Must Win TV: NLDS Game #3, Cubs vs. Dodgers, Saturday 10/4, 9:00 CT
Chicago Cubs @ Los Angeles Dodgers
It's not as easy as willing it all to be rightIt never rains in California? It just might, today and tonight:
Gotta be more than hope that it's right.
I wanna hear you laugh like you really mean it
Collapse into me tired with joy.
-- Snow Patrol, "Hands Open"
Today: Rain likely, mainly after 11am. Cloudy, with a high near 67. South southeast wind 8 to 11 mph becoming west southwest. Chance of precipitation is 60%.
Tonight: A 20 percent chance of showers before 11pm. Mostly cloudy, with a low around 55. West southwest wind between 5 and 8 mph.
The Dodgers have played in Dodger Stadium for 47 seasons (since 1962). There have been 17 rainouts -- the last one was on April 17, 2000. You can bet that if it's still raining at game time, they will wait forever to play this game, rather than disrupt the entire postseason schedule.
There's not much more to say here that hasn't already been said. Win or go home with an extremely bitter taste. I'm a Cubs fan. I feel better than I did after Thursday's disaster, and won't give up until there are no more chances. Seven times in 54 five-game MLB playoff series, a team has done what the Cubs must do to win -- come back from an 0-2 deficit. That's 13% of the time.
I do have one more set of numbers which may be of interest. Remember how the Cubs were blowing everyone down at home all year, and how big the home-field advantage seemed to be? Not any more. Including the game of July 23, when the Cubs stopped a losing streak by winning at Arizona, the Cubs went 21-8 in their last 29 road games. In their last 29 home games (including the two NLDS losses), the Cubs are 16-13.
Maybe playing on the road will be better.
The mojo of the Gratuitious Geo Photos appears to have run out... so he won't be appearing today.
Just win, baby. Just win this one, and onward to tomorrow. Keep the faith. I will never lose mine.
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As has been the case all summer, the stat line above reflects Harden's numbers with the Cubs only. See the pitcher box above for his full-season stats.
On June 6 at Dodger Stadium, Hiroki Kuroda threw a four-hit shutout against the Cubs and struck out 11 -- the only hits were singles by Soriano, Theriot, Lee and Edmonds. He gave up only one earned run to the Cubs at Wrigley Field on May 27, in a game the Cubs won. So naturally, with a 0.59 ERA vs. the Cubs this year, Dodger fans will be expecting him to shut down our team. However -- in all other games this season besides those two, Kuroda's ERA is 4.13. Someone is hitting him (Soriano is 3-for-7 in the two games). Why not us?
Rich Harden has never faced the Dodgers. This, of course, got the national media saying things like, "Well, he's facing hitters who have never seen him before." Wrong. Manny Ramirez faced him quite a bit in the AL. This isn't necessarily a good thing for Harden; Manny is 3-for-11 against him, but all three hits are homers. The only other Dodger Harden has faced who is likely to start tonight is Casey Blake; Blake is 0-for-8 vs. Harden with five strikeouts. That's the kind of performance we need out of Harden against all the Dodgers, in order to win.
I'll be watching on TBS with the rest of you, the first Cubs postseason game I haven't attended in person since game five in Atlanta in 2003. And before you suggest that if they win, I don't go to other road games, keep in mind that I also went to Miami in 2003, where the Cubs won two of three.
Baseball-reference.com game preview
Once again, a reminder that you can find the overflow comment threads, including the first pitch thread, on the right sidebar of both the front page and any interior page in the box headed "RECENT STORIES IN GAME THREADS". As for the other two NLDS games, the first pitch thread goes up shortly before the first pitch -- tonight at 9 pm CT -- then overflow threads will post every 45 minutes after that, at 9:45, 10:30, 11:15 and midnight CT.
Discuss amongst yourselves.
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Al!
You seem a little more optimistic than your last recap. That’s good to hear.
This line from a movie, television show or other piece of popular culture pretty much sums up my entire personality.
by ScottieG33 on Oct 4, 2008 5:07 PM CDT 0 recs
BTW -- first
This line from a movie, television show or other piece of popular culture pretty much sums up my entire personality.
by ScottieG33 on
Oct 4, 2008 5:07 PM CDT
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I feel better today.
Let’s win this thing.
"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx
by Al on
Oct 4, 2008 5:12 PM CDT
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so do I.
marginally.
"Can that be used in a sentence now as a swear word? as in "That was the most White Sox White Soxing call I’ve ever White Sox seen in all my years of watching this White Sox game. White Sox it all to hell!" Weeghman Park
by derv on
Oct 4, 2008 5:25 PM CDT
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Tell you what...
since you’ve abandoned the Geo photos, maybe this will help.

by Damen Jackson on
Oct 4, 2008 5:28 PM CDT
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Chills for anyone else?
Channel your inner-Ted Lilly!
by halfblindcubbiegirl on
Oct 4, 2008 5:33 PM CDT
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Lets hope the Cubs all channel their inner Ted Lilly
Show the nation, what they are really made of!
Go Cubs
"It's been surreal," said Cubs rookie catcher Geovany Soto, responding to a question about his unprecedented success and the team's drive to the playoffs. "Let's keep it surreal"
by Madison Cub Fan on Oct 4, 2008 5:15 PM CDT 0 recs
I'm feeling a little better.
They say the first one’s a doozy, lets hope the 3rd time is a charm!
Go Cubs!
Sometimes even hope isn't enough...
by halfblindcubbiegirl on Oct 4, 2008 5:16 PM CDT 0 recs
Three is my lucky number.
Let's take three...starting today!!
by sue369 on
Oct 4, 2008 5:27 PM CDT
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:-)
hope that luck holds.
Channel your inner-Ted Lilly!
by halfblindcubbiegirl on
Oct 4, 2008 5:27 PM CDT
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Not only that
(Or for another take…)
"The only way of finding the limits of the possible is by going beyond them into the impossible." ~Arthur C. Clarke
by Goodie1969 on
Oct 4, 2008 6:05 PM CDT
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Let's try to do this today...
"I'm not much of a chemistry guy, you know. Chemistry to me is a pinch-hit double with the bases loaded"--Jim Frey, Chicago Tribune, 1985.
by zevkalman on Oct 4, 2008 5:16 PM CDT 0 recs
There is no try, only do.
Sometimes even hope isn't enough...
by halfblindcubbiegirl on
Oct 4, 2008 5:17 PM CDT
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Ha, ha. OK, HBCG, you win! :-)
"I'm not much of a chemistry guy, you know. Chemistry to me is a pinch-hit double with the bases loaded"--Jim Frey, Chicago Tribune, 1985.
by zevkalman on
Oct 4, 2008 5:18 PM CDT
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I'm feeling feisty.
I hope the Cubs are too.
Sometimes even hope isn't enough...
by halfblindcubbiegirl on
Oct 4, 2008 5:18 PM CDT
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oh oh.... cubbie girl feeling feisty
Good sign for the evening ahead I believe!!
"It's been surreal," said Cubs rookie catcher Geovany Soto, responding to a question about his unprecedented success and the team's drive to the playoffs. "Let's keep it surreal"
by Madison Cub Fan on
Oct 4, 2008 5:37 PM CDT
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Heh heh.
Calm down HBCG, I’m not there yet!
The day we lose our will to fight - Is the day we lose our Freedom.
by sanantonecub on
Oct 4, 2008 5:40 PM CDT
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Well, hurry up!
Besides feisty makes it way easier to stomach Stockton…. who I loathe.
Channel your inner-Ted Lilly!
by halfblindcubbiegirl on
Oct 4, 2008 5:43 PM CDT
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I'm at the corner
Better be ready for me!
The day we lose our will to fight - Is the day we lose our Freedom.
by sanantonecub on
Oct 4, 2008 5:47 PM CDT
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haha
Good luck finding my place, I live on a road that doesn’t exist. (Truly, its a dirt road that disappears off the map. Even my uncle the town chief of police has trouble finding the place). :-P
Channel your inner-Ted Lilly!
by halfblindcubbiegirl on
Oct 4, 2008 5:48 PM CDT
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I'm the government
I’m sure I won’t have a problem! ;)
The day we lose our will to fight - Is the day we lose our Freedom.
by sanantonecub on
Oct 4, 2008 5:49 PM CDT
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I'm all for channelling our inner Yoda
A little Force never hurt anyone. ;)
Believe or Leave ~Cubswynn 9/9/2008
by slcathena on
Oct 4, 2008 5:19 PM CDT
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Not much of a Star Wars fan
but that quote is the one that always stuck with me.
Channel your inner-Ted Lilly!
by halfblindcubbiegirl on
Oct 4, 2008 5:22 PM CDT
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My Kingdom
For a Cubbie Victory. And here’s hoping the late start keeps the naysayers away.
The day we lose our will to fight - Is the day we lose our Freedom.
by sanantonecub on Oct 4, 2008 5:18 PM CDT 0 recs
Good point;
one can only hope
Tommie Agee was out.
by Weeghman Park on
Oct 4, 2008 5:25 PM CDT
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Confidence is high....
I repeat, confidence is high…………
"This is a game to be savored, not gulped. There's time to discuss everything between pitches or between innings." -- Bill Veeck
by MOCubsfan on Oct 4, 2008 5:26 PM CDT 0 recs
we will win tonight.
"Can that be used in a sentence now as a swear word? as in "That was the most White Sox White Soxing call I’ve ever White Sox seen in all my years of watching this White Sox game. White Sox it all to hell!" Weeghman Park
by derv on Oct 4, 2008 5:26 PM CDT 0 recs
Bottom line
We just have to win. If the players get that, they’ll step it up and keep their heads in the game.
GO CUBS GO!!!
Believe or Leave ~Cubswynn 9/9/2008
by slcathena on Oct 4, 2008 5:27 PM CDT 0 recs
Not Dead Yet
Dead Collector: Bring out yer dead. [Hits gong]
Large Man: Here’s one.
Dead Collector: Ninepence.
Dead Body: I’m not dead!
Dead Collector: What?
Large Man: Nothing. Here’s your ninepence.
Dead Body: I’m not dead!
Dead Collector: ‘Ere, he says he’s not dead.
Large Man: Yes he is.
Dead Body: I’m not!
Dead Collector: He isn’t!
Large Man: Well, he will be soon, he’s very ill.
Dead Body: I’m getting betta!
Large Man: No you’re not, you’ll be stone dead in a moment.
Dead Collector: I can’t take ‘im like that! It’s against regulation!
by 08Cubs on Oct 4, 2008 5:27 PM CDT 0 recs
LMAO
the audio of that is my brother-in-law’s ringtone for me when I call.
Channel your inner-Ted Lilly!
by halfblindcubbiegirl on
Oct 4, 2008 5:28 PM CDT
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Chicago Cubs
search for the Hly Grail.
Nice!
"This is a game to be savored, not gulped. There's time to discuss everything between pitches or between innings." -- Bill Veeck
by MOCubsfan on
Oct 4, 2008 5:28 PM CDT
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If the cubs win this series
Maybe I should go see Spamalot in Soho.
The day we lose our will to fight - Is the day we lose our Freedom.
by sanantonecub on
Oct 4, 2008 5:29 PM CDT
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THUMBS UP...GO CUB....
Most of us feel better..time heals all wounds ….Lets win this in L.A. and return home ..No errors tonight ……
by cubs north on Oct 4, 2008 5:28 PM CDT 0 recs
I actually feel
good about this game. Please win tonight Cubs!!!
Let's take three...starting today!!
by sue369 on Oct 4, 2008 5:30 PM CDT 0 recs
I do too.
Pressure on the Dodgers to deliver game 3, so important to get that early lead and never let go and I believe the hitters will finally show up.
GO CUBS ! ! ! !
by JFCubFan on
Oct 4, 2008 5:31 PM CDT
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As long as those hitters also brought their gloves
I think this could be a good day.
Channel your inner-Ted Lilly!
by halfblindcubbiegirl on
Oct 4, 2008 5:32 PM CDT
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I almost dare to feel good about this game...
does that count?
Believe or Leave ~Cubswynn 9/9/2008
by slcathena on
Oct 4, 2008 5:33 PM CDT
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Maybe I'm silly...
but I think the pressure is off this team. Just go play good, solid baseball and see what happens…
Get 'em on, Get 'em over, Get 'em in!
by DKT on
Oct 4, 2008 5:37 PM CDT
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Not silly at all.
Makes a lot of sense.
Let's take three...starting today!!
by sue369 on
Oct 4, 2008 5:46 PM CDT
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I feel much better today
And I’m not gonna go down without a fight, I still believe in this team.
by southloop on Oct 4, 2008 5:30 PM CDT 0 recs
The first of 11 post-season victories comes tonight...
The Cubs need one of their patented five run offensive outbursts to get them going. Soriano single, Theriot walk, DeLee double, etc…
Get 'em on, Get 'em over, Get 'em in!
by DKT on Oct 4, 2008 5:34 PM CDT 0 recs
+1
I really want you to be right. :)
Believe or Leave ~Cubswynn 9/9/2008
by slcathena on
Oct 4, 2008 6:07 PM CDT
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Not to get too far ahead of myself...
but WHEN we win tonight, what time will tomorrow’s game be?
by kanderber on Oct 4, 2008 5:34 PM CDT 0 recs
6 pm Central
Channel your inner-Ted Lilly!
by halfblindcubbiegirl on
Oct 4, 2008 5:35 PM CDT
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Oh, a nice midnight start for me.
The day we lose our will to fight - Is the day we lose our Freedom.
by sanantonecub on
Oct 4, 2008 5:36 PM CDT
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Thanks, I hadn't heard either.
Let's take three...starting today!!
by sue369 on
Oct 4, 2008 5:36 PM CDT
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^^ Crosses sue off list of people to go to when I need to know things
The day we lose our will to fight - Is the day we lose our Freedom.
by sanantonecub on
Oct 4, 2008 5:37 PM CDT
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Yeah, I'm not a good rescource.
Let's take three...starting today!!
by sue369 on
Oct 4, 2008 6:03 PM CDT
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Looked it up on Dish.
:-)
Hope its right.
Channel your inner-Ted Lilly!
by halfblindcubbiegirl on
Oct 4, 2008 5:39 PM CDT
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not to question the all knowing HBCG
but I thought it was 8pm. There are 4 games tomorrow, in theory
"It's been surreal," said Cubs rookie catcher Geovany Soto, responding to a question about his unprecedented success and the team's drive to the playoffs. "Let's keep it surreal"
by Madison Cub Fan on
Oct 4, 2008 5:42 PM CDT
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I thought it 9pm eastern time....
blah
"It's been surreal," said Cubs rookie catcher Geovany Soto, responding to a question about his unprecedented success and the team's drive to the playoffs. "Let's keep it surreal"
by Madison Cub Fan on
Oct 4, 2008 6:26 PM CDT
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My guide on DirecTV
shows the Cubs starting time as 9 pm CT.
Let's take three...starting today!!
by sue369 on
Oct 4, 2008 6:25 PM CDT
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DON'T MAKE ANY OTHER PLANS......
Cubs will by on the tube 6 pm Central it is…..I am going to get some Old Style….
by cubs north on Oct 4, 2008 5:38 PM CDT 0 recs
WHAT? I thought it was 9:25 central tomorrow?
That’s what it is listed as.
"Can that be used in a sentence now as a swear word? as in "That was the most White Sox White Soxing call I’ve ever White Sox seen in all my years of watching this White Sox game. White Sox it all to hell!" Weeghman Park
by derv on
Oct 4, 2008 5:47 PM CDT
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It is.
I can’t read.
Sorry everyone.
Channel your inner-Ted Lilly!
by halfblindcubbiegirl on
Oct 4, 2008 5:49 PM CDT
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Darnit HBCG
A nice midnight start turned into a 3:30am start. No fair!
The day we lose our will to fight - Is the day we lose our Freedom.
by sanantonecub on
Oct 4, 2008 5:49 PM CDT
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You're gonna suffer for that
The day we lose our will to fight - Is the day we lose our Freedom.
by sanantonecub on
Oct 4, 2008 5:50 PM CDT
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Hey!!!
You will respect my authoritai!
The day we lose our will to fight - Is the day we lose our Freedom.
by sanantonecub on
Oct 4, 2008 5:52 PM CDT
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You're the government & Cartman?
Scary.
Channel your inner-Ted Lilly!
by halfblindcubbiegirl on
Oct 4, 2008 5:54 PM CDT
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That doesn't even begin to cover it
The day we lose our will to fight - Is the day we lose our Freedom.





