if its so crazy then why even post about it. But i don’t understand you not wanting the team to improve with Peavy. Even if it takes 2 months, who cares? It’s not like it’s wearing and tearing on you. It’s baseball.

you can throw that in as well

Until A deal is announced that Peavy is headed — somewhere…to say that the Cubs are no longer after him — and he isn’t coming to Chicago…well, that’s just too premature.

I don’t care what Lou mumbles in a press conference. Lou doesn’t make the deals. This story could play out all winter.

Of course…unless….Deep Goat…..has proclaimed it so!!

It won’t happen because
1. We don’t have the payroll to afford Peavy and legit lefty hitter. (I think this payroll thing is bull, but I also understand the economic issues and ownership questions)
2. We don’t have the prospects to afford Peavy and I don’t know if we can find the third team we need.
3. This the Brian Roberts all over again.

Cubs get Peavy and Giles.

Padres get 49% ownership in the Cubs and the naming rights to Wrigley Field.

for anyone who wants press credentials at a ML ballpark.

THAT’S what I don’t get — why is Al surprised? Maybe because he writes for the same paper as one of the more credible local sports reporters (Bruce Miles).

… but rather $11M. That may make things a tad different.

I still think Hendry should do everything he can to land Peavy, within reason (financially). I doubt Giles will go anywhere. I found it odd, though, that the Padres were looking to trim payroll, but then exercised Giles’ option?

… from the article, I interpreted that:

(1) Marquis and Giles is a swap – almost identical salary.
(2) Marshall, Cedeno, Vitters and Pie-or-Ascanio-or-Fontenot.

For (1), that sounds like a good swap. If we land Peavy, we don’t need Marquis as a #5 anymore, and we get a lefty RF basically for free (without having to push Marquis).

For (2) Marshall no longer has a spot on the team, because Hill (who is out of options and needs to make the major league club or be traded) and Cotts will fight for the long lefty role. Cedeno can be replaced. Pie is also out of options and no longer has a spot if RJ/Pie platoon center. Ascanio has competition anyways for middle relief. LBR should be protected.

Happy turkey to you Al and yours and everyone at BCB.

I’m sure I’m not the only one who counts BCB as something to be thankful for.

When did this thing calling the night before Thanksgiving Black Wednesday start?

I remember when I was young going out with frjends the night before especially during the college years back in the late 80s but never a name for it.

I might just be feeling punchy as I have been up til now getting some of dinner together for tomorrow for now 37 people.

any trade that overwhelms Hendry is on the table, for the right price and obviously in our favor. So no, a trade like this is not going away and still may be in the Hendry listening stage. I’ve heard him say he will listen to any offer. If this is the offer, he listens. Will he make it happen? No. As I said in another post, we hold out for the right left handed bat and if it doesn’t happen, wait until the trade deadline to see who’s available.

just played around a bit with the search function here. Did a search on “roberts” from 10/0107 to 3/31/08, roughly the offseason. Also did a search on “peavy” from 10/01/08 to 11/27/08, i.e. roughly two months into this offseason to date. Here’s what I got:

                        Roberts …… Peavy
Stories ………….. 17………… 6
FanPosts ………. 97 ………. 45
Comments ….. 2189 …… 1097

Discount the numbers a little bit to take into account any references to Dave Roberts, Oral Roberts, Roberts Rules of Order and of course, Mr. Roberts, but still, you get the idea. One third into the offseason, and Peavy is on track to easily surpass Roberts record-setting rumor mill of last year.

Theriot SS ($450K)
Fukudome CF ($12M)
DLee 1B ($13M)
Ramirez 3B ($15.65M)
Soriano LF ($16M)
Giles RF ($9M)
Soto C (450K)
DeRosa 2B ($5.5M)
SP: Z ($17.75M), Dempster ($12M), Lilly ($12M), Harden ($7M), Peavy ($8M)
RP: Gregg ($4.0M), Marmol ($450K), Gaudin ($2.5), Samardzija ($2M), Cotts ($1.5M), Guzman ($500K), LEFTY ($3M)

Bench: Johnson ($2M) (Middle IF ($2M), Middle IF ($400K), K Hill ($450K), Hoffpauir (400K) equals $135M

This fits for I believe the Cubs have a $136-140M budget ceiling leaving $5M to use for a mid season acquisition.

Traded away: Marquis ($9M), Cedeno (500K), Fontenot ($500), Pie ($500K), Marshall ($500K) , Ascanio ($450K), Vitters traded away is $11M

In this scenerio Cubs could do well and sign a Cintron and Mark Loretta, Counsell, even old Grudz or Vizquel. Loretta made $2.75M last year and probably could be signed for that amount this year. Cintron made the league minimum in Baltimore and probably could be $1.5M, Grudz made $4M as a starter at 38 years old and Counsell made $3M

This would be a veteran team outside of Hoffpauir.

I am so tired of everyone not wanting to trade Vitters. Peavy is a good pitcher, Vitters is a prospect who has done nothing. I am not saying he can’t be but honestly, to get a player the caliber of Jake Peavy and having a minor leaguer hold it up seems outrageous to me.