The Top 20 Cub HR Of All Time - #20 Lou Brock 6/17/1962
Here's the only clue I'll give you to the contents of the rest of this list: this home run, hit by Lou Brock at the Polo Grounds in New York on June 17, 1962, is the only one of the 20 hit by a Cub on the road.
In a small way, this home run might have been what eventually wound up making the Cubs give up on Brock and trading him to the Cardinals.
Brock, who had a decent rookie year in 1962 after a September callup in 1961 (he hit .263/.319/.412), in between George Altman in right, and Billy Williams (the NL Rookie of the Year in 1961) in left. Both Altman and Williams were, of course, power hitters, and the team had two other power hitters in Ernie Banks and Ron Santo.
Also remember that the 1962 team had virtually no direction -- it was the second year of the ridiculous College of Coaches scheme, and El Tappe, Lou Klein and Charlie Metro rotated in and out of "leading" this ballclub, and I put "leading" in quotes because the '62 Cubs lost 103 games -- a club record and the first time they had ever lost 100 games in a season -- and finished behind expansion Houston, in 9th place.
Meanwhile, these coaches were, apparently, trying to mold Brock into a power hitter in the Williams/Altman mode -- after all, he hit lefthanded and was African-American, right?
I know that sounds ridiculous today, but in the less-enlightened days of the early 1960's, some baseball men may have thought that way.
Anyway, Brock came into that June 17, 1962 game in New York against the Mets hitting a decent .263/.320/.452, with 6 HR and 18 RBI. He had 15 doubles and 8 stolen bases in 59 games, a pace which would have given him 40 doubles and about 22 SB over a full season. Perspective: the previous year, Richie Ashburn had led the Cubs in SB. With seven. The Cubs hadn't yet joined the rest of baseball, which was beginning to rediscover the SB after decades of decline.
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Immediately, it began to host record events. Jimmy Breslin, in his book about the early years of the Mets, "The Amazing Mets", wrote:
On June 17, 1962, in the first inning of the first game of a doubleheader, Brock, after two walks and a Ron Santo triple, smacked an Al Jackson pitch into the right-center field bleachers, his seventh of the season. In nearly fifty years of baseball games in New York, no one had ever reached that area (Joe Adcock, playing for the Milwaukee Braves, had hit one to the left-center field bleachers on April 29, 1953).
Nothing's ever been documented about this before, but it's my feeling that Cubs coaches, seeing this tremendous blast by Brock, began to try even harder to mold him into a power hitter, something he was ill-suited to be. He hit only two home runs the rest of 1962 -- probably trying too hard -- only nine in 1963 (with an increased strikeout total), and two in 52 games in 1964 before the ill-fated trade to St. Louis on June 15.
So Brock's memorable blast might have hastened his departure from the Cubs. If only they had been more in tune with modern baseball, which was beginning to emphasize speed over power in the 1960's.
Finally, in a weird confluence of events that you only seem to see in baseball, the very next day after Brock's HR -- Monday, June 18, 1962 -- Henry Aaron hit a HR to almost the same spot in the CF bleachers at the Polo Grounds, off the Mets' Jay Hook. Those were the only two times that feat was accomplished.
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Brock
by KedzieKid on Jan 23, 2008 9:17 AM CST 0 recs
I may be wrong
by BigJohnAZ on
Jan 23, 2008 12:22 PM CST
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Brock always struck out a lot.
by TR on Jan 23, 2008 9:26 AM CST 0 recs
Don't mean to be picky but....
You wrote "Anyway, Brock came into that July 17, 1962 game in New York against the Mets hitting a decent .263/.320/.452, with 6 HR and 18 RBI."
by tucsoncubsfan on Jan 23, 2008 9:38 AM CST 0 recs
Pick away.
by Al on
Jan 23, 2008 9:45 AM CST
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Lou Brock/Ken Hubbs memories
Is there a single one among us who can't remember that first time coming through the entry way and seeing the grass and ivy for the first time? I'd guess not.
by cubfever7 on
Jan 23, 2008 11:44 AM CST
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Spangler
by wild bill on
Jan 23, 2008 3:21 PM CST
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Al Spangler...
by Al on
Jan 23, 2008 3:33 PM CST
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You've gotta be kidding, Al!
Something about this image makes me laugh.
by IowaCubs- on Jan 23, 2008 9:51 AM CST 0 recs
Santo and Triples
Ron ended up with 67 triples.
by MetsSuck on
Jan 23, 2008 10:36 AM CST
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Check the record
by rlpete on
Jan 23, 2008 10:38 AM CST
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I was just joking...
On a side note, I hope we can get the wheels rolling on a campaign for Santo's admission to the Hall of Fame in 2009. Does anyone have the list of the Veterans Committee? Perhaps we could start to lobby them now.
Any thoughts from the BCB community?
(excellent memories of Brock btw Al)
by IowaCubs- on
Jan 23, 2008 10:52 AM CST
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Santo and the Hall of Fame
Ron Santo has been the #1 issue facing the Vets committee for years and years - everyone on the committee seems to have their minds made up COUGH*joemorgan*COUGH and no amount of "statistics" or "facts" that the Factonistas can bring to their attention will change their minds.
Bill James wrote a book about the Hall of Fame over a decade ago that calls Santo's omission the #1 greatest mistake that the Hall has ever made.
If Bill James Himself can't get these idiots to vote Ronny in... it's somewhat grim, but the only hope is that the old fuddy-duddy types who are voting against him die off so that Santo can be elected while he can still enjoy it.
Either that, or we have to hope that the newly elected HOFers were Santo fans.
But the point of this post is that the Vets Committee is very, very aware of Santo's candidacy. There have been books about it, thousands of columns, even a movie. Heck, after Santo just missed last time, the commissioner of baseball commented on the need for vets committee reform.
by ClosingTime on
Jan 23, 2008 11:32 AM CST
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Very sad...
by IowaCubs- on
Jan 23, 2008 1:47 PM CST
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Topping that
Santo was heading for second base and if memory serves me right, he approach the bag with a head first slide. As soon as he hit the dirt(mud)about three feet short of second, his body just stuck. He looked like a turtle on his back. It was just such a funny play. I still chuckle thinking about it.
by wild bill on
Jan 23, 2008 11:23 AM CST
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Santo hit quite a few triples actually
by cubfever7 on
Jan 23, 2008 11:30 AM CST
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Maybe I should do a little research?
"If Bill James' metric is to be believed, at his peak Santo was simply the top player in the National League. In 1967, he led the NL in Win Shares with 38. (Not that anyone knew it at the time.) He had four more Win Shares than Cardinals first baseman Orlando Cepeda, the unanimous NL Most Valuable Player. In Santo's prime years, 1964 to 1967, he exceeded 30 Win Shares each season. During the 1960s, he was one of only three major leaguers to reach 30 or more Win Shares in four consecutive years. The other two were Hank Aaron and Willie Mays." ESPN.com March--2005
by cubfever7 on
Jan 23, 2008 11:33 AM CST
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Yet another reason...
The answer for Santo is, yes, he probably was, and for more than one year.
by Al on
Jan 23, 2008 11:37 AM CST
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Best at his position
by rlpete on
Jan 23, 2008 4:07 PM CST
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great photo!
by dizzle on Jan 23, 2008 11:49 AM CST 0 recs
I honestly don't know.
by Al on
Jan 23, 2008 12:04 PM CST
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Old photos
I suspect that shot was medium or large format, and maybe shot with a polarizer, which increases color saturation again.
Another trick with reversal film is to underexpose by about 1/2 stop for richer blacks and snappier colors. And an absolute must when shooting reversal was to bracket - usually in 1/2-stop increments, and depending on the available resources, maybe to a range of plus or minus two stops.
by MN exile on
Jan 23, 2008 12:22 PM CST
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Just a sidelight...
The only new face is Mark Riggins, who is taking over as the pitching coordinator. He previously performed those duties for the St. Louis Cardinals. Lester Strode, the previous pitching coordinator, is the new bullpen coach. No idea who Strode is replacing.
by cwyers on Jan 23, 2008 12:05 PM CST 0 recs
Lester Strode...
by Al on
Jan 23, 2008 12:28 PM CST
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Hmm
DmL
by dmlichte on
Jan 23, 2008 12:35 PM CST
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Not diary worthy
DmL
by dmlichte on Jan 23, 2008 12:37 PM CST 0 recs
My guess is...
As a Dodgers coach, clearly that's not possible. I don't think there's anything more at work here than that.
by Al on
Jan 23, 2008 12:53 PM CST
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Yay, buried lede!
E-Patt as an option in center? Well, that's news to me. Certainly not something I'd slip in the last paragraph of an article.
(lemon20pie arriving to restate my ignorance in 3.... 2... 1...)
by cwyers on Jan 23, 2008 1:22 PM CST 0 recs
No, me first.
I think E-Patt's days as an infielder are over.
by Al on
Jan 23, 2008 2:10 PM CST
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It's the "long look" part...
E-Patt's best value to the team right now (if he can't be traded) is as a bench player, in my mind. Even if he can't play second well, he can't be THAT much worse than Mike Fontenot that it makes a major difference over the course of a season as a fill-in for when DeRosa goes roving over to third base. And in the interim he can back up the outfield spots as well, which is something Fontenot can't do.
by cwyers on
Jan 23, 2008 2:13 PM CST
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The "long look" part...
by Al on
Jan 23, 2008 3:31 PM CST
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I'm hardly worried.
It just frustrates me so much that Muskat doesn't seem to understand what "news" is. She has the sort of access that, quite frankly, fills me with envy - and she wastes it. Oh, the club might give E-Patt a chance at the center fielder's job next season? That's certainly a heck of a lot more interesting than "Hey, the Cubs have two new outfielders!"
Uh, yeah, we figured that out about a month ago, thanks, Carrie.
I just get so annoyed at being fed table scraps of information at the tail end of puff pieces. Almost any time she passes along useful, interesting information it's by accident.
by cwyers on
Jan 23, 2008 3:40 PM CST
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I love looking at the box scores of old games
the thing that sticks out in this one (other the fact these teams were already collectively 46 games below .500 on June 17) is Mets starter Al Jackson gave up 8 hits, 8 runs (4 earned), struck out 7 and walked 5. I wonder how many pitches he threw? You would think with the high K and BB numbers it must have near 130. Of course who knows if they even kept track of that back then. Oh, and it was 90 degrees and sunny with no wind...just not something you see anymore.
Of course Dusty is liable to pull it with Homer Bailey on a August day in St. Louis sometime this year
by DC Cubbie on Jan 23, 2008 8:41 PM CST 0 recs
All Right, I'll Bite...
http://cincinnati.reds.mlb.com/schedule/index.jsp?c_id=cin&m=8&y=2008
:-P
by initram on
Jan 23, 2008 10:57 PM CST
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They'll have to make up a rain date.
by cwyers on
Jan 23, 2008 11:34 PM CST
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It gets just as hot...
by Al on
Jan 24, 2008 10:15 AM CST
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62 Mets v 62 Cubs
by ExNorthsider on Jan 24, 2008 9:55 AM CST 0 recs
Correct.
by Al on
Jan 24, 2008 10:16 AM CST
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UGH
by ExNorthsider on
Jan 24, 2008 10:40 AM CST
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