…but this also seems like misinformation. When was the last time a GM gave the public play-by-play of a trade that was about to happen?

Instead, I think that the Cubs will use this to leverage whichever free agents they’re after (or trades they’re after) and I think this might get some other team (Yankees) to commit to more than they want to because they’re feeling like Peavy might be slipping away.

is this even news?? might have found a 3rd team. I might win the lottery saturday night. mites grow on chicken’s……..!! we might win back to back world series. some day we might have to build a new stadium. might might might

and I don’t remember him always being this chatty about potential trades. It seems like it wouldn’t be in his best interests to go about it this way.

then again maybe he didn’t, or maybe he did. Hmmm, maybe he found a 4th team too. There is nothing new here.

Please leave this story alone. My guess is that Towers backed himself in a corner and is now trying to save face because with the Dempster signing Hendry isn’t interested unless Towers is giving Peavy away.

In the future, please don’t copy/paste material from other sites without doing this. That’s a copyright violation and not acceptable here.

Also, it would have helped if you had added some of your own thoughts to this post — there’s nothing original here.

i know lou said we dont need him but if you can get Jake Peavy on a discount u do it.. he is that good.. I guess i would give up vitters in a deal to get him as rough as that sounds… i really like vitters too….

is that he has to propose trading one (or more) Cubs players to the third team for the player he wants without necessarily knowing that the Cubs would be willing to give that player up for Peavy. That is mighty presumptuous of him.

Example: KT proposes trading Mark DeRosa from the Cubs to the Twins for Nick Blackburn. The Dads would then get Blackburn, Pie, Cedeño/Fontenot, and possibly a fourth player (Vitters? Marshall?). That’s great for KT, and it gets the Twins the 3B they need. However, the Cubs might not be willing to give up DeRo for Peavy — especially if they give up Fontenot and don’t get salary relief on Marquis.

Until I read that Jim Hendry is looking for a third team I will believe that Peavy is not coming to the Cubs.

Peavy will be a Cub and then I will close for Cubs.

—one of them — one of many — that Peavy will eventually become a Cub. The Padres, no matter what’s said in public — want Peavy off the payroll. He wll not be their opening day starter.

Towers is the only guy with intellegence in the organization — he’s surrounded by a ship o’ fools, including the owner, John Moores — launched the USS FIre Sale with his divorce. However, Towers is following orders. Launching Peavy is Job 2. (Releasing Hoffman was #1)

Many individuals on this site will be surprised in the manner that Peavy becomes a Cub. It will not be conventional. It will be strange. It will take time.

We think the Cubs have done business in a strange matter in their history — it takes a back seat to the local franchise, which is in one of the weirdest situations in team history..

You all want to deal in logic, I understand — but what ever is going to happen will be somewhat illogical, especially for the Padres — and their fans.

This team has had a bizarre history, starting with the world’s worst uniforms…

There’s last-minute sale of the team to Ray Kroc, keeping it from moving to DC.

And, who in this market forgets the Tom Werner Fire sale of the early 90s.

Lest we not forget Rosanne’s version of the National Anthem in the 80s….leading to a condemnation of her and the team.

Sure, the Pads have never had a College Of Coaches — but you never know….

Unfortunately, the few bright spots (the only bright spots) in the team’s history — have come at our expense.

And that, still — remains a sore spot….

Having eaten too much turkey, and having to collapse after cleaning the kitchen, I’m just wondering how much Frank Wren has to do with this…

Knowns:
1. John Schuerholtz had an ironclad policy against giving NTCs out. He never gave one to Glavine, Smoltz, Maddux, or Chipper. So far, Wren seems to be adhering to this policy.
2. Schuerholtz also had a rule against giving pitchers contracts of longer than three years, though he bent the rule for Maddux and in the trade for Hampton. It is not yet known whether or not Wren will abide by this rule or for whom he might make an exception.
3. Wren has stated that he hopes to acquire two “top-flight” starting pitchers this winter. He excluded Smoltz, Glavine, and Hampton from the “top-flight” definition, though he did not rule out signing any of them in addition to his two new pitchers.
4. Peavy has a NTC.

Could the Braves actually be hoping that Peavy lands with the Cubs? Wren knows that the Cubs can’t afford a Z/Peavy/Demp/Harden/Lilly/Marquis rotation. Wren might feel that his best chance to acquire a SP would be a trade with the Cubs. The Braves don’t have a LHB power bat in the OF, but they would possibly trade one of (Escobar, Johnson) and LHB Brandon Jones (good hitter, doubles power, not a CF) or a prospect or two for Lilly or Harden. They might also consider Marquis — Mazzone isn’t there any more — if the Cubs throw in $3M and they don’t get A.J. or Lowe.

This could help the Cubs. Escobar would be an upgrade at SS, though he isn’t an ideal leadoff hitter. Johnson is a LHB who can play 2B or LF (and could probably handle RF). He also isn’t an ideal leadoff or middle-of-the-order bat, but he fits the “athletic” label. Brandon Jones is a line-drive hitter that doesn’t have LF power or a CF glove; he has a little power and might be able to handle RF. The Cubs could also get a prospect or two and flip them as needed, or even ask for Gonzalez or Soriano. If they get Johnson, they can either move DeRo (or KJ) to RF or trade DeRo for a RF bat.

Wren knows that he has a bunch of young pitchers on the doorstep, at least one of whom looks like ace material (Hanson). What he needs are pitchers to bridge the gap until the youngsters arrive. Lilly has two years left, Marquis has one, and Harden has one. He can let them walk and collect the draft picks just as his youngsters will be ready.

Just a thought. I think that SDSJ is right about KT having almost no choice but to trade Peavy to the Cubs; the question is how much will the price fall now that he has overplayed his hand.

i would also do lilly for escobar plus a prospect… i think if we get peavy then we are in a sick position to deal from strength… Does Z have a NTC?

The Twins have a lot of young pitching to trade from Scott Baker quality to Boof Bonser not-so-quality. Plus, they have at least one extra OF to trade, recent rumors having Delmon Young on the block. Meanwhile, the Twins need infielders. What’s interesting about trying to match up the Twins, Padres, and Cubs is that there are a lot pieces that could go in multiple directions.

Filling in the Twins need at 3B could be Mark DeRosa, but it could also be Kevin Kouzmanoff.

Ronny Cedeno could go help the Padres’ middle IF, but he could also go help the Twins’ middle IF.

Josh Vitters has been rumored to be on the Padres’ receiving end, but he might make more sense for the Twins who have no long-term 3B answer

The Cubs could look to add Brian Giles or they could look to add Jason Kubel.

Here’s one possible trade

Padres get Delmon Young, Felix Pie, Sean Marshall, Nick Blackburn, Boof Bonser
Twins get Mark DeRosa, Josh Vitters, Ronny Cedeno, Jason Marquis
Cubs get Jake Peavy, Brian Giles; then sign Rafael Furcal

The Padres get Delmon Young as a centerpiece in their trade of Peavy, plus three pitchers with potential but also a lot of question marks. They have a nice, inexpensive OF of Young-Pie-Gerut (with questions still about what to do with Headley/Kouzmanoff).

The Twins get both a short- and long-term answer at 3B, plus a SS who fits the mold of what they like for middle IF.

The Cubs run out a lineup with a lot more lefty balance, that could look something like this:
Furcal SS
Fontenot/Theriot 2B
DLee 1B
Ramirez 3B
Soriano LF
Giles RF
Soto C
Fukudome CF

or, perhaps this:

Padres get Josh Vitters, Felix Pie, Ryan Theriot, Sean Marshall, Nick Blackburn, Boof Bonser
Twins get Kevin Kouzmanoff, Ronny Cedeno, Michael Wuertz, Jason Marquis
Cubs get Jake Peavy, Khalil Greene, Jason Kubel