2008 Cubs Convention Report - Day 2

Lou Piniella, Crane Kenney, Jim Hendry and Randy Bush answer questions on Saturday morning. Standing at right is WGN radio's Dave Eanet. Photo by Al (anyone who wants to take a shot at color-correcting this photo, please do and send it back to me) Update [2008-1-20 13:37:44 by Al]: Thanks to BCB reader mnexile for the revised photo.
It was my question -- based on the question that BCB reader mrcubsfan had posted wanting to know if Lou would consider slotting Kosuke Fukudome in between Derrek Lee and Aramis Ramirez, or some other form of L-R-L-R -- that prompted Lou Piniella to reveal his Opening Day lineup (at least, he said, if we were to open yesterday):
Soriano, lf
Theriot, ss
Lee, 1b
Ramirez, 3b
Fukudome, rf
DeRosa, 2b
Soto, c
Pie, cf
Zambrano, p
There's some good discussion on this topic going on in this diary posted last night, and you can continue this there. Much of it centers around the idea that Ryan Theriot shouldn't hit second, and I agree with that. The hope, obviously, is that Theriot turns out to be a better hitter than he was in 2007. If he doesn't -- and I think we all saw this from Lou last year -- there's no doubt that Lou will try something else, if this lineup fails. In any case, most major league managers use somewhere in the area of 100 different lineups a year, due to platoon advantages, injuries, backup catchers, etc. -- so even if this is what takes the field on March 31, it won't be there absolutely every day.
I saw after cwyers' posted a well-thought-out proposed rotation for the first month, someone posted the (half-joking) thought that Z said that he was going to "make" Ted Lilly start on Opening Day. I wish I would have thought of asking Lou that, because Z has now pitched poorly on three straight Opening Days; in a combined 14.1 innings over those three starts, he's allowed 20 hits, 14 walks, 5 HR, and 13 ER for an 8.30 ERA in those games. Never mind that the Cubs scored 16 runs in 2005 and 2006 and won both years (Z got no-decisions in those games and lost the 2007 opener 5-1). Maybe he gets himself too keyed up for Opening Day; the rotation order matters little after then, so why not try Ted Lilly on March 31?
It's a thought, anyway.
Lou also addressed the CF situation -- as of now, though he mentioned Pie as the starter, he puts Sam Fuld in that mix (hinting, in my opinion, and he didn't say this, it's just my thought, that Fuld has a good shot at making the team), along with Ronny Cedeno as a backup. Yes, I know the Cubs have inquired about Marlon Byrd, but that deal is far from done. Lou gave high praise to Geovany Soto, saying that he could be "a force in the major leagues for a long time", and that "our pitchers really like throwing to him".
He also said that he's looking to be more aggressive on the bases, especially stealing 3B -- he claims it's easier to steal 3B than 2B. I'm not sure I buy that, but Lou intends to have Bob Dernier in camp to help work on this.
At one point he addressed the "Why-is-Soriano-leading-off" question by comparing Soriano to one of his former teammates when he played for the Yankees -- Bobby Bonds. (The two were teammates in 1975.) He says at one point, Bonds, whose playing style and stats are quite similar to Soriano (except that Bonds walked a lot more), was moved from leadoff to third and fifth. He hit poorly there -- but once moved back to leadoff, he started to hit again. Lou's got a good memory -- Bobby Bonds' 1975 splits bear this out. He hit .303/.408/.566 batting leadoff in 1975 (453 PA) and .188/.289/.323 (173 PA) batting in other lineup slots. (Bonds did hit better batting fifth later in his career, and worse hitting leadoff -- his career split shows him hitting slightly better -- .876 OPS -- in the 5 spot -- than in the 1 spot, where his career OPS was .841. And even at that, he had four times as many career PA hitting leadoff than fifth. So, Soriano may have to be dropped in the lineup eventually. But it won't happen this year.)
The bottom line is, you can debate all you want here, but Soriano's hitting leadoff.
Jim Hendry spoke at length about a number of topics; he wouldn't (properly, due to tampering rules) speak about Brian Roberts specifically -- saying that Crane Kenney (who was sitting next to him) could be fined $250,000 if the commissioner's office decided there was tampering. He did debunk the "7-for-2" report about Roberts and Erik Bedard from the other day, saying it was "not accurate". He also confirmed that the Shingo Takatsu signing was primarily to provide, in the term we so charmingly invented a while back, a "Fukufriend" during spring training. Takatsu and Fukudome share the same Japanese agent, know each other well and Takatsu also knows Chicago from his year and a half playing here. I doubt Takatsu has any chance of making the team, but he will help Dome transition to Chicago.
Hendry also gave Dome's US agent, Joe Urbon, a lot of credit for making the deal happen with the Cubs, calling him "honest and credible", saying they spent 60 straight days going back and forth and during the Winter Meetings in Nashville, were frequently negotiating at 2 am due to the time difference.
A couple more notes from Hendry: he gave a veiled slam to Mark Prior for leaving, saying (in response to the question, "Why didn't you offer Prior a contract?") that the Cubs did make an offer, a fairly generous one that would have paid him more than he got from the Padres if he made his incentives, but that Prior had "made the decision to leave". The veiled slam (or as Mike would say, "praising with faint damns") came when he, not long after, spoke of Kerry Wood and how Wood took "less money and less years" to stay with the Cubs and that he was a "great team guy".
But we all know that already, right? Attitude does help -- yes, I know you need talent. But I like guys who are good clubhouse guys, because that can help breed a winning attitude. Wood's got it.
And Hendry, after being asked if he'd trade top prospects for that "right guy" who could put the Cubs over the top, said he would. So I would anticipate he'll be busy the next three weeks.
In conjunction with that, Crane Kenney said that the upcoming sale -- which he said wasn't going to happen by Opening Day, and maybe not all year -- would NOT infringe on Hendry's efforts to acquire players, that it was "business as usual". He also said they are trying to "educate" Sam Zell as to "what makes the Cubs what they are", and how money can be made -- this in connection with a question about the possible sale of naming rights. He joked that he hoped the Wrigley Company would come in and "pay for what they've gotten for free for all these years", but also noted that naming rights are quite valuable (citing the Mets' new ballpark, "Citi Field", which is getting the Mets $400 million from Citibank. That figure got some gasps from the crowd). He said Zell's small stake in the White Sox would eventually have to be divested, but for now, they are giving him a waiver, and that the small stake is through a partnership Zell has, not Zell's personally.
He also gave some brief comments on the Mitchell Report (said the owners agree with some conclusions, not others) and said, in response to a comment by Hendry that he (Hendry) had been swayed to favor replay for HR calls and certain fair/foul calls, that the owners had discussed this at their recent meetings in Arizona and that this wouldn't happen soon. Hendry addressed Mitchell Report questions (regarding whether he'd acquire a player who was in the report) by saying he'd rely on his scouting staff to provide the information he needed; he praised, in particular, Tim Wilken and Gary Hughes.
That's all of it -- the session, as you can imagine, was far less contentious than a year ago, and for good reason: the Cubs are coming off a playoff year, but all concerned, and Lou especially, said they want to take things to the next level. Lou, in particular, seemed really determined to do this, and to hit the ground running; unlike last year, he said, he knows his players and knows what to expect, so he expects no repeat of last year's bad start. And then he finished by telling a funny story about his time managing Ichiro in Seattle, in response to a question about how he'd communicate with Dome.
He said that Ichiro speaks a little Spanish, so they could talk that way. One day in spring training Ichiro, who is very methodical in his work, was hitting every ball to LF -- so much so that the fielders were shifting to that side. Lou said to him after one AB, "Don't you ever pull the ball?" Ichiro looked at him and said, "Pull?" His next time up, he hit the first pitch for a HR to right field, came back to the dugout and said to Lou, "Happy now?"
The rest of the day I spent hanging with friends, as the convention seemed unusually crowded -- I know this is illogical, because they sell the same number of passes each year. I don't go in for the autograph lines, but my son Mark had fun in them, winding up with a couple of current players' signatures and Ernie Banks.
The only other session I attended was the last one of the day, about the "mystique" of the Cubs and Wrigley Field. The one speaking the most passionately about it was Mark DeRosa, who spoke at length about how when he was with Atlanta in 2003, many of the Braves felt the Cubs had five home games with all the fans who showed up for the games in Atlanta, and he remembers thinking at the time, "I want to play for the Cubs." He mentioned his AB in game 3 of the Division Series last year (and apologized for hitting into the DP), but said it was "so loud" that he "almost called time" because he couldn't hear himself thing. (Maybe he should have!) In any case, DeRosa, who got many of the loudest ovations on being introduced in various panels over the weekend (seems most at the convention don't want to see him replaced at 2B, and frankly, I don't either -- giving up what is rumored to be desired for Brian Roberts seems like too much for an incremental upgrade, not a "difference maker"), perhaps more so than any current player, "gets it", understands after only one year what it's like to play for the Cubs, and just as Eric Karros said when he played here, said that everyone should have a chance to play for the Cubs and experience what he has.
Pitchers and catchers report in 24 days. Can't wait!
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De Rosa's at bat
by cachhubguy10 on Jan 20, 2008 8:15 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
Why not bat Fukudome 8th?
by DudeVf11 on Jan 20, 2008 8:28 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
Theriot
if Pie/Fuld and Soto produce Theriot can bat 8th and it won't be as important if he produces.
by cubstoseriesby100 on Jan 20, 2008 8:38 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
RE: the photo
by Ryetronics on Jan 20, 2008 8:49 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
Photo/white balance/color correction
I took a shot at it (old version of P-shop, the good one's on the other machine) and it isn't perfect, but it's better, if slightly grainy.
Where do I send it?
by MN exile on Jan 20, 2008 11:12 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
doh
by Ryetronics on Jan 20, 2008 11:41 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
It's a phone camera...
Send to the email address on the right sidebar.
by Al on Jan 20, 2008 12:45 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
The grain is an artifact of the camera's ISO...
by cwyers on Jan 20, 2008 1:05 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
It's not the number of pixels.
That's what's going on. As for not quite getting the colors perfect, you remember the old film days of "cross-color" under weird lighting conditions?
Probably could have done better on the downstairs box, where I have my editing setup. Maybe I'll try again this afternoon. It's far too cold out for me to feel like going anywhere.
by MN exile on Jan 20, 2008 1:09 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
The other issue is...
by cwyers on Jan 20, 2008 1:18 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Which is why...
by Al on Jan 20, 2008 1:35 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Smaller video cameras too.
The smaller chip size also translates into much more depth of field, which is sometimes OK, and sometimes not at all desirable.
My (aging) pro mini-DV camera produces a very nice image in good light. As light levels get lower, image quality falls off far faster than my "big" Betacam (sold last year) used to. Still, it's fine for 90-95% of what I do - in SD.
In HD, there's a multiplicity of frame sizes, frame rates, and recording formats to deal with - it makes for a messy calculus.
In the still world, my digital SLR is far better than my point-and-shoot for reasons having nothing to do with glass (Canon vs. Nikon is pretty much a wash there) and almost everything to do with imaging chip size.
Anyone still awake?
by MN exile on Jan 20, 2008 1:57 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, but given the better tape fidelity...
by cwyers on Jan 20, 2008 2:04 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Just looked at all of this.
Next time!
by Al on Jan 20, 2008 2:08 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Recording quality
The new card-cam units look interesting, as long as the cards themselves get much more affordable very quickly. The DVD cameras, not so much - far too heavy a compression in recording. Tapeless, though, on principle, would be very good.
by MN exile on Jan 20, 2008 2:25 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I try not to think about these things...
by cwyers on Jan 20, 2008 2:57 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
THAT'S what I'm Talkin' About
Glad to experience the Convention through the watchful eyes of Al Yellon!
To me, the Management breakout is one of the most interesting sessions...
by TheEman on Jan 20, 2008 9:21 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
I took notes this time.
by Al on Jan 20, 2008 11:01 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Happy birthday!
by Chanman25 on Jan 20, 2008 9:27 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
The Ichiro/Piniella story
by Josh77 on Jan 20, 2008 9:54 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
Congratulations!
by sparkles721 on Jan 20, 2008 10:31 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Yes
The little bugger decided to flip herself sometime in the last days before she was born, so she was breech and had to be delivered by C-section. But we just brought her home tonight and baby and mommy are doing fine. (although Mommy is in a lot of pain when her medication wears off.)
by Josh77 on Jan 21, 2008 2:07 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Thanks again Al.
by sue369 on Jan 20, 2008 9:56 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
Great post Al
by pageian on Jan 20, 2008 10:16 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
A few other Piniella statements
He mentioned that this spring there are not as many questions which allows them to work on some specific things. Like, Soriano learning how to play the warning track fly ball. Talked about pitcher's defence, and mentioned Rich Hill. He said he wanted to work on stealing third base more often.
Alan Trammel talked about how the Cubs are the team to beat in the N.L. Central. Lou backed Trammel and mentioned he is looking for this team to win over 90 games.
Cedeno was praised but it was said that he is going to have to prove himself st some point.
At a different conference Ron Santo mentioned that the Cubs were going to make two more moves. He seemed to know some kind of inside information as he said, "...and you will like these moves, believe me."
All in all, the information and questions asked were much less confrontational. There was less on the field baseball talk and more baseball stories shared.
by Imtrejo on Jan 20, 2008 10:36 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
I have a feeling
Also, I don't think Hendry wants to announce it during the convention and put DeRosa in a tough spot to respond.
This quote from (Daily Herald) from Hendry regarding DeRosa's situation was a big big hint:
"But the day we wake up in the morning and consciously put one player's situation above making the ballclub better, that's the last day we should have these jobs."
by MPH73 on Jan 20, 2008 2:11 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
is there audio of the convetion?
by Thelonious on Jan 20, 2008 11:08 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
I can't find anything...
I'd keep checking the WGN radio website.
by Al on Jan 20, 2008 11:28 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
At Not For Women Only
The guy said "Should be up by Tuesday afternoon".
All the WGN radio sessions will be.
by cubstoseriesby100 on Jan 20, 2008 11:36 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Hendry
I heard someone say something I agree with "Let's hope that when new owners take over there's overwhelming support for Jim to keep his job"
The person who said that is actually one of his biggest detractors but his point was that it could only mean good things if Cub fans universally want him to be kept as GM.
by cubstoseriesby100 on Jan 20, 2008 11:50 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
It's easier to steal third base...
The reason you don't see steals of third more often is that it's very risky. You already have a runner in scoring position; you're costing yourself a lot if you fail.
A successful steal of third is actually more productive than a sucessful steal of second; again, this is countered by the high cost of failure.
I should also note that Lou is the expert on base-stealing strategy. So if he says it... you can go ahead and believe it.
by cwyers on Jan 20, 2008 11:51 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
Interesting.
I'm guessing we see the Cubs run a LOT more this year.
by Al on Jan 20, 2008 12:48 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Cubs were 20th in SB%...
I don't know how much the attempt rate will go up - that depends on a lot of things. I do expect the SUCCESS rate to increase.
by cwyers on Jan 20, 2008 1:11 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Nineteenth.
by cwyers on Jan 20, 2008 1:21 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Lou didn't have a lot
This is why he wants more speed (with experience) desperately, and why I think they end up with Roberts before ST.
I agree it can be easier to steal third, as long as you have a guy that knows how to do it. Stealing third is more of an art; being able to read the pitcher so you can get a walking lead and then take off. It just takes makes more than pure speed to steal third.
by MPH73 on Jan 20, 2008 1:54 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Should have known...
But I gotta tell you, my first reaction is that you were going to take me to an article showing Lou as the all time leader in "stolen" bases by a manager, as in ripping them out of the ground during on-the-field tantrums... ;-)
I can't imagine anyone keeps stats like that, but if they did, I gotta believe Lou would be near the top, if not number one.
by ballhawk on Jan 20, 2008 2:22 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
DeRosa and Zambrano's reception.
The only disappointment that I had came during the opening ceremonies, when Zambrano was introduced. For the most part, he got big cheers, but there were some boos audible as well, which was very disappointing. Hopefully I misunderstood them and it was a chant of "Z!", as one fan I spoke with suggested, but I don't think so. If it's a carry-over from his boil over at Wrigley, I hope everyone can bury the hatchet from that. We're going to need Carlos as our ace for a lot of years to come.
by ctcoff99 on Jan 20, 2008 12:19 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Theriot too
DeRosa and Theriot might be responsible for a good chunk of tickets sold this weekend!
by ak123 on Jan 20, 2008 9:21 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
great stuff as always...thanks Al...
Were days away from our first baby here so the babywatch moves to this household for now :)
by JB 23 on Jan 20, 2008 12:30 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Good luck!
by Josh77 on Jan 21, 2008 2:12 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Bonds' ability to walk makes him
I wish Kessinger had had Soriano's ability to bat wherever he wanted to in the order and had begged Leo to bat him eighth.
by TR on Jan 20, 2008 12:40 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Soriano's HRs
I also really worry about relying too heavily on the HR. I like them, I applaud them, loudly and sustainedly as warranted, of course, still, I hope Lou gets his "manufacturing runs" approach going with better team speed. Home runs are gravy...
by MN exile on Jan 20, 2008 2:31 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Ooooh....
by pageian on Jan 20, 2008 8:16 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Excellent
by timlacy on Jan 20, 2008 5:10 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
maybe he is the player we are getting
by joeschmitt on Jan 20, 2008 7:39 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
They just showed
by sue369 on Jan 20, 2008 6:51 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
what's guy liner?
by buckmulligan on Jan 20, 2008 9:32 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I'm guessing it's eye liner for men
you know, like the "Manssiere"...
by ballhawk on Jan 20, 2008 10:06 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
BRO!!!
by dat cubfan daver on Jan 20, 2008 10:21 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Packers - HA!
GO BEARS!!!
by TheEman on Jan 20, 2008 10:02 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
I was out with friends
Who would have thunk the Super Bowl bound Manning would be Eli who's season this year is quite similar to Rex's last year.
by cubstoseriesby100 on Jan 20, 2008 10:11 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Funny!
by TheEman on Jan 20, 2008 10:18 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Congrats Josh!
Here's the link to a video of a song I always suggest new parents of baby girls listen to.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hTQfERb9HVk
Heck parents of any girls. It's become a big song for christenings and also father/daughter wedding dances.
by cubstoseriesby100 on Jan 20, 2008 10:26 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
And here's one for the boys...
Hmm... I'm imagining "Uncle" Christopher at a christening. Well, it would certainly be memorable...
by ballhawk on Jan 21, 2008 2:00 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs

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