Yanks offer CC $140m!
by SonnyJ9 on Nov 14, 2008 7:12 PM CST
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Guess we won't have to worry about CC in the NL Central next year. I don't think he will walk away from 40 million seeing how the Brewers reportedly offered him $100 million.
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In about three years...
… they’ll regret that offer, if he takes it.
"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx
Also...
… haven’t the Yankees yet learned the lesson that you can’t buy a World Series title?
"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx
The 1997 Marlins...
2004 Red Sox, 2007 Red Sox and countless Yankee and Cardinal teams throughout history would like to point out that you CAN buy a title.
If the Cubs spent $1 billion in a single year on salaries and won the championship, I wouldn’t blink twice or feel a scintilla of shame.
The worst beer I had was pretty good.
Really?
Why didn’t Henrdy do it?
I love the Cubs, but for the sake of I’m drunk, point it out!
Yay 2009 Central Division Champs!
But all that money hasn't won anything for the Cubs the last two years.
You cannot guarantee winning by spending.
"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx
No, but...
With RARE exceptions, you can get in the hunt.
A team that spends and is smart will always beat a team that doesn’t spend and is smart.
The Yankees will win another World Series before any team with a sub-$50 million payroll does.
Spend, spend, and more spend.
The worst beer I had was pretty good.
You guarantee that?
Since 2000, of the eight WS winners since the last Yankee title, six of them (all but the two Red Sox titles) have been won by teams in the middle range (or lower) of team payrolls.
I agree with you that you have to be two things: rich AND smart. Just spending money doesn’t do a damn thing except … well, spend money. Just ask last year’s Tigers about that.
"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx
Here you go
2008 Phillies – 98m 13th in MLB
2006 Cards – 89m 11th in MLB
2005 White Sox – 121m. 5th in MLB
2003 Marlins – 63m 20th in MLB
2002 Angels – 61m
2001 DBacks – 85m
The Yankees will win again before any team that doesn’t spend at least $60 million wins a World Series. The Marlins and Angels were eight years ago and salaries have jumped since then.
The worst beer I had was pretty good.
So apart from the White Sox and Red Sox...
…. there are three other champions there in the middle or lower range of team payrolls. If the Rays had won this year there would have been one more in the bottom rank.
The Yankees are, as you said, guaranteed to contend by spending. They are NOT guaranteed winning a championship.
"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx
No...
My premise was that the Yankees will win before any team that spends less than $60 million wins.
The Yankees imploded this year — if you can call 4th best record in the AL imploding, I guess — but they will be back very quickly.
The worst beer I had was pretty good.
I agree that the Yankees will continue to contend.
However, you cannot predict with any degree of certainty that they will win before a low-payroll team will. The postseason is that much of a crapshoot.
"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx
What on earth are you talking about...
Since George Steinbrenner bought the Yankees they have won 6 World Series titles to give the franchise 26 overall in its illustrous history. Steinbrenner bought his World Series wins in 1977 and 1978. He did the same in 1999 and 2000 when he added Roger Clemens and had one of the most astronimical payrolls that could ever have been imagined.
The Yankees spend money in ALL phases of the game. Their farm system over the years has been excellent. They use the fruits of that system to plug (Jeter, Posada, Cano, Rivera) and to trade. Augmented of course by free spending attitude in free agency.
McGrath: I got a good deal on those boys. The scouts said they showed a lot of promise.
Reggie Dunlop: They brought their f***in' TOYS with 'em!
McGrath: Well, I'd rather have em playin with their toys than playin with themselves.
Reggie Dunlop: They're too dumb to play with themselves. Boy, every piece of garbage that comes into the market and you gotta buy it!
The Yankees in the 20s and 50s
Had among the highest payrolls of the day too.
It’s a myth, the fact that you can’t buy a championship. Teams have done it throughout history.
The worst beer I had was pretty good.
High Risk, High Reward
For every 1997 Marlins and 1977 Yankees, there’s a 1992 Mets and 2008 Tigers.
Also consider Tom Yawkey’s Red Sox teams of the late 1930s. Jimmie Foxx and Lefty Grove were purchased from the A’s, and Wes Ferrell from the Indians. Sadly these moves didn’t translate into a pennant.
Ideally you would like to follow the model of the current Red Sox. A farm system that has produced Pedroia, Lowrie, Youkilis, Ellsbury, and Lester, and a heady payroll that can net guys like Drew and Matsuzaka.
"The object of a ball game for the fan is not to be entertained. It is to win." - Max Lapides
Many teams haven't learned that lesson
And unfortunately Cubs are one of them :(
Yeah, but look at attendance totals
They aren’t the Cubs!
Woot!
(linky) with the season totals
How do the Red Stox avg 104 Pct. per season!??
Yanks offer CC $140m!
Manny Ramirez accepts!
The author of this post is not a certified scout, doctor, agent, statistician, manager, or journalist, nor was he ever a very good player, though he tried very hard to be like Ryne Sandberg and was about as scrappy as it gets (in T-ball). Any opinion expressed above should in no way be confused with fact, truth, or reality and is hereby qualified in the following ways: 1) The author does not know as much about baseball as Lou Piniella. 2) The author does not know as much about baseball as Jim Hendry. 3) The author does not know as much about baseball as either Dusty or Darren Baker.
ha, its a Scott Boras dream come true
Okay, just so I understand it... in your wildest fantasy, you are in hell. And you are co-running a bed and breakfast with the devil.
this the yankees desperate.
god steinbrenner must be dying over there seeing how they haven’t won a ws in gosh 8 years. how tragic. if cc goes back to the al, he won’t be as dominate as he was here bc they know him over there unlike when the brewers rented him and owned the nl.
Someday we'll go all the way.
by Cubbinstrongsince86 on Nov 14, 2008 7:35 PM CST reply actions
Love to see CC follow his heart, turn the offer down and take less money out West...(California is home)
….that would be a nice signal to the Yanks that money cant buy everything
"When I got to Chicago, fans came to Wrigley Field just to have fun, now they come to see us win. The expectations have changed, for the players and for the fans. It’s about winning." Kerry Wood, 7/14/08
Agreed.
CC has said many times that he likes the NL game — likes to hit. If the Giants would open their pocketbooks, he’d probably go there in a heartbeat.
"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx
Money talks
140m and six years as an opening offer is damn hard to turn down.
I realize, lots of fans would turn it down for the players. It’s pretty easy to tell someone else they have too much money.
There’s enough interleague play to satisfy his hitting jones.
The worst beer I had was pretty good.
True, perhaps.
But maybe he’ll get other similar offers.
"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx
Well there was a certain party
Who turned down the Yankees then record offer for a pitcher in 1992 and took roughly 17%(one million per year on a six million per year contract) less to play for the team he wanted. By my rough math that would mean CC could accept an offer of 115 million from the Dodgers or Angels and be happy.
"I am not ashamed to say I love Greg Maddux" - Jim Hendry
by Doggie Stalker on Nov 15, 2008 9:31 PM CST up reply actions
Exactly.
The Dodgers, most likely.
"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx
Except that Frank McCourt doesn't have the money to pay all these guys
He can sign one of Lowe, Furcal, Manny and Sabathia. The guy is in financial trouble by things I have read. The Dodger payroll has been more generous than was prudent given McCourt’s financial picture.
BCB, home of the insidious campaign of the clueless to "Dustyfy" an outstanding manager in Lou Piniella.
The Giants did open their pocketbook
And they got stuck with Zito. I don’t see the Giants as real players for CC.
Steinbrenners might sign Sabathia AND Lowe and Burnett
Don’t laugh. Yankees might go out and spend well over $200 million to add these three starters to Chin Meng Wang and Joba Chamberlain. Then turn around and trade Phillip Hughes for a prized bullpen part.
McGrath: I got a good deal on those boys. The scouts said they showed a lot of promise.
Reggie Dunlop: They brought their f***in' TOYS with 'em!
McGrath: Well, I'd rather have em playin with their toys than playin with themselves.
Reggie Dunlop: They're too dumb to play with themselves. Boy, every piece of garbage that comes into the market and you gotta buy it!
Sure as hell a way to welcome in a new stadium, that's for sure.
Totally sounds like the Yankees to me. Two injury-prone guys and a guy that’s 100 lbs. over prone. DO IT!
Dan
Evey Hammond: Vi Veri Veniversum Vivus Vici. V: By the power of truth, I, while living, have conquered the universe.
Well you can take those risks...
When you have a new stadium and your own TV network, Im sure thats barely a drop in the bucket compared to their yearly revenues
Okay, just so I understand it... in your wildest fantasy, you are in hell. And you are co-running a bed and breakfast with the devil.
And you know what!?
They will still finish THIRD in the f—-ing division!
Because God hates an over spender!
Hi, znothitter,
welcome to the club. Take some motrin and drink lots of water.
Tommie Agee was out.
"This field, this game, is a part of our past. It reminds us of all that was once good, and it could be good again." TM
Thanks.
Sorry ‘bout the stupid. I’m not going to that bar ever again (until next time).
On the plus side, three out of four alcoholic schizophrenics think BCB is more fun than drunk texting!
(No, we don’t.) (Yes, we do!)
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