Overflow Thread 2: NLDS Game #2, Cubs vs. Dodgers, Thursday 10/2, 8:30 CT
by Al on Oct 2, 2008 10:00 PM CDT
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"Since baseball time is measured only in outs, all you have to do is succeed utterly; keep hitting, keep the rally alive, and you have defeated time. You remain forever young." -- Roger Angell
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Rock Over London, Rock on Chicago!
by Bolsterman on Oct 2, 2008 10:01 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Well, I'm still watching
Rock Over London, Rock on Chicago!
by Bolsterman on Oct 2, 2008 10:02 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
DOUBLE PLAY
Rock Over London, Rock on Chicago!
by Bolsterman on Oct 2, 2008 10:02 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
THAT WE DIDN'T HIT INTO!
As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.
by santoswoodenlegs on Oct 2, 2008 10:03 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well played sir
Rock Over London, Rock on Chicago!
by Bolsterman on Oct 2, 2008 10:03 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
360 degrees!
As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.
by santoswoodenlegs on Oct 2, 2008 10:03 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Never give up hope! Remember the Rockies
Rock Over London, Rock on Chicago!
by Bolsterman on Oct 2, 2008 10:04 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
9-1 deficit
Rock Over London, Rock on Chicago!
by Bolsterman on Oct 2, 2008 10:04 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
AND WE WON
Rock Over London, Rock on Chicago!
by Bolsterman on Oct 2, 2008 10:04 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Rockies? They got swept in the WS last year....
As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.
by santoswoodenlegs on Oct 2, 2008 10:05 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I feel like a balloon with a pinhole
slowly leaking out
------ TheRiot Squad ------
by RightFieldSucks on Oct 2, 2008 10:06 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
akjsghasgl
Rock Over London, Rock on Chicago!
by Bolsterman on Oct 2, 2008 10:06 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
why why why
Rock Over London, Rock on Chicago!
by Bolsterman on Oct 2, 2008 10:06 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I need a drink
Rock Over London, Rock on Chicago!
by Bolsterman on Oct 2, 2008 10:07 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I've been drinking.
Pre-game and before the 2nd it was to get juiced… since then it has turned therapeutic.
by wsunick on Oct 2, 2008 10:09 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm depressed.
2008 NL Central Champs!
by TyCubsfan on Oct 2, 2008 10:07 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Was that shot from Edmonds close?
I have no feed other than gameday.
by wsunick on Oct 2, 2008 10:07 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
juuust at the basket...
Rock Over London, Rock on Chicago!
by Bolsterman on Oct 2, 2008 10:07 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
It saddens me
with the rate of these posts. Looks like everyone went to bed.
Rock Over London, Rock on Chicago!
by Bolsterman on Oct 2, 2008 10:08 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
All is well!
Pay no attention to that scoreboard!
Some changes will have to be made after this season – several of these players shink from big spots. Derrek Lee, in particular, is embarrassing himself.
MLBMilestone.com - following the numbers to Cooperstown
by D98 on Oct 2, 2008 10:09 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
You could try and not sound so happy about it....
As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.
by santoswoodenlegs on Oct 2, 2008 10:10 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
+1
It turns out that he is neither a leader nor clutch.
by wsunick on Oct 2, 2008 10:10 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
+1 just because he talks to the leader does not make him a leader
Every player should be accorded the privilege of at least one season with the Chicago Cubs. That's baseball as it should be played - in God's own sunshine. And that's really living."
by DC Cubbie on Oct 2, 2008 10:18 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
wow...
Kosuke for 3 more years
Soriano for ?6 more years?
even Ramirez and Lee for 3-4 more?
all of these players with no-trade clauses (excluding KF), but if we’re going to win, it’s going to have to be with these guys…..here’s to hoping ‘experience’ pays off someday
by LuisSalazar on Oct 2, 2008 10:10 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Soriano still performs in the season
look at what he did with 2 DL stints……so he worries me the least….better hope Vitters pans out quickly
Okay, just so I understand it... in your wildest fantasy, you are in hell. And you are co-running a bed and breakfast with the devil.
by bren on Oct 2, 2008 10:21 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
soriano hits bad pitchers
good pitchers can get him out, and thats all you see in the playoffs
by JPetey on Oct 2, 2008 10:23 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
the player who is embarrassing himself the most
is fukudome. he looks downright stupid facing any kind of a breaking ball low and away and seems to strike out every ab.
by gocubsgoradio720 on Oct 2, 2008 10:10 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
We've got them right where we want them!
As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.
by santoswoodenlegs on Oct 2, 2008 10:11 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Alrighty
he fielded the ball, and made an out!
Rock Over London, Rock on Chicago!
by Bolsterman on Oct 2, 2008 10:12 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
"we need to just keep chipping away"
Lou
Rock Over London, Rock on Chicago!
by Bolsterman on Oct 2, 2008 10:12 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
holy cow what happened to us?
shock…
2008 NL Central Champs!
by TyCubsfan on Oct 2, 2008 10:13 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
We haven't given up any grand slams....
just sayin’
As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.
by santoswoodenlegs on Oct 2, 2008 10:15 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
give it time. at this rate we will load em on errors and then bam
2008 NL Central Champs!
by TyCubsfan on Oct 2, 2008 10:16 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I hate TBS
Just saying…
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"Every man is guilty of all the good he didn't do."
- Voltaire
by Yepsen on Oct 2, 2008 10:17 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Cubs will win game 3 to give us false hope
by sanks on Oct 2, 2008 10:17 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
No such thing
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"Every man is guilty of all the good he didn't do."
- Voltaire
by Yepsen on Oct 2, 2008 10:18 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
all right
let’s turn this thing around, right now.
by freefontaine on Oct 2, 2008 10:18 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I spent the days leading up to the postseason
wondering if I’d cry if we won it all… Now I wonder if I’ll cry when we don’t even get there.
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"Every man is guilty of all the good he didn't do."
- Voltaire
by Yepsen on Oct 2, 2008 10:18 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I have a plane ticket to Chicago right around October 25th...
Now i’m not going to go.
2008 NL Central Champs!
by TyCubsfan on Oct 2, 2008 10:19 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I took those days off at the end of October
damn
by JPetey on Oct 2, 2008 10:20 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I was talking about this the other day too
I really hope we can turn this series around so I can find out
by wsunick on Oct 2, 2008 10:21 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
No kidding
while re-reading that I realized how melodramatic it sounded… But its true… I am still holding out hope, but, I mean seriously? Can this happen again? I sure hope not.
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"Every man is guilty of all the good he didn't do."
- Voltaire
by Yepsen on Oct 2, 2008 10:22 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yes
I told my wife tonight, this will be way tougher than last year was if it doesn’t turn around.
by wsunick on Oct 2, 2008 10:24 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
My Mrs. called it a night
After cursing and complaining during the Cubs error-rally.
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"Every man is guilty of all the good he didn't do."
- Voltaire
by Yepsen on Oct 2, 2008 10:25 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Dick Sockton is awfull and so is Ron Darling!
by sanks on Oct 2, 2008 10:18 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
who cares
about stockton or darling???
by gocubsgoradio720 on Oct 2, 2008 10:19 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Since my receiver
is not receiving AM, and I have to listen to them… Sadly, I do.
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"Every man is guilty of all the good he didn't do."
- Voltaire
by Yepsen on Oct 2, 2008 10:20 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
fair enough
but seriously, does it really matter who is doing play-by-play…isn’t our play enough to make you sick without stockton or darling?
by gocubsgoradio720 on Oct 2, 2008 10:21 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
They are the spoiled mayo
on a bad play sandwich.
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"Every man is guilty of all the good he didn't do."
- Voltaire
by Yepsen on Oct 2, 2008 10:23 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
anyone listening to Ron and Pat?
is Ron still alive?
by JPetey on Oct 2, 2008 10:21 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
If...
They don’t turn this around they’re gonna need to sedate Ronny…
- Over? Did you say "over"? Nothing is over until we decide it is! Was it over when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor? Hell no!
- Germans?
- Forget it, he's rolling.
by Endrick on Oct 2, 2008 10:22 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
the dodgers are just way better than the Cubs
yeah the Cubs are playing like crap but I dunno how much of a shot we had even playing well.
the pink hat guy is my father
by joeschmitt on Oct 2, 2008 10:22 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Are you serious?
The Dodgers=mediocre
The Cubs=suck (right now)
by LerxstCub on Oct 2, 2008 10:25 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
what about the dodgers is mediocre?
great starting pitchers, great power (66 HR in 55 games with Manny)
the pink hat guy is my father
by joeschmitt on Oct 2, 2008 10:25 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
They are on a hot streak
right now just like the Astros were a few weeks ago. That stuff happens but they are not a good team. Manny is a great hitter but that’s about it. Teams play over their heads sometimes and that’s what the Dodgers are doing at the moment. Remember the 2003 Marlins?
by LerxstCub on Oct 2, 2008 10:28 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Nope...
But they will be playing in the NLCS barring an abrupt change from the Cubs
The best defense is a good offense.....Lou Pinella...still hasn't managed the Cubs to a post season win. D. Lee still doesn't have a post seasson RBI/Run scored for Cubs...ditto for Soriano
by kcjones on Oct 2, 2008 10:30 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
-1
We finished 13 1/2 games ahead of them.
by wsunick on Oct 2, 2008 10:25 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
you guys are all judging the dodgers pre-manny
they have been on fire with manny. he really changes a lineup
the pink hat guy is my father
by joeschmitt on Oct 2, 2008 10:26 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I don't have the numbers
but they definitely have not been “on fire”
They played well in September but not in August
by wsunick on Oct 2, 2008 10:27 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
they didnt even play anyone in September
toughest opponent was the Diamondbacks
by bheidge on Oct 2, 2008 10:29 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
what was their record after Manny got there
they are a completely different team since he joined them
by JPetey on Oct 2, 2008 10:26 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
exactly
they hit 66 HR in last 55 games. that is sick.
the pink hat guy is my father
by joeschmitt on Oct 2, 2008 10:27 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Its Gonna Happen?
Okay, just so I understand it... in your wildest fantasy, you are in hell. And you are co-running a bed and breakfast with the devil.
by bren on Oct 2, 2008 10:24 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
It almost done happening.
As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.
by santoswoodenlegs on Oct 2, 2008 10:25 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
insert requisite wait til next year comment
2008 NL Central Champs!
by TyCubsfan on Oct 2, 2008 10:25 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Wow and the fucking Tampa Bay Rays won today. Got to be kidding me
2008 NL Central Champs!
by TyCubsfan on Oct 2, 2008 10:25 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I think I might start rooting for them
just to feel like the underdog can sometimes win
by wsunick on Oct 2, 2008 10:26 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
underdog is winning the Cubs series also
the pink hat guy is my father
by joeschmitt on Oct 2, 2008 10:27 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'll sum it up
This F*cking sucks!!!!!!!!!!!!
by PhillyCub on Oct 2, 2008 10:26 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
does it really help if you leave out the 'u'?
by JPetey on Oct 2, 2008 10:27 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
We'll do it live!!
Anything to keep my mind off this horrible series.
by southloop on Oct 2, 2008 10:32 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
You're right.
Help I'm a Cubs fan stuck in Cards Country
by jac on Oct 2, 2008 10:26 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
We have more errors than hits....
As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.
by santoswoodenlegs on Oct 2, 2008 10:27 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Is it just me or
are the Cubs sphinters really really tight the first 2 games?
by PhillyCub on Oct 2, 2008 10:27 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
last 5 playoff games
they have no hope
the pink hat guy is my father
by joeschmitt on Oct 2, 2008 10:28 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Why?
Is the 100 year thing that big a deal?
The Red Sox had something close to it, yet they came through!!!
by PhillyCub on Oct 2, 2008 10:31 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
they had better players
manny ortiz damon pedro schilling
by JPetey on Oct 2, 2008 10:33 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
at least put in bob howry so the fans can release the boo birds
it is ridiculous that we will be down 2-0 and we can’t blame howry for any of it.
by BeltwayCubsFan on Oct 2, 2008 10:27 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
It’s like the offence has given up.
"Man, this is fun!" - Len Kasper
by ryno HOF 2005 on Oct 2, 2008 10:27 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
question
do they add a number spot on the ac board
or would it read is ther only one zero in the beginning
by dariot2 on Oct 2, 2008 10:28 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Must be a TBS jinx.
"Man, this is fun!" - Len Kasper
by ryno HOF 2005 on Oct 2, 2008 10:28 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
should we still try to win the games in LA???
by nervousCUBlover on Oct 2, 2008 10:29 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
NOT
if the last 2 days was “trying” — i’d prefer they not try
the pink hat guy is my father
by joeschmitt on Oct 2, 2008 10:29 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
No, we shouldn't.
We should lose because it would get us a better, um, draft pick of, um, well, I mean, we’ll have a great pick of stories to hear about instead of the hundred-year thing?
I’m sure the professional baseballers we’re all fans of will try to win, and we? Well, we’ll watch them.
by aldimond on Oct 2, 2008 10:32 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I can't believe this.
Zambrano has pitched so well, and yet we’re down 6-0.
by kanderber on Oct 2, 2008 10:29 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Down 6-0....
and he pitched well? Obviously not good enough….but you’lll never win when you don’t score
The best defense is a good offense.....Lou Pinella...still hasn't managed the Cubs to a post season win. D. Lee still doesn't have a post seasson RBI/Run scored for Cubs...ditto for Soriano
by kcjones on Oct 2, 2008 10:33 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, down 6-0... and yeah, pitched well.
Have you been watching? The D cost him most of those runs. Should be 1-0 right now.
by kanderber on Oct 2, 2008 10:39 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Al, you wore the wrong hat!!!!
!!!
"In theory there is no difference between theory and practice. In practice there is." - Yogi Berra
by wrigley's ivy on Oct 2, 2008 10:29 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I can't even turn the tv off. We are all masochists aren't we?
2008 NL Central Champs!
by TyCubsfan on Oct 2, 2008 10:30 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I couldn't/can't either.
I wanted to, many times. Now I’m upstairs and just have it on in the background downstairs. That’s a start.
by kanderber on Oct 2, 2008 10:32 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Now that i think of it
Lou was talking after they clinched the division about how this team shouldn’t be judged alongside past cubs teams and that the season won’t be a failure if they don’t win the WS-it’s almost like he was trying to prepare for an inevitable heartbreaking choke job.
by bluekoolaide on Oct 2, 2008 10:31 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
It looks like he will get it too.
"Man, this is fun!" - Len Kasper
by ryno HOF 2005 on Oct 2, 2008 10:31 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
cubs should have went after Manny this year
by bheidge on Oct 2, 2008 10:31 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Hendry defintely screwed up
by not trying to add to the offense in the second half of the season
by bluekoolaide on Oct 2, 2008 10:32 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Not true at all
they were near the top in runs scored and the top in run differential…..theyre just pressing and swinging at every little slider thrown their way.
Okay, just so I understand it... in your wildest fantasy, you are in hell. And you are co-running a bed and breakfast with the devil.
by bren on Oct 2, 2008 10:33 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm sick of hearing about run differential
The cubs were also last in the league in driving in runners from third with two out-they were smack in the middle (57-lg. average 55) driving in runners from second with less than two out. They beat up on a lot of bad teams but were UNDER .500 in one run games.
The offense was also incredibly streaky and, with the exception of one early season hot streak by Soriano, never had a Manny ramirez type who could pick the team up during a slump.
by bluekoolaide on Oct 2, 2008 10:38 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
would have been better than the bunny hoppin dead beat we have out in left now
2008 NL Central Champs!
by TyCubsfan on Oct 2, 2008 10:32 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I would hate having to root for Manny...
…I’d do it, but I’d hate it.
"I'm petrified of nipple chafing. Once it starts, it's a vicious circle." Andy Bernard
by TXCub on Oct 2, 2008 10:34 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
i thought about
that but it would not change where we are. we MADE the playoffs w/out manny
by brian custer on Oct 2, 2008 10:36 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
To play him where?
I agree..Manny is a one man wreckking crew and I’d want him on my team….but the Cubs had 13M+ tied up in left…andd Manny can’t play center…..and not sure he could play right either….
The best defense is a good offense.....Lou Pinella...still hasn't managed the Cubs to a post season win. D. Lee still doesn't have a post seasson RBI/Run scored for Cubs...ditto for Soriano
by kcjones on Oct 2, 2008 10:36 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
him in left, sori in right
to form the worst outfield defense in the league
by bheidge on Oct 2, 2008 10:39 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
And maybe giving up so many runs...
team doesn’t even get to post season…
Cub weaknesses…
1. Middle infield defense
2. TOO balanced…no superstarts/people to step up in the limelight
3. TIGHT management
You can get away with 1 poor outfielder WITH a good CF…but not 2 …no matteer how good ther CF is…
The best defense is a good offense.....Lou Pinella...still hasn't managed the Cubs to a post season win. D. Lee still doesn't have a post seasson RBI/Run scored for Cubs...ditto for Soriano
by kcjones on Oct 2, 2008 10:42 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
At least Milwaukee lost too and two
Okay, just so I understand it... in your wildest fantasy, you are in hell. And you are co-running a bed and breakfast with the devil.
by bren on Oct 2, 2008 10:31 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Really?
We’re losing patheticly to the Dodgers and your worried about the other teams?
I could care LESS if the Brewers lose at all right now. I want the cubs to win.
by cubsfaninatl on Oct 2, 2008 10:33 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
No, the germans call it Schadenfreude
Shameful joy, taking joy in seeing your competitors fail as well.
Okay, just so I understand it... in your wildest fantasy, you are in hell. And you are co-running a bed and breakfast with the devil.
by bren on Oct 2, 2008 10:34 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
My point is
Right now I’m not worried at all what the Brewers do, its the cubs time. I don’t think you should care what they do, because my goal is for the CUBS to win, not the brewers to lose
by cubsfaninatl on Oct 2, 2008 10:44 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
go Brewers hope they win
if we can’t they might as well, but as of right now neither teams are looking like themselves
by bheidge on Oct 2, 2008 10:34 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
*sigh*
Believe or Leave ~Cubswynn 9/9/2008
by slcathena on Oct 2, 2008 10:32 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
If you had told me that Z would be in
the 7th giving up only 2 earned runs and 2 bb’s I would have taken it
by wsunick on Oct 2, 2008 10:32 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Being a Cubs fan brings so much pleasure and pain.
97 pleasures this season…
"Man, this is fun!" - Len Kasper
by ryno HOF 2005 on Oct 2, 2008 10:34 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
80000 pains right now.
"I'm petrified of nipple chafing. Once it starts, it's a vicious circle." Andy Bernard
by TXCub on Oct 2, 2008 10:35 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
...now here comes the pain
"In theory there is no difference between theory and practice. In practice there is." - Yogi Berra
by wrigley's ivy on Oct 2, 2008 10:35 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
sad thing is
there have been a lot of calls going our way
by bheidge on Oct 2, 2008 10:35 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
It's pronounced
errOR not errAH
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"Every man is guilty of all the good he didn't do."
- Voltaire
by Yepsen on Oct 2, 2008 10:36 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
He must be a Long Islander
Okay, just so I understand it... in your wildest fantasy, you are in hell. And you are co-running a bed and breakfast with the devil.
by bren on Oct 2, 2008 10:39 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
wow i could do exactly what cotts has done just now.
2008 NL Central Champs!
by TyCubsfan on Oct 2, 2008 10:36 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Biblical.
This season is biblical. What do I mean? Proverbs 13:12 says “Hope deferred makes the heart sick…” That’s how I feel. Physically ill. I can’t even watch anymore. I just have gamecenter open on my computer and glance at the box score from time to time.
Speaking of which, let me check…..Nope. We still suck.
Check it to Pancakes! Pancakes!
by Picky on Oct 2, 2008 10:36 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
We not only have to beat the other team
but we have to beat the Curse.
"Chicago baseball fans, who are composites of scar tissue and mortifying memories..." - George F. Will
by eswan9 on Oct 2, 2008 10:36 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Nevermind.
"I'm petrified of nipple chafing. Once it starts, it's a vicious circle." Andy Bernard
by TXCub on Oct 2, 2008 10:38 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
There is
NO CURSE…….it’s not a team built to win in the post season….and it was managed to get a big lead early and coast….just can’t quite quit coasting…
The best defense is a good offense.....Lou Pinella...still hasn't managed the Cubs to a post season win. D. Lee still doesn't have a post seasson RBI/Run scored for Cubs...ditto for Soriano
by kcjones on Oct 2, 2008 10:38 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Prove it.
"Chicago baseball fans, who are composites of scar tissue and mortifying memories..." - George F. Will
by eswan9 on Oct 2, 2008 10:39 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Ok my bad...
there is no curse we just cannot handle the pressure of being in the post season. Which, come to think of sounds like a … curse.
"Chicago baseball fans, who are composites of scar tissue and mortifying memories..." - George F. Will
by eswan9 on Oct 2, 2008 10:40 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
yeah but some things are hard to explain logically
"Chicago baseball fans, who are composites of scar tissue and mortifying memories..." - George F. Will
by eswan9 on Oct 2, 2008 10:43 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
and we must explain
that which we cannot understand.
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"Every man is guilty of all the good he didn't do."
- Voltaire
by Yepsen on Oct 2, 2008 10:43 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
"this has been agony for cubs fans"
ya think?
2008 NL Central Champs!
by TyCubsfan on Oct 2, 2008 10:37 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I knew it was over when....
….they said “Cotts is warming up.” I thought, "Yep, they have given up and don’t want to waste Wood or Marmol.
Check it to Pancakes! Pancakes!
by Picky on Oct 2, 2008 10:37 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
"Waste" Wood & Marmol?
I think Lou is crazy.
Sort of like using Zambrano in Game 1 last year against AZ but then taking him out to get ready for game four (ha-ha) or maybe saving Lily for game four((*&^) this year.
by wsunick on Oct 2, 2008 10:40 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
It woulddn't be a waste.....
It’s been so long since they’ve pitched I wouldn’t count on them being effective next time they’re in…let’em come in 2nite and get rid of the rust NOW in case they really are needed tomorrow
The best defense is a good offense.....Lou Pinella...still hasn't managed the Cubs to a post season win. D. Lee still doesn't have a post seasson RBI/Run scored for Cubs...ditto for Soriano
by kcjones on Oct 2, 2008 10:44 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Agree completely
What are you saving them for?!
by wsunick on Oct 2, 2008 10:47 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
any more runs
and this gets extremely embarrassing
by bheidge on Oct 2, 2008 10:37 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
If this isn't
extremely embarrassing…. I don’t want to feel what is.
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"Every man is guilty of all the good he didn't do."
- Voltaire
by Yepsen on Oct 2, 2008 10:38 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Amazing
how fast they can piss away a great season.
by jaxinnabox on Oct 2, 2008 10:38 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
it is not
impossible to win 3 straight dodgers lost 8 in a row WITH manny not that long ago
by brian custer on Oct 2, 2008 10:40 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I wanted to be positive
I wanted to believe! So badly!!!!!!!!!!!!
You can’t tell me that 2nd inning the team didn’t feel 100 years of history on them. Those are routine plays during the season.
It’s going to take a special bunch to break this, just like the Red Sox in 04. Does the management have the drive to get us to where we want to be?
by PhillyCub on Oct 2, 2008 10:39 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Remember during the season Al would say "remember where you were when this happened, it is a memorable season"
well i remember everyone of those moments and i can NOT believe this is the same team. Now I will just remember sitting at the computer on the verge of tears
2008 NL Central Champs!
by TyCubsfan on Oct 2, 2008 10:40 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Memories of this postseason will trump any memory of our "special" regular season
No matter what happens.
I haven’t felt this low about any team in a long time.
by southloop on Oct 2, 2008 10:42 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
If we go down like this again
This year will be below ’07 and even ’98 in my book. At least those had exciting moments during the season. This whole year was a leadup to the playoffs and look at what they give us…
by LerxstCub on Oct 2, 2008 10:45 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
That crushed any small outside hope I still had.
by kanderber on Oct 2, 2008 10:41 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Surprisingly
I still have hope we can pull this out to game 5 and make it happen.
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by Yepsen on Oct 2, 2008 10:41 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I hope your right
but 30 years of experience tells me the Cubs are getting swept
by PhillyCub on Oct 2, 2008 10:42 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
As long as you don't mention curses
you will be fine.
"Chicago baseball fans, who are composites of scar tissue and mortifying memories..." - George F. Will
by eswan9 on Oct 2, 2008 10:43 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Me too...
…for whatever reason, I think this team needs to get out of town. I like Harden starting on Saturday and I hope Lilly starts on Sunday. I really think this thing is going to go 5 games. I can’t see this offense going silent another game.
"I'm petrified of nipple chafing. Once it starts, it's a vicious circle." Andy Bernard
by TXCub on Oct 2, 2008 10:44 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Going to have to start a
3 game winning streak starting Saturday.
3 game winning streak……..that shouldnt be too tough should it?
by bheidge on Oct 2, 2008 10:41 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
we would have to beat lowe
would be real tough. these dodgers pitchers are great
the pink hat guy is my father
by joeschmitt on Oct 2, 2008 10:42 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
For those keeping score at home....
….if we go on to lose this we’ve lost 8 playoff games in a row, going back to ’03.
I say at this point, the only chance we have is to shake things up tomorrow. Bench theriot. Play Cedeno. Bench Edmonds and play Reed. Bench Fukudome. Definitely. Play Pie. Bench DeRo (like the fist of an angry god) and play Fontenot. These guys out there tonight don’t deserve another chance in my book.
I’m not even mad. Just disappointed in myself for actually thinking this year would be different. It’s never gonna be different until we get some players who can perform under pressure. And these aren’t them. I believed, and they fooled me. Again. Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice (or thrice, or more) shame on me.
Fuck you Cubs. I want my life back.
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by RightFieldSucks on Oct 2, 2008 10:42 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
What about DLee?
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by eswan9 on Oct 2, 2008 10:44 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hard to argue with this.
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by eswan9 on Oct 2, 2008 10:45 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
My history isn't the best
but is the division series in 2003 the only postseason series that we have won since 1908?
by wsunick on Oct 2, 2008 10:46 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
lol definately not
Idk bout you but unless we were gifted WS trip in ‘45. But I’m also not good on history, and this is probably my first true season as a cubs fan. I’ve always been a fan but im only 15 now, I’ve never really followed it until this year.
by cubsfaninatl on Oct 2, 2008 10:48 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
There were no playoffs in 1945
The teams with the best record from each league went straight to the WS.
by LerxstCub on Oct 2, 2008 10:50 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Nobody's singing the stretch
can’t blame em
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by RightFieldSucks on Oct 2, 2008 10:42 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I hate their fucking
postseason theme song
by bheidge on Oct 2, 2008 10:44 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Well I am totally over Derrek Lee
2008 NL Central Champs!
by TyCubsfan on Oct 2, 2008 10:44 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I mean Captain Lee
you know, the supposed leader of this team. Where is the drive to win?
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by TyCubsfan on Oct 2, 2008 10:46 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
The only guy
who ever shows that he wants to win is Z – that’s why he is my favorite Cub.
by wsunick on Oct 2, 2008 10:48 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
not true
dempster and kerry do too
by gocubsgoradio720 on Oct 2, 2008 10:53 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I have respect
for Kerry for all that he has been through. Demp is still up in the air. I was rooting like hell for him last night but he choked.
by wsunick on Oct 2, 2008 10:55 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
This game changed in the bottom of the first
when sori got to 2nd with no outs and we couldn’t bring him in
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by RightFieldSucks on Oct 2, 2008 10:46 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
warning track power
like everyone else on this team
by bheidge on Oct 2, 2008 10:46 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
swinging for the fences
also like everyone
by JPetey on Oct 2, 2008 10:46 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Z or Harden
should have been going game 1
by bheidge on Oct 2, 2008 10:46 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Hindsight
I agreed with Dempster and I stand by it… It just didn’t play out well.
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by Yepsen on Oct 2, 2008 10:47 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
We still only scored 2 runs
I don’t care who started we won’t win with just 2 runs.
by LerxstCub on Oct 2, 2008 10:48 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
na
i agree with al, dempster was the right call in game 1, lou blew it by not taking him out when he should have.
by gocubsgoradio720 on Oct 2, 2008 10:54 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
i would not use
marmol or wood. put samardzija back in there, imo…
by brian custer on Oct 2, 2008 10:46 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Agree 100%
Get their arms stretched out….and hope you need them this weekend
The best defense is a good offense.....Lou Pinella...still hasn't managed the Cubs to a post season win. D. Lee still doesn't have a post seasson RBI/Run scored for Cubs...ditto for Soriano
by kcjones on Oct 2, 2008 10:49 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Lee is completely done.
He brings absolutely nothing positive to the team, and if he’s a team leader, we’re in trouble. No team should take on his personality, or they’ll be a bunch of nice guys who don’t get too down over losses.
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by D98 on Oct 2, 2008 10:47 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Empty the bench like we did against the Rockies. They might want to win...
Henry Blanco won’t go down without a fight. pfft
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by TyCubsfan on Oct 2, 2008 10:48 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
never thought I'd say this
but trade him. This off-season. He’s on a downward slope and his value’s only getting lower. Hoffpauir’s gonna have to be the future.
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by RightFieldSucks on Oct 2, 2008 10:49 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Would this be a good time...
to remind everyone that the Cubs lead the league in innings where they score five or more runs?
We could use two of those.
Check it to Pancakes! Pancakes!
by Picky on Oct 2, 2008 10:48 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
would this be a good time to remind you that we have 3 hits tonight......and 3 errors?
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by RightFieldSucks on Oct 2, 2008 10:49 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Like Uggla at the ASG only without the hits.
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by TyCubsfan on Oct 2, 2008 10:50 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
the cubs also led the league with 97 wins
this is the playoffs
the cubs choked
by dariot2 on Oct 2, 2008 10:51 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Totally outplayed and outclassed
by the Dodgers.
What a waste of a season!?!?!?!
by PhillyCub on Oct 2, 2008 10:48 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Let's not forget...
OUTMANAGED
The best defense is a good offense.....Lou Pinella...still hasn't managed the Cubs to a post season win. D. Lee still doesn't have a post seasson RBI/Run scored for Cubs...ditto for Soriano
by kcjones on Oct 2, 2008 10:50 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Time for the token run...
As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.
by santoswoodenlegs on Oct 2, 2008 10:49 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Billingsley is throwing a shutout
WOW? he must be really good…..a shutout
by bheidge on Oct 2, 2008 10:49 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
that was the whole point of this
get a couple more please
by bheidge on Oct 2, 2008 10:51 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I have never been so disappointed in a Cubs team.
When the spotlight shines bright, they disappear completely. They are scared to death.
Honestly, they need to keep Z, extend Harden, keep Wood, Marmol, and DeRosa, and find takers for anyone else signed beyond this year.
This team needs a complete attitude replacement.
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by D98 on Oct 2, 2008 10:49 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
(well, except Soto. Keep him.)
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by D98 on Oct 2, 2008 10:49 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Imagine the flight to LA
Now that’ll be fun, won’t it?
by southloop on Oct 2, 2008 10:49 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
dero goes the other way again
nobody in the dugout watches
by JPetey on Oct 2, 2008 10:49 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Now has 66.677777777777% of Cubs post season runs
The best defense is a good offense.....Lou Pinella...still hasn't managed the Cubs to a post season win. D. Lee still doesn't have a post seasson RBI/Run scored for Cubs...ditto for Soriano
by kcjones on Oct 2, 2008 10:55 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
keep marmol & wood
in reserve… let samardzija cut his teeth on this mess
by brian custer on Oct 2, 2008 10:49 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
You ever get the feeling
that God or fate or life itself hates you?
by epcub on Oct 2, 2008 10:50 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
no
that’s just you.
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- Voltaire
by Yepsen on Oct 2, 2008 10:51 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Sometimes I think that when I take my son to a game...
…that I’m committing a form of child abuse.
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by D98 on Oct 2, 2008 10:51 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
sometimes I think its a waste
when I kill an entire summer following this team
but what the fuck else am I going to do all summer?
by bheidge on Oct 2, 2008 10:52 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
D&D?
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- Voltaire
by Yepsen on Oct 2, 2008 10:53 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
MLS soccer?
"Chicago baseball fans, who are composites of scar tissue and mortifying memories..." - George F. Will
by eswan9 on Oct 2, 2008 10:55 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I couldn't live with myself if I ever became
a soccer fan
by bheidge on Oct 2, 2008 10:55 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
YAY!
No shutout!
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"Every man is guilty of all the good he didn't do."
- Voltaire
by Yepsen on Oct 2, 2008 10:50 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Not giving up yet.
"Chicago baseball fans, who are composites of scar tissue and mortifying memories..." - George F. Will
by eswan9 on Oct 2, 2008 10:51 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
wish I knew how to post a picture....
considering our postseasons the past two years – are changes needed? Granted, not for cheap, but just makes me think what is needed to get us over the top in the postseason. Damn……..so frustraiting.
http://www.bleedcubbieblue.com/2006/6/25/18530/1452
BELIEVE!
by cubbie08 on Oct 2, 2008 10:51 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Do NOT let Fukdome hit!
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by D98 on Oct 2, 2008 10:52 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
They bring in a lefty, we bring in Reed?
Please, Lou?
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by D98 on Oct 2, 2008 10:53 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Notice this
Run produced by DeRo and J-Ed after DP Lee and A-Ram are already out
by wsunick on Oct 2, 2008 10:53 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Those guys just aren't winners.
that may be harsh, but when you have that kind of a postseason offensive record, it’s becoming an epitaph.
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by D98 on Oct 2, 2008 10:54 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Lee has consistently let me down
I am alright with him staying on this team, but we need to find a new #3 hitter
by bheidge on Oct 2, 2008 10:58 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
He has to go.
Immediately.
Teixera is available. He’s a gold glover, for those of you who value 1B defense so much.
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by D98 on Oct 2, 2008 11:03 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Literally...
25% of D.Lee’s post season RBI’s (in 87 AB’s mind you) came in 1 ill fated at bat AGAINST the Cubs….and ALL of his post season RBI’s are in a Marlin unifform
The best defense is a good offense.....Lou Pinella...still hasn't managed the Cubs to a post season win. D. Lee still doesn't have a post seasson RBI/Run scored for Cubs...ditto for Soriano
by kcjones on Oct 2, 2008 10:57 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I hate to say this, but I think this year is our chance.
It’s looking like Fukudome was a bad investment. We’re saddled with his salary for four years. Same thing with Soriano. Not producing in the postseason commensurate with his salary. Lee is declining, and this was DeRo’s career year. Pie’s not panning out. Aram is only getting older. Jimbo is OLD, and Reed was probably a flash. I can’t see us having as complete a team as this for at least the next few years.
So get it done now!
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by RightFieldSucks on Oct 2, 2008 10:54 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
thats the worst case for sure
thats why we need Cuban, he shakes things up
Okay, just so I understand it... in your wildest fantasy, you are in hell. And you are co-running a bed and breakfast with the devil.
by bren on Oct 2, 2008 10:55 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
we have
samardzija and lots of great pitching depth. cubs are in great shape. our no. 5 is most teams/ 2
by brian custer on Oct 2, 2008 10:57 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Marquis a 2....where on earth would that happen
Not even the Royals would stoop so low
Okay, just so I understand it... in your wildest fantasy, you are in hell. And you are co-running a bed and breakfast with the devil.
by bren on Oct 2, 2008 10:59 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Fukudome is a sunk cost.
He will be a bench player, or he will be moved. He is ridiculously overmatched – I’d rather use Marquis at the plate.
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by D98 on Oct 2, 2008 10:58 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Oh, no! WARD! PLEASE!
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by D98 on Oct 2, 2008 10:55 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
i think lou has a man crush
or just likes killing rallys
by dariot2 on Oct 2, 2008 10:56 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Why is Lou letting Fukudome bat?!
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by D98 on Oct 2, 2008 10:55 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Show of hands
Who didn’t see that coming?
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- Voltaire
by Yepsen on Oct 2, 2008 10:56 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
-sits on hands-
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by RightFieldSucks on Oct 2, 2008 10:56 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
wait its a commercial
we cant see lou rasining his hand
by dariot2 on Oct 2, 2008 10:57 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
This is atrocious. Absolutely horrible decision by Lou.
And he compounds it by letting him bat in THIS GIANT SPOT.
This is PRECISELY why Daryle Ward is on this team. I cannot believe that Lou did that. That was Dusty-level negligence. Managerial malpractice.
FUKUDOME IS NOT A MAJOR LEAGUE HITTER
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by D98 on Oct 2, 2008 10:57 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
not exactly a giant spot
down by 6 runs.
BELIEVE!
by cubbie08 on Oct 2, 2008 10:59 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Two men on base.
Ward hits a HR, it’s 7-4. It’s a do-or-die ballgame in the playoffs. it’s a huge spot.
Unbelievably bad decision by Lou – literally the first time that I have questioned him so publicly. Disgusting.
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by D98 on Oct 2, 2008 11:00 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
not saying i agree with lou..
…but you’re basing this huge criticism of him on the assumption that daryle ward hits a homerun…..really???
by gocubsgoradio720 on Oct 2, 2008 11:02 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
If Lou does one thing, it is to manage for the moment.
Lou recognizes big spots, and tries to maximize the potential for good things happening.
A HR is a longshot, but that was the last chance the Cubs had in this game. And they sat on their f*cking hands.
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by D98 on Oct 2, 2008 11:11 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
He's saving him in case the Cubs need him for a big at bat in extra innings
The best defense is a good offense.....Lou Pinella...still hasn't managed the Cubs to a post season win. D. Lee still doesn't have a post seasson RBI/Run scored for Cubs...ditto for Soriano
by kcjones on Oct 2, 2008 11:05 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
It's times like this.....
when I’m glad I’m watching at home and didn’t pay big bucks for a ticket..
Federer "It's like deja vu all over again"
Chicago 2016
by tigerperson on Oct 2, 2008 10:57 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Walking home from the Red Line
I almost shopped around with the scalpers…. Best investment I didn’t make today.
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by Yepsen on Oct 2, 2008 10:58 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Did you get a feel for ticket prices?
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by TXCub on Oct 2, 2008 10:59 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
why did dome bat???
why is he still in the game anyway? hes in for defense and were down 6 runs
LOU ARE YOU AWAKE
the pink hat guy is my father
by joeschmitt on Oct 2, 2008 10:57 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
FUCK YOU LOU
YOU ALSO CHOKED THIS YEAR AND LAST YEAR
by dariot2 on Oct 2, 2008 10:58 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Dusty Baker...
Only Cub manager to win a post season series in past 100 years…
The best defense is a good offense.....Lou Pinella...still hasn't managed the Cubs to a post season win. D. Lee still doesn't have a post seasson RBI/Run scored for Cubs...ditto for Soriano
by kcjones on Oct 2, 2008 10:59 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
That certainly brings
a funny sort of a smile to my face.
by wsunick on Oct 2, 2008 11:00 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Why
is Fuko on the playoff roster and Hoff is in Mesa?
by jaxinnabox on Oct 2, 2008 10:58 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Does anyone think Hoff can ever play the outfield?
Or do we just great rid of DP Lee and play Hoff at 1st where he belongs.
by wsunick on Oct 2, 2008 10:59 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
dont mention anything that relates to lou
PLEASE…..
by dariot2 on Oct 2, 2008 10:59 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
not the managers fault here
3 errors and no one is hitting
by bheidge on Oct 2, 2008 11:00 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
exactly why FUKUDOME shouldnt be batting
by dariot2 on Oct 2, 2008 11:01 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Starting Fukudome, and letting him bat there = LOU's fault
He’s a good manager. What is his problem?!
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by D98 on Oct 2, 2008 11:01 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
It's times like these
I wonder if Steve Bartman is still a Cubs fan. Just sayin’.
by LerxstCub on Oct 2, 2008 11:00 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
He says he is....
"I'm petrified of nipple chafing. Once it starts, it's a vicious circle." Andy Bernard
by TXCub on Oct 2, 2008 11:00 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
But after tonight is he?
Everyone has their limits…
by LerxstCub on Oct 2, 2008 11:01 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs