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Wednesday Cubs/MLB Headlines: Financial Edition

I have never professed to be an expert in baseball financial matters. But there is a clue in Jeff Passan's arbitration roundup at Yahoo that may give some insight into why the Cubs didn't offer arbitration to Kerry Wood (or, for that matter, to any of their other compensation-eligible free agents):

OK, so Arizona doesn’t want to get stuck with Adam Dunn next season at the $15 million or so he’d get through arbitration. Fine. It’s a short-sighted maneuver not to offer arbitration – he’s bound to get a multi-year deal somewhere – but with the Diamondbacks offering arbitration to Orlando Hudson, Juan Cruz and Brandon Lyon, one scouting director wondered whether it was to avoid a glut of draft choices and the signing bonuses that accompany them.

While two sources dismissed the idea, one pointed out that with Dunn, Hudson and Cruz all Type A players likely to sign elsewhere, it would have left the Diamondbacks with seven high picks, including their own first-rounder, and eight if Lyon doesn’t accept arbitration. According to Baseball America, Arizona spent only $4.49 million on its draft choices last season, the seventh-lowest number in the game.

Now, you'll remember that the Cubs were fined $500,000 last summer for some shenanigans regarding signing certain players above slot recommendations and not reporting those signings on a timely basis. Based on that, perhaps the paradoxical idea that the Cubs wouldn't want the extra draft picks because of the extra money they might cost actually makes some sense. On the other hand, none of this means that the Cubs and Kerry Wood might not still come to agreement on a one year-deal, especially since in the present market, that multi-year contract Jim Hendry told Wood to go out and get might not exist.

We are living in a very different economy, as Passan points out:

Now, though, with advertising reps reporting back to their bosses that sales are hard to come by and teams cringing at the notion of fans’ disposable income shriveling like a raisin, arbitration is a risk. In the process, the team and player either come to an agreed-upon salary – usually more than the previous season – or each side picks a number and allows an impartial arbitrator to choose the player’s salary.

So the idea that the Cubs may want to pare any further payroll increases down -- including the possibility that Jake Peavy's deal isn't affordable financially, never mind the players that might have to be given up -- has less to do with who becomes the new owner of the team and more to do with the shrinking number of advertising dollars that may be coming in for the 2009 season. It's the first week of December, the time when season ticket invoices usually arrive for those of us who have season tickets. We've seen nothing yet, nor any hint (beyond an offhand comment from Jim Hendry on the Score last week that some prices may go up while most stay the same) of what ticket prices will be in 2009.

This isn't just a Cub issue, either. Here's a list of all the free agents this offseason. Only three of them have signed so far: Ryan Dempster re-upped with the Cubs for about market rate; Doug Brocail stayed with his old team, the Astros, also for a reasonable deal; and Jeremy Affeldt, the only one so far to change teams, signed with the Giants for a fairly "modest" $8 million for two years. And of 60 Type A or B free agents, fewer than half -- only 24 -- were offered arbitration. We may all have to adjust our thinking about what the Cubs -- or ANY team -- can and will afford to acquire, either by trade or free agency, this offseason. As Passan points out:

[Bobby] Abreu, for example, made $16 million last season. Though his numbers have declined, he would stand to make about $17 million through arbitration. And while that was a fair amount in the past, even New York couldn’t stomach it this year.

The Yankees scrimping. This really is a recession.

Finally, the Biz of Baseball site posted yesterday the breakdown of postseason shares by team. Here's what the Cubs got and handed out:

Chicago Cubs (Share of Players’ Pool: $1,534,779.83; value of each full share: $25,032.89) – The Cubs awarded 50 full shares, 11.03 partial shares and five cash awards.

The shares are usually voted on by the players themselves. I'm guessing the partial shares went to players like Matt Murton and Sean Gallagher who were traded, or guys like Kevin Hart and Neal Cotts, who spent part of the year in the minors.

Let's hope they have larger shares -- like the $351.504.48 per full share that the champion Phillies gave out -- to distribute in 2009.

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The Yankees...........

………..may not be strapped, per se, but instead are looking to have enough cash on hand to lure Sabathia to the Bronx.

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by tville on Dec 3, 2008 8:40 AM CST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I wonder.

That offer was pretty generous. I wonder why Sabathia’s waiting. It’s not going to get any bigger.

"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al on Dec 3, 2008 8:44 AM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

No, like whether he'd rather play in California.

The thing is, there don’t seem to be any offers by teams out there.

"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al on Dec 3, 2008 9:36 AM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

In-N-Out

is in Cali.

What to do, with Larry Hughe?

by Rudey on Dec 3, 2008 10:17 AM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

There are a couple

of Inn-N-Out Burger locations that are close to Hohokam Park.

http://www.in-n-out.com/

I’m just sayin’…

by azjazzman on Dec 4, 2008 12:54 AM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I thought the Angels were getting ready to make a bid

and supposedly the Giants too. They both probably won’t be as much as Yankees, but could be close. And seriously, after the first 100M, does it really matter? Yeah, I know it matters to the players association, but there are times when somebody needs to give the MLBPA a mental enema – this is probably one of them.

btw, I know CC likes to hit, but I’d be hardpressed to pick the Giants over the Angels, just by looking at the organizations as a whole.

Lou Brown: "My kinda team, Charlie, my kinda team..."

by ballhawk on Dec 3, 2008 11:16 AM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

As a whole, yes,

but CC is from Oakland, which might help the Giants’ case. Also, a rotation of Sabathia, Lincecum and Cain isn’t a bad way to start…

I love to play baseball. I'm a baseball player. I've always been a baseball player. I'm still a baseball player. That's who I am. - Ryne Sandberg

by Trey2317 on Dec 3, 2008 11:41 AM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Also, remember the offer the Angels made to Tori Hunter last year?

That seemed to come out of the blue and whammo, Tori was an Angel.

Some teams don’t broadcast their business in the paper so just because we haven’t read it anywhere doesn’t mean there isn’t interest by any number of teams or offers that have been made.

Hey, it's a new century!

by cowsarecool220 on Dec 3, 2008 11:41 AM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

EXACTLY!!

This is why the Cubs could be working on deals we know nothing about. Usually, it’s the biggest rumors that never happen (cough Roberts cough).

"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al on Dec 3, 2008 12:07 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

The Yankee offer, if it were to be taken

would be CC’s last big score. He’s 28 now. A 6-yr deal will mean he’s 35 in the first year of the deal afterwards. Too old on the surface for many offers to be relatively large.

Remember what Furcal did in 05/06. He took less overall money from the Dodgers ($39M) for only 3 years than the Cubs ($50M) for 5 years, coincidently at age 28; with the thought he’d have a better chance to score one more big deal at age 31 instead of age 33.

My thinking is CC could be looking for a higher per year average (higher than the Yankees) from a team he’d want to go to (this is important also) but for lesser number of years. With the Giants on the hook for that Alcatraz of a contract in Zito they may not bit but perhaps the Angels could offer CC something like $80 for 3 years…just a different play of the numbers.

Sweet Lou for Mayor in '11.

by blackhawk24 on Dec 3, 2008 12:50 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Or maybe the Yanks realize that Nady is a better player now,

and that they also are stuck with Damon and Matsui as COFs.

"I've never complained about it. I'm thankful to have a jersey." Mark DeRosa, 22 Aug 2007

by DeRoMyHero on Dec 3, 2008 12:20 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Perhaps to help Kerry?

Apologies if this theory has already been offered, but the management may have withheld arbitration in order to help Kerry get that multi-year contract elsewhere. Offering KW arbitration would effectively raise the cost of signing him, as the signing team would have to sacrifice draft picks. Since the Cubs didn’t offer KW arbitration the signing team no longer has this worry, and thus may be more willing to splurge on him.

Maybe they were really just trying to help the guy?

by MikeIowa on Dec 3, 2008 8:48 AM CST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

At the same time...

… Passan’s story, plus what’s happened so far, hint that such a deal might NOT be out there at all.

"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al on Dec 3, 2008 8:57 AM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

That might work out brilliantly for Hendry

If KW is still unsigned on May 1 then Hendry can ride in like a white knight, regretfully tell Kerry that tehy did everything they could to clear the way for a big money contract, then offer him the little one-year deal that he has had in mind all along.

I’m starting to feel like a conspiracy theorist.

by MikeIowa on Dec 3, 2008 9:08 AM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I'll wear this particular tinfoil hat along with you.

"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al on Dec 3, 2008 9:37 AM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

The only way I see that scenario happening

is if there indeed is another round of collusion going on with the owners.

Don’t you think some team will offer Woody a guaranteed MLB offer of at least 1 year? Not gettting an offer would be the only reason he would still be available on May 1st and I simply don’t see that happening.

Hey, it's a new century!

by cowsarecool220 on Dec 3, 2008 11:44 AM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Never mind

Just saw Al’s post below.

by elgato on Dec 3, 2008 9:50 AM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Woody will be signed before ST

by the Cubs or someone else. The only questions are who? and how much?

May 1st went out with the last CBA.

"I've never complained about it. I'm thankful to have a jersey." Mark DeRosa, 22 Aug 2007

by DeRoMyHero on Dec 3, 2008 12:23 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Question

Al you stated:

On the other hand, none of this means that the Cubs and Kerry Wood might not still come to agreement on a one year-deal, especially since in the present market, that multi-year contract Jim Hendry told Wood to go out and get might not exist.

Does that mean Wood could still end up back in Chicago? I got the impression that by refusing Arbitration, that meant the door was closed on signing Wood for the upcoming season.

by digitalbenjamin on Dec 3, 2008 8:54 AM CST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Those rules changed

The old “have to wait until May 1st” is gone. Cubs can still negotiate.

by rlpete on Dec 3, 2008 8:55 AM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Correct.

"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al on Dec 3, 2008 8:58 AM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I don't believe so.

"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al on Dec 3, 2008 9:59 AM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I know you were speculating

or at least the story writer was, but it is extremely short sighted to not offer arbitration because a sandwich pick is too expensive. I cannot imagine that this was the Cub’s motivation. Or if it was I am very sad. With decisions like this, it may be a while between world series titles. Oh yeah.

by gocubsgo22 on Dec 3, 2008 10:24 AM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

You're thinking in the past.

I think the economic troubles are hitting the baseball industry hard. It’s not just the Cubs.

"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al on Dec 3, 2008 10:26 AM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

It's Not Collusion

The economy was a lot better back during the winter of 1986-87, when Andre Dawson, Tim Raines, and Kirk Gibson were free agents. Thank God for Dawson willing to give a blank check to the Cubs. The reasons for the lack of lucrative free agent signings this year are legitimately financial.

"The big possum walks late." - Harry Caray

by memphiscub on Dec 3, 2008 11:10 AM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

So what is the rule now?

They didn’t offer arb but they can still negotiate any kind of deal?

Sweet Lou for Mayor in '11.

by blackhawk24 on Dec 3, 2008 12:41 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

the old rules...

… also gave both sides some time to negotiate, I believe. The deadline to offer arbitration may have been Dec 1st (for example) but both sides had another week or so to negotiate, and if a deal was not reached the deadline, they could not sign until May 1st.

by dmlichte on Dec 3, 2008 9:17 AM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I didn't realise that the May 1 rule is gone

Now things make a lot more sense. I think that unless there is a big multi-year deal out there, Kerry will be back in Chicago.

Cubs Win!! Cubs Win!

by Ihatethecards on Dec 3, 2008 9:50 AM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

And I don't see that big multiyear deal for him.

Do you?

"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al on Dec 3, 2008 9:59 AM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Fortunately for us only K-Rod will get the big deal

and I think Wood will be more productive over the course of K-Rod’s contract w/ the mets

Derrick Rose-2009 ROTY Tyrus Thomas-2009 MIP...hope I'm at least half right

by CHCOWNTHECENTRAL on Dec 3, 2008 11:36 AM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

It will be interesting to see how the closer market shakes out

as there now seems to be a glut of closers on the free agent market and via trade.

Hey, it's a new century!

by cowsarecool220 on Dec 3, 2008 11:46 AM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I agree Al

I don’t see anything better than 3 years, maybe $20 million total.

Cubs Win!! Cubs Win!

by Ihatethecards on Dec 3, 2008 12:43 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Time for a poll?

What will Kerry sign for?

Cubs Win!! Cubs Win!

by Ihatethecards on Dec 3, 2008 12:47 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I hope I'm wrong

But I think he’s gone. I suppose if they get all the other priorities done and still have room in the budget, it’s possible he comes back. I just think that this was a baseball decision, not a monetary one.

Bruce Miles offered an interesting take on it in his blog earlier this week.

Facts are meaningless. You could use facts to prove anything that's even remotely true! --Homer J. Simpson

by Shanghai Badger on Dec 3, 2008 3:02 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Economy and spots teams

Outside of the top players I suspect there are going to be a few surprising FA bargains. It wouldn’t surprise me if Dunn gets signed for a smaller deal than most people expected.

The economic problems are impacting sports teams. I saw something the other day that NBA attendance is down but TV viewership is up. People are staying home and watching on TV. Many corporations are cutting ad budgets and other discretionary spending which means no corporate box seats and sky boxes. As Al says, wait until the season ticket invoices go out and teams see the number that are not renewing.

As I said yesterday, I’m sure Hendry is working on a very hard salary cap. People can say it is only $3 or $ 4 million more for Wood but the point is that he can’t spend the extra $3 or $4 million.

I still won’t be surprised if Wood is back. I’m still waiting until the whole picture becomes clear (including what opportunities have been missed) before declaring Hendry the worst GM is baseball history as it appears a few people wanted to do in the past few days.

by rlpete on Dec 3, 2008 9:11 AM CST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I wonder how hard the Tribune Co is hit by the advertising dollars being pulled by many companies.

My guess is really hard as they were already in financial trouble even before the recession started.

That may also be affecting the budget the Cubs have to work with.

Hey, it's a new century!

by cowsarecool220 on Dec 3, 2008 11:48 AM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I dont know that $$ was the determining factor in the NYY/Abreu split...

Perhaps theyve wised up and decided not to give a guy his age and declining stats, power numbers anyway, a deal beyond 2-3 years.

Okay, just so I understand it... in your wildest fantasy, you are in hell. And you are co-running a bed and breakfast with the devil.

by bren on Dec 3, 2008 9:23 AM CST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Yet another rason the Cubs should steer clear of Abreu.

"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al on Dec 3, 2008 9:38 AM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Agreed

Okay, just so I understand it... in your wildest fantasy, you are in hell. And you are co-running a bed and breakfast with the devil.

by bren on Dec 3, 2008 12:48 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

There's somethng about Abreu that I simply don't like.

I prefer a player that gives me the impression that he will do whatever it takes to win the game that day. Take Reed Johnson, if winning the game requires him to crash into the way, he will do so. Abreu has shown that he is not willing to do things such as crash into a wall.

The intangible “it” seems to be missing in Abreu. I would prefer the Cubs take a pass on him.

Hey, it's a new century!

by cowsarecool220 on Dec 3, 2008 1:24 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

+1

"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al on Dec 3, 2008 1:46 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

this was a while ago, but I remember reading somewhere

that Abreu made it known he wanted to stay in NY and would gladly accept arbitration. Whether or not he’d actually forgo a multi-year deal to stay in NY for one year is debateable, but it could have been enough for Yankees to forgo the potential for draft picks and not offer arb.

Lou Brown: "My kinda team, Charlie, my kinda team..."

by ballhawk on Dec 3, 2008 11:23 AM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Speaking of skyboxes...

… that’s where teams make their biggest dollars. If corporate people are cancelling skyboxes, teams will be hurting.

"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al on Dec 3, 2008 10:00 AM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

this will effect the new stadium more---especially the New York's

Houston’s, Giants, Seattle, Cardinals, Detroit’s, Phillies, Baltimore’s, D-Backs and Rox as they are new stadium clubs who vested heavily in their cash flow with this micro market.

Sky Box’s have a country club member finance package: Annual box license, minimum food/beverage charge, season ticket group sales and often other memberships like to another club, parking fees they are million to multi-million dollar packages. Then there are add-on’s where above the minimum food/beverage stuff comes additional premium stuff and when you are entertaining guests can be demanding placing souvenirs on the tab et cetera et cetera.

Another sign will be the CBOE seats the Cubs came up with last year. Then the in house scalping program.

Piniella: "This is a tougher job than I thought it would be, I'm going to be honest with you."

by Ivy Walls on Dec 3, 2008 11:06 AM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Rec'd

Very well summarized. This off-season may be unlike any we’ve seen before. Teams that give themselves the most flexibility may come out ahead.

by rlpete on Dec 3, 2008 10:05 AM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Furcal

I think the demand is high enough for a couple players, such as Furcal, that the Cubs may not find players like that just falling into their laps. Teams like SanFran and Oakland are realizing how open their divisions are and they saw how the Cubs invested money and won some division titles. I doubt Furcal is coming to the Cubs, and certainly not for cheap, though I hope I am wrong.

by dr stabbingworth on Dec 3, 2008 10:52 AM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Hopefully Furcal realizes

that we will likely be more competitive but I’m sure he still won’t be a bargain. I hope Hendry is willing to spend aa few dollars on a legit leadoff/SS

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by CHCOWNTHECENTRAL on Dec 3, 2008 11:40 AM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

It doesn't sound like that's the priority.

I get the impression the top offensive priority is a power hitting left handed hitter. It sounds like Furcal is out of the Cubs price range.

Hey, it's a new century!

by cowsarecool220 on Dec 3, 2008 11:52 AM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

For some reason, they love the Riot at SS

I think a switch to his natural position would fix everything. I’m getting pretty tired of the “Lou demands this, Lou demands that” crap.

by dr stabbingworth on Dec 3, 2008 12:14 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

They only have to pay the Riot the minimum.

That is definitely attractive to most teams.

Hey, it's a new century!

by cowsarecool220 on Dec 3, 2008 12:26 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

There are two reasons why the Cubs won't move the Riot to 2B:

1. Mark DeRosa. DeRo is a better player in every category — including baserunning. No way will the Cubs bench DeRo to move Riot to 2B.

2. Riot’s bat would be more exposed at 2B. Teams expect more offense from their 2B than from their SS. A 93 OPS+ in a “good” year won’t cut it at 2B. If he can’t stick at SS, he isn’t an everyday player. Since Lou wants him to play every day, he has to play SS.

"I've never complained about it. I'm thankful to have a jersey." Mark DeRosa, 22 Aug 2007

by DeRoMyHero on Dec 3, 2008 12:34 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I don't know if I agree with that second point...

Looking at who I consider the top 2B (Utley, Uggla, Kinsler, Phillips, Roberts, DeRo, Pedroia) vs the top SS (Hanley, Reyes, Pheralta, Rollins, Tejada) the numbers seem to be pretty even…I don’t know how you can say teams “expect more offense from their 2B.”

Brian McRae's 5 o'clock shadow

by PurpleLineToWrigley on Dec 3, 2008 12:45 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Let’s face it a lot of the broadcast rights in MLB is a loose world of local market which is driven by the car industry—-national ads and dealers. The auto industry is going into a Depression and eventual transformation through shrinkage[…]

Does that mean no more Bob Rohrman ads? ‘Cause I love that guy’s ads….

I don’t see broadcasting revenue dropping much. People will still watch baseball; the market share won’t drop much, so advertising revenue won’t drop much. Somebody else will come in and buy the time the car dealers and manufacturers aren’t. And Chevy will still sponsor the Cubs and be the cars that everybody but Pat drives. (What does Pat drive? A Ford? A Toyota? A Studebaker?)

And since MLB kept all the internet revenue for themselves (which is why you can’t stream a Cubs game on WGN’s website), even if fewer people subscribe to their service, the teams won’t see a hit (unless it happens after the season during the distribution of MLB’s excess cash inflow).

At this point, I just don’t see the clubs — at least not the big clubs — taking a hit in the broadcast revenues portion of the budget. (Al, if you have some sweet insider info or opinion about this issue, I’d be very interested in hearing it.)

by znohitter on Dec 3, 2008 11:55 AM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I don't have any insider info, but...

… like every other business, MLB’s “extras” may take a hit. It’s possible that there will be fewer EI subscribers or MLB.TV subscribers in 2009, unless the powers that be realize this and cut the price.

"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al on Dec 3, 2008 12:09 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

High Time to Lift Blackout Restrictions?

If MLB is trying to retain EI subscriptions, it would behoove them to lift the blackout restrictions. That’s not going to happen for next season.

"The big possum walks late." - Harry Caray

by memphiscub on Dec 3, 2008 12:17 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Don't forget about the mess the financial industry is in.

Banks are big sponsors of teams. Both National City and WaMu were sponsors of the Cubs ahave been acquired by other banks in the offseason.

Hey, it's a new century!

by cowsarecool220 on Dec 3, 2008 12:28 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I don't think it would happen

but it would certainly be weird to see Ryne Sandberg doing ads for PNC Bank (which bought National City), since PNC owns the naming rights to PNC Park in Pittsburgh.

However, I am thankful to not hear those “WaMu, woo-hoo!” ads on the PA at Wrigley anymore.

I love to play baseball. I'm a baseball player. I've always been a baseball player. I'm still a baseball player. That's who I am. - Ryne Sandberg

by Trey2317 on Dec 3, 2008 12:33 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

It was high time to lift blackout restrictions in about 1990.

It’s virtually impossible to get a baseball game on a major network here in Des Moines. I just know I won’t be getting ANY video service of MLB’s until the “local viewing areas” get trimmed down to a reasonable size (like the 50 mile radio areas).

by znohitter on Dec 3, 2008 5:53 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   1 recs

Rec'd

"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al on Dec 3, 2008 6:51 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I agree on the arb portion...

…as it relates to Dunn. The snakes didn’t want to be on the hook for $15M if they lost their arb hearing. Likewise, the Cubs didn’t want to be on the hook for say $10M if they lost a Woody arb hearing. They didn’t even want it to get that far and Hendry said all the right things in allowing Woody to hunt for the better deal elsewhere.

The draft pick thing is ludicrous. Many times I’ve thought this author took one too many hits on the pipe, and this is another example. Teams would absolutely love to have a great-potential kid fall in their laps. And deliberately not offering arb just because of getting extra pick(s) is just plain stupid. Even if a team thinks they didn’t want to sign a “sure-thing” pick, they could use that as leverage in a trade with another team that did want the “sure-thing” pick.

Sweet Lou for Mayor in '11.

by blackhawk24 on Dec 3, 2008 12:37 PM CST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Not so fast

A few years ago, the Giants signed free agents before the arbitration decision to intentionally lose their high draft picks.

by rlpete on Dec 3, 2008 12:46 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

that doesn't make sense

elaborate please…

Sweet Lou for Mayor in '11.

by blackhawk24 on Dec 3, 2008 1:28 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

See discussion here...

http://www.baseballamerica.com/today/columnists/askba04nov.html

It says: “San Francisco signed Michael Tucker before the deadline to offer arbitration last year—if teams don’t offer arbitration, they don’t get compensation—so the Royals would make that offer after the fact and spare the Giants of having to spend on a first-round pick in 2004.”

They basically signed Michael Tucker before the Royals had to decide on offering arbitration. That way it was a no-brainer, the Royals could get the Giants pick if they wanted it by offering Tucker arbitration and knowing he would have to decline it. I believe a similar thing was done with Omar Vizquel.

by rlpete on Dec 3, 2008 3:48 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

How?

You can’t trade picks.

"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al on Dec 3, 2008 1:47 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

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President Ronald Reagan throws out the ceremonial first pitch Sept. 30, 1988, at Wrigley Field before the Chicago Cubs played host to the Pittsburgh Pirates. Reagan later went to the broadcast booth and helped announce the first part of the game.
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Aramis Ramirez and Reed Johnson during warm ups at their rehab assignment with the Peoria Chiefs at Kane County.  Aramis Ramirez missed a home run by about 2 feet at his first at bat and ended up with a stand up double.  He later took a base-on-balls and scored twice. Reed Johnson also had a hit and scored.  Here are the rest of the photos.
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7/3:Cubs vs. Brewers

It's more walk-off magic for the Cubs, when a bases-leaded walk to Jake Fox gives them the 2-1, extra-innings win.

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It's yet another episode of "Outfield Adventures", starring Milton Bradley, as he'd lose this Jason Kendall-hit ball in the sun Friday against the Brewers.


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Jeff Suppan is thrown out by Kosuke Fukudome in the seventh inning of the Cubs 2-1 win.

Or as Kenny Powers would put it, "You're %@$@#!! out!!"

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"Sources tell me Soriano will bat 6 in tomorrows lineup vs....
Buster Olney said a few days ago that the Braves would entertain offers for their 26 year old shortstop (who makes 450k) Yunel Escobar. He is a plus bat, a solid defender, and would move Theriot to his more appropriate position at second.

They are looking for a bat in return. Apparently Cox doesn't like the guy. 

I couldn't even speculate what we'd have to send them in return, but I think he would be a good fit given his low salary, his productive bat, his position, and his age.  I don't care if he's a jerk if he makes the team win more.

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