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DeRosa to the Indians

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ESPN.com is reporting that DeRosa has been traded to the Indians for 3 players.

 

I do not like the sound of this!

 

Mark DeRosa, who had been rumored to be a part of three- and four-team scenarios in the Jake Peavy trade talks is finally headed out of Chicago -- but not in a deal for the San Diego Padres' ace.

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DeRosa has been traded to the Cleveland Indians for three players, sources told ESPN The Magazine's Buster Olney.

DeRosa hit 21 home runs and drove in 87 runs for the Cubs last season, appearing in 149 games. He played 97 games at second base.

He will be 34 when the 2009 season begins.

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Please let one of those Indians be Adam Miller.

by Great Odin's Raven on Dec 31, 2008 12:32 PM CST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Nope

Jeff Stevens, Chris Archer and John Gaub, according to the Cleveland Plain-Dealer.

by Great Odin's Raven on Dec 31, 2008 12:33 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I'll root for Cleveland this year

but I don’t mind at all if it means a rotation of Peavy, Harden, Zambrano, Dempster and Lilly.

"Who's Bob Brenly? The guy that used to be the manager for Arizona?" ~ Alfonso Guilleard Soriano

by JohnM on Dec 31, 2008 12:32 PM CST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

+1

100 years would have been nice, but 101 years still has a nice ring to it.

by airweino on Dec 31, 2008 12:50 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

what a way to ring in the new year

Okay, just so I understand it... in your wildest fantasy, you are in hell. And you are co-running a bed and breakfast with the devil.

by bren on Dec 31, 2008 12:55 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I dont thing there is any doubt

Peavy will soon be a Cub. Thats the only way I see Henry doing any of this

2008 has to be the year, doesnt it?

by indytaz on Dec 31, 2008 12:34 PM CST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

You would think...

but do you really think the Padres would be interested in these guys? Only one of them was on Cleveland’s 40-man roster.

by Great Odin's Raven on Dec 31, 2008 12:35 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

If this deal is to set up another.....

……you can bet that Hendry knew before trading DeRosa that these were the exact guys the other team wanted.

"Baseball is like church- many attend, few understand." ~ Leo Durocher

by The Lip on Dec 31, 2008 12:37 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Wait a minute...

thought SD wanted near-MLB ready players in return, not prospects.

Sweet Lou for Mayor in '11.

by blackhawk24 on Dec 31, 2008 12:36 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I always had a dividing line of

MLB-ready being top guy in AA or AAA, prospects in rookie league through low/high class A. But hey that’s just me.

Sweet Lou for Mayor in '11.

by blackhawk24 on Dec 31, 2008 12:46 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Stevens....

…..looks to be a MLB ready bullpen arm. The other guys look like power arms- one starter and another pen guy potentially.

"Baseball is like church- many attend, few understand." ~ Leo Durocher

by The Lip on Dec 31, 2008 12:44 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Gotta believe it's a prelude to something else.

Why do this trade when in win now mode unless it is to set up something else?

Something gonna happen!

"Baseball is like church- many attend, few understand." ~ Leo Durocher

by The Lip on Dec 31, 2008 12:35 PM CST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

My hope is that...

this isn’t a deal simply to clear space for Bradley. I have to hope that this means we’re bringing in a big-name pitcher as well. If not, this would make the Bradley signing an even bigger gamble than it already seems to be.

by SouthernCub on Dec 31, 2008 12:38 PM CST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

shoot shoot SHOOT

I really don’t think this is a good idea. You need FOUR guys to replace DeRosa.

"That’s the great thing about baseball, you never know what’s going to happen till you get the final out." — Lou Piniella

by drewishdrewid on Dec 31, 2008 12:38 PM CST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

They Got Three...

…in Miles. An remember, DeRo is righty.

My 2008 Christmas wish list includes this jersey. In Hendry We Trust!

by initram on Dec 31, 2008 12:57 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

so what?

"That’s the great thing about baseball, you never know what’s going to happen till you get the final out." — Lou Piniella

by drewishdrewid on Dec 31, 2008 12:58 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Something bigger is brewing

The only way this makes sense is if we get Peavy. So the question is would you rather have

Kerry Wood, Mark DeRosa, Jason Marquis, and Sean Marshall or

Kevin Gregg, Milton Bradley, Jake Peavy, and Aaron Miles?

Let the Blaine Gabbert era begin.

by nji232 on Dec 31, 2008 12:40 PM CST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I dunno...

I just don’t know…

"That’s the great thing about baseball, you never know what’s going to happen till you get the final out." — Lou Piniella

by drewishdrewid on Dec 31, 2008 12:51 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Wood, DeRosa, Marquis and Marshall.

"...the internet is not something you just dump something on. It's not a truck. It's a series of tubes." - Sen. Ted Stevens

by bobby h on Dec 31, 2008 12:51 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Just out of curiosity

How much of that has to do with loyalty towards Kerry Wood? Because that is the main draw of that list to me.

Let the Blaine Gabbert era begin.

by nji232 on Dec 31, 2008 12:56 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

admittedly some...

Part loyalty (for two of my favourite Cubs), part that I feel that we swapped a top-tier closer/set-up man combo for a question mark (as far as Marmol being untested as a closed) and someone with strike zone issues.

I think that Miles/Bradley over DeRosa/? is a net loss. Particularly for a team with power/XBH struggles. I think that DeRosa to Miles is a big step down. I’m sort of in between on Bradley — I see upside but I’m not fully sold — but I think +Bradley, -DeRosa just swaps one hole for another. Especially if Bradley ends up missing a significant part of the season.

I do like Peavy and am happy to see Marquis go, but not nearly enough so to offset the rest.

"...the internet is not something you just dump something on. It's not a truck. It's a series of tubes." - Sen. Ted Stevens

by bobby h on Dec 31, 2008 1:05 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

If Peavy isn't part of the one list its not even a discussion

and Kerry Wood also kind of makes me gravite towards his side anyway but more because Kevin Gregg isn’t good.

Let the Blaine Gabbert era begin.

by nji232 on Dec 31, 2008 1:08 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Ask me again in a year.

It seems that only time will tell. Seems to me the Cubs will enter ’09 with a stronger lineup and better starting pitching, but a weaker bullpen… shrugs

"I see great things in baseball. It's our game - the American game." - Walt Whitman

by hip2bsquare on Dec 31, 2008 12:55 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

The cards (sorry) are all falling in order now

(insert metaphor here)

Adios, Mr. Stevens. It was nice knowing you. You too Felix & Ronnie.

by leothelip on Dec 31, 2008 12:41 PM CST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Once we hit that bullseye, the rest of the dominoes will fall like a house of cards. Checkmate.

"I see great things in baseball. It's our game - the American game." - Walt Whitman

by hip2bsquare on Dec 31, 2008 12:47 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

You sunk my battleship!

Yes, yes ... winter is indeed a pond upon which all of us must skate, braving frostbite and runny noses in the hopes that our cars will start and we shan't embarass ourselves slipping on a patch of black ice. Spring is more a quagmire of cold mud and slush, and fall is a pile of fallen leaves that may or may not hide a pile of doggy doo-doo. But summer, ah summer is an oasis of endless green that disappears all too quickly beneath our feet as we rush through its warm, glorious bliss.

by dat cubfan daver on Dec 31, 2008 12:54 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

WTF is going on here!?

At least he’s back with Woody, but this hasnt really added up yet….its like Hendy is playing connect four and we havent seen the diagonal move yet.

Okay, just so I understand it... in your wildest fantasy, you are in hell. And you are co-running a bed and breakfast with the devil.

by bren on Dec 31, 2008 12:42 PM CST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

It makes sense if Peavy is back in the mix...

If it’s just to clear space for Bradley, then it doesn’t make sense to me.

This is obviously a salary-clearing deal, just like the Marquis trade will be. Miles replaces DeRosa as the utility player but does it for less money (and less productivity). DeRosa will bring prospects, which can then be sent elsewhere for a better pitcher (like Peavy) to replace Marquis.

by SouthernCub on Dec 31, 2008 12:43 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Maybe not though

Unless Hendry knows for sure that either Towers or McPhail wants these guys to precipitate a Peavy or Roberts deal, respectively.

Okay, just so I understand it... in your wildest fantasy, you are in hell. And you are co-running a bed and breakfast with the devil.

by bren on Dec 31, 2008 12:45 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I would imagine Hendry would have discussed the possibilities...

It COULD also be the less appealing salary dump though. I’m hopeful it’s the former.

by SouthernCub on Dec 31, 2008 12:46 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I doubt its a dump when he's in the last year of his deal

And wouldnt have been that far fetched if even got an extension b/c of his performance since he’s been here

Okay, just so I understand it... in your wildest fantasy, you are in hell. And you are co-running a bed and breakfast with the devil.

by bren on Dec 31, 2008 12:49 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

It's a dump if it clears space THIS year...

Trading DeRosa and signing Miles saves $3.5 million this year. For a team that has payroll limitations, that’s a relevant salary dump, even if it’s just this year.

I think the trade is certainly a salary dump. The only question is whether or not it’s just a move to clear space for Bradley or a move to clear space for Bradley AND to get someone for the rotation (after trading Marquis).

by SouthernCub on Dec 31, 2008 12:57 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I try not to swear on here too much, but..

Fucking Zell

Okay, just so I understand it... in your wildest fantasy, you are in hell. And you are co-running a bed and breakfast with the devil.

by bren on Dec 31, 2008 1:00 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I'm still hopeful...

that this clears space for Bradley AND Peavy (or some other nice starting pitcher). Otherwise, I agree.

by SouthernCub on Dec 31, 2008 1:02 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

If it isn't...

…a precursor to something in addition to Bradley, then a terrible trade.

If it means ~140 starts for Miles (with him leading off as Paul Sullivan is suggesting) then it’s even worse.

"...the internet is not something you just dump something on. It's not a truck. It's a series of tubes." - Sen. Ted Stevens

by bobby h on Dec 31, 2008 1:07 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Agreed...

though I’d take whatever Sullivan says with a grain of salt.

by SouthernCub on Dec 31, 2008 1:07 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I also agree

We are looking at another 100 years of the Cubs counting their money and us fans waiting for that RIng, while we line the pockets of the cubs organization.

by Glen Bishop on Dec 31, 2008 2:34 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Chemistry

I think Trading Derosa has something to do with altering some of the chemistry on the team,this is something that no one could see only piniella and the coaches.

by NYCUB FAN on Jan 2, 2009 9:21 AM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Atleast I'm not bored

At work with nothing to do, so this atleast spicing up my afternoon.

WTF happened here?

by indytaz on Dec 31, 2008 12:43 PM CST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

To quote one infamous anchorman

This escalated quickly

Let the Blaine Gabbert era begin.

by nji232 on Dec 31, 2008 12:45 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I'm pretty sure you killed a guy out there...

…better lay low for a while.

Whoever said you can't mix business with pleasure never owned a PuttPutt course---Andy Bernard

by carmen_fanzone on Dec 31, 2008 1:04 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Not a single major league player coming back

Okay, just so I understand it... in your wildest fantasy, you are in hell. And you are co-running a bed and breakfast with the devil.

by bren on Dec 31, 2008 12:43 PM CST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

It's either...

1) a move to set up another move;
2) a move to clear salary; or
3) both

I hope it’s #3, because I think replacing Wood, DeRosa, and Marquis with Gregg, Bradley and Miles would be a step backwards. But getting someone like Peavy would change the story…

by SouthernCub on Dec 31, 2008 12:45 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

A step backwards would be an understatement

Okay, just so I understand it... in your wildest fantasy, you are in hell. And you are co-running a bed and breakfast with the devil.

by bren on Dec 31, 2008 12:48 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

rec'd

well put

Okay, just so I understand it... in your wildest fantasy, you are in hell. And you are co-running a bed and breakfast with the devil.

by bren on Dec 31, 2008 12:54 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

+1

"That’s the great thing about baseball, you never know what’s going to happen till you get the final out." — Lou Piniella

by drewishdrewid on Dec 31, 2008 12:55 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

really?

I’ve never thought that was a question at all. Clearly, DeRosa is THAT MUCH BETTER than Fontenot. DeRosa is an everyday player who can back you up in almost any position. Fontenot is a platoon second-baseman.

"That’s the great thing about baseball, you never know what’s going to happen till you get the final out." — Lou Piniella

by drewishdrewid on Dec 31, 2008 12:56 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   1 recs

Neither Do I...

…moving Marquis cleared enough for Bradley…

My 2008 Christmas wish list includes this jersey. In Hendry We Trust!

by initram on Dec 31, 2008 1:00 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I don't agree

who’s going to back up Lee, Ramirez and (hah) Theriot?

"That’s the great thing about baseball, you never know what’s going to happen till you get the final out." — Lou Piniella

by drewishdrewid on Dec 31, 2008 1:00 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I just

threw up all over my keyboard.

"That’s the great thing about baseball, you never know what’s going to happen till you get the final out." — Lou Piniella

by drewishdrewid on Dec 31, 2008 1:01 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   1 recs

Good Luck Cleaning That...

My 2008 Christmas wish list includes this jersey. In Hendry We Trust!

by initram on Dec 31, 2008 1:02 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Havent we learned our lesson...

picking up the Cardinals scraps

Okay, just so I understand it... in your wildest fantasy, you are in hell. And you are co-running a bed and breakfast with the devil.

by bren on Dec 31, 2008 1:03 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

rec'd

So if/when Bradley goes down, or any of the other players DeRosa backs up (Soriano, Ramirez, Lee) we’ll replace their bat and defense with Hoffpauir?

The strike me as the sort of move that you make when you’re expecting to compete in 2011. Not the one you make when you expect to be a World Series contender in 2009.

"...the internet is not something you just dump something on. It's not a truck. It's a series of tubes." - Sen. Ted Stevens

by bobby h on Dec 31, 2008 1:10 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

DeRosa

played lots of roles in Atlanta.

"That’s the great thing about baseball, you never know what’s going to happen till you get the final out." — Lou Piniella

by drewishdrewid on Dec 31, 2008 1:01 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I don't think

it’s a valid comparison. DeRosa was blocked, and made himself a utility man. Fontenot cannot play third, he cannot play first, he cannot play in the outfield, and Lou used him very well to make sure he wasn’t exposed in 2008.

"That’s the great thing about baseball, you never know what’s going to happen till you get the final out." — Lou Piniella

by drewishdrewid on Dec 31, 2008 1:02 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Look at the stats and that includes split stats

Mike Fontenot 305 395 514 909 better

Mark Derosa 285 376 481 857 good

plus Mike is play’s better defense

by louwants on Dec 31, 2008 1:28 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I'd like to see those stats

Fontenot was protected by Lou. He was put in situations where he could succeed. DeRosa, on the other hand, played nearly every day, and sometimes, didn’t know where till right before the game.

Fonty is better at 2b than DeRosa? I don’t believe it.

"That’s the great thing about baseball, you never know what’s going to happen till you get the final out." — Lou Piniella

by drewishdrewid on Dec 31, 2008 1:29 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

That and DeRosa can also play

almost anywhere else on the field if the need arises or when Lou has his double switch parties.

"...the internet is not something you just dump something on. It's not a truck. It's a series of tubes." - Sen. Ted Stevens

by bobby h on Dec 31, 2008 1:38 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

You're not taking sample size into account.

How many ABs did Fontenot have? Now how many did DeRo have?

And I don’t see LBR as being better defensively than DeRo either. I view Mark as having better range and a better arm.

Yes, yes ... winter is indeed a pond upon which all of us must skate, braving frostbite and runny noses in the hopes that our cars will start and we shan't embarass ourselves slipping on a patch of black ice. Spring is more a quagmire of cold mud and slush, and fall is a pile of fallen leaves that may or may not hide a pile of doggy doo-doo. But summer, ah summer is an oasis of endless green that disappears all too quickly beneath our feet as we rush through its warm, glorious bliss.

by dat cubfan daver on Dec 31, 2008 1:35 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Yes...

In that he can play 3rd, 2nd, 1st, and OF w/ respectable defense. Fontenot can’t do that, and he’s never been an everyday player in the majors. We shall see…

Someday we'll go all the way...

by CubsBullsBears on Dec 31, 2008 12:56 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

as an Indians fan, this makes me very happy

so you can imagine what this makes me feel as a Cubs fan. I just hope Jimbo is smarter than the rest of us.

Lou Brown: "My kinda team, Charlie, my kinda team..."

by ballhawk on Dec 31, 2008 12:45 PM CST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

you cant be a fan of two teams, come on, man up and choose one!

Okay, just so I understand it... in your wildest fantasy, you are in hell. And you are co-running a bed and breakfast with the devil.

by bren on Dec 31, 2008 12:45 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Wellllll...

it does mean he has a truly legitimate reason to root against the team 9 miles south a good 20-25 times a year.

Sweet Lou for Mayor in '11.

by blackhawk24 on Dec 31, 2008 12:48 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

as long as Bud doesn't decide to merge leagues (don't put it past him)...

…I’m ok. At least until some theoretical October rolls around.

or a very real June this year.

Lou Brown: "My kinda team, Charlie, my kinda team..."

by ballhawk on Dec 31, 2008 12:57 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Well, we'll have to wait and see what magic Hendry has

I don’t see how these three arms help us make a Peavy deal, and I don’t see these three arms helping us much this year. Stevens is nice and could perhaps help in middle relief, but we have a lot of righty arms for pen roles, along with the just added Vizcaino. Gaub adds to our lefty depth, mainly lefty pen depth, in the lower levels, which is nice, but eh. Archer is a decent power arm.

Maybe these assets develop, but a win now asset like DeRosa that likely would’ve netted 2 picks and offered versatility? Maybe San Diego has an interest in them, but I wonder if our budget situation is simply so tight right now that we needed to cut so much to simply add Bradley, who may hit 10 mil AAV, if not more? Maybe Stevens is meant for the pen so that Samardzija can go to the rotation (which I don’t want, but that could be a plausible reason for this deal, along with cutting costs).

Ugh … this was so exciting an hour ago … right now, not so exciting.

by toonsterwu on Dec 31, 2008 12:47 PM CST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

So now I hear that the Cubs are saying they only traded DeRo to free up space for Bradley

If that turns out to be the case, I don’t approve of this trade.

Let the Blaine Gabbert era begin.

by nji232 on Dec 31, 2008 12:48 PM CST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Bruce Miles

Let the Blaine Gabbert era begin.

by nji232 on Dec 31, 2008 12:50 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

The Cubs will have to trade DeRosa to free up money for Bradley, whose deal may get done next week.



http://blogs.dailyherald.com/node/1168

Let the Blaine Gabbert era begin.

by nji232 on Dec 31, 2008 12:54 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

ok, now I have an answer for the question above

I’d rather have DeRosa if we’re not getting Peavy.

"That’s the great thing about baseball, you never know what’s going to happen till you get the final out." — Lou Piniella

by drewishdrewid on Dec 31, 2008 12:55 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

the list of names

is TERRIBLE without Peavy in it.

"That’s the great thing about baseball, you never know what’s going to happen till you get the final out." — Lou Piniella

by drewishdrewid on Dec 31, 2008 12:57 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Great

Okay, just so I understand it... in your wildest fantasy, you are in hell. And you are co-running a bed and breakfast with the devil.

by bren on Dec 31, 2008 12:55 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Not good news.

Yes, yes ... winter is indeed a pond upon which all of us must skate, braving frostbite and runny noses in the hopes that our cars will start and we shan't embarass ourselves slipping on a patch of black ice. Spring is more a quagmire of cold mud and slush, and fall is a pile of fallen leaves that may or may not hide a pile of doggy doo-doo. But summer, ah summer is an oasis of endless green that disappears all too quickly beneath our feet as we rush through its warm, glorious bliss.

by dat cubfan daver on Dec 31, 2008 12:55 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I'm not convinced.

Three young arms is the shopping list for Peavy, not the Cubs.

by N Oakley on Dec 31, 2008 12:57 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

If 3.5 million is what they need

to add Bradley, then other guys could have been moved or not kept. Why keep Reed Johnson? Why get Gaithright when Pie’s cheaper? Why keep Gaudin? Why not try to deal Vizcaino?

SORIANO! YESSSSSSSS! JIMBO!!!

by CubFaninCA on Dec 31, 2008 1:02 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   1 recs

Yup

Okay, just so I understand it... in your wildest fantasy, you are in hell. And you are co-running a bed and breakfast with the devil.

by bren on Dec 31, 2008 1:03 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

they wanted ready arms

maybe towers has changed his mind, but on paper, the fit doesn’t seem to be there.

by toonsterwu on Dec 31, 2008 1:07 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Sounds like Stevens is ready

If Pie’s dealt for Olsen, that’s another ready arm, and the Cubs can send them Kevin Hart. That’s 3 ready arms and 2 more arms ready in a year or two..

SORIANO! YESSSSSSSS! JIMBO!!!

by CubFaninCA on Dec 31, 2008 1:27 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

It ALSO says that the Peavy deal is not dead...

just not active.

So I think it’s semantics to say that DeRosa trade simply clears space for Bradley. It may ALSO clear space (and add potential trade prospects) for Peavy.

Or, it may not. Hopefully, it does.

by SouthernCub on Dec 31, 2008 1:32 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

what?

they clear 3.5 million by moving DeRo and replacing him with Miles to get Bradley?? I don’t buy that..

SORIANO! YESSSSSSSS! JIMBO!!!

by CubFaninCA on Dec 31, 2008 12:52 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

fyi

clearing dero clears 5.5 million.

by toonsterwu on Dec 31, 2008 12:52 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

but they added miles

for $2 million.

SORIANO! YESSSSSSSS! JIMBO!!!

by CubFaninCA on Dec 31, 2008 12:52 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

i read a few weeks ago

that they have $20 million to play with, if marquis is dealt. guess not..

SORIANO! YESSSSSSSS! JIMBO!!!

by CubFaninCA on Dec 31, 2008 12:56 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Depends...

It may also be that trading Marquis and DeRosa gives us $20 million, which gives Hendry the room to add TWO players. In that case, it would just be semantics on saying DeRosa clears space for Bradley.

by SouthernCub on Dec 31, 2008 1:01 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

DeRosa

essentially makes some room for Peavy, but more importantly he gives SD pitching..

SORIANO! YESSSSSSSS! JIMBO!!!

by CubFaninCA on Dec 31, 2008 1:03 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Thats a big assumption though

After the talks broke off b/c Towers was asking too much and Lou was mad that DeRosa was even in the talks

Okay, just so I understand it... in your wildest fantasy, you are in hell. And you are co-running a bed and breakfast with the devil.

by bren on Dec 31, 2008 1:04 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

If Lous was so mad

why deal DeRo now??

SD wanted 6-7 players. The Cubs now have the players…

SORIANO! YESSSSSSSS! JIMBO!!!

by CubFaninCA on Dec 31, 2008 1:05 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I Doubt They Get...

… the 6-7 players, unless some money comes with it.

Perhaps Vitters is out?

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by initram on Dec 31, 2008 1:06 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Yeah

Vitters could be out.

Cubs can send the 3 Indian prospects, Cedeno, Hart & Pie. Pie can be swapped for Olsen. That’s 6 players..

SORIANO! YESSSSSSSS! JIMBO!!!

by CubFaninCA on Dec 31, 2008 1:08 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Sold!

Announcement by 4pm?

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by initram on Dec 31, 2008 1:09 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

lol

hopefully. Will probably take a few days. May see Pie dealt today tho.

SORIANO! YESSSSSSSS! JIMBO!!!

by CubFaninCA on Dec 31, 2008 1:10 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

That was my point

To assume this trade somehow leads to Peavy, when Lou was upset in the first place that he was mentioned in the Peavy talks

Okay, just so I understand it... in your wildest fantasy, you are in hell. And you are co-running a bed and breakfast with the devil.

by bren on Dec 31, 2008 1:07 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

but if Lou's really upset

about DeRo for Peavy, then how’s he feel about DeRo for 3 guys who won’t help him this year?? There has to be something else in place besides Bradley.

SORIANO! YESSSSSSSS! JIMBO!!!

by CubFaninCA on Dec 31, 2008 1:09 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

If It Fell Through...

… and you were DeRo, wouldn’t you be concerned if Piniella wasn’t upset?

My 2008 Christmas wish list includes this jersey. In Hendry We Trust!

by initram on Dec 31, 2008 1:09 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Hear where?

I hope that is not true. Of course, this sounds like a classic Jimbo move; not taking any moves to the media before they’re done…

Sweet Lou for Mayor in '11.

by blackhawk24 on Dec 31, 2008 12:49 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Lou is ruining this team!

If that is the case, first he gives up on Hill and Pie, wants a lefty so bad he’s moving parts to get Milton “DH/DL” Bradley

Okay, just so I understand it... in your wildest fantasy, you are in hell. And you are co-running a bed and breakfast with the devil.

by bren on Dec 31, 2008 12:52 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

at least you can rely on the to deliver

count it!

Okay, just so I understand it... in your wildest fantasy, you are in hell. And you are co-running a bed and breakfast with the devil.

by bren on Dec 31, 2008 12:54 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

didn't DHL

go out of business?

"That’s the great thing about baseball, you never know what’s going to happen till you get the final out." — Lou Piniella

by drewishdrewid on Dec 31, 2008 12:56 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

How very appropriate then.

As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.

by santoswoodenlegs on Dec 31, 2008 12:58 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

they did?

how fitting

Okay, just so I understand it... in your wildest fantasy, you are in hell. And you are co-running a bed and breakfast with the devil.

by bren on Dec 31, 2008 12:58 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I know

I haven’t seen a commercial or a truck for DHL in a LONG time. Their website’s still up tho, so maybe I’m wrong…

"That’s the great thing about baseball, you never know what’s going to happen till you get the final out." — Lou Piniella

by drewishdrewid on Dec 31, 2008 1:00 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

No I think you got, i vaguely remember hearing something about that

Okay, just so I understand it... in your wildest fantasy, you are in hell. And you are co-running a bed and breakfast with the devil.

by bren on Dec 31, 2008 1:01 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

They're only international know...

…they bowed out of domestic shipping.

"...the internet is not something you just dump something on. It's not a truck. It's a series of tubes." - Sen. Ted Stevens

by bobby h on Dec 31, 2008 1:13 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

*only international NOW

"...the internet is not something you just dump something on. It's not a truck. It's a series of tubes." - Sen. Ted Stevens

by bobby h on Dec 31, 2008 1:14 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

better check his ID.

"That’s the great thing about baseball, you never know what’s going to happen till you get the final out." — Lou Piniella

by drewishdrewid on Dec 31, 2008 1:15 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

LMAO. Good one!

"I'm not much of a chemistry guy, you know. Chemistry to me is a pinch-hit double with the bases loaded"--Jim Frey, Chicago Tribune, 1985.

by zevkalman on Dec 31, 2008 1:16 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Ace Ventura, Pet Detective

“I gotta package here, people!”

Yes, yes ... winter is indeed a pond upon which all of us must skate, braving frostbite and runny noses in the hopes that our cars will start and we shan't embarass ourselves slipping on a patch of black ice. Spring is more a quagmire of cold mud and slush, and fall is a pile of fallen leaves that may or may not hide a pile of doggy doo-doo. But summer, ah summer is an oasis of endless green that disappears all too quickly beneath our feet as we rush through its warm, glorious bliss.

by dat cubfan daver on Dec 31, 2008 1:17 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Intra-US and/or NA only IIRC

Int’l they still deliver

Sweet Lou for Mayor in '11.

by blackhawk24 on Dec 31, 2008 2:47 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Don't forget

The Padres can use Petco to take “serviceable” middle-relievers and turn them into “Can’t miss super-stud closers-in-waiting” — so getting some solid arms might be a good play for them in the long run. They can take these guys with their new higher values after a season in SD, and dump them to the Yankees for legit prospects.

But mostly, it sounds like the Pads have to cut payroll in order to make the divorce proceedings go more smoothly.

"Something Profound"

by jza48 on Dec 31, 2008 12:51 PM CST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Jim Callis from Baseball America is doing an ESPN chat at 2 EST

hopefully he’ll touch upon some of these guys we just got

Okay, just so I understand it... in your wildest fantasy, you are in hell. And you are co-running a bed and breakfast with the devil.

by bren on Dec 31, 2008 12:51 PM CST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I thought the Cubs wanted to WIn in '09?

Letting Wood go? Wanting to sign Bradley? Now, trading DeRo?

What?!?!?

by TheHawkRules on Dec 31, 2008 12:53 PM CST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Yep, me too.

But that suddenly seems a lot less certain than it did about half an hour ago.

Yes, yes ... winter is indeed a pond upon which all of us must skate, braving frostbite and runny noses in the hopes that our cars will start and we shan't embarass ourselves slipping on a patch of black ice. Spring is more a quagmire of cold mud and slush, and fall is a pile of fallen leaves that may or may not hide a pile of doggy doo-doo. But summer, ah summer is an oasis of endless green that disappears all too quickly beneath our feet as we rush through its warm, glorious bliss.

by dat cubfan daver on Dec 31, 2008 12:56 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I choose to believe

Hendry is refusing to discuss Peavy in the press and spinning this move absent Peavy.

by N Oakley on Dec 31, 2008 12:59 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I hope you're right.

These three pitchers don’t exactly seem like what the Padres were/are looking for, but Hendry is a good salesman, so…

Yes, yes ... winter is indeed a pond upon which all of us must skate, braving frostbite and runny noses in the hopes that our cars will start and we shan't embarass ourselves slipping on a patch of black ice. Spring is more a quagmire of cold mud and slush, and fall is a pile of fallen leaves that may or may not hide a pile of doggy doo-doo. But summer, ah summer is an oasis of endless green that disappears all too quickly beneath our feet as we rush through its warm, glorious bliss.

by dat cubfan daver on Dec 31, 2008 1:04 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Yep

and he told Towers to shut his big mouth for once.

SORIANO! YESSSSSSSS! JIMBO!!!

by CubFaninCA on Dec 31, 2008 1:04 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I agree

In JH’s shoes, you cannot mention Peavy or the 2b who shall not be named. If you do mention them and a deal falls through, then you’re the GM who traded away an important piece for a pipedream. Much safer to say it’s about clearing payroll.

by Cubinator on Dec 31, 2008 1:26 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Okay...

That makes sense…I feel better.

Can’t take this waiting, though!

by jdb-44 on Dec 31, 2008 1:31 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Hendry Is Likely...

… talking with McFAIL and Towers as we type…

My 2008 Christmas wish list includes this jersey. In Hendry We Trust!

by initram on Dec 31, 2008 1:32 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

More likely

he’d already talked to them and knew what they wanted. There were multiple suitors for DeRosa. Just because we don’t see the value of the package we got back doesn’t mean there isn’t value there to someone else with something more obviously valuable – Peavy, Roberts, or someone we haven’t even considered.

The author of this post is not a certified scout, doctor, agent, statistician, manager, or journalist, nor was he ever a very good player, though he tried very hard to be like Ryne Sandberg and was about as scrappy as it gets (in T-ball). Any opinion expressed above should in no way be confused with fact, truth, or reality and is hereby qualified in the following ways: 1) The author does not know as much about baseball as Lou Piniella. 2) The author does not know as much about baseball as Jim Hendry. 3) The author does not know as much about baseball as either Dusty or Darren Baker.

by DGU on Dec 31, 2008 1:49 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Yep

one of these arms could be going to Baltimore.

SORIANO! YESSSSSSSS! JIMBO!!!

by CubFaninCA on Dec 31, 2008 3:41 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

+1

You betcha! In a vacuum with what we know now, it seems like a down grade. But folks, there’s 14 weeks until the start of the season.

Sweet Lou for Mayor in '11.

by blackhawk24 on Dec 31, 2008 2:48 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Where does Pie fit into all of this? Where does he go? What does he do?

"I'm not much of a chemistry guy, you know. Chemistry to me is a pinch-hit double with the bases loaded"--Jim Frey, Chicago Tribune, 1985.

by zevkalman on Dec 31, 2008 12:56 PM CST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

He's getting dealt for

Peavy.. I’m not buying that they’re moving DeRo so they can sign Bradley. Bull crap.

SORIANO! YESSSSSSSS! JIMBO!!!

by CubFaninCA on Dec 31, 2008 12:58 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

He goes to San Diego as part of the Peavy deal (theoretically)

and what he does there, I don’t really care.

"I see great things in baseball. It's our game - the American game." - Walt Whitman

by hip2bsquare on Dec 31, 2008 12:59 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I'll take "Zevkalman's Gambit" for $800 Alex...

Trebek: Answer: “Running his ass off all game long tracking down the laser beams the crappy pitching staff is going to give up…and striking out.”

::furious button mashing::

Trebek: SWL.

SWL: What is “Felix Pie’s typical game as a Padre”

Trebek: Correct! Select again!

As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.

by santoswoodenlegs on Dec 31, 2008 1:10 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

LOL

Whoever said you can't mix business with pleasure never owned a PuttPutt course---Andy Bernard

by carmen_fanzone on Dec 31, 2008 1:13 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Suck it, Trebek.

Yes, yes ... winter is indeed a pond upon which all of us must skate, braving frostbite and runny noses in the hopes that our cars will start and we shan't embarass ourselves slipping on a patch of black ice. Spring is more a quagmire of cold mud and slush, and fall is a pile of fallen leaves that may or may not hide a pile of doggy doo-doo. But summer, ah summer is an oasis of endless green that disappears all too quickly beneath our feet as we rush through its warm, glorious bliss.

by dat cubfan daver on Dec 31, 2008 1:20 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I've hated him ever since

he pulled out of a celebrity/’Hawks alumni charity game at the barn about 20 years ago; prick…

Sweet Lou for Mayor in '11.

by blackhawk24 on Dec 31, 2008 2:49 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Pie is going to be traded obviously...

the only questions are “where?” and “for whom?” He’s almost certainly going to a non-contender looking to rebuild with cheap young prospect-types, where I’d guess he’ll get his shot to be an everyday CF. Whether that’s San Diego, Baltimore, or somewhere else, I don’t have any idea.

by SouthernCub on Dec 31, 2008 1:06 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

my theory

is that we’re keeping Marquis now.. and Derosa left to make room for Bradley like Marquis was supposed to

"You must try to generate happiness within yourself. If you aren't happy in one place, chances are you won't be happy anyplace."

by All The Way on Dec 31, 2008 12:59 PM CST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I Doubt It...

… the Marquis deal is agreed to “In Principle”. This likely means they just need to wait until next week to get physicals done.

My 2008 Christmas wish list includes this jersey. In Hendry We Trust!

by initram on Dec 31, 2008 1:02 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

to Colorado

for some balls, a used rake, and a bag of foul-line paint.

"That’s the great thing about baseball, you never know what’s going to happen till you get the final out." — Lou Piniella

by drewishdrewid on Dec 31, 2008 1:03 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

...and, apparently, Luis Vizcaino.

He’s taking the balls, the rake, and the paint to Chicago in the back of his car, and the Cubs get to keep him if they want to.

"I see great things in baseball. It's our game - the American game." - Walt Whitman

by hip2bsquare on Dec 31, 2008 1:04 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Actually, Vizcaino IS the used rake.

He’s been around the league a few times and apparently has quite the devilish streak, the handsome bastard.

Yes, yes ... winter is indeed a pond upon which all of us must skate, braving frostbite and runny noses in the hopes that our cars will start and we shan't embarass ourselves slipping on a patch of black ice. Spring is more a quagmire of cold mud and slush, and fall is a pile of fallen leaves that may or may not hide a pile of doggy doo-doo. But summer, ah summer is an oasis of endless green that disappears all too quickly beneath our feet as we rush through its warm, glorious bliss.

by dat cubfan daver on Dec 31, 2008 1:06 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

To The Rox

with $1M for Luis Vizcaino.

My 2008 Christmas wish list includes this jersey. In Hendry We Trust!

by initram on Dec 31, 2008 1:09 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I read

where Marquis is on vacation and they have to wait for him to get back to take a physical and make the trade a done deal

WTF happened here?

by indytaz on Dec 31, 2008 1:14 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

good point

Marquis hasn’t really been traded yet

Let the Blaine Gabbert era begin.

by nji232 on Dec 31, 2008 1:03 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I disagree...

that makes no sense. Trading Marquis wouldn’t be a big step back. Trading DeRosa is (unless it portends some other big trade).

by SouthernCub on Dec 31, 2008 1:04 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Marquis' move

is so they don’t have a $9.875M set up man when the Cubs get Peavy.

the DeRo facilitates (or at least in part facilitates) a Peavy acquisition.

Sweet Lou for Mayor in '11.

by blackhawk24 on Dec 31, 2008 2:53 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I disagree

If the Cubs trade Marquis, and can’t land Peavey, then trading him was obviously a mistake. Marquis is definitely under appreciated. He doesn’t have the greatest stuff, but he kept the Cubs in a lot of games and ate up a lot of innings.

Andy R.

by WindisBlowingOut! on Jan 5, 2009 10:32 AM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

don't you think that...

Hendry is smart enough not to do this unless there’s a larger plan…what about freeing the money from Marquis and DeRo to sign Bradley AND Derek Lowe…thoughts on that?

Another move HAS to be forthcoming for Hendry to trade the guy who was arguably our MVP last year for 3 random minor league pitchers. Right?

Gotta love the Ragin' Cajun!

by TheRiot4Life on Dec 31, 2008 1:05 PM CST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I don't know if Hendry is that smart

He traded for Juan Pierre if you dont remember

Let the Blaine Gabbert era begin.

by nji232 on Dec 31, 2008 1:06 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

That is in part to 2 bigger things

1. The Cubs were God-awful the previous year (2005) in both CF and the leadoff spot.
2. They were dissed by the Dodgers giving $39M to Furcal for 3 years, topping the avg annual salary of the Cubs $50M/5yr offer.

Sweet Lou for Mayor in '11.

by blackhawk24 on Dec 31, 2008 2:54 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

unless

The larger plan is Bradley..
im scared

"You must try to generate happiness within yourself. If you aren't happy in one place, chances are you won't be happy anyplace."

by All The Way on Dec 31, 2008 1:06 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

The larger plan is Peavy IMHO

It only takes $$$ for Bradley, no trade there. For Peavy it takes not only moving salary but getting youngsters in return that the acquiring team (SD) would really want for the former Cy Young award winner.

Sweet Lou for Mayor in '11.

by blackhawk24 on Dec 31, 2008 2:56 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

HOW MANY STARTERS WILL JIMMY LET GO?

What are they doing! This crap is down right stupid. I hope I wake up in a few weeks and we have Dunn and Peavy on our roster. If we don’t get Peavy and a good left fielder(not Milton Im Hurt All The Time Bradley), am cancelling all my Cubs trips this year

by 2tonewilly69 on Dec 31, 2008 1:06 PM CST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

A possibility

although i’d much rather have Peavy.

SORIANO! YESSSSSSSS! JIMBO!!!

by CubFaninCA on Dec 31, 2008 1:06 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Can I have your tickets?

Yes, yes ... winter is indeed a pond upon which all of us must skate, braving frostbite and runny noses in the hopes that our cars will start and we shan't embarass ourselves slipping on a patch of black ice. Spring is more a quagmire of cold mud and slush, and fall is a pile of fallen leaves that may or may not hide a pile of doggy doo-doo. But summer, ah summer is an oasis of endless green that disappears all too quickly beneath our feet as we rush through its warm, glorious bliss.

by dat cubfan daver on Dec 31, 2008 1:07 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Rec'd

The author of this post is not a certified scout, doctor, agent, statistician, manager, or journalist, nor was he ever a very good player, though he tried very hard to be like Ryne Sandberg and was about as scrappy as it gets (in T-ball). Any opinion expressed above should in no way be confused with fact, truth, or reality and is hereby qualified in the following ways: 1) The author does not know as much about baseball as Lou Piniella. 2) The author does not know as much about baseball as Jim Hendry. 3) The author does not know as much about baseball as either Dusty or Darren Baker.

by DGU on Dec 31, 2008 1:50 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I'll sec that Rec.

No sense blowing a blood vessel over something you can’t control.

Yes, yes ... winter is indeed a pond upon which all of us must skate, braving frostbite and runny noses in the hopes that our cars will start and we shan't embarass ourselves slipping on a patch of black ice. Spring is more a quagmire of cold mud and slush, and fall is a pile of fallen leaves that may or may not hide a pile of doggy doo-doo. But summer, ah summer is an oasis of endless green that disappears all too quickly beneath our feet as we rush through its warm, glorious bliss.

by dat cubfan daver on Dec 31, 2008 1:55 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Not only what one can't control

but what else is yet to be done.

Sweet Lou for Mayor in '11.

by blackhawk24 on Dec 31, 2008 2:57 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I know that this has been a slow off-season

…but why not wait for all of the cards to fall before claiming this is a good trade or a bad trade? Just listen to (us)!

by leothelip on Dec 31, 2008 1:11 PM CST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I Just got my questioned answered by Callis!!!!
Bren, NY: Any idea what the Cubs may or may not be doing with these pitchers they just got from Cleveland for DeRosa?

 Jim Callis: (2:10 PM ET ) The Cubs just flipped DeRosa for Jeff Stevens, John Gaub and Chris Archer. This looks like the prelude to another deal, possibly for Jake Peavy. They’re on the verge of dealing Jason Marquis to the Rockies, clearing his salary, something else they wanted to do before getting Peavy. My guess is some or all of those pitchers go to San Diego with Josh Vitters and others (Kevin Hart?) for Peavy. They’re about to sign (it may be official) Aaron Miles to fill in at second base, too.

just one experts opinion, but hey

Okay, just so I understand it... in your wildest fantasy, you are in hell. And you are co-running a bed and breakfast with the devil.

by bren on Dec 31, 2008 1:11 PM CST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

That would be nice

Although after the last failed talks, I kind of what to see Vitters become a star for us, sort of like a giant middle finger to SD

Okay, just so I understand it... in your wildest fantasy, you are in hell. And you are co-running a bed and breakfast with the devil.

by bren on Dec 31, 2008 1:13 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I don't know what to think now

This is just making my head hurt

Let the Blaine Gabbert era begin.

by nji232 on Dec 31, 2008 1:13 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Its gotta be something, right?

If Lou was upset about losing DeRosa in the original Peavy talks, then Hendry must have something else cooking to placate Piniella

Okay, just so I understand it... in your wildest fantasy, you are in hell. And you are co-running a bed and breakfast with the devil.

by bren on Dec 31, 2008 1:14 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Yeah on one hand I trust the words of Bruce Miles

On the other hand I want to think that Jim Hendry isn’t an idiot.

Something was said to Lou to make him happy thats for sure.

Let the Blaine Gabbert era begin.

by nji232 on Dec 31, 2008 1:17 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Seems

 Lou would be pretty ticked about adding 3 prospects for DeRo. These guys are going elsewhere…

SORIANO! YESSSSSSSS! JIMBO!!!

by CubFaninCA on Dec 31, 2008 1:34 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Towers has his deal

set now…

Am really hoping the Cubs can hang onto Vitters…

SORIANO! YESSSSSSSS! JIMBO!!!

by CubFaninCA on Dec 31, 2008 1:33 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Me Too

Perhaps with the volume of players Vitters is not in it?

4pm today?

My 2008 Christmas wish list includes this jersey. In Hendry We Trust!

by initram on Dec 31, 2008 1:34 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Gotta trade Pie now

Maybe 6 pm.

SORIANO! YESSSSSSSS! JIMBO!!!

by CubFaninCA on Dec 31, 2008 1:34 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

He's Likely In The Peavy Deal

My 2008 Christmas wish list includes this jersey. In Hendry We Trust!

by initram on Dec 31, 2008 1:35 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Indirectly...

Perhaps he’d go to Balt for that one guy we talked about before, then that guy will be flipped along with 2/3 of the guys Hendry got from the Tribe. Who knows, maybe he’ll be able to keep the best of the 3 that just came from Cleveland.

Sweet Lou for Mayor in '11.

by blackhawk24 on Dec 31, 2008 2:59 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I Put This In The Miles Thread...

… but if my math is right, adding Bradley, Peavy, Miles, Vizcaino, Gathright…
… and then subtracting DeRosa, Marquis (with $1M), Pie, Cedeno…

would put our payroll at about $153M.

My 2008 Christmas wish list includes this jersey. In Hendry We Trust!

by initram on Dec 31, 2008 1:12 PM CST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

You've Added...

… Bradley and Peavy?

My 2008 Christmas wish list includes this jersey. In Hendry We Trust!

by initram on Dec 31, 2008 1:21 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

so we looking at:

a lineup of:

soriano lf
fontenot/miles 2b
lee 1b
ramirez 3b
bradley rf
soto c
theriot ss
fukudome cf

and a rotation of:
z
dempster
peavy
harden
lilly?

by cubs2410 on Dec 31, 2008 1:15 PM CST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

the rotation looks really great. the starting lineup seems a bit worse than last year's....

"I'm not much of a chemistry guy, you know. Chemistry to me is a pinch-hit double with the bases loaded"--Jim Frey, Chicago Tribune, 1985.

by zevkalman on Dec 31, 2008 1:18 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

because he also has a burgeoning career

as a strong safety for the Bears.

"That’s the great thing about baseball, you never know what’s going to happen till you get the final out." — Lou Piniella

by drewishdrewid on Dec 31, 2008 1:19 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

while center for the bulls and goalie for the blackhawks

Ted Lilly is a busy guy

Let the Blaine Gabbert era begin.

by nji232 on Dec 31, 2008 1:21 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I won't speak for hoops

but we have our goalies. :^)

Sweet Lou for Mayor in '11.

by blackhawk24 on Dec 31, 2008 2:59 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Ted Lilly doesn't ask questions...

…he answers them. Then we watches the ambulance arrive.

Yes, yes ... winter is indeed a pond upon which all of us must skate, braving frostbite and runny noses in the hopes that our cars will start and we shan't embarass ourselves slipping on a patch of black ice. Spring is more a quagmire of cold mud and slush, and fall is a pile of fallen leaves that may or may not hide a pile of doggy doo-doo. But summer, ah summer is an oasis of endless green that disappears all too quickly beneath our feet as we rush through its warm, glorious bliss.

by dat cubfan daver on Dec 31, 2008 1:19 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

He doesn't like his name called out in vain.

"I'm not much of a chemistry guy, you know. Chemistry to me is a pinch-hit double with the bases loaded"--Jim Frey, Chicago Tribune, 1985.

by zevkalman on Dec 31, 2008 1:20 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

because when Ted Lilly is around

periods magically disappear. This explains why all women in a 100 yard radius of him can instantly become pregnant.

As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.

by santoswoodenlegs on Dec 31, 2008 1:24 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

My rhymes are so potent...

…I made all of the area ladies pregnant.

Yes, yes ... winter is indeed a pond upon which all of us must skate, braving frostbite and runny noses in the hopes that our cars will start and we shan't embarass ourselves slipping on a patch of black ice. Spring is more a quagmire of cold mud and slush, and fall is a pile of fallen leaves that may or may not hide a pile of doggy doo-doo. But summer, ah summer is an oasis of endless green that disappears all too quickly beneath our feet as we rush through its warm, glorious bliss.

by dat cubfan daver on Dec 31, 2008 1:26 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

awww yeah!

Yes, yes ... winter is indeed a pond upon which all of us must skate, braving frostbite and runny noses in the hopes that our cars will start and we shan't embarass ourselves slipping on a patch of black ice. Spring is more a quagmire of cold mud and slush, and fall is a pile of fallen leaves that may or may not hide a pile of doggy doo-doo. But summer, ah summer is an oasis of endless green that disappears all too quickly beneath our feet as we rush through its warm, glorious bliss.

by dat cubfan daver on Dec 31, 2008 1:35 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

That's "offensive and creative

like handicapped porn" – Bo Burnham

"This is an environment of welcoming, and you should just get the hell outta here." --Michael Scott

by Reddevil on Dec 31, 2008 2:11 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

harden probably moves to 5 instead of lilly

that way he can get a game off every so often to preserve his arm

by Cubinator on Dec 31, 2008 1:34 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Well when all the other pitchers are hurt come june

we know Ted will be there throwing no hitters every five days.

Let the Blaine Gabbert era begin.

by nji232 on Dec 31, 2008 1:37 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

sorry ? was meant for end of my post..

as asking if you guys think this is what we will see and your opinions… im worried about our depth… whose backing up 3rd?

by cubs2410 on Dec 31, 2008 1:23 PM CST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

boy

too bad we lost McGeehee!

"That’s the great thing about baseball, you never know what’s going to happen till you get the final out." — Lou Piniella

by drewishdrewid on Dec 31, 2008 1:25 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

And...

… all OF positions

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by initram on Dec 31, 2008 1:29 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

hell

let the man pitch!

"That’s the great thing about baseball, you never know what’s going to happen till you get the final out." — Lou Piniella

by drewishdrewid on Dec 31, 2008 1:30 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

and Catch Slop Games?

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by initram on Dec 31, 2008 1:31 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

let's be honest

he’s really here to replace Lou.

"That’s the great thing about baseball, you never know what’s going to happen till you get the final out." — Lou Piniella

by drewishdrewid on Dec 31, 2008 1:33 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

LOL!

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by initram on Dec 31, 2008 1:34 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Miles

My 2008 Christmas wish list includes this jersey. In Hendry We Trust!

by initram on Dec 31, 2008 1:26 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

HENDRY GO FUCK YOURSELF

YOU DUMBASS BITCH, YOU BETTER GET ADAM DUNN OR YOU SHOULD BE THROWN OUT ON THE STREET.

by cliffyhoops03 on Dec 31, 2008 1:25 PM CST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

FINALLY someone with a rational take on the situation.

Yes, yes ... winter is indeed a pond upon which all of us must skate, braving frostbite and runny noses in the hopes that our cars will start and we shan't embarass ourselves slipping on a patch of black ice. Spring is more a quagmire of cold mud and slush, and fall is a pile of fallen leaves that may or may not hide a pile of doggy doo-doo. But summer, ah summer is an oasis of endless green that disappears all too quickly beneath our feet as we rush through its warm, glorious bliss.

by dat cubfan daver on Dec 31, 2008 1:27 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   1 recs

so how do you really feel?

I love to play baseball. I'm a baseball player. I've always been a baseball player. I'm still a baseball player. That's who I am. - Ryne Sandberg

by Trey2317 on Dec 31, 2008 1:28 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Been drinkin' a little too much before midnight, heh?

"I'm not much of a chemistry guy, you know. Chemistry to me is a pinch-hit double with the bases loaded"--Jim Frey, Chicago Tribune, 1985.

by zevkalman on Dec 31, 2008 1:28 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

He'll be passed out before the ball drops in Times Square.

Yes, yes ... winter is indeed a pond upon which all of us must skate, braving frostbite and runny noses in the hopes that our cars will start and we shan't embarass ourselves slipping on a patch of black ice. Spring is more a quagmire of cold mud and slush, and fall is a pile of fallen leaves that may or may not hide a pile of doggy doo-doo. But summer, ah summer is an oasis of endless green that disappears all too quickly beneath our feet as we rush through its warm, glorious bliss.

by dat cubfan daver on Dec 31, 2008 1:36 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Maybe he's coming to us from Moscow

It’s 12:01 AM there.

Sweet Lou for Mayor in '11.

by blackhawk24 on Dec 31, 2008 3:01 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.

by santoswoodenlegs on Dec 31, 2008 1:37 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

LOL, nice.

Looking more and more unlikely. But nice.

Yes, yes ... winter is indeed a pond upon which all of us must skate, braving frostbite and runny noses in the hopes that our cars will start and we shan't embarass ourselves slipping on a patch of black ice. Spring is more a quagmire of cold mud and slush, and fall is a pile of fallen leaves that may or may not hide a pile of doggy doo-doo. But summer, ah summer is an oasis of endless green that disappears all too quickly beneath our feet as we rush through its warm, glorious bliss.

by dat cubfan daver on Dec 31, 2008 1:38 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

It'll Be...

… Gameboard.

My 2008 Christmas wish list includes this jersey. In Hendry We Trust!

by initram on Dec 31, 2008 1:38 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I think this is...

an alternate user name for DeroMyHero, who is clearly venting after learning of the news.

Free Ronny Cedeno

by Kansas25 on Dec 31, 2008 1:38 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Oh man...you could be right.

Someone better check on her.

Yes, yes ... winter is indeed a pond upon which all of us must skate, braving frostbite and runny noses in the hopes that our cars will start and we shan't embarass ourselves slipping on a patch of black ice. Spring is more a quagmire of cold mud and slush, and fall is a pile of fallen leaves that may or may not hide a pile of doggy doo-doo. But summer, ah summer is an oasis of endless green that disappears all too quickly beneath our feet as we rush through its warm, glorious bliss.

by dat cubfan daver on Dec 31, 2008 1:39 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Question.

Now that DeRosa has been/is being traded. Will DeRoMyHero still appear?

by N Oakley on Dec 31, 2008 1:40 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I get the impression she is, overall, a Cubs fan...

…so I would think so. I hope she does – she really knows her stuff.

Yes, yes ... winter is indeed a pond upon which all of us must skate, braving frostbite and runny noses in the hopes that our cars will start and we shan't embarass ourselves slipping on a patch of black ice. Spring is more a quagmire of cold mud and slush, and fall is a pile of fallen leaves that may or may not hide a pile of doggy doo-doo. But summer, ah summer is an oasis of endless green that disappears all too quickly beneath our feet as we rush through its warm, glorious bliss.

by dat cubfan daver on Dec 31, 2008 1:46 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Remember a few weeks ago

when she would obsessively speculate the imminent trading of DeRosa, without any outside media saying anything similar (i.e. before the WInter Meetings)? Yeah, well, she was right all along. I believe she is a Cubs fan overall – she sent me a DVD copy of the WGN anniversary special … someone interested only in DeRo would not give a rat’s ass about Jack Brickhouse or Milo Frigging Hamilton.

"Who's Bob Brenly? The guy that used to be the manager for Arizona?" ~ Alfonso Guilleard Soriano