DeRosa to the Indians
by jza48 on Dec 31, 2008 12:28 PM CST
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ESPN.com is reporting that DeRosa has been traded to the Indians for 3 players.
I do not like the sound of this!
Mark DeRosa, who had been rumored to be a part of three- and four-team scenarios in the Jake Peavy trade talks is finally headed out of Chicago -- but not in a deal for the San Diego Padres' ace.
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DeRosa has been traded to the Cleveland Indians for three players, sources told ESPN The Magazine's Buster Olney.
DeRosa hit 21 home runs and drove in 87 runs for the Cubs last season, appearing in 149 games. He played 97 games at second base.
He will be 34 when the 2009 season begins.
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Please let one of those Indians be Adam Miller.
by Great Odin's Raven on Dec 31, 2008 12:32 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Nope
Jeff Stevens, Chris Archer and John Gaub, according to the Cleveland Plain-Dealer.
by Great Odin's Raven on Dec 31, 2008 12:33 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I'll root for Cleveland this year
but I don’t mind at all if it means a rotation of Peavy, Harden, Zambrano, Dempster and Lilly.
"Who's Bob Brenly? The guy that used to be the manager for Arizona?" ~ Alfonso Guilleard Soriano
by JohnM on Dec 31, 2008 12:32 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Jeff Stevens, Chris Archer, and John Gobb. Those are the prospects. (via Bruce Levine on ESPN 1000)
"Baseball is like church- many attend, few understand." ~ Leo Durocher
by The Lip on Dec 31, 2008 12:33 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Relevant, sort of
Spoiler: you won’t see any of those names.
by dr stabbingworth on Dec 31, 2008 12:44 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
+1
100 years would have been nice, but 101 years still has a nice ring to it.
by airweino on Dec 31, 2008 12:50 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
what a way to ring in the new year
Okay, just so I understand it... in your wildest fantasy, you are in hell. And you are co-running a bed and breakfast with the devil.
by bren on Dec 31, 2008 12:55 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Here's a list of the Indians top 20 prospects
YOU WON’T FIND THEM LISTED THERE EITHER!!
http://www.minorleagueball.com/2008/12/29/704258/cleveland-indians-top-20-p
by IllinoisCubs on Dec 31, 2008 12:58 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I dont thing there is any doubt
Peavy will soon be a Cub. Thats the only way I see Henry doing any of this
2008 has to be the year, doesnt it?
by indytaz on Dec 31, 2008 12:34 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
You would think...
but do you really think the Padres would be interested in these guys? Only one of them was on Cleveland’s 40-man roster.
by Great Odin's Raven on Dec 31, 2008 12:35 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
If this deal is to set up another.....
……you can bet that Hendry knew before trading DeRosa that these were the exact guys the other team wanted.
"Baseball is like church- many attend, few understand." ~ Leo Durocher
by The Lip on Dec 31, 2008 12:37 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Wait a minute...
thought SD wanted near-MLB ready players in return, not prospects.
Sweet Lou for Mayor in '11.
by blackhawk24 on Dec 31, 2008 12:36 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Aren't near-MLB ready players also known as prospects?
Hey, it's a new century!
by cowsarecool220 on Dec 31, 2008 12:39 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I always had a dividing line of
MLB-ready being top guy in AA or AAA, prospects in rookie league through low/high class A. But hey that’s just me.
Sweet Lou for Mayor in '11.
by blackhawk24 on Dec 31, 2008 12:46 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Stevens....
…..looks to be a MLB ready bullpen arm. The other guys look like power arms- one starter and another pen guy potentially.
"Baseball is like church- many attend, few understand." ~ Leo Durocher
by The Lip on Dec 31, 2008 12:44 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Gotta believe it's a prelude to something else.
Why do this trade when in win now mode unless it is to set up something else?
Something gonna happen!
"Baseball is like church- many attend, few understand." ~ Leo Durocher
by The Lip on Dec 31, 2008 12:35 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Another deal's in place...
It’s either Peavy or someone else flying under the radar…
SORIANO! YESSSSSSSS! JIMBO!!!
by CubFaninCA on Dec 31, 2008 12:41 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Gotta be, DeRosa's too popular to just be a salary dump. This isn't Kansas City
by Juiceboxjerry on Dec 31, 2008 12:42 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Yep
and Lou has to sign off on this too… A big name’s coming..
SORIANO! YESSSSSSSS! JIMBO!!!
by CubFaninCA on Dec 31, 2008 12:43 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
My hope is that...
this isn’t a deal simply to clear space for Bradley. I have to hope that this means we’re bringing in a big-name pitcher as well. If not, this would make the Bradley signing an even bigger gamble than it already seems to be.
by SouthernCub on Dec 31, 2008 12:38 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
shoot shoot SHOOT
I really don’t think this is a good idea. You need FOUR guys to replace DeRosa.
"That’s the great thing about baseball, you never know what’s going to happen till you get the final out." — Lou Piniella
by drewishdrewid on Dec 31, 2008 12:38 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
They Got Three...
…in Miles. An remember, DeRo is righty.
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by initram on Dec 31, 2008 12:57 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
so what?
"That’s the great thing about baseball, you never know what’s going to happen till you get the final out." — Lou Piniella
by drewishdrewid on Dec 31, 2008 12:58 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Something bigger is brewing
The only way this makes sense is if we get Peavy. So the question is would you rather have
Kerry Wood, Mark DeRosa, Jason Marquis, and Sean Marshall or
Kevin Gregg, Milton Bradley, Jake Peavy, and Aaron Miles?
Let the Blaine Gabbert era begin.
by nji232 on Dec 31, 2008 12:40 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
I dunno...
I just don’t know…
"That’s the great thing about baseball, you never know what’s going to happen till you get the final out." — Lou Piniella
by drewishdrewid on Dec 31, 2008 12:51 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Wood, DeRosa, Marquis and Marshall.
"...the internet is not something you just dump something on. It's not a truck. It's a series of tubes." - Sen. Ted Stevens
by bobby h on Dec 31, 2008 12:51 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Just out of curiosity
How much of that has to do with loyalty towards Kerry Wood? Because that is the main draw of that list to me.
Let the Blaine Gabbert era begin.
by nji232 on Dec 31, 2008 12:56 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
admittedly some...
Part loyalty (for two of my favourite Cubs), part that I feel that we swapped a top-tier closer/set-up man combo for a question mark (as far as Marmol being untested as a closed) and someone with strike zone issues.
I think that Miles/Bradley over DeRosa/? is a net loss. Particularly for a team with power/XBH struggles. I think that DeRosa to Miles is a big step down. I’m sort of in between on Bradley — I see upside but I’m not fully sold — but I think +Bradley, -DeRosa just swaps one hole for another. Especially if Bradley ends up missing a significant part of the season.
I do like Peavy and am happy to see Marquis go, but not nearly enough so to offset the rest.
"...the internet is not something you just dump something on. It's not a truck. It's a series of tubes." - Sen. Ted Stevens
by bobby h on Dec 31, 2008 1:05 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
If Peavy isn't part of the one list its not even a discussion
and Kerry Wood also kind of makes me gravite towards his side anyway but more because Kevin Gregg isn’t good.
Let the Blaine Gabbert era begin.
by nji232 on Dec 31, 2008 1:08 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Ask me again in a year.
It seems that only time will tell. Seems to me the Cubs will enter ’09 with a stronger lineup and better starting pitching, but a weaker bullpen… shrugs
"I see great things in baseball. It's our game - the American game." - Walt Whitman
by hip2bsquare on Dec 31, 2008 12:55 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
The cards (sorry) are all falling in order now
(insert metaphor here)
Adios, Mr. Stevens. It was nice knowing you. You too Felix & Ronnie.
by leothelip on Dec 31, 2008 12:41 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Once we hit that bullseye, the rest of the dominoes will fall like a house of cards. Checkmate.
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by hip2bsquare on Dec 31, 2008 12:47 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
You sunk my battleship!
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by dat cubfan daver on Dec 31, 2008 12:54 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
WTF is going on here!?
At least he’s back with Woody, but this hasnt really added up yet….its like Hendy is playing connect four and we havent seen the diagonal move yet.
Okay, just so I understand it... in your wildest fantasy, you are in hell. And you are co-running a bed and breakfast with the devil.
by bren on Dec 31, 2008 12:42 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
It makes sense if Peavy is back in the mix...
If it’s just to clear space for Bradley, then it doesn’t make sense to me.
This is obviously a salary-clearing deal, just like the Marquis trade will be. Miles replaces DeRosa as the utility player but does it for less money (and less productivity). DeRosa will bring prospects, which can then be sent elsewhere for a better pitcher (like Peavy) to replace Marquis.
by SouthernCub on Dec 31, 2008 12:43 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Maybe not though
Unless Hendry knows for sure that either Towers or McPhail wants these guys to precipitate a Peavy or Roberts deal, respectively.
Okay, just so I understand it... in your wildest fantasy, you are in hell. And you are co-running a bed and breakfast with the devil.
by bren on Dec 31, 2008 12:45 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I would imagine Hendry would have discussed the possibilities...
It COULD also be the less appealing salary dump though. I’m hopeful it’s the former.
by SouthernCub on Dec 31, 2008 12:46 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I doubt its a dump when he's in the last year of his deal
And wouldnt have been that far fetched if even got an extension b/c of his performance since he’s been here
Okay, just so I understand it... in your wildest fantasy, you are in hell. And you are co-running a bed and breakfast with the devil.
by bren on Dec 31, 2008 12:49 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
It's a dump if it clears space THIS year...
Trading DeRosa and signing Miles saves $3.5 million this year. For a team that has payroll limitations, that’s a relevant salary dump, even if it’s just this year.
I think the trade is certainly a salary dump. The only question is whether or not it’s just a move to clear space for Bradley or a move to clear space for Bradley AND to get someone for the rotation (after trading Marquis).
by SouthernCub on Dec 31, 2008 12:57 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I try not to swear on here too much, but..
Fucking Zell
Okay, just so I understand it... in your wildest fantasy, you are in hell. And you are co-running a bed and breakfast with the devil.
by bren on Dec 31, 2008 1:00 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I'm still hopeful...
that this clears space for Bradley AND Peavy (or some other nice starting pitcher). Otherwise, I agree.
by SouthernCub on Dec 31, 2008 1:02 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
If it isn't...
…a precursor to something in addition to Bradley, then a terrible trade.
If it means ~140 starts for Miles (with him leading off as Paul Sullivan is suggesting) then it’s even worse.
"...the internet is not something you just dump something on. It's not a truck. It's a series of tubes." - Sen. Ted Stevens
by bobby h on Dec 31, 2008 1:07 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Agreed...
though I’d take whatever Sullivan says with a grain of salt.
by SouthernCub on Dec 31, 2008 1:07 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I also agree
We are looking at another 100 years of the Cubs counting their money and us fans waiting for that RIng, while we line the pockets of the cubs organization.
by Glen Bishop on Dec 31, 2008 2:34 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Atleast I'm not bored
At work with nothing to do, so this atleast spicing up my afternoon.
WTF happened here?
by indytaz on Dec 31, 2008 12:43 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
To quote one infamous anchorman
This escalated quickly
Let the Blaine Gabbert era begin.
by nji232 on Dec 31, 2008 12:45 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I'm pretty sure you killed a guy out there...
…better lay low for a while.
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by carmen_fanzone on Dec 31, 2008 1:04 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Not a single major league player coming back
Okay, just so I understand it... in your wildest fantasy, you are in hell. And you are co-running a bed and breakfast with the devil.
by bren on Dec 31, 2008 12:43 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
It's either...
1) a move to set up another move;
2) a move to clear salary; or
3) both
I hope it’s #3, because I think replacing Wood, DeRosa, and Marquis with Gregg, Bradley and Miles would be a step backwards. But getting someone like Peavy would change the story…
by SouthernCub on Dec 31, 2008 12:45 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
A step backwards would be an understatement
Okay, just so I understand it... in your wildest fantasy, you are in hell. And you are co-running a bed and breakfast with the devil.
by bren on Dec 31, 2008 12:48 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Right, a huge understatement.
Because it would be a step forward
by BarryZuckerCub on Dec 31, 2008 12:49 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I'm not sure how you could suggest that...
Gregg is much worse than Wood, and means we devalue Marmol by taking him out of the fireman role and into the less important (and less used) closer role.
Miles is much worse than DeRosa.
Bradley/Fukudome/Johnson is probably an upgrade over Edmonds/Johnson/Fukudome, but that is no guarantee (especially if Bradley is frequently hurt.
There’s no guarantee that we get significantly better production from Gaudin/Marshall than we would have gotten from Marquis, and it puts a lot more emphasis on Harden’s health.
So we take two BIG steps back and gamble on marginal improvements in two other spots with the risk of big steps back there too. Where is it a step forward?
by SouthernCub on Dec 31, 2008 12:53 PM CST up reply actions 3 recs
rec'd
well put
Okay, just so I understand it... in your wildest fantasy, you are in hell. And you are co-running a bed and breakfast with the devil.
by bren on Dec 31, 2008 12:54 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
+1
"That’s the great thing about baseball, you never know what’s going to happen till you get the final out." — Lou Piniella
by drewishdrewid on Dec 31, 2008 12:55 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Yea, but is Derosa that much better than Fontenot, becomes the question.
by Juiceboxjerry on Dec 31, 2008 12:55 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Miles/Theriot vs lefties, Miles/Fontenot vs lefties?
They had to make a change. They couldn’t go out there with the same team as they did last year. We’ll see if this is a change for the better.
by dr stabbingworth on Dec 31, 2008 12:57 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
really?
I’ve never thought that was a question at all. Clearly, DeRosa is THAT MUCH BETTER than Fontenot. DeRosa is an everyday player who can back you up in almost any position. Fontenot is a platoon second-baseman.
"That’s the great thing about baseball, you never know what’s going to happen till you get the final out." — Lou Piniella
by drewishdrewid on Dec 31, 2008 12:56 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
Yea, but we don't need him for the outfield anymore and that's the only real fill in spot we needed him for
by Juiceboxjerry on Dec 31, 2008 12:59 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Neither Do I...
…moving Marquis cleared enough for Bradley…
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by initram on Dec 31, 2008 1:00 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I don't agree
who’s going to back up Lee, Ramirez and (hah) Theriot?
"That’s the great thing about baseball, you never know what’s going to happen till you get the final out." — Lou Piniella
by drewishdrewid on Dec 31, 2008 1:00 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I just
threw up all over my keyboard.
"That’s the great thing about baseball, you never know what’s going to happen till you get the final out." — Lou Piniella
by drewishdrewid on Dec 31, 2008 1:01 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
Good Luck Cleaning That...
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by initram on Dec 31, 2008 1:02 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Havent we learned our lesson...
picking up the Cardinals scraps
Okay, just so I understand it... in your wildest fantasy, you are in hell. And you are co-running a bed and breakfast with the devil.
by bren on Dec 31, 2008 1:03 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
rec'd
So if/when Bradley goes down, or any of the other players DeRosa backs up (Soriano, Ramirez, Lee) we’ll replace their bat and defense with Hoffpauir?
The strike me as the sort of move that you make when you’re expecting to compete in 2011. Not the one you make when you expect to be a World Series contender in 2009.
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by bobby h on Dec 31, 2008 1:10 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
And DeRosa was a platoon second baseman before he got here btw.
by Juiceboxjerry on Dec 31, 2008 1:00 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
DeRosa
played lots of roles in Atlanta.
"That’s the great thing about baseball, you never know what’s going to happen till you get the final out." — Lou Piniella
by drewishdrewid on Dec 31, 2008 1:01 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Yea, and was never a full timer, just like Fontenot
by Juiceboxjerry on Dec 31, 2008 1:01 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I don't think
it’s a valid comparison. DeRosa was blocked, and made himself a utility man. Fontenot cannot play third, he cannot play first, he cannot play in the outfield, and Lou used him very well to make sure he wasn’t exposed in 2008.
"That’s the great thing about baseball, you never know what’s going to happen till you get the final out." — Lou Piniella
by drewishdrewid on Dec 31, 2008 1:02 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Except for the year he was a full-timer...
in Texas.
by SouthernCub on Dec 31, 2008 1:02 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Look at the stats and that includes split stats
Mike Fontenot 305 395 514 909 better
Mark Derosa 285 376 481 857 good
plus Mike is play’s better defense
by louwants on Dec 31, 2008 1:28 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I'd like to see those stats
Fontenot was protected by Lou. He was put in situations where he could succeed. DeRosa, on the other hand, played nearly every day, and sometimes, didn’t know where till right before the game.
Fonty is better at 2b than DeRosa? I don’t believe it.
"That’s the great thing about baseball, you never know what’s going to happen till you get the final out." — Lou Piniella
by drewishdrewid on Dec 31, 2008 1:29 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
That and DeRosa can also play
almost anywhere else on the field if the need arises or when Lou has his double switch parties.
"...the internet is not something you just dump something on. It's not a truck. It's a series of tubes." - Sen. Ted Stevens
by bobby h on Dec 31, 2008 1:38 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
You're not taking sample size into account.
How many ABs did Fontenot have? Now how many did DeRo have?
And I don’t see LBR as being better defensively than DeRo either. I view Mark as having better range and a better arm.
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by dat cubfan daver on Dec 31, 2008 1:35 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Yes...
In that he can play 3rd, 2nd, 1st, and OF w/ respectable defense. Fontenot can’t do that, and he’s never been an everyday player in the majors. We shall see…
Someday we'll go all the way...
by CubsBullsBears on Dec 31, 2008 12:56 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
as an Indians fan, this makes me very happy
so you can imagine what this makes me feel as a Cubs fan. I just hope Jimbo is smarter than the rest of us.
Lou Brown: "My kinda team, Charlie, my kinda team..."
by ballhawk on Dec 31, 2008 12:45 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
you cant be a fan of two teams, come on, man up and choose one!
Okay, just so I understand it... in your wildest fantasy, you are in hell. And you are co-running a bed and breakfast with the devil.
by bren on Dec 31, 2008 12:45 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Wellllll...
it does mean he has a truly legitimate reason to root against the team 9 miles south a good 20-25 times a year.
Sweet Lou for Mayor in '11.
by blackhawk24 on Dec 31, 2008 12:48 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
as long as Bud doesn't decide to merge leagues (don't put it past him)...
…I’m ok. At least until some theoretical October rolls around.
or a very real June this year.
Lou Brown: "My kinda team, Charlie, my kinda team..."
by ballhawk on Dec 31, 2008 12:57 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Well, we'll have to wait and see what magic Hendry has
I don’t see how these three arms help us make a Peavy deal, and I don’t see these three arms helping us much this year. Stevens is nice and could perhaps help in middle relief, but we have a lot of righty arms for pen roles, along with the just added Vizcaino. Gaub adds to our lefty depth, mainly lefty pen depth, in the lower levels, which is nice, but eh. Archer is a decent power arm.
Maybe these assets develop, but a win now asset like DeRosa that likely would’ve netted 2 picks and offered versatility? Maybe San Diego has an interest in them, but I wonder if our budget situation is simply so tight right now that we needed to cut so much to simply add Bradley, who may hit 10 mil AAV, if not more? Maybe Stevens is meant for the pen so that Samardzija can go to the rotation (which I don’t want, but that could be a plausible reason for this deal, along with cutting costs).
Ugh … this was so exciting an hour ago … right now, not so exciting.
by toonsterwu on Dec 31, 2008 12:47 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
If you emember we needed to trade DeRosa as well as Marquis in order to fit Peavy in
and that was assuming we were going after the left handed bat Lou wanted.
by Juiceboxjerry on Dec 31, 2008 12:50 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
So now I hear that the Cubs are saying they only traded DeRo to free up space for Bradley
If that turns out to be the case, I don’t approve of this trade.
Let the Blaine Gabbert era begin.
by nji232 on Dec 31, 2008 12:48 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Bruce Miles
Let the Blaine Gabbert era begin.
by nji232 on Dec 31, 2008 12:50 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
The Cubs will have to trade DeRosa to free up money for Bradley, whose deal may get done next week.
http://blogs.dailyherald.com/node/1168
Let the Blaine Gabbert era begin.
by nji232 on Dec 31, 2008 12:54 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
ok, now I have an answer for the question above
I’d rather have DeRosa if we’re not getting Peavy.
"That’s the great thing about baseball, you never know what’s going to happen till you get the final out." — Lou Piniella
by drewishdrewid on Dec 31, 2008 12:55 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah that list of names isn't as good without Peavy in it
Let the Blaine Gabbert era begin.
by nji232 on Dec 31, 2008 12:56 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
the list of names
is TERRIBLE without Peavy in it.
"That’s the great thing about baseball, you never know what’s going to happen till you get the final out." — Lou Piniella
by drewishdrewid on Dec 31, 2008 12:57 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Not good news.
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by dat cubfan daver on Dec 31, 2008 12:55 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I'm not convinced.
Three young arms is the shopping list for Peavy, not the Cubs.
by N Oakley on Dec 31, 2008 12:57 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
If 3.5 million is what they need
to add Bradley, then other guys could have been moved or not kept. Why keep Reed Johnson? Why get Gaithright when Pie’s cheaper? Why keep Gaudin? Why not try to deal Vizcaino?
SORIANO! YESSSSSSSS! JIMBO!!!
by CubFaninCA on Dec 31, 2008 1:02 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
they wanted ready arms
maybe towers has changed his mind, but on paper, the fit doesn’t seem to be there.
by toonsterwu on Dec 31, 2008 1:07 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Sounds like Stevens is ready
If Pie’s dealt for Olsen, that’s another ready arm, and the Cubs can send them Kevin Hart. That’s 3 ready arms and 2 more arms ready in a year or two..
SORIANO! YESSSSSSSS! JIMBO!!!
by CubFaninCA on Dec 31, 2008 1:27 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Jim Hendry smokescreen
..
SORIANO! YESSSSSSSS! JIMBO!!!
by CubFaninCA on Dec 31, 2008 12:57 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
It ALSO says that the Peavy deal is not dead...
just not active.
So I think it’s semantics to say that DeRosa trade simply clears space for Bradley. It may ALSO clear space (and add potential trade prospects) for Peavy.
Or, it may not. Hopefully, it does.
by SouthernCub on Dec 31, 2008 1:32 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
what?
they clear 3.5 million by moving DeRo and replacing him with Miles to get Bradley?? I don’t buy that..
SORIANO! YESSSSSSSS! JIMBO!!!
by CubFaninCA on Dec 31, 2008 12:52 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
fyi
clearing dero clears 5.5 million.
by toonsterwu on Dec 31, 2008 12:52 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
but they added miles
for $2 million.
SORIANO! YESSSSSSSS! JIMBO!!!
by CubFaninCA on Dec 31, 2008 12:52 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
$3.5 million for DeRosa plus ~$5-6 million for Marquis...
That counterbalances most of Bradley’s cost.
by SouthernCub on Dec 31, 2008 12:54 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
We don't even know Bradley's contract yet!
by Juiceboxjerry on Dec 31, 2008 12:56 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I'm guesstimating...
based on the Ibanez deal.
by SouthernCub on Dec 31, 2008 12:59 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
i read a few weeks ago
that they have $20 million to play with, if marquis is dealt. guess not..
SORIANO! YESSSSSSSS! JIMBO!!!
by CubFaninCA on Dec 31, 2008 12:56 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Depends...
It may also be that trading Marquis and DeRosa gives us $20 million, which gives Hendry the room to add TWO players. In that case, it would just be semantics on saying DeRosa clears space for Bradley.
by SouthernCub on Dec 31, 2008 1:01 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
DeRosa
essentially makes some room for Peavy, but more importantly he gives SD pitching..
SORIANO! YESSSSSSSS! JIMBO!!!
by CubFaninCA on Dec 31, 2008 1:03 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Thats a big assumption though
After the talks broke off b/c Towers was asking too much and Lou was mad that DeRosa was even in the talks
Okay, just so I understand it... in your wildest fantasy, you are in hell. And you are co-running a bed and breakfast with the devil.
by bren on Dec 31, 2008 1:04 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
If Lous was so mad
why deal DeRo now??
SD wanted 6-7 players. The Cubs now have the players…
SORIANO! YESSSSSSSS! JIMBO!!!
by CubFaninCA on Dec 31, 2008 1:05 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I Doubt They Get...
… the 6-7 players, unless some money comes with it.
Perhaps Vitters is out?
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by initram on Dec 31, 2008 1:06 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah
Vitters could be out.
Cubs can send the 3 Indian prospects, Cedeno, Hart & Pie. Pie can be swapped for Olsen. That’s 6 players..
SORIANO! YESSSSSSSS! JIMBO!!!
by CubFaninCA on Dec 31, 2008 1:08 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Sold!
Announcement by 4pm?
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by initram on Dec 31, 2008 1:09 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
lol
hopefully. Will probably take a few days. May see Pie dealt today tho.
SORIANO! YESSSSSSSS! JIMBO!!!
by CubFaninCA on Dec 31, 2008 1:10 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
That was my point
To assume this trade somehow leads to Peavy, when Lou was upset in the first place that he was mentioned in the Peavy talks
Okay, just so I understand it... in your wildest fantasy, you are in hell. And you are co-running a bed and breakfast with the devil.
by bren on Dec 31, 2008 1:07 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
but if Lou's really upset
about DeRo for Peavy, then how’s he feel about DeRo for 3 guys who won’t help him this year?? There has to be something else in place besides Bradley.
SORIANO! YESSSSSSSS! JIMBO!!!
by CubFaninCA on Dec 31, 2008 1:09 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
If It Fell Through...
… and you were DeRo, wouldn’t you be concerned if Piniella wasn’t upset?
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by initram on Dec 31, 2008 1:09 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Hear where?
I hope that is not true. Of course, this sounds like a classic Jimbo move; not taking any moves to the media before they’re done…
Sweet Lou for Mayor in '11.
by blackhawk24 on Dec 31, 2008 12:49 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Lou is ruining this team!
If that is the case, first he gives up on Hill and Pie, wants a lefty so bad he’s moving parts to get Milton “DH/DL” Bradley
Okay, just so I understand it... in your wildest fantasy, you are in hell. And you are co-running a bed and breakfast with the devil.
by bren on Dec 31, 2008 12:52 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
That's it! I will now only refer to Bradley as DHL.
As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.
by santoswoodenlegs on Dec 31, 2008 12:53 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
at least you can rely on the to deliver
count it!
Okay, just so I understand it... in your wildest fantasy, you are in hell. And you are co-running a bed and breakfast with the devil.
by bren on Dec 31, 2008 12:54 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
didn't DHL
go out of business?
"That’s the great thing about baseball, you never know what’s going to happen till you get the final out." — Lou Piniella
by drewishdrewid on Dec 31, 2008 12:56 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
How very appropriate then.
As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.
by santoswoodenlegs on Dec 31, 2008 12:58 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
they did?
how fitting
Okay, just so I understand it... in your wildest fantasy, you are in hell. And you are co-running a bed and breakfast with the devil.
by bren on Dec 31, 2008 12:58 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I know
I haven’t seen a commercial or a truck for DHL in a LONG time. Their website’s still up tho, so maybe I’m wrong…
"That’s the great thing about baseball, you never know what’s going to happen till you get the final out." — Lou Piniella
by drewishdrewid on Dec 31, 2008 1:00 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
No I think you got, i vaguely remember hearing something about that
Okay, just so I understand it... in your wildest fantasy, you are in hell. And you are co-running a bed and breakfast with the devil.
by bren on Dec 31, 2008 1:01 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
They're only international know...
…they bowed out of domestic shipping.
"...the internet is not something you just dump something on. It's not a truck. It's a series of tubes." - Sen. Ted Stevens
by bobby h on Dec 31, 2008 1:13 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
*only international NOW
"...the internet is not something you just dump something on. It's not a truck. It's a series of tubes." - Sen. Ted Stevens
by bobby h on Dec 31, 2008 1:14 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Then who the heck is that guy driving around my neighborhood in the DHL truck???
I haz blurg: hotbeans.wordpress.com
by digitalbenjamin on Dec 31, 2008 1:14 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
better check his ID.
"That’s the great thing about baseball, you never know what’s going to happen till you get the final out." — Lou Piniella
by drewishdrewid on Dec 31, 2008 1:15 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Did he offer you free candy?
by dr stabbingworth on Dec 31, 2008 1:15 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
LMAO. Good one!
"I'm not much of a chemistry guy, you know. Chemistry to me is a pinch-hit double with the bases loaded"--Jim Frey, Chicago Tribune, 1985.
by zevkalman on Dec 31, 2008 1:16 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Ace Ventura, Pet Detective
“I gotta package here, people!”
Yes, yes ... winter is indeed a pond upon which all of us must skate, braving frostbite and runny noses in the hopes that our cars will start and we shan't embarass ourselves slipping on a patch of black ice. Spring is more a quagmire of cold mud and slush, and fall is a pile of fallen leaves that may or may not hide a pile of doggy doo-doo. But summer, ah summer is an oasis of endless green that disappears all too quickly beneath our feet as we rush through its warm, glorious bliss.
by dat cubfan daver on Dec 31, 2008 1:17 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
TWSS
I haz blurg: hotbeans.wordpress.com
by digitalbenjamin on Dec 31, 2008 1:26 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Intra-US and/or NA only IIRC
Int’l they still deliver
Sweet Lou for Mayor in '11.
by blackhawk24 on Dec 31, 2008 2:47 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Don't forget
The Padres can use Petco to take “serviceable” middle-relievers and turn them into “Can’t miss super-stud closers-in-waiting” — so getting some solid arms might be a good play for them in the long run. They can take these guys with their new higher values after a season in SD, and dump them to the Yankees for legit prospects.
But mostly, it sounds like the Pads have to cut payroll in order to make the divorce proceedings go more smoothly.
"Something Profound"
by jza48 on Dec 31, 2008 12:51 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Jim Callis from Baseball America is doing an ESPN chat at 2 EST
hopefully he’ll touch upon some of these guys we just got
Okay, just so I understand it... in your wildest fantasy, you are in hell. And you are co-running a bed and breakfast with the devil.
by bren on Dec 31, 2008 12:51 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
I thought the Cubs wanted to WIn in '09?
Letting Wood go? Wanting to sign Bradley? Now, trading DeRo?
What?!?!?
by TheHawkRules on Dec 31, 2008 12:53 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
I'm perfectly happy with this if Peavy is
the reward.
by N Oakley on Dec 31, 2008 12:55 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Yep, me too.
But that suddenly seems a lot less certain than it did about half an hour ago.
Yes, yes ... winter is indeed a pond upon which all of us must skate, braving frostbite and runny noses in the hopes that our cars will start and we shan't embarass ourselves slipping on a patch of black ice. Spring is more a quagmire of cold mud and slush, and fall is a pile of fallen leaves that may or may not hide a pile of doggy doo-doo. But summer, ah summer is an oasis of endless green that disappears all too quickly beneath our feet as we rush through its warm, glorious bliss.
by dat cubfan daver on Dec 31, 2008 12:56 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I choose to believe
Hendry is refusing to discuss Peavy in the press and spinning this move absent Peavy.
by N Oakley on Dec 31, 2008 12:59 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I hope you're right.
These three pitchers don’t exactly seem like what the Padres were/are looking for, but Hendry is a good salesman, so…
Yes, yes ... winter is indeed a pond upon which all of us must skate, braving frostbite and runny noses in the hopes that our cars will start and we shan't embarass ourselves slipping on a patch of black ice. Spring is more a quagmire of cold mud and slush, and fall is a pile of fallen leaves that may or may not hide a pile of doggy doo-doo. But summer, ah summer is an oasis of endless green that disappears all too quickly beneath our feet as we rush through its warm, glorious bliss.
by dat cubfan daver on Dec 31, 2008 1:04 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Yep
and he told Towers to shut his big mouth for once.
SORIANO! YESSSSSSSS! JIMBO!!!
by CubFaninCA on Dec 31, 2008 1:04 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I agree
In JH’s shoes, you cannot mention Peavy or the 2b who shall not be named. If you do mention them and a deal falls through, then you’re the GM who traded away an important piece for a pipedream. Much safer to say it’s about clearing payroll.
by Cubinator on Dec 31, 2008 1:26 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Okay...
That makes sense…I feel better.
Can’t take this waiting, though!
by jdb-44 on Dec 31, 2008 1:31 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Hendry Is Likely...
… talking with McFAIL and Towers as we type…
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by initram on Dec 31, 2008 1:32 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
More likely
he’d already talked to them and knew what they wanted. There were multiple suitors for DeRosa. Just because we don’t see the value of the package we got back doesn’t mean there isn’t value there to someone else with something more obviously valuable – Peavy, Roberts, or someone we haven’t even considered.
The author of this post is not a certified scout, doctor, agent, statistician, manager, or journalist, nor was he ever a very good player, though he tried very hard to be like Ryne Sandberg and was about as scrappy as it gets (in T-ball). Any opinion expressed above should in no way be confused with fact, truth, or reality and is hereby qualified in the following ways: 1) The author does not know as much about baseball as Lou Piniella. 2) The author does not know as much about baseball as Jim Hendry. 3) The author does not know as much about baseball as either Dusty or Darren Baker.
by DGU on Dec 31, 2008 1:49 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Yep
one of these arms could be going to Baltimore.
SORIANO! YESSSSSSSS! JIMBO!!!
by CubFaninCA on Dec 31, 2008 3:41 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
+1
You betcha! In a vacuum with what we know now, it seems like a down grade. But folks, there’s 14 weeks until the start of the season.
Sweet Lou for Mayor in '11.
by blackhawk24 on Dec 31, 2008 2:48 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Where does Pie fit into all of this? Where does he go? What does he do?
"I'm not much of a chemistry guy, you know. Chemistry to me is a pinch-hit double with the bases loaded"--Jim Frey, Chicago Tribune, 1985.
by zevkalman on Dec 31, 2008 12:56 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
He's getting dealt for
Peavy.. I’m not buying that they’re moving DeRo so they can sign Bradley. Bull crap.
SORIANO! YESSSSSSSS! JIMBO!!!
by CubFaninCA on Dec 31, 2008 12:58 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
He goes to San Diego as part of the Peavy deal (theoretically)
and what he does there, I don’t really care.
"I see great things in baseball. It's our game - the American game." - Walt Whitman
by hip2bsquare on Dec 31, 2008 12:59 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I'll take "Zevkalman's Gambit" for $800 Alex...
Trebek: Answer: “Running his ass off all game long tracking down the laser beams the crappy pitching staff is going to give up…and striking out.”
::furious button mashing::
Trebek: SWL.
SWL: What is “Felix Pie’s typical game as a Padre”
Trebek: Correct! Select again!
As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.
by santoswoodenlegs on Dec 31, 2008 1:10 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
LOL
Whoever said you can't mix business with pleasure never owned a PuttPutt course---Andy Bernard
by carmen_fanzone on Dec 31, 2008 1:13 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
You'll rue the day you crossed me Trebek!
I haz blurg: hotbeans.wordpress.com
by digitalbenjamin on Dec 31, 2008 1:18 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Suck it, Trebek.
Yes, yes ... winter is indeed a pond upon which all of us must skate, braving frostbite and runny noses in the hopes that our cars will start and we shan't embarass ourselves slipping on a patch of black ice. Spring is more a quagmire of cold mud and slush, and fall is a pile of fallen leaves that may or may not hide a pile of doggy doo-doo. But summer, ah summer is an oasis of endless green that disappears all too quickly beneath our feet as we rush through its warm, glorious bliss.
by dat cubfan daver on Dec 31, 2008 1:20 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I've hated him ever since
he pulled out of a celebrity/’Hawks alumni charity game at the barn about 20 years ago; prick…
Sweet Lou for Mayor in '11.
by blackhawk24 on Dec 31, 2008 2:49 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Pie is going to be traded obviously...
the only questions are “where?” and “for whom?” He’s almost certainly going to a non-contender looking to rebuild with cheap young prospect-types, where I’d guess he’ll get his shot to be an everyday CF. Whether that’s San Diego, Baltimore, or somewhere else, I don’t have any idea.
by SouthernCub on Dec 31, 2008 1:06 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
my theory
is that we’re keeping Marquis now.. and Derosa left to make room for Bradley like Marquis was supposed to
"You must try to generate happiness within yourself. If you aren't happy in one place, chances are you won't be happy anyplace."
by All The Way on Dec 31, 2008 12:59 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
I Doubt It...
… the Marquis deal is agreed to “In Principle”. This likely means they just need to wait until next week to get physicals done.
My 2008 Christmas wish list includes this jersey. In Hendry We Trust!
by initram on Dec 31, 2008 1:02 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
to Colorado
for some balls, a used rake, and a bag of foul-line paint.
"That’s the great thing about baseball, you never know what’s going to happen till you get the final out." — Lou Piniella
by drewishdrewid on Dec 31, 2008 1:03 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
...and, apparently, Luis Vizcaino.
He’s taking the balls, the rake, and the paint to Chicago in the back of his car, and the Cubs get to keep him if they want to.
"I see great things in baseball. It's our game - the American game." - Walt Whitman
by hip2bsquare on Dec 31, 2008 1:04 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Actually, Vizcaino IS the used rake.
He’s been around the league a few times and apparently has quite the devilish streak, the handsome bastard.
Yes, yes ... winter is indeed a pond upon which all of us must skate, braving frostbite and runny noses in the hopes that our cars will start and we shan't embarass ourselves slipping on a patch of black ice. Spring is more a quagmire of cold mud and slush, and fall is a pile of fallen leaves that may or may not hide a pile of doggy doo-doo. But summer, ah summer is an oasis of endless green that disappears all too quickly beneath our feet as we rush through its warm, glorious bliss.
by dat cubfan daver on Dec 31, 2008 1:06 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Luis Vizcaino's Balls?
eiwwww
I haz blurg: hotbeans.wordpress.com
by digitalbenjamin on Dec 31, 2008 1:18 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
To The Rox
with $1M for Luis Vizcaino.
My 2008 Christmas wish list includes this jersey. In Hendry We Trust!
by initram on Dec 31, 2008 1:09 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
good point
Marquis hasn’t really been traded yet
Let the Blaine Gabbert era begin.
by nji232 on Dec 31, 2008 1:03 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I disagree...
that makes no sense. Trading Marquis wouldn’t be a big step back. Trading DeRosa is (unless it portends some other big trade).
by SouthernCub on Dec 31, 2008 1:04 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Marquis' move
is so they don’t have a $9.875M set up man when the Cubs get Peavy.
the DeRo facilitates (or at least in part facilitates) a Peavy acquisition.
Sweet Lou for Mayor in '11.
by blackhawk24 on Dec 31, 2008 2:53 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I disagree
If the Cubs trade Marquis, and can’t land Peavey, then trading him was obviously a mistake. Marquis is definitely under appreciated. He doesn’t have the greatest stuff, but he kept the Cubs in a lot of games and ate up a lot of innings.
Andy R.
by WindisBlowingOut! on Jan 5, 2009 10:32 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
don't you think that...
Hendry is smart enough not to do this unless there’s a larger plan…what about freeing the money from Marquis and DeRo to sign Bradley AND Derek Lowe…thoughts on that?
Another move HAS to be forthcoming for Hendry to trade the guy who was arguably our MVP last year for 3 random minor league pitchers. Right?
Gotta love the Ragin' Cajun!
by TheRiot4Life on Dec 31, 2008 1:05 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
I don't know if Hendry is that smart
He traded for Juan Pierre if you dont remember
Let the Blaine Gabbert era begin.
by nji232 on Dec 31, 2008 1:06 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
That is in part to 2 bigger things
1. The Cubs were God-awful the previous year (2005) in both CF and the leadoff spot.
2. They were dissed by the Dodgers giving $39M to Furcal for 3 years, topping the avg annual salary of the Cubs $50M/5yr offer.
Sweet Lou for Mayor in '11.
by blackhawk24 on Dec 31, 2008 2:54 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
unless
The larger plan is Bradley..
im scared
"You must try to generate happiness within yourself. If you aren't happy in one place, chances are you won't be happy anyplace."
by All The Way on Dec 31, 2008 1:06 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
The larger plan is Peavy IMHO
It only takes $$$ for Bradley, no trade there. For Peavy it takes not only moving salary but getting youngsters in return that the acquiring team (SD) would really want for the former Cy Young award winner.
Sweet Lou for Mayor in '11.
by blackhawk24 on Dec 31, 2008 2:56 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
HOW MANY STARTERS WILL JIMMY LET GO?
What are they doing! This crap is down right stupid. I hope I wake up in a few weeks and we have Dunn and Peavy on our roster. If we don’t get Peavy and a good left fielder(not Milton Im Hurt All The Time Bradley), am cancelling all my Cubs trips this year
by 2tonewilly69 on Dec 31, 2008 1:06 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
A possibility
although i’d much rather have Peavy.
SORIANO! YESSSSSSSS! JIMBO!!!
by CubFaninCA on Dec 31, 2008 1:06 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Can I have your tickets?
Yes, yes ... winter is indeed a pond upon which all of us must skate, braving frostbite and runny noses in the hopes that our cars will start and we shan't embarass ourselves slipping on a patch of black ice. Spring is more a quagmire of cold mud and slush, and fall is a pile of fallen leaves that may or may not hide a pile of doggy doo-doo. But summer, ah summer is an oasis of endless green that disappears all too quickly beneath our feet as we rush through its warm, glorious bliss.
by dat cubfan daver on Dec 31, 2008 1:07 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Relax
As I said with the Wood contract deal, you cannot view each move independently. Wait until spring training and then hang Hendry if you want. This ridiculous assessing of each move independently is stupid.
Whether it is Bradley, Peavy or something no one knows yet, there is more to come. Relax.
by rlpete on Dec 31, 2008 1:08 PM CST reply actions 5 recs
Rec'd
The author of this post is not a certified scout, doctor, agent, statistician, manager, or journalist, nor was he ever a very good player, though he tried very hard to be like Ryne Sandberg and was about as scrappy as it gets (in T-ball). Any opinion expressed above should in no way be confused with fact, truth, or reality and is hereby qualified in the following ways: 1) The author does not know as much about baseball as Lou Piniella. 2) The author does not know as much about baseball as Jim Hendry. 3) The author does not know as much about baseball as either Dusty or Darren Baker.
by DGU on Dec 31, 2008 1:50 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I'll sec that Rec.
No sense blowing a blood vessel over something you can’t control.
Yes, yes ... winter is indeed a pond upon which all of us must skate, braving frostbite and runny noses in the hopes that our cars will start and we shan't embarass ourselves slipping on a patch of black ice. Spring is more a quagmire of cold mud and slush, and fall is a pile of fallen leaves that may or may not hide a pile of doggy doo-doo. But summer, ah summer is an oasis of endless green that disappears all too quickly beneath our feet as we rush through its warm, glorious bliss.
by dat cubfan daver on Dec 31, 2008 1:55 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Not only what one can't control
but what else is yet to be done.
Sweet Lou for Mayor in '11.
by blackhawk24 on Dec 31, 2008 2:57 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
MAybe Hendy thinks that if he makes the team regress, they will be like the 2006 Cardinals
Let the Blaine Gabbert era begin.
by nji232 on Dec 31, 2008 1:09 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Yes that's it
Hendry is trying to make the team worse!
by rlpete on Dec 31, 2008 1:11 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I know that this has been a slow off-season
…but why not wait for all of the cards to fall before claiming this is a good trade or a bad trade? Just listen to (us)!
by leothelip on Dec 31, 2008 1:11 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
I Just got my questioned answered by Callis!!!!
Bren, NY: Any idea what the Cubs may or may not be doing with these pitchers they just got from Cleveland for DeRosa?
Jim Callis: (2:10 PM ET ) The Cubs just flipped DeRosa for Jeff Stevens, John Gaub and Chris Archer. This looks like the prelude to another deal, possibly for Jake Peavy. They’re on the verge of dealing Jason Marquis to the Rockies, clearing his salary, something else they wanted to do before getting Peavy. My guess is some or all of those pitchers go to San Diego with Josh Vitters and others (Kevin Hart?) for Peavy. They’re about to sign (it may be official) Aaron Miles to fill in at second base, too.
just one experts opinion, but hey
Okay, just so I understand it... in your wildest fantasy, you are in hell. And you are co-running a bed and breakfast with the devil.
by bren on Dec 31, 2008 1:11 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
I like that one better than most of the doom above.
by N Oakley on Dec 31, 2008 1:12 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
That would be nice
Although after the last failed talks, I kind of what to see Vitters become a star for us, sort of like a giant middle finger to SD
Okay, just so I understand it... in your wildest fantasy, you are in hell. And you are co-running a bed and breakfast with the devil.
by bren on Dec 31, 2008 1:13 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I don't know what to think now
This is just making my head hurt
Let the Blaine Gabbert era begin.
by nji232 on Dec 31, 2008 1:13 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Its gotta be something, right?
If Lou was upset about losing DeRosa in the original Peavy talks, then Hendry must have something else cooking to placate Piniella
Okay, just so I understand it... in your wildest fantasy, you are in hell. And you are co-running a bed and breakfast with the devil.
by bren on Dec 31, 2008 1:14 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah on one hand I trust the words of Bruce Miles
On the other hand I want to think that Jim Hendry isn’t an idiot.
Something was said to Lou to make him happy thats for sure.
Let the Blaine Gabbert era begin.
by nji232 on Dec 31, 2008 1:17 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Seems
Lou would be pretty ticked about adding 3 prospects for DeRo. These guys are going elsewhere…
SORIANO! YESSSSSSSS! JIMBO!!!
by CubFaninCA on Dec 31, 2008 1:34 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Towers has his deal
set now…
Am really hoping the Cubs can hang onto Vitters…
SORIANO! YESSSSSSSS! JIMBO!!!
by CubFaninCA on Dec 31, 2008 1:33 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Me Too
Perhaps with the volume of players Vitters is not in it?
4pm today?
My 2008 Christmas wish list includes this jersey. In Hendry We Trust!
by initram on Dec 31, 2008 1:34 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Gotta trade Pie now
Maybe 6 pm.
SORIANO! YESSSSSSSS! JIMBO!!!
by CubFaninCA on Dec 31, 2008 1:34 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
He's Likely In The Peavy Deal
My 2008 Christmas wish list includes this jersey. In Hendry We Trust!
by initram on Dec 31, 2008 1:35 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Indirectly...
Perhaps he’d go to Balt for that one guy we talked about before, then that guy will be flipped along with 2/3 of the guys Hendry got from the Tribe. Who knows, maybe he’ll be able to keep the best of the 3 that just came from Cleveland.
Sweet Lou for Mayor in '11.
by blackhawk24 on Dec 31, 2008 2:59 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I Put This In The Miles Thread...
… but if my math is right, adding Bradley, Peavy, Miles, Vizcaino, Gathright…
… and then subtracting DeRosa, Marquis (with $1M), Pie, Cedeno…
would put our payroll at about $153M.
My 2008 Christmas wish list includes this jersey. In Hendry We Trust!
by initram on Dec 31, 2008 1:12 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
I think your math is wrong...
I have it at around $140 million.
by SouthernCub on Dec 31, 2008 1:20 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
You've Added...
… Bradley and Peavy?
My 2008 Christmas wish list includes this jersey. In Hendry We Trust!
by initram on Dec 31, 2008 1:21 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
so we looking at:
a lineup of:
soriano lf
fontenot/miles 2b
lee 1b
ramirez 3b
bradley rf
soto c
theriot ss
fukudome cf
and a rotation of:
z
dempster
peavy
harden
lilly?
by cubs2410 on Dec 31, 2008 1:15 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
the rotation looks really great. the starting lineup seems a bit worse than last year's....
"I'm not much of a chemistry guy, you know. Chemistry to me is a pinch-hit double with the bases loaded"--Jim Frey, Chicago Tribune, 1985.
by zevkalman on Dec 31, 2008 1:18 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
why does Lilly have a question mark
Let the Blaine Gabbert era begin.
by nji232 on Dec 31, 2008 1:18 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
because he also has a burgeoning career
as a strong safety for the Bears.
"That’s the great thing about baseball, you never know what’s going to happen till you get the final out." — Lou Piniella
by drewishdrewid on Dec 31, 2008 1:19 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
while center for the bulls and goalie for the blackhawks
Ted Lilly is a busy guy
Let the Blaine Gabbert era begin.
by nji232 on Dec 31, 2008 1:21 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I won't speak for hoops
but we have our goalies. :^)
Sweet Lou for Mayor in '11.
by blackhawk24 on Dec 31, 2008 2:59 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Ted Lilly doesn't ask questions...
…he answers them. Then we watches the ambulance arrive.
Yes, yes ... winter is indeed a pond upon which all of us must skate, braving frostbite and runny noses in the hopes that our cars will start and we shan't embarass ourselves slipping on a patch of black ice. Spring is more a quagmire of cold mud and slush, and fall is a pile of fallen leaves that may or may not hide a pile of doggy doo-doo. But summer, ah summer is an oasis of endless green that disappears all too quickly beneath our feet as we rush through its warm, glorious bliss.
by dat cubfan daver on Dec 31, 2008 1:19 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
He doesn't like his name called out in vain.
"I'm not much of a chemistry guy, you know. Chemistry to me is a pinch-hit double with the bases loaded"--Jim Frey, Chicago Tribune, 1985.
by zevkalman on Dec 31, 2008 1:20 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
because when Ted Lilly is around
periods magically disappear. This explains why all women in a 100 yard radius of him can instantly become pregnant.
As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.
by santoswoodenlegs on Dec 31, 2008 1:24 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
My rhymes are so potent...
…I made all of the area ladies pregnant.
Yes, yes ... winter is indeed a pond upon which all of us must skate, braving frostbite and runny noses in the hopes that our cars will start and we shan't embarass ourselves slipping on a patch of black ice. Spring is more a quagmire of cold mud and slush, and fall is a pile of fallen leaves that may or may not hide a pile of doggy doo-doo. But summer, ah summer is an oasis of endless green that disappears all too quickly beneath our feet as we rush through its warm, glorious bliss.
by dat cubfan daver on Dec 31, 2008 1:26 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
FOTC!
I haz blurg: hotbeans.wordpress.com
by digitalbenjamin on Dec 31, 2008 1:29 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
awww yeah!
Yes, yes ... winter is indeed a pond upon which all of us must skate, braving frostbite and runny noses in the hopes that our cars will start and we shan't embarass ourselves slipping on a patch of black ice. Spring is more a quagmire of cold mud and slush, and fall is a pile of fallen leaves that may or may not hide a pile of doggy doo-doo. But summer, ah summer is an oasis of endless green that disappears all too quickly beneath our feet as we rush through its warm, glorious bliss.
by dat cubfan daver on Dec 31, 2008 1:35 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
That's "offensive and creative
like handicapped porn" – Bo Burnham
"This is an environment of welcoming, and you should just get the hell outta here." --Michael Scott
by Reddevil on Dec 31, 2008 2:11 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
harden probably moves to 5 instead of lilly
that way he can get a game off every so often to preserve his arm
by Cubinator on Dec 31, 2008 1:34 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Well when all the other pitchers are hurt come june
we know Ted will be there throwing no hitters every five days.
Let the Blaine Gabbert era begin.
by nji232 on Dec 31, 2008 1:37 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
sorry ? was meant for end of my post..
as asking if you guys think this is what we will see and your opinions… im worried about our depth… whose backing up 3rd?
by cubs2410 on Dec 31, 2008 1:23 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
boy
too bad we lost McGeehee!
"That’s the great thing about baseball, you never know what’s going to happen till you get the final out." — Lou Piniella
by drewishdrewid on Dec 31, 2008 1:25 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
miles can play all infield positions if needed
Let the Blaine Gabbert era begin.
by nji232 on Dec 31, 2008 1:26 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
And...
… all OF positions
My 2008 Christmas wish list includes this jersey. In Hendry We Trust!
by initram on Dec 31, 2008 1:29 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
hell
let the man pitch!
"That’s the great thing about baseball, you never know what’s going to happen till you get the final out." — Lou Piniella
by drewishdrewid on Dec 31, 2008 1:30 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
and Catch Slop Games?
My 2008 Christmas wish list includes this jersey. In Hendry We Trust!
by initram on Dec 31, 2008 1:31 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
let's be honest
he’s really here to replace Lou.
"That’s the great thing about baseball, you never know what’s going to happen till you get the final out." — Lou Piniella
by drewishdrewid on Dec 31, 2008 1:33 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Wait...we now have someone who can actually play SS?
As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.
by santoswoodenlegs on Dec 31, 2008 1:36 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
HENDRY GO FUCK YOURSELF
YOU DUMBASS BITCH, YOU BETTER GET ADAM DUNN OR YOU SHOULD BE THROWN OUT ON THE STREET.
by cliffyhoops03 on Dec 31, 2008 1:25 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
FINALLY someone with a rational take on the situation.
Yes, yes ... winter is indeed a pond upon which all of us must skate, braving frostbite and runny noses in the hopes that our cars will start and we shan't embarass ourselves slipping on a patch of black ice. Spring is more a quagmire of cold mud and slush, and fall is a pile of fallen leaves that may or may not hide a pile of doggy doo-doo. But summer, ah summer is an oasis of endless green that disappears all too quickly beneath our feet as we rush through its warm, glorious bliss.
by dat cubfan daver on Dec 31, 2008 1:27 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
so how do you really feel?
I love to play baseball. I'm a baseball player. I've always been a baseball player. I'm still a baseball player. That's who I am. - Ryne Sandberg
by Trey2317 on Dec 31, 2008 1:28 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Been drinkin' a little too much before midnight, heh?
"I'm not much of a chemistry guy, you know. Chemistry to me is a pinch-hit double with the bases loaded"--Jim Frey, Chicago Tribune, 1985.
by zevkalman on Dec 31, 2008 1:28 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
He'll be passed out before the ball drops in Times Square.
Yes, yes ... winter is indeed a pond upon which all of us must skate, braving frostbite and runny noses in the hopes that our cars will start and we shan't embarass ourselves slipping on a patch of black ice. Spring is more a quagmire of cold mud and slush, and fall is a pile of fallen leaves that may or may not hide a pile of doggy doo-doo. But summer, ah summer is an oasis of endless green that disappears all too quickly beneath our feet as we rush through its warm, glorious bliss.
by dat cubfan daver on Dec 31, 2008 1:36 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Maybe he's coming to us from Moscow
It’s 12:01 AM there.
Sweet Lou for Mayor in '11.
by blackhawk24 on Dec 31, 2008 3:01 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I haz blurg: hotbeans.wordpress.com
by digitalbenjamin on Dec 31, 2008 1:30 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.
by santoswoodenlegs on Dec 31, 2008 1:37 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
LOL, nice.
Looking more and more unlikely. But nice.
Yes, yes ... winter is indeed a pond upon which all of us must skate, braving frostbite and runny noses in the hopes that our cars will start and we shan't embarass ourselves slipping on a patch of black ice. Spring is more a quagmire of cold mud and slush, and fall is a pile of fallen leaves that may or may not hide a pile of doggy doo-doo. But summer, ah summer is an oasis of endless green that disappears all too quickly beneath our feet as we rush through its warm, glorious bliss.
by dat cubfan daver on Dec 31, 2008 1:38 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
It'll Be...
… Gameboard.
My 2008 Christmas wish list includes this jersey. In Hendry We Trust!
by initram on Dec 31, 2008 1:38 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I think this is...
an alternate user name for DeroMyHero, who is clearly venting after learning of the news.
Free Ronny Cedeno
by Kansas25 on Dec 31, 2008 1:38 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Oh man...you could be right.
Someone better check on her.
Yes, yes ... winter is indeed a pond upon which all of us must skate, braving frostbite and runny noses in the hopes that our cars will start and we shan't embarass ourselves slipping on a patch of black ice. Spring is more a quagmire of cold mud and slush, and fall is a pile of fallen leaves that may or may not hide a pile of doggy doo-doo. But summer, ah summer is an oasis of endless green that disappears all too quickly beneath our feet as we rush through its warm, glorious bliss.
by dat cubfan daver on Dec 31, 2008 1:39 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Question.
Now that DeRosa has been/is being traded. Will DeRoMyHero still appear?
by N Oakley on Dec 31, 2008 1:40 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I get the impression she is, overall, a Cubs fan...
…so I would think so. I hope she does – she really knows her stuff.
Yes, yes ... winter is indeed a pond upon which all of us must skate, braving frostbite and runny noses in the hopes that our cars will start and we shan't embarass ourselves slipping on a patch of black ice. Spring is more a quagmire of cold mud and slush, and fall is a pile of fallen leaves that may or may not hide a pile of doggy doo-doo. But summer, ah summer is an oasis of endless green that disappears all too quickly beneath our feet as we rush through its warm, glorious bliss.
by dat cubfan daver on Dec 31, 2008 1:46 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Remember a few weeks ago
when she would obsessively speculate the imminent trading of DeRosa, without any outside media saying anything similar (i.e. before the WInter Meetings)? Yeah, well, she was right all along. I believe she is a Cubs fan overall – she sent me a DVD copy of the WGN anniversary special … someone interested only in DeRo would not give a rat’s ass about Jack Brickhouse or Milo Frigging Hamilton.
"Who's Bob Brenly? The guy that used to be the manager for Arizona?" ~ Alfonso Guilleard Soriano
by JohnM on Dec 31, 2008 3:07 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
That's true.
I believe she did raise the possibility of a DeRo trade on multiple occasions.
Yes, yes ... winter is indeed a pond upon which all of us must skate, braving frostbite and runny noses in the hopes that our cars will start and we shan't embarass ourselves slipping on a patch of black ice. Spring is more a quagmire of cold mud and slush, and fall is a pile of fallen leaves that may or may not hide a pile of doggy doo-doo. But summer, ah summer is an oasis of endless green that disappears all too quickly beneath our feet as we rush through its warm, glorious bliss.
by dat cubfan daver on Dec 31, 2008 3:27 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Not a tough call...
Jim Hendry wrote it in 3 inch block letters with flourescent-colored invisible ink.
"I've never complained about it. I'm thankful to have a jersey." Mark DeRosa, 22 Aug 2007
by DeRoMyHero on Dec 31, 2008 4:13 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Well, a number of people dismissed the idea out of hand...
…so kudos to you.
Yes, yes ... winter is indeed a pond upon which all of us must skate, braving frostbite and runny noses in the hopes that our cars will start and we shan't embarass ourselves slipping on a patch of black ice. Spring is more a quagmire of cold mud and slush, and fall is a pile of fallen leaves that may or may not hide a pile of doggy doo-doo. But summer, ah summer is an oasis of endless green that disappears all too quickly beneath our feet as we rush through its warm, glorious bliss.
by dat cubfan daver on Dec 31, 2008 4:18 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
If only I could read the invisible ink on lottery tickets that well...
"I've never complained about it. I'm thankful to have a jersey." Mark DeRosa, 22 Aug 2007
by DeRoMyHero on Dec 31, 2008 5:51 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Did he?
OK, you divined the logic that if anyone was going to be traded in addition to Marquis, it would be DeRosa, because he was the only tradeable contract that would save any money and get something of value back.
But Hendry was not saying in day-glo or any other color scheme that he needed/wanted to cut payroll. The public goals of getting more left handed, more athletic, whatever, could be done with one free agent signing and certainly didn’t require a trade.
What did you hear so clearly that no one else heard? (Prior to the first media mention of DeRosa in a Peavy 3-way)?
"Who's Bob Brenly? The guy that used to be the manager for Arizona?" ~ Alfonso Guilleard Soriano
by JohnM on Jan 1, 2009 4:15 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Actually, his co-author was Teflon Lou
1. Lou wanted him gone after 2007, to be replaced by Kaz Matsui or Brian Roberts.
2. Lou batted him lower in the order than he deserved.
3. Lou treated him like a utility player rather than a starting 2B.
4. Lou has complained about not having a LHB in RF despite being given Jacque Jones, Cliff Floyd, Jim Edmonds, and Kosuke Fukudome. While none of those guys are all-stars (well, Dome was but should not have been), Milton Bradley won’t be healthy enough to make the all-star team either.
5. Lou refused to take any responsibility for the playoff failure (a condition known in Denver as Shanahanitis), instead insisting that he needed better, more left-handed, players than those who won 97 games during the regular season.
6. Crane Kenney at first announced a $130M payroll figure, then revised it to $140M. Simple spreadsheet arithmetic showed that either Harden or DeRo would have to go to afford a FA RF.
7. Lou and Hendry both said that they wanted to get “more athletic”.
Managers tend to speak volumes with their handling of players, and I have learned through the years to read their message.
"I've never complained about it. I'm thankful to have a jersey." Mark DeRosa, 22 Aug 2007
by DeRoMyHero on Jan 1, 2009 11:27 AM CST up reply actions 2 recs
only if you look in a mirror and say her name 3 times
As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.
by santoswoodenlegs on Dec 31, 2008 1:46 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
My mourning veil is on and I am still here...
"I've never complained about it. I'm thankful to have a jersey." Mark DeRosa, 22 Aug 2007
by DeRoMyHero on Dec 31, 2008 4:10 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
My condolences.
Yes, yes ... winter is indeed a pond upon which all of us must skate, braving frostbite and runny noses in the hopes that our cars will start and we shan't embarass ourselves slipping on a patch of black ice. Spring is more a quagmire of cold mud and slush, and fall is a pile of fallen leaves that may or may not hide a pile of doggy doo-doo. But summer, ah summer is an oasis of endless green that disappears all too quickly beneath our feet as we rush through its warm, glorious bliss.
by dat cubfan daver on Dec 31, 2008 4:18 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Thank you.
Please pass the Kleenex…
"I've never complained about it. I'm thankful to have a jersey." Mark DeRosa, 22 Aug 2007
by DeRoMyHero on Dec 31, 2008 5:36 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
This post is not acceptable on this site.
Cut the profanity. Now.
"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx
by Al on Dec 31, 2008 4:29 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Why???
Sweet Lou for Mayor in '11.
by blackhawk24 on Dec 31, 2008 3:01 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I liked what
DeRosa brought to this team.
by sue369 on Dec 31, 2008 7:35 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Question- if the three from Cleveland aren't being packaged
in another deal, is this really the best Hendry could get for DeRosa??? If they’re going to SD or wherever, and that’s who the other GM wanted, so be it. Otherwise, it sure seems like there should have been a better return for the 2009 Cubs.
"Enough foreplay- let's get crackin'"- Fred Garvin
by davidalanu on Dec 31, 2008 3:10 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
This is why...
…I’m holding out some hope that this is a precursor to either Peavy or maybe Brian Roberts (can’t believe I just typed that) or maybe a third player no one is expecting.
Having read toonsterwu’s recent minor league lists, it seems to me the Cubs system is pretty well stocked with mid-level pitching prospects, so I don’t see why Hendry would throw three more on the pile. Although “the DeRosa Three” don’t appear much to write home about, perhaps they rated highly with San Diego’s scouts.
Yes, yes ... winter is indeed a pond upon which all of us must skate, braving frostbite and runny noses in the hopes that our cars will start and we shan't embarass ourselves slipping on a patch of black ice. Spring is more a quagmire of cold mud and slush, and fall is a pile of fallen leaves that may or may not hide a pile of doggy doo-doo. But summer, ah summer is an oasis of endless green that disappears all too quickly beneath our feet as we rush through its warm, glorious bliss.
by dat cubfan daver on Dec 31, 2008 3:32 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Maybe "the DeRosa Three" are just great guys who
really know how to party. You can never have enough of those types in your clubhouse.
"Hats for bats.....keep bats warm." - Pedro Cerrano
"Hey bartender, Jobu needs a refill !!!!!!!" - Eddie Harris
by willie mays hayes' gloves on Dec 31, 2008 3:36 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
They're gamechangers, leaders, poet-warriors.
They will lead us to the Promised Land.
Yes, yes ... winter is indeed a pond upon which all of us must skate, braving frostbite and runny noses in the hopes that our cars will start and we shan't embarass ourselves slipping on a patch of black ice. Spring is more a quagmire of cold mud and slush, and fall is a pile of fallen leaves that may or may not hide a pile of doggy doo-doo. But summer, ah summer is an oasis of endless green that disappears all too quickly beneath our feet as we rush through its warm, glorious bliss.
by dat cubfan daver on Dec 31, 2008 3:54 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Here, here. Let's hear it for the "the DRosa Three".
"Hats for bats.....keep bats warm." - Pedro Cerrano
"Hey bartender, Jobu needs a refill !!!!!!!" - Eddie Harris
by willie mays hayes' gloves on Dec 31, 2008 3:59 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
How 'bout "The DeRo Trio"?
Yes, yes ... winter is indeed a pond upon which all of us must skate, braving frostbite and runny noses in the hopes that our cars will start and we shan't embarass ourselves slipping on a patch of black ice. Spring is more a quagmire of cold mud and slush, and fall is a pile of fallen leaves that may or may not hide a pile of doggy doo-doo. But summer, ah summer is an oasis of endless green that disappears all too quickly beneath our feet as we rush through its warm, glorious bliss.
by dat cubfan daver on Dec 31, 2008 4:03 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Seeking volunteers...
As you know, the main object of my Cubbie affection, Mark DeRosa, is no longer a Cub. That makes my username somewhat… dated.
Therefore, I need to get banned by Al so that DeRoMyHero can be forever retired on BCB. I need one or more of my BCB compatriots to volunteer to be a mambochicken so that I can demonstrate a thorough knowledge of French and get Al to pull the plug.
Any volunteers?
"I've never complained about it. I'm thankful to have a jersey." Mark DeRosa, 22 Aug 2007
by DeRoMyHero on Dec 31, 2008 4:19 PM CST reply actions 1 recs
LMAO
I’m not going to ban you. Any other suggestions?
"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx
by Al on Dec 31, 2008 4:30 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Aw, c'mon, Al...
…give her a chance. She hasn’t issued a single “Pound sand!” yet.
Yes, yes ... winter is indeed a pond upon which all of us must skate, braving frostbite and runny noses in the hopes that our cars will start and we shan't embarass ourselves slipping on a patch of black ice. Spring is more a quagmire of cold mud and slush, and fall is a pile of fallen leaves that may or may not hide a pile of doggy doo-doo. But summer, ah summer is an oasis of endless green that disappears all too quickly beneath our feet as we rush through its warm, glorious bliss.
by dat cubfan daver on Dec 31, 2008 4:31 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
LOL
Also, since usernames are SBN-wide, she could go post at Let’s Go Tribe with that name.
"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx
by Al on Dec 31, 2008 4:33 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Already have...
"I've never complained about it. I'm thankful to have a jersey." Mark DeRosa, 22 Aug 2007
by DeRoMyHero on Dec 31, 2008 4:51 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
How about "TheposterformallyknownasDeRoMyHero"....
As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.
by santoswoodenlegs on Dec 31, 2008 4:31 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I have to get "DeRoMyHero" retired first...
… and I would prefer to have it go out in a blaze of glory!
"I've never complained about it. I'm thankful to have a jersey." Mark DeRosa, 22 Aug 2007
by DeRoMyHero on Dec 31, 2008 4:54 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
or "DeRoMyOtherHero"
it may take awhile, but assuming you’re a true Cubs fan, I think eventually you’ll find another Cubbie worthy of your affection. In the interim, I think DeRoMyOtherHero gets the point across that you’re still pulling for DeRo, just as long as his interests don’t conflict with the Cubs’ interests.
Capiche?
Lou Brown: "My kinda team, Charlie, my kinda team..."
by ballhawk on Jan 1, 2009 3:20 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
There is no other hero before DeRo...
…and my other favorite MOT is about to be traded as well.
"I've never complained about it. I'm thankful to have a jersey." Mark DeRosa, 22 Aug 2007
by DeRoMyHero on Jan 1, 2009 11:28 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Could you share KOW's secret formula with me?
Please?
"I've never complained about it. I'm thankful to have a jersey." Mark DeRosa, 22 Aug 2007
by DeRoMyHero on Dec 31, 2008 4:52 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
LOL
You’ve got a LONG way to go before you get there!
Besides, I’d know you’re doing it on purpose. Email me if you want to discuss some options for DeRoMyHero.
"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx
by Al on Dec 31, 2008 5:21 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Every long journey begins with a first step...
The problem is that you’re onto me. I either have to keep DeRoMyHero or have it die a glorious death — just riding quietly off into the sunset is not an option.
I should have been studying BlueMike more carefully…
"I've never complained about it. I'm thankful to have a jersey." Mark DeRosa, 22 Aug 2007
by DeRoMyHero on Dec 31, 2008 5:35 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
You obviously don't want to leave the site, right?
Email me.
"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx
by Al on Dec 31, 2008 5:48 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
How about
“Classic Single with Cheese”.
Kwa...Ki...Sur...Pee...Nee...Ku?
by Kinky Reggae on Dec 31, 2008 5:48 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
cant you just create another user name?
Okay, just so I understand it... in your wildest fantasy, you are in hell. And you are co-running a bed and breakfast with the devil.
by bren on Dec 31, 2008 6:36 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I don't think so....
Al’s world…
Kwa...Ki...Sur...Pee...Nee...Ku?
by Kinky Reggae on Dec 31, 2008 6:45 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
so its only one account per IP address?
Okay, just so I understand it... in your wildest fantasy, you are in hell. And you are co-running a bed and breakfast with the devil.
by bren on Dec 31, 2008 7:09 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Shut up! And then Shut up some more!
Book of Worf – Chapter 3, Verse 2
Lou Brown: "My kinda team, Charlie, my kinda team..."
by ballhawk on Jan 1, 2009 3:15 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I don't know
Jessica is still Doggie Stalker and stills posts All Maddux All the Time FanPosts. No one doubts her dedication to the current Cubs. You could keep the moniker, assuming you’re still going to follow him — which everyone knows you will.
"Who's Bob Brenly? The guy that used to be the manager for Arizona?" ~ Alfonso Guilleard Soriano
by JohnM on Jan 1, 2009 4:20 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Jessica...
…. only became “Doggie Stalker” because the name “Jessica” was already taken by someone else with more “seniority” at SBN.
"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx
by Al on Jan 1, 2009 8:30 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I know,
and I will look to Jessica for inspiration during this difficult time.
"I've never complained about it. I'm thankful to have a jersey." Mark DeRosa, 22 Aug 2007
by DeRoMyHero on Jan 1, 2009 11:29 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
XM Radio
was speculating that these may be the pospects needed to complete a BRob trade with MacPhail.
Kwa...Ki...Sur...Pee...Nee...Ku?
by Kinky Reggae on Dec 31, 2008 5:25 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
XM...
… doesn’t know what it is talking about.
"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx
by Al on Dec 31, 2008 5:30 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
While normally I agree with this statement
and I think Dibble is a moron, the idea that these were prospects that perhaps made the deal possible did not seem completely absurd. Roberts is ready to go, and the Os want to get younger prospects that the Cubs never had. Trading DeRo opens up second base, leadoff is still an issue (Miles or no Miles), and we all know Roberts is coveted. Not saying it is the case but the idea is not as crazy as I first thought.
That all being said, I suppose if there is a deal in the works, it is more likely a Peavy deal.
Kwa...Ki...Sur...Pee...Nee...Ku?
by Kinky Reggae on Dec 31, 2008 5:47 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Possible, but why does Miles sign as a super-sub
then???
SORIANO! YESSSSSSSS! JIMBO!!!
by CubFaninCA on Dec 31, 2008 6:10 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Backup for all IF positions.
Kwa...Ki...Sur...Pee...Nee...Ku?
by Kinky Reggae on Dec 31, 2008 6:13 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
It seems he could be a starter somewhere
He has a good chance of starting over Fontenot, so can understand why he signed..
SORIANO! YESSSSSSSS! JIMBO!!!
by CubFaninCA on Dec 31, 2008 6:35 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Do you see Miles as in high demand?
Maybe he knows Soriano will eventually get hurt and Ramirez will have his usual quad trouble
Okay, just so I understand it... in your wildest fantasy, you are in hell. And you are co-running a bed and breakfast with the devil.
by bren on Dec 31, 2008 6:38 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Not high demand
but his numbers suggest he can start somewhere..
SORIANO! YESSSSSSSS! JIMBO!!!
by CubFaninCA on Dec 31, 2008 7:00 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I don't think anyone was looking at him to start
but either way, we gave him good money. Miles does have a decent chance of stealing quite a bit of SS time.
The author of this post is not a certified scout, doctor, agent, statistician, manager, or journalist, nor was he ever a very good player, though he tried very hard to be like Ryne Sandberg and was about as scrappy as it gets (in T-ball). Any opinion expressed above should in no way be confused with fact, truth, or reality and is hereby qualified in the following ways: 1) The author does not know as much about baseball as Lou Piniella. 2) The author does not know as much about baseball as Jim Hendry. 3) The author does not know as much about baseball as either Dusty or Darren Baker.
by DGU on Dec 31, 2008 11:14 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I just don't see him as the starting 2B for 2009
I am guessing Hendry wants something as productive if not more in the middle IF. I think that Miles is more of a DeRo replacement as far as his super sub element is concerned. The Cubs could benefit from a starting middle IF who hits for avg, gets on base a lot, and can lead off.
Kwa...Ki...Sur...Pee...Nee...Ku?
by Kinky Reggae on Dec 31, 2008 6:44 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Officially have an AL team
I never thought I’d care about another team than The Cubs but I’m actually quite invested in watching any Indians game on TV this year now. Mostly because of Wood but DeRosa really turned into the Cubs MVP in too many games this year. I’m getting tickets when Indians play Yankees and this will be the first ever non Cubs game I’m attending.
by ak123 on Dec 31, 2008 6:13 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
And, don't forget, for those in Chicago...
… the Tribe is at Wrigley June 19-20-21.
"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx
by Al on Dec 31, 2008 10:22 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I'm pi**ed !!
One of my favorite players. I can’t believe Derosa’s been traded. Wasn’t he a hard nosed player who gave us his all ?!? This is gonna take a while for me to swallow.
by MontrealCubbie on Jan 1, 2009 9:00 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Did anybody else hear Derosa on Sports Central earlier with Dave Kaplan?
He sounded absolutely heartbroken/betrayed and although he acted like he was going to be okay with the transition he sounded to me like he was about to tear up at certain moments.
After the interview Kaplan said that he expected Hendry to come out with a big deal soon otherwise there are questions that need to be answered.
"Chicago Cubs fans are ninety percent scar-tissue." -George F. Will
by In Piniella We Trustiella on Jan 2, 2009 11:16 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
derosa
just a dump to free up money for bradley.cedeno,pie,and hill are kept on the roster or can be had by any team.so trade these guys or lose them for cash.i can only see hill clearing waivers due to his self destruction.
by NOMAR on Jan 3, 2009 4:37 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
As I said, we will RUE the day of this trade
I can smell it coming. With the way the ball has bounced on the Cubs the past few years, we’re going to really miss the bat and the versatility that DeRo brought.
When everyone’s bat goes south or sneezes their back out of shape or something, we’re going to expect Miles and Gathright to carry us, right?
I didn’t mind acquiring them. Losing DeRosa to do so for prospects it’ll take a few more years to get when we are trying to win NOW isn’t reassuring.
Then again, we are the NL Central Champions two years in a row. So I guess that’s saying something. Be kind of nice if we could win more after October 2, though .. and without DeRo, it’s going to be harder. Don’t give a rip what anyone says. There’s a big hole the square pegs we’ve got on the bench may not fill too well ..
Well, Next Year is here .. and Jack's century's gotta end some time .. GO CUBBIES!
by cubnational on Jan 3, 2009 11:13 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Can someone
Enlighten me on Derosa . I don’t get to see many Cub games and Derosa Numbers have been great the past two years along with his versatility. But my biggest question is what type of hitter and fielder was he? was he that good hitting in clutch game situations. if not .was he at least a good table setter? also could you depend on him to make that big play in the field?
by NYCUB FAN on Jan 4, 2009 11:38 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
DeRo is a professional hitter.
Lou misused him by batting him low in the order. He’s actually an ideal #2 hitter. Good in the clutch, though he isn’t Manny Ramirez. 3B is his best position, and I personally think he is a better SS than 2B, though he is adequate at either. He is a better COF than most people realize, though he’ll never win a gold glove out there. He is also a leader and a huge clubhouse presence.
Lou apparently wanted him gone, and Aaron Miles has some very big shoes to fill.
"I've never complained about it. I'm thankful to have a jersey." Mark DeRosa, 22 Aug 2007
by DeRoMyHero on Jan 4, 2009 11:53 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
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