Peavy Package involving DeRosa?

….it’s all smoke and mirrors at this point, and not even good smoke.

That said, I too would hate to see DeRo anywhere else….he had the one big hit of the playoffs, and seems like a great influence in the clubhouse. Of course, you have to look at the whole package, and shouldn’t ever say never….but he’d be way down my list of tradebait.

maybe dealing DeRo and Marquis reopens a Furcal push to go with a cheaper RF option? Hermida? Teahen? Or (hopefully) all the rumors about a roster in the $140s is true and we go big with Abreu & Furcal…a man can dream right?

for a couple months though….plus they are losing Burrell….DeRo can play LF….it does make sense….

DeRosa another fan favorite to many, DeRosa is a very good interchangeable player but he is not a HOF caliber, or even All Star level which is why he has made himself into a player of many positions and got to the MLB level, found a way to stick as a part time starter and now a starter at 34 years old.

He had a career year last year and by golly he might have another one this year. But in reality Fontenot matched him almost hit for hit last year and for awhile in June 2007 If DeRosa were a step better going to either side he would have made it as an almost All Star SS and probably would have become indispensable to some team.

However if he is the part of the puzzle that brings a Cy Young winning pitcher who is still young along with a handful of other prospects and interchangeable parts than this is what trading is all about. A starting rotation is the gold standard in baseball, have you ever played the game? Pitching wins and at the MLB level winning series gets you in the playoffs. If the Cubs are gifted to field a rotation like Peavy, Z, Dempster, Lilly and Harden they can win every series. The weak spot is Z and Harden’s health.

The tea leaves all along have shown that the Cubs are interested in moving DeRosa and his $6M salary when snippets of Aurillia or Durham surfaced, why would they need another 2B?

I can see the 3-team trade that includes

Philly gets DeRosa (for LF) and sends Chicago a pair of pitching prospects
Chicago sends Pie and Fontenot and a player TBN and possibly Philly prospect for Roberts and Olson.
Chicago then sends Olson a Philly prospect plus Cedeno, Vitters, and player TBN to SD for Peavy

Cubs get Peavy (Cy Young winner and All Star caliber) plus Roberts all star caliber 2B and lead off hitter for what? A pair of good 2B, a CF project, a serviceable SS who plays dumb, a MLB 3B or LF prospect and a couple of other 40 man roster players.

For what? Some cash.

Now Marquis will be traded and with that even if it is discounted, it adds up to $16M plus the arbitration of Cedeno…this is a net 18M off the books while adding approximately the same amount this year for Peavy and Roberts.

Package that

DeRosa, Pie and spare parts for Peavy and I could probably live with that though I’d rather it be Vitters, Pie and spare parts.

I guess my thinking is it’s okay to trade away our top prospect (Vitters) or our top ML player that’s trade-able (DeRosa) for Peavy, but not both.

I could see Hart, Wuertz or even a similar prospect from Philly as that would appear to be a 2 player acquisition. As I projected above I think Hendry is trying to sweeten the pot and trying for Roberts as well, not sure there are bullets in the holster but McPhail is probably saying going cheap ball will pay dividends as the economy goes south and the Yanks, BoSox and Toronto are on the high side.

DeRosa, Vitters, Pie, plus others in a situation where you’re competing against yourself? Am I the only one who thinks it’s a touch pricey?

I’m a big DeRo fan myself, but to say that he was more productive than everyone not named Aramis isn’t true.

In addition to Ramirez, there were several other players more productive — Soto, Soriano, Edmonds, and Fontenot.

He wants to do something, clearly, but is dependent on someone else to do it. Jim Hendry isn’t going to be pressured into doing anything.

we won’t need all those other players to score runs and close out games and all that other non-starter stuff. We could win 0-0 games by forcing the other teams to forfit due to our overwhelming pitching.

Pat: “Well, Ron, I’ve never seen this before. Torre is pulling his guys back into the locker room, and the umpire is talking to Lou… and that’s it! Cubs win!”
Ron: “Wow, Pat, I, uh, I’ve never in all my years seen anything like that. Now here’s a letter from, uh, Chad and Trixie in Hoffman Estates….”

He specifically mentions DeRosa to Phillies.

Now, yeah, it’s certainly true that nothing is certain; unless we’ve seen the trade proposal that Towers offered Hendry or they actually do the trade we’ll never know for sure who’s in the deal.

But I see no reason to believe this isn’t something that has been seriously discussed; it’s shown up in the Chicago, San Diego, and Philly papers. Just because the Padres have asked for DeRosa doesn’t mean they’re getting him, of course. But I think they’ve asked.

i thunk that was a joke

Bruce Miles says that the Cubs have payroll parameters set and that new owners don’t need to approve specific payroll. I trust his Cubs sources more than Robothal’s.

Peavy wants to be a Cub, Padres don’t want to pay Peavy. Time to put up the offer Hendry is comfortable with and let it stew.

but i think it’s off the front page of fanposts, now.

But you had to do that, since it won’t let you put the name of a current player in there.

Which raises the question, what if your name was Peavy? Could you not buy a jersey with your name on it?

… one then must wonder what happens if that player is chosen in the Rule 5 draft?!?

Knowns:
1. Seems so.
2. Go Cubs Go.
3. Of course.
4. Not so. From Stark:

But one thing that isn’t certain, despite reports to the contrary, is that the Peavy trade will involve a third team, or even a fourth. The two sides “don’t necessarily need a third party to make this deal,” the source said.

5. Who wouldn’t?
6. Not exactly. The Cubs can’t afford Peavy if that makes Jason Marquis a 10 M backup to Rich Harden. The Cubs can afford Peavy if they add no one else, which is not totally unrealistic – they have Pie and Dome (who actually hit left-handed last I checked).

I’m also still doubting the idea that Jim Hendry gave Kevin Towers the ability to shop Mark DeRosa. DeRosa’s name had been left out of all trade negotiations until the Phils were mentioned. Lou even came out and suggested Fontenot might play some SS.

I still think it’s a good idea, if you’re going to trade DeRosa, to force the team getting DeRosa to take Marquis. The Phillies could do that.