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Overflow Thread 4: NLDS Game #1, Cubs vs. Dodgers, Wednesday 10/1, 5:30 CT

"You see, you spend a good piece of your life gripping a baseball, and in the end it turns out that it was the other way around all the time." -- Jim Bouton

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Boy oh boy...

I keep trying to expect the comeback… But this is just a frustrating game.

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"Every man is guilty of all the good he didn't do."
- Voltaire

by Yepsen on Oct 1, 2008 8:32 PM CDT reply actions  

Z, Harden, Lilly

I hate the possible game one loss..

But having the likes of those guys for games 2,3,4 makes me feel a little better.

by Galvan316 on Oct 1, 2008 8:33 PM CDT reply actions  

Definitely...

It’s just one, and that one isn’t even done yet.

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"Every man is guilty of all the good he didn't do."
- Voltaire

by Yepsen on Oct 1, 2008 8:33 PM CDT up reply actions  

I agree.

Believe or Leave ~Cubswynn 9/9/2008

by slcathena on Oct 1, 2008 8:42 PM CDT up reply actions  

well we have had as a great a comeback before

2008 Cubs: Who needs nine innings, when you only need a 7th?

by Chanman25 on Oct 1, 2008 8:34 PM CDT reply actions  

Seriously?

did that really just happen?

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"Every man is guilty of all the good he didn't do."
- Voltaire

by Yepsen on Oct 1, 2008 8:34 PM CDT reply actions  

Losing Game One isn't HORRIBLE

Z, Harden, and Lilly are just as good. The only problem I have with it is that we have to win ONE game at LA

2008 Cubs: Who needs nine innings, when you only need a 7th?

by Chanman25 on Oct 1, 2008 8:35 PM CDT reply actions  

according to history, we have 14% chance of winning this series.

Game one winners in a five game series has gone on to win 24 of 28 series.

Sweet

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by BrewCrew'sPrinceofDarkness on Oct 1, 2008 8:56 PM CDT up reply actions  

Well..

I’m pretty sure this Cubs team has defied history many a time during the regular season..

2008 Cubs: Who needs nine innings, when you only need a 7th?

by Chanman25 on Oct 1, 2008 8:57 PM CDT up reply actions  

No one ever said it would be easy....

I thought from the beginning that this series would go 5 games and we would win in a squeaker.

Hey, it's a new century!

by cowsarecool220 on Oct 1, 2008 10:13 PM CDT up reply actions  

Its real difficult...

…to win any game, when your starter walks 7 in 5 innings. don’t know what the issue was tonight with Dempster, because you would expect him to settle in after getting out of early trouble.

It looked like he was overthrowing his fastball big time, and I guess the importance of the game got to him a bit.

No matter what happens tonight, I’ll stick with my prediction of Cubs in 4.

"I don't like them fellas that drive in two runs but let in three" Casey Stengel

by MPH73 on Oct 1, 2008 8:35 PM CDT reply actions  

The ump wasn't the problem.

No ump should be expected to call strikes that go by the hitters’ eyes.

Pluto will always be a planet to me!

by DaBard on Oct 1, 2008 8:42 PM CDT up reply actions  

absolutely correct. his strike zone was identicla for Lowe

Demp has always had a tendency to be wild and was clearly over throwing and aiming tonight

by LuisSalazar on Oct 1, 2008 8:55 PM CDT up reply actions  

We need Z to be focused tomorrow

It’ll be a test for him – one I hope to see him ace.

"[Lou Piniella] might be over 100, but he still has a lot of fire in him." - Ted Lilly, Sept. 10, 2008

by CaughtInTheVines on Oct 1, 2008 8:36 PM CDT reply actions  

blehhh

Walking 7 batters you shouldn’t win.

DeRosa = man crush

Soriano = ARod

by FloridaCubsFan on Oct 1, 2008 8:37 PM CDT reply actions  

i'm sorry

but can you at least look at A Rod’s playoff stats before you spout this nonsense?

by tal1286 on Oct 1, 2008 8:42 PM CDT up reply actions  

correction

it should be ARod > Soriano

by FloridaCubsFan on Oct 1, 2008 8:46 PM CDT up reply actions  

Alfonso Soriano is the key

If he repeats his pathetic performance from the 2007 playoffs against Arizona then this offense and the Cubs are in trouble. Big trouble.

Oh please let this dubious bullpen be good enough in the playoffs...

by MDBNIU on Oct 1, 2008 8:39 PM CDT reply actions  

Lee couldn't hit a HR in a phone booth these days, to paraphrase Harry--

—the guys is late on 88 MPH fast balls right down the middle—he’s either hurt or he’s totally toast.

by DudeVf11 on Oct 1, 2008 8:45 PM CDT up reply actions  

Lee has yet to have a post season RBI for the CUBS

The best defense is a good offense.....Lou Pinella...still hasn't led the Cubs to a post season win

by kcjones on Oct 1, 2008 9:15 PM CDT up reply actions  

What do you mean?

He had an opportunity for one every at bat.

Tommie Agee was out.

by Weeghman Park on Oct 1, 2008 9:17 PM CDT up reply actions  

TA

The best defense is a good offense.....Lou Pinella...still hasn't led the Cubs to a post season win

by kcjones on Oct 1, 2008 9:38 PM CDT up reply actions  

So exactly how many

homeruns do you expect him to hit tomorrow?

by bheidge on Oct 1, 2008 9:40 PM CDT up reply actions  

I expect him to hit zero...

…tomorrow. My point is that he has apparently lost his power, he might as well bat leadoff and le Soriano hit 3rd, at least Lee will work a walk.

by DudeVf11 on Oct 1, 2008 9:42 PM CDT up reply actions  

I agree that he lost most of his power

but I was mostly commenting on the RBI comment. Really makes it tough to get RBIS when you have to hit solo shots to get em

by bheidge on Oct 1, 2008 9:44 PM CDT up reply actions  

ASk Ramierez and Martin bout that

Mr. 13 HR marrtin..

The best defense is a good offense.....Lou Pinella...still hasn't led the Cubs to a post season win

by kcjones on Oct 1, 2008 10:06 PM CDT up reply actions  

As do a lot of other Cubs..

That stat doesn’t mean squat.

"Whoever wants to know the heart and mind of America had better learn baseball." - Jacque Barzun

by Bump Bailey on Oct 1, 2008 9:55 PM CDT up reply actions  

It's more than his disappearing act...

…we still haven’t gotten much if anything from the top 5 in the lineup—and Dempster was terrible. Dempster’s lucky it wasn’t 8-0 by the third inning.

It’s very disappointing to see this kind of lousy play again.

The bottom line is that the Cubs need more better players. It would help if we had one great player.

by DudeVf11 on Oct 1, 2008 8:42 PM CDT up reply actions  

Cubs puckered up tonight....

They MUST overcome choking when the limelight is on. And I’ll say it again….Alfonso Soriano must come out of his funk because it has been demonstrated time and time again that when he hits it has big domino effect on this lineup.

Oh please let this dubious bullpen be good enough in the playoffs...

by MDBNIU on Oct 1, 2008 8:43 PM CDT up reply actions  

Agree....

If he’s hot he can carry the team on his back…

"Whoever wants to know the heart and mind of America had better learn baseball." - Jacque Barzun

by Bump Bailey on Oct 1, 2008 8:47 PM CDT up reply actions  

We've all noted,

you’ve jumped on to the thread when the Cubs are losing.

Hey, it's a new century!

by cowsarecool220 on Oct 1, 2008 8:43 PM CDT up reply actions  

They're terrible...

Not exactly breaking news though.

--
"Every man is guilty of all the good he didn't do."
- Voltaire

by Yepsen on Oct 1, 2008 8:40 PM CDT up reply actions  

Agreed!

TBS coverage absolutely blows. They should at least act like they give a hoot that they are covering the playoffs. Please put this back on on one of the major networks or even ESPN.

by DudeVf11 on Oct 1, 2008 8:43 PM CDT up reply actions  

Even Joe Morgan might be an improvement..

then again, maybe not..

"Whoever wants to know the heart and mind of America had better learn baseball." - Jacque Barzun

by Bump Bailey on Oct 1, 2008 8:44 PM CDT up reply actions  

Ron Darling is fine.

Agreed on the others. And Harold Reynolds is the truth, too bad he’s assigned to other games.

by Orval Overall on Oct 1, 2008 8:45 PM CDT up reply actions  

I really like Reynolds too...

Last night was the first time I’ve heard him in awhile….what a breath of fresh air!

"Whoever wants to know the heart and mind of America had better learn baseball." - Jacque Barzun

by Bump Bailey on Oct 1, 2008 9:56 PM CDT up reply actions  

Turn down the volume on the TV and listen to MLB on the computer

Or really…is the sound that important?

The best defense is a good offense.....Lou Pinella...still hasn't led the Cubs to a post season win

by kcjones on Oct 1, 2008 9:16 PM CDT up reply actions  

Or santo on XM

The best defense is a good offense.....Lou Pinella...still hasn't led the Cubs to a post season win

by kcjones on Oct 1, 2008 9:17 PM CDT up reply actions  

watch it...

He may not be smooth announcer, but he’s an icon as far as I’m concerned.

"Whoever wants to know the heart and mind of America had better learn baseball." - Jacque Barzun

by Bump Bailey on Oct 1, 2008 9:24 PM CDT up reply actions  

Actually Gwynn isn't bad...

The best defense is a good offense.....Lou Pinella...still hasn't led the Cubs to a post season win

by kcjones on Oct 1, 2008 9:37 PM CDT up reply actions  

Better than Stockton's....

The best defense is a good offense.....Lou Pinella...still hasn't led the Cubs to a post season win

by kcjones on Oct 1, 2008 9:40 PM CDT up reply actions  

Stocktons voice

isnt as annoying as the words that make it

by bheidge on Oct 1, 2008 9:41 PM CDT up reply actions  

Kinda remindds me of Walter

The best defense is a good offense.....Lou Pinella...still hasn't led the Cubs to a post season win

by kcjones on Oct 1, 2008 9:40 PM CDT up reply actions  

Walter who?

Payton? Jacobson? Cronkite?

"Whoever wants to know the heart and mind of America had better learn baseball." - Jacque Barzun

by Bump Bailey on Oct 1, 2008 9:59 PM CDT up reply actions  

#34

The best defense is a good offense.....Lou Pinella...still hasn't led the Cubs to a post season win

by kcjones on Oct 1, 2008 10:03 PM CDT up reply actions  

Sure did...

Greatest all around back ever.

"Whoever wants to know the heart and mind of America had better learn baseball." - Jacque Barzun

by Bump Bailey on Oct 1, 2008 10:06 PM CDT up reply actions  

I put him and Emmitt Smith in the same category by themselves.

They would just as soon run over you as a tackler as try to run around you. Walter could do both; was better at moving around and Emmitt better at just taking the tackler out but the same mental intensity towards an impending collision between 250 pound men running at full speed.

Tommie Agee was out.

by Weeghman Park on Oct 1, 2008 10:13 PM CDT up reply actions  

Never saw him play...

but watching film, I’d put Jim Brown in that catagory too. But if you include blocking, receiving, even passing, (I think he threw about 10 TD passes) Walter stands alone.

"Whoever wants to know the heart and mind of America had better learn baseball." - Jacque Barzun

by Bump Bailey on Oct 1, 2008 10:19 PM CDT up reply actions  

I see what you mean...

Walter’s voice was a little higher pitched tho….Damn, I miss him!

"Whoever wants to know the heart and mind of America had better learn baseball." - Jacque Barzun

by Bump Bailey on Oct 1, 2008 10:05 PM CDT up reply actions  

AMEN

The best defense is a good offense.....Lou Pinella...still hasn't led the Cubs to a post season win

by kcjones on Oct 1, 2008 10:09 PM CDT up reply actions  

Such an athlete and gentleman

He was the kind of sports hero you want your kids to have as a role model instead of these folks now. When people talk about Chicago sports you always hear about Ernie Banks and Michael Jordan and Mike Ditka (and I like them as role modesl) but it seems like we’ve all forgotten Walter was the team for a quite a while. Yeah, I miss him too, in the same way we will miss Santo some day hopefully far far off in the future.

Tommie Agee was out.

by Weeghman Park on Oct 1, 2008 10:09 PM CDT up reply actions  

BEST EVER

The best defense is a good offense.....Lou Pinella...still hasn't led the Cubs to a post season win

by kcjones on Oct 1, 2008 10:11 PM CDT up reply actions  

Well said my friend!

I’m still a little pissed at Ditka for not giving Walter the ball near the goal line in the Super Bowl. And I sure hope Ronny gets in the HOF before he leaves us.

"Whoever wants to know the heart and mind of America had better learn baseball." - Jacque Barzun

by Bump Bailey on Oct 1, 2008 10:14 PM CDT up reply actions  

Tear wipe...tear wipe...

The best defense is a good offense.....Lou Pinella...still hasn't led the Cubs to a post season win

by kcjones on Oct 1, 2008 10:25 PM CDT up reply actions  

It's that time of the night when you're tired and upset about the outcome of tonights game and had a few drinks of choice to gain perspective

but I do wish #34 could have scored a touchdown that game. I wish I had had an opportunity to meet him. I do desperately wish Ron gets in the HOF this time. I hope he, and we, get to see that first Cubs WS flag but even if that never happens, he should be in the HOF. That’s just good old boy gamesmanship who don’t want certain people in their little club.

Going to go up to bed and watch the rest of the boring ALDS game in bed so I can just fall asleep. Better execution and intensity tomorrow night. Luck doesn’t have anything to do with it.

Tommie Agee was out.

by Weeghman Park on Oct 1, 2008 10:34 PM CDT up reply actions  

Agree with all that...

Good night and sweet Cubbie dreams!

"Whoever wants to know the heart and mind of America had better learn baseball." - Jacque Barzun

by Bump Bailey on Oct 1, 2008 10:37 PM CDT up reply actions  

Absolutely no sarcasm on my part...

Thanks for putting some of my feelings into words…

The best defense is a good offense.....Lou Pinella...still hasn't led the Cubs to a post season win

by kcjones on Oct 1, 2008 10:37 PM CDT up reply actions  

Yep..

Even Ditka, last I heard him speak of it, feels pretty crappy now about the way he handled it.

"Whoever wants to know the heart and mind of America had better learn baseball." - Jacque Barzun

by Bump Bailey on Oct 1, 2008 10:40 PM CDT up reply actions  

Thank you both for understanding

Some treat every topic on here as a light hearted joke opportunity but some of our experiences and emotions are a little more complicated and mature than a high school jock life. When you are experiencing significant stressfull times (such as this post season for us) its as stressful as getting married or having a baby or having a death in the family or buying a business. that just means you tend to start thinking about the things that are really important to you as a person. These sports relationships mimic personal ones and can be very satisfying or horrilbly disappointing.

 I’m desinging what and who I want to be in my version of heaven to be and its going to be a nice little social group of my favorite Cubs and Bears and Denver Broncos. We’re going to play schoolyard versions of the sports, bet on horse races, and do the NCAA brackets. We’re going to drink scotch and gin and chanpagne constatntly and have personal nurses to give us an IV drip do we don’t get dehydrated.

We’re going to race fast cars against each other and go fishing everyday. But the main event will be like the scene in Field of Dreams where the players from different time periods get to play again and really play. And what makes it heaven for me is that I get to participate in those games with my heroes and hold my own. and then I’ll know what is so funny about the joke Demspter tells to the pitchers shagging flies at batting practice or what Lou thinks sorianao should concentrate on to stay of the low sliders in the dirt. What we want is to be on and in that social team of those guys rather than observers fans looking in. And that would be my heaven.

Tommie Agee was out.

by Weeghman Park on Oct 1, 2008 10:56 PM CDT up reply actions  

Louder?

"Whoever wants to know the heart and mind of America had better learn baseball." - Jacque Barzun

by Bump Bailey on Oct 1, 2008 9:57 PM CDT up reply actions  

Looks that way..

"Whoever wants to know the heart and mind of America had better learn baseball." - Jacque Barzun

by Bump Bailey on Oct 1, 2008 8:41 PM CDT up reply actions  

Which Lilly were starting ahead of game 4 with all those Dodger lefty hitters

Oh please let this dubious bullpen be good enough in the playoffs...

by MDBNIU on Oct 1, 2008 8:40 PM CDT reply actions  

Heres to a 5 run 9th

and Geo is gonna get the game tying 3 run HR

by cubsfaninatl on Oct 1, 2008 8:41 PM CDT reply actions  

its game one but....

why do we do this to ourselves?

by MJMars on Oct 1, 2008 8:41 PM CDT reply actions  

because we are Cub fans

"This is a game to be savored, not gulped. There's time to discuss everything between pitches or between innings." -- Bill Veeck

by MOCubsfan on Oct 1, 2008 8:42 PM CDT up reply actions  

Because we know what's going to happen.

We try to convince ourselves that things will be different, but in the end we keep getting smacked in the face.

And yet, for some reason, we still come back for more; hoping again that things will finally change.

That is why we are Cubs fans.

by rrtycoon2 on Oct 1, 2008 8:44 PM CDT up reply actions  

stop

reminding me…

D-LEE!

by airweino on Oct 1, 2008 8:53 PM CDT up reply actions  

They are NOT bringing Maddox in. :(

I can’t take this.

Believe or Leave ~Cubswynn 9/9/2008

by slcathena on Oct 1, 2008 8:42 PM CDT reply actions  

salt on the wound.

:(

"This is a game to be savored, not gulped. There's time to discuss everything between pitches or between innings." -- Bill Veeck

by MOCubsfan on Oct 1, 2008 8:43 PM CDT up reply actions  

Yep.

I’m going to bed.

I’ll be back and chipper tomorrow, and ready to go. This is just mean.

Believe or Leave ~Cubswynn 9/9/2008

by slcathena on Oct 1, 2008 8:43 PM CDT up reply actions  

seems very wrong to make me root against Greg

"This is a game to be savored, not gulped. There's time to discuss everything between pitches or between innings." -- Bill Veeck

by MOCubsfan on Oct 1, 2008 8:45 PM CDT up reply actions  

4 in a row

Lou is 0 and 4 in post game now.

by CubFan69 on Oct 1, 2008 8:42 PM CDT reply actions  

Could be another sweep...

…at least we won’t lose the final game at home at this rate.

by DudeVf11 on Oct 1, 2008 8:44 PM CDT up reply actions  

Just with the Cubs.

"Whoever wants to know the heart and mind of America had better learn baseball." - Jacque Barzun

by Bump Bailey on Oct 1, 2008 8:45 PM CDT up reply actions  

How'd he do with that 116 win Seattle team?

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by kcjones on Oct 1, 2008 9:18 PM CDT up reply actions  

How'd he do with the '90 Reds?

against the unbeatable Oakland A’s..

"Whoever wants to know the heart and mind of America had better learn baseball." - Jacque Barzun

by Bump Bailey on Oct 1, 2008 9:21 PM CDT up reply actions  

Rijo....

Is Zambrano the next Rijo?

The best defense is a good offense.....Lou Pinella...still hasn't led the Cubs to a post season win

by kcjones on Oct 1, 2008 9:34 PM CDT up reply actions  

That would be sweet if he was!

"Whoever wants to know the heart and mind of America had better learn baseball." - Jacque Barzun

by Bump Bailey on Oct 1, 2008 9:43 PM CDT up reply actions  

That team was a ddog BTW

The best defense is a good offense.....Lou Pinella...still hasn't led the Cubs to a post season win

by kcjones on Oct 1, 2008 9:34 PM CDT up reply actions  

Lou can't pitch for Dempster or hit for the "superstars" in the lineup

Those “win one for the Gipper” speeches only go so far and mostly work just in the movies.

Oh please let this dubious bullpen be good enough in the playoffs...

by MDBNIU on Oct 1, 2008 8:48 PM CDT up reply actions  

No...but he could use the regular seasson more as a marathon than a sprint

The best defense is a good offense.....Lou Pinella...still hasn't led the Cubs to a post season win

by kcjones on Oct 1, 2008 9:18 PM CDT up reply actions  

what started out as upsetting

is now actually quite funny. We had 97 wins. A 17 game winner for game one. And still nothing. All year long people have been saying how great this team is. All I can do is watch and realize the deer in the headlights look every Cub batter seems to have. This team needs a few drinks. A steroid of some type. Can Lee Elia come down and go off for a few minutes?

by cedarpip on Oct 1, 2008 8:42 PM CDT reply actions  

Correction

This team We needs a few drinks.

by IllinoisCubs on Oct 1, 2008 8:44 PM CDT up reply actions  

LOL

On my 8th Leinie Red….with a few shots of Jaeger thrown down too.

"Whoever wants to know the heart and mind of America had better learn baseball." - Jacque Barzun

by Bump Bailey on Oct 1, 2008 8:46 PM CDT up reply actions  

Couldn't stand the tension...

went to walk the dog……come back and turn on the radio to hear “Marquis delivers the pitch”……I knew this couldn’t be a good thing.

"Whoever wants to know the heart and mind of America had better learn baseball." - Jacque Barzun

by Bump Bailey on Oct 1, 2008 8:43 PM CDT reply actions  

A minor victory

Would be for the Cubs to force Maddux out after a couple of runs . . . at least we could burn him so he can’t be used tomorrow.

by TheNextCubsVoice on Oct 1, 2008 8:45 PM CDT reply actions  

doubters are out in FULL force

2008 Cubs: Who needs nine innings, when you only need a 7th?

by Chanman25 on Oct 1, 2008 8:46 PM CDT reply actions  

You ok Sue?

I had to go away for awhile…

"Whoever wants to know the heart and mind of America had better learn baseball." - Jacque Barzun

by Bump Bailey on Oct 1, 2008 8:48 PM CDT up reply actions  

I'll be ok.

May not be in here tomorrow night. Can’t take all the negative crap.

by sue369 on Oct 1, 2008 8:51 PM CDT up reply actions  

I know what you mean...

but I hope you’re here….you’re the voice of reason most nights.

"Whoever wants to know the heart and mind of America had better learn baseball." - Jacque Barzun

by Bump Bailey on Oct 1, 2008 8:52 PM CDT up reply actions  

Thanks.

Hopefully we are winning and the others will disappear. :D

by sue369 on Oct 1, 2008 8:54 PM CDT up reply actions  

My kingdom for that!

"Whoever wants to know the heart and mind of America had better learn baseball." - Jacque Barzun

by Bump Bailey on Oct 1, 2008 8:57 PM CDT up reply actions  

do you expect me to be chiiper and

happy at a time like this?? dont give me “its only game 1” either, this hurts

"Every player should be accorded the privilege of at least one season with the Chicago Cubs. That's baseball as it should be played - in God's own sunshine. And that's really living." --Alvin Dark

by preachermancubsfan on Oct 1, 2008 8:48 PM CDT up reply actions  

Keep the faith preacherman...

no one should know that better than you..:)

"Whoever wants to know the heart and mind of America had better learn baseball." - Jacque Barzun

by Bump Bailey on Oct 1, 2008 8:49 PM CDT up reply actions  

this definitely hurts

but if you just bitch about it its only gonna make it feel worse. you just have to shrug it off.

2008 Cubs: Who needs nine innings, when you only need a 7th?

by Chanman25 on Oct 1, 2008 8:50 PM CDT up reply actions  

Well said Chanman.

"Whoever wants to know the heart and mind of America had better learn baseball." - Jacque Barzun

by Bump Bailey on Oct 1, 2008 8:50 PM CDT up reply actions  

you really shouldnt tell people how to feel,

this isnt argueing about who should play a certain position…and please point out to me where i was “bitching”

"Every player should be accorded the privilege of at least one season with the Chicago Cubs. That's baseball as it should be played - in God's own sunshine. And that's really living." --Alvin Dark

by preachermancubsfan on Oct 1, 2008 8:51 PM CDT up reply actions  

I don't think he

was calling you out. If you had been in the other threads you would know what he meant.

by sue369 on Oct 1, 2008 8:53 PM CDT up reply actions  

probably, i just think its stupid for someone to

tell someone how to “feel”

"Every player should be accorded the privilege of at least one season with the Chicago Cubs. That's baseball as it should be played - in God's own sunshine. And that's really living." --Alvin Dark

by preachermancubsfan on Oct 1, 2008 8:54 PM CDT up reply actions  

its cool man...

i understand

"Every player should be accorded the privilege of at least one season with the Chicago Cubs. That's baseball as it should be played - in God's own sunshine. And that's really living." --Alvin Dark

by preachermancubsfan on Oct 1, 2008 8:55 PM CDT up reply actions  

Don't think he was talking about you specifically.

More like he was talking about all the bitching in the previous theads.

"Whoever wants to know the heart and mind of America had better learn baseball." - Jacque Barzun

by Bump Bailey on Oct 1, 2008 8:55 PM CDT up reply actions  

It's natural instinct

After 31 years of being a diehard I have a certain resignation about things. I’m sick and tired of talk of our superiority on paper all the time. This is a big payroll team that needs to step up at crunch time. What we have seen tonight is horrific rerun of the 3 game series against Arizona where, again, we were the vastly superior team on paper and managed to have the Augie Ojedas beat our brains in.

Oh please let this dubious bullpen be good enough in the playoffs...

by MDBNIU on Oct 1, 2008 8:50 PM CDT up reply actions  

your 31?

wow. I would have guessed 14-15.

by bheidge on Oct 1, 2008 8:51 PM CDT up reply actions  

I'm 45

Oh please let this dubious bullpen be good enough in the playoffs...

by MDBNIU on Oct 1, 2008 8:52 PM CDT up reply actions  

Yeah, but...

Being a fan that long, you more than most should realize what a crapshoot the playoffs are. Just getting here is a big hurdle. IMO, anything else is gravy and depends too much on luck for my taste.

"Whoever wants to know the heart and mind of America had better learn baseball." - Jacque Barzun

by Bump Bailey on Oct 1, 2008 9:00 PM CDT up reply actions  

That's a start

"Whoever wants to know the heart and mind of America had better learn baseball." - Jacque Barzun

by Bump Bailey on Oct 1, 2008 8:46 PM CDT reply actions  

Come on Maddux.

Could you just give us one run to soothe our sadness?

by rrtycoon2 on Oct 1, 2008 8:46 PM CDT reply actions  

The bright side

A game like this is less painful than a blown save, followed by an extra inning loss, having left 10 RISP.

"Earthly fame is naught but a breath of wind, which now comes hence and now comes thence, changing its name because it changes quarter." -- Dante, Purgatorio, Canto XI

by sweetswinger on Oct 1, 2008 8:47 PM CDT reply actions  

Good call, Blue

And a tough one. . . easy to react for the automatic out, and he NEARLY did.

by TheNextCubsVoice on Oct 1, 2008 8:47 PM CDT reply actions  

Theriot gets on there ya go!

2008 Cubs: Who needs nine innings, when you only need a 7th?

by Chanman25 on Oct 1, 2008 8:47 PM CDT reply actions  

Would be a meaningless HR

"Earthly fame is naught but a breath of wind, which now comes hence and now comes thence, changing its name because it changes quarter." -- Dante, Purgatorio, Canto XI

by sweetswinger on Oct 1, 2008 8:49 PM CDT up reply actions  

Sori

Is more cold-pressed than olive oil. Ugh.

by TheNextCubsVoice on Oct 1, 2008 8:49 PM CDT reply actions  

There it is...

Tomorrow will be a winner.

--
"Every man is guilty of all the good he didn't do."
- Voltaire

by Yepsen on Oct 1, 2008 8:49 PM CDT reply actions  

Good luck..

We’re all counting on you..:)

"Whoever wants to know the heart and mind of America had better learn baseball." - Jacque Barzun

by Bump Bailey on Oct 1, 2008 9:01 PM CDT up reply actions  

Over Macho Grande?

No, I don’t think I’ll ever be over Macho Grande.

by hokie316 on Oct 1, 2008 9:02 PM CDT up reply actions  

Well

that was disappointing………hope this doesn’t continue

by bheidge on Oct 1, 2008 8:50 PM CDT reply actions  

We'll get them tomorrow

honest. This is the best team in the NL. Has been all season.

"This is a game to be savored, not gulped. There's time to discuss everything between pitches or between innings." -- Bill Veeck

by MOCubsfan on Oct 1, 2008 8:51 PM CDT up reply actions  

well we weren't going to go 11-0

2008 Cubs: Who needs nine innings, when you only need a 7th?

by Chanman25 on Oct 1, 2008 8:50 PM CDT reply actions  

thats true

hopefully tomorrow we eliminate the chance to go 0-3 tomorrow

by bheidge on Oct 1, 2008 8:51 PM CDT up reply actions  

as John McClane said............

we just got &*@*@**@’d on national television

by nervousCUBlover on Oct 1, 2008 8:50 PM CDT reply actions  

By the way, memo to the nay-sayers . . .

Cubs hits: 9
Dodgers hits: 8

The LA hits were just bigger hits, that’s all. 9 hits will win PLENTY of playoff games if you string them together.

by TheNextCubsVoice on Oct 1, 2008 8:51 PM CDT reply actions  

you forgot that

the dodgers walked about 15 times tonight

by bheidge on Oct 1, 2008 8:52 PM CDT up reply actions  

I didn't

I just failed to mention it in that particular post . .. I was speaking to our offensive strength, which many people have been bashing all night. Those walks made the Dodgers look like Murderer’s Row tonight.

by TheNextCubsVoice on Oct 1, 2008 8:54 PM CDT up reply actions  

yeah that tends to happen

when you got a guy out there pitching scared. Our offense was alright for the first half, disappeared in the second half of the game

by bheidge on Oct 1, 2008 8:55 PM CDT up reply actions  

Offense didn't show up either...

just like the starting pitching.

The best defense is a good offense.....Lou Pinella...still hasn't led the Cubs to a post season win

by kcjones on Oct 1, 2008 9:21 PM CDT up reply actions  

You don't need a lot...

…of hits when every other hitter is walked.

Also, it’s hard to get hits, if the pitcher doesn’t throw the ball over the plate.

"I don't like them fellas that drive in two runs but let in three" Casey Stengel

by MPH73 on Oct 1, 2008 9:02 PM CDT up reply actions  

stop rationalizing, people and get real.

We’re the best team in the national league. This is unacceptable, period. A sub par, under achieving performance of the highest order. what a joke.

by cedarpip on Oct 1, 2008 8:51 PM CDT reply actions  

easy to say this now but

I didn’t really agree with Dempster starting the first game

by bheidge on Oct 1, 2008 8:53 PM CDT up reply actions  

+1

It’s easy to say now, but deep inside I wanted Harden. He can be so dominating and this 1st. win is f’ng huge to say the least.

"Whoever wants to know the heart and mind of America had better learn baseball." - Jacque Barzun

by Bump Bailey on Oct 1, 2008 9:03 PM CDT up reply actions  

if it weren't for one damn pitch by Dempster..

2008 Cubs: Who needs nine innings, when you only need a 7th?

by Chanman25 on Oct 1, 2008 8:52 PM CDT reply actions  

the strikezone too was questionable tonight

Sure Dempster was erradic that one inning, but he was getting squeezed

2008 Cubs: Who needs nine innings, when you only need a 7th?

by Chanman25 on Oct 1, 2008 8:54 PM CDT up reply actions  

True dat

but our hitters were swinging at some wild ass outside pitches there too

by JFCubFan on Oct 1, 2008 8:56 PM CDT up reply actions  

I dont think he was getting squeezed that badly

he obviously didnt have it, that showed when he walked the pitcher.

by bheidge on Oct 1, 2008 8:56 PM CDT up reply actions  

Exactly,

it wasn’t the home run that did Dempster in, it was all of the walks.

Hey, it's a new century!

by cowsarecool220 on Oct 1, 2008 10:19 PM CDT up reply actions  

Why not say...

“If not for that damn foul tip before the Grand Slam”
or
“If not for the inconsistent strike zone”
or
“If not for the chalk on the foul line being 5 inches wider”
or even
"If not for the damn ‘five letter word that shall not be mentioned in these threads’ "

We lost, that’s it. If we get swept, loose in five, or win it all, that’s what it will be.

Besides, the Brewers lost, so we’ve got that to laugh at.

by rrtycoon2 on Oct 1, 2008 8:56 PM CDT up reply actions  

You can't walk 7 in 4 2/3rds and expect good outcome....

It wasn’t one damn pitch that did the Cubs in.

Oh please let this dubious bullpen be good enough in the playoffs...

by MDBNIU on Oct 1, 2008 8:57 PM CDT up reply actions  

true...

but it sucked the momentum out of the building..

2008 Cubs: Who needs nine innings, when you only need a 7th?

by Chanman25 on Oct 1, 2008 8:58 PM CDT up reply actions  

Seems like he probably felt he had to groove one or the ump would call it a ball.

"Whoever wants to know the heart and mind of America had better learn baseball." - Jacque Barzun

by Bump Bailey on Oct 1, 2008 9:04 PM CDT up reply actions  

Well, dempster shouldnt feel too bad.

Even without the Grand Slam, it would have been a 3-2 loss.

Assuming everything else played out as it did.

by rrtycoon2 on Oct 1, 2008 8:52 PM CDT reply actions  

That's horse crap

Marquis never see that game.

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by BrewCrew'sPrinceofDarkness on Oct 1, 2008 8:54 PM CDT up reply actions  

Getting out of a second bases loaded jam

May have given us more momentum. That just changed the game completely.

by AndHart120 on Oct 1, 2008 8:55 PM CDT up reply actions  

Well, that's over...

who is staying on here and watching the next game? Anyone? Anyone?

Tommie Agee was out.

by Weeghman Park on Oct 1, 2008 8:53 PM CDT reply actions  

According to history, we have 14% chance of winning this series.

Game one winners in a five game series has gone on to win 24 of 28 series.

Sweet

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by BrewCrew'sPrinceofDarkness on Oct 1, 2008 8:53 PM CDT reply actions  

Of those 4

how many were by teams that lost Game 1 at home?

by rrtycoon2 on Oct 1, 2008 9:04 PM CDT up reply actions  

Just remember....

It took the red sox being the 1st team down 0-3 to break out of their “funk”

The best defense is a good offense.....Lou Pinella...still hasn't led the Cubs to a post season win

by kcjones on Oct 1, 2008 9:24 PM CDT up reply actions  

Well,

I’ve been sick for a week and this game didn’t help, I’m off to a good night’s rest.

Here’s to a healthy and victorious tomorrow!

--
"Every man is guilty of all the good he didn't do."
- Voltaire

by Yepsen on Oct 1, 2008 8:53 PM CDT reply actions  

At least

we did not have to use Marmol or Wood…

D-LEE!

by airweino on Oct 1, 2008 8:56 PM CDT reply actions  

Hope they aren't getting rusty

The best defense is a good offense.....Lou Pinella...still hasn't led the Cubs to a post season win

by kcjones on Oct 1, 2008 9:24 PM CDT up reply actions  

If

We can get back to LA 1-1, we’re still very much in it. Cubs have actually played better on the road lately than at Wrigley.

Tomorrow will be the big test.

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by sweetswinger on Oct 1, 2008 8:59 PM CDT reply actions  

Well the cubs played like

little bitches tonight. Hopefully that energizes them for tomorrow

by bheidge on Oct 1, 2008 8:59 PM CDT reply actions  

Zambrano

I profess to being very worried about game 2. Zambrano is so damned hard to figure out and I’m not confident of his psyche or ability to step up in a must-win game. Just being honest.

Oh please let this dubious bullpen be good enough in the playoffs...

by MDBNIU on Oct 1, 2008 8:59 PM CDT reply actions  

I'm with you MDBNIU

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by waynemessmer on Oct 1, 2008 9:00 PM CDT reply actions  

im just surprised MDBNIU has a friend

(not a bash, i have no problem wih him)

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by preachermancubsfan on Oct 1, 2008 9:02 PM CDT up reply actions  

a friend on here that is

"Every player should be accorded the privilege of at least one season with the Chicago Cubs. That's baseball as it should be played - in God's own sunshine. And that's really living." --Alvin Dark

by preachermancubsfan on Oct 1, 2008 9:03 PM CDT up reply actions  

cant be confident in zambrano tomorrow, the whole season rides on it

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by CubsBall2202 on Oct 1, 2008 9:00 PM CDT reply actions  

Any changes to lineup, Lou?

“We’ll see tomorrow, we’ll see”

by JFCubFan on Oct 1, 2008 9:01 PM CDT reply actions  

how about going back to what worked

Fukudome batting second didnt work the first time you tried it……

by bheidge on Oct 1, 2008 9:03 PM CDT up reply actions  

Zambrano vs. Billingsley

bring it!

2008 Cubs: Who needs nine innings, when you only need a 7th?

by Chanman25 on Oct 1, 2008 9:03 PM CDT reply actions  

You know Torre and the Dodgers are going to try and get into Zambrano's head

I don’t think it is overstatement to say that tomorrow’s game is the biggest start of Zambrano’s career.

Oh please let this dubious bullpen be good enough in the playoffs...

by MDBNIU on Oct 1, 2008 9:04 PM CDT up reply actions  

No I'd agree with that statement

2008 Cubs: Who needs nine innings, when you only need a 7th?

by Chanman25 on Oct 1, 2008 9:05 PM CDT up reply actions  

i think i obviously is the biggest start

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by preachermancubsfan on Oct 1, 2008 9:05 PM CDT up reply actions  

Hope he brings his A game...

I’d much rather see your boy Harden out there tomorrow.

"Whoever wants to know the heart and mind of America had better learn baseball." - Jacque Barzun

by Bump Bailey on Oct 1, 2008 9:08 PM CDT up reply actions  

I wouldn't be opposed to that either...

but Harden is the type that can totally dominate the opposition. Lilly lately though has been pretty damn good.

"Whoever wants to know the heart and mind of America had better learn baseball." - Jacque Barzun

by Bump Bailey on Oct 1, 2008 9:12 PM CDT up reply actions  

What a poor performance

seriously.

Bob Howry: Ruining Baseball Since 2008

by The Original Dave on Oct 1, 2008 9:04 PM CDT reply actions  

A couple questions

why was fukudome batting second?? and why does Soriano suck so much at the plate?

by Btown on Oct 1, 2008 9:04 PM CDT reply actions  

well we got our two best pitchers

up next….mix that with hopefully a re-energized offense. Nothing is out of grasp yet

by bheidge on Oct 1, 2008 9:05 PM CDT reply actions  

I know one thing.

I really missed Len and Bob tonight.

by sue369 on Oct 1, 2008 9:05 PM CDT reply actions  

agreed...

though Miller and Sutcliffe were a good radio combo

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by Chanman25 on Oct 1, 2008 9:05 PM CDT up reply actions  

Oh that is the truth.

Len’s voice is the only comforting thing I have right now. I’m going to go watch a podcast.

2008 NL Central Champs!

by TyCubsfan on Oct 1, 2008 9:06 PM CDT up reply actions  

How are those?

Been meaning to check em out.

"Whoever wants to know the heart and mind of America had better learn baseball." - Jacque Barzun

by Bump Bailey on Oct 1, 2008 9:14 PM CDT up reply actions  

I was thinking the same thing during the game,

it’s such a bummer we get stuck with “national announcers” during the playoffs.

Hey, it's a new century!

by cowsarecool220 on Oct 1, 2008 10:22 PM CDT up reply actions  

+1

Thank goodness I live close enough to get Pat and Ron, and Miller and Sutcliffe weren’t too bad on ESPN radio.

"Whoever wants to know the heart and mind of America had better learn baseball." - Jacque Barzun

by Bump Bailey on Oct 1, 2008 10:28 PM CDT up reply actions  

dick stockton is a freaking idiot

Only insight one of them had to offer the entire game was about the crowd…..not sure who it was. Had the volume low for obvious reasons

by bheidge on Oct 1, 2008 9:06 PM CDT up reply actions  

Yeah, I don't think

I can do another game with them announcing.

by sue369 on Oct 1, 2008 9:07 PM CDT up reply actions  

Camera shot of DeRosa's home run was taken from Saturn it was so far away....

TBS apparently doesn’t have ability to place cameras where WGN and Comcast do.

Oh please let this dubious bullpen be good enough in the playoffs...

by MDBNIU on Oct 1, 2008 9:07 PM CDT up reply actions  

Those TBS announcers were excruciatingly bad

I watched almost the entire game without the sound on. At least the Red Sox-Angels game has Chip Caray

Tommie Agee was out.

by Weeghman Park on Oct 1, 2008 9:08 PM CDT up reply actions  

If the Cubs weren't equally as bad tonight,

you might not have even noticed how bad the announcers were.

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by The Original Dave on Oct 1, 2008 9:11 PM CDT up reply actions  

+1

Glad Pat and Ron were on.

"Whoever wants to know the heart and mind of America had better learn baseball." - Jacque Barzun

by Bump Bailey on Oct 1, 2008 9:09 PM CDT up reply actions  

The crowd was dead tonight

Even in the beginning of the game and when the Cubs were up 2-0.

Everyone there was waiting for something bad to pop the air out of the balloon

by PhillyCub on Oct 1, 2008 9:05 PM CDT reply actions  

how can you blame them, we knew it was coming

"This is why Major League Baseball does not need instant replay, because then every single play will then be reviewed." -- Joe Morgan, 5/18/08, referring to an umpire ruling a Carlos Delgado homerun foul when replays showed it hit the foul pole.

by CubsBall2202 on Oct 1, 2008 9:07 PM CDT up reply actions  

different crowd tonight...

lots of older folks there who had “seen it all” and were there to finally see a winner. Not too many of the day-to-day fans from my section at least from what I can see. Lots of shirts and ties compared to normal. Just a function of playoff baseball I guess.

by cubbot on Oct 1, 2008 9:09 PM CDT up reply actions  

Call it hangover effect of what happen against Arizona last fall...

The crowd has a right to be cautious until proven otherwise.

Oh please let this dubious bullpen be good enough in the playoffs...

by MDBNIU on Oct 1, 2008 9:08 PM CDT up reply actions  

No need to remind everyone

about the last 4 post-season games at Wrigley.

Any surprise why the crowd was waiting for something bad to happen?

by PhillyCub on Oct 1, 2008 9:13 PM CDT up reply actions  

I just dont think they were too excited about

a 2 run lead in the 3rd inning. I know I wasn’t

by bheidge on Oct 1, 2008 9:14 PM CDT up reply actions  

Good point..

noticed that too.

"Whoever wants to know the heart and mind of America had better learn baseball." - Jacque Barzun

by Bump Bailey on Oct 1, 2008 9:15 PM CDT up reply actions  

boom goes the dynomite

2008 Cubs: Who needs nine innings, when you only need a 7th?

by Chanman25 on Oct 1, 2008 9:11 PM CDT up reply actions  

aww I miss Frank Thomas on the announcing crew for TBS

He was like the Charles Barkley of Baseball. When they were talking I remember last year he randomly yelled “who won the georgia game?”

2008 Cubs: Who needs nine innings, when you only need a 7th?

by Chanman25 on Oct 1, 2008 9:07 PM CDT reply actions  

LOL

The Big Hurt was a Big mistake. That was funny tho…

"Whoever wants to know the heart and mind of America had better learn baseball." - Jacque Barzun

by Bump Bailey on Oct 1, 2008 9:27 PM CDT up reply actions  

The MOST IMPORTANT THING TOMORROW...Who is the HOME UMP?

How does he call things? What is his Zone?

That is what is so important with Z……..

by mmancubfan on Oct 1, 2008 9:09 PM CDT reply actions  

Unfortunately, this is the kind of nuanced crap that gets inside the head of Zambrano

Screw who the umpire is and his strikezone for the game. Pitch to conditions and pitch to the Dodger lineup. Don’t get upset over what you can’t control. Unfortunately also Joe Torre and the Dodgers are going to try like hell to get Zambrano off his rhythm. Please let his horoscope say good things tomorrow morning.

Oh please let this dubious bullpen be good enough in the playoffs...

by MDBNIU on Oct 1, 2008 9:12 PM CDT up reply actions  

You are very naive if you don't think that Z and Lou don't eval the ump

It isn’t nuanced crap or maleable ostentatious dog shit…………..

It is playing the game the way you can play it. As posted below. The strike zone tonight was small…sounds like tomorrow will be larger.

You on a consistant and mind numbing basis are a poster who is made fun of 90% of the time. I will refrain from adding on MDBNIU……………..how’s the Hoff pick you punk??????

by mmancubfan on Oct 1, 2008 9:42 PM CDT up reply actions  

Actually...

I think someone mentioned last night that the ump tonight had the smallest strike zone, and the one tomorrow has the widest….I’ll have to check their stats.

"Whoever wants to know the heart and mind of America had better learn baseball." - Jacque Barzun

by Bump Bailey on Oct 1, 2008 9:29 PM CDT up reply actions  

Dempster choked, plain and simple.

7 walks is the TOTAL amount he gave up in the month of September. Plus, they swung at several that were ball four. Not good for our so-called ace.

"He can't hit, he can't field, he can't run—all he can do is beat you."

by Itchy on Oct 1, 2008 9:10 PM CDT reply actions  

hes always been walk happy

but walking the fucking bases loaded? nothing bothers me more than that……well maybe walking the pticher

by bheidge on Oct 1, 2008 9:12 PM CDT up reply actions  

TWICE?

"He can't hit, he can't field, he can't run—all he can do is beat you."

by Itchy on Oct 1, 2008 9:13 PM CDT up reply actions  

He was walkin guys because he didn't feel good about his stuff...

Beyond the walks he also gave up some very loud outs. It might be the case that Dempster was picking his poison. Either nibble and maybe walk guys or watch them smack the tar out of his less than good stuff.

Oh please let this dubious bullpen be good enough in the playoffs...

by MDBNIU on Oct 1, 2008 9:14 PM CDT up reply actions  

This is the ultimate test.

Pick yourself up. Dust yourself off. And be a professional baseball player. Be a champion. It’s not going to be easy, The regular season is long gone. You earned it and you are better than this. Do i have to come down there myself and kick all your asses?

This is for vindication. For the naysayers. To kiss goats and black cats goodbye. To put Bartman in the rear view mirror. And never hear the word “curse” again. You can’t shake “loveable loser” until you f-ing win. So win.

by cedarpip on Oct 1, 2008 9:11 PM CDT reply actions  

2008 Cubs: Who needs nine innings, when you only need a 7th?

by Chanman25 on Oct 1, 2008 9:12 PM CDT reply actions  

Manny....

what a dolt…telling the press it’s all about Joe having him cut his hair.

"Whoever wants to know the heart and mind of America had better learn baseball." - Jacque Barzun

by Bump Bailey on Oct 1, 2008 9:13 PM CDT reply actions  

Well if some guys on the team we want to wwin....

would get some hhits to score runs…..Manny becomes irreleveant

The best defense is a good offense.....Lou Pinella...still hasn't led the Cubs to a post season win

by kcjones on Oct 1, 2008 9:29 PM CDT up reply actions  

+1

"Whoever wants to know the heart and mind of America had better learn baseball." - Jacque Barzun

by Bump Bailey on Oct 1, 2008 9:30 PM CDT up reply actions  

well I am out

hopefully tomorrow is better!

2008 Cubs: Who needs nine innings, when you only need a 7th?

by Chanman25 on Oct 1, 2008 9:14 PM CDT reply actions  

too many walks to a single hitter in furcal, that did us in

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by CubsBall2202 on Oct 1, 2008 9:15 PM CDT reply actions  

Facts of first game loss

teams that have won the first game in a series have won 24 out of 28 times

by CubFan69 on Oct 1, 2008 9:18 PM CDT reply actions  

None of those teams

had Zambrano and Harden going game 2 and 3

by bheidge on Oct 1, 2008 9:20 PM CDT up reply actions  

preach on!

i hear you brother!

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by preachermancubsfan on Oct 1, 2008 9:23 PM CDT up reply actions  

I'm with you Jimmy...

Talk about beating a dead horse…my lord.

"Whoever wants to know the heart and mind of America had better learn baseball." - Jacque Barzun

by Bump Bailey on Oct 1, 2008 9:31 PM CDT up reply actions  

How about 1 Cub, just once, getting pissed

and not just accepting their ass-whuppin?? Excuses. We’ll bounce back tomorrow. Blah, blah, blah. A little erratic, Demp??? Come on just say you sucked.

"He can't hit, he can't field, he can't run—all he can do is beat you."

by Itchy on Oct 1, 2008 9:22 PM CDT reply actions  

i was pretty leary about so many people

talking about “what they cant wait to see in the WS, and who they’d like to face” and not worrying about the SERIES AT HAND

maybe the team had that kind of mentality. i bet they dont anymore!

"Every player should be accorded the privilege of at least one season with the Chicago Cubs. That's baseball as it should be played - in God's own sunshine. And that's really living." --Alvin Dark

by preachermancubsfan on Oct 1, 2008 9:22 PM CDT reply actions  

So true, my friend.

Nothing is promised except the day at hand.

"He can't hit, he can't field, he can't run—all he can do is beat you."

by Itchy on Oct 1, 2008 9:23 PM CDT up reply actions  

Did lou have a post-game conference?

and what’d he say?

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by RightFieldSucks on Oct 1, 2008 9:24 PM CDT reply actions  

Too many walks and the rest of the baseball cliches.

Not much else. Looked whupped, like all of us feel.

"He can't hit, he can't field, he can't run—all he can do is beat you."

by Itchy on Oct 1, 2008 9:25 PM CDT up reply actions  

The 24 of 28 stat is bullshit

Why play the rest of the games if it is already decided? Why not save some time and just play a one-game series instead of five? Think of the 2004 Red Sox, and forget that stat. We just have to win some games

by vonde6 on Oct 1, 2008 9:24 PM CDT reply actions  

agreed

we win the next one (with Z pitching) and it’s 1-1. We win the first in LA (with Harden back pitching in california) and it’s 2-1. I was as miserable as anyone tonight, but i’m not ready to throw in the towel.

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by RightFieldSucks on Oct 1, 2008 9:26 PM CDT up reply actions  

well, no kidding dude!

but you are acting like it is an absolute to happen again bc of history

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by preachermancubsfan on Oct 1, 2008 9:28 PM CDT up reply actions  

Why don't you just do a fanpost about your freaking stat man.

And leave the rest of us alone, ok?

"Whoever wants to know the heart and mind of America had better learn baseball." - Jacque Barzun

by Bump Bailey on Oct 1, 2008 9:33 PM CDT up reply actions  

i thought the same thing.

everyone talked about how the rockies were gonna get swept bc they were sitting and waiting for a team to play, getting cold.

i thought, if that can happen to a whole team, why can’t it happen to individuals

"Every player should be accorded the privilege of at least one season with the Chicago Cubs. That's baseball as it should be played - in God's own sunshine. And that's really living." --Alvin Dark

by preachermancubsfan on Oct 1, 2008 9:27 PM CDT up reply actions  

*overpaid

if you’re gonna say the sky is falling, at least spell it right

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by RightFieldSucks on Oct 1, 2008 9:27 PM CDT up reply actions  

Barry Zito would like to have a word with you

he is a little hot/cold for my preference but I think most of us knew that going in. You can hate on him all you want but I am going to just hope he gets hot.

by bheidge on Oct 1, 2008 9:29 PM CDT up reply actions  

Ok Im gonna jump in and defend Alfonso

First Barry Zito would like to talk to you.
Second Alfonso Soriano’s signing helped set the tone for this new Cub regime
Third Alfonso Soriano is the best player on our team not named Aramis Ramirez
Fourth Alfonso Soriano carries this team for streches, and while I blame him for setting an awful tone for tonights game, he could catch fire and carry us.

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by nji232 on Oct 1, 2008 9:30 PM CDT up reply actions  

Hear hear...

Well said nji!

"Whoever wants to know the heart and mind of America had better learn baseball." - Jacque Barzun

by Bump Bailey on Oct 1, 2008 9:35 PM CDT up reply actions  

You've got to be freaking kidding me.

When MLB was considering contracting the Twins, the price to do it was 250 million dollars. That just so happened to be the size of the contract that Alex Rodriguez had just signed.

Jimmyeatworld

by Jimmyeatworld on Oct 1, 2008 9:30 PM CDT up reply actions  

dude he played well in the regular season.

"Every player should be accorded the privilege of at least one season with the Chicago Cubs. That's baseball as it should be played - in God's own sunshine. And that's really living." --Alvin Dark

by preachermancubsfan on Oct 1, 2008 9:30 PM CDT up reply actions  

yea, because you dont have to go thru the reg. season

to get to the postseason. thats teh dumbest overused statement ever

"Every player should be accorded the privilege of at least one season with the Chicago Cubs. That's baseball as it should be played - in God's own sunshine. And that's really living." --Alvin Dark

by preachermancubsfan on Oct 1, 2008 9:34 PM CDT up reply actions  

but we wouldnt even be in the position we are in, if

it wasnt for him. theres gonna be at least 2 more games for him to prove himself

"Every player should be accorded the privilege of at least one season with the Chicago Cubs. That's baseball as it should be played - in God's own sunshine. And that's really living." --Alvin Dark

by preachermancubsfan on Oct 1, 2008 9:36 PM CDT up reply actions  

Hmmm

I guess that would be news to Ernie Banks…

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by Goodie1969 on Oct 1, 2008 9:36 PM CDT up reply actions  

you just got burnt, lol

"Every player should be accorded the privilege of at least one season with the Chicago Cubs. That's baseball as it should be played - in God's own sunshine. And that's really living." --Alvin Dark

by preachermancubsfan on Oct 1, 2008 9:37 PM CDT up reply actions  

I like DLee a lot but...

tonight I would have preferred Ernie in that batting spot.

Tommie Agee was out.

by Weeghman Park on Oct 1, 2008 9:42 PM CDT up reply actions  

He's 77

Might have trouble with the high heat..:)

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by Bump Bailey on Oct 1, 2008 9:46 PM CDT up reply actions  

Where's our clutch???

Or more directly our post season clutch??? Does this team’s ass simply pucker up when the playoffs come….do they kinda secretly believe the curse crap….or do they wanna win so bad that they get to tight? All I know is we looked tight and Demps pitched nervous….and now we gotta rely on Mr. Mental Case tomorrow to right the ship…….I truly despise watching Manny Ramirez dance and frolic about…..why can’t karma come back and smack him in the teeth??? Series not over but I think we can all shut our traps about World Series for awhile….maybe until we actually get into one perhaps……..

by razzpunk on Oct 1, 2008 9:29 PM CDT reply actions  

Amen. brother, amen.

"He can't hit, he can't field, he can't run—all he can do is beat you."

by Itchy on Oct 1, 2008 9:30 PM CDT up reply actions  

I think we blew it.

anyone know a good shop in Wrigleyville?

by rrtycoon2 on Oct 1, 2008 9:33 PM CDT up reply actions  

what kind of shop?...

Walgreens has razor blades.

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by Bump Bailey on Oct 1, 2008 9:37 PM CDT up reply actions  

Hate those rope burns tho...

It would be pills and booze for me…go out with a good buzz.

"Whoever wants to know the heart and mind of America had better learn baseball." - Jacque Barzun

by Bump Bailey on Oct 1, 2008 9:40 PM CDT up reply actions  

Wasn't meant to be...

I sure wouldn’t take anything like suicide lightly. I had a friend who unfortunately, due to a lot of bad breaks in life, chose to end his own life. I’m sorry it offended you in any way. Maybe it was in bad taste. On second reading, it was. I do apologize. Too many beers and shots for me tonight.

"Whoever wants to know the heart and mind of America had better learn baseball." - Jacque Barzun

by Bump Bailey on Oct 1, 2008 10:33 PM CDT up reply actions  

Thanks for the apolgy, Bump

My younger killed himself about 25 years ago when he was in college and that was a devastating event that affects my whole family every day even now. It literally killed my dad 10-15 years prematurely based on his health at the time and how it deteriorated thereafter. It definitely makes you look at your own life differently and hopefully concentrate on what’’s right with your life rather than all the things that are wrong. Off the sopabox for a soft landing. Good Night.

Tommie Agee was out.

by Weeghman Park on Oct 1, 2008 11:03 PM CDT up reply actions  

Razzy, you just answered your own question.

They were tight & pressing tonight at the start. DeRo’s homer loosened them up a little. I think that they got this tightness out of the way tonight. I don’t think the Dodgers can keep our offense down tomorrow night. When will karma smack the other team in the teeth? Tomorrow night at 9:00 is when. Stay tuned…

Jimmyeatworld

by Jimmyeatworld on Oct 1, 2008 9:36 PM CDT up reply actions  

Big believer in karma here...

what goes around….

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by Bump Bailey on Oct 1, 2008 9:38 PM CDT up reply actions  

there is a thing called a reply button

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by preachermancubsfan on Oct 1, 2008 9:32 PM CDT up reply actions  

who is our team leader?

who is going to give us the emotional lift we need? Every great team had one. Who is ours?

by cedarpip on Oct 1, 2008 9:33 PM CDT reply actions  

i would say that dero is the emotional leader of the team

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by preachermancubsfan on Oct 1, 2008 9:35 PM CDT up reply actions  

Agree

I was thinking on that and, surprisingly, no one immediately came to mind. In some ways, Edmonds is but he is not “Cub” enough yet, if you know what I mean. It really should be DLee and I think Lou said today or yesterday that he did say a few words to the team. Whatever it was must not have been inspirational enough. By default, DeRo is just by how he plays the game and I think that’s who Lou would name if he were asked the question, but he would never answer it.

Tommie Agee was out.

by Weeghman Park on Oct 1, 2008 9:39 PM CDT up reply actions  

this is going to be a statement that might get me roasted, but...

i really kinda hope d-lee isnt on this team next year. i think he could be hindering this team leadership wise, everyone looks to him, and never delivers

Roast away

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by preachermancubsfan on Oct 1, 2008 9:41 PM CDT up reply actions  

i dont know why he is still in the #3 hole

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by preachermancubsfan on Oct 1, 2008 9:47 PM CDT up reply actions  

That's a more direct way of saying what I was trying to say.

Thank you. I think he is good for the team but he isn’t the leader like a Banks and he is probably batting in the wrong spot in the order. He is very good defensively.

Tommie Agee was out.

by Weeghman Park on Oct 1, 2008 9:45 PM CDT up reply actions  

I like him on the team

but not in the 3 spot, he hit into another dp again tonight. I also would never, ever choose him to be a motivational speaker for any group I’m in charge of motivating.

by TheRamZamDLEE on Oct 1, 2008 9:46 PM CDT up reply actions  

Football is a game of emotion.

Baseball is not. Emotion actually works against you in baseball.

Hey, it's a new century!

by cowsarecool220 on Oct 1, 2008 10:29 PM CDT up reply actions  

Do the Cubs have a captain?

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by Bump Bailey on Oct 1, 2008 9:49 PM CDT up reply actions  

+1

"Whoever wants to know the heart and mind of America had better learn baseball." - Jacque Barzun

by Bump Bailey on Oct 1, 2008 10:00 PM CDT up reply actions  

Now it's a must win situation

No excuses, curses, or any of that crap. This is it. You didn’t bust ass for 6 months to aly down to a team you know you can beat. GET IT DONE!!

"He can't hit, he can't field, he can't run—all he can do is beat you."

by Itchy on Oct 1, 2008 9:34 PM CDT reply actions  

ah good old Craig Sager

how I missed you and your ugly suites

by bheidge on Oct 1, 2008 9:36 PM CDT reply actions  

Ha...

rimshot…:)

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by Bump Bailey on Oct 1, 2008 10:08 PM CDT up reply actions  

DeRo on postgame..

WGN radio.

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by Bump Bailey on Oct 1, 2008 9:42 PM CDT reply actions  

Goodnight

"He can't hit, he can't field, he can't run—all he can do is beat you."

by Itchy on Oct 1, 2008 9:47 PM CDT up reply actions  

goodnight,

but i think i fall under lover, and idiot, lol

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by preachermancubsfan on Oct 1, 2008 9:48 PM CDT up reply actions  

Night

it seems like there should be more categories than that.

Tommie Agee was out.

by Weeghman Park on Oct 1, 2008 9:49 PM CDT up reply actions  

+1

Pessimists, optomists, overzealous?

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by Bump Bailey on Oct 1, 2008 9:54 PM CDT up reply actions  

Theriot...

telling Kaplan on WGN radio that the Dodgers did a great job of laying off Dempster’s pitches….you think?

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by Bump Bailey on Oct 1, 2008 10:03 PM CDT reply actions  

Laying off 'em?

They were so far outside they couldn’t reach ’em

by jaxinnabox on Oct 1, 2008 10:16 PM CDT up reply actions  

Cubs could easily win this series 3-1

If Z dominates tomorrow – I like Harden and Lilly in games 3 and 4!

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by Cub Fan Mike on Oct 1, 2008 10:03 PM CDT reply actions  

+1

I like the way you think Mike and want to subscribe to your newsletter.

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by Bump Bailey on Oct 1, 2008 10:11 PM CDT up reply actions  

Someones had too much cubbie kool aid tonight

Zambrano coming anywhere close to dominance is a HUGE IF, id give it about a 5% chance of him pitching a good game tomorrow, his head is going to be so f’ed up it wont matter

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by CubsBall2202 on Oct 1, 2008 10:12 PM CDT up reply actions  

Actually from the look on his face tonight in the dugout

I think he could come out tomorrow and just be in an untouchable zone. He sees this as his opportunity to show the world he is the pitcher he has been saying he is for a few years now in a clutch situation. If he doesn’t go out tonight and drown sorrows in swimming pools of alcohol or Red Bull and comes to work focused tomorrow he could just dominate. If anything Demp lulled the Dodgers into a nibbling kind of delivery: not overpowering and lots of ball so they just sat back and waited for something good to drive or take the BB. Z could get in front early emotionally, in the count and in the game score and never let them up off the mat. And, if he does, then Harden has incremental personal motivational reason to bring his A+ game next. Bottom line, within the first few pitches we will know the outcome of tomorrow’s game from our pitching perspective. Figuring out where the offense is going to raise its head finally is more tricky.

Tommie Agee was out.

by Weeghman Park on Oct 1, 2008 10:23 PM CDT up reply actions  

Being a STL fan, I hate saying this, but...

Big Z was nails in the playoffs last year: 6 innings, 2 earned runs…but picked up a loss. If he has another 6 innings, 2 runs (not earned runs) game, then he could pick up a W against the Dodgers.

by stlfan on Oct 1, 2008 11:54 PM CDT up reply actions  

You forgot about Derrek DP Lee

Problem is that Lee will kill any rally that they cubs have going. Can you remember the last clutch hit the man had? Wow Cub bats and Playoff games are so bi-polar. ’98, 89 and 84 – big burst but mostly silent no consistency. Remember how many times Dawson came up in ’89 needing only a hit and best we got was a Sac Fly. Deja vous all over again.

by rmonday557 on Oct 2, 2008 6:40 AM CDT up reply actions  

I've had a lot stronger than kool aid tonight...

However, I’d put that a little higher than 5%. I think the combination of extra rest, (remember, he had a lot of rest before the no-no) cool weather, wind blowing in, an ump with a wider strike zone, (which I believe will happen) should bode well for Big Z. I agree with you about his head tho. God knows where that will be. That’s the X factor I think.

"Whoever wants to know the heart and mind of America had better learn baseball." - Jacque Barzun

by Bump Bailey on Oct 1, 2008 10:26 PM CDT up reply actions  

Z should totally hire us to be his handlers and take care of him on days before he pitches like Matadors used to have.

We take him the gym to workout and the restaurant to eat and get him to the park on time and arrange for a discreet number of peronal meetings with his fans. and we work on his head to keep him LEVEL, FOCUSED and CALM. That would totally rock dude; anyone got his cell number?

Tommie Agee was out.

by Weeghman Park on Oct 1, 2008 11:08 PM CDT up reply actions  

+1

Cubs actually play very well at Dodger Stadium.

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by Goat Whisperer on Oct 1, 2008 11:04 PM CDT up reply actions  

I think todays loss

Is grounds for eliminating the picture of Soto saga. I mean.. Piniella would be a good one to use.. or even the starting pitcher of the day.. but today we lost so the luck ran out with Soto, maybe if you take him off he will perform better in the game as well. I dont know… just a suggestion…

WOW WHAT A SEASON!

by SouthsideCUBSfan on Oct 2, 2008 4:02 AM CDT reply actions  

Dave Kaplan said the fans didn't bring their A game.

Yeah, Dave, the fans didn’t bring their A game. Sure, that was the problem.

by Rick B on Oct 2, 2008 7:30 AM CDT reply actions  

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