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can we just let it go for a moment

I first want to thank Al for everything he does towards making our lives as cubs fans more insulated, informative and intelligent. With this said though, it is time to LET IT GO. I have been on this site maybe three times since Soriano half-swinged his way to the final out of a horrific four days of playoff baseball. 

In the few times I have checked in, I have noticed an abundance of  "ten things to do in the off season" and " If I were Jim Hendry..." and "reasons why the cubs need a new ballpark" and on and on about how to rectify this past year's embarrassment in the post season. 

Let it go. 

I know that is a hard pill to swallow as a lifelong fan of a team seemingly futile when it comes to playoff progress, but Paul Sullivan made sense and was right when he requested that we all just give it a break for a little while. I am not saying to stop visiting BCB or whatever your site of choice is. I am not saying to stop caring or stop being passionate about our team. What I am saying is give it a break, let it go and immerse yourself into something else besides the woeful performance of our team.  Try to create memories of what was an amazing season up until Oct 1st., not expectations of a season or a future we know nothing about.

The problem with Cubs fans is that we all begin to worry in October or November when the rest of the mlb world does so in March/April. We, as Cubs fans, are already worrying about what will happen next year and, in doing so, we are already preparing ourselves for, subconsciously, how we are going to fail next year. IT DOES US NO GOOD AND, although i hate to say this, IT IS PART OF THE PROBLEM. 

I think we all noticed in game 1 and game 2 when the tide was turning away from the Cubs just what kind of effect it had on us the fans. Whether you were in the ballpark or on your couch at home, Cubs fans have another emotional range that no other sports fans have. It is called the floor dropping out on your soul.

We, Cubs fans, become pale and listless, which can be discerned from across the room, or in the case of the games across and throughout a 39,000 seat stadium. I don't give a damn if our team were comprised of Aaron, Pujols, Mays, Sandberg, Dawson, etc.-- even they would not be able to cope with the feeling of 39,000 lively fans turned zombie. I am not making excuses for the team, for they were awful. I am saying that our philosophy and psychology as fans also affects(ed) this. 

Let it go...let it leave/fly...it will come back and it will happen. 

This is a FanPost and does not necessarily reflect the views of SB Nation, Bleed Cubbie Blue, or Al Yellon, editor-in-chief. FanPost opinions are, however, valued expressions of opinion by passionate and knowledgeable baseball fans.

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Very Well Said

Although I don’t necessarily feel that the fans’ attitude affected those three games, it certainly didn’t help matters any. The players, and the organization, know how badly we want to win, and that pressure can’t help but to be put on those shoulders. It was a wonderful season (up until October), and I absolutely love playoff baseball. I would love to be in the position we were in this year, and when that happens again I hope I can take a step back and remember what I’m saying now…and just enjoy the ride.

"Yes, dear. You're right. I'm sorry." -Bob Brenly

by ambrosiadreams on Oct 13, 2008 11:13 AM CDT   0 recs

Not only Cubs fans

Sorry dude, but all my baseball buddies are following their teams…thats why we have the Hot Stove. Anyone who follows baseball is taking notice to what goes on for their team and other teams well before the spring…its part of being a fan. I disagree, I think it is not part of the so-called problem at all, I do think it is what has helped convince management to make the kind of moves to keep the Cubs competative. A strong healthy fan base is essential to any sports team. People are welcome to enter baseball hibernation – with no judgement from me. But, I would ask that you allow the rest of us to allow it to preoccupy our time and thoughts if we so choose, without judgement.

by StevenABQ on Oct 13, 2008 12:39 PM CDT   0 recs

Allow?

Did I ban the right to follow the cubs ad nauseum? Only suggesting, not decreeing…Dude. Do what you want. Do what you need to do, I wouldn’t want to hinder any platform you have to ‘convince management.’ (I can assure you that Hendry does not take his cue from his loyal following— you and me and the fans, especially in light of the past five years leading up to the sale of the Tribune company.)

You have obviously mistaken the intention of my post what with your knee jerk response about fan bases and loyalty, i.e. part of being a fan.

Go crazy my friend. I hope that between now and opening day you shop prospects in your head, rearrange the lineup every day based on who is available in the FAM, throw a dinner party for the winter meetings, type thousands of posts on hundreds of threads and listen to ‘Someday We’ll Go All the Way’ until your ears begin to resemble Harry’s.

by jesus figeroa on Oct 13, 2008 1:37 PM CDT   0 recs

Without judgement

Those were my words, trust me whether or not you decreed anything it wouldn’t mean a hill of beans to me or probably any other fan. And my point about fans following the sport in the off season was not meant to imply that they have any more loyalty than someone who takes a break. The point is, that I disagree that such fan reactions are isolated to the Cubs.

Sorry to disapoint, but I do not believe that anything I might say or think has any real effect on managements decisions. But like most human beings I have this instinctive notion to think about the future. Therefore, I will speculate on decisions, ideas, etc…that I have absolutely no control over. I’ll pretty much do everything you said I would do, with the exception of going crazy or listening to ‘Someday We’ll Go All the Way’ not a big fan of it.

by StevenABQ on Oct 13, 2008 1:52 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

"Someday"

I don’t dislike the song, but I’m with you — not a huge fan. Interesting that it became popular at the end of the season — when people should have been pumped about the playoffs, this wistful song caught on.

Now, I’m certainly not saying that changed anything; I’m merely saying that I found that interesting – maybe even a touch ironic. I do, however, expect to see four or five comments saying that the song had nothing to do with anything as some people will conclude that’s exactly what I’m saying, despite the fact that I’m explicitly saying it isn’t. . . and I know who I expect to see them from.

Facts are meaningless. You could use facts to prove anything that's even remotely true! --Homer J. Simpson

by Shanghai Badger on Oct 13, 2008 2:41 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Personally, I agree with you..

I am still a Cubs fan and a baseball fan, always. I have pretty much ignored what the media has to say about the Cubs. I’ve ignored (for the most part) the posts about what happened, whose to blame, what should the Cubs (players and management) do, what should the fans do, what should happen before we can win, etc, etc, etc… I don’t care. I don’t care about the playoffs or WS right now. I just can’t be there this year. None of that stuff changes anything and it all can just make you crazy thinking about it. I’m just gonna shut it down until after the holidays. Come January, the Cubs convention, I know I will be back, refreshed and ready for another season without having spent the angst the previous couple of months worrying about the past.
I know this wouldn’t for everybody but for me there is no other way right now.

by cubsgirl2 on Oct 13, 2008 11:48 PM CDT   0 recs

I'm feelin' ya, dude.

My emotional journey since the end of Game 3 appears to have taken me down this very road. For the first week or so, I needed to come here to BCB just to feel normal. Obsessing about the Cubs had become such a key part of my life that I just wasn’t ready to let go. And continuing to rehash all the nitty-gritty details of the team for that first week – even while still feeling the intense disappointment and shame of the Cubs horrible demise – seemed strangely therapeutic.

But in the past few days, I’ve developed a strange coldness toward the Cubs. Suddenly, I don’t want to pore over lineup permutations or wonder what the hell to do with Kosuke Fukudome. I just want to let it go for a while. Some have compared the downfall of the 2008 Cubs to a cheating wife or girlfriend. And that kinda makes sense. At first, I was outraged. Then I tried to reclaim her. Now I’m distant and, to some extent, disinterested.

Don’t get me wrong – I’ll take her back. I know I will. I still think about the team often, and even though I’ve said that watching the playoffs doesn’t bother me, it does. I can’t help watching a team like the Rays succeed and think, “Hey, they won 97 games – just like the Cubs. Why can’t that be Aramis Ramirez hitting postseason home runs instead of Evan Longoria? Why can’t that be Ryan Dempster cutting down opposing hitters instead of Scott Kazmir? Imagine how happy we’d be.”

So I can really empathize with the point you’re making here, jesus figeroa. And I would urge anyone out there who may be feeling the same way, and who might be afraid to admit it, to let the details go for a while. Give yourself a little more time to process your grief. Because that’s what this is: grief. We had something special, and we lost it. But we’ll have it again…someday.

"I see I'm not the only one around here who can't hold his water." - Final words of the water pipe in the visiting team dugout, Dodger Stadium, October 4, 2008.

by dat cubfan daver on Oct 14, 2008 1:33 PM CDT   0 recs

You're going through those five stages of grief.

You know: anger, denial, bargaining, depression, acceptance.

I think you’re at depression and almost at acceptance. Once you get there, you can start over. Say, about April 6, 2009.

"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al on Oct 14, 2008 3:18 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

I think you're right.

I probably moved past “bargaining” a few days ago when I decided that the Chicago Cubs will never win a World Series championship. Now I’m not sure whether I really believe that – and I hope it’s not true – but it’s what I had to tell myself to be able to stop thinking about “what could have been” and resign myself to “what will never be.”

Now I’m just sort of sad, but I’m fairly confident that I’ll be ready to go when Spring Training arrives. And I’m sure I’ll stick around here to keep an eye on things and, uh, make a few jokes.

"I see I'm not the only one around here who can't hold his water." - Final words of the water pipe in the visiting team dugout, Dodger Stadium, October 4, 2008.

by dat cubfan daver on Oct 14, 2008 4:34 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

You nailed it pretty good.

I guess the toughest part of it is that we all thought we finally had a seat at the big table. There’s nothing worse than putting in all the work in practice and being told you can’t play in the big game. That’s how it felt. I’ll get over it, but it stings.

"Hats for bats.....keep bats warm." - Pedro Cerrano
"Hey bartender, Jobu needs a refill !!!!!!!" - Eddie Harris

by willie mays hayes' gloves on Oct 14, 2008 2:13 PM CDT   0 recs

I think the psychology of the crowd

is absolutely an element of success or failure. Just look back on the comments of the players throughout the year. Many times they credited the energy of the Wrigley crowd with carrying them across the finish line of many a remarkable win. Is it so unrealistic, then, to suggest the reverse may also be true?

I hesitate to mention the most infamous example of this, but one cannot deny that five years ago, the palpable aura of doom settled over Wrigley like a dark shadow after that infamous non-catch. I think this directly led to Gonzalez booting the sure DP ball. Every player on that field now knew the gravity of that moment, and none more than he. The sheer agony of waiting, waiting, for that ball to roll to him, the thoughts that must have raced through his mind, one after the other, distracted him from the most vital task at hand: fielding the ball cleanly.

I am not a psychologist, nor do I play one on TV. I am, however, a firm believer in the spiritual energy of crowds, be they at a ball game, a rave, or a church service. Positive energy breeds positivity exponentially, and negative energy likewise gnaws away at the soul, sometimes with startling speed. Fear, panic, and impatience stand diametrically opposed to confidence, serenity, and patience. They are palpable, they are real, and until Cubs fans embrace the latter, and throw off the shackles of the former, change will not come…at least not easily.

"The only way of finding the limits of the possible is by going beyond them into the impossible." ~Arthur C. Clarke

by Goodie1969 on Oct 14, 2008 6:00 PM CDT   0 recs

A good example of how to turn it around

came on July 12, 2008. Carlos Marmol had just finished coughing up a huge lead late in Rich Harden’s sparkling Cubs debut, and the mood at Wrigley was ugly and sour. Play after awful play spiraled into an impossible 7-7 tie in the 9th. The fans in our section were sure of defeat. Enter Sean Marshall.

With calm, confident precision, Marshall shook off the negative mood like dust and just went about his job with the smooth professionalism of a man who believed his best was surely good enough. He threw two shutout innings and led off the 11th with a single, heaping another positive achievement on what he had accomplished so far. Though he would not score the winning run (having been thrown out at third on a bunt attempt), he ought to have, because in the ledger that day it says:

WP – Sean Marshall

In the words of Ellis Boyd “Red” Redding, “That’s damn right.”

"The only way of finding the limits of the possible is by going beyond them into the impossible." ~Arthur C. Clarke

by Goodie1969 on Oct 14, 2008 6:14 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

I agree with you.

Although, I will tell you this, having been in that crowd: the overwhelming sense we all had after the Cubs came back and won that game was relief, rather than exhilaration over winning.

"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al on Oct 14, 2008 7:44 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Let them vent

Jesus Cub Fans are not alone. What people are doing on this site is something the all American Baseball fan does throughout the year. After the Winter meetings some will have a change of thought and some might not. This has been a cycle for fans all over the Nation for years. It is part of being an American Sports fan.

by NYCUB FAN on Oct 14, 2008 7:26 PM CDT   0 recs

Occasionally, Jesus Cub Fans will leave literature on my front step.

"I see I'm not the only one around here who can't hold his water." - Final words of the water pipe in the visiting team dugout, Dodger Stadium, October 4, 2008.

by dat cubfan daver on Oct 15, 2008 11:59 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

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