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The Cub Can Of Worms: Danny Young

Some of you are saying: Who?

Danny Young, a 6-4, 210-pound lefthander who looked good in a uniform, made the Opening Day roster for the Cubs in 2000 for two reasons: first, he had made seven appearances totalling eight innings in spring training, striking out seven and allowing only two runs, and second, the Cubs and Mets were both allowed several extra roster players for their two-game opening series in Tokyo.

via www.jamd.com (Donald Miralle/Allsport)

Young, one of the lowest-round draft picks to ever play in the majors, was originally picked in the 83rd round (can you imagine GM's today sitting around to pick 83 times?) by the Astros in 1990, but they didn't even bother to sign him until nearly a year later, May 10, 1991. He bounced around their system and the Pirates' for six years until the Cubs picked him in the minor league draft on December 15, 1997. He didn't throw that well in the Cub organization either, but his decent numbers in 1999 at Double-A (67 K in 60 innings and a 3.30 ERA) got him a spring-training invite in 2000.

And so, after the sort-of good spring he had in 2000, off it was to Japan for Danny, an extra lefty in the pen.

The second game there went into extra innings; six Cub pitchers, including starter Kyle Farnsworth (he would start only four more games after that one before being moved permanently to the bullpen), had held the Mets to three hits and a run over the first ten innings, while the Cubs couldn't muster any more than a single run, either.

Our man Danny took care of that: after retiring the first two hitters in the 11th inning, he gave up a single to Todd Zeile, walked the bases loaded, and then Benny Agbayani hit a grand slam.

When the Cubs returned Stateside, Danny made three more appearances, all in the first US series against the Cardinals. He had scoreless outings in the first two games, then, relieved again in a game Dr. Tightpants had started (Kyle allowed eight runs in three innings). Danny gave up three runs while retiring only one batter in a 13-3 Cub loss, whereupon he was sent to Iowa with a 21.00 ERA. He put up a 5.59 ERA in 27 appearances in Triple-A and left baseball for good.

The 2000 Cubs, losers of 97 games, were a horrid team. Expect to see more members of that squad in this series. Danny Young, who appeared in only four games, is mostly a footnote in Cub history, except for the loss he took in Japan. (I was surprised to be able to find a photo of him -- it was taken in a spring training game on March 15, 2000, a 10-4 Cub win over the Brewers. Check out the cap he's wearing and the very evident can of tobacco in his pocket.)

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Poor Guy

Hopefully, he’s doing good. On a positive note, he does look good in a uniform. I always wonder how some of these guys, who had such a small taste of MLB, look back on that time. I’m sure most of it is good. Personally, I’ve dreamed of just being able to walk out on a major league field…especially Wrigley. Ah well. I hope he loved every second of it.

by TheHawkRules on Nov 17, 2008 10:03 AM CST reply actions   0 recs

A Cup of Coffee

I have a friend who got the call from the minors to the Cubs one September in 47
Up for a few weeks …. that was it. As they say he was up for a “Cup of Coffee”
He is in his 80’s and still remembers that call up like it was yesterday, knew Yosh
when he was a young guy…………

by nimblenikelfoos on Nov 17, 2008 10:29 AM CST reply actions   0 recs

Cup of Coffee

I bet that was some great tasting coffee. I’m sure he’ll never forget the smell. Must be nice.

by TheHawkRules on Nov 17, 2008 11:07 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Who was it?

"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al on Nov 17, 2008 12:05 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Looking through the Cubs 1947 roster

on Baseball Reference, nobody really matches that description. The closest player alive I can find is Freddy Scmidt who only played one game for the Cubs that year. But he played in the ‘44 World Series with the Cards so it can’t be him.

Old Style is the nectar of life.

by Mordecai on Nov 17, 2008 1:37 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Sal Madrid?

Madrid got a September call up in 47 but it says he died in 77.

by jeff_pico on Nov 17, 2008 1:41 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

It was the doctor in "Field of Dreams"

can’t remember his name now, Sandy something maybe? No I’m thinking of Sandy Grimes in Bull Durham.

Tommie Agee was out.
"This field, this game, is a part of our past. It reminds us of all that was once good, and it could be good again." TM

by Weeghman Park on Nov 17, 2008 1:49 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Archie "Moonglow" Graham?

"Hats for bats.....keep bats warm." - Pedro Cerrano
"Hey bartender, Jobu needs a refill !!!!!!!" - Eddie Harris

by willie mays hayes' gloves on Nov 17, 2008 2:03 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Sorry - "Moonlight"

"Hats for bats.....keep bats warm." - Pedro Cerrano
"Hey bartender, Jobu needs a refill !!!!!!!" - Eddie Harris

by willie mays hayes' gloves on Nov 17, 2008 2:06 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Got to be

Tommie Agee was out.
"This field, this game, is a part of our past. It reminds us of all that was once good, and it could be good again." TM

by Weeghman Park on Nov 17, 2008 2:19 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Go the distance.

"Hats for bats.....keep bats warm." - Pedro Cerrano
"Hey bartender, Jobu needs a refill !!!!!!!" - Eddie Harris

by willie mays hayes' gloves on Nov 17, 2008 2:21 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

If you build it, he will come

Did you know he was based on a real life ball player?

Old Style is the nectar of life.

by Mordecai on Nov 17, 2008 2:22 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Aww, that's as depressing as the movie

not a single AB

I hope he had a good life as a doctor.

Tommie Agee was out.
"This field, this game, is a part of our past. It reminds us of all that was once good, and it could be good again." TM

by Weeghman Park on Nov 17, 2008 2:26 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

"I best be gettin' home, for Alecia thinks I got a girlfriend"

"Hats for bats.....keep bats warm." - Pedro Cerrano
"Hey bartender, Jobu needs a refill !!!!!!!" - Eddie Harris

by willie mays hayes' gloves on Nov 17, 2008 2:28 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

That's pretty cool. I never knew that.

"Hats for bats.....keep bats warm." - Pedro Cerrano
"Hey bartender, Jobu needs a refill !!!!!!!" - Eddie Harris

by willie mays hayes' gloves on Nov 17, 2008 2:27 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Don Baylor

I actually remember an interview with Don Baylor when he was high on Danny Young and thought he would be a key member of the bullpen, I guess that should have been a warning sign that the 2000 teams pitching staff was going to be really bad.

by jeff_pico on Nov 17, 2008 10:45 AM CST reply actions   0 recs

I dunno about this can of worms

Young doesn’t really fit into the Farnsworth/Hundley mold. I do not remember this guy at all, but you gotta give him props for being such a low prospect and at least making it to the bigs. I understand the reason for including him, but com’on – say it with Colin & I: “Sample size”!

And if Danny Young can make this list, I surely hope Bobby Howry’s 2008 season can make it, too.

Dan

Evey Hammond: Vi Veri Veniversum Vivus Vici. V: By the power of truth, I, while living, have conquered the universe.

by dtpollitt on Nov 17, 2008 11:18 AM CST reply actions   0 recs

For some reason guys like Danny Young, Andrew Lorraine, Micah Bowie are pretty much the lowpoint in my life as a Cubs fan since 1984. I know Young is pretty obscure but he’s a perfect example of a guy making a team and having no business in the major leagues.

by jeff_pico on Nov 17, 2008 11:22 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

No, he wasn't a bad guy.

Just a bad pitcher.

"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al on Nov 17, 2008 12:05 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Wherever he is...

…Danny Young would probably pretty surprised to see his career profiled. For my part, I can only hope this paves the way for a profile of Steve Rain, who was about the only fun thing to happen to those miserable ’99 or 2000 Cubs teams…

"Some people will look at a glass of water and say it's half-empty, while another guy will look at it and say it's half-full. A Cubs fan looks at the same glass and asks, "When's it gonna spill?" - Mike Royko

by LaddieRenfroe on Nov 17, 2008 11:25 AM CST reply actions   0 recs

suggestion

I wouldn’t mind seeing Andy Pratt profiled and looking it up he threw less than 2 innings as a Cub. He was probably the wildest pitcher the Cubs have ever had in the last 20-30 years at least.

by jeff_pico on Nov 17, 2008 11:31 AM CST reply actions   0 recs

I remember those innings.

He almost literally couldn’t throw a strike. He’s on the list of people being considered.

"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al on Nov 17, 2008 12:05 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Mentioning Andy Pratt and this entire series of cans of worms, actually, reminds me...

even when I was a little kid, I couldn’t understand how anyone could be a major league player and be bad. I mean, there are thousands of people who play ball for their entire childhood, high school/college years and probably several thousand in the minor leagues and how could someone get to the bigs and then not be able to throw a strike? Or field a routine grounder? Or lay off a 55’ changeup in the dirt?

Is it a mental thing where they could do things physically well enough to get there but the pressure just blows them away? Maybe it’s just because I watch, and played, baseball way more than any other sport but I don’t notice “bad” players so much in football or basketball. What’s up with that?

Tommie Agee was out.
"This field, this game, is a part of our past. It reminds us of all that was once good, and it could be good again." TM

by Weeghman Park on Nov 17, 2008 12:26 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

individual talent

individual talent is just more noticeable in baseball..the focus is on the player more than the ‘team’ concept.

Think of some other things in football and basketball that players can really stick out as being bad:

Free throw shooting
Quarterback play
Field goal kickers

In all of these things its easy to just point out the individual as being ‘bad’.

Alot of basketball and football the actual bad play gets lost in team play or can be argued that the other team member was to blame. In baseball you can only blame the batter for swinging at the ball in the dirt or the pitcher not throwing strikes.

by jeff_pico on Nov 17, 2008 12:32 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Fine lookin' kid.

Interesting story.

"I see I'm not the only one around here who can't hold his water." - Last words of the leaky pipe in the visiting team dugout, Dodger Stadium, October 4, 2008.

by dat cubfan daver on Nov 17, 2008 1:26 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

Looks like Tarzan...

…Plays like Jane!

     Who would fill that all time Cub team. How about Derrick May in left for starters.

by HomerInTheGloamin' on Nov 17, 2008 1:30 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

Late round picks...

Between the mid-80s and 1997, teams could keep drafting as long as they wanted. Most teams quit by about the 60th round but a handful of teams would keep going. With the draft-and-follow rule then in effect, I suppose that I can see the logic of taking flyers on a few extra guys. That being said, almost all of the players that were selected in those very late rounds never amounted to anything, with Mike Piazza (a 62nd round pick) being the famous exception. Moreover, the draft-and-follow picks from those rounds usually didn’t sign. For example, Tampa drafted until the 92nd round during the last year of the old system, and their 89th and 90th round picks both made the big leagues…but Willie Harris and Robby Hammock both waited to sign until they were drafted much higher, by other organizations, in following years.

Houston drafted between 80-100 players almost every season, which usually made them either the last or next-to-last team still drafting. For example, the 83rd round of the 1990 consisted of Danny Young and only Danny Young, so it’s not like all the GMs were still on the phone making picks. I imagine that, with only one team or two teams drafting, those last rounds didn’t take very long to conduct. Houston got nothing to show for that organizational philosophy – they did draft a few guys in those late rounds that eventually wound in the majors, such as Johnny Estrada and Jay Witasick, but they didn’t actually sign anyone that made the majors…except Danny Young.

"Some people will look at a glass of water and say it's half-empty, while another guy will look at it and say it's half-full. A Cubs fan looks at the same glass and asks, "When's it gonna spill?" - Mike Royko

by LaddieRenfroe on Nov 17, 2008 1:45 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

Thanks for all of this.

I did not know that. I do believe that Young is the lowest-round pick to ever play in the majors.

"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al on Nov 17, 2008 6:05 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

A retrospect on Danny Friggin Young

Crikey. Al, I can hardly wait for your eight-part series on Tim Blackwell. Because if you devoted a headliner to Danny Friggin Young then…

BCB, home of the insidious campaign of the clueless to "Dustyfy" an outstanding manager in Lou Piniella.

by MDBNIU on Nov 17, 2008 3:37 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

Well, NOW I remember this guy...

It was almost the end of second grade for me and I had been a rabid Cubs fan since ’97. I remember the Japan series quite vividly, because my mom used to wake me up around six in the morning to watch the middle innings to the conclusion of the games.

Danny Young was on my immediate “bad” list. Why? Because when your bullpen holds down the fort so well, and some nobody comes in and blows it for you (with two outs, mind you) to someone like Benny Agbayani, SOMETHING’S not quite right. He proved to us in a few more of his appearances that he just wasn’t up to snuff, so he never pitched in the majors again after we sent him down.

I sorta feel bad for the guy. You gotta love his passion, sticking around that long (and OF COURSE the 2000 Cubs were the team to get him!), and finally when he makes it to the big time, he can’t prove himself. It really is a shame.

I look forward to the rest of your 2000 team names, since its a team I distinctly remember. Willie Greene and Ismael Valdez come to mind…

by AeroZach on Nov 17, 2008 4:06 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

For someone who is all about getting rid of anything that is part of the losing culture

You are wasting your time ragging a guy that overachieved on every level and lived the dream while holding a very insignificant role in Cubs history.

by uwbadger on Nov 17, 2008 4:32 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

I kind of agree...

…with the waste of time bit. He was a career minor leaguer that threw two lousy innings. The article was well presented and all, and I appreciate the effort. But it seems kind of mean making fun of 25th man types. This list should be reserved for players that were actually expected to contribute and didn’t, or players that wasted hundreds of soul-sucking at-bats with their lousiness. Like….

Todd Hundley
Mel Rojas
Gary Scott
Corey Patterson
Kyle Farnsworth
Neifi Perez

Then again, the guy making the point about the whole thing being counter-intuitive to your ‘forget the loser past’ is probably the most spot on. Seriously, I’ve mostly ignored these posts because reading about Cub Losers is a constant reminder of the 2008 playoffs. And that’s not good.

by MikeJ on Nov 17, 2008 7:21 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

There will be plenty of that, believe me.

"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al on Nov 17, 2008 8:58 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

I'm responding to these a little differently

The whole concept of someone making it to the show but maybe for one game or part of a season at most is intriguing to me. I’m blasting through baseball-reference through the random track and it’s amazing how many guys pop up who had one game or several games over the course of a week or two and then disappeared out of sight.

“Field of Dreams” gives us one example of one of those stories but think of all the other possibilities. There’s one guy, Frank Smykel, who played in 6 games, got 6 AB and hit .500, and then never played another game. What would he have had to hit to come back next season-.750?

I am really interested in researching these guys who were the fillers, experiments, favor for a friend, or just bad scouting call. What do you the rest of your life then? Do you brag about having been to the show and gloss over the details or do you pretend it never happened? Would you rather say, “Yeah, I played one game in the majors but wasn’t good enough to stick around” or “I just never was good enough to get beyond AAA ball.”

It’s hard to identify, at least for me, with someone like Aramis Ramirez or Albert or Jeter because they are in a different dimension. But i’m finding guys in the 1800s and early 1900 who could have been me if I were born then and have gotten a shot at it. Fast, little, scrappy guys that could get on base and steal bases and play aggressive, if not delicate, defense. It’s intriguing to think that back then any of us would have had a statistically significantly better opportunity to play in the show.

Hell, my uncle was drafted by the Phillies in the 30s and he was my size, Hit like Ted Williams though. Yankees bought his contract but hen he contracted a crippling form of athletes foot fungus and had to quit baseball almost overnight.

Tommie Agee was out.
"This field, this game, is a part of our past. It reminds us of all that was once good, and it could be good again." TM

by Weeghman Park on Nov 17, 2008 9:06 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

Interesting about your uncle.

You did mean “signed”, not “drafted”, right? Because the draft wasn’t instituted until 1965.

Did he play in the minors at all?

I think this was a common story for a lot of young players with talent in that era: either they got hurt, or sick, or needed to make a living and couldn’t from baseball (remember, until about 25 years ago most players had offseason jobs; few if any regulars do today).

"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al on Nov 17, 2008 10:25 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

It was probably "signed" and yes he did play for the Terre Haute Phillies for at least one season;

my grandmother always said “drafted” but I don’t think she really knew what was going on. I have a diary of hers from back then and a few lines are precious:

Ernie, the one who played prof ball for at least a little while, was a prodigious home run hitter. One day the teammate who was supposed to pick him up to take him to Terre Haute to the ball park never showed up so he missed the game. Her diary entry was “Ernie missed the game. They lost of course.”

A few years earlier, the older brother, Bob, who was an even better baseball player and who got killed in WWII, was gored by the family bull they had for breeding. Her diary entries were:

Jan 15: Bob got gored by the bull
Jan 16: Pete (my grandfather) sold the bull

Tommie Agee was out.
"This field, this game, is a part of our past. It reminds us of all that was once good, and it could be good again." TM

by Weeghman Park on Nov 17, 2008 11:33 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

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