They put something different on the AC sign using the same amount (or less) numbers/letters?

Example (Not meaning this is what I would want but just to get the point out):

Now: AC006299
Instead: GOCUBSGO

Something like that. Yes, reminding everyone how long it has been isnt good, as much as we would like to see AC000000. In fact if we do win someday soon they could always put that up the next year just to say it was done! But no AC000001+

Curious.

Teams like the Indians for example.

counting down the years till the Cubs win, rather than the other way around.

I might feel differently if I had been alive for more of these years.

I don’t see it as very different from hanging a championship banner commemorating a pennant or world series—if Wrigley had banners with 08 and 45 on it, wouldn’t that be the same thing to anyone who could count?

would mess the sign up. Without adding numbers, the sign could read AC063100. The single zero after the “C” would be for years after division title. If the Cubs go 10 years without a division title, another space will be needed.

The sign doesn’t bother me. Poor play in the postseason does.

In regard to Worf, Al already pointed out that the L flag only says that they lost that day. The AC sign says, or will say, we haven’t been able to get the job done in 100 years. What’s the point in that? If my fiancee pointed out to me how many interviews I’ve gone on without landing a new job, I’d end up getting pretty discouraged, and I’d end up in a fight with her. If the Cubs are something that Lakeview loves, then take the sign down. All it’s saying is, “Hey guys, congratulations on another year of failure. Oh yeah, also grats on winning the division…” It’s cruel, and if we’re looking at this like a relationship, then the side Lakeview is on certainly isn’t helping matters.

I will also say that after all the games I went to where they lost, in recent years anyway, leaving the bleachers and seeing that sign was a pretty aggravating sight. It’s not really helping anything.

This entire organization is weighed down with the expectations of fans and a lazy media who will continue to remind fans of the goat, the curse, the 100 years etc.

Whomsoever said that in order to win a championship a very unique, and probably very young, team will need to go out and play hard without care for the sign on Sheffield or anything else, for that matter.

It’s not the sign. It’s not any other reminders of the futility of this club in the last century. It’s simply down to a group of very well-paid men who are paid to ignore history, ignore the pressure and play well every day.

It’s still has its’ own karmic problem. But, why not hang some banners that say Division Champs, 1984, 1989, 2003, 2007, 2008. At least this is a postive. This is a common practice at just about every ball park. Even the Rockies have hung a sign “Wild Card Champs.”

The AC sign is on somebody’s house. We can rail about it, but it’s out of our hands. At least we can suggest the Cubs change some of their policies.

Dump the G-d-forsaken, stupid, moronic AC sign!

I despise it! I will ALWAYS despise it!

that show the successes of the team instead of just the small ones on the roof with the year on them? The 1908 flag looks the same as ones that are up there for the division champ and wild card champ teams.

Use the banners for the Bulls at the UC for example. The division banners and NBA champ banners are quite different. The Champ banners have what happened and in what year on them. They arent just a little square that says 1991, 1992, 1993, 1996, 1997, and 1998. Not that this would help the Cubs win any more but would be nice looking to show what has (even if little) been accomplished. Now where they would hang I have no idea lol

I don’t think it celebrates failure but hope but beyond that I don’t want to blame the outside crap. If it won’t win or effect a single game don’t fixate on it. What matters is ON the field not the rooftops.

This year the blessing, last year the sicko who hung the skinned goat from the Harry statue. Everyone has to stop this BS and focus on the play on the field.

Make a huge deal out of the division championships. I’m talking a huge sign, honor our success.

When was the sign in question put up?

Just think of how glorious it will actually feel when we see all 0’s on the AC sign.

I’ve never really thought about the L flag or the AC sign as grand symbols of failure. They’re just quirky little things. Take them down. Leave them up. Whatever.

I do miss the Torco sign though.

Wrigley Field is an old ballpark with many different items showing that. Some are necessary and some are left as tradition. The W & L flags (in case anyone does not know) were originally hung so that commuters on the train could see if the Cubs won or lost that day. We are obviously in a more modern time with much more information at our finger tips. I think it is a pretty cool tradition that should not change. I do not think it is a reminder of the Cubs horrible futility.

i want a baseball park, not a tourist attraction. Haven’t won anything in the stadium, nothing but bad things have happened there. Make a modern park, there is no tradition. Only failure has occured in the park. ever since 2003 tickets have become outrageous. I know it will never happen, and I know I am probably one of the only people who want this

Pressure – We all deal with in our day to day lives. Readers of this board come from every walk of life and are probably in every earnings level, that to me is what is great about being a cub fan you never who your going to meet but we have one huge thing in common

To me that sign reresent a long struggle, but when you see 40,000 plus at ever game it also points to loyality and brotherhood.

AC000000 the real magic number

Look at all the BTU’s burned on this topic. Why? Because someone doesn’t have a warm-fuzzy because of it? Because someone is offended because of it? This is the same BS politically correct crock of s—- I heard about the dreaded “L” flag.

Too f—-ing bad. It has absolutely nothing to do with the Cubs play on the field.

If people really want to end the bad atmosphere associated with the Cubs, move the hell out of WRIGLEYVILLE. Build a quirky ballpark with lots of fan amenities, skyboxes galore, high end audio system and neon/video stuff everywhere. Then everyone can have the Chase Field / US Commiscular / Miller Park sensory overload type of feel between every pitch, no views of the lake, no neighborhood feel and best of yet no politically incorrect Anno Catuli signs or “L” flags.

And on top of it all we’re all guilty (those of the 3.3M+ that went through the turnstyles) of feeding that monster. And guess what, I’m going to be guilty again when I drop over $20k on season tickets for 2009.

The bottom line is a good ball club wins titles, not the absense of “L” flags, the “AC” sign or some dumb-ass publicity stunt blessing the dugout before playoffs.

But the ‘AC’ sign does seem to celebrate mediocrity. Yes, it’s nice when the division numbers are at 00, but let’s be honest – whether or not the Cubs win, we’ll all know the years associated with the sign, so there’s not much point to it except for getting newcomers to Wrigley to look at the Lakeview Baseball Club’s properties (which seems self-serving).

I don’t recall any other teams keeping a running tab of their failures (unless you count different-colored pennants that the Red Sox have), which the ‘AC’ sign seems to be.

How very Ronald Reagan of you.

but if you take it down, you still have indicators WITHIN the walls that remind you of post season futility. No WS Flags. Most other ballparks, albeit newer ones, display their Pennants and WS Championships. The press reminds everyone on a daily basis of our futility, a sign surely couldn’t matter. And I don’t mean for the Cubs to go out and run up a 1945 NL Pennant flag, either.

I agree that sending the priest with the holy water in the dugout was in poor judgment.

…if they tore down the AC sign. I’d take an RPG to it myself if given the OK by city officials. (Can tuckpointing fix that?)

Changing the subject just a bit, do you know what else I think the Cubs should stop doing? HOLDING THOSE PRE-PLAYOFF FAN RALLYS. For two years in a row now I’ve gone to the damn thing and for two years in a row I’ve found myself slumped over in a pool of my own shame and disappointment just a few days later.

Looking back now, GRod’s long-winded speech and Jim Belushi’s shameless self-promotion don’t seem so funny anymore. And DLee’s 10-second “motIvational speech” seems an appropriate duration given how long the Cubs lasted in the postseason. I think I’m going to burn my free “W” towel.

To sum up: BLOW UP THE SIGN AND SCREW THE RALLY!

the so-called “Bartman” seat (113) too. You know, the one where all the tourists flock before the game and which celebrates a certain mythology about a crushing Cubs defeat?

Let’s get rid of everything that reminds us of the painful past!

To some baseball distraction for awhile. I guess I never felt it before, but winter does kind of provide a refresher for the spring.

This sort of reminds of when people want to get rid of a grading system in school. Heaven forbid some poor kid might develop low self esteem because their grades are lousy. So what if the kid is lazy or didn’t try or just isn’t as capable a student. Poor baby might feel bad. Why be held accountable for your actions? But when the bad student gets an A++++ wouldn’t it be time to celebrate. I’d like to see the AC000000.

To be honest I can’t see how taking it down would really matter. Do the players or management even know what it is? Or care? And if they do, couldn’t it have a reverse effect? Wouldn’t it be like a wake up call that they should try harder? Like how when you see a high number on the scale and decide it’s time to go on a diet. Adding that extra digit to the sign might be that wake up call.

As for the W and L flags…if you get rid of the L, then you should get rid of the W. And that is a tradition I would truly miss.

He didnt even realize the flags on top of the scoreboard were the standings til last year! lol

don’t make some dumbass ceremony out of it. Toss it quietly, in the dark of night.

-OR-

turn it into a sign that lists the number of all time Cubs victories.

in knowing whether those for or against the sign attend Wrigley regularly. I suppose the sign doesn’t bother me, in part, because the only time I see it is on tv—maybe I’d feel differently if I saw it every game.

06 07 08 10 18 29 32 35
38 45 84 89 98 03 07 08

Thats more positive

How degrading of a fan you can be to say “Hey we’ve sucked the last 100 years” and post it. I like many Cubs fans maybe one (or two My brother) living in San Antonio we were pissed at our