Official Discussion Thread: Brewers vs. Phillies Game #1, Wednesday 10/1, 2:00 CT

Go...Brewers?

Feels odd to say after this regular season, but I think I’m in the majority in saying I’d rather play them in the NLCS.

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by neverAcquiesce on Oct 1, 2008 9:32 AM CDT 0 recs

I think the Brewers are riding a bigger “high” right now than the Phillies. If they won the first round of the playoffs, that could be a great motivator for them. In the playoffs, its not necessarily the best teams that win, its the ones that get hot at the right time.

I may be in the minority, but I think I may rather see the Cubs face the Phils. Perhaps Lidge scares me a bit, but their rotation isn’t very good past Hamels. Their line-up is pretty scary but good pitching negates good hitting.

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by DTJchris on Oct 1, 2008 9:40 AM CDT up 0 recs

That lineup scares me, too.

The Brewers & Phillies are both good teams. The Brewers’ bullpen is weak and their rotation in shambles with Sheets out. That said, I hope Milwaukee wins.

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by Al on Oct 1, 2008 9:43 AM CDT up 0 recs

Plus

we’ve played CC exceptionally well two of the three times we’ve faced him.

make*art

by neverAcquiesce on Oct 1, 2008 9:46 AM CDT up 0 recs

Yeah, talk about mixed emotions.

A bitter part of me still wants the Brewers to fail but, undoubtedly, they would be the weaker opponent (on paper). Aside from the Brewers questionable rotation beyond CC and highly suspect bullpen, the Cubs have faced them many more times than they have the Phillies, so I’d assume the scouting report would be much more detailed.

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by dat cubfan daver on Oct 1, 2008 9:48 AM CDT up 0 recs

Trust me on this one.

The Cubs have plenty of scouts at the Phillies/Brewers series.

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by Al on Oct 1, 2008 10:25 AM CDT up 0 recs

Wouldn't the Phillies be that hot motivated team, then, if they win the series?

Seems whoever wins it will go into the NLCS pumped up, just like the winner of our series.

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by JohnM on Oct 1, 2008 10:31 AM CDT up 0 recs

The Phillies clinched a week ago

The Brewers were left for dead in the water and they won the wild card on the last day of the season. I just think that the Brewers are riding a bigger “high”, as I stated above, than the Phillies are and do not want to see their momentum gain by beating the Phillies.

I think the Phillies are the favorite in the series and so they are expected to win. If the Brewers win, they will have defied the odds not just with the Wild Card but then in the NLDS as well. I just don’t want to see the Brewers be this year’s Rockies.

"Prince Fielder Dies Of Inside-The-Park Homerun" - The Onion

by DTJchris on Oct 1, 2008 10:45 AM CDT up 0 recs

Ned Yost Sighting...

Throwing Cheesesteaks at random cars, building up his pitch count.

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by IowaCubs- on Oct 1, 2008 9:36 AM CDT 0 recs

He'll be in the bleachers at Citizens Bank Park, drunk as a skunk and decked out in Philly red and white...

…yelling “Hey, Cecil!” at Prince Fielder and giving Ryan Bran crap every time he strikes out.

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by dat cubfan daver on Oct 1, 2008 9:44 AM CDT up 0 recs

Doubtful

There is a certain thing called playoff and World Series money that Yost still has an interest in and undoubtedly he would be voted a full share. His interest will be for Milwaukee to win without a doubt.

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by krummy12 on Oct 1, 2008 10:13 AM CDT up 0 recs

Do managers and coaches get part of the players' shares?

Anyone know?

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by Al on Oct 1, 2008 10:26 AM CDT up 0 recs

Yes...

…I believe they do, as well as the trainers etc.

This is huge for the guys like the trainers if the team wins it all. They basically make more money with their playoff share, than they do with their entire salary.

"I don't like them fellas that drive in two runs but let in three" Casey Stengel

by MPH73 on Oct 1, 2008 10:31 AM CDT up 0 recs

It was my understanding that coaches get a share but not the manager.

Hey, it's a new century!

by cowsarecool220 on Oct 1, 2008 10:57 AM CDT up 0 recs

I'm not certain...

…but if true, it really makes no sense.

"I don't like them fellas that drive in two runs but let in three" Casey Stengel

by MPH73 on Oct 1, 2008 10:59 AM CDT up 0 recs

That's true but the standard managerial contract has

a built-in bonus escalator for winning the wild-card, division, pennant and WS.

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"Hey bartender, Jobu needs a refill !!!!!!!" - Eddie Harris

by willie mays hayes' gloves on Oct 1, 2008 11:14 AM CDT up 0 recs

Look into those eyes.

Do those look like the eyes of a man who cares about money? His only concern is venting the seething rage and hurt welling up from the bottom of his black, black soul.

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by dat cubfan daver on Oct 1, 2008 10:26 AM CDT up 0 recs

You don’t want to see him with his mask off.

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by NittanyCub on Oct 1, 2008 10:42 AM CDT up 0 recs

Doesn't he also get a ring if they win it all?

by dr stabbingworth on Oct 1, 2008 1:26 PM CDT up 0 recs

I think that ring is staying where it is now.

"Hats for bats.....keep bats warm." - Pedro Cerrano
"Hey bartender, Jobu needs a refill !!!!!!!" - Eddie Harris

by willie mays hayes' gloves on Oct 1, 2008 1:27 PM CDT up 0 recs

He'll be lucky if he gets a ring on his phone.

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by dat cubfan daver on Oct 1, 2008 1:55 PM CDT up 0 recs

Not sure who I'd rather see win

I think the Phillies are going to come out on top in this series though. I just think they are the superior team and will ultimately just play better.

As far as this first game goes, I see it going to the Phillies. Gallardo is a fly ball pitcher and Philadelphia is not a place you want to be giving up fly balls…especially those of the long variety. Hamels is a tough lefty who actually seems to do better against righties due to his awesome change up. I just don’t see this one swinging the Brewers way.

by rambler19 on Oct 1, 2008 9:45 AM CDT 0 recs

personally i don't care who wins..

I just want it to go 5 games so either CC comes back on 3 days rest and Hamels have to pitch game 5..

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by mkcubs21 on Oct 1, 2008 9:48 AM CDT 0 recs

+1

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by dat cubfan daver on Oct 1, 2008 9:48 AM CDT up 0 recs

Exactly.

In addition, I can’t waste any cheering on the Brewers when the Cubs are coming up three hours later.

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by neverAcquiesce on Oct 1, 2008 9:56 AM CDT up 0 recs

extra innings for every game.

"That’s the great thing about baseball, you never know what’s going to happen till you get the final out." — Lou Piniella

by drewishdrewid on Oct 1, 2008 11:40 AM CDT up 0 recs

This has the potential..

…to be a very strange series.

I can see the Phillies having relatively easy wins in games CC doesn’t pitch, but getting shut down by the big guy. This thing could go the full five games, but the run differential could be huge in the Phillies favor.

"I don't like them fellas that drive in two runs but let in three" Casey Stengel

by MPH73 on Oct 1, 2008 10:23 AM CDT 0 recs

im just hoping for good games.

and while it would require a cubs loss for it to happen the potential of 4 playoff baseball games on Sunday makes me downright giddy.

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by mjk83 on Oct 1, 2008 10:41 AM CDT 0 recs

hamels and moyer

scare me. Hamels this year vs. the cubs: 14 ip 0.64 era 0.57 whip .128 baa.

The Brewers ineptitude on defense and the difference between Torres and Lidge make me a definite Brewer fan for the next few days.

bring up felix.

by kylejo on Oct 1, 2008 10:58 AM CDT 0 recs

Brewers, Brewers, Brewers

Most of the reasons have already been mentioned. I’d rather face Salomon Torres than Brad Lidge. I’d rather hit sinking line drives to Braun and Hart than Werth and Victorino. I’d rather have Wrigley and WNorth than just Wrigley.

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by tony412 on Oct 1, 2008 11:18 AM CDT 0 recs

I'm rooting for the Brew Crew as well

all the Phillies strength is LH hitting and since we have a primarily RH staff, i’d rather avoid them

I’d say the Brewers have a better rotation than people are giving credit for here

Sabathia greater than Hamels
Gallardo = Myers
Bush = Moyer
Suppan = Blanton

I still would rather face the Brewers than the Phillies, but I don’t think its a HUGE discrepancy in talent

by DartmouthCubsFan on Oct 1, 2008 11:35 AM CDT 0 recs

I've haven't done much searching but

is this the first time that a pitcher with no decisions has started a post-season game an/or series?

by rlpete on Oct 1, 2008 11:54 AM CDT 0 recs

Al had an answer for that

In today’s other thread.

"I owe [Dunston] a lot. Nobody would know how good I was at digging balls out of the dirt if it wasn't for him..." -Mark Grace
"If [Ruth] had [called his shot], I would have knocked him down with the next pitch." -Charlie Root

by Clutch16 on Oct 1, 2008 12:07 PM CDT up 0 recs

In case you can't go through that...

… Virgil Trucks, 1945 Tigers, 0-0 after coming back from the war, is the only other one at all — but he didn’t start game 1, he started game 2.

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by Al on Oct 1, 2008 1:30 PM CDT up 0 recs

Speaks volumes about the Brewers chances in these playoffs

by IllinoisCubs on Oct 1, 2008 1:50 PM CDT up 0 recs

I'm rooting for a 5 game series with game #5 going about 22 innings...

and at least a dozen players on the winning team sustaining “groin pulls”. (Why is is the word “sustain” is ALWAYS used with “groin pulls”?)

And then the team bus breaks down on the trip to the airport to fly to Chicago.

They have to undergo full body cavity searches because some player made a “smuggling” joke …AND their luggage gets lost.

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by Zeke on Oct 1, 2008 11:55 AM CDT 0 recs

Should read: (Why is it, the word "sustain" is ALWAYS used with "groin pulls"?)

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by Zeke on Oct 1, 2008 11:56 AM CDT up 0 recs

I'm guessing to stave off comments like

“He pulled a groin, hopefully his own.”

"I owe [Dunston] a lot. Nobody would know how good I was at digging balls out of the dirt if it wasn't for him..." -Mark Grace
"If [Ruth] had [called his shot], I would have knocked him down with the next pitch." -Charlie Root

by Clutch16 on Oct 1, 2008 12:11 PM CDT up 0 recs

Burrell might be out with a lower back problem..

Here is the link
http://blogs.jsonline.com/brewers/archive/2008/10/01/burrell-could-be-scratched.aspx

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by MikeOxbyg on Oct 1, 2008 12:45 PM CDT 0 recs

D'oh - that's bad news for the Phils.

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by dat cubfan daver on Oct 1, 2008 1:56 PM CDT up 0 recs

He's gonna play

He’s bettah

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by Lou In Blue on Oct 1, 2008 2:01 PM CDT up 0 recs

OT: Fanposts

How the heck do I get the ‘traditional’ view back as the DEFAULT? So I don’t have to click to get to it each time?

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by sanantonecub on Oct 1, 2008 1:06 PM CDT 0 recs

That's a good question.

I have no idea — the new view is new to us today. Why don’t you email support (at) sbnation (dot) com and ask?

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by Al on Oct 1, 2008 1:31 PM CDT up 0 recs

Game starts in less than five minutes.

Time to boot up mlb.tv.

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by dat cubfan daver on Oct 1, 2008 1:56 PM CDT 0 recs

PBP?

I’m at work, and will be until 6 CT…. weak…

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by Lou In Blue on Oct 1, 2008 2:01 PM CDT up 0 recs

Unfortunately, I'm at work, too...

…so I can’t do PBP. But I’ll try to post updates as often as I can.

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by dat cubfan daver on Oct 1, 2008 2:03 PM CDT up 0 recs

Make that Gameday Audio.

Stupid blackout rules.

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by dat cubfan daver on Oct 1, 2008 2:03 PM CDT up 0 recs

Why the blackout? Isn't it on TV also? I confuse.

"Hats for bats.....keep bats warm." - Pedro Cerrano
"Hey bartender, Jobu needs a refill !!!!!!!" - Eddie Harris

by willie mays hayes' gloves on Oct 1, 2008 2:04 PM CDT up 0 recs

Me too.

I was hoping that, because the games will be televised everywhere, MLB would lift the blackout rules. That would certainly make life easier for married guys like me, whose wives don’t necessarily want to watch the game. Stupid me.

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by dat cubfan daver on Oct 1, 2008 2:09 PM CDT up 0 recs

It looks like

Live Internet video feeds from mlb.com for the games are available overseas, but you can only get the audio feeds domestically. Probably has to do with TBS/Fox not wanting to give up a single set of eyeballs if they can help it.

"I owe [Dunston] a lot. Nobody would know how good I was at digging balls out of the dirt if it wasn't for him..." -Mark Grace
"If [Ruth] had [called his shot], I would have knocked him down with the next pitch." -Charlie Root

by Clutch16 on Oct 1, 2008 2:15 PM CDT up 0 recs

Yeah, that's probably it.

Still sucks.

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by dat cubfan daver on Oct 1, 2008 2:19 PM CDT up 0 recs

You would think they could find a way to satisfy the

TBS/Fox folks since they control the content. Boneheads.

"Hats for bats.....keep bats warm." - Pedro Cerrano
"Hey bartender, Jobu needs a refill !!!!!!!" - Eddie Harris

by willie mays hayes' gloves on Oct 1, 2008 2:23 PM CDT up 0 recs

The way MLB treats their audio/video stuff

is even more irritating (ridiculous?) when you start seeing the way the NFL treats its audio/video.

I can get Bears radio online for free, but not the Cubs? Stupid, Bud. Thats just plain stupid.

There's magic in the ivy...

by halfblindcubbiegirl on Oct 1, 2008 2:25 PM CDT up 0 recs

How do you get the Bears for free...

I thought it was paid just like MLB?

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by MikeOxbyg on Oct 1, 2008 2:29 PM CDT up 0 recs

Nope

you can get Joniak’s feed from Bears.com for free.

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by halfblindcubbiegirl on Oct 1, 2008 2:30 PM CDT up 0 recs

You would think they would look around and

see how the other leagues control their content. Just pick and choose from the best. That would be a logical solution and we know that MLB has never considered doing business that way.

"Hats for bats.....keep bats warm." - Pedro Cerrano
"Hey bartender, Jobu needs a refill !!!!!!!" - Eddie Harris

by willie mays hayes' gloves on Oct 1, 2008 2:29 PM CDT up 0 recs