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Clubhouse Cancer

After all we've seen over the last few days (and last postseason), a couple of things come to mind.

First, I was living in Boston in 2004. I saw that team face adversity for an entire season. I saw them make an unpredictable, inexplicable trade at the deadline. Almost everyone in the MSM saw Nomar's departure as a sign that the Red Sox ownership had given up on the season. People n Boston couldn't believe that the trade had happened.

Fast forward three months and look at what happened. The Cubs fell apart. They miss the playoffs. The Red sox find themselves in a 3-0 hole and win one game. Then another. And two more. I would guess that it was February before the Cardinals realized what had hit them in the World Series. After what that team had been through, there was just no way anyone was going to beat them. No one.

Last year, these thoughts ran through my mind as I stood there watching the Cubs lose game 3 at home. I was there that day. It felt awful. After I had some time to think about it, I again went back to the Red Sox. They didn't complete the journey their first time, either. They lost in 99. Aaron fn Boone happened. They were down 3-0. They won a world series.

So, even down 0-2, I had some hope for tonight. I thought, maybe, last year's sweep would rally this team. I thought, maybe, the sting of that early exit last year would affect the team the way Aramis' poor performance affected his at bats this year. If you don't think there's a correlation between his o-fer in the NLDS last year and his newfound discipline at the plate this year, you just weren't watching.

So, this week when we saw what essentially amounted to Zambrano's prematurely speculated game 4 start at Wrigley which was preceded by Dempster's worst game of the year, it was as if nothing had changed. It was as if, somehow, in spite of last year's seemingly invaluable lesson about what NOT to do in the playoffs, they forgot. All of them. Lou, Lee, Ramirez., Soriano. All of them.

They all hung their heads in the dugout. None of them had any expectation (minus Lee in the 8th tonight) that they even had a chance. Gone was the resiliency we've seen appear several times this season. Just 3 weeks ago, we saw the cubs overtake a 4 run lead against the Brewers. It didn't surprise any of us. That's just what this team did this year. They made these things happen. Until October.

There will be a countless number of questions asked about how this could happen over the next few weeks. Each one of us will try to figure it out. Me, I'll look at the 2004 Red Sox. I'll remember how they were unflappable. I'll remember each game in the comeback. I'll remember how they made all of Boston keep hoping. Then, I'll look at this Cubs team and I'll remember how they hung their heads. I'll remember how visibly they lost their faith. I'll remember that they didn't take anything away from last year.

I'll see how our veterans -- our  supposed clubhouse leaders -- failed this team on a level that each and every one of us would be in jeopardy of losing our jobs for. And I'll find myself wondering is it Lou? Is it the clubhouse? None of us will be ever be privy to that information. However, I can tell you that if this is how our team leaders run the team, that we will not win with those leaders in place. This, obviously, was not a culture of winning. It wasn't last year either.

In my honest and entirely irritating opinion, if you want to fix this, you get rid of that chemistry. You remove those ghosts from the equation. You get rid of, gasp, Derrek Lee. You get rid of his fading numbers. You get rid of his inability to energize a talented, excitable clubhouse full of guys that look to veterans for support and leadership. Striking out on a ball in the dirt and then throwing your bat in the middle of a do or die playoff game doesn't inspire your team. It doesn't inspire confidence, hope, or resiliency. Negativity is contagious and there's no doubt, if you look at any shot of our dugout tonight, that the guys sitting in it thought they were going to lose.

If we want to win, we need to change the attitudes in our clubhouse. If our veterans are the ones who lead this team, then they've done our team and our fan base a disservice two years running. Professionals? Not quite.

I think, in all of this, what really hurts the most is that none of us got to see #34 take the mound this week. That's character. That's heart. It is a shame that we didn't see much more of it this October.

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  1. pitched Thursday and he gave up 2 hits an unearned run.

by jeff_pico on Oct 5, 2008 3:09 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

in fairness

Lee had a very good series. He had three hits tonight alone. This wasn’t his fault. Look to Soriano, Ramirez, Dempster, Theriot, Soto, Fukudome if you’re looking to assign blame.

Give Lee credit for a good series.

You look like you'd fit in the trunk of my car.

by mambochicken23 on Oct 5, 2008 3:50 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

I saw more emotion from Lee

last night than I have for most of his time in Chicago. Lee had a good series. The lack of encouragement coming from the bench was disgusting. Do these guys even like each other? Lou deserves a ton of blame.

I have to agree about Boston. We need to do what Theo did and transform our minor league development into a sytem that produces. When you look at the amount of home grown talent they have producing for them it’s pretty amazing.

Meanwhile last year we struggled with catchers all year and Soto didn’t make it to the bigs till September, and was benched after hitting a homerun in a playoff game. They tried to make Theriot a switch hitter,and just look at the number of 1st round draft picks that have been complete busts. That said the system has produced more in the last 2 years, hence the succes they have had.

by TheRamZamDLEE on Oct 5, 2008 7:21 AM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

Does he ever get a hit with RISP?

The best defense is a good offense.....Lou Pinella...still hasn't managed the Cubs to a post season win. D. Lee still doesn't have a post seasson RBI for Cubs...ditto for Soriano

by kcjones on Oct 5, 2008 10:21 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

how can you get a hit with RISP

when runners arent in scoring position for him!

by DartmouthCubsFan on Oct 5, 2008 11:24 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Team Leadership

starts with the manager.

The author of this post is not a certified scout, doctor, agent, statistician, manager, or journalist, nor was he ever a very good player, though he tried very hard to be like Ryne Sandberg and was about as scrappy as it gets (in T-ball). Any opinion expressed above should in no way be confused with fact, truth, or reality and is hereby qualified in the following ways: 1) The author does not know as much about baseball as Lou Piniella. 2) The author does not know as much about baseball as Jim Hendry. 3) The author does not know as much about baseball as either Dusty or Darren Baker.

by DGU on Oct 5, 2008 6:52 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

I don't think there is any character or leadership problem.

There is, however, a talent problem. The Cubs have good players, decent players, sometimes spectacular players, but their offense lacks a guy who is truly great. They can be pitched to by good pitchers.

As much as i dislike Soriano’s approach to hitting he seems like a great guy and one who ties very hard. If he were to change his approach and be a disciplined hitter that good pitchers fear then it could really help this team. But he’s 31 and it’s hard to change your habits then.

D.Lee made a resurgence of sorts in that he hit balls and they were basehits. He’s getting older people, the 2nd half was a disaster for him. He’s probably got another productive year left but I don’t think any good pitcher fears this guy.

Aramis? Who knows, a slump at the wrong time?

Fukudome needs to adjust to the league’s adjustment.

The Cubs need a player of the quality of Manny or Pujols, we don’t have anyone close to their league.

The Dodgers added to outstanding players since the last time we played them—Manny & Furcal (health), and Manny isn’t just outstanding, he’s great, one could argue the greatest playoff slugger in history. The Dodgers had good pitching.

The Dodgers were the better team. This Cubs roster can essentially stay the same for 2009 and it will compete for the NLCD but we need another player and he has to be a much better well rounded hitter—we need a great player.

by DudeVf11 on Oct 5, 2008 8:06 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

No, we have a Manny .. his name was A-Ram

Problem is, he went colder then dead fish at the wrong time..

The 187 Million Dollar Man didn’t look worth 187 million dollars these past two Octobers. Watching him wait for the carome in the LF corner that didn’t happen last night kind of was a symbolic of the 2008 playoffs for Chicago. That will be etched in my mind as surely as Alex Gonzalez’s boot in 2003, as Jim Riggleman’s lifting of Kerry Wood from the game 10 years ago in the Wild Card game, the Steve Garvey shellacking in 1984, the Neifi Shovel almost into the stands during the hideous Atlanta game in 2006 .. ack ..

As to leadership in the NLDS, DLee was providing leadership with his bat, I think and Z with his arm. Inexplicably, the hit that got away from him in game 2 probably fired him up a bit to step his game up.

Well, Next Year is here .. and Jack's century's gotta end some time .. GO CUBBIES!

by cubnational on Oct 5, 2008 8:55 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I don't

believe Lee is the problem, this is collective, the whole team failed here. This team needs to get it together. This is from Lou all the way down to Cedeno.

"Have You heard of the Boom on Mizar 5?"

by Grockcubs on Oct 5, 2008 9:03 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

They don't have a clubhouse cancer...

…but they also don’t have that difficult to measure leadership that helps keep players on their toes.

Lou can only do so much in regards to this, but the most important thing is having the right pieces in place to be able to play your best when it counts. This club still has parts that don’t fit together and the playoffs have shown the gaps two years running.

I have said this many many times, the right players make a manager look good, much more often than a good manager make players look good. There have been tons of mediocre managers that won World Series because they had the right players, but i don’t think any manager (no matter how good) has won it all with the wrong players.

Right now, this team has the wrong mix of players.

"I don't like them fellas that drive in two runs but let in three" Casey Stengel

by MPH73 on Oct 5, 2008 11:22 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

A team without leadership

Sorry a team without leadership does not win 97 games. A team without heart does not win 97 games.

To be outplayed means you are outplayed.

Thngs of worth are worth fighting for regardless of the odds.

by puckishcubsfan on Oct 5, 2008 2:23 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Don't ignore an obvious issue...

…when it is right there punching you in the face for two years running.

As I have said, this club has some good players, but when a team plays good during the regular season and looks like a completely different team in the playoffs, you need to ask yourself why.

There is a reason for this and to just say your got “outplayed” is being very naive. The way the Cubs played:

7 walks by your best pitcher
4 errors in game 2
Virtually no clutch hits the entire series

would have allowed anyone of 20 teams to sweep them this post-season. This is not coincidence, something is missing with this club.

"I don't like them fellas that drive in two runs but let in three" Casey Stengel

by MPH73 on Oct 5, 2008 2:41 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

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