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Double Plays? Doubles! Toil? No Trouble!, and Open Thread: Cubs vs. Dodgers, Thursday 9/6, 1:20 CT

Mark DeRosa bounced into a double play in the first inning -- the team's ninth DP of the series -- and I said to our little band in the LF corner, "Didn't we see this game last night?"

Turned out we hadn't, as the Cubs smacked out five doubles, drew six walks, had a HR from Aramis Ramirez (his 20th -- incidentally, the last time the Cubs were led in HR by someone who hit fewer than 30, in a non-strike season, was in 1992, when Ryne Sandberg led the club with 26), a solid pitching performance by Ted Lilly, and beat the Dodgers 8-2, holding on to their tenuous half-game lead in the NL Central over the Brewers, and extending their lead over the third-place Cardinals to two games after St. Louis lost to Pittsburgh, also 8-2. (Thanks, Pirates, for winning two of the first three. Go get 'em today, and then please leave your winning shoes in St. Louis.)

All of this was after a nasty little rainstorm hit the area around Wrigley Field, including drenching rain with thunder and lightning, just as the ballpark gates were opening at 5:05. It blew through in about thirty minutes and had the ground crew scrambling to put the tarp on; the Cubs were already in the middle of batting practice. (Bad news: there's a 70% chance of rain this afternoon.)

Ted Lilly didn't have his best stuff, and the Dodgers kept pecking away, getting one hit in each of the first four innings. Each time the Cubs got out of it, in the third with a wacky play when a ball bounced off Aramis Ramirez, right into the glove of Ronny Cedeno at shortstop. In the second inning Shea Hillenbrand, who has about as much business trying to steal second base as I do, was caught stealing, and in the third, he was called out on strikes. (Thanks, Grady, for sitting Andy LaRoche last night!)

The Cubs nursed their lead into the seventh, when pinch-hitter Olmedo "No-Parking" Saenz doubled in Mike Lieberthal, who had drawn a two-out walk (don't you hate those?) off Lilly. Carlos Marmol didn't seem to have his best stuff either last night, but recovered to get Rafael Furcal to pop up to end that inning. Saenz' double went over the head of Felix Pie, who slipped and fell on the wet grass in center field.

On it went into the 8th, the Cubs hanging on to that 4-2 lead, with Ryan Dempster warming up for a save opportunity.

And then the Cubs exploded and made a no-brainer out of it, a no-brainer I presume they all badly wanted and needed. The bottom of the 8th must have gone on for about 30 minutes -- I didn't time it, but it felt even longer -- and included two walks, two doubles, three singles, a hit batter, a ball thrown by Jeff Kent into about the third row behind the first base dugout, and two mid-inning pitching changes.

This gave some of the fans sitting a little closer to Dodgers LF Andre Ethier time to harass him further. Either they misread the name on his shirt or were trying to give him digs deliberately, because they were calling him "ETHER" and chanting his name in the sarcastic sing-songy way that you've probably heard many times ("EEEE-ther! "EEEE-ther!") To his credit, Ethier was a good sport about it -- maybe a bit more, as at one point I spotted him covering his face with his glove so that no one would see him laughing.

Cub fans are laughing this morning. Nice win. Keep up the good work today. The only NL games today are Cubs/Dodgers and Pirates/Cardinals, both afternoon games, so the Cubs have a chance to pick up a game on St. Louis again.

Sat with the San Diego Smooth Jazz Man again, and also brfry81, someone who says he reads BCB every day but doesn't post much, and his brother. Nice to meet you guys, and also had a brief conversation with BCB reader NO100, who stopped by in the later innings to say hi.

Onward. Hold the rain off till about 4:00, please.

 Today's Starting Pitchers
Jason Marquis
 J. Marquis
Cubs
vs. Derek Lowe
 D. Lowe
Dodgers
11-8 W-L 11-12
4.20 ERA 3.78
93 SO 125
68 BB 48
21 HR 17
vs. LA -- vs. Cubs
Jason Marquis stepped up and threw a fine game in his last start, last Saturday. Even last year, when he was probably the worst regular starter in the NL, he threw well against the Dodgers (1-0, 1.13 in two starts in 2006, and 2-1, 2.20 lifetime in 7 games, six starts). He hasn't faced them since then. Rafael Furcal has hit him well (7-for-13, 1 HR); so has Jeff Kent (8-for-19, three doubles).

Derek Lowe is 1-1, 3.58 vs. the Cubs in his career. The one win was this one-hit shutout on August 31, 2005. Fortunately, of the Cubs position players who played that day, only Derrek Lee, Matt Murton and Ronny Cedeno are still on the team, and Lee is 9-for-20 with a double and a HR lifetime off Lowe.

Today's game is cable-only in LA and Chicago, and also at today's Mediacenter link.

MLB.com Gameday (2007 version)

MLB.com Gameday (2006 version)

MLB.com Gameday for the Pirates/Cardinals game (1:10 CT start)

Discuss amongst yourselves.

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Lets go out and get them again!
Hopefully that 8th inning will provide some spark for todays game!

by GoCubbies34 on Sep 6, 2007 8:44 AM CDT   0 recs

My 3 wishes for today
  1. This game gets played.
  2. Lou FINALLY drops Soriano to 3rd or 5th
  3. W baby W!!!

by EliasTirade on Sep 6, 2007 8:54 AM CDT   0 recs

Revamp the batting order!!
Lee needs to drop to 5th or 6th.  Fonzie hitting 3rd makes sense, with Theriot taking over the leadoff spot.  I'd go as follows:

Theriot
DeRosa
Soriano
Aramas
Lee
Ward
Kendall/Soto
Monroe (cf)
Pitcher

Cubs Win!! Cubs Win!

by Ihatethecards on Sep 6, 2007 9:05 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Nuts!
Maybe in some fantasy league or computer game but Lee still leads the Cubs in runs created.

Actually moving DeRosa to the two hole was a good option yesterday and resting Theriot was good. I don't see Piniella changing the lineup this time of year significantly except with Theriot or the platoon system in the OF.

More importantly was the hitting and catching of Soto.

Milw-09-24-98--Brown in for defense--bases loaded--flyball--HE DROPPED THE BALL!!!NO NO NO, cubs lose 8-7

by Ivy Walls on Sep 6, 2007 9:24 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

All I can say is
Thank God you're not managing.

Anyone that still wants Monroe in center after last night must have been watching Lifetime instead of the game. An outfield of Soriano-Monroe-Ward will give up a run a game, at least.

by lancaster99 on Sep 6, 2007 9:28 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Yes his defensive play was scary
But it was his first game in center @ Wrigley, and although he did allow runners on base he didn't give up a run.  So that was a relief.  But that first play he allowed when he was backed up against the ivy was pathetic.

by GoCubbies34 on Sep 6, 2007 9:37 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

I know
But Monroe still beats Jacque Jones out there!
Cubs Win!! Cubs Win!

by Ihatethecards on Sep 6, 2007 10:38 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Jones was pretty darn good out there
And to compare Monroe is just laughable.

But PLEASE!!!! NO MORE WARD IN RF. PLEASE. For the love of god. PLEASE. That fata55 can't get to anything out there.

1-RUN GAMES = 19-20 | EXTRA INNINGS = 2-7 | HOME = 38-35 | updated on 9/6

by SackMan on Sep 6, 2007 10:48 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Jones has
done a fine job in CF. He has had some fantastic catches the last week or two.
I love this team!!!

by sue369 on Sep 6, 2007 10:51 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

GEES
Our second half MVP has a couple bad games and suddenly you want to axe him.  Typical BCC post.

by BigZ 4 Cy on Sep 6, 2007 10:53 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

WHAT'S BCC?
MMMMM...Mannys corned beef and a latke

by Kinky Reggae on Sep 6, 2007 11:40 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

haha
Matt Murton career in September: .321/.401/.576, 10 jacks (165 ab). Make sure Matt the Bat gets in the lineup this month Lou!

by kylejo on Sep 6, 2007 12:10 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

yea
id put jones in center over monroe anyday.
put soriano in the 5-hole please!!!!

by tbizzle83 on Sep 6, 2007 11:04 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

For someone that hates the cards
You're trying to help them win the division.

Here is the order of preferred Center Fielders:

  1. Jones - a revelation defensively, and righting his ship offensively.
  2. Pie - simply a joy to watch play the field
  3. Murton - Can't be worse than Monroe
  4. Soriano - Can't be worse than Murton
  5. Steve Bartman - We know he can knock balls back into the field of play.
  6. Ron Santo.
  7. Len Kasper
  8. Craig Monroe

by lancaster99 on Sep 6, 2007 11:07 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

WHAT??
JJ was comparable to Pie out there.  He was far greater in CF than I ever expected and held his own.  Monroe (limited time or not) is in no way, better than JJ in CF.
MMMMM...Mannys corned beef and a latke

by Kinky Reggae on Sep 6, 2007 11:39 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Are you joking?
Have you watched JJ out there? I realize that it was Monroe's first time in center, but he just did not seem to get good reads on anything out there last night. JJ has done a very good job in center and has made some spectacular plays. He goes all out after everything.
There are 3 things in my life which I really love: God, family, and baseball. The only problem - once baseball season starts, I change the order around a bit.

by cubsfan4life on Sep 6, 2007 12:00 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

CF
Mark DeRosa would be a better CF than Monroe.
"I've never complained about it. I'm thankful to have a jersey." Mark DeRosa, 22 Aug 2007

by DeRoMyHero on Sep 6, 2007 12:55 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

since we were playing create-a-lineup
Theriot
Kendall
Soriano
Lee
Ramirez
Floyd
DeRosa
Jones
"Losing is my only fear"

by Unique on Sep 6, 2007 4:17 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Theriot and Derosa for Hitting Coaches
If the rest of the team had the same approach at the plate imagine how good they could be.

Got to love guys who dont try to pull every pitch.

Hit it where its pitched and where they aint

by parrotinct on Sep 6, 2007 9:01 AM CDT   0 recs

Soto
was good at the plate. I would llike to see him get some more chances before the season is over. I know that's tough with the veteran Kendall and Blanco. Two hits and a walk is a good start.
This is Harry Carray, goodbye from Wrigley Field and So Long Everybody.

by mrcubsfan on Sep 6, 2007 9:06 AM CDT   0 recs

I agree.
I'd imagine he'll catch one of the DH games in St. Louis, at the very least.
"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al on Sep 6, 2007 9:16 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Actually I think Soto might get the starts
against LH starters at least once a week. If Blanco is not really well I could see the Cubs bringing Soto on the playoff roster as well.

Regardless potentially we are seeing the next long term starter behind the plate.

Milw-09-24-98--Brown in for defense--bases loaded--flyball--HE DROPPED THE BALL!!!NO NO NO, cubs lose 8-7

by Ivy Walls on Sep 6, 2007 9:27 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Also
It was nice to see some baserunners finally thrown out by the catcher.  Those outs really helped too!

by adam316 on Sep 6, 2007 9:30 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Yo Al.

    Did Monroe look as uncomfortable in center field as he did on TV? I know he was playing too deep ( The Brant Brown center field as I like to call it) but he didn't seem to pick up the ball very well at all I thought.
"I can't be held responsible for what I personally tell my goons to do...."- C. Montgomery Burns

by yahoodi on Sep 6, 2007 9:12 AM CDT   0 recs

Yes.
He made the plays, but looked a bit awkward. It was his first game in CF this year, and obviously his first in CF ever at Wrigley Field.
"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al on Sep 6, 2007 9:17 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Monroe, so far, is a dissappointment
I know we were all hoping he'd turn things around but he's contributed next to nothing so far.

by Mapmaker on Sep 6, 2007 9:19 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

You are expecting too much
Monroe showed he has real pop in his bat as he has hit a number of hard liners (kind of like Rondell White or GlenEllyn Hill) and his play in RF has been stronger than the other RH option.

In an emergency I can see Monroe in CF but it appears he is a corner OF'er. He is adjusting and trying to contribute outside his comfort level.

Milw-09-24-98--Brown in for defense--bases loaded--flyball--HE DROPPED THE BALL!!!NO NO NO, cubs lose 8-7

by Ivy Walls on Sep 6, 2007 9:30 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

re: You are expecting too much
I agree. And I'm gonna stick up for Monroe, too. He went 1 for 4 last night with a double, a walk and a run scored. How is that "contributing next to nothing"?

I've seen him hit a lot of balls hard and draw a few walks. His defense is nothing to write home about -- and I'd defintely prefer not to see him play centerfield. But I don't have a problem with him playing right (he certainly can't do worse there than Floyd, Ward or Murton), and I'm still optimistic about Monroe being a strong bat down the stretch against left-handed pitching.

Carlos Marmol, you complete me.

by dat cubfan daver on Sep 6, 2007 9:44 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

What a relief
that 8th inning was. It was really nice to finally get to cruise into the 9th with a big lead. They really played well last night. Keep it rolling today.

by qccub on Sep 6, 2007 9:22 AM CDT   0 recs

Al
Some people in the other game thread were wanting you to scan your score card (sorry I forget what they are called).  Also, what happened with Lou last night and the confusion on the field?  I was at the bar and was a bit confused because I couldn't listen to what was happening and looked away for a minute as the game was pretty much set at the time (Although the Braves did come back to score 7 on the Phillies yesterday in the 9th)

by GoCubbies34 on Sep 6, 2007 9:23 AM CDT   0 recs

I'm working on this right now.
Give me a few minutes.
"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al on Sep 6, 2007 9:34 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Here you go.
Click here for my scorecard from last night.

Don't forget to click on the image (in Firefox) or on the bottom right corner of the image (in IE) to expand it to its full size.

"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al on Sep 6, 2007 9:39 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

re: Here you go.
Wow, great job with the scorecard, Al. I'm always impressed when someone can do that. It would be a cool "value-added feature" (corporate speak anyone?) if you could post your scorecards with every game wrap.
Carlos Marmol, you complete me.

by dat cubfan daver on Sep 6, 2007 9:59 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Very impressive...
If I was keeping a scorecard last night it probably would be more like what San Deigo Jazzman filled out.  

by Neifi Puppy on Sep 6, 2007 10:04 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

That thing is great!
I just spent ten minutes looking at that scorecard.  Nicely done!

by John Q Freejazz on Sep 6, 2007 10:13 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

THANKS AL!
Why haven't you done this before?  This is almost just as much fun as watching or reading game summaries!  I truly appreciate your hard work into this site.  

Dan

Evey Hammond: Vi Veri Veniversum Vivus Vici. V: By the power of truth, I, while living, have conquered the universe.

by dtpollitt on Sep 6, 2007 10:21 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Thanks for all the compliments!
If I have time I'll try to do this every day, since several of you have requested it. It didn't take very long to scan and upload, maybe five minutes.
"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al on Sep 6, 2007 10:24 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Awesome
I always loved doing score cards when I was on the bench in high school and such. Would have rather have been playing, but it's a way to keep in the game and understand what is going on. Truly a lost art.

by hawkeyenation on Sep 6, 2007 10:31 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Scorecards
My wife won't watch games with me at home, but she'll gladly go to the park with me if I'll help her keep score.  It is a lost art and when I coached at my previous school, the first thing I would do is teach every kid on the team how to score.
"Dad gum right this games gonna be played under protest. . . I guarantee this is gonna be one protest that's upheld." --Hawk Harrelson, 6/24/07

by RynoHoF on Sep 6, 2007 10:33 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Thanks, Al
Looks great. I can definitely pick up a few things from your scoring. Thanks again!

Let's get that W today!

"When you're eight games behind, it's like eight miles; when you're eight games in front, it's like eight inches."- Ron Santo

by BigJohnAZ on Sep 6, 2007 12:33 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Two points
Dodger starter Eric Stults went to my wife's alma mater, a small school near South Bend, IN.  It was the first time I've ever watched a game with someone I "know" in it.  I still rooted for the Cubs, but it was hard to wish any ill will on someone I had contact with who is busting his butt trying to make the big leagues.  A new experience for me, that's all.

Second, it was my first time watching Soto catch.  He seemed to do a very poor job of framing close pitches.  Not only did he fail to frame them in the strike zone, on more than one occasion he caught some close pitches with his glove moving away from the strike zone.  Does anyone know if this has been a problem with him, or was last night more a result of catching someone who he is unfamiliar with and who may not have had his best control?

by TC Cubby on Sep 6, 2007 9:23 AM CDT   0 recs

soto
sure has a gun though.
Matt Murton career in September: .321/.401/.576, 10 jacks (165 ab). Make sure Matt the Bat gets in the lineup this month Lou!

by kylejo on Sep 6, 2007 9:42 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Stults
It was the first time I've ever watched a game with someone I "know" in it.  I still rooted for the Cubs, but it was hard to wish any ill will on someone I had contact with who is busting his butt trying to make the big leagues.

Not so difficult, really.  Wish for him to tear up the entire league for his entire career and lose to the Cubs every time he faces them.  He still gets a nice overall record and we still do well.

by MN exile on Sep 6, 2007 9:42 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

sure,
but this was his biggest stage, by far.  Im happy with the outcome, he pitched adequately enough to get another start.  He is 27 years old, not a phenom, so every big league start is important.

It was just an overall reminder to me that each player out there is a human being with families and friends wishing the best for them.

by TC Cubby on Sep 6, 2007 9:53 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Soto's Framing, Catching
I've watched Soto for three years in Des Moines.  He has a fielding percentage lifetime over .990 over 600+ minor league games.  In the games I watched, he consistently threw people out.

As the PCL player of the year this year, Soto put up some amazing numbers.  If he comes close to the year he had this year in AAA ever again in the majors, he'll please Cubs fans for years to come.  26 HR, 106rbi, 31doubles, .353ba, .424obp !

What a gem we have as a prospect, Cubs Fans!!

by IowaCubs- on Sep 6, 2007 10:26 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

The only thing that scares me:
EVERYONE AT IOWA IS KNOCKING THE COVER OFF THE BALL.

Then, they get here, and can't hit a lick.

1-RUN GAMES = 19-20 | EXTRA INNINGS = 2-7 | HOME = 38-35 | updated on 9/6

by SackMan on Sep 6, 2007 10:30 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

- sigh -
Of all of our position players in the org., catcher is the worst.

IF Soto can keep his head above water for the rest of 2007, he'll get a giant head start on a full-time MLB gig next year.

I mean LOOK who we have NOW. A neck-injured Hank White, and Jason K, who is at the end of his career (let's be honest). It would be so cool if Kendall, when he retired, would work with our catchers in a coaching capacity.

So until this season, Soto has not lived up to expectations. But maybe he has figured some things out. We sure could use him.

It is SEPTEMBER, and we're STILL IN IT! YES!

by TheEman on Sep 6, 2007 10:40 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

And he's
not too bad on the eyes either. ;-)
I love this team!!!

by sue369 on Sep 6, 2007 10:55 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Oh, Sue!
I'd prefer Mark DeRosa, if it was me.

But that's just me!

It is SEPTEMBER, and we're STILL IN IT! YES!

by TheEman on Sep 6, 2007 11:11 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

I'd have to agree with you.
MMM. What a fine piece of man.
There are 3 things in my life which I really love: God, family, and baseball. The only problem - once baseball season starts, I change the order around a bit.

by cubsfan4life on Sep 6, 2007 11:27 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

But if you
guys had seen the sweet picture of him on the sports page of The Des Moines Register this past week you'd agree with me.
I love this team!!!

by sue369 on Sep 6, 2007 11:50 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Soto Can't Hit?
I've observed a lot of talent at Iowa over the years... many prospects here.  Looking at the crop that we have in Chicago now that played at Iowa, it's so cool to have seen someone like Soto in action here.  He's a special kind of catcher that isn't afraid to work the count and take a walk, or to hit to all fields.  

Hitting catchers as thin as they are in the major leagues, we should be jumping for joy at the value of Geo.  We have an excellent hitting catcher for years to come.  

I think it comes down to everyday playing time, and with that real talent shines.  Watch next year, when he gets the starting job, he'll be the everyday #6 and eventually #5 in the lineup.  

by IowaCubs- on Sep 6, 2007 1:45 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Argos
 I will alway's  rememeber this school for  that great run to the state finals in 1980(or close to that year). Sadly the state will never be able to get behind a small school the way they did Argos that year ever again.

by jimhickman on Sep 6, 2007 10:30 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Did he go to Argos?
If so, I would have played against him in HS.  I was actually referring to his college, Bethel College, in Mishawaka.

by TC Cubby on Sep 6, 2007 11:14 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

The Indiana state tournament
is a shell of its former self.

Now that Illinois is going to four classes, I fear it's going to happen here, too.

by Not Bruce Froemming on Sep 6, 2007 12:14 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Yes
 He is the pride and joy of the Dragons.

by jimhickman on Sep 6, 2007 1:04 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Stults Big Bat
From what I saw on the TV, he is a heck of a hitter at the major league level.  He had a good smooth swing with power, but he wasn't trying to put it out of the stadium like another mad-bull pitcher we know.  Stults would do well to stay in the NL, where he might find some managers using him as a pinch-hitter.  With the expanded roster it would not be this month, but it could be next year.
Pie, Fontenot, Theriot and Soto up the middle ... yippie oh, oh, oh!

by SpudV on Sep 6, 2007 10:34 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Soto
I like him.  Good power bat.  Also, I thought he threw well.  Easy out on HIllebrand but the throw was hard and crisp.

Either way.....his has some pop it appears.

Hey.....Cubs win!!!

by Hammer on Sep 6, 2007 9:38 AM CDT   0 recs

Soto had a great % in throwing out base stealers
down in AAA. I believe it was somewhere between %30-%35. Way above average.

A helluva lot better than Kendall's 1 for 37 (or whatever he is).

1-RUN GAMES = 19-20 | EXTRA INNINGS = 2-7 | HOME = 38-35 | updated on 9/6

by SackMan on Sep 6, 2007 10:28 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Sticking to their pattern...
Back in July Cubs lost bad to to StL (11-1) and then lost the next game to Cincinnati (5-4) before winning the next two on the road in Ohio.
In August Cubs lost bad to Philadelphia, (10-6) and then lost to the Mets before winning the next game. Unfortuntately later in August they lost big again to CO and continued into a losing 3 more games. In the first half the Cubs lost alot but not really bad except to Florida late in May (9-0) where they lost two more before turning the season around.

Independent to that I noticed that overall the Cubs focused as a team last night. Lilly focused on each pitch as a veteran is expected. Cedeno, how he hits AAA pitchers so well played very well at SS and Monroe should have made two catches but in reality didn't hurt the game, and did better at the plate. Soto hit the ball with real authority and threw out an errand delayed steal, made a good catch on a tough pop up, he has a future with this organization.

Today Cubs put forward Marquis, probably the best signing as far as value by any of the FA signings last year. Cubs will need to bring the same effort today and beat Lowe & the Dodgers and even the series, and finish the homestand 6-4. Cubs only have 7 more home games left out 23.

They even out the games played with Milwaukee today and can put a full game between them and the Brewers who travel poorly on the road, thankfully facing Arroyo and Harang who match with Bush & Suppan the first two games and then Sheets goes against Belisle who is 7-8. In Pittsburgh Milwaukee also faces Gorzelany.

Milw-09-24-98--Brown in for defense--bases loaded--flyball--HE DROPPED THE BALL!!!NO NO NO, cubs lose 8-7

by Ivy Walls on Sep 6, 2007 9:53 AM CDT   0 recs

by the way,
I think you need to change your signature.  That game was on September 23, I believe.

I only know this because we just named our child Brant, and Brant Brown is the only other one we know with that name, so I was looking him up.

by TC Cubby on Sep 6, 2007 10:00 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

He's right.
It was on September 23.
"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al on Sep 6, 2007 10:24 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

yes, I will
ironically I checked my ticket stub for I was at the game....I screwed up looking up the game via the news accounts
Milw-09-24-98--Brown in for defense--bases loaded--flyball--HE DROPPED THE BALL!!!NO NO NO, cubs lose 8-7

by Ivy Walls on Sep 6, 2007 11:37 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

We named our son Brant
after Brant Miller the weather guy on NBc in Chicago.  I always liked that name.

by mgfabc on Sep 6, 2007 12:40 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

child's name
We were goign to give our child the middle name "wrigley" if it was a boy; alas, it was a beatiful baby girl who is now 4 and is growing into a cubs fan.

by sdurst on Sep 6, 2007 3:30 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

So this is the rubber game
of the Dodgers-Cubs all-time series (tied at 1,007 wins each, according to Al's scorecard from yesterday).

Another fascinating tidbit: the bottom of the 8th inning yesterday was only 28 minutes (and change) long.

Why does everybody stand up and sing "Take Me Out to the Ballgame" when they're already there? ~Larry Anderson

by JohnM on Sep 6, 2007 9:53 AM CDT   0 recs

Al
Could you please use your influence with the Cubs and get them to stop playing "Jump" at the start of the game and "YMCA" when the team rallies in the middle innings?? Both are so old, tired and lame that they need revamping. Thank-You.
Well, sometimes nothin is a real cool hand.

by wicubfan on Sep 6, 2007 9:57 AM CDT   0 recs

re: Al
I don't mind "Jump" so much -- and the "1984" reference is somewhat clever. But I can certainly do without "Y.M.C.A." What the hell does that have to do with a rally anyway?
Carlos Marmol, you complete me.

by dat cubfan daver on Sep 6, 2007 10:01 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Clever
The one I thought was clever was last night they were playing "Rubber Band Man" when Marmol came in. Of course, you need to know something about baseball to get that one (which I'm sure you do daver).
Well, sometimes nothin is a real cool hand.

by wicubfan on Sep 6, 2007 10:14 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs