runs in the fifth inning tonight and are winning 10-4. The good news is, they are beating the Padres, who the Cubs are chasing in the wild card race.
"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al Yellon on Aug 6, 2007 8:32 PM CDT reply actions  

Wow
who'd they hit?

phat

by phatass on Aug 6, 2007 8:35 PM CDT up reply actions  

david wells
and MB wasnt even catching so he cant be blamed for this one

by DartmouthCubsFan on Aug 6, 2007 8:36 PM CDT up reply actions  

Exactly
in about 1/2 a season the barret effect is so great he doesn't even have to be in the game for the pitches to struggle
Will Ohman is eating onion rings in a dinner. The door chimes as Lou Pinnella walks in. Slowly everything fades to black.

by jds2 on Aug 6, 2007 8:38 PM CDT up reply actions  

HA HA
I haven't laughed so hard in two days!  LMAO...thanks!

by zevkalman on Aug 6, 2007 8:40 PM CDT up reply actions  

David Wells
I have to smile about that. Maybe no one hurt his feelings so they won't have to hit any cardinals tomorrow....

by LT on Aug 6, 2007 8:37 PM CDT up reply actions  

6 - 1 COL
"That wouldn't be a homerun in a telephone booth!!"

by TNCubsFan on Aug 6, 2007 8:39 PM CDT reply actions  

random note
ESPN makes me really appreciate Santo.
He may be a Homer but he's our homer
Will Ohman is eating onion rings in a dinner. The door chimes as Lou Pinnella walks in. Slowly everything fades to black.

by jds2 on Aug 6, 2007 8:40 PM CDT reply actions  

another smooth inning for Rich
c'mon boys lets get him some runs, been the same theme all year

by DartmouthCubsFan on Aug 6, 2007 8:41 PM CDT reply actions  

yea
he's done his job
Will Ohman is eating onion rings in a dinner. The door chimes as Lou Pinnella walks in. Slowly everything fades to black.

by jds2 on Aug 6, 2007 8:43 PM CDT up reply actions  

This just in from Iowa...
Soto currently 2 - 3 with 2 runs scored.
"That wouldn't be a homerun in a telephone booth!!"

by TNCubsFan on Aug 6, 2007 8:43 PM CDT reply actions  

Their must be something in the water in DSM
They have to be one of the better teams in the PCL
Will Ohman is eating onion rings in a dinner. The door chimes as Lou Pinnella walks in. Slowly everything fades to black.

by jds2 on Aug 6, 2007 8:44 PM CDT up reply actions  

jds2, about your sig line...
...I believe that should be "diner" not "dinner."
Otherwise, very nice.
Brew Crew: We have arrived -- now step aside.

by daver on Aug 6, 2007 8:50 PM CDT up reply actions  

thanks for the spell check
Will Ohman is eating onion rings in a diner. The door chimes as Lou Pinnella walks in. Slowly everything fades to black.

by jds2 on Aug 6, 2007 8:55 PM CDT up reply actions  

Whats the Colorado Score
Hahaha
"The game is always healthier when the Cubs are good, and in a week they have made themselves a whole lot better."

by BillHoldenFan on Aug 6, 2007 8:43 PM CDT reply actions  

I love that...
"You can't quiet The Riot" Would love to see that on a t-shirt.
I love this team!!!!!

by sue369 on Aug 6, 2007 8:47 PM CDT reply actions  

Will the Cubs ever score runs for Rich Hill??
please...

soon.

That white W flag is the most beautiful sight to see. Go Cubs Go!!

by LAcarl519 on Aug 6, 2007 8:47 PM CDT reply actions  

Wandy Rodriguez?
why can't we score
Will Ohman is eating onion rings in a dinner. The door chimes as Lou Pinnella walks in. Slowly everything fades to black.

by jds2 on Aug 6, 2007 8:50 PM CDT reply actions  

huh?
sounds like he has a future as a brewer
Will Ohman is eating onion rings in a diner. The door chimes as Lou Pinnella walks in. Slowly everything fades to black.

by jds2 on Aug 6, 2007 8:54 PM CDT up reply actions  

Hah!
He and Cordero would make quite the starter/closer pair.

by Not Bruce Froemming on Aug 6, 2007 8:56 PM CDT up reply actions  

See home splits that I posted
earlier...
It is AUGUST, and we're STILL IN IT! YES!

by TheEman on Aug 6, 2007 8:55 PM CDT up reply actions  

sorry
Will Ohman is eating onion rings in a diner. The door chimes as Lou Pinnella walks in. Slowly everything fades to black.

by jds2 on Aug 6, 2007 8:57 PM CDT up reply actions  

That park announcer
is really annoying.

He sounds like he's doing a monster truck ad.

by phatass on Aug 6, 2007 8:50 PM CDT reply actions  

it is TEXAS
they like 'em big down there.

by CubFaninNY on Aug 6, 2007 8:55 PM CDT up reply actions  

Hell of an outing for Hill
Wood in the 8th, anyone?
Tinker to Evers to Chance.

by Matt Allison on Aug 6, 2007 8:56 PM CDT reply actions  

Make sense
Wood yesturday Marmol today.
We have quite the bullpen now
Will Ohman is eating onion rings in a diner. The door chimes as Lou Pinnella walks in. Slowly everything fades to black.

by jds2 on Aug 6, 2007 8:59 PM CDT up reply actions  

cedano
seems to be pretty adequate at 2b today.
Will Ohman is eating onion rings in a diner. The door chimes as Lou Pinnella walks in. Slowly everything fades to black.

by jds2 on Aug 6, 2007 8:56 PM CDT reply actions  

PLEASE
let's get some more runs Cubs!!
I love this team!!!!!

by sue369 on Aug 6, 2007 8:57 PM CDT reply actions  

Ronny C
let's start it off
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by jds2 on Aug 6, 2007 8:58 PM CDT reply actions  

Anyone else
feel the breeze from that swing of Ronny's?
I love this team!!!!!

by sue369 on Aug 6, 2007 8:59 PM CDT reply actions  

100 ptiches and Rich Hill is
all but done.  A nice effort.  Let's try to get to Wandy and the Astros bullpen now and try to get Hill a "W".
That white W flag is the most beautiful sight to see. Go Cubs Go!!

by LAcarl519 on Aug 6, 2007 8:59 PM CDT reply actions  

Ronnie Cedeno
Experiment: Concluded

Results: Negative

Recommendation: Termination

Tinker to Evers to Chance.

by Matt Allison on Aug 6, 2007 9:00 PM CDT reply actions  

Eric Patterson meet Ronny Cedano
Ronny Cedano meet the bench...what you've already meet
Will Ohman is eating onion rings in a diner. The door chimes as Lou Pinnella walks in. Slowly everything fades to black.

by jds2 on Aug 6, 2007 9:02 PM CDT up reply actions  

Ha ha
You guys are too much!  Funny! :-)

by zevkalman on Aug 6, 2007 9:03 PM CDT up reply actions  

Lee hit a ball 15 feet foul
would have been a double at worst
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by jds2 on Aug 6, 2007 9:01 PM CDT reply actions  

Yikes!
Come on Cubs.
I love this team!!!!!

by sue369 on Aug 6, 2007 9:02 PM CDT reply actions  

Wandy = Cy Young.
"That wouldn't be a homerun in a telephone booth!!"

by TNCubsFan on Aug 6, 2007 9:02 PM CDT reply actions  

Wandy is a joke
Can I say, Jamie Moyer, Bronson Arroyo, and El Duque

by louslovechild on Aug 6, 2007 9:02 PM CDT reply actions  

nice that wandy is going to pitch to the brewers
still can't beleive only 1 run vs a guy named wandy
Will Ohman is eating onion rings in a diner. The door chimes as Lou Pinnella walks in. Slowly everything fades to black.

by jds2 on Aug 6, 2007 9:03 PM CDT reply actions  

Should have been 3
Runners at 1 and 3 in the first. Ramirez K's. Runner on 3rd 1 out in the 2nd, Ronny K's. We had lots of opportunities.

by louslovechild on Aug 6, 2007 9:06 PM CDT up reply actions  

They beat up on Rodriguez at home
and haven't touched him on the road.

Fits right into his history.

by Not Bruce Froemming on Aug 6, 2007 9:04 PM CDT reply actions  

Way to waste a great start by Hill!
No one can hit a curveball I guess, except Theriot.  C'mon you jugheads!

by Itchy on Aug 6, 2007 9:07 PM CDT up reply actions  

Great game, though
A real pitchers' duel.

Would be a nice one to win, particularly with the Crew down early.

by Not Bruce Froemming on Aug 6, 2007 9:05 PM CDT reply actions  

Houston Announcer Said It
Would have served Pinella Nice to put a lefty in there to mix it up. How about Fontenot Batting Second instead of the worst 2 hitter west of the Pacos

by louslovechild on Aug 6, 2007 9:05 PM CDT reply actions  

This team
Cannot hit left handed pitching to save their souls.
Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it. -- George Santayana (1863-1952)

by cubfred on Aug 6, 2007 9:05 PM CDT reply actions  

Reminds me of Little League
nobody could hit left handers then either. At least we were only 12....

by LT on Aug 6, 2007 9:11 PM CDT up reply actions  

not my little league
approximately 5 walks per inning
Will Ohman is eating onion rings in a diner. The door chimes as Lou Pinnella walks in. Slowly everything fades to black.

by jds2 on Aug 6, 2007 9:12 PM CDT up reply actions  

Observation
of the Houston TV announcers:  that Sweet Lou might have made Wandy's job easier by not sticking a left-hand bat in the lineup.  They argue that it may have allowed Wandy to get "on track" since he only had to face right-handers.  Not entirely plausible, but interesting.

by zevkalman on Aug 6, 2007 9:06 PM CDT reply actions  

sorry, I didn't see your post.
That white W flag is the most beautiful sight to see. Go Cubs Go!!

by LAcarl519 on Aug 6, 2007 9:08 PM CDT up reply actions  

How is it not plausible?
There are pitches that Lefties won't throw to Lefties.

by MiniAndretti on Aug 6, 2007 9:08 PM CDT up reply actions  

Even the Astros announcers thought
"Wandy" got very comfortable facing eight straight RH batters.  I hope Lou is done with this experiment.  It sure seems like a bust.  We seem to hit better against LH pitchers when there is a mix of RH and LH hitters in there.

Let's just find a way to get this "W"...

That white W flag is the most beautiful sight to see. Go Cubs Go!!

by LAcarl519 on Aug 6, 2007 9:08 PM CDT reply actions  

Palmero
swung at that pitch big time. Where the hell was he goin?
"We have the rabbit's foot now" -Z

by TheRamZamDLEE on Aug 6, 2007 9:09 PM CDT reply actions  

marmol in 9th?
if we don't score
Will Ohman is eating onion rings in a diner. The door chimes as Lou Pinnella walks in. Slowly everything fades to black.

by jds2 on Aug 6, 2007 9:13 PM CDT reply actions  

Seriously
we need some runs here guys. Just do it!!!
I love this team!!!!!

by sue369 on Aug 6, 2007 9:13 PM CDT reply actions  

15 pitches for Marmol
back in the 9th?
Tinker to Evers to Chance.

by Matt Allison on Aug 6, 2007 9:13 PM CDT reply actions  

I vote yes
n/t
Let me get back to you, will ya, Charlie? I got a guy on the other line asking about some white walls.

by JB 23 on Aug 6, 2007 9:15 PM CDT up reply actions  

Time to get the bullpen.
Hopefully they bring in a righty.  I gurantee runs if they bring in a north paw.

by Aram mvp on Aug 6, 2007 9:14 PM CDT reply actions  

I like the northpaw thing...
but that guarantee is looking pretty rough right now.

by SouthernCub on Aug 6, 2007 9:19 PM CDT up reply actions  

put the ball in play
Will Ohman is eating onion rings in a diner. The door chimes as Lou Pinnella walks in. Slowly everything fades to black.

by jds2 on Aug 6, 2007 9:18 PM CDT reply actions  

sheesh
I love this team!!!!!

by sue369 on Aug 6, 2007 9:18 PM CDT reply actions  

Qualls stuff is nasty tonight
I know, I am captain obvious...
Let me get back to you, will ya, Charlie? I got a guy on the other line asking about some white walls.

by JB 23 on Aug 6, 2007 9:19 PM CDT reply actions  

dang.
qualls just made fools of us.

by rockpantson on Aug 6, 2007 9:20 PM CDT reply actions  

That was
not pleasant.
I love this team!!!!!

by sue369 on Aug 6, 2007 9:20 PM CDT reply actions  

Wandy = Qualls = Cy Young.
Contact? Anyone?
"That wouldn't be a homerun in a telephone booth!!"

by TNCubsFan on Aug 6, 2007 9:20 PM CDT reply actions  

well
I will... but I don't know that they are any good, or we just are horrible hitters.

But it did look nasty.

by blueapple on Aug 6, 2007 9:24 PM CDT up reply actions  

is EPatt at the game?
maybe he could try to bunt for a single...more productive than the last 6 K's
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by jds2 on Aug 6, 2007 9:21 PM CDT reply actions  

He's in.
I love this team!!!!!

by sue369 on Aug 6, 2007 9:22 PM CDT up reply actions  

check
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by jds2 on Aug 6, 2007 9:23 PM CDT up reply actions  

Playing LF?
I'm not the biggest Murton fan but that was bad baseball by Lou.  He wasted Fontenot.  

by MiniAndretti on Aug 6, 2007 9:23 PM CDT up reply actions  

Tip your cap
but do the Houston announcers get to be that cocky when their team is 15 games under 500

by louslovechild on Aug 6, 2007 9:22 PM CDT reply actions  

I rush home to see THIS??
Man...walk in, turn on the game, and we have yet ANOTHER pitchers dual?

I mean....really....(sigh)

"Welcome to Lou's BLUE Crew....Cubbies in '07"

by Bluelou on Aug 6, 2007 9:22 PM CDT reply actions  

Well...did ya POOP 'em yet tonight Sue?
:-)
"Welcome to Lou's BLUE Crew....Cubbies in '07"

by Bluelou on Aug 6, 2007 9:24 PM CDT up reply actions  

A couple
of times. Didn't help tho.
I love this team!!!!!

by sue369 on Aug 6, 2007 9:25 PM CDT up reply actions  

Sue's POOP
has lost its odor.

Ineffective anymore, imo.

It is AUGUST, and we're STILL IN IT! YES!

by TheEman on Aug 6, 2007 9:29 PM CDT up reply actions  

Why Fontenot there?
I'm not sure I see the logic.  We have 3 LH batters on the bench who are capable of playing LF.  Instead, Lou chooses a 2B, meaning he has to use 2 guys for one batter.  Strange move.

by SouthernCub on Aug 6, 2007 9:22 PM CDT reply actions  

Been a whale of a game so far
Nice, tight, tense pitchers' duel. Be nice to win it. We'll see.

by Not Bruce Froemming on Aug 6, 2007 9:24 PM CDT up reply actions  

Been a whale of a game so far
Sheeeyte!
My fingernails are already down to stubs...
"Welcome to Lou's BLUE Crew....Cubbies in '07"

by Bluelou on Aug 6, 2007 9:26 PM CDT up reply actions  

OMG
That's Corey Patterson!

by CubFaninNY on Aug 6, 2007 9:23 PM CDT reply actions  

Im sure this has been mentioned
i just got back and saw soriano was out till labor day at the earliest, here's to hoping he comes back ready to play and to the speediest recovery possible

by INWes44 on Aug 6, 2007 9:24 PM CDT reply actions  

nike K bobby
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by jds2 on Aug 6, 2007 9:26 PM CDT reply actions  

Fer sure.
Tinker to Evers to Chance.

by Matt Allison on Aug 6, 2007 9:28 PM CDT up reply actions  

Nope....FO..
"Welcome to Lou's BLUE Crew....Cubbies in '07"

by Bluelou on Aug 6, 2007 9:28 PM CDT up reply actions  

don't mind him pitching carefully to lee here
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by jds2 on Aug 6, 2007 9:28 PM CDT reply actions  

thank you Carlos!
Let me get back to you, will ya, Charlie? I got a guy on the other line asking about some white walls.

by JB 23 on Aug 6, 2007 9:28 PM CDT reply actions  

Whew!
Now let's do something.
I love this team!!!!!

by sue369 on Aug 6, 2007 9:28 PM CDT reply actions  

thank you Carlos!
Let me get back to you, will ya, Charlie? I got a guy on the other line asking about some white walls.

by JB 23 on Aug 6, 2007 9:28 PM CDT reply actions  

Patterson up
Let's see how this experiment goes...

by blueapple on Aug 6, 2007 9:29 PM CDT reply actions  

Lets hope it goes
better than Corey's first game...
0 for 3, 2K

by blueapple on Aug 6, 2007 9:31 PM CDT up reply actions  

Lets
try and put the ball in play this inning, whose with me?

by CubsFan1987 on Aug 6, 2007 9:30 PM CDT reply actions  

Hey....it's kinda nice in here tonight...
got a nice, friendly vibe....waddup wit dat??
:-)
"Welcome to Lou's BLUE Crew....Cubbies in '07"

by Bluelou on Aug 6, 2007 9:30 PM CDT reply actions  

Brewers losing cubs are not
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by jds2 on Aug 6, 2007 9:31 PM CDT up reply actions  

It is
nice in here tonight.
I love this team!!!!!

by sue369 on Aug 6, 2007 9:33 PM CDT up reply actions  

did not think lee would getting out on a 3-0 count
Will Ohman is eating onion rings in a diner. The door chimes as Lou Pinnella walks in. Slowly everything fades to black.

by jds2 on Aug 6, 2007 9:30 PM CDT reply actions  

The guys on baseball tonight just discussed what
we already know:  Carlos Marmol is the balls.

by MiniAndretti on Aug 6, 2007 9:30 PM CDT reply actions  

Time to Take First Place back
as a nice team get well quick gift to The Fonz!
SOMEDAY…

"If they won a world championship, sure, we'd be proud. But we couldn't love them any more than we already do &#8211"-anon.CubFan

by hellfreezesoverwaittillnextyear on Aug 6, 2007 9:31 PM CDT reply actions  

WTG JK....keep it up...
"Welcome to Lou's BLUE Crew....Cubbies in '07"

by Bluelou on Aug 6, 2007 9:31 PM CDT reply actions  

nice start JASON
i still want geovanny....

but i'm rooting for ya to prove me wrong!

by DartmouthCubsFan on Aug 6, 2007 9:32 PM CDT reply actions  

Lou has 3 more rookies on this team
than he probably wants already.

by MiniAndretti on Aug 6, 2007 9:32 PM CDT up reply actions  

i know
people get upset though when i talk about his similarities to dusty

by DartmouthCubsFan on Aug 6, 2007 9:34 PM CDT up reply actions  

Kendall: tomorrow's #2 hitter
That white W flag is the most beautiful sight to see. Go Cubs Go!!

by LAcarl519 on Aug 6, 2007 9:32 PM CDT reply actions  

E patt is tiny!
Let me get back to you, will ya, Charlie? I got a guy on the other line asking about some white walls.

by JB 23 on Aug 6, 2007 9:32 PM CDT reply actions  

Who wouldve thought...
Kendall could actually hit still.  COME ON EP!!!

by Aram mvp on Aug 6, 2007 9:32 PM CDT reply actions  

Here we go
Let's go E Pat... clap,clap,clap,clap,clap
"We have the rabbit's foot now" -Z

by TheRamZamDLEE on Aug 6, 2007 9:32 PM CDT reply actions  

3-1
swing away or bunt?
i say swing
Will Ohman is eating onion rings in a diner. The door chimes as Lou Pinnella walks in. Slowly everything fades to black.

by jds2 on Aug 6, 2007 9:34 PM CDT reply actions  

productive out
well done EPatt
Will Ohman is eating onion rings in a diner. The door chimes as Lou Pinnella walks in. Slowly everything fades to black.

by jds2 on Aug 6, 2007 9:35 PM CDT reply actions  

Thank goodness for the bobble....nice bunt..
"Welcome to Lou's BLUE Crew....Cubbies in '07"

by Bluelou on Aug 6, 2007 9:35 PM CDT reply actions  

EPatt
still no official MLB AB...that was a Sac right?
Will Ohman is eating onion rings in a diner. The door chimes as Lou Pinnella walks in. Slowly everything fades to black.

by jds2 on Aug 6, 2007 9:36 PM CDT reply actions  

Time to star a "RIOT"...yes?
"Welcome to Lou's BLUE Crew....Cubbies in '07"

by Bluelou on Aug 6, 2007 9:36 PM CDT reply actions  

i think thats about as far as you can hit a ball
and get out
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by jds2 on Aug 6, 2007 9:36 PM CDT reply actions  

wow.
saw that one coming.

by rockpantson on Aug 6, 2007 9:37 PM CDT reply actions  

Come on Cliff.
Bring The Riot home.
I love this team!!!!!

by sue369 on Aug 6, 2007 9:37 PM CDT reply actions  

You mean Kendall...
the Riot is sitting on the bench.

by SouthernCub on Aug 6, 2007 9:38 PM CDT up reply actions  

Yep
that's what I meant.
I love this team!!!!!

by sue369 on Aug 6, 2007 9:38 PM CDT up reply actions  

really bad swing....jonesesque...
Let me get back to you, will ya, Charlie? I got a guy on the other line asking about some white walls.

by JB 23 on Aug 6, 2007 9:37 PM CDT reply actions  

Cliffy wasn't even CLOSE on that swing...
"Welcome to Lou's BLUE Crew....Cubbies in '07"

by Bluelou on Aug 6, 2007 9:38 PM CDT reply actions  

quite awhile.....
and now with Sori out, there is no more hiding...
Let me get back to you, will ya, Charlie? I got a guy on the other line asking about some white walls.

by JB 23 on Aug 6, 2007 9:39 PM CDT up reply actions  

come on floyd
I think tacking a loss on lidge might weaken his psyche for the rest of the series
Will Ohman is eating onion rings in a diner. The door chimes as Lou Pinnella walks in. Slowly everything fades to black.

by jds2 on Aug 6, 2007 9:38 PM CDT reply actions  

Well there ya go.....just a base hit....
would have been nice....(argh)
"Welcome to Lou's BLUE Crew....Cubbies in '07"

by Bluelou on Aug 6, 2007 9:39 PM CDT reply actions  

crap.
this is getting bad.

by rockpantson on Aug 6, 2007 9:39 PM CDT reply actions  

How did he not see that pitch coming
Its unhittable and Floyd kept going after it

by louslovechild on Aug 6, 2007 9:39 PM CDT reply actions  

embarassing
cliff should be ashamed for that at-bat, wasn't even close at any of those pitches, none of which looked liked they would be called strikes

by CubsFan1987 on Aug 6, 2007 9:40 PM CDT reply actions  

ugh....
with all these moves we've managed to hurt our defense late in the game as well

floyd into right, epat in LF, DeRosa back to 2B

by DartmouthCubsFan on Aug 6, 2007 9:40 PM CDT reply actions  

if that was a beachball
Cliff would have missed it with those swings.   Ouch.  

Let's try to get to the 11th.

That white W flag is the most beautiful sight to see. Go Cubs Go!!

by LAcarl519 on Aug 6, 2007 9:40 PM CDT reply actions  

But
Pitcher vs a hired bat left feilder
Will Ohman is eating onion rings in a diner. The door chimes as Lou Pinnella walks in. Slowly everything fades to black.

by jds2 on Aug 6, 2007 9:43 PM CDT up reply actions  

Still to K on three pitches and not swing at one?
Nevermind that gameday showed them as right down the middle.

by MiniAndretti on Aug 6, 2007 9:44 PM CDT up reply actions  

truly dreadful
It's been a long time since Lidge has made anyone look that bad.

by DaveinHouston on Aug 7, 2007 12:10 AM CDT up reply actions  

Howry in the 9th
would be nice to get 2 innings out of a releiver in a potential extra innings game
Will Ohman is eating onion rings in a diner. The door chimes as Lou Pinnella walks in. Slowly everything fades to black.

by jds2 on Aug 6, 2007 9:40 PM CDT reply actions  

I wish
we could trade Jones, Floyd, Pagan, Murton for two good outfielders... or like compress them and maybe add their stats together to get the best mediocore player the game has ever seen.

by blueapple on Aug 6, 2007 9:40 PM CDT reply actions  

He's not horrible
but he certainly looked horrible in that at-bat.

by Not Bruce Froemming on Aug 6, 2007 9:42 PM CDT up reply actions  

mmm, yeah
pretty much
I love this team!!!!!

by sue369 on Aug 6, 2007 9:42 PM CDT up reply actions  

Deflated yes,
angry naw. Just expected more from Cliff than what we have been getting.
I love this team!!!!!

by sue369 on Aug 7, 2007 7:37 AM CDT up reply actions  

Wow
I think I could have gotten closer to one of those pitches than Cliff did. That last pitch was one of those where everyone in the park knew a slider was coming, and he still missed it by a foot.

by Aaron @ Bleed Cubbie Blue on Aug 6, 2007 9:41 PM CDT reply actions  

Hey look ! Another slider at the shoetops !
And another Cub flailing away at it like he's swatting flies !

And now we get Wuertz. Great.

by scotteboy on Aug 6, 2007 9:41 PM CDT reply actions  

OK WHY
bring in a new pitcher and not double switch to have jones play RF????

by DartmouthCubsFan on Aug 6, 2007 9:42 PM CDT reply actions  

So Howry's arm
doesn't fall off before Soriano returns.
Tinker to Evers to Chance.

by Matt Allison on Aug 6, 2007 9:43 PM CDT up reply actions  

i dont mind the pitching change
but why not use it double switch, pitchers spot is due up 3rd next inning and if we get there he's going to use jones to PH anyways AND jones is a better defender than floyd by a mile

by DartmouthCubsFan on Aug 6, 2007 9:44 PM CDT up reply actions  

0-2 count ---> leadoff walk
way to nibble
Will Ohman is eating onion rings in a diner. The door chimes as Lou Pinnella walks in. Slowly everything fades to black.

by jds2 on Aug 6, 2007 9:44 PM CDT up reply actions  

ballgame
Let me get back to you, will ya, Charlie? I got a guy on the other line asking about some white walls.

by JB 23 on Aug 6, 2007 9:43 PM CDT reply actions  

OMG
from 0-2 to a walk, i have never understood what goes through a pitcher's head when this crap happens

by CubsFan1987 on Aug 6, 2007 9:44 PM CDT reply actions  

Wuertz
Are you kidding. Lead off walk. He is going to kill this.

by louslovechild on Aug 6, 2007 9:44 PM CDT reply actions  

it's like deja vu all over again
Will Ohman is eating onion rings in a diner. The door chimes as Lou Pinnella walks in. Slowly everything fades to black.

by jds2 on Aug 6, 2007 9:45 PM CDT reply actions  

K + W =
Kerry Wood finishes with a strikeout for a Win!

Hope the Fonzieless Cubbies can get there tonight!

SOMEDAY…

"If they won a world championship, sure, we'd be proud. But we couldn't love them any more than we already do &#8211"-anon.CubFan

by hellfreezesoverwaittillnextyear on Aug 6, 2007 9:45 PM CDT reply actions  

The April Cubs return...
It is AUGUST, and we're STILL IN IT! YES!

by TheEman on Aug 6, 2007 9:47 PM CDT up reply actions  

the 'stros bench is pretty thin, huh?
i believe they carry three catchers.

by rockpantson on Aug 6, 2007 9:47 PM CDT reply actions  

nice play EPatt
Will Ohman is eating onion rings in a diner. The door chimes as Lou Pinnella walks in. Slowly everything fades to black.

by jds2 on Aug 6, 2007 9:47 PM CDT reply actions  

kendall
i'm sorry but i still dont see how he's a great defensive catcher..... i really dont see how he's any better than barrett.... i'm sorry

by DartmouthCubsFan on Aug 6, 2007 9:48 PM CDT reply actions  

You're not sorry.
I'm sorry that you are offering slams couched as apologies.

by MiniAndretti on Aug 6, 2007 9:49 PM CDT up reply actions  

This is a game
when the "leaders" have to take over.

A-Ram, DLEE, DeRosa...

A Big Freakin' ZERO!!!

It is AUGUST, and we're STILL IN IT! YES!

by TheEman on Aug 6, 2007 9:48 PM CDT reply actions  

righty
Damn it.  Throw him crap, and face the righty!  

by californiachicagoan on Aug 6, 2007 9:50 PM CDT reply actions  

Oh, well
Offense needed to do a better job.

Hopefully Rockies hold on and Cubs lose no ground.

by Not Bruce Froemming on Aug 6, 2007 9:50 PM CDT reply actions  

I hope too
but feels sick we have to depend on the Rox beating the brewers when we cannot beat the Astros. Loosing 2 in a row is now getting common.

by cubsnlinux on Aug 6, 2007 9:53 PM CDT up reply actions  

Deplorable
two days in a row they let the Brewers off the hook...

All you guys who start drooling when they see THE BREWERS ARE LOSING - please. Can you just wait until the Cubs take care of business?

It is AUGUST, and we're STILL IN IT! YES!

by TheEman on Aug 6, 2007 9:56 PM CDT up reply actions  

damn.
that's a huge letdown. we'll git 'em tomorrow.

by rockpantson on Aug 6, 2007 9:50 PM CDT reply actions  

POOP
Poop...poop...poop!!!!
"Hey-Hey! Home Run! Attaboy Ronnie!" ~ Jack Brickhouse

by ronsanto10 on Aug 6, 2007 9:50 PM CDT reply actions  

fucking
and the implode happens

by blueapple on Aug 6, 2007 9:51 PM CDT reply actions  

It's time to shake up the %$(#ing lineup.
Jesus Christ.  How in the hell do you score 1 freaking run.
"That wouldn't be a homerun in a telephone booth!!"

by TNCubsFan on Aug 6, 2007 9:51 PM CDT reply actions  

Shake up with what?
As much as people like to hate Soriano around here, the Cubs lost a lot of offensive potential for a month.  Maybe he was hitting in the "wrong" spot in the order but you only lead off once per game.  The combination of Murton/Floyd/Jones/Pagan is weak in just about every way imaginable.

by MiniAndretti on Aug 6, 2007 9:54 PM CDT up reply actions  

man...
we let an opportunity get away tonight

by DartmouthCubsFan on Aug 6, 2007 9:51 PM CDT reply actions  

we let an opportunity get away tonight
Naw, dude....
THEY let one get away....WE just watched helplessly.    :-)
"Welcome to Lou's BLUE Crew....Cubbies in '07"

by Bluelou on Aug 6, 2007 9:53 PM CDT up reply actions  

Nice effort
another game that the offense didn't show up.  Let the excuse makers begin.....

by Itchy on Aug 6, 2007 9:51 PM CDT reply actions  

No excuses
Offense needed to do a better job.

If you want to jump off the ledge, feel free.

by Not Bruce Froemming on Aug 6, 2007 9:52 PM CDT up reply actions  

Well there is always next year..isn't that right
pal? This offense sucks and it feels stupid when these bozos call out the fans for booing. 1 run against the astros?

by cubsnlinux on Aug 6, 2007 9:55 PM CDT up reply actions  

I love it when people tell me how I am
or am not supposed to root for a team.

by MiniAndretti on Aug 6, 2007 9:57 PM CDT up reply actions  

What we needed was
for hitters like Floyd not to try and hit a HR on every pitch!  Good teams win games like this.  

August = April?  Let's hope not!

by Itchy on Aug 6, 2007 10:00 PM CDT up reply actions  

that idiotic lead off walk spelt doom
but I would put this loss on the offense..

by cubsnlinux on Aug 6, 2007 9:51 PM CDT reply actions  

jb called it but everyone else thought it
you cant let up a lead-off walk no matter the inning and not expect a run scored, even more so with an 0-2 count no business walking a batter there

by INWes44 on Aug 6, 2007 9:51 PM CDT reply actions  

RIch Hill
At least Hill did well.
"Hey-Hey! Home Run! Attaboy Ronnie!" ~ Jack Brickhouse

by ronsanto10 on Aug 6, 2007 9:52 PM CDT reply actions  

You have to tip your hat to Wandy.
No, wait. You don't. He sucks. You have to hit the GD ball, Lee and A-Ram.

by ClosingTime on Aug 6, 2007 9:52 PM CDT reply actions  

Wandy has a 1.76 ERA at home
What the Cubs needed was a sac fly in the first or the third.

Well, they've won their share like that recently. Now, they lose one.

Like I said, Rockies win tonight and it'll be a lot more palatable.

by Not Bruce Froemming on Aug 6, 2007 9:53 PM CDT up reply actions  

It won't be palatable
The fact that our offense is real bad still remains. Right now I can't be happy to see the brewers loose. I want to see the cubs win and want to see us win emphatically. This monkey business is horrible.

by cubsnlinux on Aug 6, 2007 9:57 PM CDT up reply actions  

BFD
The team lost 4 of 7 against the best in the NL, then proceed to lose against the Astros with 5 hits and 1 run - and you want to just tell us about the Brewers maybe losing.

Always nice to WIN to capture sole possesion of 1st...

It is AUGUST, and we're STILL IN IT! YES!

by TheEman on Aug 6, 2007 9:59 PM CDT up reply actions  

Well, tough
You can't, and won't win them all. And you'll have your fair share of games you should have won but didn't and games you shouldn't have won but did.

If the Cubs are going through a bit of a rough patch right now, that's understandable. Considering they've made up 7.5 games in the standings in the last month, that's to be expected.

Patience, grasshopper.

by Not Bruce Froemming on Aug 6, 2007 10:07 PM CDT up reply actions  

and then depression set in..
Great pitched game by both teams. Not sure what happened to the Astros pitching staff that gave up 54 runs last week, but that just seems to happen to the Cubs.
Let me get back to you, will ya, Charlie? I got a guy on the other line asking about some white walls.

by JB 23 on Aug 6, 2007 9:52 PM CDT reply actions  

and
four of their last five. One run off a guy with an era of 4.71. Wasted a really nice effort by Hill tonight. We are going to start falling like a rock in the standings if they don't start to score some runs.

by qccub on Aug 6, 2007 10:00 PM CDT up reply actions  

One Run
One run.  The stros have given up the third most HR's in the league.  

by FSArkCubsFan on Aug 6, 2007 9:53 PM CDT reply actions  

If the Cubs
score virtually nothing the next two days, you might have a point.

by Not Bruce Froemming on Aug 6, 2007 9:54 PM CDT up reply actions  

We haven't scored jack for runs
over the last week, save for a couple little outbursts.  No power whatsoever.  What can Lou do?

by Itchy on Aug 6, 2007 10:06 PM CDT up reply actions  

How long have you watched baseball?
One week without scoring much. Baseball season is 26 weeks long.

That's the breaks.

by Not Bruce Froemming on Aug 6, 2007 10:08 PM CDT up reply actions  

Cedeno played and Wuertz pitched the 10th
Cedeno cannot play at all. Wuertz in a tie ball game is useless. Plus, with the pitcher spot up next, why not walk him. Make Garner take out the pitcher, and face the pinch hitter. Gets Garner to use his last hitter and gets rid of Lidge.

Bad call on Lous part, but we should have had at least 4 runs.

Wasted outing by Hill.

by louslovechild on Aug 6, 2007 9:54 PM CDT reply actions  

it wasn't the pitcher spot up next.
there was a double switch. even if munson hadn't singled in the run, mike lamb would've batted next. just sayin.

by rockpantson on Aug 7, 2007 4:13 AM CDT up reply actions  

wow, we got completely shut down tonight.
i wasn't really expecting that. the astros staff just looked nasty. did we have any walks?

i've got a sickening feeling that we're going to get swept. woody williams throws tomorrow, and though he's a bum, he's also a competitive junkballer. then oswalt.

"If you play more than two chords, you're showing off."--Woody Guthrie

by buckmulligan on Aug 6, 2007 9:54 PM CDT reply actions  

Shit like tonight infuriates me
For the first time in several starts Rich Hill gives you 7 solid innings.

What was the approach at the plate tonight ? Swing hard in case you happen to put the bat on the ball ?

Slider at the shoetops, slider at the shoetops, slider at the shoetops, slider at the shoetops. Notice a pattern yet ? Apparently neither the Cubs nor Gerald Perry did.

Leadoff walk. Sac to 2nd. WP to 3rd. Single on ANOTHER hanging slider. Ballgame.

I hate stupid baseball. Was tonight some kind of previously scheduled retrospective on the 2004-2006 Chicago Cubs ?

by scotteboy on Aug 6, 2007 9:55 PM CDT reply actions  

posts like this really piss me off.
"Notice a pattern yet ? Apparently neither the Cubs nor Gerald Perry did."

ah, but you did, buddy. should've had you in there. coulda slapped those sliders out of the juicebox.

by rockpantson on Aug 7, 2007 4:16 AM CDT up reply actions  

I didn't see the game until the last inning
but Wandy must have gone nuts. Rich Hill looks like he had a nice game and got no run support from it. That sure is disappoining, and yes the Brew Crew looks like they will lose, but we aren't gaining any ground. They have been a great team and we need to capitalize when they lose. So far this is two games in a row we could have done so. We could be 2 games up in the division instead of still 1 back. That's a shame, especially when it's the damn Astros. Damn.

by bloomerang on Aug 6, 2007 9:56 PM CDT reply actions  

4th series in a row losing the first game...
During our July run we were consistently winning the first game every series.  Now, we are losing the first games of series and we are not playing as well.  

by Rogue 52 on Aug 6, 2007 9:56 PM CDT reply actions  

Leftys kill us
at least we won't see that lineup again for a while. And Josh Fogg has pitched great through 7 against the Brews.
Tinker to Evers to Chance.

by Matt Allison on Aug 6, 2007 9:56 PM CDT reply actions  

I've had it
The negativity and abject lack of realistic behavior around here is too much to take.

I'll be lurking, perhaps, but not posting much anymore.

I certainly hope some of you aren't like this in your regular lives, because if you are, you must be an absolute "joy" to be around.

by Not Bruce Froemming on Aug 6, 2007 9:56 PM CDT reply actions  

And there it is
The perspective post.

by MiniAndretti on Aug 6, 2007 9:58 PM CDT up reply actions  

Considering it appears you have none
I guess it was necessary.

Tough game to lose, but I'm not going to slit my wrists over it. There's another game tomorrow, you know.

by Not Bruce Froemming on Aug 6, 2007 9:59 PM CDT up reply actions  

You know nothing of me nor how I am feeling.
I just love that you are preaching so much.  Send me an address so I can build a pulpit and UPS it to you.

I agree that people freak out too much over one loss.  But the people who try to give them "perspective" or tell them how they are supposed to react or support the team are nearly as bad.

by MiniAndretti on Aug 6, 2007 10:01 PM CDT up reply actions  

Well, when that's basically all you see
in the majority of posts, what does that tell you?

Nobody's trying to "tell" anybody how to behave. But it's ridiculous to get this angst-ridden about a team that's only one game out of first place in its division, with 50-something games left to be played.

Can't we just enjoy the season? Instead of making things more fun, this constant negativity just makes it a drag.

by Not Bruce Froemming on Aug 6, 2007 10:03 PM CDT up reply actions  

i thought you were taking a break from posting.
"If you play more than two chords, you're showing off."--Woody Guthrie

by buckmulligan on Aug 6, 2007 10:05 PM CDT up reply actions  

But you are just attracting attention to it.
Let'em vent.  Though I wouldn't mind an "Ignore Poster" feature.

by MiniAndretti on Aug 6, 2007 10:05 PM CDT up reply actions  

agreed.
"If you play more than two chords, you're showing off."--Woody Guthrie

by buckmulligan on Aug 6, 2007 10:06 PM CDT up reply actions  

"Can't you just enjoy the season"
In all fairness some people including myself cannot "enjoy" after a humiliating loss like tonight's. Let me tell you something, more than the loss we are angry at the way we lost. The way Floyd was flailing at those sliders, the way we wasted tons of opportunities again to score some runs etc etc. Now we are not the Pirates or the Nationals, for heavens sake we are the Chicago Cubs, a big market ball club. We haven't won a World Series in 100 years and the fans are hungry and when you are hungry and deprived its hard to see dumb mistakes and "enjoy". When you are in a crappy division like the NL Central its pathetic that you have to depend on some other team's losses to avoid loosing any ground. Us angry people are as happy if not more than anyone when we win because some people post over here as if we are always unhappy. We are also happy when we loose a hard fought match. But tonight it was yet another night when you could throw underhand and our offense would hit into double plays.

by cubsnlinux on Aug 6, 2007 10:15 PM CDT up reply actions  

don't agree
"The negativity and abject lack of realistic behavior around here is too much to take."

Everyone has their own sense of realism.

There is plenty of baseball yet top be played, but when the Division leader keeps giving you a freebie, and the team blows it, it is not fantasy to believe that the team is not doing the job now - particularly on a night a struggling pitcher pitches again.

I know - "It happens".

Happens too much to the Cubs, imo.

It is AUGUST, and we're STILL IN IT! YES!

by TheEman on Aug 6, 2007 10:04 PM CDT up reply actions  

" a struggling pitcher pitches a GEM."
It is AUGUST, and we're STILL IN IT! YES!

by TheEman on Aug 6, 2007 10:05 PM CDT up reply actions  

A struggling pitcher
Who has been lights out at home all season. And whom the Cubs pummeled a few weeks ago in Chicago.

Just once, I'd like someone to admit that, maybe, another team is pretty good.

Tonight, it was a combination of excellent pitching by the Astros and a lack of situational hitting by the Cubs.

There's anothe game tomorrow. Promise not to slit your throats before then, OK?

by Not Bruce Froemming on Aug 6, 2007 10:11 PM CDT up reply actions  

why the attitude?
let them alone.
"If you play more than two chords, you're showing off."--Woody Guthrie

by buckmulligan on Aug 6, 2007 10:16 PM CDT up reply actions  

It's just aggravating
and it just makes a downer of a night that much worse unnecessarily. Because all things considered, I still think the Cubs are in good shape.

by Not Bruce Froemming on Aug 6, 2007 10:21 PM CDT up reply actions  

don't you see that your posts
are more of a "downer"? so, what's the point. don't come here after a loss. of course, this place will be down. at least come with a joke.
"If you play more than two chords, you're showing off."--Woody Guthrie

by buckmulligan on Aug 6, 2007 10:24 PM CDT up reply actions  

I've got a joke
Ronny Cedeno is a major league shortstop.

by qccub on Aug 6, 2007 10:26 PM CDT up reply actions  

and second baseman.
"If you play more than two chords, you're showing off."--Woody Guthrie

by buckmulligan on Aug 6, 2007 10:27 PM CDT up reply actions  

Not really
And if I did tell a joke, I'd be slammed for that, too. "How can you joke at a time like this?"

Anyway, enough. Tomorrow is another day.

by Not Bruce Froemming on Aug 6, 2007 10:27 PM CDT up reply actions  

The Astros
are not pretty good. Is it a crime to be pissed off about a loss? How about four losses in the last five games? I haven't given up on the team, they are still right in it and in good position with two months to go. But they have not played well lately and aren't showing much life at the plate. I'm certainly not going to apologize for being unhappy about that. Yes, some folks think the sky is falling after every loss but so what? Those folks are not any more annoying than the ones who constantly chastise people for being "too negative." Everyone deals with things differently.

by qccub on Aug 6, 2007 10:21 PM CDT up reply actions  

Yes, but the negativity
starts right away here -- if they don't put up a five spot in the first inning, we get the same old same old.

Look, losing stinks. But it happens. After the run the Cubs have been on recently, it goes to figure they probably are overdue for a rough patch.

Some people, however, react to this as if a meteor just hit their house. Bi-polar Bettys, the lot of 'em.

by Not Bruce Froemming on Aug 6, 2007 10:24 PM CDT up reply actions  

why do you care? i don't get it.
"If you play more than two chords, you're showing off."--Woody Guthrie

by buckmulligan on Aug 6, 2007 10:25 PM CDT up reply actions  

Wrong Bruce...
Hill's era is 3.88 @ home to 3.49 on the road.

He is 3-2 at home - BAA? .243 Home, .202 Road

OBP is also higher at home with a .331 compared to .287

In fact in every catagory except wins (although tonight he should have had one) he is quite a bit higher at home.

He has been shaky recently at home for the most part, Bruce, not "lights out".

He WAS lights out in April.

It is AUGUST, and we're STILL IN IT! YES!

by TheEman on Aug 6, 2007 10:22 PM CDT up reply actions  

Ohhhh...
Yes. Indeed he is amazingly another pitcher.

Dan Pleisac stated it was the best he has ever seen the pitcher throw a curve.

A "career day".

It is AUGUST, and we're STILL IN IT! YES!

by TheEman on Aug 6, 2007 10:28 PM CDT up reply actions  

thank you.
"If you play more than two chords, you're showing off."--Woody Guthrie

by buckmulligan on Aug 6, 2007 10:02 PM CDT up reply actions  

Where are
those who said to stay still @ the trade deadline? IDC what the price was. You're trying to win now and deep inside, we all doubt Z will be back.
The deadline has come and gone. Looks like our Triple A Hall O Famers will have to lead us to the promise land.

by cubbyblue137 on Aug 6, 2007 9:57 PM CDT reply actions  

i think z will be back.
if he doesn't re-sign, then all the money the club has spent this year was a waste, and the cubs are screwed for years. they don't have any choice but to sign him.
"If you play more than two chords, you're showing off."--Woody Guthrie

by buckmulligan on Aug 6, 2007 9:59 PM CDT up reply actions  

Winning
I always scoreboard watch, even in April, but a few weeks ago I really had myself under control, thinking that winning was the only thing that mattered, nevermind what the Brewers were doing. Well, that's still true. At this rate, we'll stay one game behind the Brewers until the end and be 5 games under 500 with no wild card in the picture. need to find some offense right away, and give Marmol some more work.

by park on Aug 6, 2007 9:57 PM CDT reply actions  

Cubs need some professional hitters...
The AAA prospects are nice, but very few of them actually pan out, or teams would constantly be calling up guys from AAA. The % of AAA players who make it in the bigs has to be low. I think the Cubs need to make a trade while they still have value...Fontenot and Theriot appear to actually make contact more times than not, Pie is young and has the most "tools" to work with...Murton and Patterson should be moved, while they have some value. The Cubs just cannot count on solid contributions from this many AAA position players.

by Kirbyk70 on Aug 6, 2007 9:57 PM CDT reply actions  

murton should have been moved long ago.
i just don't think he can get you much.
"If you play more than two chords, you're showing off."--Woody Guthrie

by buckmulligan on Aug 6, 2007 10:00 PM CDT up reply actions  

its a tough one
becasue Hill pitched really well and the Astros are a really poor team.

Lee and A Ram are going to have to turn up the slugging. Lee hasnt been hitting in situations that matter (RISP) and A Ram is quietly in a mini-slump. There isnt room to hide, everyone is going to have to step up.

Let me get back to you, will ya, Charlie? I got a guy on the other line asking about some white walls.

by JB 23 on Aug 6, 2007 9:58 PM CDT reply actions  

You can't say you didn't see this coming.
Every team goes through a rough patch in the season.  Even Detroit had lost 5 straight before tonight.  It just seems worse since we're not that far above .500, and we just got done playing Philadelphia and New York.  At least we had a lead-off hitter with a couple of hits tonight.

by WartburgCub on Aug 6, 2007 10:00 PM CDT reply actions  

Step Up
Someone is going to have to step up put this team on their shoulders.  A team built with power in mind can't hit the long ball, even at juice park.

by FSArkCubsFan on Aug 6, 2007 10:00 PM CDT reply actions  

hmmmm
Cubs avg: .269
Cubs Avg RISP w/2 outs: .261

by blueapple on Aug 6, 2007 10:00 PM CDT reply actions  

The sooner Lou sends Cedeno back to
AAA and bring Pie back, I will feel better.  Let EPatt be a back up in LF or 2B and Pie be the back up in CF.  Pie brings energy to this team and it looks like it needs more energy right now.

If we can't hit a long ball, let's have out best defense and speed here.  Cedeno did nothing to move batters along early in the game when it mattered.  He got lucky with that near whiff grounder late in the game.  Cedeno looks hopeless at the plate.

That white W flag is the most beautiful sight to see. Go Cubs Go!!

by LAcarl519 on Aug 6, 2007 10:02 PM CDT reply actions  

Every Cedeno AB leads me to one of two conclusions
Either he is pressing way too much.  Or the pitching in the PCL stinks.

by MiniAndretti on Aug 6, 2007 10:03 PM CDT up reply actions  

And BTW,, EPatt
showed a nice eye at the plate against Lidge.  Clearly he did not get all his skills from his brother.  That alone makes me feel better about him (EPatt) than Cedeno.
That white W flag is the most beautiful sight to see. Go Cubs Go!!

by LAcarl519 on Aug 6, 2007 10:10 PM CDT up reply actions  

careful what you wish for
We all want the Rox to sweep the Brewers, but remember this: They're a good team playig well now, who the Cubs will play for four on the road. That's why the Astros series is so important. You can't expect to do better than split in the next one. The Cubs need to start hitting again, especially Aramis with that stupid uppercut swing.

by CubFaninNY on Aug 6, 2007 10:03 PM CDT reply actions  

GAH!
Latroy Hawkins in for the Rockies! Take cover quick!
Tinker to Evers to Chance.

by Matt Allison on Aug 6, 2007 10:06 PM CDT reply actions  

LaTroy
is on the bump. Let's all root for good old LaTroy!

by park on Aug 6, 2007 10:06 PM CDT reply actions  

Perspective
hopefully Colorado can hold on and win, leaving us still only 1GB

I think this loss seems worse in the wake of losing Soriano and the worry it place about the offense, but I don't know if Soriano would have been alot of help the way Wandy was working that curve, he got Lee and Ramirez swinging, and I would consider Soriano much more of a free swinger

by CubsFan1987 on Aug 6, 2007 10:08 PM CDT reply actions  

Soto
a trade for Piazza

Even if those guys did not play a game at catcher, they are better hitting options than Cedeno.

by IllinoisCubs on Aug 6, 2007 10:14 PM CDT reply actions  

The SS on Rockies just did his Cedeno
imitation.  E-6

...two plays in a row.

That white W flag is the most beautiful sight to see. Go Cubs Go!!

by LAcarl519 on Aug 6, 2007 10:22 PM CDT reply actions  

they were two weak grounders
that game should be over.
That white W flag is the most beautiful sight to see. Go Cubs Go!!

by LAcarl519 on Aug 6, 2007 10:24 PM CDT reply actions  

Back from the Game
That ending blew.  More to come in a diary with pictures.
Tinker to Evers to Chance!

by sanantonecub on Aug 6, 2007 10:24 PM CDT reply actions  

Al, I need to vent some frustration...
I promise to not swear.

Gosh darn it, son of a gun.  How do you get one darn run off of this stinken pitching staff?  It gets old watching opportunities slip away like this game did.  

I know some people will say: Well this was a game the Cubs should not have won.  Well, my take on that is in the beginning of the year the Cubs lost a bunch of games that they should have won, I want to see the Cubs win some games that they should have lost.

Another thing, I want to root for Ronny Cedeno, I really do.  But when he comes up in a key situation, I just feel that he will not come through.  I would rather see Mike Fontenot, even though it was against a lefty.

There, now I feel a little better.

by cubfanwill on Aug 6, 2007 10:25 PM CDT reply actions  

For one day...even tommorrow
It would be ok to Lou to Just say, "Screw it." Let the lion's share of the players have a day off and go with the kids and one or two  "essential" players.

They could not have done much worse on the "O" side.

It is AUGUST, and we're STILL IN IT! YES!

by TheEman on Aug 6, 2007 10:25 PM CDT reply actions  

not tomorrow, got to face oswalt on weds.
need to win tomorrow; otherwise, the sweep becomes a real possibility.
"If you play more than two chords, you're showing off."--Woody Guthrie

by buckmulligan on Aug 6, 2007 10:29 PM CDT up reply actions  

He did that last Thursday basically
Fontenot, Murton, and Cedeno all started.

I guess what you might want to see though is

3B Theriot
RF Patterson
CF Pagan
1B Lee
LF Murton
2B Fontenot
SS Cedeno
C  Hill
SP Marshall

That would say screw it.

by IllinoisCubs on Aug 6, 2007 10:59 PM CDT up reply actions  

Double play. We are still only a game back.
That white W flag is the most beautiful sight to see. Go Cubs Go!!

by LAcarl519 on Aug 6, 2007 10:26 PM CDT reply actions  

Many of us are dejected...
Well - I am.

However, if this team is going to make it to the playoffs this year - they are going to HAVE to take care of business against the little sisters of the poor.

They did NOT pass the litmus test this past weekend, and somehow they are gonna have to pull themselves out of this and get back in the W column with frequency, NOW.

It is AUGUST, and we're STILL IN IT! YES!

by TheEman on Aug 6, 2007 10:31 PM CDT reply actions  

Not me.
 The Cubs haven't been hot for a while; they've been a .500 team for going on 3 weeks. They've been in their slump, yet are still only a game back.
 To me, it's a real pennant race and very exciting.
 
Tinker to Evers to Chance.

by Matt Allison on Aug 6, 2007 10:36 PM CDT up reply actions  

Hit and Hit.
Please Lou no more of Cedeno. Enough, hitting him in the two hole, when I saw that at 8:00pm eastern, I almost cried.
No more Ronny and no more Pagan please.
And can someone hit a homerun this month?

by Johnny Callison was a Cub on Aug 6, 2007 10:36 PM CDT reply actions  

Yes the Cubs have lost 4 of 5.
We could not have expected the Cubs to get through the rest of the year without a bout like this.  The question will be how does the team come out of this funk and how quickly will they do it?

As we have seen with Lou, he is not the toothpick sucking Dusty.  We will see another new lineup tomorrow and he will tinker and change things and push buttons.  He will move bodies up and down from AAA (and AA if necessary) until he has the right combo of people here to be winning again.

I am convinced that Lou will get us out of this funk as quickly as humanly possible.  Lou is not sitting in his hotel room watching porn right now...well maybe he is.  But once he is done with the porn, he will be on to figuring out what to do with the line up to get more runs across the plate tomorrow.

That white W flag is the most beautiful sight to see. Go Cubs Go!!

by LAcarl519 on Aug 6, 2007 10:38 PM CDT reply actions  

LOL! Agreed...
Even with the porn, Lou will certainly make some moves to do whatever he can to jumpstart the tired engine.

You are so right. This was one reason why I was convinced that Pie would get called up b/c although he is MLB hitting challenged - he brings incredible energy.

Apparently, we'll have to wait until 9/1 to see him up here...

And how much more Cedeno do we have to watch??

It is AUGUST, and we're STILL IN IT! YES!

by TheEman on Aug 6, 2007 10:46 PM CDT up reply actions  

Agreed with all of this
I apologize for getting a bit testy tonight. Even though I try to maintain perspective, I do take these games seriously. When everybody starts piling on and gnashing teeth, it just gets to be a little too much.

I think we all want the same thing --  the Cubs to play to their potential and, with hope and luck, win a World Series.

One game out. Not bad, even though the team isn't playing all that well right now.

Should be a good couple of months, Soriano or not.

by Not Bruce Froemming on Aug 6, 2007 11:11 PM CDT up reply actions  

Please don't
stop posting like you posted above. There are far too few of us who don't think it's the end of the world if this team loses. This is just a minor slump and they will turn it around shortly.
I love this team!!!!!

by sue369 on Aug 7, 2007 7:39 AM CDT up reply actions  

I am not giving up on this team but,
I am calling out one player. Derek Lee. I know he has been a rock this year, but we were all willing to overlook his lack in power and lack of clutch hits, as of late, but now he has to find another gear.

We are not going out and getting anyone. We cannot. We have no money. I want a pizza right now, and I dont get paid until tomorrow. I dont get my pizza and the Cubs get zero help for the same reason. WE HAVE NO MONEY. So stop looking outside for help, what we have is what we get.

Positives tonight are plentiful.

Hill pitched a superb game. He was electric with the curve ball and the fastball in on all those righties. He gave one mistake to a guy you cant make mistakes against. He can get in a long line of others who have done the samee.

Theriot is a legit leadoff hitter who hit to all fields, stole third base, and played agressive tonight.

Eric Patterson can bunt. It must skip brothers genetically speaking.

Kendall keeps hitting. He came up with a clutch single against Lidge and should have been driven in, like many others this evening.

This was the worst game possible for the Cubs, coming off that tough Mets series and the injury. Wandy is a tough lefty at home, and crap, with this team, any lefty is rough. We played like we did the first half, and I am positive that Lou will not let this team crumble.

Woody Williams tomorrow night. Old, bad and a righty. I not only expect a win tomorrow, I demand it. It is just a damn shame that they faced Sean Marshall once already. Tonight.

This team will not crumble people. The teams hope of a postseason is still alive and kicking.

by louslovechild on Aug 6, 2007 11:06 PM CDT reply actions  

I agree.
Its tough to pick on a guy like Lee but you're right; he needs to turn it on, now. Your three batter can't have some of the production numbers he has. I know its tough to just flip a switch and hit the ball out of the yard but singles and doubles (to an extent) are for guys in the five spot. This teams needs to start hitting the ball out of the park. I've been adamant over time that power isn't something you need an abundance of but seriously, they make Wrigley look like a tomb.
JKuhle "I'd walk through hell in a gasonline suit to play baseball."

by TCobb1911 on Aug 6, 2007 11:30 PM CDT up reply actions  

Very well said
I guees we could use that term that everyone seems to be using in sports now a days

"circle the wagons"

and go after it

by miamicanes on Aug 6, 2007 11:33 PM CDT up reply actions  

"The teams hope of a
postseason is still alive and kicking."

Yeah, no kidding.  they're a game out and the team that's ahead of them hasn't played .500 ball since two weeks before Memorial Day.

by TR on Aug 6, 2007 11:55 PM CDT up reply actions  

how the hell are we gonna score runs
without soriano, this game was sickening and i dont see it getting any better with some of these shit prospects were using (murton, cedeno, pagan)
Bring back the damn cowbell!

by CubsBall2202 on Aug 7, 2007 12:06 AM CDT reply actions  

I'll say it again
If this team goes into the tank without Soriano, it wasn't that good in the first place.

I don't think they'll tank.

by Not Bruce Froemming on Aug 7, 2007 12:23 AM CDT reply actions  

and why exactly would that be
witnessing tonights pathetic offensive effort, whats on this team that will make it better?
Bring back the damn cowbell!

by CubsBall2202 on Aug 7, 2007 12:28 AM CDT up reply actions  

I shouldn't feed the troll, but ...
This team has had more good offensive nights than bad ones.

If nobody had seen the Cubs play before tonight and had only seen this game, they might not have been impressed. Fortunately, there are 162 games in a season, not one.

You do know they play 162 games in a season, right?

by Not Bruce Froemming on Aug 7, 2007 12:37 AM CDT up reply actions  

I have seriously thought about this
and I have come to the conclusion that Theriot's ability to get on base will become as useful as 18 solo home runs. How many times we had no one on base for a Lee double or Ramirez double. Soriano will be missed, and so will his days as a lead off hitter. Theriot and Fontenot will prove to be just as valuable a commodity as a leadoff hitter with an on base percentage of .270 since the all star break, and has a walk to strike out ratio 3 to 28 this last month.

If all D Lee can do is hit doubles, than at least now there will be someone on base for him to drive in.

And so that it doesnt seem like I am calling out only D Lee for his lack of power, Ramirez was the Pepsi Clutch Player of July. WITH 1HR and 22RBI's. 1 God Damn Home Run. Al says we cant say God Damn in this room. Doesnt matter, nobody is listening anyways. (hope you caught the reference)

by louslovechild on Aug 7, 2007 12:54 AM CDT reply actions  

yeah
theriot is quickly beocming mr dependable...but is left stranded time and time again by our 3-5 slots.  the amount of players left on base yesterday was incredibly frustrating.  
"Every player should be accorded the privilege of at least one season with the Chicago Cubs" - Alvin Dark

by holycow07 on Aug 7, 2007 8:36 AM CDT up reply actions  

I'm not going to panic
becasue of the loss of a player whose been hittng .255 since the All-Star break.

This teams been pretty lackluster in a few areas the past week.

It's amazing how freaked out people get.

phat

by phatass on Aug 7, 2007 1:02 AM CDT reply actions  

Bat Kendall 2nd
and demote Cedeno.  Dude sucks..  
SORIANO! YESSSSSSSS! JIMBO!!!

by CubFaninCA on Aug 7, 2007 2:13 AM CDT reply actions  

It's all about the pitching anyway.
Lou had been publicly cranky about the team's record against leftys, and preaching resting people during August in the middle of 20 non-stop games. He'd never admit it, but this was a throwaway for him.

 Power, shmower. They got there w/o it, let them continue the killing by a thousand cuts. If every guy gets a single or walk, the game will be well in hand.

Tinker to Evers to Chance.

by Matt Allison on Aug 7, 2007 5:52 AM CDT reply actions  

I loved that
Rich Hill pitched a great game it's just sad that his team couldn't get runs for him. Today is a new day and they will try again to get a win.
I love this team!!!!!

by sue369 on Aug 7, 2007 7:42 AM CDT reply actions  

Well
at least we are STIll only 1 game out and the Brew-crew is still on the road.... Keep the hope alive!
Bulls 402 ta zip... but Micheal Jordan will be held to under 200 points. - Todd O'Connor

by Lou In Blue on Aug 7, 2007 8:49 AM CDT reply actions  

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