The Cub Can Of Worms: Neifi Perez
This one ought to give you enough to talk about as we wait for the Winter Meetings to get underway next week.
Neifi Perez was signed by the Cubs on August 19, 2004, two days after he was released by the San Francisco Giants; despite playing for the team that then-Cubs manager Dusty Baker had managed for a decade, Neifi had never played for Dusty before.

This one sums up Neifi well. Trying to tag Joe Crede in 2006,
it looks like he got him, but we'll never know for sure.
photo via i.cdn.turner.com
He played ten games at Iowa (hitting .206), and when recalled in September, he played a number of games at SS after the also just-acquired Nomar Garciaparra had suffered a minor injury. In 23 games, comprising 63 at-bats in 2004, Neifi hit .371/.400/.548 with two homers and five doubles. (It was pointed out yesterday in one of the threads that this is a good small-sample-size comparison for what Micah Hoffpauir hit in his first 73 major league AB: .342/.400/.534). Neifi had never come close to numbers like that with the Rockies, Royals and Giants, but Cubs fans could have been forgiven if they thought they had at least a decent backup infielder.
Neifi was thrust into a starting role in 2005 when Nomar got hurt again, this time a horrible groin injury that made almost every male Cubs fan cringe, on April 20, 2005. He played well enough for two months (on June 5 he was hitting .325/.348/.485) that some blogs (this one and The Cub Reporter) were pushing a write-in campaign for Neifi for the All-Star team. (We were kidding. Sort of.) We weren't the only ones -- check out this MLB.com article by Carrie Muskat in which both Nomar and Derrek Lee were pushing for Neifi to be an All-Star:
"He deserves it," Lee said. "Look at his numbers. I don't think there's a shortstop with better offensive numbers."
"There should be a Cubs shortstop there, and it's the guy who's playing there right now," Garciaparra said of Perez. "He's been unbelievable. He definitely deserves it."
That, of course, was Neifi's cue to stop hitting. From June 6 to the All-Star break he hit .167/.191/.190 (no, that's not a misprint, that's a .190 SLG), and wound up the year hitting .274/.298/.383, just about exactly his career averages. Nevertheless, Dusty kept trotting him out there, mystifyingly batting him leadoff or second on many occasions, and responding to criticism with quotes like this:
"I hear a lot of people say, 'Put Cedeno in.' What am I supposed to do? Push Neifi out now? This guy has saved us."
Saved the Cubs from what, exactly, is the question Dusty never answered; they finished fourth at 79-83. But Dusty's "horse" was right back in there in 2006, starting many games at 2B or SS and producing things like the mystifying bunt he laid down with two out and two on and the Cubs down by two runs in the bottom of the ninth against the Nationals on May 18, 2006. It turned into an easy comebacker and the Cubs lost.
Jim Hendry was the one who finally "saved" the Cubs by shipping Neifi to the Tigers. Neifi should thank him, because he wound up playing in the World Series, while the Cubs lost 96 games. The next year, he was suspended twice for PED use, the second time for 80 games; that ended his major league career.
But as checkered as Neifi's Cub and post-Cub career was, we should always hold a little place in our hearts for him, because on September 27, 1998, while a member of the Rockies, he hit a walkoff homer in Coors Field against the Giants, forcing the wild-card tie and the September 28, 1998 tiebreaker game, which the Cubs won.
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one thing that I'm not sure you touched on, Al
was that the Cubs were actually in pretty good shape until June 2005, thanks to D-Lee’s big year and Neifi. Wasn’t there a 7-game losing streak in June or July that pretty much did in that team? The employee also had a pretty good first couple of months before Brad Hawpe’s line drive, IIRC.
These comments are in no way meant to validate Neifi, or worse — Dusty’s use of Neifi, especially in table-setter spots in the lineup. It’s pretty bad when twice in one week, these threads have profiled players (Neifi and Hawkins) whom Hendry essentially had to trade so Dusty would stop using them in the wrong spots.
In a way, I feel bad for Neifi. He could have been a perfectly adequate backup infielder — in the same way that Cedeno was used in 2008. But Dusty had other ideas, relegating Neifi to Can of Worms status.
by elgato on
Dec 5, 2008 9:38 AM CST
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Exactly.
Neifi was well-suited to backup duty; he was a pretty good defensive player (at least until 2006, when he got out of shape). But to start him every day was suicidal.
"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx
by Al on
Dec 5, 2008 9:40 AM CST
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Didn't the Cubs ...
give him a two-year deal before the 2006 season?
by elgato on
Dec 5, 2008 9:52 AM CST
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Yes.
Jim Hendry got the Tigers to take the entire contract when he traded Neifi there.
"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx
by Al on
Dec 5, 2008 9:59 AM CST
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that might be better ...
than Ramirez and Lofton for Hill, Hernandez and Bruback!
by elgato on
Dec 5, 2008 10:01 AM CST
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Another stroke of genius
by our much-beleaguered GM.
One day I hope to come up with something worthy of this space.
by chilango2 on
Dec 5, 2008 10:01 AM CST
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Maybe
Either he gave out the contract himself, or let Baker bully him into it. He doesn’t get credit for salvaging his own mess.
by dr stabbingworth on
Dec 5, 2008 10:06 AM CST
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Why not?
A lot of GM’s would have just eaten the contract. He got someone to take it.
"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx
by Al on
Dec 5, 2008 10:14 AM CST
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it is sort of a
otherwise-Mrs.-Lincoln-how-was-play thing. He never should have signed Neifi (post-2005) for two years.
by elgato on
Dec 5, 2008 10:28 AM CST
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I blame Dusty for the Neifi hatred
Perez wasn’t a bad back-up infielder and his occasional bursts of productivity show that. However, he never should have played as much as he did and his name should have automatically been penciled into the 8th spot when he played not the top of the lineup.
by rlpete on
Dec 5, 2008 9:40 AM CST
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Oh, wow
Check out the lineup for Neifi’s bunt game in 2006. Walker hitting third, Barrett hitting cleanup. Neifi actually started at third that day. I guess Aramis was hurt?
Also of note — Murton was 3 for 5 with no RBIs and no runs scored. Very typical.
by elgato on
Dec 5, 2008 9:43 AM CST
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That [redacted]
I will despise him for the rest of my life.
One day I hope to come up with something worthy of this space.
by chilango2 on
Dec 5, 2008 9:43 AM CST
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I will always love Niefi
For his time in Colorado. Specifically 9/27/98. I recall running out of a bar and down to Wrigley to buy tickets for the one game playoff. Even though I already had tickets. It seemed like the thing to do.
by gocubsgo22 on
Dec 5, 2008 9:43 AM CST
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That sight...
… was one of the most bizarre things I have ever seen. I was in a bar, too, on Clark St. that day. Coming out and seeing literally hundreds of people running down Clark to get in line for tickets was a scene that may never be repeated.
"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx
by Al on
Dec 5, 2008 9:50 AM CST
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I was there also
I lived on Waveland at the time. It got pretty crazy, you would have thought they just won the WS.
by salparadise23 on
Dec 5, 2008 5:27 PM CST
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Neifi's homer
was the only homerun by a left-handed better Robb Nen gave up all season. Just thinking about the emotions of that day – first the Cubs lose in 11, then ESPN puts on Neifi versus Nen – warms me up when it’s 19 degrees here in Indianapolis.
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by Trey2317 on
Dec 5, 2008 10:23 AM CST
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Was Neifi Using PED's Back in 1998?
We’ll never know, but I am sure glad he hit that HR, juiced or not.
"The big possum walks late." - Harry Caray
by memphiscub on
Dec 5, 2008 10:39 AM CST
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I thought Neifi was nailed for greenies, not steroids.
But the wind blew me back via Chicago, In the middle of the night
by N Oakley on
Dec 5, 2008 10:40 AM CST
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yes
IIRC – it was greenies
Cubs Win!! Cubs Win!
by Ihatethecards on
Dec 5, 2008 11:02 AM CST
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The Old-Fashioned PED's
Well, I’m glad Neifi was awake enough to hit that HR back in 1998, whether he was on greenies or not.
"The big possum walks late." - Harry Caray
by memphiscub on
Dec 5, 2008 11:04 AM CST
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He's still better than Jose Macias
Okay, just so I understand it... in your wildest fantasy, you are in hell. And you are co-running a bed and breakfast with the devil.
by bren on
Dec 5, 2008 9:43 AM CST
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sure ...
but Neifi played a LOT more. Macias was the 25th man on the roster. Neifi (especially after Nomar got hurt) was a much bigger piece of the team.
by elgato on
Dec 5, 2008 9:48 AM CST
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Sometimes I honestly forget Nomar played for the Cubs
Okay, just so I understand it... in your wildest fantasy, you are in hell. And you are co-running a bed and breakfast with the devil.
by bren on
Dec 5, 2008 10:31 AM CST
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With only 395 at bats and 41 RBI's over 1 and 1/2 seasons,
you are forgiven. He was a great player for the Red Sox.
But the wind blew me back via Chicago, In the middle of the night
by N Oakley on
Dec 5, 2008 10:37 AM CST
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My favorite Cub to hate!
I dunno if it will get any worse than Neifi-as-a-starter.
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by dtpollitt on
Dec 5, 2008 9:55 AM CST
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"Neifi-as-a-starter"
That may be the greatest oxymoron of all time.
by Tangled Up In Blue on
Dec 5, 2008 10:10 AM CST
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Neifi
Elgato pointed this out, but Neifi and Hawkins are the two prime examples of how bad a manager Dusty was. These two players, if used correctly, could have made fine editions to those Cubs teams. As it stands, they are two of the Cubs Can of Worms All-Stars.
I don’t think it is possible for me to dislike a Cubs player as much as I dislike Neifi. Everytime his name was in the lineup, I cringed.
by Tangled Up In Blue on
Dec 5, 2008 10:09 AM CST
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Again, don't dislike Neifi.
It wasn’t his fault that he got put into a role he wasn’t suited for.
Blame Dusty for that.
"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx
by Al on
Dec 5, 2008 10:15 AM CST
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True
I admit I projected my dislike of the way Dusty used him onto Neifi. It was more of what Neifi represented than anything else. The fact that the Cubs, or any team for that matter, would have a hard time contending with Neifi as a starting SS. I realize Nomar was injured, but there had to be better options.
by Tangled Up In Blue on
Dec 5, 2008 10:19 AM CST
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haha I remember always joking about "Neifi saved us!"
But I hate looking back on the lineup Dusty sent out everyday:
Patterson CF
Neifi SS
Lee 1b
and so forth
It always meant Lee came up with no one on base. I just kept thinking then, what do we have to do to tell Dusty this doesn’t work??
"Charles Tillman is one of the best strippers in the NFL" - John Madden 11/30/08 Chicago Bears vs. Minnesota Vikings game
by Chanman25 on
Dec 5, 2008 10:18 AM CST
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that is pretty horrible, isn't it?
At the same time, there weren’t a lot of options. Dusty could have done something interesting like hit Barrett second. But who else would have been at the top of the order? Jeromy Burnitz? Hollandsworth?
I’m not letting Dusty off the hook. I actually think the 2005 team was doomed because Hendry had to do so much reshuffling after the collapse in 2004 (Farnsworth, Sammy, Alou, Mercker) that the roster was kind of a mess.
But no one can be blamed more for the collapse than Dusty.
by elgato on
Dec 5, 2008 10:24 AM CST
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Poor D. Lee
In case anyone ever wonders how Derrek Lee ended up with only 107 RBI for his 46 HR season in 2005, look at the two guys hitting in front of him. This probably cost the Cubs enough wins to keep Lee from winning the MVP award.
by Jody Jody Davis on
Dec 5, 2008 10:58 AM CST
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That is...
… the second-fewest RBI for anyone who hit 45 or more HR in a season.
Troy Glaus hit 47 HR and had 102 RBI in 2000.
"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx
by Al on
Dec 5, 2008 11:37 AM CST
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oh come on now
he won us the first series in ‘old busch stadium’ in 13 years with a grandslam in extra innings back in 2005. i was at the game, ok thats enough praise, that pic that al put up does sum it up.
by Ratola on
Dec 5, 2008 10:28 AM CST
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that is exactly right. .
didn’t that homerun get caught in the netting of the right field foul poul? That was a big deal at the time, because of how horrid the cubs had been for a long time at old busch. .
Baseball is like church--many attend, few understand. - Leo Durocher
by cubswinnow on
Dec 5, 2008 10:54 AM CST
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I remember joking that grandslam would secure his job for next year...
I was right..
"Charles Tillman is one of the best strippers in the NFL" - John Madden 11/30/08 Chicago Bears vs. Minnesota Vikings game
by Chanman25 on
Dec 5, 2008 11:19 AM CST
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I mean for the rest of the year
"Charles Tillman is one of the best strippers in the NFL" - John Madden 11/30/08 Chicago Bears vs. Minnesota Vikings game
by Chanman25 on
Dec 5, 2008 11:21 AM CST
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Maybe.
Stay tuned.
"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx
by Al on
Dec 5, 2008 11:37 AM CST
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That was rhetorical Al.
No doubt there has to be one ! in fact it should be the longest one! lots of pictures, flash animations..the whole thing. Comon Al, don’t slack on us now.
by xene on
Dec 5, 2008 11:59 AM CST
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This is both hilarious and informative...
…Hilarious in reminding me how Neifi came in to being with the Cubs and his teammates’ promotion of him for the All-Star game. Looking at his 2004 numbers and his career numbers then it was was pretty clear he was a guy who was an anti-base clogger. He’s actually a decent back-up so long as you don’t carry too many pitchers (forget that, Dusty) and you can thus add another backup infielder who can get on base a little.
But the teammates’ comments and Dusty’s support, and Hendrys contract just illustrate how repeatedly stupid Hendry has been in paying for past performance and this is even worse because the greater body of historical work y Neifi screamed that he sucked. No, this was more of Hendry giving Dusty too much latitude with the roster, although it was arguably not a risk because Neifi would never be cast as a starter by his Manager?
I am so thankful hta Hendry was not GM, and Dusty not the manager when Tuffy Rhodes had that career day off Gooden. He’d still be on the roster tday after the 20+ year contract they would have given him after that game.
Now the PED fiasco—he wasn’t a big name but if Neifi was using then a reasonable assumption is that 99% of all players were using. A guy who’s offensive prowess was the bunt was using PED—that’s hilarious
Neifi was an okay backup, especially for fielding, but he had to be managed properly—OOps, baker knows all-start talent when he sees it but apparently the disastrous slump is to be ignored with equal vigor.
by DudeVf11 on
Dec 5, 2008 11:30 AM CST
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Neifi's PED use was amphetamines, not steroids.
"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx
by Al on
Dec 5, 2008 11:38 AM CST
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My ignorance on that one--thanks for the correction.
Neifi seemed like a decent guy and he played hard, it’s aggravating that the Manager put him in a position where he would likely fail and the GM was too “hands off” to bring it to an end sooner.
As I stated above in the prior post, he was a decent back-up for defensive purposes but the Cubs unwisely leaned on him too much as a starter, and their roster make-up did not afford them the luxury of a backup with such woeful offensive production.
by DudeVf11 on
Dec 5, 2008 2:04 PM CST
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Ahh, Neifi.
One of the worst players in the history of baseball, yet Dusty kept running him out there day after day.
It was a joyous day when he was finally traded.
by kanderber on
Dec 5, 2008 11:48 AM CST
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Again...
… he wasn’t one of the worst in the history of baseball.
He could have been a good utility player. But Dusty insisted on trying to make a full-time starter and leadoff man out of him, something he wasn’t suited for. No wonder he failed.
Blame Dusty, not Neifi.
"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx
by Al on
Dec 5, 2008 11:51 AM CST
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Neifi defense time
Neifi had 5000 career AB’s. He had a lifetime .267 BA but with a terrible OBP. He wasn’t a bad fielder.
Saying he was one of the worst players in history is a bit over the top.
by rlpete on
Dec 5, 2008 11:52 AM CST
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Find me a worse player who got that much playing time.
I guess I could’ve been more clear on my post.
One of the worst players in the history with that many at bats. No doubt about it.
by kanderber on
Dec 5, 2008 2:52 PM CST
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That may very well be true.
"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx
by Al on
Dec 5, 2008 4:47 PM CST
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Neifi was on track in 2006 to becoming baseball's worst.
Back in 2006, it was reported that Neifi was on track to have the worst career RCAA (Runs Created Above Average) in baseball history, making him, at least in hitting, one of the worse players in history. Not sure if he ended his career in that spot.
by gp1966 on
Dec 6, 2008 11:30 AM CST
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For one full season, yes...
… if he had gotten that much playing time.
"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx
by Al on
Dec 6, 2008 6:01 PM CST
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i was a fan if neifi, if i remember correctly, he ahd a walk off grandslam or home run in his last year as a cub…someone correct me if im wrong or can remember the exact situation
by mattpsu on
Dec 5, 2008 1:21 PM CST
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Here's the game you're probably thinking of
July 24, 2005 in St. Louis. Neifi hit a grand slam in the top of the 10th to win the game for the Cubs.
"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx
by Al on
Dec 5, 2008 1:56 PM CST
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I'm going to get lambasted, but..
I actually didn’t mind Neifi. Sure, he was no superstar, but he was put in a horrible position (thanks again, Dusty!) of trying to replace an all-star who we brought in hoping to be the savior. Yes, his bottom of the 9th bunt attempt was a top 10 bonehead of the decade moment, but he also came up with some clutch hits with all of Cubs Nation watching him. Anybody remember the game winning 2 run bases loaded single in the bottom of the 8th against the previous can-of-worms nominee LaTroy Hawkins as a Giant? How about the grand slam in the top of the 10th at St. Louis? He was a guy who wasn’t blessed with a ton of natural ability but made the most of his obvious shortcomins, albeit with the help of some banned substances. I’m still waiting for the Dusty can of worms, he deserves it more than Neifi!
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by ambrosiadreams on
Dec 5, 2008 6:29 PM CST
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Dusty Question....concerning Neifi and others
Though I don’t hate Dusty, I do wonder if he had problems with games like these while he was an infant.
http://www.amazon.com/Melissa-Doug-Shape-Sorting-Cube/dp/B00005RF5G/ref=pd_bbs_sr_2?ie=UTF8&s=toys-and-games&qid=1228585077&sr=8-2
I state this because this seems to be the type of manager he is concerning certain players like Neifi Perez.
by TheHawkRules on
Dec 6, 2008 11:40 AM CST
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God I loved that May 18th game
We were all excited because if I remember right the Cubs had a chance to tie it up. That was my second game ever in the bleachers and our entire group stood up to brace ourselves for the excitement…even if it was Neifi. I will always remember standing there for 15 minutes after the game trying to figure out what just happened. Did he bunt? Why would we bunt? I think that summed up that season quite well. Yikes.
"You just don't know understand how frustrating this is"- Kevin Borseth
by TkGoUWGB on
Dec 7, 2008 9:53 AM CST
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My Neifi Cub Memories
Best – the grand slam Neifi launched against the Cardinals in 2006 that got wedged between Busch Stadium crossbracing on ESPN that crushed the Redturds and gave me one of the few rays of pleasure in an otherwise classically horrid Cubs season ..
Worst – the failed attempt by our hero to cut off an Atlanta runner off at the plate with a throw that probably ended up beaning the bouncer at the Cubby Bear’s northern gate, a bizarre effort that prompted Len Kasper’s infamous “Play the game” snarl .. the same year
As a purely personal side note:
One of my fondest Wrigley visit memories was two years ago when Mrs Cubnational and I slipped in to the lounge just to use the rest room before going to the game. I will never forget walking in and barely hearing my wife’s aggrieved cries behind me over the smell of the crowd and the roar of the greasepaint .. “rafael! … rafael !!”
I whirled thinking some goon was molesting her and thought I was going to have to defend her virture when I found she’d been stopped by the lounge guy checking ID’s. I was carrying her driver’s license since she wanted to go to the game purse and wallet less. Need I say that my mature wife is an exceedingly beautiful and young looking thing? My wife was pushing 40 at that time and after we produced the needed proof and she walked in, we had a heck of a laugh. That guy actually made her day .. and the Cubs foul ball right into my mitt from home plate off of Jason Kendall did too, even though we lost to the Mets that day.
And, uh, Neifi wasn’t in the picture ..
Well, Next Year is here .. and Jack's century's gotta end some time .. GO CUBBIES!
by cubnational on
Dec 7, 2008 10:08 AM CST
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