FACE IT.......DODGERS ARE BETTER THAN US

by plenz on Oct 5, 2008 9:10 AM CDT

Look around the diamond position by position

LF: Manny over Soriano by a mile

CF: Kemp vs Edmonds/Johnson.....MAYBE even or slight edge to Kemp

RF : Ethier by a mile over whatever we put out there

3B : Ramirez gets the nod over Blake

SS: Furcal over Theriot (again,not even close)

2B: Dero gets the edge

1B: I'll take Loney over Lee by a bit

C: Soto vs. Martin is pretty Close...call it a push

Both pitching staffs are very good............but all together they are a superior team.........regular season records aside. I am too depressed and worn out over this playoff debacle to discuss what to do for next year but this team needs some overhauling for sure. 2 years in a row of the same failure is enough to see that. EVERY single position player has his share of blame here along with the manager.

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the Cubs played with a “belly”, those comparisons on “paper” go right out the freaking door.

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by Grockcubs on Oct 5, 2008 9:25 AM CDT reply actions

Agree

They also do not seen to have a guy in the clubhouse to raise some hell and call some people out. I really like this team, but they looked heartless out there. The Loney GS sucked whatever heart out of the team and that didn’t happen all year, why did it now? They all say the 100 year thing and all the losing crap doesn’t bother them, but I think it does. They have a major monkey on their backs in the playoffs and it shows.

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by BigJohnAZ on Oct 5, 2008 9:33 AM CDT up reply actions

Dodgers players seemed to care

while our team seemed resigned to fate, uninterested and beaten. If the team that came back on Colorado, came back on Milwaukee down by 4 with 2 out and nobody on, had showed up in the postseason, the side-by-side comparison would be unnecessary here. They would be doing it over at TrueBlueLA. The Dodgers are pretty good, yes…but we were as bad as they were good.

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by Goodie1969 on Oct 5, 2008 9:37 AM CDT reply actions

I mentioned in another post

that the Cubs need some cockiness and swagger. A lot of people here don’t like the White Sox but the Cubs could have used someone like Pierzynski to kick this team in the a** during this series. I can’t remember a playoff series where a team seemed more lifeless and out of it from the beginning than the Cubs.

by rlpete on Oct 5, 2008 10:23 AM CDT up reply actions

I agree with a lot of the above comments....

but I’d like to add that we swept the Brewers decisively on a 4-game series, and yet they later won a series from us. That’s baseball…in a best of 5 game series, sometimes teams play poorly

I’m not justifying the listless and horrible play…and BTW I also think that the Loney GS sucked life out of these guys.

One other point: if Sori is the spark plug of our offense, we better find another spark plug fast.

"I'm not much of a chemistry guy, you know. Chemistry to me is a pinch-hit double with the bases loaded"--Jim Frey, Chicago Tribune, 1985.

by zevkalman on Oct 5, 2008 10:36 AM CDT reply actions

Here is the point...

…if the 1st game GS sucked the life out of the team for them to play the way they did, then what kind of team do you really have?

"I don't like them fellas that drive in two runs but let in three" Casey Stengel

by MPH73 on Oct 5, 2008 10:54 AM CDT up reply actions

I said all along...

…the Dodgers reminded me of the 03 Cubs because they improved themselves half way through the year and had a good club.

With this said, I don’t care who you play, you have to show up with your A game to be able to beat them. People can talk forever about they should have faced the Mets, but you are ignoring the big picture here. For two years running, this club was swept out of the playoffs and looked really bad doing it.

No more BS talk about the crowd, who they played, umpires and whatever other excuse folks can create – the core players here have proven they don’t have what it takes to respond to playoff baseball.

This is going to be the most interesting offseason in the history of the Chicago Cubs, bar none:

-how will the sale process effect FA signings?
-Will all the no-trades limit Hendry’s ability to make deals to improve the club?
-Will they leave RF open for Fukudome and hope he finds himself in 09?
-Will they FINALLY go after a REAL leadoff hitter?
-Will they pick up Harden’s option?
-Can they come to terms with Dempster?

One thing is for sure, I think Lou is going to tell Hendry we have tried things with this core group for two years now and we have found out what needs to be addressed:

Speedy (true) leadoff man
run producing LH Bat
Ugrade SS

"I don't like them fellas that drive in two runs but let in three" Casey Stengel

by MPH73 on Oct 5, 2008 10:51 AM CDT reply actions

Furcal...

Kills two birds with one stone..

"Aw, how could he (Jorge Orta) lose the ball in the sun, he's from Mexico." -- Harry Carey

by TheRiot Police on Oct 5, 2008 1:00 PM CDT up reply actions

Makes me wonder if the Red Sox

would have been willing to trade Manny for Soriano last June…..

by Neifi Puppy on Oct 5, 2008 11:38 AM CDT reply actions

Bullshit.

The Dodgers are not better than us… they simply played better over a three game stretch.

by kanderber on Oct 5, 2008 11:40 AM CDT reply actions

You go ahead...

And keep telling yourself the Cubs are better.

The better team doesn’t commit 4 errors in a game.

And even if you’re right… WHO THE FRICK CARES???

by Worf on Oct 5, 2008 11:53 AM CDT up reply actions

thats really not the point here...

…the point is how badly the Cubs have played in 2 straight playoff years, regardless of whether they had better roster (or didn’t) as their competition.

You hear Lou talk a lot about competing, and this team did not compete and there is no way to sugar coat that.

"I don't like them fellas that drive in two runs but let in three" Casey Stengel

by MPH73 on Oct 5, 2008 1:22 PM CDT up reply actions