Bruce Miles says on the radio...
Priority # 1 is re-signing Ryan Dempster
Cubs are not willing to give Kerry Wood a three year deal which might spell the end of his career in Chicago (very surprising to me)
Rich Hill is back on the Cubs radar -- organization still has faith in his talent
Organization would like Alfonso Soriano to bat 5th or 6th next year
Kosuke Fukudome stands good chance of being platoon mate with Reed Johnson in CF, dependent of course on his ability to hit
Derrek Lee will likely not be traded on recommendation of Piniella
Jake Peavy is not on the radarscope but the Brewers will be very hot and heavy after him
Raul Ibanez is not really a target because of his inability to play right field
Bob Brenly shapes up to be finalist for the Milwaukee job
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Good news
If Dempster gives us a good deal, I’m not opposed, if not also enthusiastic.
I wonder if this is tough talk on Kerry.
Rich Hill: Comeback Player of the Year 2009?
Soriano batting 5-6 means the lefty bat coming in has to have a name, I’d think, to bat ahead of Soriano. Abreu or Milton B. more than Hermida?
Kosuke ain’t the Cubs RF, that much is sure.
I’m bullish on Lee, but if “likely” is the word that Miles used, this things is still open.
I’m bearish on Ibanez and fearful that he’s Jim’s target, so I’m glad to hear this.
The author of this post is not a certified scout, doctor, agent, statistician, manager, or journalist, nor was he ever a very good player, though he tried very hard to be like Ryne Sandberg and was about as scrappy as it gets (in T-ball). Any opinion expressed above should in no way be confused with fact, truth, or reality and is hereby qualified in the following ways: 1) The author does not know as much about baseball as Lou Piniella. 2) The author does not know as much about baseball as Jim Hendry. 3) The author does not know as much about baseball as either Dusty or Darren Baker.
by DGU on
Oct 22, 2008 1:36 PM CDT
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I would really really really really be pissed if we don't get Kerry Wood back
Your 2008 Missouri Tigers! #15 5-2 (1-2). Next up CU. Jeremy Maclin can still win the Heisman.
by nji232 on
Oct 22, 2008 1:36 PM CDT
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And I would really really really really be pissed if BB wound up in the enemy's dugout.
"I see I'm not the only one around here who can't hold his water." - Final words of the water pipe in the visiting team dugout, Dodger Stadium, October 4, 2008.
by dat cubfan daver on
Oct 22, 2008 1:40 PM CDT
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that could hurt
Mostly because then who knows what crap color guy we will be stuck with
Your 2008 Missouri Tigers! #15 5-2 (1-2). Next up CU. Jeremy Maclin can still win the Heisman.
by nji232 on
Oct 22, 2008 1:42 PM CDT
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As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.
by santoswoodenlegs on
Oct 22, 2008 1:50 PM CDT
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Where have you been lately?
Good to see a pic for a change.
Tommie Agee was out.
by Weeghman Park on
Oct 22, 2008 1:55 PM CDT
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I'm reloading for next year...but I've been around.
As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.
by santoswoodenlegs on
Oct 22, 2008 2:00 PM CDT
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Get a Sync Sports Radio...
they advertised them during the games last year. It allows you to delay your radio and listen to Pat and Ron in tune with the TV.
"Chicago Cubs fans are ninety percent scar-tissue." -George F. Will
by In Piniella We Trustiella on
Oct 22, 2008 7:14 PM CDT
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most painful news of the day
my heart sank when I read that Milwaukee has Bob on their short list. Let’s hope his desire to see his son play wins out…
All generalizations are false.
by Emelie on
Oct 23, 2008 1:30 PM CDT
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Agreed on Kerry
…and what does this say, the only hole we plan on filling in the field is RF?…if so, I’m assuming that is a LH power bat…
I’m fine with that, but my only question is, who the hell is going to lead off?…Theriot?
by jbertram on
Oct 23, 2008 3:00 PM CDT
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Big Surprise?
None of it is except for the Wood issue.
Bring him back. Period.
by TheHawkRules on
Oct 22, 2008 1:42 PM CDT
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I can't wait to see..
who they target as the potential replacement lead-off man, but it better be a doozy if they’re even considering that move.
Other than that, it sounds like the most sensible package of idea and thoughts that I’ve heard so far this off-season. A good vs. average closer gets you what…perhaps an extra couple of wins? Not worth the money, especially with a potential equally talented replacement in the fold. Spend the money on a big bat.
by Damen Jackson on
Oct 22, 2008 1:43 PM CDT
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I hope another starter is on the radar then if Peavy isn’t. I also hope they try to figure out how to add a player who has a history of PERFORMING in the postseason.
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by Kinky Reggae on
Oct 22, 2008 1:43 PM CDT
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Well, Peavy doesn't fit that description.
Hey, it's a new century!
by cowsarecool220 on
Oct 22, 2008 1:58 PM CDT
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I was actually referring to a position player.
Peavy might be a nice addition to the rotation. I personally would rather have CC but hey…
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by Kinky Reggae on
Oct 22, 2008 2:01 PM CDT
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Oh, I see.
BTW, neither CC or Peavy have pitched well in the playoffs.
Hey, it's a new century!
by cowsarecool220 on
Oct 22, 2008 2:02 PM CDT
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Well let's not pretend that CC wasn't stretched
as far as he possibly could be this year by the Brewers. On a regular schedule, the guy is a beast. Peavy, not so sure about.
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by Kinky Reggae on
Oct 22, 2008 2:04 PM CDT
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It just shows what an exact science baseball is.
Look how many really good players have bombed in the playoffs (Jeff Bagwell, Barry Bonds, Peavy so far, and many others.
Hey, it's a new century!
by cowsarecool220 on
Oct 22, 2008 2:07 PM CDT
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inexact, I mean
Hey, it's a new century!
by cowsarecool220 on
Oct 22, 2008 2:07 PM CDT
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Oh I agree completely
there qre however those that always perform. your Mannys, your Rollins, and there are others. Heck, the most beautiful thing abou the Rays is that there is so much inexperience and yet they all perform. Craziness I tell you. I am so jealous.
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by Kinky Reggae on
Oct 22, 2008 2:24 PM CDT
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Broken Rib?
Peavy had a (hidden) broken rib for one of his losses.
by Kornchex on
Oct 22, 2008 4:25 PM CDT
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It's time to cut ties with Woody
I love the guy, but you can’t give him a three year deal, especially in an organization stacked with bullpen arms and considering the possible draft picks.
Everything else is good news. I assume signing Demp = dumping Marquis. One of Marshall/Hill/Guzman/ Samardzija can take his spot.
Soriano moving down means Hendry is hopefully going after a legit lead-off hitter. Brian Giles, maybe?
by dr stabbingworth on
Oct 22, 2008 1:44 PM CDT
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No.
Keep Wood.
If anything, he’s the type of player we needed to see more of in the playoffs.
by TheHawkRules on
Oct 22, 2008 1:46 PM CDT
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Exactly.
I think, the bottom line is he REALLY wants to be a Cub. That three-year deal thing is probably negotiable.
"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx
by Al on
Oct 22, 2008 1:50 PM CDT
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One would think it could be done.
I would guess Wood doesn’t want to bind the team to a big contract if he is injured.
A three year deal for competitive money with the third year having a $1M buyout option if he can’t make a certain number of appearances over the first two years. Something like 70% of a normal workload would be fair.
But the wind blew me back via Chicago, In the middle of the night
by N Oakley on
Oct 22, 2008 1:58 PM CDT
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Al, do you think the Cubs would compromise
by offering a 2 year deal with a vesting options based on appearances and such?
Hey, it's a new century!
by cowsarecool220 on
Oct 22, 2008 2:00 PM CDT
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Sure, I'd think so.
"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx
by Al on
Oct 22, 2008 2:07 PM CDT
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I do too.
Kerry seems like he’s figured out what my Mom has always told me, Money doesn’t buy happiness. And besides, Woody already has more money than he probably ever thought he’d make in a lifetime and I’ve always thought that gives you the luxury to make decisions that aren’t based on money as much.
While another team may offer him more money/years, Kerry and his family are happy in Chicago. I wish players would put more weight on this consideration and stop listening to the players association. I’ve seen so many players sign contracts and end up unhappy.
I just hope Woody follows his heart and stays in Chicago. He’ll be a happier person if he does.
Hey, it's a new century!
by cowsarecool220 on
Oct 22, 2008 2:15 PM CDT
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All said, I did just have a negative thought.
I’m curious if the current economy and stock market plunge will impact free agent decisions like Wood is facing. Yes, he has made good money, but if his savings have shrunk 30%, he may not be as charitible at the bargaining table.
But the wind blew me back via Chicago, In the middle of the night
by N Oakley on
Oct 22, 2008 3:12 PM CDT
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It should.
But, I’m sure it won’t
by TheHawkRules on
Oct 22, 2008 3:17 PM CDT
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Heard on the Radio this morning
that some experts don’t think that that economy issues will trickle into baseball until the 2010 season. That is when they think that attendence might start to sag. Not sure why 2010 is the magic number…
"Sports are a crazy business. If there was a template, we'd all be champions, right? But there's one winner and 29 or 30 losers; one guy wins, everybody else is tied for last. That's the way it works" -- Mark Cuban
by TheRiot Police on
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Rangers Need Closer
I’m sure Kerry would much rather stay in Chicago than go to Texas. The Cubs have (m)ucked up potential re-signings before. If the Cubs rub him the wrong way, he could go to Texas to be closer to where he grew up. I don’t see that happening, but I would not dismiss the possibility.
"The big possum walks late." - Harry Caray
by memphiscub on
Oct 22, 2008 2:18 PM CDT
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Are you thinkin' what I'm thinkin'?
That’s right – re-sign Kerry Wood and then flip him to the Rangers for Josh Hamilton! Right fielder: BOOM. Left-handed bat: BOOM. Big-time power guy: BOOM.
GIT ’ER DONE, JIMBO!!!
"I see I'm not the only one around here who can't hold his water." - Final words of the water pipe in the visiting team dugout, Dodger Stadium, October 4, 2008.
by dat cubfan daver on
Oct 22, 2008 2:21 PM CDT
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This
Your 2008 Missouri Tigers! #15 5-2 (1-2). Next up CU. Jeremy Maclin can still win the Heisman.
by nji232 on
Oct 22, 2008 2:23 PM CDT
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I vehemently disagree with everything you've written here.
"I see I'm not the only one around here who can't hold his water." - Final words of the water pipe in the visiting team dugout, Dodger Stadium, October 4, 2008.
by dat cubfan daver on
Oct 22, 2008 2:26 PM CDT
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magic moment?
All generalizations are false.
by Emelie on
Oct 23, 2008 1:33 PM CDT
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green and pleasant land?
My next sig line quote will also be from Lou Piniella, and the first word will be either "Look", or "Listen", followed by a comma.
by JohnM on
Oct 23, 2008 5:18 PM CDT
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land is your land?
"I see I'm not the only one around here who can't hold his water." - Final words of the water pipe in the visiting team dugout, Dodger Stadium, October 4, 2008.
by dat cubfan daver on
Oct 24, 2008 11:29 AM CDT
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is one small step for man...one giant step for mankind?
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by Kinky Reggae on
Oct 24, 2008 11:52 AM CDT
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LEAP! LEAP! LEAP!
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by Kinky Reggae on
Oct 24, 2008 11:52 AM CDT
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diamond ring doesn't mean what it used to mean
Tommie Agee was out.
by Weeghman Park on
Oct 24, 2008 11:58 AM CDT
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Old heart of mine
Facts are meaningless. You could use facts to prove anything that's even remotely true! --Homer J. Simpson
by Shanghai Badger on
Oct 24, 2008 1:04 PM CDT
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might be the last time?
"I see I'm not the only one around here who can't hold his water." - Final words of the water pipe in the visiting team dugout, Dodger Stadium, October 4, 2008.
by dat cubfan daver on
Oct 24, 2008 1:54 PM CDT
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is a time to remember
Facts are meaningless. You could use facts to prove anything that's even remotely true! --Homer J. Simpson
by Shanghai Badger on
Oct 24, 2008 2:06 PM CDT
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little piggy
Tommie Agee was out.
by Weeghman Park on
Oct 24, 2008 2:10 PM CDT
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is it?
"Hats for bats.....keep bats warm." - Pedro Cerrano
"Hey bartender, Jobu needs a refill !!!!!!!" - Eddie Harris
by willie mays hayes' gloves on
Oct 24, 2008 2:11 PM CDT
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is the End?
My next sig line quote will also be from Lou Piniella, and the first word will be either "Look", or "Listen", followed by a comma.
by JohnM on
Oct 25, 2008 5:55 AM CDT
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Nice thought. Serious violation of the CBA.
Won’t happen.
"I've never complained about it. I'm thankful to have a jersey." Mark DeRosa, 22 Aug 2007
by DeRoMyHero on
Oct 22, 2008 2:25 PM CDT
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CBA Schmee-BA.
I’m lookin’ for power, baby, power!
"I see I'm not the only one around here who can't hold his water." - Final words of the water pipe in the visiting team dugout, Dodger Stadium, October 4, 2008.
by dat cubfan daver on
Oct 22, 2008 2:27 PM CDT
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Crazier thought
Sign Wood, flip Marmol to Texas for Hamilton. Use Guzman, Samardzija as setup men.
I love to play baseball. I'm a baseball player. I've always been a baseball player. I'm still a baseball player. That's who I am. - Ryne Sandberg
by Trey2317 on
Oct 22, 2008 3:19 PM CDT
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I think that Jon Daniels is smart emough to know that RPs have very short shelf lives...
"I've never complained about it. I'm thankful to have a jersey." Mark DeRosa, 22 Aug 2007
by DeRoMyHero on
Oct 22, 2008 3:25 PM CDT
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But Marmol is young enough to be enticing
and he’d be under Texas’ control for a while.
It’s just a thought out of left field, so to speak.
And there’s no guarantee on Hamilton either – he’s been nicked up the last few years.
I love to play baseball. I'm a baseball player. I've always been a baseball player. I'm still a baseball player. That's who I am. - Ryne Sandberg
by Trey2317 on
Oct 22, 2008 3:27 PM CDT
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That would be amazing..
ly stupid on the Rangers part, but if we got them to bite, I’m all for it.
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Oct 23, 2008 3:03 PM CDT
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They need pitching help
So perhaps a platter of Marmol (to close for Texas), along with some other arms would be intriguing to them.
I doubt it would happen – I could see the Cubs signing Bradley instead – but might worth a phone call.
I love to play baseball. I'm a baseball player. I've always been a baseball player. I'm still a baseball player. That's who I am. - Ryne Sandberg
by Trey2317 on
Oct 23, 2008 3:25 PM CDT
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I could totally live with that.
"I see I'm not the only one around here who can't hold his water." - Final words of the water pipe in the visiting team dugout, Dodger Stadium, October 4, 2008.
by dat cubfan daver on
Oct 22, 2008 3:25 PM CDT
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I think I could, too, oddly enough.
Marmol could bring back decent value, now that I think about trading him.
I love to play baseball. I'm a baseball player. I've always been a baseball player. I'm still a baseball player. That's who I am. - Ryne Sandberg
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Oct 22, 2008 3:28 PM CDT
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The good news is Jim Hendry
has done a very good job of resigning players that want to resign with the Cubs. I can’t think of a player Hendry lost that they wanted to resign when there was mutual interest.
Hey, it's a new century!
by cowsarecool220 on
Oct 22, 2008 2:28 PM CDT
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Hendry's No Larry Himes
That’s a really good thing. Keep Kerry, please!
"The big possum walks late." - Harry Caray
by memphiscub on
Oct 22, 2008 2:38 PM CDT
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I would be extremely
disapointed if they let Kerry walk. They opened the checkbook for Ramy, “Z”, Lilly, Soriano, Marquis, and Dome, so to not deal with him in good faith would be slap in his face and the rest of the players.
Sign him.
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Oct 22, 2008 3:09 PM CDT
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I think some people here are just
to have to agree to disagree with you on this, myself included. All of those contracts were to players who were either younger than Kerry, or presented little health risk. That said, it’s difficult to imagine for most giving any closer, especially one entering their 30’s — and with significant medical history — a long-term deal.
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Oct 22, 2008 3:14 PM CDT
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That is fine
my take is sign Wood to a 2 year deal with the 3rd year a mutual option. Have incentives in the deal. But to throw him a bone on a another one year deal, that would be wrong. Wood needs to get a fair deal.
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by Grockcubs on
Oct 22, 2008 3:34 PM CDT
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That's my take on it too...
but pass 3/27, I’d let him walk.
by Damen Jackson on
Oct 22, 2008 3:49 PM CDT
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What health risk?
Wood’s elbow and shoulder were 100% fine in 2008. He missed time with a blister — can happen to any pitcher and should not recur.
"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx
by Al on
Oct 23, 2008 8:17 AM CDT
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Fair or not, he's always going to have that stigma
Because of his history, Wood will always be considered a health risk – like Ben Sheets.
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by Shanghai Badger on
Oct 23, 2008 8:20 AM CDT
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You can't
ignore the cumulative effect of such a long medical history on any man — especially a pro athlete — entering his 30’s. General mobility, years of chronic inflammation, less elastic tendons and connective tissue. Even last year, he admits that he was weeks away from retiring during his rehab, and still doesn’t know how it got turned around.
Healthy last year, sure. But a long-term deal on a reliever in his 30s, with a bad back to boot is just dumb.
by Damen Jackson on
Oct 23, 2008 8:24 AM CDT
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And just one more thought...
his elbow and shoulder were fine enough to throw last year, not 100% fine; there’s a significant difference. I would hazard a guess that his shoulder looks like a bomb went off in it, compared to a healthy one.
by Damen Jackson on
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"In his 30's"?
As if he’s ancient. Sheesh. Wood is 31. Your guess about Wood’s shoulder and elbow are pure speculation. I didn’t see any indication that those things weren’t 100% fine in 2008.
"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx
by Al on
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This is true...
…but don’t forget, although some of these guys have taken a bit of a home town discount to stay, they have also received no-trade clauses in return for that. The no-trade has value to a player because they can control their desitinations, but it call also hamper the club when they are looking to make moves.
If I am Kenney, I would tell Hendry to chill on the no-trade stuff.
"I don't like them fellas that drive in two runs but let in three" Casey Stengel
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Oct 22, 2008 3:25 PM CDT
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Keep in mind,
players recieve no-trade protection when they have 10 & 5 rights (10 years of MLB service time, 5 years with the same team).
Aramis and D-Lee now have 10 & 5 rights which made offering a no trade clause more attractive for the team. Z will have 10 & 5 rights in a couple of years. Woody also has 10 & 5 rights and will continue to have protection if he stays with the Cubs.
Hey, it's a new century!
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Oct 22, 2008 3:32 PM CDT
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I understand what you are saying...
…but even if the no-trade you dish out only applies for a couple of years, it can significantly impact how you can change your club. The Soriano one is going to be the real killer.
"I don't like them fellas that drive in two runs but let in three" Casey Stengel
by MPH73 on
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So true.
Hey, it's a new century!
by cowsarecool220 on
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Well, Marshall can definitely take his spot...
…but I don’t know about the other two. Guzman’s lengthy injury history probably means he’ll be a bullpen guy indefinitely. And I think the Shark needs to be in the pen for at least another year. I’m not convinced his pitch selection is quite there yet and, more important, the Cubs need him there. I’d say it’s safe to assume he’s replacing Howry, no?
"I see I'm not the only one around here who can't hold his water." - Final words of the water pipe in the visiting team dugout, Dodger Stadium, October 4, 2008.
by dat cubfan daver on
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1 of the 4
I mean, any one of those players can pitch like a high end 5th starter for $9.5 million less than Marquis
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I've no problem with him under the right circumstances...
The contract situation is tricky though. He seems to like San Diego enough that I could see him redoing his contract, and staying there a season or two longer.
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I HIGHLY doubt...
we will see Kerry in a different uniform next year.
He stays in Chicago.
Kerry is loyal to the Cubs (last off-season) and the Cubs are loyal to Kerry Wood (this off-season).
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Brian Giles is worthless...
if the Cubs want to improve, they need a legitimate hitter and one who has a track record. Giles is aging and not worth the time IMO.
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I'm not sure he's an every day player any longer
but I don’t think he’s worthless.
Hey, it's a new century!
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Oct 22, 2008 2:01 PM CDT
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I suppose not
but I just get tired of players that really don’t add much to a team that needs something added to it. That’s all.
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I don't know that I would call Giles worthless
he had some pretty good offensive numbers last season and could probably be a 20-25 home run guy playing at wrigley instead of petco. He’s not a very powerful left handed bat, but he can still hit and get on base at a very high rate (.398 OBP last year w/ an OPS+ of 133).
There may be better options, but I don’t think Giles would be that bad an option
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by gwood on
Oct 22, 2008 2:13 PM CDT
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This would also only be a 1 year committment
and that flexibility has a lot of value.
Hey, it's a new century!
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Oct 22, 2008 2:16 PM CDT
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I agree
it provides a very productive short term option. And allows the Cubs to try and get someone at the trade deadline if necessary knowing that Giles won’t be back the next year
When you're eight games behind, it's like eight miles; when you're eight games in front, it's like eight inches. ~ Ron Santo
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I see what you are saying
I’m just getting tired of the aging signings that do not completely fill a need of the team. I think Soriano was one of the biggest mistakes that has been made here in a while. Yes, he has some serious hot streaks but let’s face it, going 0-fer in the playoffs totally negates whatever he does in the reg season. I want a guy who will perform the whole way. I maintain, and I know it does no good really, that Carlos Lee was the signing that should have been made.
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by Kinky Reggae on
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Carlos Lee wanted to play in Texas.
He’s got a ranch there.
"I see I'm not the only one around here who can't hold his water." - Final words of the water pipe in the visiting team dugout, Dodger Stadium, October 4, 2008.
by dat cubfan daver on
Oct 22, 2008 2:30 PM CDT
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Yeah I know he liked Texas
but there was a lot of talk about how much he likes playing at Wrigley. He would have mashed here in Chicago too. And he is consistent.
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by Kinky Reggae on
Oct 22, 2008 2:33 PM CDT
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i'm surprised
on Dempster
Can you explain the rationale for being excited about Dempster being our #1 priority?
by DartmouthCubsFan on
Oct 22, 2008 2:55 PM CDT
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I'd much rather have Demp than Wood...
…and for a while I thought it might go the other way. Ted Lilly is the comparison I keep coming back to, although I think Demp will make a bit more money.
by cwyers on
Oct 22, 2008 3:44 PM CDT
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but why Demp
why not another SP with more certainty on the FA market, where you nab an extra pick in the exchange when someone else signs Demp
by DartmouthCubsFan on
Oct 22, 2008 5:31 PM CDT
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Who Plays CF and RF?
If Dome and Johnson platoon in CF, does that mean DeRosa plays RF full-time and Fontenot becomes the full-time second baseman? I sure wish Pie could prove he could hit major league pitching. That would solve the CF issue. If Hoffpauir could become even a decent defensive right fielder being a true first baseman, the Cubs could have him in right field. Pie hasn’t hit well, and Hoffpauir hasn’t fielded well in the outfield. What do the Cubs do? Can Reed Johnson prove he can hit right-handed pitching and become a full-time outfield starter for the Cubs?
"The big possum walks late." - Harry Caray
by memphiscub on
Oct 22, 2008 1:52 PM CDT
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Ideally...
You’d find a superior 2nd basemen, and move DeRosa to right. That person would then probably hit at the top of the lineup. More likely though, I suspect you platoon Johnson/Fukudome, trade Pie, and find a new RF; a productive LH bat, with a modest contract. Think Nick Swisher.
by Damen Jackson on
Oct 22, 2008 2:02 PM CDT
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Nick Swisher, ugh.
He hit .219/.332/.410 with an OPS+ of 93 last year. No thanks.
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by Al on
Oct 22, 2008 2:08 PM CDT
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I get the idea Billy Beane saw that coming.
Hey, it's a new century!
by cowsarecool220 on
Oct 22, 2008 2:10 PM CDT
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And the two years prior he had an OPS+ of 125 and 127.
You think he forgot how to hit at age 27? I think he’s just coming off a down year. I don’t think he’s available, but if he was I’d be interested.
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Oct 22, 2008 2:11 PM CDT
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It's good to know...
that we can agree on some things.
And honestly, I could see doing Felix Pie for Swisher, and both sides being ecstatic.
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Oct 22, 2008 2:12 PM CDT
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Thats an interesting idea
but I wonder about how the money would match up as Swisher makes a good chunk of change and Felix makes the minimum.
Hey, it's a new century!
by cowsarecool220 on
Oct 22, 2008 2:18 PM CDT
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He's very affordable for the next two seasons...
which is probably the size of the window that the Cubs have anyway. I know there have been some references to not having a massive increase in budget for 2009, but 3 million or so isn’t too bad.
But again, I’m speaking more about the type of situation that I expect Hendry to be on the lookup for, rather than Nick specifically.
by Damen Jackson on
Oct 22, 2008 2:27 PM CDT
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You can just swap Blanco with Koyie Hill and get the budget flexibility.
by cwyers on
Oct 22, 2008 2:29 PM CDT
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Swisher also
would seem to somewhat fit the bill of the kind of guy Al is looking for personality-wise. Swisher strikes me as the go for broke at all costs kind of guy that could provide a spark come playoff time
When you're eight games behind, it's like eight miles; when you're eight games in front, it's like eight inches. ~ Ron Santo
by gwood on
Oct 22, 2008 2:33 PM CDT
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Yep...
he definitely seems to keep it loose.
Honestly, I’ve been tearing throughscenarios for an upcoming blog piece, and this is on the list of “moves that the Cubs probably should make, but likely won’t”.
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Oct 22, 2008 2:36 PM CDT
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The White Sox would be trading Swisher low
and that doesn’t seem likely. Kenny tends to go after players that other teams are selling low on, not getting rid of his own guys. (Crede is an example Kenny not willing to sell low.)
Hey, it's a new century!
by cowsarecool220 on
Oct 22, 2008 2:40 PM CDT
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Yes, but
we’d be selling Pie low, too. Kenny could make a deal like that.
The author of this post is not a certified scout, doctor, agent, statistician, manager, or journalist, nor was he ever a very good player, though he tried very hard to be like Ryne Sandberg and was about as scrappy as it gets (in T-ball). Any opinion expressed above should in no way be confused with fact, truth, or reality and is hereby qualified in the following ways: 1) The author does not know as much about baseball as Lou Piniella. 2) The author does not know as much about baseball as Jim Hendry. 3) The author does not know as much about baseball as either Dusty or Darren Baker.
by DGU on
Oct 22, 2008 2:50 PM CDT
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If we could trade Pie for Swisher or
Pie for Hermida, which would you take?
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by DGU on
Oct 22, 2008 3:21 PM CDT
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Hmm...
Swisher. I like Jeremy, I think Nick’s personality is a better fit for a Chicago club.
by Damen Jackson on
Oct 22, 2008 3:23 PM CDT
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I'd take Hermeida due to the greater upside (and flexible contract status).
I believe Hermeida is just now eligible for arbitration which makes him cheaper.
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by cowsarecool220 on
Oct 22, 2008 3:35 PM CDT
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Swisher
the more I think about it, the more he could be that “idiot” that could help change the tightness of the club in the playoffs
When you're eight games behind, it's like eight miles; when you're eight games in front, it's like eight inches. ~ Ron Santo
by gwood on
Oct 22, 2008 3:37 PM CDT
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He's furry like J. Damon, so he's got that going for him.
Got the man pelt, the sweater by Darwin, his shirts never touch the skin, etc.
But the wind blew me back via Chicago, In the middle of the night
by N Oakley on
Oct 22, 2008 4:06 PM CDT
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Maybe he just hates playing for Ozzie.
"I see I'm not the only one around here who can't hold his water." - Final words of the water pipe in the visiting team dugout, Dodger Stadium, October 4, 2008.
by dat cubfan daver on
Oct 22, 2008 2:12 PM CDT
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Balderdash!
How can you dislike playing for Ozzie?
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Oct 22, 2008 3:17 PM CDT
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Can't help but think he was unlucky in '08
JC Bradbury hasn’t released the end-of-the-year PrOPS rankings yet, but at the half Swisher was one of the leading underperformers.
You can see here that his BABIP was way out of line with the MLB average this year.
He’s the perfect “buy low” candidate.
by Wreckard on
Oct 22, 2008 2:25 PM CDT
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I agree...
Especially with technically no home for him on that Sox roster.
by Damen Jackson on
Oct 22, 2008 2:28 PM CDT
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Doesn't he prefer playing 1B?
Would he be willing to play RF — especially in front of a brick wall?
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Oct 22, 2008 3:00 PM CDT
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I prefer 1st base side
tickets to 3rd, but I still take the 3rd base ones when I have to.
Seriously though, if he was wiling to play center, I don’t think it’s that much a stretch.
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Oct 22, 2008 3:03 PM CDT
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A guy like Swisher
could probably get away playing CF in Wrigley, especially if it’s Dome on his left (in RF). Then you could switch Swisher to RF with the platoon when Reed plays CF and Dome sits.
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by DGU on
Oct 22, 2008 3:20 PM CDT
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Swisher is not a CF...
Swisher is fine for a game or two but as a regular starting CD he was not good. But that’s exactly where the Sox sent him day after day (70 games).
by DrCrawdad on
Oct 23, 2008 12:42 AM CDT
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Not really my point...
Firstly, he’s certainly a strong bounce-back candidate. But it’s that type of situation that I’m speaking of; under 30, modest contract for the next few seasons, can play him at all the outfield spots — with varying degrees of success — and will generally give you nice pop. Defensively, you can still spell him with Fukudome, and not loss much defensively.
by Damen Jackson on
Oct 22, 2008 2:11 PM CDT
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What do you give for him, though?
The Sox gave up three players (one of whom was Gio Gonzalez, a fairly regarded lefty) for Swisher. What would the Cubs have to give up?
While there’s no ironclad spot on the Sox for him at the moment, he can cover five different spots on their lineup card competently and I’ve heard no indication that Kenny Williams is looking to dump him. Factor in his relatively low cost and high probability to rebound in ‘09 and we’re looking at giving up something very tangible for him, unless Kenny’s an idiot. Unless I’m wrong and the Sox are in full-sell mode on him, I can’t imagine we would want to give up what it would take to get Swisher.
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Oct 22, 2008 2:53 PM CDT
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I've heard some rumblings...
Nothing that I want to get into right now. However, as stated in a post above, I’d think Pie for Swisher straight up would be a good place to start, and good for both teams. But given the Sox bullpen troubles late last season, I’d add a reliever if it helped.
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Oct 22, 2008 2:56 PM CDT
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You probably have better sources than the zero that I have...
…but as a fan, I’d be amazed if the Sox would take Swisher for Pie straight up. Both Dewayne Wise & Jerry Owens have nearly identical skill sets & track records to Pie, while Brian Anderson is a right-handed version of the same mold. Pie gives the Sox nothing, in my mind.
I would have thought a straight-up trade for Swisher would be for Marshall (the Sox seem to like dealing for young arms that are either blocked or underachieving), but I really hope the Cubs wouldn’t pull the trigger on that one. I tend to always want my teams to start the season with at least six credible starters, though, so I probably overvalue pitching to some degree.
We shall see…
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If the Cubs are moving Soriano to 5/6
then they are getting a lefty 3/4/5 bat and probably a lead-off hitter, although Theriot could fill that role.
I’m thinking (in general rather than specific with these names):
Theriot
Lee
Abreu
Ramirez
Soriano
Soto
DeRosa
Dome
or replace DeRosa with Hudson and move him to the top and everyone else down one.
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by DGU on
Oct 22, 2008 2:11 PM CDT
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I don't know about superior...
but there is a 2B name Roberts who could lead off for us!
by jbertram on
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Never heard of him.
"I see I'm not the only one around here who can't hold his water." - Final words of the water pipe in the visiting team dugout, Dodger Stadium, October 4, 2008.
by dat cubfan daver on
Oct 24, 2008 11:30 AM CDT
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Wood's not going anywhere.
He’s been a Cub since he was a teenager, he and his wife do a lot in Chicago, and Hendry loves him. I’d be utterly shocked if Kerry isn’t resigned.
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The Rich Hill comment
I think that this is just a smokescreen to start trying to coax some trade value out of him.
As far as I can tell, there has not been any sign of progress in his rehabilitation this year.
Just a gut feeling based on little input.
by vonde6 on
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Uh, well he did pitch a pretty good game down in Venezuela the other day.
I’d call that progress.
"I see I'm not the only one around here who can't hold his water." - Final words of the water pipe in the visiting team dugout, Dodger Stadium, October 4, 2008.
by dat cubfan daver on
Oct 22, 2008 2:28 PM CDT
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Bobby will make an impact in the ML before Rich does....
As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.
by santoswoodenlegs on
Oct 22, 2008 2:30 PM CDT
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Bobby Brady?
"I see I'm not the only one around here who can't hold his water." - Final words of the water pipe in the visiting team dugout, Dodger Stadium, October 4, 2008.
by dat cubfan daver on
Oct 22, 2008 2:31 PM CDT
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Bobby Hill is still around?
Cubs Win!! Cubs Win!
by Ihatethecards on
Oct 22, 2008 2:45 PM CDT
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Yep

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Oct 23, 2008 9:40 AM CDT
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Maybe not a smokescreen...
…but you certainly don’t make any negative public statements about a player with minimal trade value and a damaged ego if you are a smart organization. You keep patting him on the back until he turns it around or someone is silly enough to give you a player of value for him in a trade. Hendry has done a poor job of selling up his shaky players in recent years, so this handling of Hill is reassuring that he is learning.
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It would be a great comeback story if Hill could rebound.
I really hope he is able to pitch well in the major leages again. It would be a shame to waste his talent. I do wonder if he needs a “change of scener” to do so.
Hey, it's a new century!
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Oct 22, 2008 2:38 PM CDT
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Hill has no trade value until he comes back
None whatsoever. That message was probably meant more for Rich than it was for the other MLB teams.
by Wreckard on
Oct 22, 2008 2:40 PM CDT
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Or perhaps it simply is true.
Occam’s razor and all that.
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Oct 22, 2008 2:44 PM CDT
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On a side note...
… the Mariners have named Jack Zduriencik their new GM. Why is this relevant? Zduriencik comes from the Brewers and is widely credited with replenishing the Brewers farm system. Since joining the Brewers in 1999 Zduriencik was responsible for the team drafting the likes of Prince Fielder, Ryan Braun, Yovanni Gaillardo and so on…
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Good for him!
He did a great job with the Brewers and deserves a chance to be a GM.
Hey, it's a new century!
by cowsarecool220 on
Oct 22, 2008 2:34 PM CDT
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Good...now let's get him to trade Ichiro to us for Marmol and Pie.
As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.
by santoswoodenlegs on
Oct 22, 2008 2:39 PM CDT
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How about Ichiro for Soriano straight up
I mean the salary is the same
Your 2008 Missouri Tigers! #15 5-2 (1-2). Next up CU. Jeremy Maclin can still win the Heisman.
by nji232 on
Oct 22, 2008 3:46 PM CDT
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Doubt any Cub fan would hesitate.
Can’t see why Seattle would make the move.
But the wind blew me back via Chicago, In the middle of the night
by N Oakley on
Oct 22, 2008 4:07 PM CDT
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Can you think of an organization that's paid so much money for nothing?
The Mariners have spent so much money over the last few years (Silva, Sexson, Bedard) and are still one of the worst teams in baseball. Carlos Silva has to be one of the worst free agent signings last year (Andrew Jones was the absolute worst). They unloaded a boatload of prospects for Erik Bedard who turned out to be a bust and not just because he was injured.
It will take several years for the new GM to clean up the mess of the last regime. To start, they need to trade off the movable parts. The problem is, the ownership has shown to be unwilling to move their most coveted player, Ichiro.
It will be interesting if the Mariners will have a change of philosophy.
Hey, it's a new century!
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Oct 22, 2008 4:18 PM CDT
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I was hoping they'd give the job to Kim Ng.
"I see I'm not the only one around here who can't hold his water." - Final words of the water pipe in the visiting team dugout, Dodger Stadium, October 4, 2008.
by dat cubfan daver on
Oct 22, 2008 2:42 PM CDT
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Good news
Good news for the Cubs. One less team we could lose Bush or Wilken to.
Thngs of worth are worth fighting for regardless of the odds.
by cubstoseriesby100 on
Oct 22, 2008 10:06 PM CDT
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If this is true
Then any hope I have for next year or this off-season is gone.
Over time, your quickness with a cocky rejoinder must have gotten you many punches in the face - Al Swearengen
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That's a little dramatic, don't you think?
A year ago, if someone told you the Rays would not only be playing in the World Series, but FAVORED TO WIN, you would have thought they were crazy.
You simply never know what is going to happen in baseball and that is why I love baseball.
Hey, it's a new century!
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Oct 22, 2008 2:43 PM CDT
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I don't think he had much hope to begin with.
"I see I'm not the only one around here who can't hold his water." - Final words of the water pipe in the visiting team dugout, Dodger Stadium, October 4, 2008.
by dat cubfan daver on
Oct 22, 2008 2:52 PM CDT
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That's pretty sad.
Hey, it's a new century!
by cowsarecool220 on
Oct 22, 2008 2:54 PM CDT
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That's correct.
Over time, your quickness with a cocky rejoinder must have gotten you many punches in the face - Al Swearengen
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My $0.03...
First, thanks for the recap, Blue Mike.
Priority # 1 is re-signing Ryan Dempster
I agree. I think he will stay relatively healthy (TJ survivors have a good track record), he will stay in condition (something he neglected early in his career), and give the Cubs 200 quality innings for the next 4 years. However, I don’t think he is a “true ace”, so I wouldn’t want to see him making more than Z.
Cubs are not willing to give Kerry Wood a three year deal which might spell the end of his career in Chicago (very surprising to me)
I think that is posturing by the organization. They will probably do two years with a vesting option. That protects the Cubs from injury while giving Woody the assurance that he will be paid if he stays healthy.
Rich Hill is back on the Cubs radar — organization still has faith in his talent
I wasn’t a big fan of Rich Hill (the pitcher, not the town in Missouri) in 2007, and I have no confidence that he will do anything in 2009. The tricky part is that he is out of options, you have another starter (Harden) that needs a bullpen buddy (Gaudin or Marshall), and that you have to make a decision on trading Marquis before you know that he is back. I’m not sure that they can write him in for anything. Also, even if he has a good winter ball season… if he pitches the entire two months, that will affect his ability to stay strong in August and September.
Organization would like Alfonso Soriano to bat 5th or 6th next year
That might not be a bad move (though I’m in the minority that likes Sori in the leadoff spot), but Lou seems to have given up on using Riot there. (Think of how creative he was with EPatt, Dome, etc. when Sori was on the DL.) I don’t think that they could count on the leadoff man coming out of the Dome/RJ platoon since they aren’t sure what they will get out of Dome. That means, in all likelihood, that they will trade DeRo directly or indirectly for Roberts, or trade DeRo and (shuddering) pull someone like Lugo or Castillo off the scrap heap. The leadoff hitter won’t come from RF (i.e., Brian Giles), because they want a middle of the order LHB there. That also gives Teflon Lou a chance to make DeRo the scapegoat for the playoff failure.
Kosuke Fukudome stands good chance of being platoon mate with Reed Johnson in CF, dependent of course on his ability to hit
I like that. I think that Dome will have a much better year in 2009, though I don’t think he will ever have middle-of-the-order power. I also think that he might not have the stamina for a ML schedule, and it’s tough to develop it on the wrong side of 30. RJ has the same problem, so they can keep each other fresh.
Derrek Lee will likely not be traded on recommendation of Piniella
I’m OK with that. The only real reason to trade him would be to use a 1B with equal or better production who bats LH. Other than Tex, who is out of our price range, I can’t think of anyone. Our farm isn’t big enough to get Adrian Gonzalez.
Jake Peavy is not on the radarscope but the Brewers will be very hot and heavy after him
OK. SP (assuming Demp re-signs) is this team’s strength. There is no need to gut the farm system for him. I doubt if he will go to the Brewers; I think he ends up in Atlanta, with SD and Houston as dark horses.
Raul Ibanez is not really a target because of his inability to play right field
Good, although the real reason is probably that he blossomed after Lou traded him and Lou is still pissed about it.
Bob Brenly shapes up to be finalist for the Milwaukee job
I hope he gets it. As much as I love listening to him and Len, he deserves another shot. I thought the Snakes shafted him.
"I've never complained about it. I'm thankful to have a jersey." Mark DeRosa, 22 Aug 2007
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Oct 22, 2008 2:56 PM CDT
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That will be $0.06, please!
Inflation, you know!
Hey, it's a new century!
by cowsarecool220 on
Oct 22, 2008 3:03 PM CDT
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I know that I work cheap! :-)
Of course, maybe that’s all my iedas are worth…
"I've never complained about it. I'm thankful to have a jersey." Mark DeRosa, 22 Aug 2007
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My take on this stuff
Priority on Dempster is no surprise and something I tend to agree with.
I tend to think they will work out something with Wood and he is back.
Why not see what Hill can do? He showed at one time, that he was very productive and having him on the radar dosesn’t mean he has a spot in the rotation
No brainer on moving Soriano. They will go after a leadoff guy and if they can’t get one, Theriot will be it.
Makes sense with Fukudome as well. He will need to prove he can adjust.
I have said before, I’m not sure how much you will get in return for Lee. His numbers have not been overly impressive (for a 1st baseman) and I am sure most scouts think he is on the downside of his career. One thing I do think, is one of either Soriano, Ramirez, DeRosa or Lee will get dealt this offseason. If you want the most in return, you have to look at trading either DeRosa or Ramirez.
No surprise on Peavy for two reasons; signing Dempster will not allow another 10 million on the pitching staff, and I believe Hendry knows he does not have the ammo to give the Padres what they would seek.
Glad to see they are cognizant of defense with Ibanez. With Soriano in LF, it would not be pretty to have another poor OF in RF.
I predicted the Brenly thing as soon as they announced they were seeking an outside candidate. Just goes to show, I am right at least once a year about something.
"I don't like them fellas that drive in two runs but let in three" Casey Stengel
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Sorry to hear that, MPH...
If you were correct about Brenly, does that mean would won’t be correct again for another 12 months?
Could you please predict that the Cubs won’t make the playoffs? :-)
"I've never complained about it. I'm thankful to have a jersey." Mark DeRosa, 22 Aug 2007
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I will make an 09...
…World Series prediction, but I have to wait until this one is over, to assure it is within the 12 month time period.
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by MPH73 on
Oct 22, 2008 3:32 PM CDT
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Hill
I hope you’re right, but I think he’s finished. His psyche seemed fragile before his 2008 meltdown . . . unless they foud him a sports psychologist, I don’t see that changing.
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by Shanghai Badger on
Oct 22, 2008 3:36 PM CDT
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If I had to pick...
…I would think Hill is done too. I was just saying he will be on the radar to take a look at in ST.
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by MPH73 on
Oct 22, 2008 3:39 PM CDT
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You're right -- that is what you said; I goofed.
I hope the team is right, then, if they think he’s got something left.
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by Shanghai Badger on
Oct 22, 2008 4:48 PM CDT
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I'd like to read your thoughts on Brenley
Re: how he would put his deep knowledge of the Cubs’ organization to use managing Milwaukee.
I say there should be some kind of unwritten pact against this sort of issue. But “all is fair in love and war,” i guess.
One day I hope to come up with something worthy of this space.
by chilango2 on
Oct 22, 2008 3:30 PM CDT
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You can't un-know something
and Brenly isn’t going to stop thinking throwing a single fastball to Soriano is “stupid”.
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by JohnM on
Oct 23, 2008 10:00 AM CDT
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If they don't sign Wood
They are putting a lot of faith in Shark/Guzman/Gaudin/Cotts/Ceda/Ascanio to get the Job done in the 7th and 8th inning. That is scary…or even more scary…they bring back Howry on the cheap. If they don’t resign Woody because of injury concerns and a three year contract demand, I can probably agree with that. However, if they don’t resign Woody because of money concerns, then I would rather have him over Dempster. A solid bullpen in my mind is more valuable than a starter if you have a capable replacement in house. If you can’t get to the 9th consistently with the lead, I don’t care how good Marmol is.
We just need to look at this year’s cardinals and the Cubs Hawkin’s years to see what a bad bullpen/lack of closer can do to a season. I heard a stat the other day that the Cardinals led the league in games leading after the 7th inning….what does that spell…BAD bullpen.
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by TheRiot Police on
Oct 22, 2008 3:57 PM CDT
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Interesting
Assuming the “inside information” tone of this is the inside scoop, then it sounds like the Cubs will be making some of the changes that we’ve been blogging about since the play-offs put us in “wait till next year” mode.
I really like that Soriano idea; question remains who will bat lead-off.
There going to try to sign Dempster before FA. I would be interested in Peavy if the Brewers are interested. For budget purposes I see it as Peavy or Dempster, not both. The issue being which pitcher can perform better for the term of whatever contract they have.
Surprised that Brenly is pursuing the Brewers job and surprised that he’s the front-runner. I’m not worried about his knowledge of the Cubs. I don’t think it would be useful enough to impact anything next season.
by AboutTheCubs on
Oct 22, 2008 4:05 PM CDT
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Trading for Peavy would cost both money AND prospects.
Hey, it's a new century!
by cowsarecool220 on
Oct 22, 2008 4:07 PM CDT
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With all things equal and no home town discount in the equation
I am curious how the Peavy Situation could affect Dempster. On one hand, I can see it hurting him…one less suitor available to drive up his price but on the other hand I can see it helping him… less supply and/or if Peavy goes to a competitor of one of his suitors it could drive his price up.
I guess if Dempster gets signed before FA begins and/or Peavy does not get traded before Demp signs…we will never know
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by TheRiot Police on
Oct 22, 2008 4:19 PM CDT
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It will be interesting to see what kind of market there is for Demp and Peavy.
Trading for Peavy will require teams to pay his salary and trade top prospects, specifically a high end pitching prospect. The key is Peavy also has to give his approval to be traded to the team that wants him. All of this will narrow down the bidding teams to just a couple which tends to give the Padres less leverage.
I think more teams will be interested in Dempster because he only costs money and this will give him more leverage. Of course, this type of situation can always backfire on a player who holds out for an even bigger offer (which happened to Kyle Lohse last year.)
Hey, it's a new century!
by cowsarecool220 on
Oct 22, 2008 4:26 PM CDT
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Regarding Brenly...
…it is just not his knowledge of the Cubs, but the knowledge he has of the other teams in the division he sees 18 times a year.
I don’t know why you are surprised he is a top candidate – the guy has won a world series, is obviously a pretty sharp guy and he has stayed close to the game.
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by MPH73 on
Oct 22, 2008 4:09 PM CDT
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TV Committment
Sure people have dumped recently renewed committments to take other jobs, but I still don’t expect that to happen. That’s the same reason why I’m surprised Brenly is the frontrunner for the job. This isn’t to dirge Brenly. Really, I think there is a shortage of viable candidates and the Brewers seem to want somebody with experience.
by AboutTheCubs on
Oct 23, 2008 1:26 AM CDT
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I stand by my prediction.
They may talk to a lot of people, but I still think they’ll hire Robin Yount.
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by Al on
Oct 23, 2008 8:20 AM CDT
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I'm not sure Yount wants the job
He left the coaching staff a couple of years ago to spend more time with his family.
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by Shanghai Badger on
Oct 23, 2008 8:21 AM CDT
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Thats why...
…I think Brenly is a top candidate. From what I understand, Yount is not crazy about putting in the commitment necessary to do that job. Maybe he has changed his mind on that, and I guess we will see.
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by MPH73 on
Oct 23, 2008 8:54 AM CDT
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Three interviews
According to this article Doug Melvin has three main candidates, Bob Brenly, Ken Macha and Willie Randloph. He has interviewed Macha and Randolph already and will interview Brenly today. While there was talk that Melvin would interview five guys (possibly Buck Showalter) it is very possible that Melvin will just interview these three and announce a decision some time next week.
Its not going to be Yount. Melvin has said all along he will hire someone w/ managerial experience. Further Yount came to coach for the remainder of the season, but thats it. I think it would be one thing if the opportunity arose in Phoenix, where his family lives, but it really sounded like Yount did a favor for a friend and was planning on only coaching for this past season.
by dmlichte on
Oct 23, 2008 11:33 AM CDT
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Wow, Melvin is really moving along on this.
Maybe Len Kasper will need a new partner after all.
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by dat cubfan daver on
Oct 23, 2008 11:59 AM CDT
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Showalter's strength is in teaching young players how to compete at the ML level.
His reputation is far less sterling when it comes to dealing with veterans.
Milwaukee has a young nucleus…
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by DeRoMyHero on
Oct 23, 2008 5:31 PM CDT
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Showalter
I just don’t see him as a good fit. While there are a few “youngish” players on that team, Fielder and Braun have been around for a few years now. The core of last year’s staff (which may not be around) is not at all young (Sheets, Sabathia, Bush, Suppan …). I think that the biggest obstacle would be Fielder. He seems to really be a headcase and Showalter is very much in contrast to the Brewers “un-tuck your shirt” mentality.
by dmlichte on
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As I See It
1. Dempster Resign, just don’t over pay. With his control issues, I see him as middle of rotation.
2. Wood Resign short term, Limit two years. Can’t ignore the injury history and I think Wood knows that.
3. Hill History doesn’t bode well for pitchers with a sudden and complete loss of control. (See Blass and Ankiel). It probably has a psychological connection which makes it very hard to correct. But if Hill starts throwing strikes we need to trade him asap.
4. Soriano There’s just no way Soriano can bat lead off in post season . The chances of him being “on and dangerous” during those short series is practically nil. He doesn’t even give himself a chance against elite pitching. Just can’t have that at the top of the order. And as Lou said in today’s article ,you can’t recreate lineups for the playoffs.
5. Fukudome This is a “wait and see”. We saw him perform well….and then we didn’t. So which is real. Was the 2nd half due only to pitchers having his number and Dome not adjusting or were other factors involved like physical and mental fatigue and cultural shock. Guess we’ll find out.
6. Derek Lee Lee’s bat has declined but we need a scoop master at first for Theriot’s throws. But I think he needs to be moved out of #3
7. Peavy I don’t think we have the trade chips to seriously compete for Peavy.
8 Ibanez Lou did say he wanted to get more athletic. This isn’t the way.
9. Brenley Not worried about Brenley being the Brewer’s manager. From everything I have seen and read he is a nice guy for sure and certainly knowledgeble BUT a very poor in-game manager. Of course he could have learned more by watching the past several. years.
by alexinSac on
Oct 22, 2008 4:50 PM CDT
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Well, I can name at least one manager whose "in-game" skills are considered to be worse than Brenly's...
Charlie Manuel.
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by DeRoMyHero on
Oct 22, 2008 5:37 PM CDT
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Re Soriano
but which would you rather have… an “off” Soriano in the lead-off spot in the post season or an “off” Soriano batting 4th-6th with runners on during the post season.???
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by digitalbenjamin on
Oct 23, 2008 9:44 AM CDT
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Wait, runners would be on during the postseason?
Let’s get there first.
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by Trey2317 on
Oct 23, 2008 11:19 AM CDT
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Just another 11.25 months and 97 wins to go
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by JohnM on
Oct 23, 2008 5:21 PM CDT
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I would take 97 wins again.
And then putting some runners on base would be nice.
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by Trey2317 on
Oct 24, 2008 9:02 AM CDT
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I should add this...
Bruce Miles was on MIke Murphy radio show and this is where the info is derived. Also, for as much as I like Bruce Miles I’m not so sure I would take all these points as gospel.
For example, when he says the organization would like to move Soriano to the #5 or #6 hole that doesn’t mean it will actually happen in my estimation. A lot depends on offseason manueverings and obviously to Piniella getting Soriano comfortable with the idea. Soriano hasn’t exactly been one to embrace change so this could be an explosive issue???
Rich Hill??? I’ll wait to see what he shows in spring training. Seems to me the organization has vested interested in doing the best possible spin job it can on Hill. Seems also that his ability to make the Cubs in 2009 hinges on making the conversion to bullpen duty.
Kosuke is going to have to demonstrate the ability to hit to be in consideration for a role on the 25 man roster. If he can hit then he proved he can be one of the best defensive right fielders in the game. Why then would you move him out of right field unless you acquired a left-handed hitting run producer to play right field??
Dempster? I’m on record as saying I think the Cubs should take a pass.
Wood? I think this is more blustering than anything. Hendry surely knows Wood wants to stay a Cub. Guessing a two year deal with a vesting option happens???
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Oct 22, 2008 6:19 PM CDT
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Kosuke in CF
I think the Cubs are dead-set on replacing Edmonds bat with a lefty slugger who can bat 3/4/5. You can’t get one of those for CF easily. I think Swisher is the only name I’ve heard and he’s a bit of a risk and not much of a CF. I think, from what we’re hearing, a guy like Abreu or Bradley looks to be high on the Cubs’ wish list.
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by DGU on
Oct 22, 2008 6:51 PM CDT
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Just say no to Milton Bradley
My goodness, this guy is a criminal. Look at the very ugly incidents that led to his hasty departure from Montreal, Cleveland and the LA Dodgers. Violent confrontations with Felipe Alou in Montreal, Charlie Manuel in Cleveland. Scary fan incidents in Montreal, Cleveland and LA. The clash with the first base umpire during his time in San Diego. And this year the violent threat made to a Kansas City broadcast team I think it was while member of Texas.
Bobby Abreu is about to turn 36. Plus I have hard time believing the Yankees won’t just throw another $30 million or so his way to keep him for a few more years. Abreu made $16 million in 2008 and doubtful will take a paycut.
Nick Swisher? Good God no. Very overrated and a bafoon on the field and in the dugout. Acts like a toothless cracker from the hill country who is drunk on moonshine.
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Oct 22, 2008 7:01 PM CDT
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Jeremy Hermida it is, then.
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by DGU on
Oct 22, 2008 7:25 PM CDT
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Is Hermida available??
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by MDBNIU on
Oct 22, 2008 7:29 PM CDT
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Hermida was rumored to be part of the 3-team Manny trade when the Pirates and Marlins were in it.
And then there’s rumors.
Rosenthal says,
Closer Kevin Gregg remains the Marlin most likely to be traded, and four teams already have inquired about right fielder Jeremy Hermida. The Marlins could open next season with Cameron Maybin in center and Cody Ross in right. They also could trade for a short-term right fielder as they await the arrivals of John Raynor and Scott Cousins, both of whom finished last season at Class AA and currently are playing in the Arizona Fall League.
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by DGU on
Oct 22, 2008 8:22 PM CDT
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Hermida is an enticing target.
Felix Pie would almost certainly have to be included in such a deal.
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by Al on
Oct 23, 2008 8:20 AM CDT
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That's fine
He’s donezo as far as the Cubs are concerned. Lot of hype, lot of fail
by lamentir on
Oct 23, 2008 10:38 AM CDT
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If the Fish trade Uggla and open up 2B
what would you say to a Hermida for Theriot swap?
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by DGU on
Oct 23, 2008 12:45 PM CDT
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Sure.
But why would the Marlins do that?
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by Al on
Oct 23, 2008 1:16 PM CDT
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Because they like us?
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by MPH73 on
Oct 23, 2008 1:22 PM CDT
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LOL
Probably not.
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by Al on
Oct 23, 2008 2:06 PM CDT
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I was more thinking cause they feel sorry
for fleecing Hendry with the JP Trade. We can return the favor by giving them back a singles hitters with a terrible arm.
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by TheRiot Police on
Oct 23, 2008 2:10 PM CDT
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Guys - Theriot was an All-Star SS
according to one of the best talent evaluators to ever live. They’d be getting a steal from us – and we could throw in a dozen caught steals as well.
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by DGU on
Oct 23, 2008 2:36 PM CDT
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Nono no no nonono nono nono
To Hermida…and especially Swisher.
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DGU,
You seem like an intelligent baseball person. Do you really think that anyone in baseball other than Teflon Lou thinks that the Riot is an every day player?
He isn’t a GG fielder, even at 2B, he isn’t a great base stealer (or even a good one), he isn’t a good baserunner, and he has zero power. For that, the Marlins could sign Tony Graffanino.
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by DeRoMyHero on
Oct 23, 2008 5:36 PM CDT
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I have hopes
that someone somewhere will value Theriot as the next Eckstein in the same way that Kenny Williams thought Scott Podsednik was worth Carlos Lee.
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Oct 23, 2008 6:53 PM CDT
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I admire your optimism, DGU.
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by DeRoMyHero on
Oct 23, 2008 7:08 PM CDT
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Sadly, Podsednik was kind of worth it...almost...
Considering the ChiSox would have lost Carlos Lee after the season anyway to free agency, I’m pretty sure they would gladly take a couple years of Scott Podsednik & Luis Vizciano, a World Series, and cash over a year of Carlos Lee and some extra draft picks the following year. Plus, as brutally overrated as Podsednik was for the regular season, he was good in the post season that year. …and the World Series ring forgives many sins.
Hell, if we traded Soto for Podsednik straight-up (I think that’s the single stupidest 1-for-1 trade I could come up with, but insert your worst as you see fit), but won the World Series the next season, it really wouldn’t tear you up that much, would it? It wouldn’t be a “good” trade, but we’d at least have something to show the following year, regardless of how much the trade impacted anything.
On a final note, I think you could be right on someone wanting Theriot that much. All it takes is one GM to think this season was his breakout one…
by MarchHare on
Oct 23, 2008 11:51 PM CDT
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Actually, I think Carlos Lee is the overrated player.
Notice how the White Sox were much improved the year after they traded him?
Also, the Astros played much better this year when he was hurt.
Coincidence?
What do both examples have in common? The pitching was better. Could the fact that Lee was not playing left field have been a factor in the improvement of their pitching?
Hey, it's a new century!
by cowsarecool220 on
Oct 24, 2008 10:47 AM CDT
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Hm, that is an interesting point.
The ’Stros did take off rather unexpectedly this year after El Caballo went down.
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by dat cubfan daver on
Oct 24, 2008 11:32 AM CDT
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The man must be cursed.
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by willie mays hayes' gloves on
Oct 24, 2008 11:34 AM CDT
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Then he belongs here right?
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Do you really think...
…Piniella would turn down an opportunity to upgrade the SS position if it helped the club? I am sure Piniella is more than aware of Theriot’s short comings, but has he been presented with a better option?
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For Furcal or A-Rod, yes.
For a genuine, incremental step up who isn’t a “big name” (i.e., Cristián Guzmán, Edgar Renteria), no way.
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by DeRoMyHero on
Oct 23, 2008 7:13 PM CDT
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Renteria
The irony is that I think Lou might go for Renteria – but Renteria’s defense isn’t much better than Theriot’s at this stage in his career. Maybe I’m wrong.
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by DGU on
Oct 23, 2008 7:21 PM CDT
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Renteria's defense will be better than Riot's
if you sign him after exhuming him from his grave.
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by DeRoMyHero on
Oct 23, 2008 7:55 PM CDT
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If you field an inanimate object
does it take a spot on the 25-man roster?
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by DGU on
Oct 23, 2008 8:09 PM CDT
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Did Scott Eyre count on the Cubs' 25 man roster?
He very seldom moved off the bullpen bench.
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by DeRoMyHero on
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Maybe by putting Big Z and Bradley on the same team
They will actually both stop being so mad. Seriously, most of those incidents he was provoked by other idiots. Bradley is a victim of poor media portrayal and every move he makes being blown out of control.
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by nji232 on
Oct 22, 2008 9:12 PM CDT
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please stop
ur making me throw up in my mouth with your comment. bradley a victim??? please please stop.
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by cubsluver22 on
Oct 22, 2008 10:13 PM CDT
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The incident in KC this year was bad
Him and Jeff Kent had issues, and lets face it Bradley IS the lesser of two evils there.
The torn ACL incident of 2007 ended with the umpire being suspended and Bradley not receiving any punishment because the umpire yelled profanities at Bradley.
A while ago fans threw something at him while he was playing in the field, what is he supposed to do not defend himself?
He has a temper, but it is a temper that seems to be set off for some good reasons.
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by nji232 on
Oct 22, 2008 10:23 PM CDT
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again please stop
he’s not a victim. he needs anger management and to grow up. part of being a responsible and successful adult is knowing how to control your emotions.
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by cubsluver22 on
Oct 22, 2008 10:28 PM CDT
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So if you were on the field and the umpire was swearing at you
Or a fan threw a bottle at you, could you control your emotions? I doubt it
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by nji232 on
Oct 22, 2008 10:29 PM CDT
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yes I could
I work for the dept of justice and there are many times where u have to have really really thick skin or I wouldnt have a job. so please quit telling me this idiotic thug of a ballplayer is some sorta victim. he’s a grown man.
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by cubsluver22 on
Oct 23, 2008 7:35 AM CDT
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well said
Hey, it's a new century!
by cowsarecool220 on
Oct 23, 2008 9:16 AM CDT
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The announcer actually attacked
that “idiotic thug.” I think that there are examples of all athletes acting like this…I don’t recall many Bulls fans having a problem with Rodman, even though he was one of the worst guys in the NBA at the time…The Bulls were winning, so he wasn’t a thug, he was a misunderstood player.
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by PurpleLineToWrigley on
Oct 23, 2008 11:28 AM CDT
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Rodman was always a thug,
but he was our thug though and we put up with him because he helped the Bulls win championships.
Hey, it's a new century!
by cowsarecool220 on
Oct 23, 2008 11:55 AM CDT
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Exactly...
…So if someone like Bradley came here, and the Cubs (or Sox) succeeded with him, don’t you think the sentiments would change and would resemble the way people felt about Rodman?
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by PurpleLineToWrigley on
Oct 23, 2008 12:04 PM CDT
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Yes they would
Look across town at AJ. Sox fans hated him when he was on the Twins because he was a trouble maker, now they love him because he is their trouble maker, and he can play.
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by nji232 on
Oct 23, 2008 12:07 PM CDT
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Amen, brother.
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by PurpleLineToWrigley on
Oct 23, 2008 1:29 PM CDT
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My biggest concern with Bradley
would be how he handled the fans and media in Chicago. I’m not going to act like I know what sets him off, but I would be concerned to how he would react if he was consistently being booed, as had happened to RFers of the past (I’m thinking of Jacque Jones).
While I don’t think he’d charge the stands at a booing fan, I think it could have the potential to be a powder keg if he reacted to it through the media and spouted off about the fans.
I love to play baseball. I'm a baseball player. I've always been a baseball player. I'm still a baseball player. That's who I am. - Ryne Sandberg
by Trey2317 on
Oct 23, 2008 8:41 AM CDT
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Hopefully Bradley would play well enough to not be booed
The guy hit .321/.436/.563 last year. Granted it was in Texas, but still the guy can hit, if he is able to play RF why the heck not sign him? No way in hell he is more of a potential clubhouse issue than Big Z who has pissed off teammates and fans many times.
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by nji232 on
Oct 23, 2008 12:03 PM CDT
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From everything I've read
his teammates (aside from Jeff Kent) have usually been on his side, and attest that he’s a great teammate.
I think it would be a Rodman-like situation, where if he’s playing well, the fans would embrace him.
I love to play baseball. I'm a baseball player. I've always been a baseball player. I'm still a baseball player. That's who I am. - Ryne Sandberg
by Trey2317 on
Oct 23, 2008 12:12 PM CDT
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It seems that is always the case with the former bad guy or team killer.
Jim Edmonds, Bob Probert, Dennis Rodman, Erik Kramer, Moises Alou. Derrick Lee even qualifies. The qualification is playing well.
But the wind blew me back via Chicago, In the middle of the night
by N Oakley on
Oct 23, 2008 12:20 PM CDT
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As long as Milton is healthy
I think he’d play well. He’d be a year removed from ACL surgery.
I love to play baseball. I'm a baseball player. I've always been a baseball player. I'm still a baseball player. That's who I am. - Ryne Sandberg
by Trey2317 on
Oct 23, 2008 12:24 PM CDT
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you can consider me as being on the "sign Bradley" camp
hits lefty, can rake, and can be signed to a 2 yr deal at reasonable rate
by philadelphiacub on
Oct 23, 2008 1:32 PM CDT
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And he has had some professional help lately
to control his emotions.
Tommie Agee was out.
by Weeghman Park on
Oct 23, 2008 1:34 PM CDT
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milton bradley
just missed winning a batting title this year, um i think i could handle that, and he will not be expensive.
bring up felix.
by kylejo on
Oct 27, 2008 8:21 AM CDT
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Kerry
I predict Cubs and Wood compromise on 2 years with an option that automatically kicks in upon reaching certain incentives.
Thngs of worth are worth fighting for regardless of the odds.
by cubstoseriesby100 on
Oct 22, 2008 6:52 PM CDT
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I think that too
"Not that I don't feel like I'm part of the team, by no means, but when you get that nice celebration coming into the dugout and you're getting your ass hammered by guys, it's no better feeling than to have that done.'' -- Matt Stairs (aka The Professional Hitter)
by MDBNIU on
Oct 22, 2008 7:02 PM CDT
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This is all too easy
First of all you all know my feelings on BB. The day he is out of the Cubs booth is the day I pop the bubbly on the finest bottle of champagne I can find at my local gas station.
Okay here we go. Get the Brian Roberts trade done already. I’m not exactly sure what we trade, but not Marshall. Roberts only has one year left on his contract, so Marshall would be too much to give up. Pie and some prospects? Anyway, this does so many things for us.
Gives us another left handed bat. Gives us a true leadoff man and another threat on the base pads (40 steals last year). This allows us to move Sori down to the 5 hole. Gives us a true 2nd baseman. Free’s up DeRosa to move to right. Which free’s up Dome to plato


