Scorecard Scans

by Al on Sep 20, 2007 3:48 PM CDT in Meta BCB

I had promised during the last homestand to post scans of my scorecards -- unfortunately, this week I got too busy and wasn't able to do it till today.

Didn't think you'd want to see the card from Tuesday's loss, but here are the cards from Monday and Wednesday's big wins.

Scorecard from Cubs' 7-6 win over the Reds on Monday

Scorecard from Cubs' 3-2 win over the Reds on Wednesday

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Thanks Al!

Hey Al... this is really cool. Thanks for posting these.

Have you ever heard of Project Scoresheet? I have recently been re-introduced to this method and I love it.

You can read more about it here

http://dcortesi.home.mindspring.com/scoring/

by lohroffc on Sep 20, 2007 3:57 PM CDT 0 recs

Project Scoresheet...

... was what eventually morphed into Retrosheet. The avowed aim of Project Scoresheet was to get scoring for every game played in the public domain, since MLB was at the time (in the '80s) so reticent to get its stats out there and available. That idea seems quaint now, although MLB is pretty secretive about a lot of things now anyway.

Their system is pretty detailed and I did look at it when I first heard about P.S. in the '80s. Too detailed for me to do at a game, though, I think.

"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al on Sep 20, 2007 4:00 PM CDT up 0 recs

Scorecards

Thanks for posting Al. As someone who keeps score at most games, I am always curious to see others' approaches. Everyone seems to have a few individual nuances in the way they tell the story of a game.

On a somewhat related note, I find the Cubs' scorecards to be one of the better forms that I have used, though I wish they would go to a two page format that might allow slots for more than two relief pitchers and additional extra innings. The Pirates have some of the worst scorecards (or at least they did). Their scorecards are printed on high glossy card stock that makes the use of a pencil virtually impossible. I've transitioned to pen (Cubbie blue) in any event, which makes the occasional scoring change or public address error especially aggrevating....

by Born Again Cubs Fan on Sep 20, 2007 4:20 PM CDT 0 recs

The Cubs had room...

... for more than two pitchers before July 2005. When Greg Maddux was going for his 3000th strikeout, they took out the fourth and fifth line and made a Maddux countdown. When they took the countdown out, they didn't put the additional lines back.

Secret: I use a white-out strip to white out the "Rosters and team records" line at the bottom if I need more room. I can usually get five relievers in before I have to go to the "notes" column.

"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al on Sep 20, 2007 4:52 PM CDT up 0 recs

My scorecard

Like bornagain said, everyone has their ways of scoreing. Here is my scorecard from Wednesday. Note: I make up my own scorecard. It is a 2 page format with a bit more space and a bit bigger fonts (these 50 year old eyes aren't what they used to be!)

Page 1 (reds)
http://ignarski.tripod.com/score-page1.jpg

Page 2 (Cubs)
http://ignarski.tripod.com/score-page2.jpg

Like I said, I make up my own scorecard, so I thought I would show you what the front and back of my current scorecard looks like...
http://ignarski.tripod.com/score-front.jpg
http://ignarski.tripod.com/score-back.jpg

Kasey

by kaseyi on Sep 20, 2007 7:37 PM CDT up 0 recs

awful spelling of players' names

Howrey?
Pe?

c'mon now, learn the names.

by CubFaninNY on Sep 20, 2007 7:40 PM CDT up 0 recs

I wrote Pie...

the i and e ran together..and Howrey...what can I say...I just mispelled it when I wrote it down (twice)

Kasey

by kaseyi on Sep 20, 2007 7:43 PM CDT up 0 recs

Make that 3 times...

Oh well..I knew what I meant.

Kasey

by kaseyi on Sep 20, 2007 7:44 PM CDT up 0 recs

Ed Wade

I post this here because I don't think it's worth a diary--although I'm sure someone will diary this soon, it won't be me.

The Astros just hired Ed Wade as their GM. The same Ed Wade who was the GM for eight years in Philadelphia and won nothing.

This is very good news for the Cubs.

The artist formerly known as JoshinLA

by Josh77 on Sep 20, 2007 4:52 PM CDT 0 recs

Perfect Timing

Yesterday was National Talk Like Pirate Day. Tomorrow is National KICK SOME PIRATE BOOTY DAY!!

Go Cubbies. Bring on home!

by Bridge2Far on Sep 20, 2007 5:10 PM CDT 0 recs

Go Bennett

Nice strikeout Fielder

by vegascubsfan on Sep 20, 2007 6:43 PM CDT 0 recs

3-0 Braves

we love the Braves!

by CubFaninNY on Sep 20, 2007 7:17 PM CDT 0 recs

make that 3-1

Weeks goes yard.

by CubFaninNY on Sep 20, 2007 7:22 PM CDT up 0 recs

Scorecards in DC

At RFK, you better bring your own scorecards because the only way to get one there is plunking down the $5 bucks for a program. I don't know if this happens elsewhere, but I gotta believe this is one of the worst deals in baseball.

Dang...I just want something to root for in September

by GamePenguin on Sep 20, 2007 8:31 PM CDT 0 recs

Seen worse

At Yankee Stadium, it was $7 for a program, which was the only way to get a scorecard. At Turner Field, the options were a $10 program or a $1 single flimsy sheet of paper. I went with the $1 option and had to worry the whole time about putting a hole in it.

Oddly enough, in both stadiums, I was the only one around keeping score.

"Don't think; it can only hurt the ball club."

by Jesse Guam on Sep 20, 2007 9:36 PM CDT up 0 recs

Does anyone know...

... if they sell scorecards (as opposed to just programs) in Cincinnati?

"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al on Sep 20, 2007 9:46 PM CDT up 0 recs

Actually ...

Having just returned from Philies-Nats, I can say that there is an actual scorecard available for the last series at RFK.

It's a step in the right direction.

Actually, because I go to so many ballparks I print off a standard form - except at Wrigley. There are lots of good ones here:

http://people.iarc.uaf.edu/~cswingle/baseball/scorecards.php

¡BLANCO!

by 08Cubs on Sep 20, 2007 9:57 PM CDT up 0 recs

scorecard

Hi Al,

When we were kids the opposing teams used to walk up a staircase that was open under the grandstand. It had a chain link fence but you would stand down under the stands on the right field side and see all the players walking up the stairs to the clubhouse. The top of the fence was not that tall and we would take our scorecard and pen and hold it up at the top of the fence....which did seem high to us as 10 year olds. When the players would exit from batting practice we would stand there and the players would generally sing the scorecard. At one time I had every team in the national league on their own separate score card. Of course my mother threw them out. Lord knows what they would be worth today.

Also had a scorecard signed by Pat Peiper on Pat Peiper day. If we only knew then what we know now....

regards,
5412

by 5412 on Sep 20, 2007 8:35 PM CDT 0 recs

Wow, that would be a cool collection.

I remember walking by that staircase, too. Occasionally the players would sit there and shoot the breeze with fans during rain delays.

"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al on Sep 20, 2007 9:48 PM CDT up 0 recs

Check this out

http://insider.espn.go.com/espn/blog/index?entryID=3024705&name=stark_jayson

Barretts not doing well. I used to hate the barrett trade - now I love the trade. Addition by subtraction and we have, in my opinion, an awesome catching duo in Kendall and Soto.

Anybody think Soto could be the next coming of Pudge? He even looks like him.

by cubsonWGN4ever on Sep 20, 2007 8:42 PM CDT 0 recs

RON MAYHAY?!

Pitching in relief in the 8th.

An Ex-Cub can help us out.

It is SEPTEMBER, and we're STILL IN IT! YES!

by TheEman on Sep 20, 2007 8:52 PM CDT 0 recs

Great scorecards

Do you keep yours Al?

I have most of mine. Special ones are in a special box but other than that they are all in boxes.

I thought I kept a detailed one. You have everything but whether the batters wore boxers or briefs!

This is going to be the fall and winter of our content in Chicago.

by cubstoseriesby100 on Sep 20, 2007 8:55 PM CDT 0 recs

Over/Under

Maybe its only me but I'm going with the over on the King to Fielder put out. They're listed at 240 and 260, "respectfully".

by juicegriffin on Sep 20, 2007 9:12 PM CDT 0 recs

Brewers and Cards losing

:-D

fly your W flag Cubs fans!

by love the ivy on Sep 20, 2007 9:12 PM CDT 0 recs

BREWERS LOSE 3-1

Lead is 1.5 games, we're down 1 in the loss column with 2 less to play. Niiice.

------ TheRiot Squad ------

by RightFieldSucks on Sep 20, 2007 9:14 PM CDT 0 recs

Brewers Lost

n/t

by Jsheared on Sep 20, 2007 9:14 PM CDT 0 recs

3-1

Final. 1.5 games up. I think i'm smelling a braves series win, takin three out of four. Which would put a big hit on their playoff hopes.

by SouthsideCub on Sep 20, 2007 9:15 PM CDT 0 recs

Love it!

Brewers lose one of their games in hand...we're 1 1/2 up! Smoltz and Hudson still to come this weekend! We need to take care of business against the mighty Bucos, and maybe, just maybe, open up a slightly bigger, less stressful division lead.

It was the Alex Gonzalez error that killed us!

by Hugest Canadian Cubs Fan on Sep 20, 2007 9:16 PM CDT 0 recs

Sweet. Suds are one game

down in the loss column and face Hudson and Smoltz the next two days. Of course it would help tighten their collars IF the Cubs can take care of business at the same time that the Suds have to face those guys. GO CUBS!! Now is the time to perform to expectations and take care of business at home.

Prince Fielder...he is neither.

by LAcarl519 on Sep 20, 2007 9:17 PM CDT 0 recs

Jesus L.A. Carl,

are we sharing a brain?

Play SOTO!!!

by Hugest Canadian Cubs Fan on Sep 20, 2007 9:19 PM CDT up 0 recs

If I change my sig to

"Play SOTO!!!" will that freak you out? :-) What part of Canada do you live in? Gotta love the Loonie at par with the dollar! Who would have expected that?

Prince Fielder...he is neither.

by LAcarl519 on Sep 20, 2007 10:13 PM CDT up 0 recs

Truly, HOLY COW

MLB has quickly slapped together a post-season spot (with the annoying Dane Cook) featuring...
(wait for it)

The Cubs. I flipped over from Braves/Brew and saw this spot during a break in Nats/Phils.

"These aren't those Cubs..." says the copy..

Guess they figured the spots featuring the Marlins were....dated.

by San Diego Smooth Jazz Man on Sep 20, 2007 9:21 PM CDT 0 recs

The Number of the Day is 9

And anyone catch the St Louis score? :lol:

There is no place like Nebraska - Go Huskers!

by sanantonecub on Sep 20, 2007 9:28 PM CDT 0 recs

Marlins rally to tie Mets -- extras on tap

Hopefully, the Fish get their competitiveness out of their system against the Mets.

by San Diego Smooth Jazz Man on Sep 20, 2007 9:41 PM CDT 0 recs

Wow

After the Mets scored four in the top of the ninth to take the lead, they gave up three in the bottom of the ninth, allowing the Marlins to tie the game.

I can't say I'm not enjoying the Mets' struggles.

"Don't think; it can only hurt the ball club."

by Jesse Guam on Sep 20, 2007 9:48 PM CDT up 0 recs

and lost on the walkoff double!

Worst implosion? mets or red sox?

One of Us!One Of Us!

by HerrProf on Sep 20, 2007 10:05 PM CDT up 0 recs

Marlins win

8-7.

by Mordecai on Sep 20, 2007 10:06 PM CDT up 0 recs

"Go Cubs Go"

I would just like to mention that Mr. Steve Goodman (the author of "Go Cubs Go") died this day in 1984... September 20, 1984.

Link to life story

Today of all days I decided to research that song and its author... and I like to think that deciding to research this on 9/20 is a good omen. I've loved this song for a very long time, why did I decide to look into it today of all days??

GO! CUBS! GO!

Rest in peace, Mister Goodman. Hopefully you have some way of knowing the joy your song brings to countless Cubs fans everywhere.

by Ryno72 on Sep 20, 2007 10:09 PM CDT 0 recs

i am replying to myself but...

On September 20, 1984, Goodman died at University of Washington Hospital in Seattle, Washington, his life finally taken by the leukemia from which he had anointed himself with the tongue-in-cheek nickname "Cool Hand Leuk" (others nicknames included "Chicago Shorty" and "The Little Prince"). He was only 36. Eleven days later, the Chicago Cubs played their first post-season game since 1945; Goodman had been asked to sing "The Star-Spangled Banner" before it; Jimmy Buffett filled in, and dedicated the song to Goodman. Some of Goodman's ashes were scattered at Wrigley Field, the home of the Chicago Cubs. He is survived by his wife and three daughters.

by Ryno72 on Sep 20, 2007 10:24 PM CDT up 0 recs

Go Cubs Go

is a horrible song. Steve Goodman wrote many really wonderful songs. Go Cubs Go is not one of them. It's actually worse than Hey Hey Holy Mackeral. And that's saying something.

by TR on Sep 20, 2007 11:09 PM CDT up 0 recs

wow

it's the anniversary of the day the guy died.

and people scream that song at wrigley after a cubs victory.

by Ryno72 on Sep 20, 2007 11:21 PM CDT up 0 recs

I had no idea...

...that he had written "City of New Orleans." That song is awesome.

This brings the total of Goodman songs I know to...five, I think. (Last Request, Go Cubs Go, Lincoln Park Pirates, and You Never Even Call Me By My Name.)

I think I just might have to go find more.

Before each game, please remember to feed the bats.

by Cool Hand on Sep 21, 2007 7:56 AM CDT up 0 recs

You should get...

... Clay Eals' book "Facing The Music, an amazing biography of Goodman which contains a CD with many songs on it.

I've got this book but confess I haven't had time to read it. I will once the season is over.

"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al on Sep 21, 2007 8:08 AM CDT up 0 recs

This is a GREAT book...

and I say that even if 2 pictures I took of the 1984 playoffs were not in the book (but they are!)

Kasey

by kaseyi on Sep 21, 2007 7:21 PM CDT up 0 recs

me too!

i learned a lot from that little wikipedia article. he did write some great songs. rest in peace, steve goodman.

by Ryno72 on Sep 21, 2007 9:23 AM CDT up 0 recs

Am I reading this right?

Did Aaron Miles just come in as a relief pitcher for the Cardinals?

by mistersite on Sep 20, 2007 10:09 PM CDT 0 recs

seems like it

1 IP, 3 hits 2 runs, 1HR.

by CubFaninNY on Sep 20, 2007 10:43 PM CDT up 0 recs

Cardinals Freefall

Somebody call China and tell them to expect LaRussa in the next couple of days.

¡BLANCO!

by 08Cubs on Sep 20, 2007 10:53 PM CDT up 0 recs

Anyone notice who is pitching on Saturday?

Unbelievable. I hate Zach Duke. Cub killer. We are a collective 1 - 4 this season against the three starters this weekend. The lone win was the 1 - 0 Marquis win over Gorzellany. Why? Just tell me why.

by louslovechild on Sep 20, 2007 11:11 PM CDT 0 recs

Are the Cubs champions...

or not? Let's not worry about who we are playing, or who is pitching against us, let them worry about the prospect of playing us and our pitching staff.

Champions are afraid of no one, they strike fear in the opposition. The Pirates, Marlins, and Reds better be ready because the powerfuil Cubs are coming - be afraid, be very afraid!!!

I loved it when Harry cried, "Cubs Win, Cubs Win!"

by Ken Hubbs on Sep 21, 2007 1:05 AM CDT 0 recs

Now THIS...

... is the right attitude!

Let's hope the players have it.

"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al on Sep 21, 2007 7:47 AM CDT up 0 recs

Cubs vs. Lefties

Al,

this is more appropriate for tonight's game thread, but do you or anyone else know the team's record vs. lefties post-Monroe pick up?

I always thought that our vs. lefty record was an anomaly considering we have so many good right handed hitters. Like our 1 run game record, I figure it would even out over the course of the season but does anyone know how we stand since we picked up Craig "the lefty-masher" Monroe? ;)

by The Ryno and I Know on Sep 21, 2007 8:40 AM CDT 0 recs