Official Discussion Thread: Brewers vs. Phillies Game #1, Wednesday 10/1, 2:00 CT
Thought I'd open up this thread for discussion on the "other" series.
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Go...Brewers?
Feels odd to say after this regular season, but I think I’m in the majority in saying I’d rather play them in the NLCS.
make*art
by neverAcquiesce on Oct 1, 2008 9:32 AM CDT 0 recs
I don't know
I think the Brewers are riding a bigger “high” right now than the Phillies. If they won the first round of the playoffs, that could be a great motivator for them. In the playoffs, its not necessarily the best teams that win, its the ones that get hot at the right time.
I may be in the minority, but I think I may rather see the Cubs face the Phils. Perhaps Lidge scares me a bit, but their rotation isn’t very good past Hamels. Their line-up is pretty scary but good pitching negates good hitting.
"Prince Fielder Dies Of Inside-The-Park Homerun" - The Onion
by DTJchris on
Oct 1, 2008 9:40 AM CDT
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That lineup scares me, too.
The Brewers & Phillies are both good teams. The Brewers’ bullpen is weak and their rotation in shambles with Sheets out. That said, I hope Milwaukee wins.
"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx
by Al on
Oct 1, 2008 9:43 AM CDT
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Plus
we’ve played CC exceptionally well two of the three times we’ve faced him.
make*art
by neverAcquiesce on
Oct 1, 2008 9:46 AM CDT
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Yeah, talk about mixed emotions.
A bitter part of me still wants the Brewers to fail but, undoubtedly, they would be the weaker opponent (on paper). Aside from the Brewers questionable rotation beyond CC and highly suspect bullpen, the Cubs have faced them many more times than they have the Phillies, so I’d assume the scouting report would be much more detailed.
The Chicago Cubs: 2008 Central Division Champions
by dat cubfan daver on
Oct 1, 2008 9:48 AM CDT
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Trust me on this one.
The Cubs have plenty of scouts at the Phillies/Brewers series.
"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx
by Al on
Oct 1, 2008 10:25 AM CDT
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Wouldn't the Phillies be that hot motivated team, then, if they win the series?
Seems whoever wins it will go into the NLCS pumped up, just like the winner of our series.
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by JohnM on
Oct 1, 2008 10:31 AM CDT
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The Phillies clinched a week ago
The Brewers were left for dead in the water and they won the wild card on the last day of the season. I just think that the Brewers are riding a bigger “high”, as I stated above, than the Phillies are and do not want to see their momentum gain by beating the Phillies.
I think the Phillies are the favorite in the series and so they are expected to win. If the Brewers win, they will have defied the odds not just with the Wild Card but then in the NLDS as well. I just don’t want to see the Brewers be this year’s Rockies.
"Prince Fielder Dies Of Inside-The-Park Homerun" - The Onion
by DTJchris on
Oct 1, 2008 10:45 AM CDT
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Ned Yost Sighting...
Throwing Cheesesteaks at random cars, building up his pitch count.
Proud recipient of a hot dog shot from the Iowa Cubs hot dog gun.
by IowaCubs- on Oct 1, 2008 9:36 AM CDT 0 recs
He'll be in the bleachers at Citizens Bank Park, drunk as a skunk and decked out in Philly red and white...
…yelling “Hey, Cecil!” at Prince Fielder and giving Ryan Bran crap every time he strikes out.
The Chicago Cubs: 2008 Central Division Champions
by dat cubfan daver on
Oct 1, 2008 9:44 AM CDT
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Doubtful
There is a certain thing called playoff and World Series money that Yost still has an interest in and undoubtedly he would be voted a full share. His interest will be for Milwaukee to win without a doubt.
Who needs a stinkin' tag line? What are they for anyway?
by krummy12 on
Oct 1, 2008 10:13 AM CDT
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Do managers and coaches get part of the players' shares?
Anyone know?
"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx
by Al on
Oct 1, 2008 10:26 AM CDT
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Yes...
…I believe they do, as well as the trainers etc.
This is huge for the guys like the trainers if the team wins it all. They basically make more money with their playoff share, than they do with their entire salary.
"I don't like them fellas that drive in two runs but let in three" Casey Stengel
by MPH73 on
Oct 1, 2008 10:31 AM CDT
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It was my understanding that coaches get a share but not the manager.
Hey, it's a new century!
by cowsarecool220 on
Oct 1, 2008 10:57 AM CDT
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I'm not certain...
…but if true, it really makes no sense.
"I don't like them fellas that drive in two runs but let in three" Casey Stengel
by MPH73 on
Oct 1, 2008 10:59 AM CDT
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That's true but the standard managerial contract has
a built-in bonus escalator for winning the wild-card, division, pennant and WS.
"Hats for bats.....keep bats warm." - Pedro Cerrano
"Hey bartender, Jobu needs a refill !!!!!!!" - Eddie Harris
by willie mays hayes' gloves on
Oct 1, 2008 11:14 AM CDT
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Look into those eyes.

Do those look like the eyes of a man who cares about money? His only concern is venting the seething rage and hurt welling up from the bottom of his black, black soul.
The Chicago Cubs: 2008 Central Division Champions
by dat cubfan daver on
Oct 1, 2008 10:26 AM CDT
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Doesn't he also get a ring if they win it all?
by dr stabbingworth on
Oct 1, 2008 1:26 PM CDT
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I think that ring is staying where it is now.
"Hats for bats.....keep bats warm." - Pedro Cerrano
"Hey bartender, Jobu needs a refill !!!!!!!" - Eddie Harris
by willie mays hayes' gloves on
Oct 1, 2008 1:27 PM CDT
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He'll be lucky if he gets a ring on his phone.
The Chicago Cubs: 2008 Central Division Champions
by dat cubfan daver on
Oct 1, 2008 1:55 PM CDT
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Not sure who I'd rather see win
I think the Phillies are going to come out on top in this series though. I just think they are the superior team and will ultimately just play better.
As far as this first game goes, I see it going to the Phillies. Gallardo is a fly ball pitcher and Philadelphia is not a place you want to be giving up fly balls…especially those of the long variety. Hamels is a tough lefty who actually seems to do better against righties due to his awesome change up. I just don’t see this one swinging the Brewers way.
by rambler19 on Oct 1, 2008 9:45 AM CDT 0 recs
personally i don't care who wins..
I just want it to go 5 games so either CC comes back on 3 days rest and Hamels have to pitch game 5..
Your 2008 NL Central Champs: Chicago Cubs!!! Go Cubs Go
by mkcubs21 on Oct 1, 2008 9:48 AM CDT 0 recs
+1
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by dat cubfan daver on
Oct 1, 2008 9:48 AM CDT
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Exactly.
In addition, I can’t waste any cheering on the Brewers when the Cubs are coming up three hours later.
make*art
by neverAcquiesce on
Oct 1, 2008 9:56 AM CDT
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extra innings for every game.
"That’s the great thing about baseball, you never know what’s going to happen till you get the final out." — Lou Piniella
by drewishdrewid on
Oct 1, 2008 11:40 AM CDT
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This has the potential..
…to be a very strange series.
I can see the Phillies having relatively easy wins in games CC doesn’t pitch, but getting shut down by the big guy. This thing could go the full five games, but the run differential could be huge in the Phillies favor.
"I don't like them fellas that drive in two runs but let in three" Casey Stengel
by MPH73 on Oct 1, 2008 10:23 AM CDT 0 recs
im just hoping for good games.
and while it would require a cubs loss for it to happen the potential of 4 playoff baseball games on Sunday makes me downright giddy.
---AC 00 00 00 - Believe
by mjk83 on Oct 1, 2008 10:41 AM CDT 0 recs
hamels and moyer
scare me. Hamels this year vs. the cubs: 14 ip 0.64 era 0.57 whip .128 baa.
The Brewers ineptitude on defense and the difference between Torres and Lidge make me a definite Brewer fan for the next few days.
bring up felix.
by kylejo on Oct 1, 2008 10:58 AM CDT 0 recs
Brewers, Brewers, Brewers
Most of the reasons have already been mentioned. I’d rather face Salomon Torres than Brad Lidge. I’d rather hit sinking line drives to Braun and Hart than Werth and Victorino. I’d rather have Wrigley and WNorth than just Wrigley.
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by tony412 on Oct 1, 2008 11:18 AM CDT 0 recs
I'm rooting for the Brew Crew as well
all the Phillies strength is LH hitting and since we have a primarily RH staff, i’d rather avoid them
I’d say the Brewers have a better rotation than people are giving credit for here
Sabathia greater than Hamels
Gallardo = Myers
Bush = Moyer
Suppan = Blanton
I still would rather face the Brewers than the Phillies, but I don’t think its a HUGE discrepancy in talent
by DartmouthCubsFan on Oct 1, 2008 11:35 AM CDT 0 recs
I've haven't done much searching but
is this the first time that a pitcher with no decisions has started a post-season game an/or series?
by rlpete on Oct 1, 2008 11:54 AM CDT 0 recs
Al had an answer for that
"I owe [Dunston] a lot. Nobody would know how good I was at digging balls out of the dirt if it wasn't for him..." -Mark Grace
"If [Ruth] had [called his shot], I would have knocked him down with the next pitch." -Charlie Root
by Clutch16 on
Oct 1, 2008 12:07 PM CDT
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In case you can't go through that...
… Virgil Trucks, 1945 Tigers, 0-0 after coming back from the war, is the only other one at all — but he didn’t start game 1, he started game 2.
"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx
by Al on
Oct 1, 2008 1:30 PM CDT
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I'm rooting for a 5 game series with game #5 going about 22 innings...
and at least a dozen players on the winning team sustaining “groin pulls”. (Why is is the word “sustain” is ALWAYS used with “groin pulls”?)
And then the team bus breaks down on the trip to the airport to fly to Chicago.
They have to undergo full body cavity searches because some player made a “smuggling” joke …AND their luggage gets lost.
Go Green! Go White! GO STATE! (#13031 on the Cubs season ticket waiting list...)
by Zeke on Oct 1, 2008 11:55 AM CDT 0 recs
Should read: (Why is it, the word "sustain" is ALWAYS used with "groin pulls"?)
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by Zeke on
Oct 1, 2008 11:56 AM CDT
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I'm guessing to stave off comments like
“He pulled a groin, hopefully his own.”
"I owe [Dunston] a lot. Nobody would know how good I was at digging balls out of the dirt if it wasn't for him..." -Mark Grace
"If [Ruth] had [called his shot], I would have knocked him down with the next pitch." -Charlie Root
by Clutch16 on
Oct 1, 2008 12:11 PM CDT
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Burrell might be out with a lower back problem..
Here is the link
http://blogs.jsonline.com/brewers/archive/2008/10/01/burrell-could-be-scratched.aspx
Just because I don't care doesn't mean I don't understand. - Homer J Simpson
by MikeOxbyg on Oct 1, 2008 12:45 PM CDT 0 recs
D'oh - that's bad news for the Phils.
The Chicago Cubs: 2008 Central Division Champions
by dat cubfan daver on
Oct 1, 2008 1:56 PM CDT
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He's gonna play
"What a great call! Your doing a fantastic job, but people expect me to come out here and be upset. So I'm gonna kick some dirt, you understand?" - Lou Pinella
by Lou In Blue on
Oct 1, 2008 2:01 PM CDT
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OT: Fanposts
How the heck do I get the ‘traditional’ view back as the DEFAULT? So I don’t have to click to get to it each time?
The day we lose our will to fight - Is the day we lose our Freedom.
by sanantonecub on Oct 1, 2008 1:06 PM CDT 0 recs
That's a good question.
I have no idea — the new view is new to us today. Why don’t you email support (at) sbnation (dot) com and ask?
"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx
by Al on
Oct 1, 2008 1:31 PM CDT
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Game starts in less than five minutes.
Time to boot up mlb.tv.
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by dat cubfan daver on Oct 1, 2008 1:56 PM CDT 0 recs
PBP?
I’m at work, and will be until 6 CT…. weak…
"What a great call! Your doing a fantastic job, but people expect me to come out here and be upset. So I'm gonna kick some dirt, you understand?" - Lou Pinella
by Lou In Blue on
Oct 1, 2008 2:01 PM CDT
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Unfortunately, I'm at work, too...
…so I can’t do PBP. But I’ll try to post updates as often as I can.
The Chicago Cubs: 2008 Central Division Champions
by dat cubfan daver on
Oct 1, 2008 2:03 PM CDT
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Make that Gameday Audio.
Stupid blackout rules.
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by dat cubfan daver on
Oct 1, 2008 2:03 PM CDT
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Why the blackout? Isn't it on TV also? I confuse.
"Hats for bats.....keep bats warm." - Pedro Cerrano
"Hey bartender, Jobu needs a refill !!!!!!!" - Eddie Harris
by willie mays hayes' gloves on
Oct 1, 2008 2:04 PM CDT
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Me too.
I was hoping that, because the games will be televised everywhere, MLB would lift the blackout rules. That would certainly make life easier for married guys like me, whose wives don’t necessarily want to watch the game. Stupid me.
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by dat cubfan daver on
Oct 1, 2008 2:09 PM CDT
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It looks like
Live Internet video feeds from mlb.com for the games are available overseas, but you can only get the audio feeds domestically. Probably has to do with TBS/Fox not wanting to give up a single set of eyeballs if they can help it.
"I owe [Dunston] a lot. Nobody would know how good I was at digging balls out of the dirt if it wasn't for him..." -Mark Grace
"If [Ruth] had [called his shot], I would have knocked him down with the next pitch." -Charlie Root
by Clutch16 on
Oct 1, 2008 2:15 PM CDT
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Yeah, that's probably it.
Still sucks.
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by dat cubfan daver on
Oct 1, 2008 2:19 PM CDT
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You would think they could find a way to satisfy the
TBS/Fox folks since they control the content. Boneheads.
"Hats for bats.....keep bats warm." - Pedro Cerrano
"Hey bartender, Jobu needs a refill !!!!!!!" - Eddie Harris
by willie mays hayes' gloves on
Oct 1, 2008 2:23 PM CDT
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The way MLB treats their audio/video stuff
is even more irritating (ridiculous?) when you start seeing the way the NFL treats its audio/video.
I can get Bears radio online for free, but not the Cubs? Stupid, Bud. Thats just plain stupid.
There's magic in the ivy...
by halfblindcubbiegirl on
Oct 1, 2008 2:25 PM CDT
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How do you get the Bears for free...
I thought it was paid just like MLB?
Just because I don't care doesn't mean I don't understand. - Homer J Simpson
by MikeOxbyg on
Oct 1, 2008 2:29 PM CDT
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Nope
you can get Joniak’s feed from Bears.com for free.
There's magic in the ivy...
by halfblindcubbiegirl on
Oct 1, 2008 2:30 PM CDT
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You would think they would look around and
see how the other leagues control their content. Just pick and choose from the best. That would be a logical solution and we know that MLB has never considered doing business that way.
"Hats for bats.....keep bats warm." - Pedro Cerrano
"Hey bartender, Jobu needs a refill !!!!!!!" - Eddie Harris
by willie mays hayes' gloves on
Oct 1, 2008 2:29 PM CDT
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Cameron Ks to start the game.
The Chicago Cubs: 2008 Central Division Champions
by dat cubfan daver on Oct 1, 2008 2:10 PM CDT 0 recs
Phillies fans are LOUD AS HELL
The Chicago Cubs: 2008 Central Division Champions
by dat cubfan daver on
Oct 1, 2008 2:13 PM CDT
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I hope so.
Anyone going to game tonight – please take note!
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by dat cubfan daver on
Oct 1, 2008 2:15 PM CDT
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and take a jacket
its gonna be chilly & windy!
There's magic in the ivy...
by halfblindcubbiegirl on
Oct 1, 2008 2:22 PM CDT
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Which
way will the wind be blowing?
-Charlemagne
"Cubs Win!" "Yes, Sir!" - Pat and Ron, June 12, 2008, Walk off HBP, bottom of the 11th
by Charlemagne on
Oct 1, 2008 2:23 PM CDT
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North and changing to NE
But which “way” that is, I have no idea.
I’m just repeating the forecast I heard on Cubscast. :-P
There's magic in the ivy...
by halfblindcubbiegirl on
Oct 1, 2008 2:23 PM CDT
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north would be left field
north east would be center
I hope Dempster is on his stuff and our bats are hot
-Charlemagne
"Cubs Win!" "Yes, Sir!" - Pat and Ron, June 12, 2008, Walk off HBP, bottom of the 11th
by Charlemagne on
Oct 1, 2008 2:26 PM CDT
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yeah
And I hope Lowe’s sinker isn’t sinking.
I heard he was ill. Anyone heard that?
There's magic in the ivy...
by halfblindcubbiegirl on
Oct 1, 2008 2:27 PM CDT
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No, hadn't heard that.
Maybe someone slipped him some bad deep dish.
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by dat cubfan daver on
Oct 1, 2008 2:29 PM CDT
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Some article I read last night
said Lowe had the flu.
There's magic in the ivy...
by halfblindcubbiegirl on
Oct 1, 2008 2:31 PM CDT
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flu=hangover
As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.
by santoswoodenlegs on
Oct 1, 2008 2:31 PM CDT
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To whoever was buying Lowe those tequila shooters last night:
KUDOS!
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by dat cubfan daver on
Oct 1, 2008 2:32 PM CDT
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Weather forecasts
usually have where the wind is “out of”, dont they? In that case, north is in from left, and northeast is in from center.
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by californiachicagoan on
Oct 1, 2008 2:37 PM CDT
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Yep
My next sig line quote will also be from Lou Piniella, and the first word will be either "Look", or "Listen", followed by a comma.
by JohnM on
Oct 1, 2008 3:11 PM CDT
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I hope these two teams beat the living daylights out of each other for 5 games.
"I'm petrified of nipple chafing. Once it starts, it's a vicious circle." Andy Bernard
by TXCub on Oct 1, 2008 2:15 PM CDT 0 recs
...and pull some groins...
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by Zeke on
Oct 1, 2008 2:17 PM CDT
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The Brewers PBP Guy is doing this series
Anyone know if Brenly’s going to do any games this year for TBS?





