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Time to throw away 'IGH' banners & burn 'W' flags

As someone guilty of displaying the 'W' flag after most home wins, outside my home - I am to blame.  This weekend, I plan to burn my 'W' flag.

For all of you who have the It's Gonna Happen banners and signs - throw them away, please - and don't display them at any more games.

We as fans, cannot continue to promote these things. 

We - IMO - are the best fans in baseball.  We need to act like it.  Let's not embrace the 101 years since a World Series title.  It is not something to be proud of. 

I'm sure this post will offend some, but it is not meant to.  It is just my opinion.  I hope others share it, but understand if they don't.

This is a FanPost and does not necessarily reflect the views of SB Nation or Al Yellon, editor-in-chief (unless it's a FanPost posted by Al). FanPost opinions are valued expressions of opinion by passionate and knowledgeable baseball fans.

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I see your point

But burning stuff doesn’t really seem like much of an answer. especially the W flag, which has alot more to do with a Wrigley tradition, than with the 100 years crap.

by StevenABQ on Oct 6, 2008 12:14 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I say let's keep the W flags

but I agree let’s get ride of the “It’s gonna Happen” signs.

"Destiny is a matter of choice, not chance"

by MerlinDog on Oct 6, 2008 12:18 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Agreed 100%

Always loathed that “it’s gonna happen” sign.

Over time, your quickness with a cocky rejoinder must have gotten you many punches in the face - Al Swearengen

by lemon20pie on Oct 7, 2008 2:17 AM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I took down the two IGH signs in my window, along with the hunt for blue October stuck them in my closet.

Someday we'll go all the way.

by Cubbinstrongsince86 on Oct 6, 2008 12:23 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Always hated the IGH signs....

never allow them to return!

Just because I don't care doesn't mean I don't understand. - Homer J Simpson

by MikeOxbyg on Oct 6, 2008 12:32 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I don't see what a W flag has to do with the 100-year thing.

It just means the team won. And I hope you fly your flag responsibly – that is, take it down after a Cubs loss. I have neighbors who fly theirs 24-7 throughout the season and it drives me nuts. Oh, wait, you’re burning your flag, so I guess it doesn’t matter how you flew it.

I don’t have a problem with people tossing the IGH signs. I never cared for those much anyway.

So this is how it ends.

by dat cubfan daver on Oct 6, 2008 12:33 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

+1

Especially on responsibly displaying the W flag.

by StevenABQ on Oct 6, 2008 12:39 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I like it!

How about
The real DREAM team
?

"I wouldn't be a part of any club that would have me as a member" : Groucho Marx

by Dave Pendleton on Oct 6, 2008 1:30 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I happen to like the W Flags…except when people display them all the time. They should only go out after a win and then be taken down before the next game.

“It’s gonna happen” on the other hand is ridiculous. What’s gonna happen?! Looks like the same old thing as always! Skip the signs. They just block other people’s view of the game anyway.

While we are at it…how about not singing “Go Cubs Go” after a win. We celebrate a normal season win like it’s some big deal. We should save it for something special. Or at the very least we should pick another song because singing “the Cubs are gonna win today” after they just won is really pretty silly.

by katie casey on Oct 6, 2008 12:54 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I agree with your comments.

Just out of curiousity, though, are you, like, related to KOW somehow?

So this is how it ends.

by dat cubfan daver on Oct 6, 2008 1:09 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

No

Not familiar with KOW. I’m somewhat knew here. I’ve been reading for awhile, but never posted before.

by katie casey on Oct 6, 2008 1:23 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Of course you did.

You could have just called and asked.

But the wind blew me back via Chicago, In the middle of the night

by N Oakley on Oct 6, 2008 1:49 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Didn't want to

Didn’t want to waste the minutes.

So this is how it ends.

by dat cubfan daver on Oct 6, 2008 2:18 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I dont know if you were being sarcastic or what.. but why get rid of Go Cubs Go after we win a home game, should we not be excited our team just won? I happen to look forward to singing Go Cubs Go at Wrigley Field.

"You must try to generate happiness within yourself. If you aren't happy in one place, chances are you won't be happy anyplace."

by All The Way on Oct 6, 2008 3:30 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

+1

I say keep the song.

"Destiny is a matter of choice, not chance"

by MerlinDog on Oct 6, 2008 3:45 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

yep.

You can’t get rid of the song. I took a non-Cub fan to Wrigley a couple of years ago and he had never even heard the song before. He thought it was an awesome environment and the song is a huge part of it.

"I'm petrified of nipple chafing. Once it starts, it's a vicious circle." Andy Bernard

by TXCub on Oct 6, 2008 3:48 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

The W flag is a tradition,

and a cool one at that. It was neat to see the flags at Cubs games, home or away. It’s part of the “Wrigley Field North” or East, West, South concept that we have when the Cubs are on the road. We have to remember to control our emotions and actions in these troubling times.

by stadiumguru on Oct 6, 2008 1:41 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

The W flag...

…has a long tradition and I have no problem with it. Regarding all the other “stuff” that comes out of the blue when they are having a good year, really makes me sick to my stomach.

Just watch the freaking game and forget about all this “side show” shit and act like the focus is what is happening on the field.

"I don't like them fellas that drive in two runs but let in three" Casey Stengel

by MPH73 on Oct 6, 2008 1:56 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I can't believe people were still wearing...

…those ridiculous Fukudome headbands at the end of the season.

So this is how it ends.

by dat cubfan daver on Oct 6, 2008 2:19 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

You know...

…it just shows that there are a lot of people who are really clueless about this game, who latch onto this team when it is “cool” to do so. These attention seekers are one part of being a Cub’s fan I don’t like.

"I don't like them fellas that drive in two runs but let in three" Casey Stengel

by MPH73 on Oct 6, 2008 2:21 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Yeah

But I imagine all that stuff will be shelved or trashed now, time for them to join the Dodger Blue ranks or even better Red Sox nation — Pink caps anyone?

by StevenABQ on Oct 6, 2008 2:23 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Hey, I hear the Cardinals are a good team!

Don’t forget about them!

So this is how it ends.

by dat cubfan daver on Oct 6, 2008 3:02 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Heh

How could I? I just experienced one of the strangest trolling episodes ever. I swear the voice in someones head took a human form and started posting. It was a little twilight zone.

by StevenABQ on Oct 6, 2008 5:10 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

A-freakin-men.

I really do believe that most so-called Cub fans are not real fans.

by sackings108 on Oct 6, 2008 2:32 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I don't care if the headband cost $48 million.

Doesn’t mean you have to wear it every game even when it fails to keep the sweat out of your eyes.

make*art

by neverAcquiesce on Oct 7, 2008 9:59 AM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Keep the "W"

It’s a tradition and should be treated as such. The IGH signs were an abomination and were utterly sickening. Gives us Cubs fans who take things one game at a time and don’t say “We’re gonna win the World Series!” in May a bad name.

Boy am I glad I didn’t invest in one of those…

by AeroZach on Oct 6, 2008 2:14 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Mine was free :)

but it looks good up in the closet now..

"You must try to generate happiness within yourself. If you aren't happy in one place, chances are you won't be happy anyplace."

by All The Way on Oct 6, 2008 3:31 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

W flags

stay. All other crap goes.

by CubFaninStLouis on Oct 6, 2008 2:19 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Keep the "W"

As stated it is tradition. With that said, I did something today that I had no idea what kind of resonse I would get. I live in JAX, FLA so baseball is not very important down here. Of cours I heard all the crap on Thursday about Da Cubs choking (there term not mine, although . . ) I put up with it as I’ve put up with it all of my Cub life. Didn’t go to work on Fri so I was OK. After Sat I was as pissed as all other Cub Fans, but I dealt with it (again). Monday I wore my Cub gear, thought I’d show that I am a fan. but you know what, the one person who ripped me about Da Cubs choking sorta gagged when he came into the office. He just stared at me and I did not hear another word from him the whole day. Everyone I ran into just stared. Not sure what the hell was going on, but I did not have to hear all the crap.

Had to share this with other Cub Fans, ain’t none down here!

They were "Cubbed". Any team that gets beat late by the Cubs.

by flacub08 on Oct 6, 2008 3:15 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

That's awesome...

….I love it when office jackasses choke on their own saliva.

"I'm petrified of nipple chafing. Once it starts, it's a vicious circle." Andy Bernard

by TXCub on Oct 6, 2008 3:50 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I don't have a 'W' flag, but

I have one of the flags they fly on roof of Wrigley – a white flag with the 80’s Cubbie bear logo. Got it at the ‘end of the year’ sale the Cubs have. It was up for every day during the year, but it comes down today. It stayed up yesterday just so the neighbors knew I was still proud of the season (in total).

Come mid-February, it’ll go back up.

Keep your flags, folks.

I love to play baseball. I'm a baseball player. I've always been a baseball player. I'm still a baseball player. That's who I am. - Ryne Sandberg

by Trey2317 on Oct 6, 2008 3:49 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

My ‘W’ flag stays up in my room at all times, I dont take it down and put it on our flag pole because ti is too big, we are tring to find one that would fit for the house. I just keep my W flag because it reminds me of the Cubs, and Wrigley (I always sit and wait to watch them put it up after the game).. But I wonder if the fact I keep my W flag on my wall at all times would constitute as misuse of the “W”?

"You must try to generate happiness within yourself. If you aren't happy in one place, chances are you won't be happy anyplace."

by All The Way on Oct 6, 2008 3:55 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Hm, interesting question.

I guess my gut reaction is that, no, having a W flag on your wall at all times doesn’t constitute misuse. The misuse occurs only when the flag is actually being used as a flag. Perhaps that’s ridiculous, but it’s par for the course when it comes to these baseball superstitions of mine.

So this is how it ends.

by dat cubfan daver on Oct 6, 2008 4:08 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

As was pointed out, given Cub history, the "It's Gonna Happen"

is more a statement of sad resignation. How bad’s it gonna be this time?

by the nth on Oct 6, 2008 4:10 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

sadly my Sox fan friends saw the sign n were like “what is going to happen, them choking in the playoffs” they ended up being right, that helped me make up my mind to take it down yesterday.

"You must try to generate happiness within yourself. If you aren't happy in one place, chances are you won't be happy anyplace."

by All The Way on Oct 6, 2008 4:24 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

My .02

Burn all “It’s Gonna Happen” materials. Here’s a reminder for you all – the guy that sells all that crap is the guy who ran on the field on Sept. 28, 1995 and charged Cubs reliever Randy Myers. Myers saw the man coming, dropped his glove and knocked him down with his forearm. Everytime we see he outside Wrigley, or at Bernie’s hawking his stuff, we interrupt and try to convince the purchaser not to buy it. So if you own, burn it now.

For the “W” flag. Let’s do the tradition right. If you have the flag at the game, don’t display it until the cubs actually WIN. Too many times have I see idiot fans rolling out the flags in the 2nd inning. The “W” means we won that day, respect it. If you have it hanging in your room/house, I don’t expect you to take it down between games and only hang it when they win – unless you so choose.

by gp1966 on Oct 6, 2008 5:09 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I do hate the IGH signs.

But getting so pissed at a Cub closer for blowing still another save during a wild card chase that you just can’t stand it anymore and charge the mound? I have empathy for the feelings if not the actions.

by the nth on Oct 6, 2008 6:05 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I've felt the same way,

…but you don’t have to act on every feeling. There is never an excuse for running onto the mound to attack a cubs pitcher.

by gp1966 on Oct 6, 2008 6:37 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Echoing the sentiment of most in this thread....

Keep the W!! get rid of the lame IGH, they get worse to display each year without it happening.

by Canseco's Roid Party on Oct 6, 2008 5:13 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I had a W/IGH sign

displayed in my window all summer long, rotating it when the Cubs lost. My condo faces a busy street (159th St.). I have taken it and all my other cubs paraphernalia down (the gnome, dairy queen helmet, Cubs pennant on my front door and countless others). I’m thinking about picking up some poster board on my way home and making a giant " It didn’t happen" sign for that window. I got to have some fun with it ya know.

by TheRamZamDLEE on Oct 6, 2008 6:03 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

IGH

Do you guys know the whole thing was started by the guy who attacked Randy Myers in 1995 right>

Thngs of worth are worth fighting for regardless of the odds.

by cubstoseriesby100 on Oct 6, 2008 8:20 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I think this is a personal decision. Even when our team's win, which has happened

(Bears & Bulls), we eventually get tired of the promotional stuff.

I found a Superbowl Shuffle VHS tape a couple years ago and my first thought after watching it again was “Were we all insane?”

The Cubs are going to play in 2009 and hopefully field a better team that is peaking come October and not limping.

by DudeVf11 on Oct 6, 2008 8:23 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I have read all the posts here.

Agreed on the general consensus: fly the W flag — but ONLY after wins, and ONLY after the game is actually won!

The IGH signs — ugh. Time to dump them forever.

"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al on Oct 6, 2008 9:58 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Also: the "This Is the Year" stuff

Ditto to many commenters: keep the ‘W’ flag. (But if you just can’t stomach holding on to it- I’ll keep it safe for you.) It’s a long-standing tradition, a unique symbol for the team, and I believe it represents the optimism and determination of all Cubs fans. This is why I would be a little more lax in my ‘W’ flag etiquette, and would allow for its appearance beyond strictly after wins- it recognizes past success and confidence in the future even in tough times.

But yeah, the ‘IGH’ crap is awful and needs to go, permanently. Especially considering the source, it represents the worst kind of cashing-in and bandwagoning of the Cubs. Same goes for those proclaiming mid-season that ‘This Is The Year’ (TITY?) After 2007 and especially 2008, we should know that there is no such thing as being ‘due’ for a championship, no lucky rabiit’s foot for getting there, and that getting ahead of ourselves just makes us all look foolish. Just be a fan, cheer hard, and don’t lean on curses or magic.

by SandbergEra on Oct 7, 2008 12:35 AM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I think...

we need to bury all this IGH and This is the Year and anything else that dwells on not winning a WS. It took a couple days but i’m starting to come around on this year. Sure it really sucked at the end, but we just witnessed two straight winning seasons and 3 of 4 seasons. Also, back to back Division champs.

   All i’m saying is instead of dwelling on not winning a WS let’s remember that we are still witnessing a period of very good Cubs baseball. There have been many Cubs fans who went cradle to grave and not seen what we have. I’m just trying to get it in perspective in my head and maybe if the players could do that the pressure might not be as great? I hope I made some sense…

Just because I don't care doesn't mean I don't understand. - Homer J Simpson

by MikeOxbyg on Oct 7, 2008 9:33 AM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

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