Howry is a Giant
by Doggie Stalker on Dec 3, 2008 3:04 PM CST
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One year 2.75 million. For those of you who wanted to offer him arbitration ,you really think the Giants were in the mood to give up a draft pick for him ? I sincerely wish him all the luck against anyone besides the Cubs. I think he can rebound just as Eyre did when He gets in a situation where he will be used correctly and not abused. He gave us two very good years.
Sorry my links NEVER work but try cutting and pasting
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2008/baseball/mlb/12/03/giants.howry.ap/index.html
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DAMN!
But seriously, I don’t know how much he has left in the tank. This year had to have messed with his head. I don’t know if he will be able to be a solid reliever next year for any length of time.
by EJThunder on Dec 3, 2008 3:07 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
I for one will not miss him.
Evey Hammond: Vi Veri Veniversum Vivus Vici. V: By the power of truth, I, while living, have conquered the universe.
by dtpollitt on Dec 3, 2008 3:10 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
YOU SAID IT!
Thank the good Lord above…Howry’s stink has left the building!
Kwa...Ki...Sur...Pee...Nee...Ku?
by Kinky Reggae on Dec 3, 2008 5:51 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
My risk of a heart attack just lowered by 95%
"Truth does not do as much good in the world as the semblance of truth does evil," - Duc de La Rochefoucauld, Maxims, 64.
by Emelie on Dec 4, 2008 4:20 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
For those who said there was nothing that needed to be done to this team...
He was the only problem in my mind. Finding someone to replace howry.
"If I were playing third base and my mother were rounding third with the run that was going to beat us, I'd trip her. Oh, I'd pick her up and brush her off and say, 'Sorry, Mom,' but nobody beats me." ~ Leo Durocher
by Musicdude10 on Dec 5, 2008 12:57 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
The only problem? Really?
Yes, yes ... winter is indeed a pond upon which all of us must skate, braving frostbite and runny noses in the hopes that our cars will start and we shan't embarass ourselves slipping on a patch of black ice. Spring is more a quagmire of cold mud and slush, and fall is a pile of fallen leaves that may or may not hide a pile of doggy doo-doo. But summer, ah summer is an oasis of endless green that disappears all too quickly beneath our feet as we rush through its warm, glorious bliss.
by dat cubfan daver on Dec 5, 2008 9:35 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Good Riddance to bad rubbish
Don’t let the door hit you on your way out.
Old Style is the nectar of life.
by Mordecai on Dec 3, 2008 3:11 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Harsh.
Howry gave us 2 very solid years before the wheels fell off last year.
by Wreckard on Dec 3, 2008 3:17 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
And solid years
for that other team from Chicago too, before the injury with Boston. There have been far worse in our bullpen over the years. Agreed — that was harsh.
by StevenABQ on Dec 3, 2008 3:28 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
parts...
… of solid years. For the first month or two of 2006 and 2007 he was not good.
by dmlichte on Dec 3, 2008 3:51 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
The first month or two of 2006?
Do you mean the month where his WHIP was .84 and BAA was .208 or the one where his WHIP was .97 and his BAA was .220?
Players have bad months here and there; it’s called small sample size. You can say “parts of solid years” about any player, if you pick your end points creatively enough.
On the whole, Howry was excellent in 2006 and 2007. Calling him rubbish is lazy revisionism based on his awful 2008.
by Wreckard on Dec 3, 2008 3:57 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
first off...
.. I didn’t call him rubbish. Get a grip.
In 2007 his April ERA/WiHIP/BAA was: 3.65/1.46/.292 and in May it was 6.57/1.62/.314
He stared out well in 2006, though he did have a rough June. But my point is that in 2007 was not always solid and for a healthy chunk of the season he was downright bad. For a large portion of that season he was totally unreliable as a middle reliever.
by dmlichte on Dec 3, 2008 4:12 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Whoops, sorry - mistook you for the original poster
by Wreckard on Dec 3, 2008 4:28 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
no prob...
… I should have noticed the prior post calling him rubbish, too.
I wouldn’t call him rubbish but Howry’s career did take quite a precipitous fall over his time here. He was obviously quite bad this year but he really had some stints, esp during 2007, that were quite the precursor. People want to blame Piniella for his use of Eyre but we tend to forget that there were some real long stints where both Eyre and Howry were just plain awful.
by dmlichte on Dec 3, 2008 5:08 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, rubbish is an innappropriate word.
Seriously. TOTALLY inappropriate and distasteful language. I would call him sucky.
Brian McRae's 5 o'clock shadow
by PurpleLineToWrigley on Dec 3, 2008 4:16 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I agree.
I’ve probably caved in to the temptation to rip on Howry a few times over the past year, but I actually think he’s a class act who, when all is said and done, gave the Cubs a lot of good innings. He just had an awful 2008 and, like most Cubs fans, I had a really hard time watching him out there. I wish him the best in San Fran. It’ll be interesting to keep an eye on him.
"I see I'm not the only one around here who can't hold his water." - Last words of the leaky pipe in the visiting team dugout, Dodger Stadium, October 4, 2008.
by dat cubfan daver on Dec 4, 2008 9:55 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Read the heading and was hoping for humor and a fill in the blank.
Howry is a Giant __________.
Seems like a decent enough guy. Happy not to see him pitch for the Cubs anymore.
But the wind blew me back via Chicago, In the middle of the night
by N Oakley on Dec 3, 2008 3:11 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.
by santoswoodenlegs on Dec 3, 2008 3:14 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
This was the beginning of the end
Had this shirt been approved, he would have had a great season and been welcomed back with open arms . . .
Facts are meaningless. You could use facts to prove anything that's even remotely true! --Homer J. Simpson
by Shanghai Badger on Dec 3, 2008 3:15 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Lyinggggggg beside you...
Evey Hammond: Vi Veri Veniversum Vivus Vici. V: By the power of truth, I, while living, have conquered the universe.
by dtpollitt on Dec 3, 2008 3:16 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
The only thing better
Would have been you linking a wav or mp3 of you actually singing
Facts are meaningless. You could use facts to prove anything that's even remotely true! --Homer J. Simpson
by Shanghai Badger on Dec 3, 2008 6:15 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
That'll be my new secret weapon for the 2009 season...
…ya know we fans have to train during the off-season, too!
Dan
Evey Hammond: Vi Veri Veniversum Vivus Vici. V: By the power of truth, I, while living, have conquered the universe.
by dtpollitt on Dec 3, 2008 7:37 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Now I really can't wait for the season to start . . .
Facts are meaningless. You could use facts to prove anything that's even remotely true! --Homer J. Simpson
by Shanghai Badger on Dec 3, 2008 7:51 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
My thoughts exactly.
If one of us had been able to slip Bobby that t-shirt, his whole ‘08 season could’ve turned out differently. Alas, of all the words of mouth and pen yadda yadda…
"I see I'm not the only one around here who can't hold his water." - Last words of the leaky pipe in the visiting team dugout, Dodger Stadium, October 4, 2008.
by dat cubfan daver on Dec 4, 2008 9:52 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
The Giants first round pick is protected.
The author of this post is not a certified scout, doctor, agent, statistician, manager, or journalist, nor was he ever a very good player, though he tried very hard to be like Ryne Sandberg and was about as scrappy as it gets (in T-ball). Any opinion expressed above should in no way be confused with fact, truth, or reality and is hereby qualified in the following ways: 1) The author does not know as much about baseball as Lou Piniella. 2) The author does not know as much about baseball as Jim Hendry. 3) The author does not know as much about baseball as either Dusty or Darren Baker.
by DGU on Dec 3, 2008 3:24 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
why would they want to lose ANY pick
for Howry and I would NEVER have given Lou the chance to tell Hendry to keep him.
"I am not ashamed to say I love Greg Maddux" - Jim Hendry
by Doggie Stalker on Dec 3, 2008 3:27 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Good luck to the Giants.
"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx
by Al on Dec 3, 2008 3:33 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Sorry, didn't finish that one.
They’re going to need it.
"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx
by Al on Dec 3, 2008 3:33 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
That shows just how desperate the Giants are....
Oh Baby!
by cubswgnrocks on Dec 3, 2008 3:38 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
He will probably throw decent
in the Bay, not really a hitters park, same division as the Padres, and LA also good pitchers parks. So good luck to him.
The three games I went to in August Howry was the only guy who signed autographs after each game. Good guy
He had two decent years and last year, well it was bad.
"Have You heard of the Boom on Mizar 5?"
by Grockcubs on Dec 3, 2008 3:40 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Well...
I am sure that he will rebound since a majority of his games will take place in ballparks the size of the Grand Canyon.
I for one will miss seeing his lovely wife at the convention…
"When two Whales Fight, many Shrimp Die" - Korean Proverb
by TheRiot Police on Dec 3, 2008 3:40 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
That seems like a lot of money
for a guy that has trouble getting outs. Good luck Bob & Giants
Cubs Win!! Cubs Win!
by Ihatethecards on Dec 3, 2008 3:41 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
All he needs now is
a little dog named Checkers and he can give a speech on WGN or WLS and tell us we won’t have Howry to kick around anymore—unless, of course, we are playing the Giants.
Time is an illusion--lunch time doubly so.
by snowyman28 on Dec 3, 2008 3:48 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
I think there's a good chance Howry will rebound next year
and I imagine that’s what the Giants are betting on. I think the warm weather may allow Bobby to get off to a better start to the season.
I always respected Howry as he conducted himself with the utmost class no matter if things were going well or not so well. I will never foget how he never so much as flinched when that fan ran on to the field and ran right at him. Talk about nerves of steel!
Good Luck and best wishes!
Hey, it's a new century!
by cowsarecool220 on Dec 3, 2008 3:56 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
I wouldn't call it "warmer weather"
San Francisco is notoriously cool. When the Cubs were out there last summer, most people in the stands looked like they were dressed for a brisk day in November.
by Not Bruce Froemming on Dec 4, 2008 12:27 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
True in the summer.
But it’s still likely warmer in April there than it is in Chicago.
"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx
by Al on Dec 4, 2008 12:44 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
True
I guess it’s basically the same weather — relatively cool-ish — all year long.
by Not Bruce Froemming on Dec 4, 2008 1:50 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Well, speaking as a ballhawk...
I’m sure gonna miss him. ;-)
Lou Brown: "My kinda team, Charlie, my kinda team..."
by ballhawk on Dec 3, 2008 3:57 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
HO!
Facts are meaningless. You could use facts to prove anything that's even remotely true! --Homer J. Simpson
by Shanghai Badger on Dec 3, 2008 6:16 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
HU!
You know… Hu’s on first, er, short…
"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx
by Al on Dec 3, 2008 9:10 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Watt’s on second? (But only for one game!)
by znohitter on Dec 3, 2008 9:23 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
wait Who?
"Charles Tillman is one of the best strippers in the NFL" - John Madden 11/30/08 Chicago Bears vs. Minnesota Vikings game
by Chanman25 on Dec 3, 2008 9:54 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
The Who
"Truth does not do as much good in the world as the semblance of truth does evil," - Duc de La Rochefoucauld, Maxims, 64.
by Emelie on Dec 4, 2008 4:24 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Speaking of which...
… the comedy group Credibility Gap once did a takeoff on “Who’s on First” using the names of rock bands. Pretty funny.
"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx
by Al on Dec 4, 2008 8:46 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I'm thinking Lou could hold an entire press conference answering in Who lyrics
The kids are alright (talking about Marmol and Soto)
Won’t get fooled again (after pulling Z in game 1 of the playoffs)
People try to put us down (after losing two straight first round playoff series)
How do you think he does it? I don’t know. (on LBR’s power stroke)
You better, you better you bet (is Theriot his starting shortstop)
It’s only teen age wasteland (farm system)
I want it, I want it, I want it… (a LH power bat)
and of course, this classic,
Who the &$%# are you? (directed at [insert your favorite local media personality here]…)
Lou Brown: "My kinda team, Charlie, my kinda team..."
by ballhawk on Dec 4, 2008 9:00 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
And don't forget...
…“The Pitcher Ted Lilly” (sung to the tune of "Pictures of Lily’). I swear I’m going to get off my ass and write and record this tribute song before Lilly’s contract is up. OK, I don’t swear, but I really want to.
"I see I'm not the only one around here who can't hold his water." - Last words of the leaky pipe in the visiting team dugout, Dodger Stadium, October 4, 2008.
by dat cubfan daver on Dec 4, 2008 9:47 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Facts are meaningless. You could use facts to prove anything that's even remotely true! --Homer J. Simpson
by Shanghai Badger on Dec 4, 2008 2:25 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Ms. Noble, have the bullpen get Marmol up...
by znohitter on Dec 4, 2008 2:39 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Nicely done
Facts are meaningless. You could use facts to prove anything that's even remotely true! --Homer J. Simpson
by Shanghai Badger on Dec 4, 2008 3:01 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Who?
My next sig line quote will also be from Lou Piniella, and the first word will be either "Look", or "Listen", followed by a comma.
by JohnM on Dec 4, 2008 4:28 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Howe
Facts are meaningless. You could use facts to prove anything that's even remotely true! --Homer J. Simpson
by Shanghai Badger on Dec 4, 2008 2:27 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Howe
Yes, yes ... winter is indeed a pond upon which all of us must skate, braving frostbite and runny noses in the hopes that our cars will start and we shan't embarass ourselves slipping on a patch of black ice. Spring is more a quagmire of cold mud and slush, and fall is a pile of fallen leaves that may or may not hide a pile of doggy doo-doo. But summer, ah summer is an oasis of endless green that disappears all too quickly beneath our feet as we rush through its warm, glorious bliss.
by dat cubfan daver on Dec 4, 2008 3:27 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Any Maddux updates?
This doesn’t deserve it’s own post, but I was wondering if there’s been any official word from Maddux that he is retired. The last I heard is that Boras said that Maddux probably would retire but that he hasn’t completely ruled out pitching in ‘09. If there hasn’t been any word by now, that would lead me to believe that he’s still thinking about pitching in ‘09 and that he’s just seeing what might come through via free agency before he makes his final decision.
Formerly NO100
by jerry morales rules on Dec 3, 2008 4:22 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
He is very much leaning towards retiring
but has not officially decided so I am still holding out hope.
"I am not ashamed to say I love Greg Maddux" - Jim Hendry
by Doggie Stalker on Dec 3, 2008 4:37 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Mike Maddux gave an interview on XM's MLB Home Plate channel today
and said he had talked to Mad Dog about whether or not he was going to retire but he wouldn’t say what the decision was or whether or not it had even been made. He said he would leave that up to Greg to announce.
Hey, it's a new century!
by cowsarecool220 on Dec 3, 2008 4:38 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Worthwhile information...Thanks Mike Maddux.
Brian McRae's 5 o'clock shadow
by PurpleLineToWrigley on Dec 3, 2008 4:39 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
FYI both Colletti and Towers
Have said they would love to have him back. IF he decides to play another year I would assume it would be with the Dodgers.
One more year Greg . PLEASE !!
"I am not ashamed to say I love Greg Maddux" - Jim Hendry
by Doggie Stalker on Dec 3, 2008 4:45 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Haha, really Jessica? I would have never guessed
you wanted another year! :)
Brian McRae's 5 o'clock shadow
by PurpleLineToWrigley on Dec 3, 2008 4:49 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
That's what you said last year!!!!
"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx
by Al on Dec 3, 2008 9:10 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I DID NOT
You keep saying that. Find me one post where I said that. I assumed he WOULD play next year and wanted MORE years
I will now settle for ONE more.
"I am not ashamed to say I love Greg Maddux" - Jim Hendry
by Doggie Stalker on Dec 4, 2008 8:57 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I think you TOLD me that, not posted it.
Unfortunately for you, I don’t think you’re getting the one more year.
"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx
by Al on Dec 4, 2008 9:27 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
A classic Sabean signing.....or I should say a textbook signing
…..the older and more washed up they are, the more Brian is interested in them.
Good luck with that…
New sig currently under construction
by JB 23 on Dec 3, 2008 4:24 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
I'm opening that champagne I had saved for the World Series as we speak...
Whoever said you can't mix business with pleasure never owned a PuttPutt course---Andy Bernard
by carmen_fanzone on Dec 3, 2008 4:30 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
He seemed like a pretty good guy
Good luck to Bobby.
by DunstontoSandbergtoGrace on Dec 3, 2008 4:34 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Sounds like a typical
Giants move….acquire a guy a year too late. The only way this team escapes the NL West basement is because the Padres are alive…and not kickin’….
by San Diego Smooth Jazz Man on Dec 3, 2008 4:48 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
A year too late?
You mean the Giants are getting Howry 2009 when they could have had Howry 2008? I think they’ll take their chances on that one. Now if you meant a year too later from the Cubs point of view….thats true enough, the Cubs might have got something in return a year ago.
by simonuk on Dec 4, 2008 11:38 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
God Bless Us Every One!
The Holidays arrive early…
Proud recipient of a hot dog shot from the Iowa Cubs hot dog gun.
by IowaCubs- on Dec 3, 2008 4:48 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Happy holidays to THIS GUY...Who almost got to Bobby...
Brian McRae's 5 o'clock shadow
by PurpleLineToWrigley on Dec 3, 2008 4:49 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
What an idiot!
Hey, it's a new century!
by cowsarecool220 on Dec 3, 2008 4:54 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
That happened in '07...
…so I think he was from the future, imploring Howry to retire after that season. Just a theory.
"I see I'm not the only one around here who can't hold his water." - Last words of the leaky pipe in the visiting team dugout, Dodger Stadium, October 4, 2008.
by dat cubfan daver on Dec 4, 2008 9:48 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Very good signing
Dave Cameron’s post at fangraphs about it explains it much better than I ever could.
http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/index.php/the-howry-signing/
Now, a good signing doesn’t mean he will succeed, but I like Howry’s chances. The one strike about Howry returning was that the fans had somewhat turned on him, but I wouldn’t be surprised if he had a better 2009 than say, Kevin Gregg.
Although I have to say, the guy who posted in the comment of the Cameron post did note something intriguing in that Howry went to the slider much more last year, so maybe there is something about age catching up to him fast. That said, within this market place, a team that needed pen arms could do much worse than Howry.
They’ve got a nice righty/lefty combo in the pen with Affeldt and Howry. Their bullpen looks better now, which should help that rotation. The purse strings are opening up, so if they can get a big, middle of the order bat, they might just be able to contend in 2009 in the NL West. That said, adding said bat is easier said than done, particularly when they look likely to waste money on Edgar Renteria.
by toonsterwu on Dec 3, 2008 5:04 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Hmm, Howry v. Gregg in '09.
That’ll be a fun game to play. Let’s hope Gregg comes out on top.
"I see I'm not the only one around here who can't hold his water." - Last words of the leaky pipe in the visiting team dugout, Dodger Stadium, October 4, 2008.
by dat cubfan daver on Dec 4, 2008 9:49 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
geez does time really fly
I remember in the 05-06 off season when we signed both Eyre and Howry, in an attempt to reconstruct that disastrous bullpen. Now three years later, both of them are long gone.
"Charles Tillman is one of the best strippers in the NFL" - John Madden 11/30/08 Chicago Bears vs. Minnesota Vikings game
by Chanman25 on Dec 3, 2008 5:07 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
That was a weird time.
Hendry absolutely refused to bid on anyone who could actually make a difference to the squad, but we were stockpiling middle relief pitchers on multi-year deals worth ~$3M annually.
MLBMilestone.com - following the numbers to Cooperstown
by D98 on Dec 3, 2008 5:30 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
He was still trying to make up for 2003
When no bullpen was a bigger cullprit in the NLCS than a certain fan was.
Facts are meaningless. You could use facts to prove anything that's even remotely true! --Homer J. Simpson
by Shanghai Badger on Dec 3, 2008 6:18 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
deals seemed good to me at the time, but I had not as much baseball knowledge as I do now then
"Charles Tillman is one of the best strippers in the NFL" - John Madden 11/30/08 Chicago Bears vs. Minnesota Vikings game
by Chanman25 on Dec 3, 2008 7:26 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
SFs making some moves
Howry, Renteria, perhaps Cantu and making a play for Tex or CC
I also think Howry will outperform Gregg next year
Okay, just so I understand it... in your wildest fantasy, you are in hell. And you are co-running a bed and breakfast with the devil.
by bren on Dec 3, 2008 5:08 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Bombs away!
Piniella: "This is a tougher job than I thought it would be, I'm going to be honest with you."
by Ivy Walls on Dec 3, 2008 5:34 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
or throw gasoline on a fire
Piniella: "This is a tougher job than I thought it would be, I'm going to be honest with you."
by Ivy Walls on Dec 3, 2008 5:35 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
or back to back jacks
Piniella: "This is a tougher job than I thought it would be, I'm going to be honest with you."
by Ivy Walls on Dec 3, 2008 5:36 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
OK, I give up.
How does this image represent “back-to-back jacks”?
Yes, yes ... winter is indeed a pond upon which all of us must skate, braving frostbite and runny noses in the hopes that our cars will start and we shan't embarass ourselves slipping on a patch of black ice. Spring is more a quagmire of cold mud and slush, and fall is a pile of fallen leaves that may or may not hide a pile of doggy doo-doo. But summer, ah summer is an oasis of endless green that disappears all too quickly beneath our feet as we rush through its warm, glorious bliss.
by dat cubfan daver on Dec 4, 2008 11:27 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Jackasses?
"Hats for bats.....keep bats warm." - Pedro Cerrano
"Hey bartender, Jobu needs a refill !!!!!!!" - Eddie Harris
by willie mays hayes' gloves on Dec 4, 2008 11:28 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
But that's a horse, isn't it?
And how do we know that guy is a jackass? He could be a perfectly refined gentleman who, y’know, just enjoys filing hooves in alleyways.
Yes, yes ... winter is indeed a pond upon which all of us must skate, braving frostbite and runny noses in the hopes that our cars will start and we shan't embarass ourselves slipping on a patch of black ice. Spring is more a quagmire of cold mud and slush, and fall is a pile of fallen leaves that may or may not hide a pile of doggy doo-doo. But summer, ah summer is an oasis of endless green that disappears all too quickly beneath our feet as we rush through its warm, glorious bliss.
by dat cubfan daver on Dec 4, 2008 11:33 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I don't know. Maybe IW personally knows the horse and the guy. A personal relationship
gone bad?
"Hats for bats.....keep bats warm." - Pedro Cerrano
"Hey bartender, Jobu needs a refill !!!!!!!" - Eddie Harris
by willie mays hayes' gloves on Dec 4, 2008 11:41 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Something tells me...
…he’ll be posting a 1,000-word Fanpost on the subject any second now.
Yes, yes ... winter is indeed a pond upon which all of us must skate, braving frostbite and runny noses in the hopes that our cars will start and we shan't embarass ourselves slipping on a patch of black ice. Spring is more a quagmire of cold mud and slush, and fall is a pile of fallen leaves that may or may not hide a pile of doggy doo-doo. But summer, ah summer is an oasis of endless green that disappears all too quickly beneath our feet as we rush through its warm, glorious bliss.
by dat cubfan daver on Dec 4, 2008 12:11 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
With pictures and the obligatory accompanying fan poll.
"Hats for bats.....keep bats warm." - Pedro Cerrano
"Hey bartender, Jobu needs a refill !!!!!!!" - Eddie Harris
by willie mays hayes' gloves on Dec 4, 2008 12:23 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I can't believe all the people mentioning...
how he will bounce back, or perhaps be better than Gregg. Howry has a mediocre (at best) fastball and a worthless slider. That’s it. I don’t care if he’s pitching in the Grand Canyon, he’ll keep giving up long balls like it’s his job. Have fun in SanFran, where old, mediocre ballplayers go to spend the rest of their careers.
Ron Santo should sing TMOTTBG everyday. Period.
by Schwa on Dec 3, 2008 6:52 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Wow
did everyone forget he was a pretty good bullpen arm for the cubs for 2 years. I don’t understand why everyone dislikes him so much.
"Chicago Cubs fans are ninety percent scar tissue" - George F. Will
by tizzle on Dec 3, 2008 7:15 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
because he only has one pitch
Seriously. Howry only has a fastball. When he’s spotting it and throwing with some movement, he’s fine. But it stands to make sense that a pitcher like this, whose fastball isn’t blazing and doesn’t move much, will start to get hit as he gets older. Opposing hitters know whats coming. I don’t think he’s the spawn of satan or anything but the course of his career makes sense.
by dmlichte on Dec 3, 2008 7:22 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
It's not that we have forgotten
his first year here, he and Eyre were the best thing on this team. Since then, Howry has steadily sucked harder and harder. He has had moments of looking better but his overall was total crap. You are only as good as your last outing so to speak, and this guy has an entire season on which to judge him. He is a fine person, he is crap on the bump. Good luck to SF!
Kwa...Ki...Sur...Pee...Nee...Ku?
by Kinky Reggae on Dec 3, 2008 9:36 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I understand that
but it doesnt explain the near celebration that this post is getting. Why not just respect what he did for us when he was performing. It seems as though a lot of people here forget that he was once pretty good for us.
"Chicago Cubs fans are ninety percent scar tissue" - George F. Will
by tizzle on Dec 3, 2008 7:44 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
I'm with you
I save that kind of glee for when someone who was completely worthless leaves. Howry was good for more than half of his time with the Cubs.
My next sig line quote will also be from Lou Piniella, and the first word will be either "Look", or "Listen", followed by a comma.
by JohnM on Dec 4, 2008 4:34 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Once but not any more!
It’s a sweet thing that the one-pitch, can of gasoline has a new address! Good Luck and thanks, Bobby!
"He can't hit, he can't field, he can't run—all he can do is beat you."
by Itchy on Dec 4, 2008 11:10 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Howry did perform competently
There is just such a short shelf life for these guys. Part of it is impressions.
I remember when Remlinger came on board. I remember his first several appearances. I thought the man couldn’t be scored on. It was like Zeus came down to deliver thunderbolts.
Then reality set in.
Godspeed, Bob.
By the way, Worf is drunk right now. I have no idea what I’m posting. Fun, isn’t it?
The worst beer I had was pretty good.
by Worf on Dec 3, 2008 9:00 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Howry needs a park like Pac Bell
Or, whatever it’s called these days. His fastball dropped from the mid 90’s, to the low 90’s as a Cub. When you only have one pitch, and it has no movement, you will get hit if the velocity drops. Major league hitters can hit a straight, 90 mph fastball. At least Howry will be playing park with a cavernous centerfield.
by Nibbles on Dec 3, 2008 9:10 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
khalil greene
about to be dealt???
Dear Santa:: All I want for X-mas this year is an official 2009 Jake Peavy Cubs Jersey. Oh and a Beimel one too. I've been a real good guy for the most part!!!
by cubsluver22 on Dec 3, 2008 9:17 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
To whom?
And where did you hear this or read it?
"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx
by Al on Dec 3, 2008 9:30 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Dear Santa:: All I want for X-mas this year is an official 2009 Jake Peavy Cubs Jersey. Oh and a Beimel one too. I've been a real good guy for the most part!!!
by cubsluver22 on Dec 3, 2008 9:30 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I found it at...
… MLBTR. Says he might be going to the Orioles or Cardinals.
Interesting.
"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx
by Al on Dec 3, 2008 9:31 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
c'mon
Al give us a deep goat rumor or something. i’m freaking dying a minute at a time. I need a breaking cub story or an exclusive behind the scenes negotiation rumor b4 bed.
Dear Santa:: All I want for X-mas this year is an official 2009 Jake Peavy Cubs Jersey. Oh and a Beimel one too. I've been a real good guy for the most part!!!
by cubsluver22 on Dec 3, 2008 9:38 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Khalil is coming to a rival near you
says here everybody’s favrite Ba’hai SS is going to the Cards
by philadelphiacub on Dec 3, 2008 11:04 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Relief guys are the most fungible players in baseball
You never really know who’s going to be good one year and bad the next.
Howry and Eyre, on the whole, turned out to be good signings. But three-year deals for any reliever probably is a bit much.
by Not Bruce Froemming on Dec 4, 2008 12:31 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
+50 BCB points...
…for your use of the word “fungible.”
Yes, yes ... winter is indeed a pond upon which all of us must skate, braving frostbite and runny noses in the hopes that our cars will start and we shan't embarass ourselves slipping on a patch of black ice. Spring is more a quagmire of cold mud and slush, and fall is a pile of fallen leaves that may or may not hide a pile of doggy doo-doo. But summer, ah summer is an oasis of endless green that disappears all too quickly beneath our feet as we rush through its warm, glorious bliss.
by dat cubfan daver on Dec 4, 2008 1:20 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I haven't used that word since I wrote a paper for my Econ class in college. I always thought
it sounded pretty sexy for a business term.
"Hats for bats.....keep bats warm." - Pedro Cerrano
"Hey bartender, Jobu needs a refill !!!!!!!" - Eddie Harris
by willie mays hayes' gloves on Dec 4, 2008 1:53 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Sexy?
It makes me think of mushrooms.
Yes, yes ... winter is indeed a pond upon which all of us must skate, braving frostbite and runny noses in the hopes that our cars will start and we shan't embarass ourselves slipping on a patch of black ice. Spring is more a quagmire of cold mud and slush, and fall is a pile of fallen leaves that may or may not hide a pile of doggy doo-doo. But summer, ah summer is an oasis of endless green that disappears all too quickly beneath our feet as we rush through its warm, glorious bliss.
by dat cubfan daver on Dec 4, 2008 2:04 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Mushrooms aren't sexy?
My next sig line quote will also be from Lou Piniella, and the first word will be either "Look", or "Listen", followed by a comma.
by JohnM on Dec 4, 2008 3:46 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
hey where's the official list?
Well, Next Year is here .. and Jack's century's gotta end some time .. GO CUBBIES!
by cubnational on Dec 4, 2008 7:16 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
The official list of words worth 50 BCB points?
Yes, yes ... winter is indeed a pond upon which all of us must skate, braving frostbite and runny noses in the hopes that our cars will start and we shan't embarass ourselves slipping on a patch of black ice. Spring is more a quagmire of cold mud and slush, and fall is a pile of fallen leaves that may or may not hide a pile of doggy doo-doo. But summer, ah summer is an oasis of endless green that disappears all too quickly beneath our feet as we rush through its warm, glorious bliss.
by dat cubfan daver on Dec 4, 2008 7:21 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
In case you were wondering...(And related to mushrooms)
Here’s what Giants fans are also focusing on this offseason (besides Bob Howry).
http://www.mccoveychronicles.com/2008/12/4/681930/quite-possiblky-the-greate
Pretty awesome, if I do say so myself.
by CubsWin!Oregon on Dec 4, 2008 6:39 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
OH... MY... GAWD....
and I thought I was a geek.
by znohitter on Dec 4, 2008 7:13 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
And here's...
…their official Fanshot (yes, SHOT) on the Howry signing. Man, I thought we were crazy.
Yes, yes ... winter is indeed a pond upon which all of us must skate, braving frostbite and runny noses in the hopes that our cars will start and we shan't embarass ourselves slipping on a patch of black ice. Spring is more a quagmire of cold mud and slush, and fall is a pile of fallen leaves that may or may not hide a pile of doggy doo-doo. But summer, ah summer is an oasis of endless green that disappears all too quickly beneath our feet as we rush through its warm, glorious bliss.
by dat cubfan daver on Dec 4, 2008 7:33 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Howry, the human Slo Mo ... gone at last ..
It was more painful to watch him pitch ANYTIME he got to the mound then even Dempster as he soared up and down with his closer fortunes ..
One thing is for sure, the game will end a whole lot faster now ..
Well, Next Year is here .. and Jack's century's gotta end some time .. GO CUBBIES!
by cubnational on Dec 4, 2008 7:16 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
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