Elegy To The 2008 Cubs
It breaks your heart. It is designed to break your heart. The game begins in the spring, when everything else begins again, and it blossoms in the summer, filling the afternoons and evenings, and then as soon as the chill rains come, it stops and leaves you to face the fall alone. You count on it, rely on it to buffer the passage of time, to keep the memory of sunshine and high skies alive, and then just when the days are all twilight, when you need it most, it stops. -- A. Bartlett Giamatti, "The Green Fields of the Mind"
Normally, I end my final game recap of a baseball season with Bart Giamatti's words, but this afternoon, as, perhaps not coincidentally, one of those fall chill rains is falling gently in Chicago, it seems more appropriate to begin with them. Let me attempt to put into words the stunning collapse of the team we just knew was going to be the one to win it all.
Usually, one of my game recaps includes a link to the boxscore of the game. Why bother? You all saw it, and you don't need me to tell you or remind you of the series' last game, which, although the score was closer, the Cubs didn't appear to be there, just as they barely showed up for games one and two. Neither did I read any of the local sports pages' articles or columns about the disaster -- and having heard that they were filled with remarks about goats and black cats and curses, I'm glad I didn't. To mention those, I think, is lame and weak and doesn't address the facts.
Which are: it is, even now, a sunrise later, hard to believe that the team we saw all summer, the one that put up the best record in the National League and the team that was, most likely, the best Cub team in three generations, looked like the Dusty Baker-led clown squad that stunk the joint out at the end of 2006. How does this happen? How does a team that looked so good for six months look so bad for three days? Even during their losing streaks of four (in June) and six (in August and September), they didn't look this bad.
Perhaps part of the answer can be found in this New York Times article, one I could read because it was more dispassionate, coming from a source outside of Chicago. Tyler Kepner, the writer, quotes Derrek Lee:
"No question, there’s a larger weight in Chicago," Lee said after the Cubs were swept from the playoffs for the second year in a row. "I hate to call it pressure, because it’s hard to put more pressure on us than we put on ourselves. But you can feel it in the city. They want it bad. It’s understandable. But it’s all about how you perform on the field."
And quotes Mark DeRosa:
"You read about it every day, the 100 years," DeRosa said. "You know about it. Every guy who signs here wants to be part of the team that gets it done. You look at what happened — if I turn a double play, it changes the complexion of Game 2. It’s one of those things; I don’t know. I’m just in shock that this is the end."
"Every guy who signs here wants to be part of the team that gets it done."
That, in one sentence, may be the biggest part of the problem. They put too much pressure on themselves; someone posted here the other day that the 2004 Red Sox, who finally broke that team's long drought (and they've now won twice and have a chance to do it again), called themselves "idiots" as if they didn't care about all the history -- and then they played like it, playing for the moment only, even as they had to win four straight elimination games to even make it to the World Series, then four more in a row to sweep it.
Maybe that's what future Cub teams have to do -- NOT care so much. Play loose, as the Dodgers did. The tightness in each Cub performance showed in pretty much every at-bat and pitch that happened after James Loney's grand slam, and to some extent even before. Don't blame the fans -- we have been here long before today's players were born, and will be here long after they are retired. "Cowboy Up", as those '04 Red Sox said, take the blame -- as Kerry Wood did in '03 -- and next year, get it done.
In the meantime, this feeling is different than 2003 or 2007. In '03, that team roared through September and its first nine postseason games, bringing us to the brink, but they were playing over their heads. Last year's elimination came so fast after a breathless chase to even get there, that we barely had time to be upset, much less angry.
This one makes me angry. This team was the one that was "different", that felt right, that set records and accomplished feats that hadn't been done in decades. And not only do they go out early, they go out with barely a whimper. Maybe what I wrote above has something to do with it, that they put too much pressure on themselves, and the weight of the 100 years does affect them on the field. Thinking about it intellectually, it shouldn't. But intellect and statistical prowess can't always stop things from gnawing into your head -- you surely know this in your own lives, and a professional athlete, highly trained though he may be, is a human being, subject to the same thoughts and feelings as the rest of us. And if you are thinking, "Hey, this was a great season with lots of great things to remember!" -- well, yes and no. Sure, there are a lot of 2008 games that will always carry wonderful memories for me, from Z's no-hitter to A-Ram's walkoff vs. the White Sox to Soto's 9th-inning tying HR to the division clincher.
But the 2008 season -- SEASON, not individual games -- was a failure.
Will I quit? Hell no; I'm a Cubs fan. That's how I grew up; if you're my age or older you have many of these shared disasters, now all of us have 2008. When last night's game ended I took off my division champions T-shirt, that I had been wearing for whatever luck or mojo it could contribute (sure, I know it can't really affect players 2000 miles away), but why not? -- and tossed it in the trash.
I'll recover it, of course. Anger will fade, as will the feelings of "it's NEVER gonna happen", to sarcastically paraphrase the sign that's been all over Wrigleyville the last couple of years. I don't really have the stomach to watch a lot of what's left of the postseason, though I may catch a game or three before it's over. In normal times I'd probably have deleted 2/3 of the posts all of you have made, but under the circumstances I'm leaving all of them; I figure you all need the catharsis (as one was titled) and to let out your emotions. It's way too early to talk about how to retool this team for '09 -- and yes, it does need changing, just as every team does, including whichever one is the last one standing this year -- but keep this in mind: what do you do to "retool" a team that blew through the regular season so easily, leading the league in virtually every important stat category? What do you add to it (or subtract from it) so that the team that does enough to get into the postseason is strong enough (physically and emotionally) to win eleven games in October?
I don't think any of us knows that answer. Hell, Jim Hendry probably doesn't know the answer, or he'd have done it and I wouldn't be writing these words today.
I have, sadly, a funeral to attend tomorrow (not for the team, though that'd be appropriate, too), and so I may be scarce for a couple of days. If any of you wishes to start a discussion thread for any of the remaining division series days, go ahead.
And keep the faith. We are Cubs fans. We hope, someday, that our turn will come, while we still inhabit the Earth.
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Very sad year..
sigh..
"Hey-Hey! Home Run! Attaboy Ronnie!" ~ Jack Brickhouse
by ronsanto10 on Oct 5, 2008 3:17 PM CDT 0 recs
Well...
I don’t think I’ll be able to watch much more of the postseason. For the past few days I have had this really bad taste in my mouth that won’t go away.
Gosh, it really seemed like this year was going to be different. It just really did.
2008 NL Central Champs!
by TyCubsfan on Oct 5, 2008 3:20 PM CDT 0 recs
Yup, the rest of the postseason
seems pretty darn insignificant.
Actually, I worry the offseason will feel that way, too.
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by AceCubbie on
Oct 6, 2008 8:12 PM CDT
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Enh
I may not care anymore.
"Don't worry, Joey. We'll go next year. They're in the World Series all the time" ---My grandfather to my sick father, October 10, 1945
by flyingdonut on Oct 5, 2008 3:20 PM CDT 0 recs
Thank you Al
This site kept me going all year. I have no Cubs fans to talk to in NY/CT. This site has helped me become a more knowledgeable, excited Cubs fan and for the first time I really felt like I was part of the Cub Fan Base.
I’m taking a few weeks off from coming on here though. I’m baseballed out.
Thanks again Al for all your hard work on here this season.
by ak123 on Oct 5, 2008 3:21 PM CDT 1 recs
+1 Yes Al thanks so much for your hard work and dedication to this site which has allowed us to cheer, fight , bitch and moan about this team we love.
Fat , drunk , and ,stupid is no way to go through life son.
by alabebo on
Oct 5, 2008 4:20 PM CDT
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+1000
It’s very selfless of you to give your time and share your experience and insight with us. No matter if we’re new to the Cubs & new to the site or are seasoned Cubs fans & site contributors, we all learn from you and certain other contributors (SWL, Emelie, etc.) on a daily basis.
See you in March.
"I'll take one in the mouth over the eyes any day". - AJ Pierzynski
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by lostinthevines on
Oct 6, 2008 11:55 AM CDT
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Embarassing...
the only consolation is that the Brewers just lost too. But I really couldn’t care less about the playoffs now.
"Dad gum right this games gonna be played under protest. . . I guarantee this is gonna be one protest that's upheld." --Hawk Harrelson, 6/24/07
by RynoHoF on Oct 5, 2008 3:22 PM CDT 0 recs
Now that I don't get.
I truly LOVE baseball and I am really looking forward to watching the rest of the post season. I guess I was the only Cub fan after the
03 disaster to watch and cheer hard for the Marlins. Dodgers/Phillies is tough for me as overall I like the Phillies but as long as certain party is on the Dodgers I will root for them ( except when the play the Cubs). I actually still like the Red Sox A LOT but will have to root for Tampa Bay for the underdog in me. Baseball is wonderful game and I will watch till the end of the season ( except in years when Cardinals play the White Sox).
"I am not ashamed to say I love Greg Maddux" - Jim Hendry
by Doggie Stalker on
Oct 5, 2008 3:29 PM CDT
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I love baseball too, as you know, Jessica.
There’s no way I could root for the Dodgers. I have no particular favorite remaining, although I’d kind of like to see the Rays make it — that’d be a nice story.
"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx
by Al on
Oct 5, 2008 3:36 PM CDT
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Do you dislike the Dodgers
generally ( which I would understand as I would if they did not have you know who) or angry at the loss ? Part of me thinks
if the Dodgers dominate the Cubs don’t look as bad but not much consolation.
"I am not ashamed to say I love Greg Maddux" - Jim Hendry
by Doggie Stalker on
Oct 5, 2008 3:42 PM CDT
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A litle bit of both.
Don’t care for Manny’s antics (though he’s a hell of a hitter) and Ethier’s an ass.
"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx
by Al on
Oct 5, 2008 3:43 PM CDT
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Manny is BAD
I used to enjoy his “antics” till he pushed the traveling secretary to the ground and used the Boras playbook to get traded.
What is the deal with Either. I recall something on BCB about his being rude to fans. FYI Penny is an ASS but he is not n the roster, Kent is a bigger ass but he is only a pinch hitter. I like Lowe, Martin and certain future HOFer a lot.
"I am not ashamed to say I love Greg Maddux" - Jim Hendry
by Doggie Stalker on
Oct 5, 2008 3:58 PM CDT
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apparently he's club house cancer, too
according to my bro’. He said Boston was glad to see him go, “don’t let the door hit you on the way out.” He’s an impressive athlete, though.
This hurts.
by Emelie on
Oct 5, 2008 4:03 PM CDT
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Scott Boras had a lot to do with the Manny/Red Sox divorce...
…there’s a Bill Simmons article that provides a lot of insight into what happened.
Formerly a Cub fan...but never again!
by NotSure on
Oct 5, 2008 4:07 PM CDT
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I think "club house cancer" ...is overrated
when it comes to winning and losing….in fact a team maay need some a$$ holes like that to “destroy” the opponent
The best defense is a good offense.....Lou Pinella...still hasn't managed the Cubs to a post season win. D. Lee still doesn't have a post seasson RBI for Cubs...ditto for Soriano
by kcjones on
Oct 5, 2008 8:50 PM CDT
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I Know the Rays
rise from laughing stock to possible champions is a great story but I cannot bring myself to root for another expansion team to win it all before our beloved Cubs. I must pull for the team that beat us; a team with as storied and long a history as ours. Go Dodgers. We’ll get ’em next year Al.
And so it goes.
by Luigi on
Oct 5, 2008 3:42 PM CDT
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I'm getting my
Center Ice Package ready. I’ll only watch baseball when I have to report a score. It’s dead to me.
I don’t dislike the Dodgers. Joe Torre almost sounded apologetic in the LA Times today. He’s a class act. Dick Williams, Jack McKeon — two guys that wanted to kill the Cubs.
by San Diego Smooth Jazz Man on
Oct 5, 2008 3:49 PM CDT
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Torre is a class act, yes.
Wish I could say the same for some of his players. Or their fans.
"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx
by Al on
Oct 5, 2008 3:50 PM CDT
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Careful, there
Remember how much we disliked it when Brennaman dissed us.
"Any old kind of a run wins it!"--Jack Brickhouse
by mattvegas on
Oct 6, 2008 5:48 PM CDT
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From a baseball fan perspective
It will still be interested in it turns into Dodgers/Red Sox World Series. I’d be very interested to see the reception Manny gets at Fenway.
by ak123 on Oct 5, 2008 3:24 PM CDT 0 recs
I can't write sentences
*I will still be interested if it turns into a Dodgers/Red Sox World Series.
by ak123 on
Oct 5, 2008 3:24 PM CDT
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I hope Fox gets Phillies/Rays.
It’d serve ’em right.
"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx
by Al on
Oct 5, 2008 3:26 PM CDT
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In all seriousness
That’d be the games I’d be prone to watching.
One day I hope to come up with something worthy of this space.
by chilango2 on
Oct 5, 2008 3:29 PM CDT
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And I need some grammar lessons
“That be the SERIES I would most likely watch.”
One day I hope to come up with something worthy of this space.
by chilango2 on
Oct 5, 2008 3:30 PM CDT
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I think thatd be a great series though
Longoria, Kazmir, Hamels, Howard, Utley, Rollins….thatd be exciting, bad for their ratings Im sure, but exciting
Okay, just so I understand it... in your wildest fantasy, you are in hell. And you are co-running a bed and breakfast with the devil.
by bren on
Oct 5, 2008 3:38 PM CDT
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True.
Good for serious baseball fans, bad for casual fans that the networks count on for ratings.
"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx
by Al on
Oct 5, 2008 3:42 PM CDT
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And, that seems the only possible outcome
With the Rays winning, giving a title to another (Florida) fan base that couldn’t find their home ball park unless they had a map.
by San Diego Smooth Jazz Man on
Oct 5, 2008 3:51 PM CDT
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And as a bonus,
numerous references to the fact that Lou Piniella used to manage the Rays and now here they are in the World Series while he watches from home. You can count on that.
"The only way of finding the limits of the possible is by going beyond them into the impossible." ~Arthur C. Clarke
by Goodie1969 on
Oct 5, 2008 3:58 PM CDT
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Probably because they won no more than 70 games in 10 years...
…they are easily selling out playoff games now…
Formerly a Cub fan...but never again!
by NotSure on
Oct 5, 2008 4:08 PM CDT
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12 hours ago...
I wouldda said Brewers / Rays…
The best defense is a good offense.....Lou Pinella...still hasn't managed the Cubs to a post season win. D. Lee still doesn't have a post seasson RBI for Cubs...ditto for Soriano
by kcjones on
Oct 5, 2008 8:51 PM CDT
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Hey, don't forget...
…the Atlanta Braves won 14 of 16 division titles and mad it to the World Series only ONCE (1995). Talk about major frustration! The Cubs have a long way to go to match that string of futility.
"Hey-Hey! Home Run! Attaboy Ronnie!" ~ Jack Brickhouse
by ronsanto10 on Oct 5, 2008 3:26 PM CDT 0 recs
That's not futility.
That’s success. The Pirates? THAT’S futility.
I would really enjoy a run like the Braves had. I know we’re all supposed to be fixated on the World Series because that’s what our Great Media Overloards keep telling up – it’s been dawning on me that it really wouldn’t make me feel any better or worse about things if the Cubs had won the Series in ‘45 or pretty much any year prior to about 1990 or so (I was born in 1981). The 100-years monkey is someone else’s problem.
So my focus – the direction I want the Cubs to go in – is in building a dynasty like that. I’d love a World Series win along the way, but the Yankees have shown us that you can’t just go out and buy one. Let’s run off another three straight playoff seasons (easier said than done as well) and see where that takes us.
by cwyers on
Oct 5, 2008 3:43 PM CDT
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That'd be a good start.
Actually, thinking about it now, 2007 and 2008 are already a good start. Two playoff appearances in a row — NEITHER Chicago team had done that in 100 years. For the Cubs to have that, presumably, is a good base to build on.
As the Dodgers just proved, get in and anything can happen.
"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx
by Al on
Oct 5, 2008 3:44 PM CDT
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Exactly
for an even more recent example, look at those Cardinals teams of the early 2000’s. Seemed like they were favored in the playoffs most years and then went expectations were the lowest, they won the World Series.
I’d rather have the Cubs making it to the playoffs and falling short than not getting there at all. Because sooner or later, it will happen.
I love to play baseball. I'm a baseball player. I've always been a baseball player. I'm still a baseball player. That's who I am. - Ryne Sandberg
by Trey2317 on
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Our foundation is there, yes, Colin.
We have enough veterans that aren’t really “old” veterans that we can breed a group of young guys (Blanco—>Soto, maybe Lee—>Micah?), yet still stay competitive for years to come. But unlike you, I’m more than thirsty for all of it.
Dan
Evey Hammond: Vi Veri Veniversum Vivus Vici. V: By the power of truth, I, while living, have conquered the universe.
by dtpollitt on
Oct 5, 2008 4:06 PM CDT
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Been thinking along the same lines....
all weekend, cwyers. As bad as this feels, hopefully this is the start of a string of successful seasons. Obviously a WS ring is the ultimate goal, but you have to start somewhere.
It would be great to go into every season with a sense that you were “the team to beat” in the Division and perhaps the league. With the feeling that you might only be a player or two away from making some real noise in the playoffs, and knowing you have the GM and owner ship to go out and get them.
I will certainly take a string of seasons like the 1990’s Braves. Just hoping we have a little more success in the WS.
by Tangled Up In Blue on
Oct 6, 2008 12:47 PM CDT
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LSA.
I totally agree. Give me winning seasons. Give me a team that’s in contention – every year. Give me regular playoff appearances. Sooner or later the pieces will fall into place.
So this is how it ends.
by dat cubfan daver on
Oct 6, 2008 3:12 PM CDT
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Agreed
The Yankees of the past decade show that as well. You just need to be in contention for a string of years. The playoffs are a crapshoot, so no group of players can ever guarantee that you’ll win, but if you can just get in there, eventually it will happen.
by epcub on
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Actuaally...they madde it tto a few series....
the only WON the world series once….I believe they won the 95 series, lost to the yankess in 96 and 99…lost to the Blue Jays in 92,
The best defense is a good offense.....Lou Pinella...still hasn't managed the Cubs to a post season win. D. Lee still doesn't have a post seasson RBI for Cubs...ditto for Soriano
by kcjones on
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I think George Costanza said it best:
“I don’t want hope. Hope is killing me. My dream is to become hopeless. When you’re hopeless you don’t care. And when you don’t care, that indifference makes you attractive.”
(BTW my wish is for a Dodgers/Red Sox WS with the Sox proving to Manny that he was mere baggage, and then taking home their third ring at his expense…)
"The only way of finding the limits of the possible is by going beyond them into the impossible." ~Arthur C. Clarke
by Goodie1969 on Oct 5, 2008 3:36 PM CDT 0 recs
If "mere baggage" gets the Dodgers to the Series
Then I hope the Cubs can pick up some of it next year.
by madcow256 on
Oct 6, 2008 9:45 AM CDT
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well...this post made me cry.
A 38 year old man crying over baseball. I just don’t know if it is worth it anymore.
"Just win tonight" - derv
by derv on Oct 5, 2008 3:40 PM CDT 0 recs
Please give your wife our best thoughts and wishes!
Never, but NEVER, put ketchup on a hot dog.
by CaliCub on
Oct 5, 2008 3:48 PM CDT
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still a Cubs fan, but ...
Great write up, Al. You explained it perfectly.
I’m 28 years old. I started watching the Cubs in the ‘89 playoffs, spent a good bit of the ’90s watching Harry and Steve on WGN. I wasn’t quite as obsessed while I was in college, but that was from ‘98-’02. Aside from the Wild Card team, there wasn’t much to watch.
For the past five years, the Cubs have been a huge part of my life. The ’07 team got me through a tough year personally. I was in Cincinnati the night they clinched.
I moved to Chicago this year. I was literally driving to town when Sheets faced Zambrano on Opening Day. I rented a place on Sheffield, two blocks from the park. The season got me through adjusting to a new city, a new job, a new life. Even on the hard days, I could watch Len and Bob.
But now …
I will always be a Cubs fan. I will always care what happens to this team. But the events of the past week have taken my fandom down several notches. I’m tired of so much of my personal happiness revolving around 25 men whom I have no control over.
I don’t believe in the curse, I believe the Cubs will one day win it all. I will cheer for them up until then and cry like a baby when they do. But my emotional well being WILL NOT hang on this team anymore. Just can’t do it.
What I’m saying is the Cubs will always be a part of my life. But after the sweep, they’re about to be a much smaller part. And, no, I won’t change my tune by the spring. And no, I don’t consider myself to be fair-weather or a quitter.
You do great work, Al. Love your site. But I doubt I’ll be visiting it as much in the future.
by elgato on Oct 5, 2008 3:44 PM CDT 0 recs
You may change your tune by spring.
… I had some of those feelings myself after last night. If you put baseball aside for a while, I suspect you’ll hear it — and the Cubs — calling your name in the spring.
"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx
by Al on
Oct 5, 2008 3:45 PM CDT
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what I'm saying
Is that the Cubs just went from being the equivalent of my girlfriend to being like my former girlfriend whom I’m still good friends with.
I love the Cubs, and I always will. But I’m not IN LOVE with the Cubs.
by elgato on
Oct 5, 2008 3:50 PM CDT
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I see what you mean.
Nevertheless, that former GF may come knocking at your door come spring and say she wants you back.
You loved her. You gonna say no?
"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx
by Al on
Oct 5, 2008 3:51 PM CDT
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yeah, probably
This hurts too much. Don’t think I can get over it to that point.
by elgato on
Oct 5, 2008 3:53 PM CDT
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Give it time.
I see you’re still here. Give it time.
"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx
by Al on
Oct 5, 2008 3:53 PM CDT
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good point
We’ll see. In any event, you’re a real service to Cubs fans, Al. Please keep it up.
by elgato on
Oct 5, 2008 3:54 PM CDT
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Thanks.
You’re a valued contributor to this site.
Plus, if you’re still living two blocks from Wrigley… I suspect you’ll feel the pull next spring.
"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx
by Al on
Oct 5, 2008 3:56 PM CDT
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The Cubs, to me, are much more than a girlfriend.
It’s in my blood, from the day I was born, and no matter what I do, I cannot and will not escape it.
Chad (SWL) told me the other day, “The sun will still rise tomorrow.” He’s right, but I’ll feel empty, drag on, and won’t enjoy the sunrise until the Cubs are back, better than ever. Until then, I can only look back on what we accomplished, what we failed to do, and how we can improve on the future.
Dan
Evey Hammond: Vi Veri Veniversum Vivus Vici. V: By the power of truth, I, while living, have conquered the universe.
by dtpollitt on
Oct 5, 2008 4:12 PM CDT
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Yup
Give me some time off to grieve and get my fall and holiday work done; I’ll come back ’round about Convention time.
by NWIowaCubFan on
Oct 5, 2008 5:27 PM CDT
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I am quite jaded as well but I'm guessing
later I will feel pretty much like this:

"The only way of finding the limits of the possible is by going beyond them into the impossible." ~Arthur C. Clarke
by Goodie1969 on
Oct 5, 2008 4:24 PM CDT
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Yeah, you got that right.
"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx
by Al on
Oct 5, 2008 4:26 PM CDT
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that's just the thing
I’m ready to live for other things MORE.
by elgato on
Oct 5, 2008 4:52 PM CDT
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Al Yellon Gets My MVP Vote
This site is so genuinely human, so chock full of the joys and sorrows only a Cubs/baseball fan can understand, that it’s the best in the land. At no time has it ever become bogged down in statistical smugness or driven by a bitter, contrarian agenda. Not once has it dumbed things down for the sake of the LCD. And much of that has to do with our own Peerless Leader.
A lesser site would have gone off on a self-satisfied “told ya so” manifesto or posted an image of Jim Hendry being hung in effigy. Worse yet, a lesser site would have deleted all the bile in favor of an insincere “we luv ya Cubbies, get ’em next year” that would have been a slap in the face to its participants. Instead, BCB and Al has acknowledged and embraced the agony all of us feel right now. It’s as necessary to do as reveling in the good feelings and proud proclamations of a mere ten days ago.
I’ll say it again – if you want the best in Cubs info and a place to hang with fans as passionate and as steeped in team history as yourself, go nowhere else other than this li’l ol’ corner of the Interwebs.
Never, but NEVER, put ketchup on a hot dog.
by CaliCub on Oct 5, 2008 3:47 PM CDT 17 recs
Thanks for the kind words.
Much appreciated.
"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx
by Al on
Oct 5, 2008 3:50 PM CDT
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truer words never been spoken
great post CaliCub
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by Gibbon Jockey on
Oct 5, 2008 4:15 PM CDT
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Amen!
I visit several Cubs sites, but this is my favorite. You do great work, Al!
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Oct 5, 2008 4:25 PM CDT
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Thanks again to all of you!
Gotta get off the computer for a while. Enough for now.
"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx
by Al on
Oct 5, 2008 4:26 PM CDT
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