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Think The MLB Blackouts Are Going Away? Think Again

This is what you might see next year if Bud doesn't act now!

Bud Selig said they had to go. The owners said they were going to redraw the ancient and arcane "territorial map" that had, among other things, six teams claiming parts of Iowa as a "home" territory and six others at home in Las Vegas -- neither place has an actual major league team within hundreds of miles.

But if you thought 2009 would bring you, as it was supposed to, the opportunity to watch any MLB game as long as you were willing to pay for it, Maury Brown at Biz of Baseball says the Powers That Be seem to be in no hurry:

MLB owners, yet again, tabled restructuring the local and regional television territories for the league at today's quarterly owners meetings in New York, and in doing so, leaves an arcane and convoluted system in place just before the MLB Network launches on January 1.

The commissioner’s office has proposed an adjustment that will involve clubs losing a territory or market if they do not broadcast within it. Currently, markets such as Las Vegas sees six clubs claiming the television territory, including the A’s, Giants, Padres, Angels, Dodgers, and Diamondbacks.

The issue will not be broached again until the next quarterly meetings by the owners in January.

Unless the league makes a provision, the ranks of those that will be faced with the "blackout blues" will grow exponentially as the new television network for the league reaches 50 million homes next season. MLB Network plans on broadcasting 26 games each season.

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The way I read this, you'll see blackouts worse than the Fox Saturday nonsense, unless the owners address this in January. I've written about this many times, and I'll keep doing it, not that they're going to listen to me, but maybe if enough people push this issue, they'll actually do something about it. It's real simple, as I wrote above: if you are willing to pay to watch a baseball game, you should be able to do so, whether you are in Chicago, Des Moines, Las Vegas, Kathmandu, or on Mars.

Fix it, Bud. Now. It's about 20 years overdue.

Hat tip to Rob at 6-4-2 for the Biz of Baseball link.

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First 2 days in a row!

Favorite Game - 'The Sandberg game" June 23, 1984

by Cub Fan Mike on Nov 23, 2008 8:48 AM CST reply actions   0 recs

Which streak will end first?

Will my 2 day streak of being “first” be broken or the Cubs 9 straight losses in post-season be broken first?

All streaks have to come to an end!

Favorite Game - 'The Sandberg game" June 23, 1984

by Cub Fan Mike on Nov 23, 2008 8:51 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Uber lame.

Evey Hammond: Vi Veri Veniversum Vivus Vici. V: By the power of truth, I, while living, have conquered the universe.

by dtpollitt on Nov 23, 2008 10:24 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Cut him some slack

They’re one Big1T1en team that’s looked worse than us in football . . . .

Facts are meaningless. You could use facts to prove anything that's even remotely true! --Homer J. Simpson

by Shanghai Badger on Nov 23, 2008 8:59 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah, that was ugly

Hell, Bucky was lucky to escape Cal Poly yesterday….

Facts are meaningless. You could use facts to prove anything that's even remotely true! --Homer J. Simpson

by Shanghai Badger on Nov 23, 2008 9:18 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

And what was the deal with that UW/MSU game?

Man SB, you guys had our fanny until your head coach took a page out of John L. Smith’s playbook and had a sideline meltdown. No way we should have won that game…

Go Green! Go White! GO STATE! (Now #12,966 on the Cubs season ticket waiting list- UP from 13,031...WHOO HOO!)

by Zeke on Nov 24, 2008 7:54 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

I know . . .

BB’s always been a bit of a smartass, but I think he learned a valuable lesson. I wouldn’t be surprised if his A.D. Barry Alvarez counselled him a bit after that one.

Facts are meaningless. You could use facts to prove anything that's even remotely true! --Homer J. Simpson

by Shanghai Badger on Nov 24, 2008 8:10 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah, counselled him with a boot to the backside

I always liked Barry. He certainly had our number while he was head coach.

Go Green! Go White! GO STATE! (Now #12,966 on the Cubs season ticket waiting list- UP from 13,031...WHOO HOO!)

by Zeke on Nov 24, 2008 8:15 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

It's too bad a boycott would never work

because that would be the only think these knuckleheads would understand. Of course the current economic situation could cause them to lose a lot of customers this year. Some of these customers might be more apt to cough up the dough if they could see 100% of the games they want to see.

Comcast here in Nashville is adding the MLB network on December 1. I guess it will be interesting to see what they cover. I may have to consider changing to Directv this year, as we are blacked out for Reds and Braves games here. Funny thing is, comcast doesn’t carry very many of the Reds or Braves games. So, most of the Cubs games against the Braves and the Reds get blacked out with no local Reds or Braves station to watch. Direct does carry these channels so it may be time to switch.

by LT on Nov 23, 2008 9:15 AM CST reply actions   0 recs

A boycott per se won't work.

But in these economic times, the fact that people can’t get the games they want might be the tipping point of NOT subscribing. This should be a time where any business should be doing everything it can to keep customers, not chase them away.

MLB owners really can be blindingly stupid.

"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al on Nov 23, 2008 11:32 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

The issue is...

… as you clearly state it, that the territorial restrictions are there so teams can broadcast — key word, broadcast, meaning on an over the air channel — games into regions beyond their primary city.

This used to happen all the time in the 1970’s — the Cubs had a TV network stretching into Iowa, Wisconsin, Missouri, Indiana and Michigan.

But as you correctly point out, the local cable outlets don’t carry the games. Neither do the broadcast channels — those “networks” are long gone. But the outdated policy still “protects” them.

From what, I cannot figure out.

"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al on Nov 23, 2008 11:52 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

I live in Buffalo

and currently am blacked out from watching Cleveland, Pittsburgh, Mets and Yankees’ games (the last two being no problem because I get their local feeds). But I shell out almost $200 every year for MLB extra innings and when the Cubs aren’t on WGN I’d like to be able to watch them play the Pirates without driving almost 400 miles. Rediculous! The sad part is, Toronto is less than 90 miles away and apparently showing their games is no problem-but then again who really cares?

"Yes, dear. You're right. I'm sorry." -Bob Brenly

by ambrosiadreams on Nov 23, 2008 9:56 AM CST reply actions   0 recs

It used to be said...

That baseball was too strong to kill, even for the morons that run it and play it.

With more entertainment options than ever, a shattered economy and now two solid generations of people who have never seen a day World Series game, I don’t think that is true.

I used to wonder if the Cubs would win a World Series in my lifetime.

Now I wonder if the Cubs will win another World Series in baseball’s lifetime.

The worst beer I had was pretty good.

by Worf on Nov 23, 2008 10:20 AM CST reply actions   0 recs

+1

"The object of a ball game for the fan is not to be entertained. It is to win." - Max Lapides

by CaliCub on Nov 23, 2008 6:00 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

This is probably the thing I cannot stand most about MLB.

It represents nothing more than total close-mindedness, greed, and just how stupid that son of a bitch Selig really is.

Dan

Evey Hammond: Vi Veri Veniversum Vivus Vici. V: By the power of truth, I, while living, have conquered the universe.

by dtpollitt on Nov 23, 2008 10:27 AM CST reply actions   0 recs

I live in Iowa

I live near the Quad-Cities and subscribe to MLB.tv. I believe I can’t watch the Brewers, Twins, Royals, or Cardinals (not that I would want to watch the Cards anyway). But the cable tv here doesn’t show any Brewers, Twins, or Royals at all. As for the Cards, the Cards fans only get to see their team on the Cards KGCW channel 11 which is a sister network of a CW channel we get here. But we don’t get FSN midwest, which is the main network the Cards play on. Pretty soon it seems like every team in both Central divisions will be blacked out just because.

Austin Kakert

by #1 iowan cubs fan on Nov 23, 2008 10:34 AM CST reply actions   0 recs

This is an excellent summary of the problem.

"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al on Nov 23, 2008 11:34 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Remember Big Z's no-hitter?

I was so PO’d when I couldn’t watch Big Z throw a no-hitter live because there was an ESPN Sunday Night game going on at the same time. I’m so glad WGN came to their senses and re-broadcasted the game on the first Friday after the no-hit game.

Austin Kakert

by #1 iowan cubs fan on Nov 23, 2008 10:38 AM CST reply actions   0 recs

The no-hitter game really doesn't count...

…. because that was an extraordinary circumstance. Normally the game that day would have been on WGN and televised nationally. That really isn’t the issue here, although if MLB had been enlightened they could have at least offered it online for, say, a $5 one-time fee. Many thousands of Cubs fans would have gladly paid.

"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al on Nov 23, 2008 11:35 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

I watched that game online live

It was strange. I had mlbtv.com but could not get it thru the normal page. But I went to Cubs.com and pulled up the game and it allowed me to watch it there.

by LT on Nov 23, 2008 11:41 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

That's weird.

But I’m glad you got to see it.

"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al on Nov 23, 2008 11:50 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

I saw live it on MLB.TV.

"I've never complained about it. I'm thankful to have a jersey." Mark DeRosa, 22 Aug 2007

by DeRoMyHero on Nov 23, 2008 1:47 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Speaking of that game...

A friend of mine, who knows some of the inner-workings of WGN, told me that the Chicago-only broadcast that night came so, so close to not happening at all, for a coupla reasons from what he told me: MLB/ESPN made their decision to allow it really late, and then they had to scramble to get all the tech people & equipment in place to broadcast at all.

Not sure if this affected the Houston broadcast the same way… but could you imagine the Cubs fans outrage if the only TV evidence of this game were the Astros FSN broadcast… or worse yet… no TV broadcast at all.

by MillsChC on Nov 24, 2008 4:16 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

I live in Las Vegas....

….and it’s a bit of a muddle with regards to baseball coverage. We of course get WGN. We might get 2 Padres games a week, and a Dodger game once in a great while. In almost 12 years here I’ve never seen a regional telecast for the A’s, Giants, Diamondbacks or Mariners.

OT for Al or anyone: The Dodgers are moving their AAA franchise/rehab/intensive care/MASH unit back to Albuquerque this spring and Las Vegas is getting the Blue Jays AAA affiliate. Any suggestions for good sites for Jays information? Let me know. Thanks.

by roost66 on Nov 23, 2008 10:45 AM CST reply actions   0 recs

what a shitty stupid concept

sorry for the language

"Just win tonight" - derv

by derv on Nov 23, 2008 10:57 AM CST reply actions   0 recs

Here's some Wiki info on the new TV network...

…and it looks like Harold Reynolds is going to be a primary analyst! This makes me very happy, as I miss Harold from his ESPN days. Smart guy.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MLB_Network

Dan

Evey Hammond: Vi Veri Veniversum Vivus Vici. V: By the power of truth, I, while living, have conquered the universe.

by dtpollitt on Nov 23, 2008 11:17 AM CST reply actions   0 recs

It does sound like MLB Network chose some pretty good broadcast people...

… Matt Vasgersian notwithstanding.

But maybe they’ll black you out anyway, just because they can.

"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al on Nov 23, 2008 11:36 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

The MLB Tonight program sounds interesting...

A show that will start at 5pm and last until the final game for the night is over….. with live look-ins throughout the night. I wonder how much access they’ll really give, if they think this might keep people from getting Extra Innings.

The show that ESPNNEWS does on Saturday afternoons with college football sounds kinda similar.

by MillsChC on Nov 24, 2008 4:22 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Live look-ins...

…. aren’t the same as being able to watch an entire game, or flip between games yourself if you want to as you can via EI.

If it cannibalizes some EI business, they once again are shooting themselves in the foot.

"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al on Nov 24, 2008 4:30 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

OT

G n R Chinese Democracy out today (Sunday..weird). Goin to pick mine up now!

Dan

Evey Hammond: Vi Veri Veniversum Vivus Vici. V: By the power of truth, I, while living, have conquered the universe.

by dtpollitt on Nov 23, 2008 11:21 AM CST reply actions   0 recs

Are you going to get your...

free Dr. Pepper too?

"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al on Nov 23, 2008 11:37 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

oh no

i listened to the CD Thursday night on myspace for free and i gotta say it sucks. Ha i was so disappointed. hopefully you will like it more than i.

by Glacier on Nov 23, 2008 2:04 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Oh, my gosh! Just think what will happen to Teams' revenues if citizens of Iowa

and Las Vegas had multiple choices for viewing? If it happens there then the domino effect would surely bring it to places like NYC, Boston, Chicago—think of the ramifications! People paying to choose the games that they prefer to view—stop the insanity!

Is any of this really surprising from a league that still uses its B.S. unwarranted anti-trust exemption to keep teams and owners where they want them to be—to prevent competition—to prevent choice.

In the end, if fans are upset about it then show it by not watching their B.S. network and not subscribing to their B.S. internet game service. As long as enough people pay enough for this gerrymandered product to make it profitable then MLB will keep doing it this way.

If they didn’t have the anti-trust exemption they’d have to be more responsive to consumers.

by DudeVf11 on Nov 23, 2008 11:39 AM CST reply actions   0 recs

yea

but what are pople outside of chicago suppose to do? just not watch baseball game? yeah right. sadly i will continue to drop over $200 to watch cubs games regardless if i get them all or not

by Glacier on Nov 23, 2008 2:05 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

It's like...

Arthur and [dollar] Bill Wirtz died (which they both did), went to hell (again, which they both did) and were reincarnated as MLB officials making this utterly stupid decision.

It’s amazing that right here in our own town we have the completely opposite views with 2 major league organizations. The Cubs who televised nearly every game since the dawn of time and now IMHO have more fans than ANY MLB team, and the Blackhawks who screwed nearly 2 complete generations of fans and completely alienated their fan base until recently.

What a pure case example of how TV WORKS (e.g. the Cubs)! And how the lack of TV DOESN’T work (e.g. the Blackhawks)!

Sweet Lou for Mayor in '11.

by blackhawk24 on Nov 23, 2008 12:31 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

Al....

what can we do to help address this problem. since i dont live in Chicago this is something that affects me greatly. is there anyone we can email and bitch too or anything?

by Glacier on Nov 23, 2008 2:03 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

Call or email the MLB offices...

… but don’t expect to get much sympathy.

"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al on Nov 23, 2008 2:32 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Is the MLB Network actually going to be on TV....

Or is it a mythic creature like the NFL network, which no one seems to have (at least on the east coast)

Okay, just so I understand it... in your wildest fantasy, you are in hell. And you are co-running a bed and breakfast with the devil.

by bren on Nov 23, 2008 3:31 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

I have the NFL Network...

… both standard def and HD.

MLB Network debuts on January 1. If you are with one of the major cable companies, you should get it, or if you have DirecTV.

"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al on Nov 23, 2008 3:54 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

well I got Time Warner

and no nfl network for us

and why wouldnt they go with “MLBTV” its perfect, rolls right of the tongue

Okay, just so I understand it... in your wildest fantasy, you are in hell. And you are co-running a bed and breakfast with the devil.

by bren on Nov 23, 2008 4:15 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Because that would make too much sense.

And also because their online service is already called MLB.TV.

"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al on Nov 23, 2008 4:45 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Hey, I have a stranger problem.

I’m a hockey fan. I buy the Center Ice Package. Time Warner Cable, nationwide carries the NHL Network. The league says so. But the network is not carried on Time Warner San Diego, and nobody at the local level will respond to my questions.

“Hockey Night In Canada,” from CBC — is now on the NHL Net as of this year. It used to be on the “Center Ice” Package, every game was featured, plus pre and post game shows. You’d see up to 4 HNIC games on some given weekends. There will be a CBC/HNIC game on the current package — but not all of them, and not every Saturday.

Saturday, 11-22 was especially frustrating. CI carried 2 games of HNIC — but not the one I really wanted to see, the Blackhawks/Leafs. CI didn’t offer the Comcast /Chicago feed — as many times, it will show both home/away feeds — so, I was screwed out of that great game.

And for no freakin’ reason. I paid for the CI package, and didn’t get what I should have seen — but, I should have seen it, anyway — because, after all — The NHL proudly says it’s network is on Time Warner Cable!

Well, not really.

But this weekend, TWC/SD did add the Big 10 Network. Go figure. I guess all the midwestern transplants were thrilled, especially the 2 people in this market watching Illinois-Northwestern.

by San Diego Smooth Jazz Man on Nov 23, 2008 6:58 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Same for Charter...

no NFL Network on my cable box either.

by MillsChC on Nov 24, 2008 4:27 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

REMEMBER THE 2003 PLAYOFFS....

Well of course most of us would like to forget them..But if you lived in Northern Michigan the only games you saw were on the FOX family chanl ….Go Figure …Unless of course you lived in a City that had Cable TV then you could get FOX …..

by cubs north on Nov 23, 2008 4:36 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

What about a staggered set of Sat games (like NFL Sunday)

Start 7 games at 1pmET/10amPT and 8 games at 4pmET/1pmPT and make them all available through your cable or satellite provider. Then have the Dodgers and Angels (in my case) be the featured game on the main Fox affiliate. And split the pot for the Saturday games thirty ways.

"The object of a ball game for the fan is not to be entertained. It is to win." - Max Lapides

by CaliCub on Nov 23, 2008 5:59 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

No, that wouldn't work.

unless ALL the games were on MLB-TV. You’d have the Fox over-the-air network completely saturated with baseball — which markets would get which games? Who decides? What if a local affiliate says — screw this, I can make more money with infomercials? Then, a market (probably a secondary market )might be without a game.

The time zone problem is also a concern. Depending on the time of day — the Fox net would be supplying baseball to some markets and alternate programming to others?

The logistics of what you suggest only seems possible on a cable net dedicated to one particular sport, and even then you’d have to split it — 30 ways. This is a staggering task. One game per market? What about those midwestern cities, which have been discusssed — where a multiple-team fan base exists. Let’s use Springfield, Illinois. Cubs? White Sox? Cardinals? Two games? The complexity of what you describe is just as bad as what’s in place now, but its’ 100x harder.

The NFL is different because there’s only one game, per team, a week. A over-the-air net can disrupt its’ programming for games that will always deliver good ratings, whether the teams featured are the Colts v Packers or Lions v. Seahawks. Baseball has too many games to allow for every one to be a ratings winner.

The simplest idea is to let every fan see any game, if you pay for it. If you buy the Extra Innings Package — you get it all. If you want a game On Demand, like a PPV movie — you order it, and charge it to your cable/satellite bill.

I guess that’s too simple for the bean counters at MLB to figure this out.

What I still cannot understand is that 4-team cluster on the Territorial map in the middle of East Nowhere, Nevada. I’ve posed this question almost every time this map is posted. I have no answer. Can anybody give me a reason why Area 51 is claimed to be ‘home territory’ by Arizona, Oakland, the Giants and Padres? And why did the Dodgers and Angels drop out of this sector? All six teams claim southern Nevada…
……except for this patch of barren, Nevada desert………..

by San Diego Smooth Jazz Man on Nov 23, 2008 6:41 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

Maybe the aliens told them they had to drop out.

The consolation prize was the Las Vegas Triple-A affiliation, which the Dodgers got, in exchange for their silence about Area 51.

Well, that makes about as much sense as the blackout policy, doesn’t it?

"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al on Nov 23, 2008 7:55 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

....and we got stuck with

the team name 51’s for the AAA Dodgers….and probably the most ridiculous looking mascot of all time-Cosmo The Alien.

by roost66 on Nov 23, 2008 9:04 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah, if they're going to use a Cosmo

It should be the Assman.

Facts are meaningless. You could use facts to prove anything that's even remotely true! --Homer J. Simpson

by Shanghai Badger on Nov 23, 2008 9:06 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Hmm. Cosmo or Big Lug? Could be a close race for the lamer of the mascots...

http://www.lansinglugnuts.com/fan_action/wallpaper/64020x20480/biglug.jpg

It’s like Barney and a Hip Hop artist had a bastard child…

…and at one time, the Lugnuts had a sidekick for Big Lug- “Ratchet”. Really. It was a “she” and had a bow on it’s cap. Extremely lame. Nicknamed Rat-s**t by the locals. Mercifully retired when the young lady playing Ratchet was impregnated by the young man playing Big Lug. (off the field fortunately)

True story.

…Only in minor league ball.

Bull Durham was more on the mark that people give that movie credit for…

 

Go Green! Go White! GO STATE! (Now #12,966 on the Cubs season ticket waiting list- UP from 13,031...WHOO HOO!)

by Zeke on Nov 24, 2008 8:07 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

even more sad is...

…our governor here in Iowa fondly refers to himself as “the big lug.”

"Pounding sand since 1982...."

by cubswynn on Nov 24, 2008 8:42 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Hmm. Sounds like copyright infringment to me!

Go Green! Go White! GO STATE! (Now #12,966 on the Cubs season ticket waiting list- UP from 13,031...WHOO HOO!)

by Zeke on Nov 24, 2008 8:46 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Aliens From Canada

The Blue Jays will be the new parent club of the 51’s in 2009. It’s a long way from Toronto to Las Vegas. The Dodgers are going back to Albuquerque being their top farm club next season. That club will keep the Isotopes nickname and not change it to Dukes, which was the nickname of the Dodgers AAA club there from 1972-2000.

"The big possum walks late." - Harry Caray

by memphiscub on Nov 24, 2008 10:57 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

OK, this is too weird. So the Blue Jays will have BOTH Cosmo and Big Lug as minor league mascots?

Truth is stranger than fiction. Maybe they should work out a mascot exchange program for a few weeks in the summer. Cosmo to Lansing and Big Lug to Las Vegas.

On second thought…

Go Green! Go White! GO STATE! (Now #12,966 on the Cubs season ticket waiting list- UP from 13,031...WHOO HOO!)

by Zeke on Nov 24, 2008 11:42 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Sorry to be picky

Bud Selig said they had to go. The owners said they were going to redraw the ancient and arcane “territorial map” that had, among other things, six teams claiming parts of Iowa as a “home” territory and six others at home in Las Vegas — neither place has an actual major league team within hundreds of miles.

Al, Iowa has a bunch of major league teams within hundreds of miles. Maybe that is part of the problem. The Twins and Royals are an hour from the border. The Cardinals a little more. The Brewers, Sox, and Cubs right down the road too. We folks out here in the provinces have lots of baseball options. I live in Eastern Iowa, Cubs territory. I know Mayor Daley loves me coming over and spending my discretionary dollars to prop up his corrupt regime.

by Nibbles on Nov 23, 2008 10:10 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

OK, "hundreds of miles" was a little over the top, maybe.

But the point is, unlike those of us who live in Chicago, for someone like you who lives in Iowa, it’s an outing to come to a baseball game, several hours driving each way, hotels, etc. That sort of spending has nothing to do with being able to watch the games on TV.

I repeat: it’s so simple. If you are willing to pay to watch a game on TV, you should be able to, no matter what your location.

MLB could learn a lesson from the Blackhawks, who lost fans for decades because of their outdated TV policy — look at the huge amount of goodwill they got when they decided to put all their games on TV, a very simple concept.

TV promotes your product. To block people from seeing it makes your customers angry. Why would you want to do that?

"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al on Nov 24, 2008 4:00 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

AL, have you ever considered being Baseball Commissioner?

Naw, you make WAY too much sense for that to ever happen.

Go Green! Go White! GO STATE! (Now #12,966 on the Cubs season ticket waiting list- UP from 13,031...WHOO HOO!)

by Zeke on Nov 24, 2008 8:09 AM CST reply actions   0 recs

Just give me one day as commissioner...

… as long as any decisions I make that day would be permanent. It’d be a busy day, but I’d fix a whole bunch of stuff. This would be first on the list.

"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al on Nov 24, 2008 8:21 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Well, you have my vote for what it's worth...

…and if not you, then Bob Costas…

Go Green! Go White! GO STATE! (Now #12,966 on the Cubs season ticket waiting list- UP from 13,031...WHOO HOO!)

by Zeke on Nov 24, 2008 8:25 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

On another topic...

… I see in your signature that you have moved up 65 spaces on the season ticket waiting list… this implies there have been 65 season ticket cancellations since the end of the season.

Anyone else have a similar report on moving up on the list?

"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al on Nov 24, 2008 8:39 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

I was surprised I saw ANY movement

Not that I expect to ever live long enough to actually GET season tickets. It would be a great incentive to retire and move out of Michigan though…

…assuming the state just doesn’t shut down for good before that time.

Go Green! Go White! GO STATE! (Now #12,966 on the Cubs season ticket waiting list- UP from 13,031...WHOO HOO!)

by Zeke on Nov 24, 2008 8:43 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

I haven't checked my place

in about a year, so this inspired me to take a look at my lack of progress. I signed up about 3 yrs ago, and it seems that the last time I checked, I was around the 65k mark. The problem is that today I am at 76973 which doesn’t make any sense. Maybe my memory is bad, but I am pretty certain I have moved back even further. Could that even be possible? Not that it is going to matter. I am 30 yrs old. At this rate my great grandchildren might be lucky enough to see these tickets in their lifetime, lol.

by love the ivy on Nov 24, 2008 9:05 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Explain this to me

Here in DSM we obviously get WGN, so half the games are on TV regardless. However Mediacom (our only cable option) has chosen to pick up FSN KC, rather than Comcast. So we get to watch all those awesome Royals v. Rangers games.

"Pounding sand since 1982...."

by cubswynn on Nov 24, 2008 8:47 AM CST reply actions   0 recs

For the two or three Royals fans in Des Moines, right?

"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al on Nov 24, 2008 9:24 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Haha exactly

Did I mention Mediacom is the same company that refused to pick up The Big Ten Network for a year and half. Oh yeah by the way, the University of Iowa is a freaking Big Ten school!!! Ugh.

"Pounding sand since 1982...."

by cubswynn on Nov 24, 2008 9:52 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Comcast & the BTN had a feud for about that long, too.

"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al on Nov 24, 2008 10:14 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

At least there you can choose another company

Time Warner I believe? For whatever reason, our only cable option is Mediacom. I suppose we always have the options of the dish companies, however when your apartment faces the wrong direction, you are stuck with Mediacom. I could bitch about Mediacom all day long haha.

"Pounding sand since 1982...."

by cubswynn on Nov 24, 2008 10:41 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

RCN is the other choice here.

I’ve heard a lot of bad stuff about Mediacom. My sympathies.

"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al on Nov 24, 2008 1:12 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

mediacom

sucks. man do i hate that company

by Glacier on Nov 25, 2008 11:47 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

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