Oh, The Humanity
Trade talks between the Mariners and Orioles about Erik Bedard...
Just one more thing.
MAKE IT STOP. PLEASE, MAKE IT STOP.
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by philadelphiacub on Jan 30, 2008 11:57 AM CST reply actions
That's why
I agree. Let's forget about Roberts.
Let's forget Roberts............
After the Santana deal, the price for his services should be less than originally anticipated.
That is not going to work
by cubfaninSTL on Jan 30, 2008 12:52 PM CST up reply actions
If only one team is interested
But
and we don't need him.
by buckmulligan on Jan 30, 2008 4:06 PM CST up reply actions
Dang straight ..
by cubnational on Jan 30, 2008 10:28 PM CST up reply actions
I would actual expect that MacPhail...
And for what it's worth, Peter Gammons has said that Roberts will be a Cub within the week.
MacPhail...
Orioles
DmL
Oh, and by the way...
Crisp
by Josh Timmers on Jan 30, 2008 12:20 PM CST up reply actions
no to Crisp
by cubfaninSTL on Jan 30, 2008 12:43 PM CST up reply actions
Trade Pie...
trading partners
Hirsh has a chance to be truly dominant. I saw him in person a couple times in AAA and he was untouchable. I can't imagine how Houston ever thought that was a good deal.
Please stop...
by santoswoodenlegs on Jan 30, 2008 12:19 PM CST reply actions
Is there any chance you can e-mail this pic to me?
Even better...
by santoswoodenlegs on Jan 31, 2008 12:07 AM CST up reply actions
OT
Also, I think that all the otehr deals for Bedard have falen through should be encouraging, not frustrating. Hendry should start circling Baltimore like a buzzard, waiting for desparation on their part.
by jazzypete on Jan 30, 2008 12:20 PM CST reply actions
Wood...
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Al, you've wanted to make it stop
Did you run out of other topics?
You know you can always bring up the Byrd trade possibilities...yikes!
It's a SLOOOOOOOOOOOOW news time.
exactly, these trade rumors
by buckmulligan on Jan 30, 2008 4:08 PM CST up reply actions
Weeeellllll....
He also told a good Mike Fontenot story. He said that last spring, due to a numbers crunch, Fontenot was thisclose to being released. Enough people stuck up for him, he was retained and he ended up being a valuable member of the big club for a while.
I agree
New Hornsby quote
Or...
amen.
by drewishdrewid on Jan 30, 2008 1:35 PM CST up reply actions
Just to show you how bad Orioles are...
Tampa Bay
It's very unfortunate for them...
Unfortunately, as you said, they have virtually no shot to compete in that division.
Al
OK, now that I know you're all right...
I agree. It sounds like Angelos wants to renege on McPhail's handshake -- something that would be unexpected from any source other than Angelos.
Hendry needs to move on. He still needs to trade Murton for a RH CF/4th OF. He probably also intends to jettison Marquis (or Dempster). The longer he waits, the less choice he's going to have as far as trading partners. Forget Roberts, get the rest of the shuffling done, then "Play Ball!"
I don't necessarily agree...
Let's say Dempster and Marquis BOTH throw well in spring training and so does Lieber.
That makes one of Dempster/Marquis not only expendable, but desirable. You can bet there will be plenty of scouts at Cubs spring training games.
For what this is worth...
by Anders on Jan 30, 2008 1:56 PM CST reply actions
For the last few off-seasons
Spring Training cannot start soon enough.
Yeah, but on the other hand...
Oh, look - Andy Petite could testify against Clemens. Fun, fun, fun.
I agree
I have a feeling
I never get tired of Clemens stuff
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2008/writers/tom_verducci/01/29/verducci.clemensreport/index.html
Darn I can't find one from a sports doctor obliterating the idea
that a trainer could or would inject lidocane but I do rember his saying it is effective for only about two hours thus if it was injected it would have to be in the clubhouse right before a game.
This does make my off season go faster.
by jessica on Jan 30, 2008 4:48 PM CST up reply actions
Jessica
The ONLY use I could see is if the lidocaine were injected into a sensitive area that was hurting, i.e., elbow, shoulder etc. and even then it might mess up the pitcher's performance since the proprioception (i.e., ability to sense one's body part in space) would be messed up.
This is nonsense. And B12?! Why on earth would a young, healthy guy take B12. As far as I can tell, he did not have some sort of nutritional deficiency or megaloblastic anemia.
Clemens is only making himself look stupider. He should have admitted use citing that he used HGH before it was illegal. Denying everything highlights the extent of his lies.
I don't get
And lucky us in the DC area
It's total speculation but I wonder if Angelos is pissed because MacPhail didn't keep him in the loop. Until this incident, all indications were that MacPhail had autonomy. The Tejada trade went smoothly but since Angelos didn't want Tejada he probably didn't care. When MacPhail wants to start touching his favorites in Bedard and Roberts, that's another thing.
Which tells you...
That is exactly what I keep thinking
Hopefully this latest Angelos brain cramp
Agreed. Got it Jim.
I like the idea of Pie developing, but I see the Cubs missing a good starter. A rotation of:
Zambrano
Lilly
Bedard
Hill
Lieber/Gallagher/Hart
Would have me excited. You don't know me, but it takes a lot to create optimism at the start of a season.
Would you make this trade? (if the O's would)
You pick up Crisp or another serviceable CF and a you have a bonafide difference maker leadoff hitter and a starting staff of Z, Bedard, Lilly, Hill and whoever at #5. That staff witht he current bullpen can take you to the WS kids; a little too left handed, but very nice.
I'd do it
Oh hell yeah
Too good to be true.
Z, Bedard and Lilly match up now with the snakes and Mets...
I'd stay away from Crisp though.
I wouldn't do it.
Plus, then you have mortgaged not only your top two OF prospects, you've also given up two good young arms. What if Bedard suddenly comes down with Mark Prior Towel Disease?
Nope. Forget this. Let's move on.
To get both
Sure, Bedard could get hurt, but so could any one.
Whatever happens, I hope it's soon . . . someone else mentioned that this is probably a distraction for Roberts; it's got to be for the Cubs, too.
by Shanghai Badger on Jan 31, 2008 10:42 AM CST up reply actions
You can't use the injury what-if
What if Derrek Lee injured his wrist in April and was inneffective the rest of the season because of it? Oh wait that already happened and the Cubs tanked.
I don't care about the future. I've waited long enough already. I want a Cubs WS title.
This is such f-ing crap about not giving up prospects. That's why they're called prospects. The Cubs aren't dealing Z, A-Ram, Fonzie or D-Lee.
As-constructed, this team will be hard pressed to even make the WS, let alone win it.
Their pitching staff is largely unchanged from last season and they've only added 2 players, who are decent lineup upgrades from before but not enough to get by good teams in the playoffs with good starting pitching.
Remember the Cubs were swept by the snakes, who were swept by the Rox, who were swept by the BoSox.
And remember...
MLB.com is reporting...
I swear, this Hot Stove should have come with a copy of "On Death and Dying" so we could brush up on the five stages of grief.
I think we're all at "anger" right now.
Angelos might be doing us a favor...
The good news is Angelos can't buy the Cubs..
That's good stuff
Not even!
A Cardinals fan sent me this link...
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/articles/news/news.html?in_article_id=511337&in_page_id=17 70
Those people...
Hendry
http://chicago.comcastsportsnet.com/ctl.asp
Bedard to resign with the O's
Also, the mentioned Jones' hip problem, which is evidently similar to Albert Belle's, which cost Baltimore tens of millions of dollars for no production whatsoever.
So maybe another team can get in on Bedard if they arent interested in Seattles offer and McPhail wont go past 3 years in a new deal with Bedard
With Angelos attempt to resign Bedard
Congratulations, the worst owner in all of sports: Mr. Peter Angelos of the Baltimore Orioles
Angelos or P.K.?
Not only is he ruining the opportunity to infuse the club with young talent and cut payroll, he's effectively telling next year's FAs and beyond that Baltimore is a place where a meddling owner will suffocate the responsibilities of his staff and is no place for a player to be free to perform without in-house drama.
Anyway Trembley is part of a "College of Coaches" this year?
by The Ryno and I Know on Jan 31, 2008 7:55 AM CST reply actions

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