Overflow Thread 4: NLDS Game #1, Cubs vs. Dodgers, Wednesday 10/1, 5:30 CT
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Boy oh boy...
I keep trying to expect the comeback… But this is just a frustrating game.
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"Every man is guilty of all the good he didn't do."
- Voltaire
by Yepsen on Oct 1, 2008 8:32 PM CDT 0 recs
Z, Harden, Lilly
I hate the possible game one loss..
But having the likes of those guys for games 2,3,4 makes me feel a little better.
by Galvan316 on Oct 1, 2008 8:33 PM CDT 0 recs
Definitely...
It’s just one, and that one isn’t even done yet.
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"Every man is guilty of all the good he didn't do."
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by Yepsen on
Oct 1, 2008 8:33 PM CDT
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well we have had as a great a comeback before
2008 Cubs: Who needs nine innings, when you only need a 7th?
by Chanman25 on Oct 1, 2008 8:34 PM CDT 0 recs
Seriously?
did that really just happen?
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"Every man is guilty of all the good he didn't do."
- Voltaire
by Yepsen on Oct 1, 2008 8:34 PM CDT 0 recs
Losing Game One isn't HORRIBLE
Z, Harden, and Lilly are just as good. The only problem I have with it is that we have to win ONE game at LA
2008 Cubs: Who needs nine innings, when you only need a 7th?
by Chanman25 on Oct 1, 2008 8:35 PM CDT 0 recs
according to history, we have 14% chance of winning this series.
Game one winners in a five game series has gone on to win 24 of 28 series.
Sweet
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by BrewCrew'sPrinceofDarkness on
Oct 1, 2008 8:56 PM CDT
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Well..
I’m pretty sure this Cubs team has defied history many a time during the regular season..
2008 Cubs: Who needs nine innings, when you only need a 7th?
by Chanman25 on
Oct 1, 2008 8:57 PM CDT
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No one ever said it would be easy....
I thought from the beginning that this series would go 5 games and we would win in a squeaker.
Hey, it's a new century!
by cowsarecool220 on
Oct 1, 2008 10:13 PM CDT
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Its real difficult...
…to win any game, when your starter walks 7 in 5 innings. don’t know what the issue was tonight with Dempster, because you would expect him to settle in after getting out of early trouble.
It looked like he was overthrowing his fastball big time, and I guess the importance of the game got to him a bit.
No matter what happens tonight, I’ll stick with my prediction of Cubs in 4.
"I don't like them fellas that drive in two runs but let in three" Casey Stengel
by MPH73 on Oct 1, 2008 8:35 PM CDT 0 recs
The ump wasn't the problem.
No ump should be expected to call strikes that go by the hitters’ eyes.
Pluto will always be a planet to me!
by DaBard on
Oct 1, 2008 8:42 PM CDT
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absolutely correct. his strike zone was identicla for Lowe
Demp has always had a tendency to be wild and was clearly over throwing and aiming tonight
by LuisSalazar on
Oct 1, 2008 8:55 PM CDT
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We need Z to be focused tomorrow
It’ll be a test for him – one I hope to see him ace.
"[Lou Piniella] might be over 100, but he still has a lot of fire in him." - Ted Lilly, Sept. 10, 2008
by CaughtInTheVines on Oct 1, 2008 8:36 PM CDT 0 recs
blehhh
Walking 7 batters you shouldn’t win.
DeRosa = man crush
Soriano = ARod
by FloridaCubsFan on Oct 1, 2008 8:37 PM CDT 0 recs
i'm sorry
but can you at least look at A Rod’s playoff stats before you spout this nonsense?
by tal1286 on
Oct 1, 2008 8:42 PM CDT
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Alfonso Soriano is the key
If he repeats his pathetic performance from the 2007 playoffs against Arizona then this offense and the Cubs are in trouble. Big trouble.
Oh please let this dubious bullpen be good enough in the playoffs...
by MDBNIU on Oct 1, 2008 8:39 PM CDT 0 recs
Don't give Ramirez '07 vs. Arizona a pass
Lee either really. 0 RBIs for those three.
by IllinoisCubs on
Oct 1, 2008 8:42 PM CDT
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Lee couldn't hit a HR in a phone booth these days, to paraphrase Harry--
—the guys is late on 88 MPH fast balls right down the middle—he’s either hurt or he’s totally toast.
by DudeVf11 on
Oct 1, 2008 8:45 PM CDT
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Lee has yet to have a post season RBI for the CUBS
The best defense is a good offense.....Lou Pinella...still hasn't led the Cubs to a post season win
by kcjones on
Oct 1, 2008 9:15 PM CDT
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What do you mean?
He had an opportunity for one every at bat.
Tommie Agee was out.
by Weeghman Park on
Oct 1, 2008 9:17 PM CDT
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TA
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by kcjones on
Oct 1, 2008 9:38 PM CDT
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So exactly how many
homeruns do you expect him to hit tomorrow?
by bheidge on
Oct 1, 2008 9:40 PM CDT
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I expect him to hit zero...
…tomorrow. My point is that he has apparently lost his power, he might as well bat leadoff and le Soriano hit 3rd, at least Lee will work a walk.
by DudeVf11 on
Oct 1, 2008 9:42 PM CDT
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I agree that he lost most of his power
but I was mostly commenting on the RBI comment. Really makes it tough to get RBIS when you have to hit solo shots to get em
by bheidge on
Oct 1, 2008 9:44 PM CDT
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ASk Ramierez and Martin bout that
Mr. 13 HR marrtin..
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by kcjones on
Oct 1, 2008 10:06 PM CDT
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As do a lot of other Cubs..
That stat doesn’t mean squat.
"Whoever wants to know the heart and mind of America had better learn baseball." - Jacque Barzun
by Bump Bailey on
Oct 1, 2008 9:55 PM CDT
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It's more than his disappearing act...
…we still haven’t gotten much if anything from the top 5 in the lineup—and Dempster was terrible. Dempster’s lucky it wasn’t 8-0 by the third inning.
It’s very disappointing to see this kind of lousy play again.
The bottom line is that the Cubs need more better players. It would help if we had one great player.
by DudeVf11 on
Oct 1, 2008 8:42 PM CDT
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Cubs puckered up tonight....
They MUST overcome choking when the limelight is on. And I’ll say it again….Alfonso Soriano must come out of his funk because it has been demonstrated time and time again that when he hits it has big domino effect on this lineup.
Oh please let this dubious bullpen be good enough in the playoffs...
by MDBNIU on
Oct 1, 2008 8:43 PM CDT
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Agree....
If he’s hot he can carry the team on his back…
"Whoever wants to know the heart and mind of America had better learn baseball." - Jacque Barzun
by Bump Bailey on
Oct 1, 2008 8:47 PM CDT
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We've all noted,
you’ve jumped on to the thread when the Cubs are losing.
Hey, it's a new century!
by cowsarecool220 on
Oct 1, 2008 8:43 PM CDT
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They're terrible...
Not exactly breaking news though.
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- Voltaire
by Yepsen on
Oct 1, 2008 8:40 PM CDT
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Agreed!
TBS coverage absolutely blows. They should at least act like they give a hoot that they are covering the playoffs. Please put this back on on one of the major networks or even ESPN.
by DudeVf11 on
Oct 1, 2008 8:43 PM CDT
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Even Joe Morgan might be an improvement..
then again, maybe not..
"Whoever wants to know the heart and mind of America had better learn baseball." - Jacque Barzun
by Bump Bailey on
Oct 1, 2008 8:44 PM CDT
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Ron Darling is fine.
Agreed on the others. And Harold Reynolds is the truth, too bad he’s assigned to other games.
by Orval Overall on
Oct 1, 2008 8:45 PM CDT
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Tony Gwynn isnt all bad. I like him
but his voice is annoying
by bheidge on
Oct 1, 2008 9:19 PM CDT
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I really like Reynolds too...
Last night was the first time I’ve heard him in awhile….what a breath of fresh air!
"Whoever wants to know the heart and mind of America had better learn baseball." - Jacque Barzun
by Bump Bailey on
Oct 1, 2008 9:56 PM CDT
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Turn down the volume on the TV and listen to MLB on the computer
Or really…is the sound that important?
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by kcjones on
Oct 1, 2008 9:16 PM CDT
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Or santo on XM
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by kcjones on
Oct 1, 2008 9:17 PM CDT
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watch it...
He may not be smooth announcer, but he’s an icon as far as I’m concerned.
"Whoever wants to know the heart and mind of America had better learn baseball." - Jacque Barzun
by Bump Bailey on
Oct 1, 2008 9:24 PM CDT
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Actually Gwynn isn't bad...
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by kcjones on
Oct 1, 2008 9:37 PM CDT
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do you know what his voice sounds like in
surround sound? Obviously not
by bheidge on
Oct 1, 2008 9:38 PM CDT
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Better than Stockton's....
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by kcjones on
Oct 1, 2008 9:40 PM CDT
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Stocktons voice
isnt as annoying as the words that make it
by bheidge on
Oct 1, 2008 9:41 PM CDT
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Kinda remindds me of Walter
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by kcjones on
Oct 1, 2008 9:40 PM CDT
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Walter who?
Payton? Jacobson? Cronkite?
"Whoever wants to know the heart and mind of America had better learn baseball." - Jacque Barzun
by Bump Bailey on
Oct 1, 2008 9:59 PM CDT
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#34
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by kcjones on
Oct 1, 2008 10:03 PM CDT
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Sure did...
Greatest all around back ever.
"Whoever wants to know the heart and mind of America had better learn baseball." - Jacque Barzun
by Bump Bailey on
Oct 1, 2008 10:06 PM CDT
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I put him and Emmitt Smith in the same category by themselves.
They would just as soon run over you as a tackler as try to run around you. Walter could do both; was better at moving around and Emmitt better at just taking the tackler out but the same mental intensity towards an impending collision between 250 pound men running at full speed.
Tommie Agee was out.
by Weeghman Park on
Oct 1, 2008 10:13 PM CDT
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Never saw him play...
but watching film, I’d put Jim Brown in that catagory too. But if you include blocking, receiving, even passing, (I think he threw about 10 TD passes) Walter stands alone.
"Whoever wants to know the heart and mind of America had better learn baseball." - Jacque Barzun
by Bump Bailey on
Oct 1, 2008 10:19 PM CDT
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I see what you mean...
Walter’s voice was a little higher pitched tho….Damn, I miss him!
"Whoever wants to know the heart and mind of America had better learn baseball." - Jacque Barzun
by Bump Bailey on
Oct 1, 2008 10:05 PM CDT
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AMEN
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by kcjones on
Oct 1, 2008 10:09 PM CDT
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Such an athlete and gentleman
He was the kind of sports hero you want your kids to have as a role model instead of these folks now. When people talk about Chicago sports you always hear about Ernie Banks and Michael Jordan and Mike Ditka (and I like them as role modesl) but it seems like we’ve all forgotten Walter was the team for a quite a while. Yeah, I miss him too, in the same way we will miss Santo some day hopefully far far off in the future.
Tommie Agee was out.
by Weeghman Park on
Oct 1, 2008 10:09 PM CDT
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BEST EVER
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by kcjones on
Oct 1, 2008 10:11 PM CDT
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Well said my friend!
I’m still a little pissed at Ditka for not giving Walter the ball near the goal line in the Super Bowl. And I sure hope Ronny gets in the HOF before he leaves us.
"Whoever wants to know the heart and mind of America had better learn baseball." - Jacque Barzun
by Bump Bailey on
Oct 1, 2008 10:14 PM CDT
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Tear wipe...tear wipe...
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by kcjones on
Oct 1, 2008 10:25 PM CDT
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It's that time of the night when you're tired and upset about the outcome of tonights game and had a few drinks of choice to gain perspective
but I do wish #34 could have scored a touchdown that game. I wish I had had an opportunity to meet him. I do desperately wish Ron gets in the HOF this time. I hope he, and we, get to see that first Cubs WS flag but even if that never happens, he should be in the HOF. That’s just good old boy gamesmanship who don’t want certain people in their little club.
Going to go up to bed and watch the rest of the boring ALDS game in bed so I can just fall asleep. Better execution and intensity tomorrow night. Luck doesn’t have anything to do with it.
Tommie Agee was out.
by Weeghman Park on
Oct 1, 2008 10:34 PM CDT
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Agree with all that...
Good night and sweet Cubbie dreams!
"Whoever wants to know the heart and mind of America had better learn baseball." - Jacque Barzun
by Bump Bailey on
Oct 1, 2008 10:37 PM CDT
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Absolutely no sarcasm on my part...
Thanks for putting some of my feelings into words…
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by kcjones on
Oct 1, 2008 10:37 PM CDT
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Yep..
Even Ditka, last I heard him speak of it, feels pretty crappy now about the way he handled it.
"Whoever wants to know the heart and mind of America had better learn baseball." - Jacque Barzun
by Bump Bailey on
Oct 1, 2008 10:40 PM CDT
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Thank you both for understanding
Some treat every topic on here as a light hearted joke opportunity but some of our experiences and emotions are a little more complicated and mature than a high school jock life. When you are experiencing significant stressfull times (such as this post season for us) its as stressful as getting married or having a baby or having a death in the family or buying a business. that just means you tend to start thinking about the things that are really important to you as a person. These sports relationships mimic personal ones and can be very satisfying or horrilbly disappointing.
I’m desinging what and who I want to be in my version of heaven to be and its going to be a nice little social group of my favorite Cubs and Bears and Denver Broncos. We’re going to play schoolyard versions of the sports, bet on horse races, and do the NCAA brackets. We’re going to drink scotch and gin and chanpagne constatntly and have personal nurses to give us an IV drip do we don’t get dehydrated.
We’re going to race fast cars against each other and go fishing everyday. But the main event will be like the scene in Field of Dreams where the players from different time periods get to play again and really play. And what makes it heaven for me is that I get to participate in those games with my heroes and hold my own. and then I’ll know what is so funny about the joke Demspter tells to the pitchers shagging flies at batting practice or what Lou thinks sorianao should concentrate on to stay of the low sliders in the dirt. What we want is to be on and in that social team of those guys rather than observers fans looking in. And that would be my heaven.
Tommie Agee was out.
by Weeghman Park on
Oct 1, 2008 10:56 PM CDT
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Louder?
"Whoever wants to know the heart and mind of America had better learn baseball." - Jacque Barzun
by Bump Bailey on
Oct 1, 2008 9:57 PM CDT
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Looks that way..
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by Bump Bailey on
Oct 1, 2008 8:41 PM CDT
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Which Lilly were starting ahead of game 4 with all those Dodger lefty hitters
Oh please let this dubious bullpen be good enough in the playoffs...
by MDBNIU on Oct 1, 2008 8:40 PM CDT 0 recs
Heres to a 5 run 9th
and Geo is gonna get the game tying 3 run HR
by cubsfaninatl on Oct 1, 2008 8:41 PM CDT 0 recs
maddog pitching bottom of the 9th....that seems wrong somehow to have him
pitching for the other team
GoCubsGo
by MinnesotaFan on Oct 1, 2008 8:41 PM CDT 0 recs
because we are Cub fans
"This is a game to be savored, not gulped. There's time to discuss everything between pitches or between innings." -- Bill Veeck
by MOCubsfan on
Oct 1, 2008 8:42 PM CDT
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Because the Cubs do this to us
for the past 100 years
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