Derosa traded to Indians

by Juiceboxjerry on Dec 31, 2008 12:31 PM CST

Buster Olney is reporting that Mark DeRosa has been traded to the Indians for three prospects. By the time this is up there will probably be 7 more posts, but I didn't see one so I threw it on here. All I know is there has to be something else in the works here. A contending team doesn't get rid of one of it's most valuable players for prospects. So I expect something else to happen shortly. And, not just Aaron Miles.

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I'll be curious

What the final result is. Let’s Go Tribe (the Indians sister site to BCB) has a link to a Cleveland prospect site that suggests a very minimal return, with pen arm Jeff Stevens as the centerpiece. That would have me a bit flummoxed, but we’ll have to wait and see.

by toonsterwu on Dec 31, 2008 12:35 PM CST reply actions

Bleh

Jeff Stevens, John Gaub, and Chris Archer for DeRosa?

That makes me sick. I don’t see how those two (Gaub and Archer) improve our shots in any other deal, so either

a) We’re trying to make two FA splashes
b) Our financial situation is tighter than previously speculated and we needed to clear a lot of money to simply land Bradley

by toonsterwu on Dec 31, 2008 12:38 PM CST reply actions

Hmpf. This is not good news.

Maybe Peavy isn’t so likely after all.

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by daver on Dec 31, 2008 12:40 PM CST up reply actions

honestly,

i would’ve preferred keeping DeRosa versus the junk that we just picked up. Okay, these guys aren’t exactly junk, but for a team in a win now mode, they don’t contribute much (stevens, perhaps, but we are loaded with pen depth), and unless San Diego decides to take a long range view on things, I don’t see how this fits San Diego’s needs, per the previous rumors on what they wanted.

by toonsterwu on Dec 31, 2008 12:42 PM CST up reply actions

Yeah, I was assuming...

…the arms the Cubs picked up were tailored to San Diego’s needs, but it doesn’t appear that way. So I’m confused as usual.

by daver on Dec 31, 2008 12:48 PM CST up reply actions

i guess

if the payroll was closer to 140, if not in the upper 130’s, then these moves would be necessary. We were in the 133-137 range, based on my rough calculations, and shaving off close to 9 million nets us that FA OF.

I know the reports suggest that new ownership may let us pursue Peavy next week … but how are we going to get the assets together to make said deal? The beauty of a DeRosa deal was shaving costs and finding assets to send.

That said, maybe the Padres really like Archer and/or Gaub. I could see them taking a liking to stevens out of the pen.

by toonsterwu on Dec 31, 2008 12:58 PM CST up reply actions

Gaub

Struck out 100 in 64 innings. He has some value.

Stevens is close to MLB ready. I don’t think we would do this deal unless we had another deal in place.

by serbianking33 on Dec 31, 2008 1:08 PM CST reply actions

side note on Gaub

he does have a plus curve, iirc, which allows guys in the lower levels to rack up K’s, so I’d take it with a grain of salt.

If I remember the report on him before injury/surgery, he used to have three plus pitches. I don’t remember, though, the velocity coming back to the same range, but I don’t track other systems that closely. If he does get his velo back, then yes, he’s a very nasty arm. If not, he’s your run of the mill lefty with a plus curve.

Archer is a decent arm, but a lot of development … and a lot of bust ability.

by toonsterwu on Dec 31, 2008 1:16 PM CST up reply actions

wrong scouting report on Gaub

it’s actually a slider, at least according to Indians fans, and he has touched the low-90’s again …

by toonsterwu on Dec 31, 2008 2:52 PM CST up reply actions

i'm bummed.

i loved dero!

I used to be "Jones," but I got swooped on the redesign.

by Mr Snrub on Dec 31, 2008 1:13 PM CST reply actions

Couldn’t agree more. This guy was everything, everwhere. He also loved being a Cub and was clearly a great teamate.

by onedaythecubs on Jan 1, 2009 7:09 AM CST up reply actions

It's a business

DeRo was expendable.

His skill set was redundant (slow, power, right handed)
His contract was the most tradable
He is coming off a career year and could be traded for the most value.

I am sorry to see him go, but the Cubs need to free up money and this is the best way to do it.

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by Ross on Dec 31, 2008 1:24 PM CST reply actions

i don't think anyone has a problem with dealing dero

it’s a question of what’s next.

dealing dero was always on the menu this offseason. but … if this is it, what do these three assets do for us? on paper, not much, outside of stevens perhaps stepping in the pen.

if this is a prelude to another move, then we’ll have to wait and see to be able to judge.

by toonsterwu on Dec 31, 2008 1:38 PM CST up reply actions

If they clear salary, then that is good enough

Let’s face it, there apparently wasn’t a huge market for Mark DeRosa. They were able to clear his salary to open the door for other moves. In my book, that is good enough.

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by Ross on Dec 31, 2008 1:41 PM CST up reply actions

huh

the phillies were interested before they added ibanez. The Twins were still interested. By most accounts, a lot of teams wanted DeRosa, unless something’s changed in the last few days.

by toonsterwu on Dec 31, 2008 1:45 PM CST up reply actions

I think we look to Baltimore or Minnesota or FL

But FL not Hermida,

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by Ivy Walls on Dec 31, 2008 2:51 PM CST up reply actions

um what's that in reference to?

I was responding to Ross that a lot of teams were seemingly interested in DeRosa. Not sure how to respond to your comment without knowing what yours is directed at.

by toonsterwu on Dec 31, 2008 2:53 PM CST up reply actions

Damn it

Can’t the Cubs make one stupid trade this off season that makes me happy to be a Cubs fan?

Sigh… first Woody… now DeRo…

Blech.

by Hilary Lee on Dec 31, 2008 1:37 PM CST reply actions

You thing being a Cubs fan is going to make you Happy?

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.

by santoswoodenlegs on Dec 31, 2008 1:39 PM CST up reply actions

Sigh.

They seem to be systematically dealing off popular players, to be replaced by angry ones.

If the angry ones win a World Series, I’ll be happy.

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by Al Yellon on Dec 31, 2008 1:41 PM CST up reply actions

I'm already seeing visions

Of Milton Bradley making a run at Santo for mispronouncing his name or something…

by Hilary Lee on Dec 31, 2008 1:44 PM CST up reply actions

Marquis was popular?

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by JohnM on Dec 31, 2008 1:49 PM CST up reply actions

Marquis

hasn’t been traded yet. Just talk.

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by drewishdrewid on Dec 31, 2008 2:20 PM CST up reply actions

Until he gets back from Disneyworld

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by JohnM on Dec 31, 2008 3:15 PM CST up reply actions

All I ask

Is for some off-season happiness. I can deal with the ups and downs of the regular season, but I’d at least like to go into it slightly optimistic, rather than terminally pissed off at the front office…

by Hilary Lee on Dec 31, 2008 1:44 PM CST up reply actions