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Cubs AFL Report: Solar Sox 13, Javelinas 6

MESA, Arizona -- The grass was a little browner than I remembered it from last March, scorched by the summer Arizona sun.

But parking's free, and it costs only $6 to get in -- sit anywhere -- so why not? I headed over to Ho Ho Kam Park Monday afternoon to take in the AFL game between the Mesa Solar Sox (comprised of prospects from the Cubs, Phillies, Braves, Marlins and Tigers) and the Peoria Javelinas (taking their players from the Mariners, Rays, Yankees, Brewers and Reds). A Javelina, apparently, is some sort of wild pig, as shown by their logo:

Personally, I like the Solar Sox logo (at left) better.

The PA guy (not Tim Sheridan, who does the Cubs' spring games, but someone else) laid a little joke on the small assemblage when announcing the attendance: at first he said "13,297", then adjusted it to 297 (and that must have included the 15 or so scouts, both teams and the employees behind the one concession stand that was open, and though the ticket price was cheap, the food was not: full major league prices for the limited selection). Those of us enjoying the above-average 78-degree game-time temperature and completely cloudless skies saw the Solar Sox beat the Javelinas 13-6 in a game that wasn't that close -- it was 13-0 Mesa at the end of the fifth inning, and then Mesa relievers gave up three homers and six runs over the last four innings. More on this later.

I'll talk more about the Cubs involved in this game in a moment, but the story of the game was Atlanta pitching prospect Tommy Hanson, a 22-year-old, 6-6 moose of a guy who throws bullets and has a nasty breaking ball; he threw five shutout innings, allowing one hit and two walks and striking out ten. It's no wonder that the Padres spent a good portion of the last couple of weeks trying to pry him away from the Braves in the Jake Peavy negotiations. Nor is it surprising, given the talent I saw today, that the Braves said no way. Hanson, though he spent 2008 split between the Carolina League and the Southern League, might be ready for a shot at the Atlanta rotation in 2009.

The Solar Sox scored first; Matt Young, another Atlanta prospect, led off the game with a walk (there were 12 walks in all in the game, which made it drag at times); next up was the Cubs' Nate Spears. After faking a bunt, then taking a pitch:

Ball one!

Spears swung at the next pitch, and on this swing (the catcher is faking a throw to second as the runner had taken off):

Swing and a drive!

... he smacked a two-run homer, his first in the AFL, down the right-field line. Spears later singled, struck out, walked and flied to left, going 2-for-4 with two runs scored and two RBI. Personally, I like Spears; he's hitting .338/.457/.500 and has split his time between SS and 2B almost equally during the AFL season. I am well aware cough Sam Fuld cough that AFL stats don't necessarily translate into major league success. However, I think Spears at the very least will get a spring training invite and possibly as much as being added to the 40-man roster (after the Rule 5 draft) with a chance of making the major league team as a reserve infielder.

The Solar Sox added two more runs in the third off Peoria starter Alex Periard (from the Brewers; he was less than impressive, walking four and allowing eight hits and six runs in 3.2 innings). Steve Kahn (Mariners) came in and promptly gave up a single and a walk to load the bases, and another Atlanta prospect, third baseman Van Pope, hit a grand slam to the right-field berm (sorry, Ballhawk, the berm was officially closed, although that didn't stop a couple of people from trying to run after the six home run balls hit out there -- even though they had the sprinklers going in right field most of the afternoon).

The Cubs' other position prospect who played in Monday's game was Darwin Barney, a fourth-round pick out of Oregon State in 2007. This faked bunt attempt:

Go get 'em Darwin!

... eventually resulted in Barney grounding into a 5-4-3 double play (on a subsequent pitch). Barney grounded out three times, popped up and walked in his five times up (he hit ninth in this DH-used game).

Cub pitching prospects didn't do very well. Rocky Roquet, rather old for this league and his level (he turned 26 two weeks ago and has never pitched above Double-A), relieved Hanson and allowed three runs (two earned, thanks to a throwing error by Spears) when Yankee prospect Juan Miranda slammed a three-run homer. All three outs recorded by Roquet were on deep fly balls.

I keep thinking of the Beatles song 'Rocky Raccoon' whenever I hear Roquet's name

And Esmailin Caridad, who had one appearance for the major league Cubs in spring training in 2008, didn't distinguish himself, either; after retiring the first two hitters in the 8th inning on lazy popups, he issued a walk and then Miranda hit his second homer of the game. Caridad throws pretty hard for a guy his size, only 5-10, 195:

Esmailin' it in

Finally, the hitting coach for the Solar Sox is someone you might recognize:

Ryno!

In the AFL many of the coaches and managers serve as base coaches; Peoria's manager Daren Brown (who manages Seattle's Triple-A team at Tacoma) coached third, while former Cub Ozzie Timmons coached first. For Mesa, manager Rocket Wheeler didn't coach, which left first-base coaching duties for various players who weren't in the game, and third-base coaching for Ryno. I was sitting in the first row behind the Peoria dugout and overheard, toward the end of the game, and also toward the end of his conversation, one of the Peoria coaches, who I thought I recognized, telling either one of his players or one of the other coaches -- I couldn't tell which -- that Mesa's hitting coach was "Ryne Fucking Sandberg". (There was, apparently, a reason for this reference, but I didn't catch it.) Then I figured out who uttered that profanity... Peoria pitching coach Ted Power, onetime closer for the Reds who was, briefly, in spring training with the Cubs (and I believe, Sandberg's teammate), trying to hang on in March 1994.

Baseball. Love it. Glad to have seen a ballgame in mid-November. Can't wait for spring training!

All photos by Al Yellon

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Nice...

it’s actually warmer in So Cal, hence — more fires.

by San Diego Smooth Jazz Man on Nov 17, 2008 10:35 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

Awesome

Thanks – just for a second, that did transport me to spring training.

I’d have to think that would be a pretty good opportunity to say hello to Ryno, if one were so inclined.

by 08Cubs on Nov 17, 2008 11:24 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

Groundskeeper Note

The grass isn’t brown from being scorched by the summer heat, Al. The grass used in the desert is Bermuda and once the night time temperatures dip below about 65 degrees, Bermuda goes dormant. Sometime over the next few weeks, when the Bermuda goes good and dormant (Completely brown) it will be overseeded with rye grass, which is how it will be nice and green for Spring Training in March.

by azjazzman on Nov 18, 2008 1:02 AM CST reply actions   0 recs

Thanks for the clarification.

I did not know that.

"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al on Nov 18, 2008 8:53 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Lucky guy, Al

Is Spears not eligible for the Rule V this year?

by AceCubbie on Nov 18, 2008 7:01 AM CST reply actions   0 recs

I guess he'd have to be placed on the 40-man roster, right?

"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al on Nov 18, 2008 8:54 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Al, you know where I'm coming from on this one...

did you happen to notice – was the outfield berm open to fans, if they were so inclined?

I know some places cough vero-effin-beach cough during spring training wouldn’t open the outfield berm during weekdays or other less-drawing games – and obviously AFL games don’t draw at all. I understand them not wanting to man the gates or staff the concession stands, but it’s always nice to have the option to lay down on a towel and take a little nap bout the 5th inning…

Or chase down a home run ball.

Lou Brown: "My kinda team, Charlie, my kinda team..."

by ballhawk on Nov 18, 2008 7:29 AM CST reply actions   0 recs

They made specific announcements...

… that the berm was off-limits, although the gates were open. You’d think if they wanted to keep it off-limits, they’d just lock the gates.

"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al on Nov 18, 2008 8:55 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

DANG.

now I am officially jealous of youse guys who can skip out to the Land of El Sol and enjoy winter ball .. Jim’s right .. The Game Is Never Over

Well, Next Year is here .. and Jack's century's gotta end some time .. GO CUBBIES!

by cubnational on Nov 18, 2008 8:50 AM CST reply actions   0 recs

totally un-related

It must be crappy old Cubs birthdays today! I noticed these ex-Cubs are having birthday’s on Nov. 18th. Steve Henderson / Sterling Slaughter / Cal Koonce / Dan Briggs / Ron Coomer. Also two actual good players in Flash Gordon & Jamie Moyer.

"It's a funny old world. Man's lucky if he gets out of it alive." W.C. Fields

by KedzieKid on Nov 18, 2008 9:27 AM CST reply actions   0 recs

Good to see Ryno coaching in the AFL

It looks like he really is dedicated to learning how to manage the game literally from the bottom up.

Old Style is the nectar of life.

by Mordecai on Nov 18, 2008 9:57 AM CST reply actions   0 recs

Ryno also lives out here in Phoenix.....

 That probably has something to do with it as well.

Over time, your quickness with a cocky rejoinder must have gotten you many punches in the face - Al Swearengen

by lemon20pie on Nov 18, 2008 1:26 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

For your continuing education credits, Al.

Though some people think javelina are a type of wild pig, they are actually members of the peccary family, a group of hoofed mammals originating from South America. Javelina are common in much of central and southern Arizona, including the outskirts of the Phoenix area, most of Tucson, and occasionally as far north as Flagstaff. Javelina form herds of two to more than 20 animals and rely on each other to defend territory, protect against predators, regulate temperature and interact socially. They use washes and areas with dense vegetation as travel corridors. Javelina are most active at night, but may be active during the day when it’s cold.

A baseball game is simply a nervous breakdown divided into nine innings. ~Earl Wilson

by tucsoncubsfan on Nov 18, 2008 10:11 AM CST reply actions   0 recs

And

…they are ill tempered, nasty little buggers, too. If you should encounter one, don’t try to feed it or you will live to regret it.

azjazzman (whose father used to take javelina hunting as a chid)

by azjazzman on Nov 18, 2008 10:40 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Had two on my doorstep last week

A mother and her baby – they were dining on my flower pots. The dog alerted me to them.

They come down from the hills in late October, when their young can travel with them, and they wipe out any pumpkins left out during halloween, and most flowers which they can reach.

As Azjazzman mentioned, they are not to be messed with, especially when they are with their young. Funny looking animals who like to be left alone.

I’ve been going to AFL games for years – the best minor league action anywhere on earth.

"Hey Hey, Holy Mackerel, No Doubt About It!"

by scottsdalecubs on Nov 18, 2008 11:09 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Thanks for this education!

The logo looks like a pig, though.

"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al on Nov 18, 2008 12:13 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Nasty buggers is right....

…..I went out to take my garbage out one time and 2 of them were chomping on my neighbors left over Dominoes pizza that he just layed on top of his garbage and apparently threated, they both instinctively charged me and my half full garbage bag, which I tossed up in the air and if it wasn’t for the hood of my car, which I jumped on straight out of the DUkes of hazard style, I am not sure if I would be alive today.

Over time, your quickness with a cocky rejoinder must have gotten you many punches in the face - Al Swearengen

by lemon20pie on Nov 18, 2008 1:30 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Offseason BCB...

…always funny how javelina survival stories take center stage when baseball is in offseason.

On that note, I got rushed by a javelina (collared peccary) when I was a kid. We were hunting and I had walked back to the truck to get a coke. The javelina was on the opposite side of the truck. He knocked me down and a few seconds later my dad shot him. Punk javelina.

"I'm petrified of nipple chafing. Once it starts, it's a vicious circle." Andy Bernard

by TXCub on Nov 18, 2008 1:57 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Y'know when I woke up this morning...

…I had no idea that I’d be learning about javelinas on BCB today. In all honesty, I’d never heard of these ornery beasts before reading this. Interesting stuff. They sound like raccoons with attitudes.

"I see I'm not the only one around here who can't hold his water." - Last words of the leaky pipe in the visiting team dugout, Dodger Stadium, October 4, 2008.

by dat cubfan daver on Nov 18, 2008 3:42 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

raccoons on 'roids with attitudes...

Lou Brown: "My kinda team, Charlie, my kinda team..."

by ballhawk on Nov 18, 2008 5:52 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Great Writeup!

Anyone know if Spears could consitently play SS… i like his stick

"I played with one of the best pitchers in history, Greg Maddux," Zambrano said"

by fischisgod on Nov 18, 2008 10:50 AM CST reply actions   0 recs

Probably not as a regular.

But I still think he could make the club as a backup.

"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al on Nov 18, 2008 12:14 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Spears...

….I see a lot of AFL games and over the years, I’ve learned to take everything a player does offensively, even Sam Fuld, which is funny you mention the comparison Al, because Fuld is who I compare Spears to when talking to Cub fans I chat with out here, with a grain of salt.

 Spears does seem to be like he is a relatively solid player with best hope aspirations of being a utility player on a MLB roster. Of all the Cub prospects, he’s impressed me the most. Actually, he’s the only one who has made an impression on me whatsoever.

The rest of these guys out here, will never sniff a MLB roster. This is the first time I’ve seen Veal and wow, I just don’t see all the hype. Bust.

Over time, your quickness with a cocky rejoinder must have gotten you many punches in the face - Al Swearengen

by lemon20pie on Nov 18, 2008 1:37 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

I didn't see Veal pitch yesterday, obviously...

… he did a couple of slow walks from the bullpen to the bench and back again. His AFL stats are pretty bad. He may indeed be a bust.

Agreed, too, on Spears. He IS eligible for the Rule 5 draft, but I’m guessing that after the AFL season is over, he’ll be added to the 40-man roster.

"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al on Nov 18, 2008 4:28 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Some random AFL thoughts

IMHO, in a lot of ways, the AFL is lot more interesting than Spring Training. The whole concept of the AFL is to provide major league teams a chance to see their (and everybody else’s) top prospects in a highly competitive setting. Make no mistake, these players are the ones that teams want to evaluate and in a lot of ways, performance in the AFL has a lot more impact on who will be making major league rosters next year than anything that happens in the spring. And, they play to win!

Evidence of this is the fact that the first AFL pitch this year was thrown by Clay Bucholz, of Red Sox no hit fame in 2007.

The list of players that have “made their name” so to speak, in the AFL is mind boggling. How about Albert Pujols, Ryan Howard, Derek Jeter, Mike Pizza, Ryan Braun, etc etc. In fact, at the 2008 All Star game at Yankee Stadium, 39 of the 60 players selected were AFL alums.

Added to the fact that you can pretty much sit anywhere you want in all those nice ballparks that tend to be packed in the spring, and if you choose to sit behind home plate there is a good chance you will be sitting next to a whole group of major league scouts. Plus, our AZ fall weather is frequently even nicer than the spring, if you can imagine that.

All in all, the AFL is a mostly hidden gem for true baseball fans.

Hey, Al, did you run into the ubiquitous but shadowy Arizona Phil at the ball park?

by azjazzman on Nov 18, 2008 10:57 AM CST reply actions   0 recs

There was a ceremony...

… on Saturday at Ho Ho Kam, inducting Derrek Lee into the AFL Hall of Fame. The game drew 1500+, about five times what a usual AFL game draws.

About AZ Phil, I thought about that while I was there. While he might have been there, I have absolutely no idea what he looks like.

"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al on Nov 18, 2008 12:15 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Was DLee actually there for the ceremony?

"I see I'm not the only one around here who can't hold his water." - Last words of the leaky pipe in the visiting team dugout, Dodger Stadium, October 4, 2008.

by dat cubfan daver on Nov 18, 2008 3:45 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Yes.

Linky

Photo:

(that’s AFL Executive Director Steve Cobb presenting D-Lee his award)

"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al on Nov 18, 2008 4:30 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Cool, thanks!

DLee looks pretty relaxed and happy. I hope he feels that way going into the ’09 season.

"I see I'm not the only one around here who can't hold his water." - Last words of the leaky pipe in the visiting team dugout, Dodger Stadium, October 4, 2008.

by dat cubfan daver on Nov 18, 2008 4:42 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Yes

 There’s been a very impressive list of players who have played in the AFL and it is gaining some credibility. I enjoy it more than Spring Training actually. Like Al said, it’s baseball at it’s purest. You can literally hear the players talking to themselves and all the things that they’ve been taught throughout the years will spill from their lips as a reminder of what they did wrong with that swing or that mental defensive error.

 It’s wonderful and it’s one of my favorite things about living in AZ.

Over time, your quickness with a cocky rejoinder must have gotten you many punches in the face - Al Swearengen

by lemon20pie on Nov 18, 2008 1:43 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Thanks for the recap Al.

I was a little disappointed to hear Rocky Roquet didn’t look good. I wasn’t expecting much out of him, but I thought he might be at least serviceable at the AAA level this year.

Good to hear that Ryno was coaching third. Like Mordecai stated above, good to see him working from the ground up to become a, hopefully, successful MLB manager some day.

by Tangled Up In Blue on Nov 18, 2008 11:04 AM CST reply actions   0 recs

Demps

And on a side note, we have a pitcher named Ryan Dempster for a while.

by KDoggers on Nov 18, 2008 3:35 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

Cool post, Al.

Man, sitting in the sun watching a ballgame sounds like heaven right now. (My browser tells me it’s currently 34 degrees here in Chi-town.) Sounded like a good day for Nate Spears.

"I see I'm not the only one around here who can't hold his water." - Last words of the leaky pipe in the visiting team dugout, Dodger Stadium, October 4, 2008.

by dat cubfan daver on Nov 18, 2008 4:01 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

Nate Spears is a lot better than Sam Fuld

He may not be any better than Mike Fontenot, but he’s got a much brighter future than Sam Fuld.

by Josh77 on Nov 18, 2008 5:03 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

Agreed.

 As I think Spears could actually have enough potential to be a utility player on a MLB roster. Actually, and this may be my general hatred of Cedeno talking, but I think that I would rather have Spears on the roster over Cedeno and he hits LH as well.

Over time, your quickness with a cocky rejoinder must have gotten you many punches in the face - Al Swearengen

by lemon20pie on Nov 18, 2008 8:21 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

I agree with both of you.

"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al on Nov 18, 2008 9:45 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

SPRING TRAINING 09

Other than Best Western Dobson Ranch who else knows of a good motel in the Mesa area . Location and price are of course a factor . Seems like some of these places really take advantage of the baseball fans …….

by cubs north on Nov 19, 2008 12:33 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

Well...

… can you blame them? March is peak tourist season in the Valley of the Sun. They know a ton of people come there for spring training, so they try to make their biggest bucks at that time.

You might try the Mezona Inn, which is only about a mile from Ho Ho Kam Park. If you’re going, call now, because they get booked early.

"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al on Nov 19, 2008 12:43 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

This is the dilemma

it’s true that hotels are ridiculously expensive that time of year. Not just because of Spring Training, either. But unfortunately, it is what it is.

There is a Holiday Inn Express on Apache Blvd. in Tempe that is pretty nice.

It depends on whether you have transportation or not. If you do, then a lot of options open up to you. There are reasonably priced places, but you have to search for them, and they most likely will not be close to any of the ballparks.

BTW, did you Cubbie fans know that Hyatt is building a 4 story hotel at Mesa Riverview, (which is a mile or so from Hohokam) that will have a baseball theme? Should be ready in time for ST 2010.

by azjazzman on Nov 19, 2008 9:51 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

I did not know that.

He’s right about the distance — it’s very close, right off highway 202. That ought to be a VERY popular destination for Cubs fans.

"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al on Nov 19, 2008 10:13 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

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