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World Series Game #2: Phillies vs. Rays, Thursday 10/23, 7:35 CT

After tonight, the series moves to Philadelphia, where there's a good chance rain may postpone game 3 on Saturday.

MLB.com Gameday for World Series Game #1 -- game time 7:35 pm CT

Today's Starting Pitchers
Brett Myers
B. Myers
Phillies
vs. James Shields
J. Shields
Rays
10-13 W-L 14-8
4.55 ERA 3.56
163 SO 160
65 BB 40
29 HR 24
vs. TB -- vs. Phi

Baseball-reference.com game preview

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Don't everybody jump on the gamethread at once...

I kinda thing this one’s gonna be a home run derby. Shields can have difficulties early in games, and Myers as a #2 in the World Series isn’t something I’m feelin’. The Rays will probably even this series up tonight.

Dan

Evey Hammond: Vi Veri Veniversum Vivus Vici. V: By the power of truth, I, while living, have conquered the universe.

by dtpollitt on Oct 23, 2008 7:16 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

If anybody knows what Woot! is...

their most recent Woot-Off item’s comments mentioned the Cubs, and I think it’s quite funny. A strong jab us Cubbies fans…

Found here.

(new window)

Dan

Evey Hammond: Vi Veri Veniversum Vivus Vici. V: By the power of truth, I, while living, have conquered the universe.

by dtpollitt on Oct 23, 2008 7:26 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

What do you know

I always thought “woot” was just something obnoxious people (like me) said.

by AceCubbie on Oct 24, 2008 7:25 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

w00t!

Evey Hammond: Vi Veri Veniversum Vivus Vici. V: By the power of truth, I, while living, have conquered the universe.

by dtpollitt on Oct 24, 2008 8:29 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Fox's "Keys To The Game"

aren’t actually keys.

Philly’s was: “Where’s Ryan Howard?”, which to that I retort, at first base.

And the Devil Rays’ was: “Don’t wanna go to Philly 0-2”. No shit.

Evey Hammond: Vi Veri Veniversum Vivus Vici. V: By the power of truth, I, while living, have conquered the universe.

by dtpollitt on Oct 23, 2008 7:30 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Evan Longoria

makes me bones shiver.

Evey Hammond: Vi Veri Veniversum Vivus Vici. V: By the power of truth, I, while living, have conquered the universe.

by dtpollitt on Oct 23, 2008 7:34 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

How can we have more comments

in an imaginary game thread by SWL, but FIVE in a real-life championship game?

Evey Hammond: Vi Veri Veniversum Vivus Vici. V: By the power of truth, I, while living, have conquered the universe.

by dtpollitt on Oct 23, 2008 7:36 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Six

My best game plan is to sit on the bench and call out specific instructions like 'C'mon Boog,' 'Get ahold of one, Frank,' or 'Let's go, Brooks.' -Earl Weaver

by Baltimo on Oct 23, 2008 7:36 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Seven

"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al on Oct 23, 2008 7:48 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

boom outta here

2009 Cubs: Well, Seems so far away..

by Chanman25 on Oct 23, 2008 7:50 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

There's no way in hell Brett Myers' curve is one of the best five in baseball.

Here’s some dudes I can think of with much better curves:

Zito
Oswalt
maybe Wood?
King Felix
Halladay

Wasn’t Prior’s pretty sick a few years ago, too?

Anyway, Myers’ curve isn’t top 5, I’m certain it’s probably not even top 10. FOX, you’re idiots.

Evey Hammond: Vi Veri Veniversum Vivus Vici. V: By the power of truth, I, while living, have conquered the universe.

by dtpollitt on Oct 23, 2008 7:53 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

How can you SAY that!

Joe Buck’s so good, he can even remember what sport he’s announcing tonight!

by cwyers on Oct 23, 2008 8:03 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

What up Colin.

You always been a regular at GROTA or just writing there more and more now? I’ve noticed you around there more often.

Dan

Evey Hammond: Vi Veri Veniversum Vivus Vici. V: By the power of truth, I, while living, have conquered the universe.

by dtpollitt on Oct 23, 2008 8:12 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I started writing for them a few months ago.

They wanted to diversify their portfolio a bit, I guess. Every so often I get complains about “yet another Theriot bashing post,” which is weird, because I can’t think of what else I would be brought on board for. :)

by cwyers on Oct 23, 2008 8:15 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I haven't seen one in awhile. Time for a new one?

Evey Hammond: Vi Veri Veniversum Vivus Vici. V: By the power of truth, I, while living, have conquered the universe.

by dtpollitt on Oct 23, 2008 8:22 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Fair enough.

Evey Hammond: Vi Veri Veniversum Vivus Vici. V: By the power of truth, I, while living, have conquered the universe.

by dtpollitt on Oct 23, 2008 8:28 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

AND WITH THAT PLAY AT THE PLATE...

…ROCCO IS OUT FOR 64 MORE GAMES!!

Evey Hammond: Vi Veri Veniversum Vivus Vici. V: By the power of truth, I, while living, have conquered the universe.

by dtpollitt on Oct 23, 2008 8:12 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

You be quiet, you Penn State fan.

I’m hoping the Badgers can win at least ONE more game this season.

Evey Hammond: Vi Veri Veniversum Vivus Vici. V: By the power of truth, I, while living, have conquered the universe.

by dtpollitt on Oct 23, 2008 8:21 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

You guys started off pretty hot.

After this season, PSU loses it’s top 3 wide outs. It’s gonna be a bad, bad year next year.

by NittanyCub on Oct 23, 2008 8:23 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

We are so experienced and have so much depth this year...

…what a waste. First Cubs, then 4 straight from the Badgers, and it could be 5.

Evey Hammond: Vi Veri Veniversum Vivus Vici. V: By the power of truth, I, while living, have conquered the universe.

by dtpollitt on Oct 23, 2008 8:28 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

anyone actually watching this?

2009 Cubs: Well, Seems so far away..

by Chanman25 on Oct 23, 2008 8:22 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Yes.

Evey Hammond: Vi Veri Veniversum Vivus Vici. V: By the power of truth, I, while living, have conquered the universe.

by dtpollitt on Oct 23, 2008 8:28 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Really fun video of Shea Stadium scoreboard falling...

I laughed.

Found here.


(new window)
Dan

Evey Hammond: Vi Veri Veniversum Vivus Vici. V: By the power of truth, I, while living, have conquered the universe.

by dtpollitt on Oct 23, 2008 8:23 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

nice...

though I am glad I got to see it last year before they demolished it

2009 Cubs: Well, Seems so far away..

by Chanman25 on Oct 23, 2008 8:32 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

THIS JUST IN!

Rocco Baldelli still playing! Incredible, the Glass Cinderella is struggling through this.

Evey Hammond: Vi Veri Veniversum Vivus Vici. V: By the power of truth, I, while living, have conquered the universe.

by dtpollitt on Oct 23, 2008 8:43 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

4-0 Devil Rays

And I’m not sure how I feel about Cliff Floyd being in the World Series.

Evey Hammond: Vi Veri Veniversum Vivus Vici. V: By the power of truth, I, while living, have conquered the universe.

by dtpollitt on Oct 23, 2008 8:46 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Jayson Werth:

LVP

Evey Hammond: Vi Veri Veniversum Vivus Vici. V: By the power of truth, I, while living, have conquered the universe.

by dtpollitt on Oct 23, 2008 8:57 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

I jsut read that GROTA article about Lee, the new one.

Still ticks me off that to some, Lee should be traded/shopped. Argh.

Evey Hammond: Vi Veri Veniversum Vivus Vici. V: By the power of truth, I, while living, have conquered the universe.

by dtpollitt on Oct 23, 2008 9:25 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I really don't think any ideas should be off-limits.

If you can get a player with more value (to the Cubs) for Lee, then by all means, do it. I wouldn’t go out of my way to do it, though.

by cwyers on Oct 23, 2008 9:26 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Can't we just create a SS/leadoff

like in Madden? Bats switch, throws right, about 6’2", 195 lbs, above average speed, good range to his left, doesn’t like to dance or wear necklaces (think Reyes…only opposite), and……..how bout doesn’t wear batting gloves? Can’t we just do that?

Dan

Evey Hammond: Vi Veri Veniversum Vivus Vici. V: By the power of truth, I, while living, have conquered the universe.

by dtpollitt on Oct 23, 2008 9:29 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Everyone on FOX is bitching about Howard's homer-less streak.

FOX is dumb, Part 3.

He’s gone 12 games in a row this season without a home run, which is one MORE game than the “drought” he’s in now. The guy hit 48 dongs with 146 ribbies while batting .251, give him a fucking break. When he’s hot, he’s hot. When he’s not, well, that’s why 146 RBIs witha .251 average is one of the lowest averages with one of the highest RBI totals in baseball history.

Evey Hammond: Vi Veri Veniversum Vivus Vici. V: By the power of truth, I, while living, have conquered the universe.

by dtpollitt on Oct 23, 2008 9:18 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

In 2071 career ABs, and 177 HRs (not counting playoffs), Howard’s career HR per AB is 11.7. That is ridiculous. Like Not-On-Roids-But-Still-Hits-The-Cover-Off-The-Ball ridiculous.

Evey Hammond: Vi Veri Veniversum Vivus Vici. V: By the power of truth, I, while living, have conquered the universe.

by dtpollitt on Oct 23, 2008 9:21 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

You mean AB/HR?

I think the most HR/AB you can have is one.

by cwyers on Oct 23, 2008 9:46 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Well, if anyone could do it...

…Howard could hit multiple homers in one at-bat.

Evey Hammond: Vi Veri Veniversum Vivus Vici. V: By the power of truth, I, while living, have conquered the universe.

by dtpollitt on Oct 23, 2008 9:48 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Jayson! Comin' thru in the clutch.

He’s havin a great night thus far.

Evey Hammond: Vi Veri Veniversum Vivus Vici. V: By the power of truth, I, while living, have conquered the universe.

by dtpollitt on Oct 23, 2008 9:47 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

If Howard was in a Cubs uniform...

…he would fit right in during the playoffs.

Evey Hammond: Vi Veri Veniversum Vivus Vici. V: By the power of truth, I, while living, have conquered the universe.

by dtpollitt on Oct 23, 2008 9:55 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

LOL.

BTW, that singer was pretty bad for the 7th inning stretch.

"I'm not much of a chemistry guy, you know. Chemistry to me is a pinch-hit double with the bases loaded"--Jim Frey, Chicago Tribune, 1985.

by zevkalman on Oct 23, 2008 9:56 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Answer:

Rays’ fans don’t go out to the ball game. Rarely, if ever.

Evey Hammond: Vi Veri Veniversum Vivus Vici. V: By the power of truth, I, while living, have conquered the universe.

by dtpollitt on Oct 23, 2008 10:00 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

don't a lot of stadiums do that? I think Camden Yards, Shea, and Nationals Stadium do...

I myself don’t like it, but different strokes for different folks…

"I'm not much of a chemistry guy, you know. Chemistry to me is a pinch-hit double with the bases loaded"--Jim Frey, Chicago Tribune, 1985.

by zevkalman on Oct 23, 2008 10:00 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

because it's the national anthem

…or at least they wish it was, in the red states.

by nathew on Oct 24, 2008 9:46 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Phillies look a lot like the Cubs....

or at least they leave runners on base like the Cubs…

The best defense is a good offense.....Lou Pinella...still hasn't managed the Cubs to a post season win. D. Lee still doesn't have a post seasson RBI for Cubs...ditto for Soriano

by kcjones on Oct 23, 2008 10:15 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Those bases empty homers ....

go down like an ultra light no alcohol beer…..unless they come in the back-back-back form…

The best defense is a good offense.....Lou Pinella...still hasn't managed the Cubs to a post season win. D. Lee still doesn't have a post seasson RBI for Cubs...ditto for Soriano

by kcjones on Oct 23, 2008 10:18 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

The sabermagicians will ridicule the crap out of the following, but...

The Phillies have a lineup full of talented hitters. But equally important they have a lineup full of “ballplayers.” Chase Utley, Jayson Werth, Shane Victorino, Greg Dobbs, Matt Stairs….they are “ballplayers.” We have two such guys on our roster….Mark DeRosa and Reed Johnson. We need more guys like this.

I’ll open up the floor to mockery and such. But I know a handful on this board know precisely what I speak of. It falls into the category of discussion on “chemistry.”

"Not that I don't feel like I'm part of the team, by no means, but when you get that nice celebration coming into the dugout and you're getting your ass hammered by guys, it's no better feeling than to have that done.'' -- Matt Stairs (aka The Professional Hitter)

by MDBNIU on Oct 23, 2008 10:46 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

LOB...

kills even the best of them……Phils got away w/ it last night…but it bit’em in the a$$ tonight….

The best defense is a good offense.....Lou Pinella...still hasn't managed the Cubs to a post season win. D. Lee still doesn't have a post seasson RBI for Cubs...ditto for Soriano

by kcjones on Oct 23, 2008 10:53 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Many LOB...

…can be frustrating to watch, but I also think this tends to happen a lot to the better offensive clubs because they are simply getting more guys on base. The Phils offense reminds me a little of the Cubs from 04, except, the Phils have a legit base stealing threat (with numerous guys) which adds a dimension that helps offset reliance on just power.

Werth is a guy who can take some of the most futile swings you have ever seen his first couple AB’s, and then get a big hit late in the game. As a rule, they seem to have good “baseball smarts” and they are aggressive.

"I don't like them fellas that drive in two runs but let in three" Casey Stengel

by MPH73 on Oct 24, 2008 9:45 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Wish "we" had Victorino in center...

and Utley at 2nd………

We had Stairs….

The best defense is a good offense.....Lou Pinella...still hasn't managed the Cubs to a post season win. D. Lee still doesn't have a post seasson RBI for Cubs...ditto for Soriano

by kcjones on Oct 23, 2008 10:55 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Please don't tell me

your aforementioned favorite pitcher Rich Harden isn’t a “ballplayer” now? Com’on Mike. This is one weak-sauce post.

Evey Hammond: Vi Veri Veniversum Vivus Vici. V: By the power of truth, I, while living, have conquered the universe.

by dtpollitt on Oct 24, 2008 8:31 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

No mockery from me.

I agree with you.

"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al on Oct 24, 2008 2:11 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

First time I have to admit I agree with you

I’m taking your definition of “ballplayer” to include all the usual physical talent and ability to play the game as well as that chemistry we have been talking about the last few days. I think Shane Victorino and Evan Longoria both epitomize that.

Tommie Agee was out.

by Weeghman Park on Oct 24, 2008 3:28 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

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