Without C.C, who will now challenge the Cubs in the Central
by CubFreak on Dec 10, 2008 2:18 PM CST
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Now that C.C. has A-GREED! to wear the Yankee pinstrips over the lager-strips of Milwaukee, are the Brewers just another average team in the Central?
Adam McCalvy of MLB.com wrote:
GM Melvin confirmed that the Brewers made a five-year offer to Sabathia for about $100 million, and said he had "considered" adding a sixth year to the offer. The Brewers never formally made that offer, but on Tuesday were trying to set up another meeting with Sabathia's representatives.
""We were happy for CC because that's a pretty good deal, and the Yankees got themselves a pretty good pitcher. We had a good time with CC during the summer. He brought a lot of fun to our organization and our city, and that's the way we feel about it."
Well Cubs fans feel even better. Without C.C. and possibly with out Sheets as well, it will be tough for the Brew Crew to make the playoffs. I know winning the Series is the ultimate goal, but we gotta win the divison first.
So with saying that, who do you think will make a serious run at the Cubs for the Central Crown? Or will the Cubs just run away with it?
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Don't count out the Brewers
It’s December 10. They have tradeable pieces yet, and could go out and get cheaper pitching help.
The Cubs are likely to have the best rotation in the division, if not the league, but the Brewers could easily have a better lineup.
Cliches become cliches because they are true — still have to play the games.
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by Shanghai Badger on Dec 10, 2008 2:25 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Presuming Sheets leaves...
… and I think he will, the Crew could trade Prince Fielder to the AL for pitching help, and put Braun at 1B and Mat Ganel in LF (or vice versa).
"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx
by Al on Dec 10, 2008 3:16 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
If I am not mistaken.The Brewers were rumored
The Brewers were rumored to be interested in trading Fielder for Matt Cain. That would benefit both sides greatly.
by dakoose on Dec 10, 2008 3:18 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, it probably would.
"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx
by Al on Dec 10, 2008 3:19 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
The problem with trading Prince
is he is their only left handed power source.
The Brew crew have the same issue as the Cubs, they are right handed dominant.
A lack of left handed hitting and their lack of walks are the two biggest issues with the Brewers offense.
Hey, it's a new century!
by cowsarecool220 on Dec 10, 2008 3:28 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Now that C.C. is gone & trading Prince
The Brewers can save thousands on fabric alone
"Loyal? I'm the most loyal player money can buy."
- Dodgers, Astros, Brewers, A's & Angels pitcher Don Sutton
by CubFreak on Dec 10, 2008 3:25 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Ummmm..... no
Cubs 3rd in OPS, 4th in SLG, 4th in R
Brewers 24th in OPS, 14th in SLG, 19th in R
It’s going to be HARD not easy for the Brewers to match the Cubs lineup.
Add on the loss of C.C. Sabathia and likely the loss of Ben Sheets too and the Brewers will be lucky to be .500.
Everyone is fixated on how we had to fight back the Brewers in 2007 and Braun had an OPS of over .1000, Fielder had 51 HRs, Hardy was on fire, Hart looked really promising, etc. That team is done and done. They were playing way over their heads. They strike out too much and walk too little.
by IllinoisCubs on Dec 10, 2008 3:56 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Great Numbers
But they are still young and will only get better
“They need pitching”
Isn’t great that we don’t have to say that
"Loyal? I'm the most loyal player money can buy."
- Dodgers, Astros, Brewers, A's & Angels pitcher Don Sutton
by CubFreak on Dec 10, 2008 4:00 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
No actually they are getting worse
They could improve but their numbers were down across the board Fielder, Braun, Hart, or stayed about the the same, Weeks, Hardy.
Again you could argue they are ‘due’ for a rebound like what they did in 2007 but Fielder is going to rebound to over 50 HRs, Braun is going to go back to raking up an OPS of 1.400 against lefties, and Hart is going to go back to his ‘best’ BB:K ratio of 2:5. Yeah, I’m not too worried.
by IllinoisCubs on Dec 10, 2008 4:14 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I disagree
Fontenot at 2B every day . . . big ? in RF . . . uncertainty with Fukudome . . . Theriot just not that good.
I can see the Brewers scoring more than the Cubs in 2009. I hope they don’t.
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by Shanghai Badger on Dec 11, 2008 8:46 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
im gunna say
cardinals put a run together.. AGAIN
by Kchance on Dec 10, 2008 2:26 PM CST reply actions 1 recs
As one of the Cardinals fans that likes to come over here and see what you're discussing.....
If CC does in fact sign with the Yanks, I see this division next year, whether Peavy is a Cub or not, as the Cubs division to lose.
Does anyone have a chance to match the Cubs? Sure, but I think it would take a team overachieving along with the Cubs underachieving in order for the other team to stay in it. Who has the best chance of that?
I agree that if anyone’s going to do it, the Cards are the most likely, but I see the Cards as probably an 84-87 win team, so if they pull that off, the Cubs should still handily take the Central in 2009.
by mtalken on Dec 10, 2008 6:34 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Much left to do in the off season but
Milwaukee should sell the “Big Guy” to the loser of the Tex sweepstakes and do what Oakland and Minnesota.
They might need a lefty and could sign Ibanez or trade spare parts to Minn, KC, or FL for their lefty.
If the Cubs indeed land Peavy for what is the rumored deal of Peavy-DeRosa-Marquis-Hart-Vitters-Happ- they Cubs with the rotation will be the favorite not only in the NLC but the NL period, which means nothing.
Piniella: "This is a tougher job than I thought it would be, I'm going to be honest with you."
by Ivy Walls on Dec 10, 2008 6:48 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
which means nothing...
Talking Baseball in December with these following claims is awesome:
Being NL favorites is sweet
Being theTwo Time Defending NL Central Champs is sweet
Getting excited about POSSIBLY THE BEST Super Starting 5 EVER is beyond sweet
but we gotta play the games and that’s part of the excitement!
"Loyal? I'm the most loyal player money can buy."
- Dodgers, Astros, Brewers, A's & Angels pitcher Don Sutton
by CubFreak on Dec 10, 2008 9:52 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Well,
I expect Cincy and St. Louis to be very competitive next year. Frankly, I like the Cubs, but I expect both to be chasing the Chicago closely all season long.
by Damen Jackson on Dec 10, 2008 2:26 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Never count out LaRussa
He really hates the Cubs
"Loyal? I'm the most loyal player money can buy."
- Dodgers, Astros, Brewers, A's & Angels pitcher Don Sutton
by CubFreak on Dec 10, 2008 2:32 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Milwaukee is still a solid team.
While this year’s rotation is definitely going to be worse, it will still be formidable. Seeing how the Brewers had enough money to offer CC 20 million annually over five years, I fully expect them to go out and get a solid starter, maybe Randy Johnson. That signing, plus the return of Yovani Gallardo, makes their rotation a very pretty good one. I may be alone with this, but I fully expect Gallardo to emerge as a frontline starter next year, giving them Ben-Sheets like production. Their offense is the same and should probably improve a bit with a full year from Mike Cameron and further development by their young players, and potentially a rebound year from Rickie Weeks. If they can bolster their bullpen and get a solid closer they should be right in the thick of things come next September.
by dakoose on Dec 10, 2008 2:28 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Brew Crew have the $$$$$
Great call, they need help. Pitching is the key
"Loyal? I'm the most loyal player money can buy."
- Dodgers, Astros, Brewers, A's & Angels pitcher Don Sutton
by CubFreak on Dec 10, 2008 2:35 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Which year is Weeks going to 'rebound' from?
http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/players/7213/career;_ylt=AuQOhaQVALkhrqmgWCsf19KFCLcF
Weeks played 129 games this year and that’s a career high. He barely was over .800 OPS last year and he’s hit about .235 over his last 900 at-bats. I’d say that’s a pretty good sample size. His defense is terrible to boot. There’s no suggestion that he will ever rebound, and again to what? 2007 September? Anyone can have a flash in the pan like that.
Oh and as for using that $$$$, that was only for Sabathia. http://danny-knobler.blogs.sportsline.com/mcc/blogs/entry/8590096/12211670?source=rss_blogs_MLB The owners told Melvin he can’t use ANY of the money from the Sabathia deal. It was only there for a real superstar.
by IllinoisCubs on Dec 10, 2008 4:09 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
That totally sucks
If its good for CC then why not some for somebody else…
"Loyal? I'm the most loyal player money can buy."
- Dodgers, Astros, Brewers, A's & Angels pitcher Don Sutton
by CubFreak on Dec 10, 2008 4:21 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I actually agree with the owners
And not just because I’m a Cubs fan.
Sabathia became a folk hero in Milwauke for the way he lead the Brewers down the stretch. There is already love for him in Milwaukee. Plus, the other options out there are flawed. Burnett (injury problems), Lowe (age). They got burned in the Suppan deal (He’s set to make $12.5 in ‘09 and $12.5M again in ’10!) and they really can’t afford to dish out huge money to another starter who may give mixed results.
by IllinoisCubs on Dec 10, 2008 4:28 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
In business
There’s High risk & High Rewards!
Spend some to make some
Owners need to provide a winner for the fans if they got the funds
Spend wisely on another pitcher!
"Loyal? I'm the most loyal player money can buy."
- Dodgers, Astros, Brewers, A's & Angels pitcher Don Sutton
by CubFreak on Dec 10, 2008 4:44 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Thank you for that info.
I wasn’t aware that they had a special CC account.
by dakoose on Dec 10, 2008 4:38 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
this is finally the year...
the Pirates are over .500. Look out, they’re a sleeper team this year!
/sarcam
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by digitalbenjamin on Dec 10, 2008 2:32 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Let's see how spring training goes.
First, we need to make sure our house is in order. I’m more concerned about sorting out middle infield and outfield duties than who’s going to be breathing down our neck in September.
Having said that, I’m not worried about the Pirates. The Cards are always a concern, if only because of LaRussa’s managerial prowess. I don’t see the Reds or Astros making a serious run right now, and the Brewers… I want to see them play in spring training before I make up my mind. They could be competitive, or they could melt down by May.
"Well, we're out of cake! We only had three bits and we didn't expect such a rush! So what do you want?"
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by znohitter on Dec 10, 2008 2:36 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
The Reds intrigue me,
particularly with Walt Jockety as the GM. I’ve always though he’s a shrewd talent evaluator.
I’m not sure if the Reds are ready to contend in 2009 but sometime in the next couple of years, I think they will make the playoffs.
Hey, it's a new century!
by cowsarecool220 on Dec 10, 2008 2:44 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Remember the Dusty factor
Can he really be a threat?
In Dusty We……..
"Loyal? I'm the most loyal player money can buy."
- Dodgers, Astros, Brewers, A's & Angels pitcher Don Sutton
by CubFreak on Dec 10, 2008 2:48 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Sure the Reds can win with Dusty as the manager.
The Cubs won in 2003 with Dusty as the manager.
The key is the right mix of players and I think Jockety can put that together.
Hey, it's a new century!
by cowsarecool220 on Dec 10, 2008 3:29 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
The Cubs won...
… a division title and a playoff series. But they didn’t “WIN”.
"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx
by Al on Dec 10, 2008 3:37 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I guess we have different definitions of winning.
I consider any season that the team gets to the playoffs a “winning” season. This is because only 1 team can win the whole tournament.
Also, the 2003 NLDS was the only playoff series that the Cubs have won since (1908, I think?) Not that Dusty was exactly responsible as Woody was the person most responsible for winning.
Hey, it's a new century!
by cowsarecool220 on Dec 10, 2008 3:43 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
you are correct sir....Ed McMahon
"Loyal? I'm the most loyal player money can buy."
- Dodgers, Astros, Brewers, A's & Angels pitcher Don Sutton
by CubFreak on Dec 10, 2008 3:57 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
That would me Miss!
Hey, it's a new century!
by cowsarecool220 on Dec 10, 2008 4:00 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Oops, sorry! Women & children first.....John Wayne
"Loyal? I'm the most loyal player money can buy."
- Dodgers, Astros, Brewers, A's & Angels pitcher Don Sutton
by CubFreak on Dec 10, 2008 4:02 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I think the Reds have too many holes.
They have a good infield, with Votto, Encarnacion and Phillips, but I don’t like their shortstop and catcher. Meanwhile, they have the supremely talented Jay Bruce in the outfield, but Chris Dickerson and Norris Hopper don’t do much for me. Dickerson might turn into something down the road, but he probably won’t. Whatever it’s worth, Bill James really likes Dickerson.
The Reds also have a solid rotation, and the may have found their front of the rotation guy in Edinson Volquez, but the ret of their pitchers look like number four type guys. Though, a big rebound for Aaron Harang could change that.
I think Cinci is at least a year away from contending.
by dakoose on Dec 10, 2008 2:55 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
what if they do get Dye?
Would you like their outfield then?
Pitching maybe a FA and/or trade away?
Can they be good enough to compete for a crown?
"Loyal? I'm the most loyal player money can buy."
- Dodgers, Astros, Brewers, A's & Angels pitcher Don Sutton
by CubFreak on Dec 10, 2008 2:59 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Their outfield would be better offensively,
but Dye would only be there for next year and I don’t believe they have enough talent to compete as soon as next year, even with Dye.
by dakoose on Dec 10, 2008 3:20 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
You may be right about the Reds being a year away
but that was also said about the Rays in 2008.
You just never know when team with young talent will break out.
It will be interesting to watch.
Hey, it's a new century!
by cowsarecool220 on Dec 10, 2008 3:30 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I can't count out the Astros
They were actually 86-75 last season
Carlos Lee played in only 115 games and still had a 100 RBI season.
(seemed like those were all against the Cubs)
If they can reacquire Randy Johnson, along with Oswalt & a rebound season for Hampton,
They can contend!
"Loyal? I'm the most loyal player money can buy."
- Dodgers, Astros, Brewers, A's & Angels pitcher Don Sutton
by CubFreak on Dec 10, 2008 2:46 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
The Astros played way over their heads.
Their Pythagorean record was 77-84. Teams that do this tend to seriously regress the following year.
Remember the 2007 Diamondbacks? The team that won 90 games with a negative run differential? Guess what happened to them in 2008? They won eight fewer games.
I expect the Astros to finish with 77-78 wins in 2009 — unless they significantly change their team, i.e. upgrade their pitching staff.
"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx
by Al on Dec 10, 2008 3:18 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
Upgrade their pitching with Hampton & Randy???
They got the bats, they need the pitching
"Loyal? I'm the most loyal player money can buy."
- Dodgers, Astros, Brewers, A's & Angels pitcher Don Sutton
by CubFreak on Dec 10, 2008 3:23 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I think the Astors need to many "ifs" to happen
to be a serious contender in 2009. I think it’s much more likely they will regress.
The organization also has money issues and is trying to cut payroll which is never a good sign for a team to get better.
Hey, it's a new century!
by cowsarecool220 on Dec 10, 2008 3:33 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
so even if they get RANDY?
"Loyal? I'm the most loyal player money can buy."
- Dodgers, Astros, Brewers, A's & Angels pitcher Don Sutton
by CubFreak on Dec 10, 2008 3:44 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
The other five teams can...
…form an all-star team that could compete with the Cubs, maybe…
Unless there is drastic moves (plural) by one of the closer teams (birds, brewcrew), the Cubs will win the division by >10 in the “L” column for 2009.
I’m not concerned about games 1-162, I’m concerned about games 163 to say……I don’t know 175 or so!
Sweet Lou for Mayor in '11.
by blackhawk24 on Dec 10, 2008 3:00 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
gotta play the games man
can’t win the series w/o winning a pennant
Can’t win a pennant w/o winning a division series
Can’t win a division series if you don’t get in
GOTTA PLAY THE GAMES MAN!
"Loyal? I'm the most loyal player money can buy."
- Dodgers, Astros, Brewers, A's & Angels pitcher Don Sutton
by CubFreak on Dec 10, 2008 3:03 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Yep
A lot of Cubs fans thought that the 2004 postseason was our birthright . . .
I think you’re original question is valid, but I don’t think the Brewers are out of it yet. In fact, the only team that I’d even think to count out right now is Pittsburgh.
Facts are meaningless. You could use facts to prove anything that's even remotely true! --Homer J. Simpson
by Shanghai Badger on Dec 10, 2008 3:06 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Can we just go ahead and count the Bucs out until further notice?
Say, review the decision every four years or so?
"Well, we're out of cake! We only had three bits and we didn't expect such a rush! So what do you want?"
"What, so my choice is 'or death?' Well, then I'll have the chicken, please."
--Eddie Izzard
by znohitter on Dec 10, 2008 3:12 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I feel bad for Pirate fans....
Just like I felt bad, and laughed, seeing all of the Detroit Lions fans at Ford Field a week or two ago aganst the Titans.
It must be horrible going to a game, or in the Pirates case the season, knowing you are probably going to lose.
Haha the Lions fans were loud in pregame, they shut up pretty quick.
by EJThunder on Dec 10, 2008 3:25 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
2004 sucked
what about 05
what a major let down!!!
"Loyal? I'm the most loyal player money can buy."
- Dodgers, Astros, Brewers, A's & Angels pitcher Don Sutton
by CubFreak on Dec 10, 2008 3:22 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I know that...
Look at all the other teams [in the division]. They are far and away less complete than the Cubs.
The Cubs are (and unless another division team makes huge strides) and will be the prohibitive favorites in 2009. Going into 2004, they may have been favored but were not prohibitive favorites. The birds and ’stros were still right there.
The one team that could have challenged the Cubs in 2009 already lost their big pitching guy (and so too the sure-fire SS they gave up for him), they down graded in CF just yesterday, they’re about to lose another very good SP, their ‘pen is in shambles, their bench is thin and their defence is marginal. They can’t possibly improve enough of those areas on their budget to compete with the Cubs. It’s a huge stretch of the imagination they could even finish within 5-6 games of the Cubs. The Cubs would have to have serious injuries to fall back to the rest of the division.
Sweet Lou for Mayor in '11.
by blackhawk24 on Dec 11, 2008 7:34 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Brewers
If Mark Antanasio was serious about keeping Sabathia I don’t understand why they’re not out there offering 4-5 year deals to both Lowe and Burnett. If they do not add one ace-type of pitcher and/or a #2-3 pitcher, this is simply a bad rotation.
My biggest concern is the Reds. I think its a solid team with a really nice rotation with Arroyo, Harang, Cueto and Volquez.
by dmlichte on Dec 10, 2008 3:13 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
What Happened to Harang
Very nice rotation.
If they add Dye, maybe just maybe
I know Dusty would like to stick it to us
After all, we went nuts on a shopping spree right after we did not resign him
Should be interesting..
"Loyal? I'm the most loyal player money can buy."
- Dodgers, Astros, Brewers, A's & Angels pitcher Don Sutton
by CubFreak on Dec 10, 2008 3:20 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Harang
Harang pitched 4 IP in a relief role when the Reds played some game to 14 innings or so.
After that Harang was not the same. He ended up on the DL eventually. Once he came back, he was on fire. http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/players/6936/gamelog;ylt=ArHM9A.m61.rEKZZ1rMpUSFCLcF Check out from August 16th to the end of the season. Take out that one blip against St. Louis to end the season and his ERA would have been around 2.00. Yeah, add in Volquez, Cueto, Arroyo (innings eater at least) and that’s a solid core to start with. We’ll see if Dusty knows how to use it. Based on what happened to Harang last year, my guess is NO but the 2003 Cubs example prevails.
by IllinoisCubs on Dec 10, 2008 4:19 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I'm gonna go out on a limb and say that the Brewers are the 4th best team in the division....
Ageeing with dml, the Reds can’t be overlooked.
Sure, we said the same thing last year but they have some excellent young players, especially pitchers. Harang, Cueto, Volquez (obviously), and Arroyo (a little more of a stretch) can be pretty dominant pitchers able to reach 15 wins.
They’ve got Votto, Bruce and other players could make some surprises.
Trying to set aside my Cubs bias, I say that the Cubs have the best rotation and lineup in the division, still.
I feel like the Brewers are going to take some steps back these next couple years. They’ve been thinking about trading Hart and Prince.
They’ll be back, though.
by EJThunder on Dec 10, 2008 3:21 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
The Jocketty Factor
Proven winner
Knows the division very well
Always making the RIGHT moves (Hernandez catching is an upgrade)
Maybe the Reds will give us a run….
"Loyal? I'm the most loyal player money can buy."
- Dodgers, Astros, Brewers, A's & Angels pitcher Don Sutton
by CubFreak on Dec 10, 2008 3:34 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Actually, I hope they are competitive.
It’s bad for baseball for a team like the Reds with so much history to have so many losing seasons.
It sure would be fun to watch!
Hey, it's a new century!
by cowsarecool220 on Dec 10, 2008 3:45 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
It would be fun to watch....
as long as they are behind us in the standings. haha
What about us? With so much history…..
….our time better be near.
by EJThunder on Dec 10, 2008 4:33 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Maybe winning the wildcard would change our luck?
Hey, it's a new century!
by cowsarecool220 on Dec 10, 2008 4:38 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Well...
I obviously want the Cubs to win the division, but I am hoping one of the other Central teams puts in a good season and pushes the Cubs throughout the year. I think meaningful, pressure-packed games in September can help a club and players to adjust to a more competitive atmosphere, and can only help us once the playoffs come around.
Free Ronny Cedeno
by Kansas25 on Dec 10, 2008 3:49 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
REST VS RUST
We need to play in competitve & meaningful games in Sept.
COMPETITION IS GOOD 4 DA SOUL
"Loyal? I'm the most loyal player money can buy."
- Dodgers, Astros, Brewers, A's & Angels pitcher Don Sutton
by CubFreak on Dec 10, 2008 3:53 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Speed? Elaborate my Kansas Buddy
"Loyal? I'm the most loyal player money can buy."
- Dodgers, Astros, Brewers, A's & Angels pitcher Don Sutton
by CubFreak on Dec 10, 2008 4:03 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Yo Mike C.
"Loyal? I'm the most loyal player money can buy."
- Dodgers, Astros, Brewers, A's & Angels pitcher Don Sutton
by CubFreak on Dec 10, 2008 4:10 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
yo dial for dollars
Let’s make this happen during the Winter Meetings!
NL Central GMs need to make deals to make Central competitive
"Loyal? I'm the most loyal player money can buy."
- Dodgers, Astros, Brewers, A's & Angels pitcher Don Sutton
by CubFreak on Dec 10, 2008 4:14 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
ERROR
DOES NOT COMPUTE: SEE 2008 METS
"Thank god I threw out my belt & shoelaces."-Bernies Mustache Wax on Evil BCB, 7/31/08
by Bildo1805 on Dec 10, 2008 4:36 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
I'm sorry?
What does that have to do with anything?
by IllinoisCubs on Dec 10, 2008 4:43 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I hate the yankees
I hope cc gtes pounded in the al east just because.
Dear Santa:: All I want for X-mas this year is an official 2009 Jake Peavy Cubs Jersey. Oh and a Beimel one too. I've been a real good guy for the most part!!!
by cubsluver22 on Dec 10, 2008 5:11 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
gets
Dear Santa:: All I want for X-mas this year is an official 2009 Jake Peavy Cubs Jersey. Oh and a Beimel one too. I've been a real good guy for the most part!!!
by cubsluver22 on Dec 10, 2008 5:11 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
C.C. won me over...
this year. I really respect his abilities and hope I get to see him at his peak in the next few years. I dislike the Yankees and don’t wish them well, but I really like C.C. Glad to see him in the AL.
Free Ronny Cedeno
by Kansas25 on Dec 10, 2008 7:03 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Do you think CC will embrace the NY media?
Or the NY media embrace C.C?
"Loyal? I'm the most loyal player money can buy."
- Dodgers, Astros, Brewers, A's & Angels pitcher Don Sutton
by CubFreak on Dec 10, 2008 9:30 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
How long are their arms? :P
"Well, we're out of cake! We only had three bits and we didn't expect such a rush! So what do you want?"
"What, so my choice is 'or death?' Well, then I'll have the chicken, please."
--Eddie Izzard
by znohitter on Dec 10, 2008 10:21 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
LOL
A WHOLE LOTTA LOVE..
"Loyal? I'm the most loyal player money can buy."
- Dodgers, Astros, Brewers, A's & Angels pitcher Don Sutton
by CubFreak on Dec 10, 2008 10:38 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Wow...
two Zep references to my comments in one night. I must be doing something right!
"Well, we're out of cake! We only had three bits and we didn't expect such a rush! So what do you want?"
"What, so my choice is 'or death?' Well, then I'll have the chicken, please."
--Eddie Izzard
by znohitter on Dec 10, 2008 10:51 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Brown, Mussina, Pavano, Johnson
They like to pay for non play……CC has a lot of innings. He could break like any pitcher
Piniella: "This is a tougher job than I thought it would be, I'm going to be honest with you."
by Ivy Walls on Dec 10, 2008 6:26 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
I hope he stays healthy
but gets lit up often. yankees are slowly ruining baseball one stupid contract at a time.
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by cubsluver22 on Dec 10, 2008 6:51 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Reports have them offer AJ Burnett 5 years also
they are like Potter in the movie “Its a Wonderful Life”, they are buying
Piniella: "This is a tougher job than I thought it would be, I'm going to be honest with you."
by Ivy Walls on Dec 10, 2008 8:10 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Guaranteed Money for AJ
Yankees trying to BUY a World Series
Who have they developed in the last 5 years?
Jeter, Rivera, Posada was like a galaxy ago
"Loyal? I'm the most loyal player money can buy."
- Dodgers, Astros, Brewers, A's & Angels pitcher Don Sutton
by CubFreak on Dec 10, 2008 9:24 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Hughes and Joba look like they could be really good
Especially in Joba’s case. Anyone who throws 98 has a chance in the MLB (see Kyle Farnsworth, who just signed with the Royals)
"If I were playing third base and my mother were rounding third with the run that was going to beat us, I'd trip her. Oh, I'd pick her up and brush her off and say, 'Sorry, Mom,' but nobody beats me." ~ Leo Durocher
by Musicdude10 on Dec 11, 2008 11:50 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Joba The What
So far so good
"Loyal? I'm the most loyal player money can buy."
- Dodgers, Astros, Brewers, A's & Angels pitcher Don Sutton
by CubFreak on Dec 11, 2008 1:36 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
And just because someone "has a chance"...
…doesn’t mean they’re “good.” (See Farnsworth, Kyle, who just signed with the Royals.)
Yes, yes ... winter is indeed a pond upon which all of us must skate, braving frostbite and runny noses in the hopes that our cars will start and we shan't embarass ourselves slipping on a patch of black ice. Spring is more a quagmire of cold mud and slush, and fall is a pile of fallen leaves that may or may not hide a pile of doggy doo-doo. But summer, ah summer is an oasis of endless green that disappears all too quickly beneath our feet as we rush through its warm, glorious bliss.
by dat cubfan daver on Dec 11, 2008 1:53 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Mussina was actually a very good sign
"Loyal? I'm the most loyal player money can buy."
- Dodgers, Astros, Brewers, A's & Angels pitcher Don Sutton
by CubFreak on Dec 10, 2008 9:31 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Pujols is, and always will be, the biggest threat to the Cubs.
It’s absolutely amazing how in this sport, one player can single-handedly make a team a contender, regardless of the supporting cast around him.
I'm not going to even bother trying to update this sig everyday anymore... that's what the standings column on ESPN is for.
Updated on May 25, 2008
by SackMan on Dec 11, 2008 10:43 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
PUJOLS IS A BEAST!
"Loyal? I'm the most loyal player money can buy."
- Dodgers, Astros, Brewers, A's & Angels pitcher Don Sutton
by CubFreak on Dec 11, 2008 1:35 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
central
the cardinals are always a threat and the reds can be scary when they,re on.the astros always seem to have a miracle run in them every year until they peter out.dont ever count on the cubs being automatic.as we all know they always find a way to dissapoint.
by NOMAR on Dec 11, 2008 10:51 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
WELLSAID
ANDWELLWRITTEN,ASUSUAL.
"Every player should be accorded the privilege of at least one season with the Chicago Cubs. That's baseball as it should be played - in God's own sunshine. And that's really living." ~Alvin Dark
by DamonBerryhillsMitt on Dec 11, 2008 11:28 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Cubs petering out
In a short series it can happen
During the season, NEVER not under Lou!
He will sit your ass!
"Loyal? I'm the most loyal player money can buy."
- Dodgers, Astros, Brewers, A's & Angels pitcher Don Sutton
by CubFreak on Dec 11, 2008 1:35 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
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