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Courtesy of Deadspin (hasn't yet run in any mainstream media) comes this very cool, heartwarming story about the Hawks...Just wanted to pass it on to you guys. Enjoy!

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How long until we see the movie? :P

"Well, we're out of cake! We only had three bits and we didn't expect such a rush! So what do you want?"
"What, so my choice is 'or death?' Well, then I'll have the chicken, please."
--Eddie Izzard

by znohitter on Dec 11, 2008 10:49 AM CST reply actions  

It's one things that separates hockey players from some of the other leagues

The vast majority of hockey players are much more respectful (image other leagues with 95% of the players having the virtue of Ryne Sandberg) than players of other leagues and I overtly reference the NFL and NBA here. I truly believe NHL’ers are honored to play in their league. I cannot readily say that for other leagues.

Ironically, they were 3-0 on that first leg of the trip and 0-2-1 on the second leg.

Sweet Lou for Mayor in '11.

by blackhawk24 on Dec 11, 2008 3:21 PM CST reply actions  

You know, you're right, and this story proves it.

And yet, during games, they stop and have fistfights. It’s a paradox.

"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al Yellon on Dec 11, 2008 9:06 PM CST up reply actions  

Then, they later shake hands

….after a playoff series has finished. Nothing personal…just hard-nosed play. This is why hockey’s the next best sport after baseball.

by San Diego Smooth Jazz Man on Dec 12, 2008 11:01 PM CST up reply actions  

Hard-nosed play, fine.

Fistfights, pointless. That’s why college hockey is better than pro hockey — played hard, but clean.

"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al Yellon on Dec 13, 2008 5:25 AM CST up reply actions  

There usually IS a point to most fights, but not all....

The ‘enforcers’ are there to protect the stars, especially if some of the officials swallow their whistles. Some tough guys have talent. Some, can barely carry the puck.

There are plenty who belong to the ‘goon’ squad, who’s sole purpose is to start a fight to provide a ‘spark’ to a team that may be slumping. (So, I guess there’s a point to that type of fighting, too.)

Many people complain about the scraps, but nobody goes to buy beer when one starts, as far as I can tell. The violence of ‘pro’ wrestling far surpasses anything the NHL can put on display, even on its’ worst nights.

When part of the game involves body contact which might involve checking a player into the glass, fighting is going to happen.

However, there’s no room for the awful boarding body checks that are taking place when one player slams another while his back is turned, forcing the body-checked player viciously into the glass/boards. This is terrible, and the league needs to crack down on this. And, players now need to remember to never have their back to a play — turn so your shoulders are closer to the glass/boards, not your head. If there’s only a meager 2-minute penalty for such a body check, they’d better start to protect themselves. (Or, maybe you send the ‘enforcer’ to take care of the situation the referees are not taking care of!)

Also, goalies seem to be sitting ducks these days. Every game — it never fails — an onrushing forward smashes into a goalie at full speed. Both players usually wind up in the net, which is now resting against the boards. This never happened years ago. You barely touch a goalie, it was an almost automatic interference penalty. Now, a goalie is upended at least once a game, and the officials are silent.

I personally think it’s open season on goalies BECAUSE the net is now so easily knocked off its’ magnets. before, when the net was anchored on small pipes in the ice — you would NEVER see plays deliberately designed to attack the goalie. A forward, or a goalie slamming into the net, which was pretty rigid — probably would be injured. Now, in an effort to PREVENT injury, the net is dislodged if the goalie backs into the crossbar. Forwards feel it’s full speed ahead, because, hell — neither of us will be injured, and no penalty will be called.

More injuries are caused by the two actions I’ve just described than two guys who are slipping around, grabbing each other, barely connecting on any punches.

OK, Hawks and Jackets are on…see ya..

by San Diego Smooth Jazz Man on Dec 14, 2008 6:15 PM CST up reply actions  

I dunno.

Hockey wasn’t like this when we were kids. I’m not sure what made it change, but I liked it better then.

"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al Yellon on Dec 14, 2008 7:54 PM CST up reply actions  

I have to ask?

When were you a kid? Hockey and fighting go back well almost to the beginning of hockey. There have been “tough as nails” types since it began, and as for the dropping the gloves part…if you were young when Gordie Howe or Bobby Hull played then you surely saw fighting.

by cubby23 on Dec 15, 2008 4:21 AM CST up reply actions  

The 1960's.

Yes, there were fights… but not like now. The “goon squads” didn’t start till the 1970’s, the first real example was the “Broad Street Bullies”, the Flyers of the 70’s.

I still maintain it’s unnecessary. You can have tough hard played hockey games without fistfights.

"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al Yellon on Dec 15, 2008 4:36 AM CST up reply actions  

I understand

There’s a segment of the hockey loving populace that agrees with you. Then there are those that feel the stick work that would go on without an enforcer type would create the kind of injuries you don’t want happening to your star players.

I think the Broad Street Bullies is a fairly isolated example, most teams today can’t be called “goon squads.” There are even a few teams that barely have 1 tough guy maybe 2. There’s a code and although it gets stretched or ignored from time to time I think most hockey players try to abide by it.

I agree that tough hard played hockey games can occur and do without fights, but sometimes the tempers flare or one team takes a run at another team’s star player and if left unchecked it becomes ugly, real ugly. Hockey players stick up for one another like few in any other team sport. Similarly, when there’s a beaning in baseball, why does a team then attempt to retalliate by throwing at a batter? It’s part of the game.

by cubby23 on Dec 17, 2008 6:23 PM CST up reply actions  

Since it happened in Canada,

it’s almost as if it didn’t happen. I don’t mean that negatively. NHLers act like regular people. They actually (gasp!) respect their fans. Canada’s media is not like the US. The celebrity mind-set isn’t as white-hot.

People who knew about this would say, that it was really cool, it was great…but they might not be phoning or E-Mailing the CBC or their local newspaper. So many of the Canadian NHLers are from these small towns and don’t seem to let their money affect them — so, the Hawks probably signed a few autographs, ate, and moved on without a show.

Then, there’s Steve Avery.

by San Diego Smooth Jazz Man on Dec 11, 2008 4:53 PM CST reply actions  

I am surprised, though, that the Chicago media

has not mentioned the fact that they went to the funeral, on an off day…

Brian McRae's 5 o'clock shadow

by PurpleLineToWrigley on Dec 12, 2008 9:04 AM CST up reply actions  

They finally did, today...

Linky

Probably only after they saw it on Deadspin.

"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al Yellon on Dec 12, 2008 12:29 PM CST up reply actions  

As much as I love baseball

and it is and always will be my favorite sport, I have a special place in my heart for hockey (and the Hawks) and it’s largely because of stories like this.
Hockey players seem to be the most down to earth, least "entitled’ of professional athletes and this story certainly bears that out.

by bluekoolaide on Dec 12, 2008 10:05 PM CST reply actions  

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