Who will become the new Face of the Team?
by puckishcubsfan on Nov 19, 2008 6:43 AM CST
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PrintOkay let's assume Kerry Wood is gone. While I do hope the door is not completely closed I have decided to accept it and hope everything comes out okay in the end for everyone involved and knock on wood (no pun intended) he goes to the AL where we can fully root for him without worrying about him haunting the Cubs.
So as the Cubs move on, who do you think replaces Kerry as the face of the team and replaces his presence off the field and in the clubhouse?
(for the record I am confident in Marmol as the closer I'm more worried about replacing Marmol in his previous role)
My first vote goes at least for now for Ryan Dempster as far as off the field charitable events and clubhouse leader.
The next vote would be for Geovany Soto and I think he will not only become the clubhouse leader but he has a good chance to become the face of the franchise.
Other face of the franchise possibilities would have to be Lee or Zambrano.
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Geo or Demp
Geo likely will be in time.
Demp I think should be. He’s talkative, he’s hilarious, he gets it and he’s just a great guy from all reports.
Z probably is it but he’s too angry and mouthy.
Lee is too quiet. Never hear him say much.
From KOW to ROW? So soon?
Don’t think in terms of “face” of the franchise, more just plain seniority. Which means Big Z is the Big Cheese now.
My next sig line quote will also be from Lou Piniella, and the first word will be either "Look", or "Listen", followed by a comma.
I'm sorry but I think this is way overblown
Team leaders usually just evolve. There isn’t a team vote for who is team leader.
I’m still not sure that Wood was the team leader anyway. I don’t think this team has one in the way of a Derek Jeter type. That might be one of the problems on this team. Closers in any case aren’t usually the team leader.
Team leader and "face of the franchise"
… aren’t necessarily the same thing.
"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx
Maybe, except...
… Lee’s a pretty quiet guy. I’d think over time, it might become Soto.
"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx
Well it does go to your point on leader vs. face
Leader-wise Soto is the logical choice over time. Frequently it is a catcher. See Varitek, Pudge, etc.
Huh?
And that has what to do with the topic?
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That's not my nephew in the picture. Don't have one to upload yet.
by puckishcubsfan on Nov 19, 2008 8:59 AM CST up reply actions
Yeah, the guy who carries the pink backpack, of course.
Sheesh.
"I see I'm not the only one around here who can't hold his water." - Last words of the leaky pipe in the visiting team dugout, Dodger Stadium, October 4, 2008.
Who was/is the face of the Phillies?
Tommie Agee was out.
"This field, this game, is a part of our past. It reminds us of all that was once good, and it could be good again." TM
It's hard to say as we are not Phillies fans...
… that designation is often given to a player who’s not necessarily the best player on the team. Maybe it’s Pat Burrell, maybe it’s Chase Utley. You’d have to ask a Phillies. fan.
"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx
Jamie Moyer (I prefer an old face)
"Hats for bats.....keep bats warm." - Pedro Cerrano
"Hey bartender, Jobu needs a refill !!!!!!!" - Eddie Harris
by willie mays hayes' gloves on Nov 19, 2008 10:13 AM CST up reply actions
The face of the franchise
Is a special effects morph of Ron Santo, a goat and Steve Bartman
The LEADER of the team is something else entirely.
I think it will turn out to be Soto. Catchers are kind of naturally there anyway.
The worst beer I had was pretty good.
I didn't know Woody was the face of the franchise in 2008...
But if it’s going to be anyone going forward, it WILL be Soto. How he goes about his stuff, the fact he’ll be in a 140-ish games and how he handles that staff especially that crazy guy we all love, named “Z” makes him the obvious choice.
Sweet Lou for Mayor in '11.
I don't think ...
there’s been a “face” of the Cubs since Sosa left. I guess you could argue D-Lee was in 2005 and in 2006 (when the team’s woes were largely attributed to his injury).
Ramirez, to me, is the best player on the Cubs. D-Lee is the team leader. DeRosa and Dempster are the quotable Cubs. Soriano, Fukudome and Zambrano are the other big names, and Soto is now at that table.
Wood was my favorite Cub for years, and I don’t mean to belittle him. But he wasn’t the face of the team considering how little he played in 2005-07 AND his conversion to the bullpen. Closers rarely occupy the “face” role. Brad Lidge was about as good as a closer could be last year, but several Phillies — Chase Utley, Ryan Howard, Rollins — would get the nod over Lidge.
Soriano.
"That’s the great thing about baseball, you never know what’s going to happen till you get the final out." — Lou Piniella
I love me some Geo Soto, but...
I think it’s very premature to talk about him being the face of the franchise considering he’s only played one full season.
I kinda thought that...
…one of the things that made the 2008 (regular season) Cubs so special is that they didn’t have a “face.” They were a solid team top to bottom with no one player hogging the spotlight. I mean, Kerry Wood was certainly a familiar “face” but was he “The Face.” Meh, I don’t really think so.
I’d just assume not waste too many brain cells on questions like this. In fact, my resolution for next season is to try to strip away all my silly superstitions and hero worship and just focus on baseball.
"I see I'm not the only one around here who can't hold his water." - Last words of the leaky pipe in the visiting team dugout, Dodger Stadium, October 4, 2008.
+1.....well said
"When I got to Chicago, fans came to Wrigley Field just to have fun, now they come to see us win. The expectations have changed, for the players and for the fans. It’s about winning." Kerry Wood, 7/14/08
Adam Dunn.
"I see I'm not the only one around here who can't hold his water." - Last words of the leaky pipe in the visiting team dugout, Dodger Stadium, October 4, 2008.
Sounds like a porn name.
"I see I'm not the only one around here who can't hold his water." - Last words of the leaky pipe in the visiting team dugout, Dodger Stadium, October 4, 2008.
Or a country-western singer.
"Hats for bats.....keep bats warm." - Pedro Cerrano
"Hey bartender, Jobu needs a refill !!!!!!!" - Eddie Harris
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Cockfight at the O.K Corral
"Hats for bats.....keep bats warm." - Pedro Cerrano
"Hey bartender, Jobu needs a refill !!!!!!!" - Eddie Harris
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Texas Sluts Across the River
Tommie Agee was out.
"This field, this game, is a part of our past. It reminds us of all that was once good, and it could be good again." TM
by Weeghman Park on Nov 19, 2008 3:13 PM CST up reply actions
The Good, The Bad and The Really Really Bad
Tommie Agee was out.
"This field, this game, is a part of our past. It reminds us of all that was once good, and it could be good again." TM
by Weeghman Park on Nov 19, 2008 3:14 PM CST up reply actions
Hang 'Em Low
Tommie Agee was out.
"This field, this game, is a part of our past. It reminds us of all that was once good, and it could be good again." TM
by Weeghman Park on Nov 19, 2008 3:14 PM CST up reply actions
Comes a Horseman
Tommie Agee was out.
"This field, this game, is a part of our past. It reminds us of all that was once good, and it could be good again." TM
by Weeghman Park on Nov 19, 2008 3:15 PM CST up reply actions
Two Mules for Sister Sarah
Tommie Agee was out.
"This field, this game, is a part of our past. It reminds us of all that was once good, and it could be good again." TM
by Weeghman Park on Nov 19, 2008 3:15 PM CST up reply actions
This wins if you put the Tijuana spin to it.
But the wind blew me back via Chicago, In the middle of the night
Bitch Cassidy and the Slow Dance Kid
"Hats for bats.....keep bats warm." - Pedro Cerrano
"Hey bartender, Jobu needs a refill !!!!!!!" - Eddie Harris
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Midnight Cowboy
Tommie Agee was out.
"This field, this game, is a part of our past. It reminds us of all that was once good, and it could be good again." TM
by Weeghman Park on Nov 19, 2008 3:16 PM CST up reply actions
My Darling Came in Time
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"Hey bartender, Jobu needs a refill !!!!!!!" - Eddie Harris
by willie mays hayes' gloves on Nov 19, 2008 3:17 PM CST up reply actions
nice
Tommie Agee was out.
"This field, this game, is a part of our past. It reminds us of all that was once good, and it could be good again." TM
by Weeghman Park on Nov 19, 2008 3:18 PM CST up reply actions
Bareback Mountain
"Hats for bats.....keep bats warm." - Pedro Cerrano
"Hey bartender, Jobu needs a refill !!!!!!!" - Eddie Harris
by willie mays hayes' gloves on Nov 19, 2008 3:16 PM CST up reply actions
They Screwed With Their Boots On
Tommie Agee was out.
"This field, this game, is a part of our past. It reminds us of all that was once good, and it could be good again." TM
by Weeghman Park on Nov 19, 2008 3:17 PM CST up reply actions
Whore Wagon
"Hats for bats.....keep bats warm." - Pedro Cerrano
"Hey bartender, Jobu needs a refill !!!!!!!" - Eddie Harris
by willie mays hayes' gloves on Nov 19, 2008 3:18 PM CST up reply actions
Damn, you beat me to it
Tommie Agee was out.
"This field, this game, is a part of our past. It reminds us of all that was once good, and it could be good again." TM
by Weeghman Park on Nov 19, 2008 3:19 PM CST up reply actions
The Magnificent Seventeen Inches
"I see I'm not the only one around here who can't hold his water." - Last words of the leaky pipe in the visiting team dugout, Dodger Stadium, October 4, 2008.
Blown Star
"This ball's got a chaaaaaance.....(YES!!! YESSS!!!!).....GONE!!! CUBS WIN, CUBS WIN!"
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McCabe Does Mrs. Miller
"I see I'm not the only one around here who can't hold his water." - Last words of the leaky pipe in the visiting team dugout, Dodger Stadium, October 4, 2008.
The Man Who Got Liberty Valance
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"Hey bartender, Jobu needs a refill !!!!!!!" - Eddie Harris
by willie mays hayes' gloves on Nov 19, 2008 3:19 PM CST up reply actions
The Cox-Blow Incident
"I see I'm not the only one around here who can't hold his water." - Last words of the leaky pipe in the visiting team dugout, Dodger Stadium, October 4, 2008.
Bury My Hard On at Wounded Knee
Tommie Agee was out.
"This field, this game, is a part of our past. It reminds us of all that was once good, and it could be good again." TM
by Weeghman Park on Nov 19, 2008 3:21 PM CST up reply actions
Pleasure from the Sierra Madre
"This ball's got a chaaaaaance.....(YES!!! YESSS!!!!).....GONE!!! CUBS WIN, CUBS WIN!"
by FutureGroundscrewMember on Nov 20, 2008 4:36 PM CST up reply actions
AKA - Unsatisfied
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"Hey bartender, Jobu needs a refill !!!!!!!" - Eddie Harris
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Three Amigos...ake La Menage a trois
Tommie Agee was out.
"This field, this game, is a part of our past. It reminds us of all that was once good, and it could be good again." TM
by Weeghman Park on Nov 19, 2008 3:20 PM CST up reply actions
The Whore's Soldiers
Tommie Agee was out.
"This field, this game, is a part of our past. It reminds us of all that was once good, and it could be good again." TM
by Weeghman Park on Nov 19, 2008 3:20 PM CST up reply actions
Five Hard Studs
"Hats for bats.....keep bats warm." - Pedro Cerrano
"Hey bartender, Jobu needs a refill !!!!!!!" - Eddie Harris
by willie mays hayes' gloves on Nov 19, 2008 3:21 PM CST up reply actions
The Long (and Hard) Riders
"I see I'm not the only one around here who can't hold his water." - Last words of the leaky pipe in the visiting team dugout, Dodger Stadium, October 4, 2008.
Shagandoah
Tommie Agee was out.
"This field, this game, is a part of our past. It reminds us of all that was once good, and it could be good again." TM
by Weeghman Park on Nov 19, 2008 3:24 PM CST up reply actions
Jizm
"Hats for bats.....keep bats warm." - Pedro Cerrano
"Hey bartender, Jobu needs a refill !!!!!!!" - Eddie Harris
by willie mays hayes' gloves on Nov 19, 2008 3:24 PM CST up reply actions
Lonesome Love
Tommie Agee was out.
"This field, this game, is a part of our past. It reminds us of all that was once good, and it could be good again." TM
by Weeghman Park on Nov 19, 2008 3:25 PM CST up reply actions
Ride the Big Divide
"Hats for bats.....keep bats warm." - Pedro Cerrano
"Hey bartender, Jobu needs a refill !!!!!!!" - Eddie Harris
by willie mays hayes' gloves on Nov 19, 2008 3:37 PM CST up reply actions
And its sequel, Boobstone.
"I see I'm not the only one around here who can't hold his water." - Last words of the leaky pipe in the visiting team dugout, Dodger Stadium, October 4, 2008.
Three the Hard Way (No change needed)
"Hats for bats.....keep bats warm." - Pedro Cerrano
"Hey bartender, Jobu needs a refill !!!!!!!" - Eddie Harris
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Big Jake (also no change needed)
"I see I'm not the only one around here who can't hold his water." - Last words of the leaky pipe in the visiting team dugout, Dodger Stadium, October 4, 2008.
Have Gun Will Travel
"Hats for bats.....keep bats warm." - Pedro Cerrano
"Hey bartender, Jobu needs a refill !!!!!!!" - Eddie Harris
by willie mays hayes' gloves on Nov 19, 2008 3:31 PM CST up reply actions
Westward Ho
Tommie Agee was out.
"This field, this game, is a part of our past. It reminds us of all that was once good, and it could be good again." TM
by Weeghman Park on Nov 19, 2008 3:31 PM CST up reply actions
Rawhard
"Hats for bats.....keep bats warm." - Pedro Cerrano
"Hey bartender, Jobu needs a refill !!!!!!!" - Eddie Harris
by willie mays hayes' gloves on Nov 19, 2008 3:32 PM CST up reply actions
Young Guns (and Barely Legal Babes)
"I see I'm not the only one around here who can't hold his water." - Last words of the leaky pipe in the visiting team dugout, Dodger Stadium, October 4, 2008.
Big Jim McLain
"Hats for bats.....keep bats warm." - Pedro Cerrano
"Hey bartender, Jobu needs a refill !!!!!!!" - Eddie Harris
by willie mays hayes' gloves on Nov 19, 2008 3:36 PM CST up reply actions
Jesse Jams
"I see I'm not the only one around here who can't hold his water." - Last words of the leaky pipe in the visiting team dugout, Dodger Stadium, October 4, 2008.
Pals of the Saddle (All male revue)
"Hats for bats.....keep bats warm." - Pedro Cerrano
"Hey bartender, Jobu needs a refill !!!!!!!" - Eddie Harris
by willie mays hayes' gloves on Nov 19, 2008 3:42 PM CST up reply actions
Three Texas Queers
"Hats for bats.....keep bats warm." - Pedro Cerrano
"Hey bartender, Jobu needs a refill !!!!!!!" - Eddie Harris
by willie mays hayes' gloves on Nov 19, 2008 3:43 PM CST up reply actions
California or Bust
Tommie Agee was out.
"This field, this game, is a part of our past. It reminds us of all that was once good, and it could be good again." TM
by Weeghman Park on Nov 19, 2008 3:29 PM CST up reply actions
K25 I think I accidentally flagged your post when I was trying to reply
sorry about that. Or else someone else did at the exact same time I was trying to reply.
Tommie Agee was out.
"This field, this game, is a part of our past. It reminds us of all that was once good, and it could be good again." TM
by Weeghman Park on Nov 19, 2008 3:30 PM CST up reply actions
It's only fitting.
I think Al is going to ban all of us on general principle.
"I see I'm not the only one around here who can't hold his water." - Last words of the leaky pipe in the visiting team dugout, Dodger Stadium, October 4, 2008.
This is the most fun I've had since the pig got in the yard and et the kid
Tommie Agee was out.
"This field, this game, is a part of our past. It reminds us of all that was once good, and it could be good again." TM
by Weeghman Park on Nov 19, 2008 3:33 PM CST up reply actions
One more for good measure - Stagecrotch
"Hats for bats.....keep bats warm." - Pedro Cerrano
"Hey bartender, Jobu needs a refill !!!!!!!" - Eddie Harris
by willie mays hayes' gloves on Nov 19, 2008 9:09 PM CST up reply actions
I hope it isn't DeRo.
That would mean that DeRo won’t be re-signed next year.
"I've never complained about it. I'm thankful to have a jersey." Mark DeRosa, 22 Aug 2007
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