Reed Johnson Signed; Non-Tenders And Seemingly Ridiculous Offers
The Cubs have re-signed outfielder Reed Johnson for 2009. Here's the official press release:
The Chicago Cubs and outfielder Reed Johnson have agreed to terms on a 2009 contract. Johnson was to be eligible for salary arbitration. Terms of the deal were not disclosed.
The Cubs also offered arbitration to their three other arb-eligible players: Ronny Cedeno, Kevin Gregg and Michael Wuertz. I would expect all of them to sign long before any arb hearing was scheduled. We now have an "official" approximate payroll figure:
The signings put 13 players under contract for next year at a total of $121.375 million -- already more than what the entire 25-man roster was guaranteed when last season opened (a number that reached $130 million by the end of the season).
And, the Angels have offered Mark Teixeira an eight-year contract to stay in Los Angeles of Anaheim:
The Angels had not intended to go to eight years, but the market apparently has forced their boldest move yet to retain Teixeira, the player they made their highest offseason priority from the moment he filed for free agency.
The bar has been firmly set at $20 million per year for Teixeira, the hottest property on the market. Boras initially said he was seeking a 10-year, $200 million contract for the slugger who began his career with the Rangers in 2003 and has 203 homers and 676 RBIs in six seasons with a .290 career average
This appears to be a legitimate offer, and that may set the market higher than otherwise expected for other free agents. It seems, so far, that only the wealthiest of teams (Yankees, Angels) can afford the premier free agents this offseason. Whether this reflects reticence on the part of other teams, the effects of the uncertain economy going into 2009, or both, remains to be seen. This, and the $121.375 million already on the 2009, payroll, are yet more reasons, in my opinion, that Jim Hendry should stay away from the high-priced outfield market and focus on acquiring someone like Jeremy Hermida by trade.
This article at mlb.com on non-tenders contains the following interesting information:
Among the closers still out there, Kerry Wood is having the results of a physical studied by the Indians...
Still studying medical reports? You'd have thought that would be done by now. The article also lists Joey Gathright as a non-tender. What about the idea of Gathright as a platoon partner for Reed Johnson, and keeping Kosuke Fukudome in right field?
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I totally agree that the market for big time
free agents, Texiera and Sabathia specifically, has become silly season. All of a sudden Soriano seems like a bargain. But, there’s no way we can go into 2009 with a Johnson-Gathright platoon in center. If Ibanez got 3/$30 mil. there’s no reason to think we couldn’t get Abreu or Bradley at a reasonable price, so the best bet would still be to go after someone from that group. Another interesting thing from yesterday was the Astros letting Ty Wiggington go for nothing. With good off-season moves the Astros could pose a serious threat to the Cubs, but this is a rather ominous start. And with an obvious inability to add payroll you would have to think that this really cripples their team next year.
by Juiceboxjerry on Dec 13, 2008 5:27 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
KERRY WOOD ...
Got a call from a buddie lives in Cleveland …Sports radio guys were also making the fact that KERRY had not passed the physical YET…. ( how long could it take ??)
by cubs north on Dec 13, 2008 5:44 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
This might explain why the Cubs didn't sign him
perhaps they knew something was up with him physically and didn’t want to take the chance. If Wood would have taken a huge discount, as he said he would, to play for the Cubs, it seemed strange the Cubs wouldn’t retain him. Now, it could make sense. And its not like the Cubs would go out and say, “he’s an injury risk waiting to happen,” and screw up his chances of being signed elsewhere.
And in regards to Gathright? No, perhaps as our 4th outfielder/ replacement baserunner but not in a straight up platoon situation.
"Prince Fielder Dies Of Inside-The-Park Homerun" - The Onion
by DTJchris on Dec 13, 2008 5:48 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
I don't think it took
an extensive medical exam to say that Kerry Wood was an injury risk. The only reason Woody isn’t still on the team is because the contract Kerry will recieve on the open market isn’t even close to what the Cubs were prepared to offer. As beloved as he is around these parts, the move Hendry made was the right one. Odds are, he will have some kind of injury during his next contract, and Hendry, and particularly Lou, didn’t want to deal with it.
by Juiceboxjerry on Dec 13, 2008 6:05 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Not "injury risk" as in could get injured
but “injury risk” as in the Cubs know something is wrong with Wood. I should have clarified.
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by DTJchris on Dec 13, 2008 6:49 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
C'mon Al
I’m guessing you didn’t look at Gathright’s stats before posting that. The guy had a sub-.600 OPS against both righties and lefties. He is an efficient base stealer, not a particularly good CFer, and a terrible, sub-Neifi hitter.
Pie is 3x the player Gathright is.
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by zambranofan on Dec 13, 2008 7:52 AM CST reply actions 1 recs
Ya but
Can Felix Pie jump a car? Joey Gathright can.
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by Trey2317 on Dec 13, 2008 9:40 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
The mythic sixth tool!
The author of this post is not a certified scout, doctor, agent, statistician, manager, or journalist, nor was he ever a very good player, though he tried very hard to be like Ryne Sandberg and was about as scrappy as it gets (in T-ball). Any opinion expressed above should in no way be confused with fact, truth, or reality and is hereby qualified in the following ways: 1) The author does not know as much about baseball as Lou Piniella. 2) The author does not know as much about baseball as Jim Hendry. 3) The author does not know as much about baseball as either Dusty or Darren Baker.
by DGU on Dec 13, 2008 3:17 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, probably right.
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by Al on Dec 13, 2008 9:48 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Gaithright and Fukudome in the same lineup.... whoa.
We can’t afford to have 33% of our starting lineup hit like pitchers. (22% on days when Z is starting.)
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by D98 on Dec 15, 2008 10:03 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
CC, AJ and Tex might be a footnote as being the last of an era
I foresee some huge changes for MLB going forward in the next era.
No more guaranteed contracts…something like the NFL will come about, where the only guarantee will be front loaded bonuses….but there will be an injury insurance…for the Lloyds of London will not underwrite these contracts anymore.
What I am interested in is the mention that it is not this year nor 2011 or 2012 that the Cubs Front Office is concerned about but 2010.
What contracts are maturing that year? Is it that Theriot, Fontenot Soto and others maturing into a next range? I don’t see any big increases current signees.
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by Ivy Walls on Dec 13, 2008 8:08 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
It'll never happen. MLB players will never give up gauranteed contracts. They will strike
over that and will never give in. They have had that right a long time and there is no reason they should give it up. It’s not up to the players to protect owners from themselves. No one is holding a gun to the owners heads and making them sign these contracts. If they didn’t have the money, they wouldn’t spend it. Where do you suggest the money go, in the owner’s pockets?
Teams like the yankees and the Angels are making large amounts of money and spending on their players. That’s called free enterprise. If you don’t like it, get out. No one is forcing anyone to be a major league owner. They know the rules. Theluxury tax was put inplace to equalize the playing field and you have teams like Florida spending less on their players than they are receiving in luxury tax payments. Gauranteed contracts is not the problem. There’s plenty of revenue in baseball, it’s just not equally shared. That’s the problem.
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by willie mays hayes' gloves on Dec 13, 2008 9:01 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
The union structure..........
………..is the primary difference between the NFL and MLB. While ownership can get away with quasi-bogus contracts in the NFL, I don’t see that ever happening in baseball.
The players will let the league go under before they ever surrender that much power back to the owners.
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by tville on Dec 13, 2008 9:04 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Why not give Pie an extended shot this year in CF?
None of this bouncing between MLB and AAA. Play him for 60-70 straight games and give him a legimate shot. Same with Fukudome.
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by ronsanto10 on Dec 13, 2008 8:28 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
Pie is out of options, so he won't go back to Iowa.
He will either be traded or be the Cubs’ 5th OF.
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by DeRoMyHero on Dec 13, 2008 3:42 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Its official
Wood is gone!! link
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by cubsluver22 on Dec 13, 2008 8:30 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
Interesting
that the article lists Scottsdale, AZ as home for Kerry and family.
by LT on Dec 13, 2008 8:58 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Wood does live in Arizona during the offseason.
I suspect an AZ-based ST team was important to him.
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by Al on Dec 13, 2008 9:49 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Good Luck , Good Bye
Bobby Jean
Just heard it on the radio after Springsteen
I've been bleeding double blue Cubbies & NY Rangers
by parrotinct on Dec 13, 2008 11:43 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Now that it's official
I am one sad Cubs fan. I understand the dynamics, I think, but that doesn’t make me feel any better.
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by MOCubsfan on Dec 13, 2008 10:31 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Glad we got got Johnson
N/T
Can't wait for the Cubs in '08!!!
by fuzzycubfan on Dec 13, 2008 8:43 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
I thought the same thing about Gathright...
didn’t many here want him a couple of years ago? He wouldn’t be a bad option off the bench like we used Reed last year? He could end up being a smart pickup.
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by Kinky Reggae on Dec 13, 2008 9:08 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
If a base needed stolen
Gathright has the wheels for it. Should Pie leave, he might not be a bad option, as long as Johnson was the primary CFer.
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by Trey2317 on Dec 13, 2008 9:41 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I agree.
Minus Pie, Gathright makes some sense.
The author of this post is not a certified scout, doctor, agent, statistician, manager, or journalist, nor was he ever a very good player, though he tried very hard to be like Ryne Sandberg and was about as scrappy as it gets (in T-ball). Any opinion expressed above should in no way be confused with fact, truth, or reality and is hereby qualified in the following ways: 1) The author does not know as much about baseball as Lou Piniella. 2) The author does not know as much about baseball as Jim Hendry. 3) The author does not know as much about baseball as either Dusty or Darren Baker.
by DGU on Dec 13, 2008 3:18 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Come on you guys can't be serious?
Joey Gathwright? HAHA
Felix Pie is much better now then Joey could ever hope to be.
Come on, he couldn’t even get on the field for the Royals, that should tell your something
by MrShowtime on Dec 13, 2008 10:35 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
Then the Cubs should give Pie a shot.
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by Al on Dec 13, 2008 11:07 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Pie Deserves a Shot
He’s been excellent at every level in the minors. He’s proven that he can rise to the challenge. The Cubs management has been big on his future for years. Yet when brought up to the big club he’s been platooned or a bench player. I like what ronsanto10 said — give him 60-70 straight starts and see what happens. Right now we don’t know if he’ll ever match his expectations. If it does not work out after 60-70 games, then bench him or trade him or make him the waterboy and move forward for the last 90-100 games.
Ya gotta love a team with a shortstop named TheRiot ...
by StampMe on Dec 13, 2008 11:45 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
You're going to have to force Lou to do this...
… because his disdain for Pie is obvious.
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by Al on Dec 13, 2008 11:56 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
If the guy can perform...
… Lou will get over it …
Ya gotta love a team with a shortstop named TheRiot ...
by StampMe on Dec 13, 2008 12:07 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
The problem is...
… Lou never gave Pie a chance to perform last year. The most games he started in a row before Lou benched him was four.
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by Al on Dec 13, 2008 2:49 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
Exactly
The organization has put a lot of effort into grooming Pie into a major league outfielder. He’s been through “school” (with straight A’s) and now it is time to “go to work.” Why not give him the job an see if the investment in education pays off? You’re right Al, only Lou can answer that question.
Ya gotta love a team with a shortstop named TheRiot ...
by StampMe on Dec 13, 2008 4:24 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
If it means getting Fukudome out of the lineup...
Lou may be able to overcome his disdain.
Lou may be looking at a “lesser of two annoyances” next season, and at least Pie looks like an actual MLB player out there.
Pie’s ascent through our minor league system was 1 year better than what we’re all hoping that Vitters can accomplish. He went back to the minors last year to rebuild and shorten his swing, struggled mightily for a while, and then hit about .500 for about 2 months.
He’s followed a pretty consistent pattern at every level — struggle, adjust, then dominate. He’s now reached the point of diminishing returns in the minor leagues.
We have to play him or trade him – hopefully to a faraway team in the AL, as I don’t want to face him, and I don’t even want to have to watch his success with another team very often.
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by D98 on Dec 15, 2008 10:08 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Pie has the plate discipline of Shawon Dunston. I’d rather they play Fukudome.
Joey Gaithright would be down the list just between Damon Buford and Todd Dunwoody
as 2009 CF options.
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by aaronb on Dec 15, 2008 12:51 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I'd rather play Dunston than Fukudome. In 2009.
I hate to be so down on Fukudome, but I don’t think that I’ve ever seen an MLB corner OF look that overmatched before.
He looked like an AL pitcher getting his first-ever AB in some interleague game. For about 3 straight months.
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by D98 on Dec 15, 2008 3:04 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Speaking of non-tenders...
…perhaps the Cubs should look into Chris Capuano. He’s may never be a starter again after Tommy John surgery, but in his career lefties have only hit .232/.295/.324 against him – move him to the bullpen and he could make a good, inexpensive LOOGY.
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by hip2bsquare on Dec 13, 2008 11:55 AM CST reply actions 1 recs
A reasonable idea.
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by Al on Dec 13, 2008 11:56 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Actually...
looking over that list, Daniel Cabrera is extremely interesting. High risk, high reward. You’d like to think that more than a few teams are going to line up to make an offer, thinking that they can fix him.
And I still wouldn’t mind the Cubs kicking the tires on Ty Wigginton. I could easily see him filling that super-utility role that Lou keeps trying to stick DeRosa with.
by Damen Jackson on Dec 13, 2008 1:27 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Like Ty
Someone I thought about earlier, but was afraid to post my thoughts since he’s RH. He’s got some stick, could be a good PH if nothing else.
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by Bildo1805 on Dec 13, 2008 2:27 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Like I said...
… if Wigginton were LH, he’d have been signed in two seconds.
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by Al on Dec 13, 2008 2:50 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I like Capuano and Cabrera both
Cabrera is a great option to start the year as a 5th starter for us, with Samardzija down in AAA, readying himself to start.
The author of this post is not a certified scout, doctor, agent, statistician, manager, or journalist, nor was he ever a very good player, though he tried very hard to be like Ryne Sandberg and was about as scrappy as it gets (in T-ball). Any opinion expressed above should in no way be confused with fact, truth, or reality and is hereby qualified in the following ways: 1) The author does not know as much about baseball as Lou Piniella. 2) The author does not know as much about baseball as Jim Hendry. 3) The author does not know as much about baseball as either Dusty or Darren Baker.
by DGU on Dec 13, 2008 3:20 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Cabrera
The scary thing is the decrease in strikeouts and increase in hits allowed with only a small improvement in walks. In 2 years from a strikeout an inning to 1every two innings.
2006: IP – 148, K – 157, H – 130
2007: IP – 204, K – 166, H – 207
2008: IP – 180, K – 95, H – 199
Prior to 2008, he was inconsistent but showed something. His biggest problem was control. Last season, he was just bad. I’d only sign him to start him in AAA.
Depending on physical health, I’d look at Chuck James first.
by rlpete on Dec 13, 2008 3:30 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Good points.
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by DGU on Dec 13, 2008 3:51 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Chuck James
is worth a look. He’ll be 27 next year and had ERA+ of 118 and 100 in 2006 and 2007 before last season’s problems. Not sure what the physical status is though.
by rlpete on Dec 13, 2008 3:20 PM CST reply actions 1 recs
Sounds like
his shoulder will keep him out for 2009. Could be a reclamation project, like Dempster was, for 2010.
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by Trey2317 on Dec 13, 2008 3:31 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, that's what the article said
Quick Chuck James story: In 2006, he was in Richmond, pitching for the Braves AAA affiliate. During a rain delay, he and Peter Moylan were sitting in the dugout, talking to fans and trying to figure out where to go out in Indianapolis that night. These kids next to the dugout kept pestering him for autographs, t-shirts, etc., so James signed a couple, then the kids asked for some gum. James grabbed a piece that had been sitting next to a drain, asked the kid if he wanted it, then handed it to the kid. Where the kid promptly threw it in his mouth, grossing out Chuck James.
I have no idea what the point of the story is, but that’s my report on Chuck James.
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by Trey2317 on Dec 13, 2008 3:42 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Pass the Bottle -- Pleeezz !!
I must not have received my invitation — it seems some of you got yours and been into the good stuff this afternoon.
Gathright, Chuck James, Wigginton ???
You guys are kidding — you aren’t really serious?
Give me a couple of hits — I’ll even throw these guys out for consideration — or throw them out period - CP
Kenny Rogers, Damian Easley, Craig Counsell, Sidney Ponson, Julian Tavarez, Greg Norton, and last but not least -- I do not think I have to spell it out but if you are unsure, his brother was traded by the Cubs to the A’s in the Rich Harden deal. one more — a good backup — Michael Barrett.
Oh -
Enjoy the funfest !!!
by ceegeewow on Dec 13, 2008 4:51 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
RF
It sounds like Milton Bradley will be in RF and Kosuke moved to CF, which would be much better than anything bantered about here. Let Pie battle Kosuke for CF, with Johnson spelling Soriano or whomever when they need it.
by jballgame on Dec 13, 2008 5:40 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Are You Serious??
That would be one pf the worst outfields in all of baseball. Fukudome can’t hit, Reed Johnson is below average defensively as a centerfielder, and we all know Soriano is awful in left. Gathright is fast but can’t steal first base, and has only one homer in over 1100 ABs.
by rememberthecoop on Dec 13, 2008 10:43 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Gathright could be the new Ced Landrum.
Who was, in turn, the new Herb Washington.
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by D98 on Dec 15, 2008 10:10 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
If we signed 3 guys for $6M...
and we have 13 signed total for $121M, can someone please refresh my memory on the other 10 signed for $115M? Or point me to a website with the numbers?
by bison on Dec 13, 2008 11:07 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Here you go.
Carlos Zambrano, $17.75 m
Derrek Lee, $13 m
Aramis Ramirez, $15.65 m
Alfonso Soriano, $16 m
Ted Lilly, $12 m
Ryan Dempster, $8 m (new deal is backloaded)
Jason Marquis, $9.875 m
Kosuke Fukudome, $11.5 m
Rich Harden, $7 m
Mark DeRosa, $5.5 m
That adds up to $116.275 million, pretty close to your $115 m number.
Those are all from the usually accurate source Cot’s Baseball Contracts.
It also lists the recently re-signed Reed Johnson’s 2009 deal as being worth $3m, Chad Gaudin’s at $2m, and Neal Cotts at $1.1m (that’s the $6m you mentioned).
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by Al on Dec 14, 2008 4:39 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs

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