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Open Thread: Cubs vs. Pirates, Friday 9/21, 1:20 CT

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The Cubs, as you know, picked up a half game in the standings last night while resting at home when the Braves beat the Brewers 3-1. Now, Milwaukee must face Tim Hudson and John Smoltz today and tomorrow, while the Cubs are playing a team that they should be beating, but haven't so far this year (5-7 vs. Pittsburgh).

The time for talk is over. Just win.

 Today's Starting Pitchers
Jason Marquis
 J. Marquis
Cubs		 vs. Paul Maholm
 P. Maholm
Pirates
12-8 W-L 10-15
4.07 ERA 4.76
102 SO 102
71 BB 49
22 HR 20
vs. Pit -- vs. Cubs
Jason Marquis threw his best game of the year against the Pirates on May 9 at Wrigley Field -- a three-hit shutout. He's 8-3, 4.01 in 16 starts at home this season, and the Cubs are 8-2 in his starts (not his record, the club record in games he's started, including one road game I attended) since I acquired my Marquis jersey, which I'll be wearing again today.

None of the Pirates hits him particularly well except for Jason Bay, who is .382/.450/.912 (13-for-34, 4 doubles, a triple, 4 HR).

Paul Maholm got pounded by the Astros in his last start on September 16, allowing ten earned runs in 2.2 innings. Maybe we could have the Cubs dress up in Astros uniforms; they have never beaten Maholm. He's 4-0 lifetime vs. the Cubs, although with a 4.94 ERA. Aramis Ramirez (4-for-11, a HR) and Alfonso Soriano (3-for-8, a HR) are the only Cubs who have had any decent success against Maholm.

It's going to be summerlike today:

Today: Mostly sunny, with a high near 89. South southwest wind between 10 and 15 mph.
Finally, have a little fun with Lou!

Today's game is cable-only in the Pittsburgh and Chicago areas; it's also on the EI list, and at today's Mediacenter link.

MLB.com Gameday (2007 version)

MLB.com Gameday (2006 version)

MLB.com Gameday for the Brewers/Braves game (6:05 CT start, TV on ESPN - I'll put this link in today's recap later this afternoon as well)

Discuss amongst yourselves.

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GO CUBS !!!!!!!
A day of rest should have done wonders.

by coral on Sep 21, 2007 9:19 AM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

oh boy...
...i am leaving work early today so that i can watch the game on EI. it is my understanding that a tape of harry's final rendition of tmottbg will be played.

i anticipate i'll have goosebumps!

"If you'da been thinkin you wouldn't 'a thought that." ~~ "Squints" Palledorous

by rm463 on Sep 21, 2007 9:21 AM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

GO CUBS GO!!!!
Can't wait until game time!
Walking by the ballpark on my way to work this morning there was already a large line waiting to get tickets. Very much a playoff atmosphere and this is at 7 in the morning!
Hopefully the Cubbies play well tonight and Marquis has good command as well.

by Tangled Up In Blue on Sep 21, 2007 9:37 AM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

GO CUBS GO!!! Part II
Well... I'm on my way to Arizona for business for the next 7 days. I hope the Cubs are sitting nicely atop the division when I return!

Will chime in from the road, when I have the chance.

1-RUN GAMES = 23-22 | EXTRA INNINGS = 2-8 | HOME = 41-37 | updated on 9/20

by SackMan on Sep 21, 2007 9:54 AM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

SackMan
Have a good trip.
I too hope the Cubs are sitting nicely atop the division!
Wouldn't that be a nice gift to return too!?

by Tangled Up In Blue on Sep 21, 2007 11:37 AM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Zona representin
 Hey Sack I'm in Phoenix, if you're in the area at all and want to hook up to watch a Cubbie game and a cold 1 let me know. Who knows, maybe a little of my vast knowledge of baseball will even rub off on ya.

 Either way, enjoy AZ you're coming out at the right time, only supposed to be upper 90's for a week.

by lemon20pie on Sep 21, 2007 4:37 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Good times
I hope we all have a good time no matter what. This is what being a cubs fan is all about. A hell of a lot better then the last 3 years.

I have the feel the Cubs have the momentum and good things will happen this weekend.

6-01-2007 the Cubs begin to rise. They will never look back.

by Scott G F on Sep 21, 2007 9:41 AM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

The Braves
rookie pitcher did a favor for us last night. This weekend is a key to the season. We take care of business and the good Braves pitchers take care of their business and we'll be in good shape!
This is Harry Carray, goodbye from Wrigley Field and So Long Everybody.

by mrcubsfan on Sep 21, 2007 9:47 AM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Actually Bennett first appeared as a Brewer
I think 2004 and then had major surgery and now has finally returned to the bigs sticking it to his old organization that cut him lose.

Well touche is baseball mantra.....

Cubs 2-12 one run games 04-05/07 21-10 since.

by Ivy Walls on Sep 21, 2007 10:05 AM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Crappy pitchers
I was curious about how many bad pitchers the Brewers have been facing lately, so I looked it up. It's pretty bad (follow the link if you want your eyes to bleed). Luckily, the Cubs somehow gained 2 games over that stretch. Good job, crappy rookie pitchers!!!
It's nice to see random no-name pitchers help the Cubs after kicking the snot out of us the last 2-3 years. ;)
rain delay theatre

by rob9802 on Sep 21, 2007 1:45 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I just Piniella-ed
every Cubs, Cards, and Sox fan I know. I don't even know of any Brewer fans this far south of Chicago. Some will appreciate it, other will not, bet you can guess who will not :-)
fly your W flag Cubs fans!

by love the ivy on Sep 21, 2007 9:51 AM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

This is it!
By tonight, we'll have a 2 1/2 game lead!

[b]Go Cubs Go![/b]

Feel the Brees.

by SouthernBrees on Sep 21, 2007 9:51 AM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I'm not sure of its legality
(so I may or may not have used it), but SopCast streams MLB games for every game played. It can do the same for football and basketball(when it comes back) too.
"We are going to light up the SB Nation server farm like a Christmas tree." - cwyers

by NittanyCub on Sep 21, 2007 10:01 AM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

LOL
LOVE the potential disclaimer there!! :)
Missing Da Cubbies from NYC!

by dacubsfan76 on Sep 21, 2007 10:06 AM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

re: I'm not sure of its legality
Legality aside, I'm wondering whether any spyware/adware comes along with the software you must download to view the games.

Assuming you've used SopCast, have you had any problems?

"It's big because it knocks them out of semi-contention." Jason Marquis referring to the St. Louis Cardinals on 9/16/07

by dat cubfan daver on Sep 21, 2007 10:11 AM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Malware
I haven't noticed any.  I downloaded and installed it, but I only used it once.  I had a bad feeling about it (not the legality, although there was that, but more because I thought I might be compromising my computer).  I'm a developer, so I notice performance issues pretty quickly.  I also check running processes on my machine regularly and have not seen anything out of the ordinary.
Linus: Life is rarely all one way, Charlie Brown. You win some, you lose some. Charlie Brown: Really? Gee, that'd be neat.

by CyberCyclist on Sep 21, 2007 10:28 AM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

re: Malware
Thanks for the feedback! I must say I'm rather tempted here...
"It's big because it knocks them out of semi-contention." Jason Marquis referring to the St. Louis Cardinals on 9/16/07

by dat cubfan daver on Sep 21, 2007 10:35 AM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Nothing's been wrong at my end.
However, you probably know a ton more about computers than I do and spot problems faster. But I've been using it for about a year and a half, and it works great. It does have ~5 minute delay between real time and stream, though

Granted, I have Norton and ad-aware, and run spybot checks every other week just to make sure.

Here's the schedule for all the games, and their respective channels that you can use if you have it. If it's not legal, then I wouldn't know anything about it though. My friend told me about it, whom I can't really remember

"We are going to light up the SB Nation server farm like a Christmas tree." - cwyers

by NittanyCub on Sep 21, 2007 10:38 AM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

SopCast
I've also installed it and have not noticed any glaring problems from spyware, though it's difficult to tell where junk comes from nowadays.  I've only used it once for the Cubs (to watch the end of a game) as I primarily use it for the Bears since I don't live in Chicago and I can't afford NFL Gameday ticket.

It is a grey area:  if a normal person has to pay to receive the service, then getting it "free" on SopCast is like stealing.  I don't mind using Gameday for baseball games, but football has more action and players involved on each play.

I hope the NFL can shake off its alliance with DirecTV and make games available over the net.  It's going to be awhile before that happens.  MLB was never captive to a single satellite provider.

Pie, Fontenot, Theriot and Soto up the middle ... yippie oh, oh, oh!

by SpudV on Sep 21, 2007 10:47 AM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

re: SopCast
Yeah, like so many questionable things online, it is a grey area.

I mean, I pay to receive Comcast cable, in part to be able watch many/most Cubs games. But I can't access my cable box here at work, so am I really stealing to watch the games via SopCast? Technically, I've paid to watch the game on TV and, presumably, MLB will receive some of that revenue from Comcast. So they're not losing revenue if I watch the game on SopCast.

I'm probably committing some glaring ethical mistake here, though...

Hello, Soto!

by dat cubfan daver on Sep 21, 2007 10:58 AM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

In the wise words of Chris Rock(where did HE go?)
"Sometimes, I just like to steal."
"We are going to light up the SB Nation server farm like a Christmas tree." - cwyers

by NittanyCub on Sep 21, 2007 11:05 AM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Yes! The great urban philosopher.......
....Mr. Rock also said "I'm not saying it's right-I'm just saying I understand." Which works for the Sopcast situation and many of the gray areas in morality, ethics and law. A genius.
"Baseball is like church- many attend, few understand." ~ Leo Durocher

by The Lip on Sep 21, 2007 11:43 AM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Interesting point....
You did pay Comcast to watch the game so you should be able to watch the game.  From an ethical standpoint, you are right.  From a legal standpoint, Sopcast hasn't purchased the rights to broadcast the game.  In essance, you are not stealing from Comcast, Sopcast is stealing from Comcast.  

How's that for some sophistry?

Linus: Life is rarely all one way, Charlie Brown. You win some, you lose some. Charlie Brown: Really? Gee, that'd be neat.

by CyberCyclist on Sep 21, 2007 11:14 AM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

re: Interesting point....
Well, that makes me feel better. Let Comcast worry about it! :-)

Which inspires me to ask: Why doesn't Comcast offer its subscribers Internet access to certain channels/programs? (Uh, namely, baseball games!) I'm guessing a lot of us would take advantage of this service. And I'd even consider paying a reasonable extra amount on my cable bill to be able to access Cubs game via the Web.

Of course, they'd probably want to charge an arm and leg for such a service...

Hello, Soto!

by dat cubfan daver on Sep 21, 2007 11:37 AM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

CyberCyclist is right......
..Sopcast is the one doing the stealing. This is exactly why I can do my shopping at pawn shops and out of the back of the trucks operated by various "wandering merchants" without guilt.
"Baseball is like church- many attend, few understand." ~ Leo Durocher

by The Lip on Sep 21, 2007 11:50 AM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Sopcast
I've used it a million times to watch english football (come on you Arsenal!), but never for MLB. This afternoon, I think I'll try Sopcast to watch the game. It's gotta be better than Gamecast, though Gamecast is faster than the mlb internet radio feed.

by SouthsideCub on Sep 21, 2007 12:16 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

It's not DirecTV
that's keeping Sunday Ticket off of cable (although I'm sure they're ecstatic about it) but rather Fox and CBS.  It's the same issue that we have with blackouts of Saturday afternoon Fox baseball games of the week--the two networks want you to be watching their local broadcasts on their local channels with their local advertisers.

The networks didn't say anything when Sunday Ticket started on BUD systems and when it migrated to DirecTV because both were really small at the time and it wasn't worth arguing over.  But now that DirecTV has become big, it's a major headache for them.  DirecTV gets grandfathered in, but all the networks have said that the rights payments that they're willing to shell out for the NFL would go down substantially if Sunday Ticket were available on cable systems.  (It's another reason why ST is so freakin' expensive.  They're trying to keep the number of subscribers down.)

So far from the NFL wanting to "shake off" it's partnership with DirecTV, it's the NFL that's keeping it going.  The NFL isn't "captive" to DirecTV, it's trying to please the broadcast networks.

The artist formerly known as JoshinLA

by Josh77 on Sep 21, 2007 12:13 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Usually not
Are you getting a good internet signal?

I posted a link up for the channels. If one of them doesn't work, you might wanna try using the other

"We are going to light up the SB Nation server farm like a Christmas tree." - cwyers

by NittanyCub on Sep 21, 2007 1:59 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

If we win series...
...things ought to begin to resolve.  Right now, with Atlanta doing us a huge favor by beating Milwaukee last night (and the irony of a former Milwaukee team beating the current one is not lost on me!) we are a very important game up in the loss column.  

Can the Brewers win two more games over the ever-diminishing remainder of the season than the Cubs?  That is now the question.  And their climb gets steeper every time out.

For the first time in this anxiety-wracked season, I'm beginning to truly believe.  Time is now on our side.

by MN exile on Sep 21, 2007 10:02 AM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Baseball is always about the odds and anomolies
Cubs odds of taking 2 of 3 over the next three series against teams in last place or near the bottom (Cincinnati) over the course of the season is significant....Winning 6 of 9 and finishing 86-76 is a reasonable projection especially taken that over those 9 starts, 8 of them will be our front line pitchers where 2 of them have a .600 record where the club has won the games they have started. Those two pitchers will appear 4 times, thus one can state that the Cubs should expect a minimum of 3 wins from those 4 starts. Thus you are inquiring whether the Cubs can win 3 of 5 from the other three pitchers who have a .500 record. Based on the fact that the Cubs are playing sub.500 teams the odds are 70% plus that they should win 6 of 9.

Now the Brewers have a harder road to sow...they have to win 9 of ten to win outright and 8 of 10 to tie. They have to face two pitchers who have a combined .666 and .582 club winning percentage and they are facing those two on the road where the Brewers are sub .400. They then come home to face the Cardinals and then Padres, who will be putting forward Young & Maddux along with Tomko and Cassel. Brewers have the best home record,

But the odds of going 8 of 10 is now reduced to 25%, with each loss those odds reduce and the Cubs odds increase.

Now all that can be wiped away by the human factor on the field and why they play the games.

Cubs 2-12 one run games 04-05/07 21-10 since.

by Ivy Walls on Sep 21, 2007 10:19 AM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

re: Baseball is always about the odds...
"Now all that can be wiped away by the human factor on the field and why they play the games."

Amen to that. Chicago Cubs: JUST PLAY HARD!!!

"It's big because it knocks them out of semi-contention." Jason Marquis referring to the St. Louis Cardinals on 9/16/07

by dat cubfan daver on Sep 21, 2007 10:22 AM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Baseball & odds
Exactly.  Milwaukee's window is slowly and inexorably closing.  If we play good ball at all they're going to need to run the table just to have a chance.

Like I said, I'm beginning to let myself believe.  And looking forward to some October baseball I can actually care about - other than the usual hoping that the Yankees get beat, that is.

by MN exile on Sep 21, 2007 12:25 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

You do know
it's only you, I, Al, and a handful of others who can note the irony. They are all so young here...it's like when our forefathers referred to the damn Gashouse Gang. Seemed like 100 years ago to us, then.

(The Braves were in Milwaukee???)

And if you told them the Braves were in Boston they'd probably think you were nuts.

Of course, this is all in good fun....

by San Diego Smooth Jazz Man on Sep 21, 2007 1:53 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Old folks' home...
Probably not a good idea to mention the Brooklyn Dodgers, K.C. (pre-Oakland) A's, Seattle Pilots (who later became the Brewers), NY (now SF) Giants, Washington Senators (who became the Twins), or any of the other baseball history.

And the old Negro Leagues - Ernie Banks playing for the K.C. Monarchs, for example...

Granted, much of that was before my time, still, it's one of the reasons I really do love baseball - it has an amazingly rich history.  

Gray hair has some effects, I guess.  At least I still have hair to get gray!

And the amount I learned from my maternal grandfather (and my mother!) about baseball - they took me to my first game in Wrigley,, I think I was 6 at the time.  Or how my two nieces, both now  Chicagoans, are both huge Cub fans.

Or the story I shot a few years back about Bob Casey, the late Metrodome PA announcer - his son was running the low home cam right next to him during the game.

Baseball nostalgia and family connections - maybe subjects for an off-day diary all their own.

by MN exile on Sep 21, 2007 2:15 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Things are beginning to look up
With the loss of the Brew Crew last night, we are back to the usual 1.5 game lead. Atlanta has been hot winning the last 4 and with smoltz and hudson on the mount the next 2 days, this could spell disaster for the brewers. If the cubbies, can pull 2 out of 3 this weekend, We should be sitting up 3 games by the time Tuesday rolls around. The Padres will playing for the division or the wildcard next weekend vs the Crew, the cards are starting to line up in our favor. All we got to do is win and do a little scoreboard watching.

Believe!!!

by mossey12 on Sep 21, 2007 10:17 AM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Hopefully the Rockies will
sweep their series against the Padres which starts tonight.  That way San Diego will be assured to be fighting for their playoff lives when they face the Brewers.

by Neifi Puppy on Sep 21, 2007 10:20 AM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Interesting Factoid about the Rockies
They have a better record than the Cubs (81-72 vs 80-73) and are in third place in the NL West.

They can certainly kick a little Padre butt tonight if they want.

by JFCubFan on Sep 21, 2007 11:40 AM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

On top of that...
...is the fact that Padre losses keep the Braves in the Wild Card chase for the time-being.

by michaelb on Sep 21, 2007 11:53 AM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Sweet
Will the Brewers know what hit them when it's over I wonder?

Go Braves!
Go Rockies!

G O   C U B S ! ! !

by JFCubFan on Sep 21, 2007 12:40 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I'm very excited
for the game today. Hope the day off has them energized and ready to win. Hope Derrek enjoyed his filming of ER yesterday.

GO CUBS!!!

Shawn Johnson, Des Moines, IA, worlds greatest gymnast. 2007 All Around World Champ. GO SHAWN!!!!

by sue369 on Sep 21, 2007 10:22 AM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

hopefully
they can get off to a good start in the series today. It would be a big confidence booster for the guys if they can knock around these Pittsburgh LHP a little bit.
AC 00 00 00 - BELIEVE

by mike on Sep 21, 2007 10:27 AM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

First game of the series most important
Cubs are 17-4 (3 ties) when they win the first game of a series and have won only 5 series when they lost the first game, (their 5th being Houston last week).

Winning this game gives them a 70% of winning the series...it basically then is the difference in the odds of the Cubs losing the next two. Winning this game will put added pressure on the Brewers tonight, where a loss would put them down 2 in the loss column (provided Cubs win) and 3 in the win column.

Cubs 2-12 one run games 04-05/07 21-10 since.

by Ivy Walls on Sep 21, 2007 10:35 AM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Just to let you all know; Cubs vs. LHP'ers this yr
Much as been made of the Cubs current record against left handed starters now at 16-22, that said the record at the end of August was 12-20, so they have picked up 2 games on the ratio, going 4-2 to date in September).

---Back at the end of May the Cubs were 5-9....meaning they have won 11 games and lost 13 from the time their season has turned around.
----Meaning if they had won one more game against a left handed starter it would be .500. Cubs will face three lefties this weekend one a bona fide top of the rotation pitcher in Gorz....I think the Cubs will take the Pirates lefties win the series 2 of 3 moving their lefty record to 18-23...or 13-14 since late May.
-----They then are scheduled to face Willis and Olsen where I suspect they will split with them and finish the regular season 19-24 and since June--14-15...I don't consider it a problem.

Now cutting deeper the problem could be that Murton has started to contribute a little more and getting a right handed CF'er might also be a help.

 

Cubs 2-12 one run games 04-05/07 21-10 since.

by Ivy Walls on Sep 21, 2007 10:28 AM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Stupid Article
By Trib's Van "Dick" about the worst ten losses by the Cubs this year.  What a hoser.  Article is totally pointless.   He doesn't understand Cub Fans at all.

http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/cs-070920cubs,1,2640672.story

by coral on Sep 21, 2007 10:29 AM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

re: Stupid Article
Yup, I noticed this article, too, and, after realizing its purpose, opted not to read it. What an obnoxious, tasteless, snarky effort to undertake at this point in the season. Why not save an article like that to run in the event the Cubs don't win the division?
"It's big because it knocks them out of semi-contention." Jason Marquis referring to the St. Louis Cardinals on 9/16/07

by dat cubfan daver on Sep 21, 2007 10:34 AM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I didn't mind it so much
It just shows how far this team has come.  However, I think the Trib now owes us a  "Best ten wins" story by the Cubs.

by Neifi Puppy on Sep 21, 2007 10:41 AM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

So ridiculous.
The Red Sox fan makes me want to throw things. "Oh, my GM is an evil supervillain whose evil plan for world domination is working like clockwork! Oh, woe is me! I can't understand the interaction of small sample sizes and relief pitching!" And you work for the dominate sports media platform of our day and age? Disgusting.

Joe Sheehan is absolutely right -- Red Sox fans need to shut the hell up.

FREE CARMEN PIGNATIELLO!

by cwyers on Sep 21, 2007 11:20 AM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Marquis Jersey
Are you sure that Marquis jersey isn't just a SOSA jersey w/ the name taken off? Hehe. Whatever works!
You can't quiet THE RIOT (riotshirts.com)

by TipsyMcStagger on Sep 21, 2007 10:37 AM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Lineup
Per ESPN 1000
Soriano lf
DeRosa 2b
Lee 1b
Ramirez 3b
Murton rf
Soto c
Monroe cf
Theriot ss
Marquis p

by manny k on Sep 21, 2007 10:39 AM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Soto -- good, Monroe -- maybe
Hope Monroe begins to show his stuff.  I like Soto in there.

by zevkalman on Sep 21, 2007 10:44 AM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

sooooo due
Monroe is SO overdue for something to actually HAPPEN...

by drewishdrewid on Sep 21, 2007 11:14 AM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Interesting choice to
start Monroe.  But the Cubs acquired him because he can hit lefties.  Time to earn that paycheck.

by Neifi Puppy on Sep 21, 2007 10:44 AM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

re: Lineup
A lineup really, really wrought with righties. I'll go to war with this. It'd be nice to see Monroe get a big hit or two.
"It's big because it knocks them out of semi-contention." Jason Marquis referring to the St. Louis Cardinals on 9/16/07

by dat cubfan daver on Sep 21, 2007 10:46 AM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

MONROE = N!EF!
Detriot's payback.
You can't quiet THE RIOT (riotshirts.com)

by TipsyMcStagger on Sep 21, 2007 10:48 AM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Monroe>Niefi
monroe is better than niefi because...
I) Monroe much more power than Nieifi.

B) Monroe is much less of a Defensive liability

iii) Monroe does not have a brother who is in a Mereingi band.
http://youtube.com/watch?v=s1NsnRAaYiw

e) Monroe is not being overused by a manager determined not to play any young players.

5) Neifi perez needed perfomance enhancing drugs to reach his level of suckitude.

The Astros just asked me to start their next game

by jds2 on Sep 21, 2007 10:57 AM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Monroe will make an impact this weekend
He has hit some screaming line drives, a dead pull hitter who will occassionally spray a line drive to right field. His defense is okay and in the small field at Wrigley not much of a liability.

Baseball has so much failure...that it is easy to diss on a player, that is why nine bat....or you have a bullpen.

Monroe is so much better than Neifi than the dripping sarcasm was really uncalled for.

Club stats since June'07; 58-44, against LHP starters; 11-13, and 21-10 in one run games.

by Ivy Walls on Sep 21, 2007 11:06 AM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

sorry
my intention was misread.  I like the aquiring of monroe and I wasn't trying ot diss him just point out that he is by no means neifi
The Astros just asked me to start their next game

by jds2 on Sep 21, 2007 11:08 AM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Fair enough...
...I just have not like what I've seen from him (hustle-wise). Was talking to a Tigers fan about him, and he is apparently a VERY streaky player. Let's hope that he can get it going this afternoon with the wind blowing out.
You can't quiet THE RIOT (riotshirts.com)

by TipsyMcStagger on Sep 21, 2007 11:37 AM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

You should be used to the streaky player...
if you've watched Soriano at all.
As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.

by santoswoodenlegs on Sep 21, 2007 11:47 AM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I wasn't aware that Neifi was...
a defensive liability.  In fact, I thought his defense was the only remotely useful thing about him.  I'd say Neifi is more valuable defensively than Monroe (who's basically a corner OF).

by SouthernCub on Sep 21, 2007 12:02 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

You are correct....
...although Neifi probably has attrophied to the point where he is no longer defensively adequate as an everyday shortstop anymore.

Oh, and amphetamines.

FREE CARMEN PIGNATIELLO!

by cwyers on Sep 21, 2007 12:06 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Isn't that Neifi* ?
Gotta be consistent!
Prince Fielder...he is neither.

by LAcarl519 on Sep 21, 2007 12:07 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

This lineup
is probably close to what we'll have all weekend with all LHP against us.  The only change I could see is kendall catching one or both of the remaining games.

Also, I think last night was the brewers best chance at getting a win vs. the braves...while I doubt they'll get swept I can't see them winning two of the next three.

The Astros just asked me to start their next game

by jds2 on Sep 21, 2007 10:48 AM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Lou is playing the HOT HANDS
Besides Soriano's power this month...where he is getting the most possible AB's for this power hot hand...7 HR's and 1.001-OPS
----DeRosa; For the month 23/66 .348....932-OPS
-----Soto  for the month 11/24 .458 ....1.375 OPS!

putting Theriot down in the 8th spot ahead of a good hitting pitcher allows him to use his 'energy game' as Theriot has been fading in September, 13/70 .186 (.256-OBP)....I think we may see Theriot down at that spot for the remainder of the season or unless his game suddenly picks up.

Club stats since June'07; 58-44, against LHP starters; 11-13, and 21-10 in one run games.

by Ivy Walls on Sep 21, 2007 10:52 AM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Why Theriot so low?
Any reason The Riot is down in the 8 spot? An attempt by Lou to "reload" the lineup at the bottom and maybe let Soriano get some more RBIs while he's hot?

Whatever it is, I agree with Lou....in Lou I trust ("in Lou we do"? "By Pinella, we're propella-ed"?...nothing seems to have the old "In Dusty we Trusty" ring to it....)

by Chadnudj on Sep 21, 2007 10:53 AM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

perhaps
I like theriot at 8.  He seems to consistantly get good AB's and hopefully he can get onbase for either a sac bunt or to keep the 9 spot from leading off the next inning.   Plus if teams pitch around him to get to the 9 spot he won't strike out swinging at the bad pitches
The Astros just asked me to start their next game

by jds2 on Sep 21, 2007 10:59 AM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

see above and pay attention
Theriot has had a good year, wrestled SS away from Izturis, been the energy guy offensively but he is fading fast offensively. He is batting a mere .186 in September and an OBP .256....neither are top of the order stats.
----For all the support to move him to lead off in September he only batted .276 with a .315 OBP...far cry from July when he was hot and batted .348 and had a .437 OBP.

Theriot is a valuable player on a team, he gives more offensively than the stats can show, he forces the defense to react but he has to learn to get more hits to left and center field.

Club stats since June'07; 58-44, against LHP starters; 11-13, and 21-10 in one run games.

by Ivy Walls on Sep 21, 2007 11:02 AM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

re:"see above and pay attention "
In his defense once the comments start to pile up it can be pretty tough to join in and not miss stuff and coments made to a "later" discussion are usually not replied back to.
The Astros just asked me to start their next game

by jds2 on Sep 21, 2007 11:06 AM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Sorry I was not insinuating about reading this
board....but saying that Theriot's offensive statistics have been on a slide for some time. Heck he peaked at .290 in late August and now is batting .268...that is big slide....

Not directed at you per se, but this manager unlike the previous ones has stated unequivably that he makes decisions that will give his team the best chance to win. So when he drops a hitter from the #2 to the #8 it is a valid question to inquire, but the obvious is that Theriot has not performed as needed in the role.

DeRosa just came off a 10 for 10 streak against Cincinnati....that by itself would warrant a move by a manager to pull DeRosa up who is hot right now and get him more AB's....the same for Soto...he is exceedingly hot....and doing well behind the plate....ride that horse like a pony express rider....

Club stats since June'07; 58-44, against LHP starters; 11-13, and 21-10 in one run games.

by Ivy Walls on Sep 21, 2007 11:15 AM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

fair enough
and i agree, I was dissapointed they got lou instead of Giradi but lou had been really good this year.
The Astros just asked me to start their next game

by jds2 on Sep 21, 2007 11:18 AM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

With the Theriot slide
It makes sense that Lou would bump him down in the lineup. Today is a good day to do it, with Marquis hitting ninth. He is traditionally supposed to be a good-hitting pitcher although hasn't lived up to that this year. Still, with that reputation, hopefully he can at least get down a bunt, being that he is not Rich Hill.

by montanacubby on Sep 21, 2007 11:33 AM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

re: Sorry I was not insinuating about reading this
I think one of the main reasons Theriot's offensive slide has slid by the wayside is that he still does a lot of little things to help the Cubs win games. He's still solid on defense, steals bases, runs out slow rollers, etc.

And I know something Steve Stone remarks upon often is Theriot's batting average after the seventh inning. I'm too lazy to look it up, but I think it may take some of the edge off of his poorer overall numbers.

Wednesday night's game was a prime example of how Theriot seems to always be sparking those late-inning rallies we've come to know and love.

Hello, Soto!

by dat cubfan daver on Sep 21, 2007 11:43 AM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

granted...I can't access his hit/inning
But the big picture is this. Theriot like all hitters has weak spots and hot spots. FOX has a nice set of graphics and if you look at Theriot he has 23 hits to RF, 18 to center, 9 to left and 8 on the infield and 2 HR's He is hitting .340+ with pitches down the middle (.405 up and middle) and if you pitch him up and outside .320...

The league is beginning to figure him out, but make a mistake up and he hurts you. He is right on the league average for his position, higher  in RBI's by double and runs 77 league average is 18 and okay stealing a base.

He is a strong #8 hitter.

Club stats since June'07; 58-44, against LHP starters; 11-13, and 21-10 in one run games.

by Ivy Walls on Sep 21, 2007 12:49 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

at lunchtime
I'm going to go buy me an AM radio with an earbud.  I've got my shirt.  I've got my BCB.  I've got gameday.

GO CUBBIES!

by drewishdrewid on Sep 21, 2007 11:16 AM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I love seeing this...
It's a beautiful day, the crowds are building, it's an exciting place to be.  Wrigley Cam
Linus: Life is rarely all one way, Charlie Brown. You win some, you lose some. Charlie Brown: Really? Gee, that'd be neat.

by CyberCyclist on Sep 21, 2007 11:19 AM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

WHAT!!! YOU love seeing
this.  Man this is torture,  Im sitting in an office in the middle of Iowa and I cannot see my cubs play this afternoon and you want to show all the fun the rest of the world is doing!

Come on STOP the torture:)

GO CUBS!!!!!!

Confucius say: Baseball wrong - man with four balls cannot walk. - Author Unknown

by BigZ 4 Cy on Sep 21, 2007 11:56 AM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Now you can have your own...
http://www.buildyourownchicago.com/WrigleyField.html

I'm not sure I'd have the patience to actually fold this and put it together, but it's pretty cool!

by MN exile on Sep 21, 2007 12:38 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Are we on WGN today??
MMMMM...Fernandos fajitas and margaraitas

by Kinky Reggae on Sep 21, 2007 11:36 AM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

comcast
"If you play more than two chords, you're showing off."--Woody Guthrie

by buckmulligan on Sep 21, 2007 11:40 AM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

i have meetings.
so, i'm taping the game. i have to find a way to block all updates and hints of the game. i hope marquis throws a shutout.
"If you play more than two chords, you're showing off."--Woody Guthrie

by buckmulligan on Sep 21, 2007 11:40 AM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Al is right...the time for talk IS over.
As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.

by santoswoodenlegs on Sep 21, 2007 11:40 AM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

re: Al is right...the time for talk IS over.
Ah, the first pic of the day. How sweet it is! By the way, is that Jason Kendall on that poster?
Hello, Soto!

by dat cubfan daver on Sep 21, 2007 11:47 AM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

You've never seen Megaforce??
That's Barry Bostwick aka "Ace Hunter".
As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.

by santoswoodenlegs on Sep 21, 2007 11:53 AM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

So far as I can discern...
...nobody saw Megaforce.
FREE CARMEN PIGNATIELLO!

by cwyers on Sep 21, 2007 11:57 AM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

i have a feeling that monroe is going
yard today. book it.
"If you play more than two chords, you're showing off."--Woody Guthrie

by buckmulligan on Sep 21, 2007 11:41 AM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

What do you think?
IF Angel Pagan was 100%, would Hendry have picked up Monroe?

Would Pagan be a better choice than Monroe as a switch hitter?

He has more HR's now than Monroe, I think...

It is SEPTEMBER, and we're STILL IN IT! YES!

by TheEman on Sep 21, 2007 11:43 AM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Dunno
I keep on hearing how Monroe is a veteran presence with experience in hitting clutch HRs in the World Series.  So maybe Hendry would have.

I myself might prefer Pagan.  If Monroe had had a better start with the Cubbies, I would have preferred him.  Maybe he will break out today!

by zevkalman on Sep 21, 2007 11:50 AM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

actually Pagan's weakness is his RHB
for some reason he hits with more power and average from the left side. Monroe will help this team this week and in the playoffs.
Club stats since June'07; 58-44, against LHP starters; 11-13, and 21-10 in one run games.

by Ivy Walls on Sep 21, 2007 12:33 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Jason Marquis
Tonight begins Yom Kippur - Marquis will not pitch past 4pm is what he told Lou. Hopefully the game will go to Marmom, Howry and Demp by then.
Aug 15 - Ted Lilly walked by the lineup card and said to nobody in particular "I can't believe I'm batting 9th again".

by mweil on Sep 21, 2007 12:04 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Yup. That's what I heard too.
;0
There are 3 things in my life which I really love: God, family, and baseball. The only problem - once baseball season starts, I change the order around a bit.

by cubsfan4life on Sep 21, 2007 12:23 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

As an "MoT"
(Member of the Tribe), here are the "rules:" Yom Kippur begins at sundown.  According to weather.com, sunset tonight is at 650pm.  I think Marquis can be out of there at 500pm and still be at temple or home in plenty of time.  

I don't get the 4pm stuff.  He will be fine.

Go Jason...make us all proud!  GO CUBS!!

Prince Fielder...he is neither.

by LAcarl519 on Sep 21, 2007 12:24 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

RE: Sources
I have sources within the Cubs organization that indicated the 4pm time - which will allow him time, etc. to do his thing. I am not saying it can't be done quicker - I am just saying what my sources have told me.

The upside is the guy with the Pink Hat and Green shirt sitting behind home plate is a member too - so maybe we will not see him tomorrow.

I too am a MoT.

Aug 15 - Ted Lilly walked by the lineup card and said to nobody in particular "I can't believe I'm batting 9th again".

by mweil on Sep 21, 2007 12:31 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

One more thought
If Lou did not pitch Z and Lilly on short rest - Marquis would have been scheduled tomorrow.
Aug 15 - Ted Lilly walked by the lineup card and said to nobody in particular "I can't believe I'm batting 9th again".

by mweil on Sep 21, 2007 12:33 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Who knew
Lou was so sensitive to the Jewish diaspora?

by SouthsideCub on Sep 21, 2007 12:44 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

attention to details and planning
things tend to take care themselves when one plans and is attentive to details...like Soto's 1.300 OPS
Club stats since June'07; 58-44, against LHP starters; 11-13, and 21-10 in one run games.

by Ivy Walls on Sep 21, 2007 1:00 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

uh...
I thought he told Lou he was ok to pitch, period.

by drewishdrewid on Sep 21, 2007 12:14 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

No link = Not true
Yom Kippur begins at SUNSET, which will be at least two hours after a nine-inning game.

Plus, we're talking about Jason Marquis. His day will likely be done by 3 p.m. or so.

by lancaster99 on Sep 21, 2007 12:20 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Here's a link
http://www.oregonbigfoot.com/

Its on the internet so it must be true.

I survived VWR 2007

by akcubfan on Sep 21, 2007 12:39 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

re: Here's a link
That bigfoot site is pretty amusing. Incidentally, I hear bigfoot hits for power but doesn't run the bases very well. He's kinda like Adam Dunn.
Hello, Soto!

by dat cubfan daver on Sep 21, 2007 12:48 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

espn story on...
...new ownership.

http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=3029964

"If you'da been thinkin you wouldn't 'a thought that." ~~ "Squints" Palledorous

by rm463 on Sep 21, 2007 12:32 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Oh, this is cold...
"People always come up and ask me if the Cubs are going to win in their lifetime," former Cubs pitcher and broadcaster Steve Stone said. "And I always give them the same answer: 'How long are you planning on living?'"

by MN exile on Sep 21, 2007 12:41 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Stoney proclaims to love the Cubs
But what I think he REALLY loves is making snarky comments about the Cubs.

by SouthsideCub on Sep 21, 2007 12:45 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Oh come on folks!!
Do you really think that his comments were unfounded?? Please!! Everyone and their great-great-great grandmother knows that 1) he said it with a sense of humor and 2) it's completely true (given the current ownership on the way out).
Missing Da Cubbies from NYC!

by dacubsfan76 on Sep 21, 2007 12:48 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

too odds set to crossover sometime
The odds that the Cubs will win the World Series will happen as 0 for 99 is an aberration, yet the odds it will happen soon is low since the cubs are 0 for 99.

Which odds will the Cubs organization break. My feeling is that there are reasonable explanations. Between 1906 and 1945 the Cubs were the top NL team in the World Series, 06-07-08, 10, 18, 29, 32, 38 and 45 (9 times one winner). Then the game changed after the war.

First it was money and intergretion where the NY teams had the advantage. Then the draft and expansion. Cubs organization was piss poor through the 50's and rebounded with a good draft and minor league system in the 60s. They fell short in 69 and 71. Then the organization was soft again as FA began to change the game. In the 80s things started turning around when Green came and demanded a new attitude, Then again there was a snakebite in the playoffs and the Cubs were out for 10 years. Now in this decade the urgency returned with the talent.

My thread is that the Cubs need to develop talent in the system and spend money as a top market team.

Club stats since June'07; 58-44, against LHP starters; 11-13, and 21-10 in one run games.

by Ivy Walls on Sep 21, 2007 1:30 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Quote
"Few franchises can claim they played their first game in 1870, six years before Custer's Last Stand."

Neither can the Cubs.  The National Association team started in 1871, and they weren't the Cubs.  They were a completely different team with the same name (White Stockings).

The Cubs only date back to 1876, the year of Custer's Last Stand.

The artist formerly known as JoshinLA

by Josh77 on Sep 21, 2007 2:22 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Hey hey!!!
Can anyone think of a better think than September afternoon baseball that matters in Chicago?  Greatest city in the world for this kind of thing.  Here's hoping they play smart down the stretch and do those little things like taking the extra base when it's there or moving guys with bunts/sac flies to build up the confidence and motor into the playoffs.  GO CUBS!

by BigJimSlade on Sep 21, 2007 1:14 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Ron has a cold?
how many games has he missed?

by drewishdrewid on Sep 21, 2007 1:22 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

A little off topic...
didn't we just see this same umpiring crew (with McClelland) LAST weekend in St Louis?  

At least - THANK GAWD - we don't catch Cuzzi calling the plate - he is TERRIBLE

(Sorry, I'm a high school umpire and I notice these things)

Proudly waving the Cubbie Blue in the middle of redbird inbreds!

by Tater01 on Sep 21, 2007 1:23 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Awwww, no Ron Santo today...
...still battling a cold.
Hello, Soto!

by dat cubfan daver on Sep 21, 2007 1:23 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Get well soon Ron !!
God knows it's killing him to miss a game like this

by Basman on Sep 21, 2007 1:24 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

based loaded already
Ron must be having a coronary at home.

by drewishdrewid on Sep 21, 2007 1:30 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I hope he gets settled down soon
We can't afford to let the Bucs get ahead of us here... even tho we've been hitting better vs. LHP lately, we still have a challenge ahead of us!!
Missing Da Cubbies from NYC!

by dacubsfan76 on Sep 21, 2007 1:27 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Don't worry...
...Marquis is just setting up the triple play.
Hello, Soto!

by dat cubfan daver on Sep 21, 2007 1:26 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

right now
I'll take a DP!
Missing Da Cubbies from NYC!

by dacubsfan76 on Sep 21, 2007 1:28 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

well....
I'd LIKE a DP!!! ANYTHING to get out of this inning unscathed!!!
Missing Da Cubbies from NYC!

by dacubsfan76 on Sep 21, 2007 1:30 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Don't get bent out of shape...
but Marquis will be done WELL before 4pm is he can't spot his pitches.
As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.

by santoswoodenlegs on Sep 21, 2007 1:27 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

The Secret's out
The Cubs can't stop ANYONE from stealing bases.  Ron  Santo could steal second on a Segway.
------ TheRiot Squad ------

by RightFieldSucks on Sep 21, 2007 1:30 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Heck...
he could just use me and probably beat Kendall's throws.
As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.

by santoswoodenlegs on Sep 21, 2007 1:31 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Need a GIDP and no damage
almost
Club stats since June'07; 58-44, against LHP starters; 11-13, and 21-10 in one run games.

by Ivy Walls on Sep 21, 2007 1:31 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

What is the deal...
with not being able to handle this Pirate team?
As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.

by santoswoodenlegs on Sep 21, 2007 1:30 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

All year the Cubs have sucked
as much as the team they play.

Good for ratings but bad baseball.

by whatiswrongwithlarussa on Sep 21, 2007 1:33 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Why did they intentally walk Adam LaSuck
when the count was 0-1?

by whatiswrongwithlarussa on Sep 21, 2007 1:31 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Wowsers
Not a good start here Jason.  Let's not have something to atone today.

by BigJimSlade on Sep 21, 2007 1:31 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

hey, deja vu
runs in the first... not ours...

by drewishdrewid on Sep 21, 2007 1:32 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

at least it's only ONE run!!
Missing Da Cubbies from NYC!

by dacubsfan76 on Sep 21, 2007 1:33 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Get outta this with one run...
...and we'll call it even. (Uh, so to speak.)
Hello, Soto!

by dat cubfan daver on Sep 21, 2007 1:32 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I have a theory...
...Marquis can not pitch well in warm weather. Stay tuned.
You can't quiet THE RIOT (riotshirts.com)

by TipsyMcStagger on Sep 21, 2007 1:32 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

hhmm.....
THIS I gotta hear!
Missing Da Cubbies from NYC!

by dacubsfan76 on Sep 21, 2007 1:33 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Lou & Bob touched on this a bit
during his last start. His pitches have been more "crisp" in colder temperatures and they kind of flatten out in the heat.
There are 3 things in my life which I really love: God, family, and baseball. The only problem - once baseball season starts, I change the order around a bit.

by cubsfan4life on Sep 21, 2007 1:35 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

OH JEEBUS!
Geez Murton, if you woulda dropped that I woulda came for your family.  It looked like he was jogging out there.  Barely caught.
------ TheRiot Squad ------

by RightFieldSucks on Sep 21, 2007 1:33 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Whew
Let's get that run back boys
You can't quiet THE RIOT (riotshirts.com)

by TipsyMcStagger on Sep 21, 2007 1:33 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Lead off homer?
Let's see it, right now.

by Gucci on Sep 21, 2007 1:33 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Good call!

by whatiswrongwithlarussa on Sep 21, 2007 1:35 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

WHOA!!!!!
Way to call it!!!  Care to call the next one? :)
Missing Da Cubbies from NYC!

by dacubsfan76 on Sep 21, 2007 1:35 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Gucci
Nice call- - now call for it the next time Soriano is up
Aug 15 - Ted Lilly walked by the lineup card and said to nobody in particular "I can't believe I'm batting 9th again".

by mweil on Sep 21, 2007 1:37 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Even a blind squirrel...
can "predict" homeruns every once in a blue moon!

by Gucci on Sep 21, 2007 1:40 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

WOW Murton almost misplayed that one
That is why defense is so important, Murton made the catch but if not two more runs score and a man on 2nd or 3rd.

In the end missed opportunity for the Pirates, but they showed they are going to run on the Cubs at the top of the order.

Club stats since June'07; 58-44, against LHP starters; 11-13, and 21-10 in one run games.

by Ivy Walls on Sep 21, 2007 1:34 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

OK I'll take it ....
I gotta go for an interview .... hold the fort down & get some runs Cubbies !!

Wish me luck :)

by Basman on Sep 21, 2007 1:34 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

good luck bas
smile and be confident.  

homer Fonsi!!!

big leaguers all look down on us because of all that goat curse fuss maybe we should end that silly curse today. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2KMuC-JUlEY

by joeschmitt on Sep 21, 2007 1:35 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

hot damn!
n/t
In the middle of difficulty, lies opportunity - Einstein

by cubbieblue86 on Sep 21, 2007 1:35 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

MMMKay...offense...
time to spring into ACTION!

As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.

by santoswoodenlegs on Sep 21, 2007 1:35 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Indeed
Pirates players must be thinking "jesus, it took us 25 pitches to get one run."

by SouthsideCub on Sep 21, 2007 1:36 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I wish Murton could catch a ball
without my heart skipping a few beats.  Hey, Sori, I love you!

by zevkalman on Sep 21, 2007 1:35 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

YAY Soriano!!!!
Shawn Johnson, Des Moines, IA, worlds greatest gymnast. 2007 All Around World Champ. GO SHAWN!!!!

by sue369 on Sep 21, 2007 1:36 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

just like that
8th this month
Club stats since June'07; 58-44, against LHP starters; 11-13, and 21-10 in one run games.

by Ivy Walls on Sep 21, 2007 1:36 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Hahaha
Oh man.  I'm in a public computer lab at school and I just let out a big shout and now everyone's looking at me.  Go Fonzie!
------ TheRiot Squad ------

by RightFieldSucks on Sep 21, 2007 1:36 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

ALF!
You can't quiet THE RIOT (riotshirts.com)

by TipsyMcStagger on Sep 21, 2007 1:36 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Soriano
Why in the world would anyone give him a 1st pitch fastball to hit?!?!?!
big leaguers all look down on us because of all that goat curse fuss maybe we should end that silly curse today. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2KMuC-JUlEY

by joeschmitt on Sep 21, 2007 1:36 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

It's like punting to Devin Hester
Some idiot is always going to do it, but i agree with you, why!?

by Orval Overall on Sep 21, 2007 1:37 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

it is exactly like that!
chiefs and pirates, thank you!
big leaguers all look down on us because of all that goat curse fuss maybe we should end that silly curse today. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2KMuC-JUlEY

by joeschmitt on Sep 21, 2007 1:37 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

yeah,
somehow the Chiefs just didn't get it last weekend.  Sort of like the Colts in the superbowl.  Someday they may learn, but I hope not.
In the middle of difficulty, lies opportunity - Einstein

by cubbieblue86 on Sep 21, 2007 1:38 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I seriously think that Soriano is the...
...least-scouted All-Star in the majors. Teams keep pitching him fastballs on the first pitch and running on balls hit to him in the outfield. It baffles.
FREE CARMEN PIGNATIELLO!

by cwyers on Sep 21, 2007 1:38 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Who cares, let's just hope teams continue
to do that along with sending runners on him and we'll be in good shape.
There are 3 things in my life which I really love: God, family, and baseball. The only problem - once baseball season starts, I change the order around a bit.

by cubsfan4life on Sep 21, 2007 1:38 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

He's easily
on pace to break the record for leadoff homers in a career if he hits leadoff for a few more years like this.
In the middle of difficulty, lies opportunity - Einstein

by cubbieblue86 on Sep 21, 2007 1:36 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

First pitch
Now that is what you do with a first pitch strike.

by californiachicagoan on Sep 21, 2007 1:37 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Fonzie is locked in!
Say what you will about him batting leadoff... I love it when we score a run after 1 batter.  

by eamuscatuli1881 on Sep 21, 2007 1:37 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

1 batter?
1 pitch!
In the middle of difficulty, lies opportunity - Einstein

by cubbieblue86 on Sep 21, 2007 1:37 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

AMEN!!
This is why he's leadoff!!
Missing Da Cubbies from NYC!

by dacubsfan76 on Sep 21, 2007 1:38 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

It's a great way
to kill the morale of the other club.  While the power would be nice later, it is a good punch to the nuts after they get some runs in the first.
In the middle of difficulty, lies opportunity - Einstein

by cubbieblue86 on Sep 21, 2007 1:39 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Or just...
bungee jump off the left one.
As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.

by santoswoodenlegs on Sep 21, 2007 1:40 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

oh poor ken griffey
n/t
In the middle of difficulty, lies opportunity - Einstein

by cubbieblue86 on Sep 21, 2007 1:43 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

OH FONZIE!!!
You magnificent bastard!!!

by BigJimSlade on Sep 21, 2007 1:37 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Pirates Catcher
Pirates Catcher kinda looks like Master Chief with that tinted green visor.  Oh man, I've got Halo on the brain.
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by RightFieldSucks on Sep 21, 2007 1:38 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

santo
sorry if i missed a post above, but where's ronnie?  it's pat and dave in the radio booth.
big leaguers all look down on us because of all that goat curse fuss maybe we should end that silly curse today. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2KMuC-JUlEY

by joeschmitt on Sep 21, 2007 1:39 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Aw man...
...I left my desk to nuke my lunch and I missed Soriano's lead-off home run.

DLEE singles!!!

Hello, Soto!

by dat cubfan daver on Sep 21, 2007 1:39 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

D Lee with a hit.
Shawn Johnson, Des Moines, IA, worlds greatest gymnast. 2007 All Around World Champ. GO SHAWN!!!!

by sue369 on Sep 21, 2007 1:39 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Anyone else here..
get a chubby when Lee sprays those lasers to right?
As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.

by santoswoodenlegs on Sep 21, 2007 1:40 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

hot damn!
again! Ramirez baby!  Kendall st!
In the middle of difficulty, lies opportunity - Einstein

by cubbieblue86 on Sep 21, 2007 1:41 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

woops
that wasn't supposed to be a reply
In the middle of difficulty, lies opportunity - Einstein

by cubbieblue86 on Sep 21, 2007 1:41 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

re: Anyone else here..
Not sure I'd put it in those terms exactly, but I do find DLee's successful at-bats stimulating.
Hello, Soto!

by dat cubfan daver on Sep 21, 2007 1:41 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

yah!
so much for our struggling v. LHP!! we're off to a GOOOOOOD offensive start!!!   now if marquis can just hold down the fort and settle down!! i know he's got yom kippur on the mind, but i've got a division championship on mine!!
Missing Da Cubbies from NYC!

by dacubsfan76 on Sep 21, 2007 1:41 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

YES!!!!! ALL RIGHT!
Take THAT, Left-handed pitchers!!!!

by drewishdrewid on Sep 21, 2007 1:41 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Holy shit!!!!
Three run homer by Ramirez!!!!  4-1
Shawn Johnson, Des Moines, IA, worlds greatest gymnast. 2007 All Around World Champ. GO SHAWN!!!!

by sue369 on Sep 21, 2007 1:41 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Sue
I didn't think you had that kind of language in you!

by SouthsideCub on Sep 21, 2007 1:42 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Hell
didya really think she'd contain her excitement like that?? ;)
Missing Da Cubbies from NYC!

by dacubsfan76 on Sep 21, 2007 1:43 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Yeah well
I'm not angel. :)
Shawn Johnson, Des Moines, IA, worlds greatest gymnast. 2007 All Around World Champ. GO SHAWN!!!!

by sue369 on Sep 21, 2007 1:44 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

should be
not an angel.
Shawn Johnson, Des Moines, IA, worlds greatest gymnast. 2007 All Around World Champ. GO SHAWN!!!!

by sue369 on Sep 21, 2007 1:52 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

YEAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
ARAM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Hello, Soto!

by dat cubfan daver on Sep 21, 2007 1:41 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Maholm can not be healthy
He got rocked in his last start for 11 runs in 3 IP against the Astros.  I can't see Maholm having that kind of leash again.  

This is awesome.

by IllinoisCubs on Sep 21, 2007 1:41 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

4-1
they are jacked
Club stats since June'07; 58-44, against LHP starters; 11-13, and 21-10 in one run games.

by Ivy Walls on Sep 21, 2007 1:41 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I don't think
I've seen one go down Kendall St. since the Sosa days.
In the middle of difficulty, lies opportunity - Einstein

by cubbieblue86 on Sep 21, 2007 1:41 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Totally Awesome!
Wish i was at Wrigley, right now!
Damn, didn't work this time.  I'm still at work!

by Gucci on Sep 21, 2007 1:42 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Niiiiiiiice
If we keep this up, Marquis in trouble...we will be batting until 4pm!!!
You can't quiet THE RIOT (riotshirts.com)

by TipsyMcStagger on Sep 21, 2007 1:42 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Pat Hughes reporting....
...that ball appeared to land in one of the trees across Waveland. Maybe Ballhawk can fill us in on the details later today or tomorrow.
Hello, Soto!

by dat cubfan daver on Sep 21, 2007 1:42 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Ya beat me...
First thing I thought of...Kingman-esque.
It just needed to hit that porch 3 doors down Kennmore.

by San Diego Smooth Jazz Man on Sep 21, 2007 1:56 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

HOLY LIVING F*CK
That ball landed in the trees across waveland ave.  I can't remember ever seeing a ball do that before.
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by RightFieldSucks on Sep 21, 2007 1:43 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

HAHA
Izturis, still sucking after all these years.
In the middle of difficulty, lies opportunity - Einstein

by cubbieblue86 on Sep 21, 2007 1:43 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Welcome back, Cesar!
Prince Fielder...he is neither.

by LAcarl519 on Sep 21, 2007 1:43 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

LOL
No kidding.
Shawn Johnson, Des Moines, IA, worlds greatest gymnast. 2007 All Around World Champ. GO SHAWN!!!!

by sue369 on Sep 21, 2007 1:45 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

!Ceasar!
Oh how we have missed thee
I survived VWR 2007

by akcubfan on Sep 21, 2007 1:44 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Shiver me timbers!!
It's National Pitch Like a Pirate Day!!
Cubs fans are 90% scar tissue and 100% insane

by Bridge2Far on Sep 21, 2007 1:44 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Yes yes yes!!! Holy Crap YESSSS!
I want to see the Cubs EAT this Pirate's team SOULS!!!!

As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.

by santoswoodenlegs on Sep 21, 2007 1:44 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Tears in his eyes...
I bet Cesar was tearing up, wishing he was still a Cub.

by Gucci on Sep 21, 2007 1:44 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

re: Tears in his eyes...
I bet Cesar was crying because he couldn't give ARam one of his special "thank yous" after hitting that home run.
Hello, Soto!

by dat cubfan daver on Sep 21, 2007 1:46 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

watch out,
If he makes it to third base today I bet he'll try.
In the middle of difficulty, lies opportunity - Einstein

by cubbieblue86 on Sep 21, 2007 1:47 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

LMFAO!!!!
Ceasar "the taint massager" Izturis
You can't quiet THE RIOT (riotshirts.com)

by TipsyMcStagger on Sep 21, 2007 1:47 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

LOL!
Shawn Johnson, Des Moines, IA, worlds greatest gymnast. 2007 All Around World Champ. GO SHAWN!!!!

by sue369 on Sep 21, 2007 1:47 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Yahoo!
Ever get the feeling that the Pirates are just rolling over for us?

by DaleCoop14 on Sep 21, 2007 1:45 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Roll, baby, Roll!
A welcome mat is more than okay with me!

by Gucci on Sep 21, 2007 1:45 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

not with
the series we last had with them!

by drewishdrewid on Sep 21, 2007 1:47 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I hope Izzy
gets a standing O when he comes to plate for that last play.
In the middle of difficulty, lies opportunity - Einstein

by cubbieblue86 on Sep 21, 2007 1:45 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

did we win that game in houston
where fonzy and a-ram both hit first inning homers for 4 runs?

by dogcatratcheese on Sep 21, 2007 1:46 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

ssshhhhh
don't jinx them!!
Missing Da Cubbies from NYC!

by dacubsfan76 on Sep 21, 2007 1:47 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

And....
It's Kenmore Ave, not Kendall St.
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by RightFieldSucks on Sep 21, 2007 1:47 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Ah yes,
Ken something.  As I said, it's been awhile.  Thanks
In the middle of difficulty, lies opportunity - Einstein

by cubbieblue86 on Sep 21, 2007 1:48 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

re: And....
Yeah, Kendall hasn't been that good this season.
Hello, Soto!

by dat cubfan daver on Sep 21, 2007 1:48 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Nice
Marquis will bat before he pitches

Gotta love that

by El Borto on Sep 21, 2007 1:48 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

nevermind
I'm a dumbass and thought this was the top of the 1st

by El Borto on Sep 21, 2007 1:49 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

It's ok
I thought maybe you just came in late.
Shawn Johnson, Des Moines, IA, worlds greatest gymnast. 2007 All Around World Champ. GO SHAWN!!!!

by sue369 on Sep 21, 2007 1:51 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

This is the bottom
of the first. He's already pitched.
Shawn Johnson, Des Moines, IA, worlds greatest gymnast. 2007 All Around World Champ. GO SHAWN!!!!

by sue369 on Sep 21, 2007 1:50 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Would love for Marquis to go deep here.
You can't quiet THE RIOT (riotshirts.com)

by TipsyMcStagger on Sep 21, 2007 1:48 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

If I remember correctly...
Jim Edmonds used to say that all the time.
As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.

by santoswoodenlegs on Sep 21, 2007 1:50 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Luckily he's got Yadier for that now.
You can't quiet THE RIOT (riotshirts.com)

by TipsyMcStagger on Sep 21, 2007 1:52 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I'll settle...
for going deep in the game: 7+ innings of winning baseball.

by Gucci on Sep 21, 2007 1:50 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

soul patch...
... on Theriot.  I do not like it.

by chuccck on Sep 21, 2007 1:49 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I don't
mind it.
Shawn Johnson, Des Moines, IA, worlds greatest gymnast. 2007 All Around World Champ. GO SHAWN!!!!

by sue369 on Sep 21, 2007 1:53 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Anyone else notice the TV sound is off?
There seems to be a split sexcond delay near home plate. Whenever a ball is hit or it hits the glove, the sound comes a split second later.
Santo Forever!

by BeerCub on Sep 21, 2007 1:49 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

CMON WALK HIM!
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by RightFieldSucks on Sep 21, 2007 1:49 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Love
Love the way this game's starting for us

by vegascubsfan on Sep 21, 2007 1:50 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Okay I gotta go to class....
Game may be over at 5 when I get out (eastern)
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by RightFieldSucks on Sep 21, 2007 1:51 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

well,
I have a psych exam in less than an hour that I haven't started studying for.  I wish classes were only during the offseason.
In the middle of difficulty, lies opportunity - Einstein

by cubbieblue86 on Sep 21, 2007 1:51 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

That was super-fun!!!
Let's do again in the bottom of the 2nd!
Cubs fans are 90% scar tissue and 100% insane

by Bridge2Far on Sep 21, 2007 1:51 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Can I just say...
WHEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Missing Da Cubbies from NYC!

by dacubsfan76 on Sep 21, 2007 1:54 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

how sweet would it be
for soriano to jack the first pitch he sees next inning to
The Astros just asked me to start their next game

by jds2 on Sep 21, 2007 1:53 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Watch out A-Ram!
Izturis is hitting the ball just to try to get to 3rd right after you hit the HR?!

by IllinoisCubs on Sep 21, 2007 1:55 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Monroe almost
had that. Darn it.
Shawn Johnson, Des Moines, IA, worlds greatest gymnast. 2007 All Around World Champ. GO SHAWN!!!!

by sue369 on Sep 21, 2007 1:55 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I don't understand the reasoning...
behind Monroe playing CF instead of Pie. The LHP vs LHB thing is a wash in this situation because neither one is going to give you any offense anyway, but Pie would have caught that ball.
As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.

by santoswoodenlegs on Sep 21, 2007 1:58 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Reasoning
The reasoning is that Monroe is a MUCH MUCH better hitter vs lefties than Pie this year.  Pie has shown no sign he has adapted to big league pitching yet.

by californiachicagoan on Sep 21, 2007 2:10 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Monroe is terrible vs anyone throwing a baseball.
It doesn't matter which arm they use.
As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.

by santoswoodenlegs on Sep 21, 2007 2:11 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Not defensively...
Pie's speed, glove, and arm are far more valuable to this team right now than whatever your expecting out of Monroe's bat.

P.S. I hope your not expecting much.

As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.

by santoswoodenlegs on Sep 21, 2007 2:16 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Um no.
Pie's bat is too much of a negative for any amount of defense to overcome.  That is why Lou has him in the late inning defensive sub role, and rightly so.

by californiachicagoan on Sep 21, 2007 2:22 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs