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Among the many things Blago just got charged with, this one was kinda interesting:

"Blagojevich and Harris conspired to demand the firing of Chicago Tribune editorial board members responsible for editorials critical of Blagojevich in exchange for state help with the sale of Wrigley Field, the Chicago Cubs baseball stadium owned by Tribune Co."

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While this is Cub-newsworthy...

… I think refraining from any political comments here would be the right thing to do.

If this post degenerates into that sort of discussion, it will be deleted.

"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al on Dec 9, 2008 9:34 AM CST reply actions   0 recs

Agreed.

"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al on Dec 9, 2008 3:54 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Agreed!

As a commie liberal pinko, let me say that I think Blago is an embarrassment to humanity!

I’d take any Republican currently serving in the state of Illinois over him.

The worst beer I had was pretty good.

by Worf on Dec 9, 2008 3:54 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

I dunno about THAT

however, I hope they nail Blago to the wall.

"That’s the great thing about baseball, you never know what’s going to happen till you get the final out." — Lou Piniella

by drewishdrewid on Dec 9, 2008 3:57 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Maybe we need to go out of state for a new senator.

(Oh, I guess we already tried that and it was a disaster, cough, Alen Keyes.)

It will sure be interesting to see how many other Illinois politicians are involved in this mess.

Hey, it's a new century!

by cowsarecool220 on Dec 9, 2008 3:57 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Oh, I think Alan Keyes worked out pretty well

It was nice for Obama to get a little cannon fodder so he didn’t have to worry too much about winning :)

Give it to Jesse White. He’s harmless. And then let them have an octagon-style fight over it in 2010.

The worst beer I had was pretty good.

by Worf on Dec 9, 2008 4:02 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

At this point...

… let’s stop the party partisan talk and keep this to baseball-related topics. Thanks.

"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al on Dec 9, 2008 4:23 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Ah, GRod.

I wonder whether they’ll let him watch Cubs games in the slammer.

Yes, yes ... winter is indeed a pond upon which all of us must skate, braving frostbite and runny noses in the hopes that our cars will start and we shan't embarass ourselves slipping on a patch of black ice. Spring is more a quagmire of cold mud and slush, and fall is a pile of fallen leaves that may or may not hide a pile of doggy doo-doo. But summer, ah summer is an oasis of endless green that disappears all too quickly beneath our feet as we rush through its warm, glorious bliss.

by dat cubfan daver on Dec 9, 2008 9:49 AM CST reply actions   0 recs

I understand that for Cub fans in prison in Illinois

they have an internal cable channel that only shows the six play-off games from the last two years in a constant loop. That is all that a Cub fan gets to watch in prison. That is why it is called prison. Truly appropriate punishment for the Governor it seems to me.

"When you are in a hole, stop digging." - anon.

by LAcarl519 on Dec 10, 2008 8:21 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

More appropriate would be

Looping most of the 1980’s and 1990’s.

Facts are meaningless. You could use facts to prove anything that's even remotely true! --Homer J. Simpson

by Shanghai Badger on Dec 10, 2008 12:40 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

As bad as some of the teams were in the 80's and 90's......

I think those play off games, would be FAR worse to have to watch again.

by Madison Cub Fan on Dec 11, 2008 12:43 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

They should prop his eyes open...

…like the main character in “A Clockwork Orange” and make him watch Game 6 of the ’03 NLCS over and over for the duration of his sentence. Corruption, solved.

Yes, yes ... winter is indeed a pond upon which all of us must skate, braving frostbite and runny noses in the hopes that our cars will start and we shan't embarass ourselves slipping on a patch of black ice. Spring is more a quagmire of cold mud and slush, and fall is a pile of fallen leaves that may or may not hide a pile of doggy doo-doo. But summer, ah summer is an oasis of endless green that disappears all too quickly beneath our feet as we rush through its warm, glorious bliss.

by dat cubfan daver on Dec 12, 2008 9:37 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

I love this!

Creative punishment!

"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al on Dec 12, 2008 12:45 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Blago

I read through the 15 or so pages of the complaint, which can be found in pages 41-55. Basically Blago and his chief of staff were in regular contact with folks at Trib Co, attempting to have Tribune Editor John McCormick fired. Blago was unhappy about the coverage of the Tribune which called for his impeachment and was not very complimentary towards the governor. The complaint details Blago’s use of the Illinois Sports Authority and his potential influence to have the Authority purchase the Cubs. Blago was using his influence regarding the sale of Wrigley field in an attempt to having editorial board members fired.

There is some mention that there was contact with both “Tribune Owner” (one would assume this means Sam Zell) and “Cubs Chairman” (one would assume that this is Crane Kenney). It does not seem that there really was wrong doing on the part of Zell or Kenney, but here is the segment of text referring to Kenney:

After hearing that Tribune Financial Advisor had assured HARRIS that the
Tribune would be downsizing or making personnel changes affecting the editorial board,
ROD BLAGOJEVICH had a series of conversations with representatives of the Chicago
Cubs regarding efforts to provide state financing for Wrigley Field. On November 30, 2008,
ROD BLAGOJEVICH spoke with Sports Consultant, the president of a Chicago-area sports
consulting firm, whose remarks during the conversation indicated that he was working with
the Cubs on matters involving Wrigley Field. In that conversation, ROD BLAGOJEVICH
and Sports Consultant discussed the importance of getting the IFA transaction approved at
the IFA’s December 2008 or January 2009 meeting, because ROD BLAGOJEVICH was contemplating leaving office in early January 2009 and ROD BLAGOJEVICH’s IFA
appointees would still be in place to approve the IFA deal. On December 3, 2008, ROD
BLAGOJEVICH spoke again with Sports Consultant and explained that ROD
BLAGOJEVICH had control over state funds designated for use in connection with science
and technology, and which could be used to pay for improvements at Wrigley Field. Later
that same day, ROD BLAGOJEVICH spoke with Cubs Chairman and said that he could
make state science and technology funds available to the Cubs without having to go through
the legislature, and suggested that the Cubs come up with proposals that would allow the use
of such funds.

This is certainly all Cubs newsworthy. Without commenting politically I will say that Blago sure didn’t show himself to be much of a Cubs fan here.

by dmlichte on Dec 9, 2008 9:49 AM CST reply actions   0 recs

correction

The Authority was not going to purchase the Cubs, just Wrigley Field.

by dmlichte on Dec 9, 2008 9:50 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Thanks for posting this.

It is indeed Cubs newsworthy — goes a long way toward explaining why the proposal to sell Wrigley to the state suddenly vanished last summer.

"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al on Dec 9, 2008 9:57 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Yup...

… if you have a few minutes, read through these pages. Most ammusing might be the parts where Blago’s wife threw in her two cents.

During the call, ROD BLAGOJEVICH’s wife can be heard in the background telling ROD BLAGOJEVICH to tell Deputy Governor A "to hold up that fucking Cubs shit. . . fuck them."

 and

Later, ROD BLAGOJEVICH’s wife got on the phone and, during the continuing discussion of the critical Tribune editorials, stated that Tribune Owner can "just fire" the writers because Tribune Owner owns the Tribune. ROD BLAGOJEVICH’s wife stated that if Tribune Owner’s papers were hurting his business, Tribune Owner would do something about the editorial board.

I feel bad for their children who likely are going to not only have the stigma of this guy as their father but are going to be visiting him for several years in a federal prison.

by dmlichte on Dec 9, 2008 10:06 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Based on that part of the indictment...

… they probably should have indicted her, too.

"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al on Dec 9, 2008 10:25 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

If they indicted every wife with a foul mouth and an opinion...

…ah, I won’t go there. But for some reason, I get the fleeting image of Carla Tortelli from Cheers.

by Flatley on Dec 9, 2008 10:28 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Yes, dear. You're right. I'm sorry.

Yes, yes ... winter is indeed a pond upon which all of us must skate, braving frostbite and runny noses in the hopes that our cars will start and we shan't embarass ourselves slipping on a patch of black ice. Spring is more a quagmire of cold mud and slush, and fall is a pile of fallen leaves that may or may not hide a pile of doggy doo-doo. But summer, ah summer is an oasis of endless green that disappears all too quickly beneath our feet as we rush through its warm, glorious bliss.

by dat cubfan daver on Dec 9, 2008 10:49 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

LOL!

"Hats for bats.....keep bats warm." - Pedro Cerrano
"Hey bartender, Jobu needs a refill !!!!!!!" - Eddie Harris

by willie mays hayes' gloves on Dec 9, 2008 11:30 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Heh

My next sig line quote will also be from Lou Piniella, and the first word will be either "Look", or "Listen", followed by a comma.

by JohnM on Dec 9, 2008 1:23 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Well...

… a lawyer would be better to comment but while Blago’s wife put in her two cents, I think her lack of being an elected public official means that she’s just a bystander here. Certainly one with an opinion, but since she had no legal role in state decisions I wonder whether or not she legally did anything wrong.

On the other hand, if she is indictable, its likely that this will be held over Blago’s head. Fox Chicago is doing a great job covering this today and one of their commentators said that perhaps they’ll try to get Blago to plea guilty in an attempt to save his wife from being dragged into this.

by dmlichte on Dec 9, 2008 10:39 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

That's nothing, Al

Just wait until we learn who “Senate Candidate 5” is, among others. At least a couple of candidates were willing to pay/play illegally for the Senate seat. This won’t be the last public figure in this mess to get nailed………

"Bite my shiny metal ass!" -- Bender Bending Rodriguez

"Life is just one crushing defeat after another until you just wish Flanders was dead."

by The Jade Scorpion on Dec 9, 2008 5:56 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

supposedly...

… its Jesse Jackson Jr but I don’t buy it. I cannot imagine he’s dumb enough to get tied up in Blago’s web and pay to play. IMO it’s JB Pritzker who is rumored to want to get into politics and being a Pritzker has more than enough cash to satisfy Blago’s needs.

by dmlichte on Dec 9, 2008 6:29 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

IMO...

… Pritzker is #6.

"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al on Dec 9, 2008 8:00 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

#5

The only reason I felt like Pritzker was #5 or at least JJ Jr isn’t #5 is the amount of immediate money that #5 apparently was going to pony up immediately… I believe $500K and then $1M in further contributions. JJ Jr, I don’t believe, would have access to that kind of immediate cash. JJ Jr, I believe, has to know that Blago is toxic and anyone who was having those kinds of talks with Blago is almost as dumb as Blago.

It seems to me that the idea of a long term replacement for Obama has long since set sail. Blago knew that he had to instead put in a placeholder, someone who would not be in the field of Shakowsky, JJ Jr, Gutierrez and Duckworth, all of whom would fight it out in 2010 for the seat. The placeholder concept allows Blago to go outside the box and appoint someone not conventional (think Delaware, where Ted Kaufmann was appointed for two years). Someone no one was thinking of. Blago, of course, would be left to really auction off the seat to high dollar donors, corporate types.

The one thing contrary is that JJ Jr was mentioned at the end of last week and on Monday, but who knows.

by dmlichte on Dec 9, 2008 8:28 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Several Sources now say...

…Senate Candidate #5 is, indeed, Jesse Jackson, Jr.

Ruht-Roh!

http://abcnews.go.com/Blotter/ConductUnbecoming/Story?id=6431739&page=1

"Bite my shiny metal ass!" -- Bender Bending Rodriguez

"Life is just one crushing defeat after another until you just wish Flanders was dead."

by The Jade Scorpion on Dec 10, 2008 10:50 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Cubs fans

Aren’t saints. We can be just as corrupt, greedy, fat, and horny as anyone.

Blago is a scumbag. He’d be a scumbag no matter who he rooted for. He’d be a scumbag if he had played in 1984 and hit a pennant-clinching homer.

The worst beer I had was pretty good.

by Worf on Dec 9, 2008 3:58 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

This is just incredible!

I can’t believe how blatant this is! And he KNEW he was already under multiple corruption investigations!

G-Rod is officially booted out of Cub fandem!

Hey, it's a new century!

by cowsarecool220 on Dec 9, 2008 12:15 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

If you follow Illinois politics long enough...

You learn not to be surprised by much of anything. It’s like they’ve never got out of the 19th century…

by CubsWin!Oregon on Dec 9, 2008 1:21 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

I didn't grow up in Chicago so I'm still shocked.

I’ve live here for almost 7 years and never realized how corrupt the entire state was before the move. I knew that Chicago was corrupt but had no idea the entire state political system was rotten.

Hey, it's a new century!

by cowsarecool220 on Dec 9, 2008 3:52 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Welcome To My Nightmare

Welcome to my nightmare
I think you’re gonna like it
I think you’re gonna feel… you belong
A nocturnal vacation
Unnecessary sedation
You want to feel at home ’cause you belong

Well, Next Year is here .. and Jack's century's gotta end some time .. GO CUBBIES!

by cubnational on Dec 9, 2008 7:47 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Hah well he's officially screwed

the whole situation seems really bizarre. Hah and who would have thought the Cubs were involved…..in a governor’s scandal?!?!

"Charles Tillman is one of the best strippers in the NFL" - John Madden 11/30/08 Chicago Bears vs. Minnesota Vikings game

by Chanman25 on Dec 9, 2008 12:47 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

Aw, man...

You guys in Illinois always have the cool stuff happening. Here in Iowa it’s like, “That tractor was looking at me funny.” Next time, don’t arrest him, just ship him over here. We need somthing to do.

Also good to hear that the Wrigley ‘favor’ was in the early stages. Hope everybody in the Cubs organization comes out smelling like roses. Or maybe pine tar and rosin.

"Well, we're out of cake! We only had three bits and we didn't expect such a rush! So what do you want?"
"What, so my choice is 'or death?' Well, then I'll have the chicken, please."
--Eddie Izzard

by znohitter on Dec 9, 2008 12:50 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

I think...

… that the shenanigans here regarding Wrigley Field might have held up a possible sale last summer or fall. So this clearly has Cub implications.

"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al on Dec 9, 2008 4:25 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Well there is the

little issue of Mari Culver smoking in a state vehicle (state trooper’s car). ;-)

by sue369 on Dec 9, 2008 5:15 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

I'm front-paging this FanShot...

… because it seems important to discuss today.

And also to stop the duplicate posts.

"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al on Dec 9, 2008 3:43 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

And for this particular incident ONLY...

… I’m suspending the no-politics rule. It’s the biggest political scandal, possibly, since Watergate.

"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al on Dec 9, 2008 4:26 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

thanks :-)

"Truth does not do as much good in the world as the semblance of truth does evil," - Duc de La Rochefoucauld, Maxims, 64.

by Emelie on Dec 9, 2008 4:27 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah but no but yeah...

To quote a favorite character from British TV.
Whitewater was pretty scandalous on a national level. But other recent scandals have been of a sexual nature, so “yeah, but no but yeah.”

One day I hope to come up with something worthy of this space.

by chilango2 on Dec 9, 2008 4:38 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

To Quote Richard Nixon in 1977 with David Frost

“Well, when the president does it that means that it is not illegal.”

Did Blago think that applied to governors?

"The big possum walks late." - Harry Caray

by memphiscub on Dec 9, 2008 4:48 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Blago may be the most red-handed indicted Illinois governor

since Otto Kerner

I love to play baseball. I'm a baseball player. I've always been a baseball player. I'm still a baseball player. That's who I am. - Ryne Sandberg

by Trey2317 on Dec 9, 2008 4:54 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Why'd you gotta hate on Kerner like that?

Wasn’t for him, I’d have to drive another five minutes to hit the tracks!

by Flatley on Dec 9, 2008 4:58 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

I enjoy Arlington Park as much as the next guy

when I’m visiting relatives, but Kerner’s the last one to get caught red-handed like Blago appears to have been.

I love to play baseball. I'm a baseball player. I've always been a baseball player. I'm still a baseball player. That's who I am. - Ryne Sandberg

by Trey2317 on Dec 9, 2008 5:07 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

haha

I know. I’m jus’ playin’. Pretty awful, though.

by Flatley on Dec 9, 2008 5:33 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

My absolute favorite part

is Blagojevich thinking that if he made himself senator, it would help him run for Prez in 2016.

The worst beer I had was pretty good.

by Worf on Dec 9, 2008 3:50 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

Like I said in another thread...

… Rod should have his Cub fan credentials revoked.

"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al on Dec 9, 2008 4:23 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

You stay classy, San Diego!

Yeah. She’s a real catch….

I feel bad for their kids all in all.

by CubsWin!Oregon on Dec 9, 2008 4:24 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Yes, the children will suffer because of the corruption of their parents.

I was glad to read that the FBI took pains to not haul G-Rod out of the house in front of his children.

At least they were spared that trauma.

Hey, it's a new century!

by cowsarecool220 on Dec 9, 2008 4:29 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

G-Rod.

He doesn’t deserve a nickname.

"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al on Dec 9, 2008 4:34 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Blago in 2016?

I think I just threw up a little bit in my mouth.

"That’s the great thing about baseball, you never know what’s going to happen till you get the final out." — Lou Piniella

by drewishdrewid on Dec 9, 2008 3:59 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

vote sure.

RUN?

"That’s the great thing about baseball, you never know what’s going to happen till you get the final out." — Lou Piniella

by drewishdrewid on Dec 9, 2008 4:41 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

My Alderman somehow

worked it so that he could run despite a felony. Of course, he won.

"Truth does not do as much good in the world as the semblance of truth does evil," - Duc de La Rochefoucauld, Maxims, 64.

by Emelie on Dec 9, 2008 4:43 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Sure.

A Blago-Ryan ticket would be hilarious.

I love to play baseball. I'm a baseball player. I've always been a baseball player. I'm still a baseball player. That's who I am. - Ryne Sandberg

by Trey2317 on Dec 9, 2008 4:45 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Blago-Ryan 2012

Because Two Wrongs Make a Right.

Oy.

"That’s the great thing about baseball, you never know what’s going to happen till you get the final out." — Lou Piniella

by drewishdrewid on Dec 9, 2008 4:47 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

They can campaign from their shared prison cell!

"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al on Dec 9, 2008 4:47 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Ryan's in Wisconsin

So, they could canvas states.

I love to play baseball. I'm a baseball player. I've always been a baseball player. I'm still a baseball player. That's who I am. - Ryne Sandberg

by Trey2317 on Dec 9, 2008 4:48 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Nothing like...

the mighty Midwest coalition to take the nation by storm!

by CubsWin!Oregon on Dec 9, 2008 4:51 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Oxford, WI

Ryan is at the federal penitentiary in Oxford, WI. My family has a lake home about 5 minuted from the prison.

by dmlichte on Dec 9, 2008 4:52 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

I think they moved him because of his age. He started in WI and

now vacations on the government nickel in scenic Terre Haute, IN.

But the wind blew me back via Chicago, In the middle of the night

by N Oakley on Dec 10, 2008 8:32 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

I've been to Terre Haute.

Nice people there. A buddy and I went to see our college team play the Polytechnics (where the Colts preseason, I hear), only to find that the game started four hours later. Well, we went to a bar, where we got some very solid treatment from the establishment, who weren’t officially open at the time. And we got to watch the Cubs win a game, too.

by Flatley on Dec 10, 2008 10:47 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Town's nice enough place to live, not vacation.

Especially if the “vacation” involves the inside of a federal facility.

by N Oakley on Dec 10, 2008 1:19 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Maui

Facts are meaningless. You could use facts to prove anything that's even remotely true! --Homer J. Simpson

by Shanghai Badger on Dec 10, 2008 2:19 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Paridise Island

"Hats for bats.....keep bats warm." - Pedro Cerrano
"Hey bartender, Jobu needs a refill !!!!!!!" - Eddie Harris

by willie mays hayes' gloves on Dec 10, 2008 3:24 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

There's only one thing worse than a corrupt politician -

a stupid corrupt politician.

"Hats for bats.....keep bats warm." - Pedro Cerrano
"Hey bartender, Jobu needs a refill !!!!!!!" - Eddie Harris

by willie mays hayes' gloves on Dec 9, 2008 3:58 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

Stunning is the right word. It hard to believe

that a person in his position could be so dumb. After all the controversy surrounding his administration, to pull this stunt has got to be the ultimate in hutspah. I’m ashamed to be a resident of Illinois. Political corruption seems to be our main resource and I am sick of it. This sense of entitlement and look the other way needs to end. The patronage system and the state legislature needs to be completely overhauled. The citizens of this state need to get control of government now. We are becoming a laughingstock and I have had enough.

"Hats for bats.....keep bats warm." - Pedro Cerrano
"Hey bartender, Jobu needs a refill !!!!!!!" - Eddie Harris

by willie mays hayes' gloves on Dec 9, 2008 4:09 PM CST up reply actions   1 recs

That's a valid question...

… it sure can’t help any.

"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al on Dec 9, 2008 4:24 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

This definitely ruins all of the positive world-wide publicity

Chicago has gotten in the last month since Obama’s election.

Hey, it's a new century!

by cowsarecool220 on Dec 9, 2008 4:32 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Just look

here. It’s the lead story in Sydney, Australia – and it definitely hurts the positive publicity.

I love to play baseball. I'm a baseball player. I've always been a baseball player. I'm still a baseball player. That's who I am. - Ryne Sandberg

by Trey2317 on Dec 9, 2008 4:48 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

This is major news all over the world

But I somehow doubt it will directly affect the Olympic bid. The recession is Chicago’s worst enemy right now.

One day I hope to come up with something worthy of this space.

by chilango2 on Dec 9, 2008 4:53 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

I think the President

and his world-wide popularity right now will help with the bid more so than this scandal.

I love to play baseball. I'm a baseball player. I've always been a baseball player. I'm still a baseball player. That's who I am. - Ryne Sandberg

by Trey2317 on Dec 9, 2008 4:55 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

I think that is the only way Chicago could win it's bid.

And I thought that BEFORE this scandal!

Hey, it's a new century!

by cowsarecool220 on Dec 9, 2008 4:57 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Good point. I agree with both of you. Obama has good karma

in the world. Olympics here we come!

"I'm not much of a chemistry guy, you know. Chemistry to me is a pinch-hit double with the bases loaded"--Jim Frey, Chicago Tribune, 1985.

by zevkalman on Dec 9, 2008 4:58 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

I think the Olympic Committee has had it share

of kickback problems over the years. This whole mess with the Gov may make the Olympic Committee more comfortable with Chicago, not less. For years, this is how things have been done on the Olympic Committee. :-(

The Olympic folks won’t admit it, but this has been their way of life. Why do you think they take so long to make a decision every time? Who is kidding who? Call me cynical.

"When you are in a hole, stop digging." - anon.

by LAcarl519 on Dec 10, 2008 8:30 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

President-Elect :)

Sorry. It’s a pet peeve of mine. I know what you mean, but for us poli-sci nerds the distinction is important…

But anyhoo…

by CubsWin!Oregon on Dec 9, 2008 5:03 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Duly noted.

I meant to put that, but hit post too quickly.

I love to play baseball. I'm a baseball player. I've always been a baseball player. I'm still a baseball player. That's who I am. - Ryne Sandberg

by Trey2317 on Dec 9, 2008 5:07 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Sorry.

I’m just being nit-picky… :)

by CubsWin!Oregon on Dec 9, 2008 5:27 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Um

Is it just me, or does nobody else think heat could come down on the president-elect as a result of this?

His name is in tons of the report, talking about potential payoffs to get his choice appointed to the vacant seat.

Granted it’s his advisors talking directly, but it’s only one step removed and I could see some serious flak coming his way for this.

I have doubts that he’s 100% clean in this himself.

by WittyUserName on Dec 11, 2008 12:10 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

I think we'll hear LOTS more names before this is over...

Jesse Jackson Jr. is already in the spotlight. Where this goes.. .who knows…

by digitalbenjamin on Dec 11, 2008 9:20 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Rec'd

I read the complaint myself. Stunning doesn’t begin to describe it.

"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al on Dec 9, 2008 4:24 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

word on the street...

dumber than Dubya. This proves it beyond doubt.

"Truth does not do as much good in the world as the semblance of truth does evil," - Duc de La Rochefoucauld, Maxims, 64.

by Emelie on Dec 9, 2008 4:26 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

RodGate 2008

Brian McRae's 5 o'clock shadow

by PurpleLineToWrigley on Dec 9, 2008 4:15 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

Dumber than a box of rocks

I read the complaint and accompanying affidavit over my lunch hour. Your Governor Blagojevich takes the Ted Stevens Prize for Dumbest Conduct by an Elected Official. His buddies are going down all around him and he still attempts to extort money from his office telephone. Even the Daley Machine at its worst – and its worst was pretty dreadful – was smarter than that.

But what infuriates me is that good projects – Children’s Memorial Hospital, for example – were sacrificed or jeopardized by this stooge’s greed. Sam Zell can handle himself; the IFA subsidizing bailing Zell out of Wrigley Field was a fairly dubious idea in the first place. I hate that the Cubs’ get dragged into the mess, though.

Alaska is still suffering through this kind of mess (8 convictions, two trials still pending, more indictments possible). It’s a horrible distraction from all of the very serious issues facing our country. So my sympathies to folks in Illinois. Shades of Big Jim Thompson. Good luck.

AlaskaFan

"Year after year after year after year . . . . . after year after year after year . . ." - Steve Goodman, "Dying Cub Fan's Last Request"

by AlaskaFan on Dec 9, 2008 4:35 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

It's possible that all of the ISFA stuff...

… delayed the sale of the Cubs, which could have possibly happened before the season ended.

"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al on Dec 9, 2008 4:48 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

also unfortnate...

I was reading Blago’s Wikipedia profile and he certainly came from humble beginnings.

From Wikipedia:

Blagojevich was born and raised in Chicago’s northwest side, the second of two children. His father, Radisa Blagojevich, was an immigrant steel plant laborer from Serbia.9 Blagojevich spent much of his childhood working odd jobs to help the family pay its bills. He was a shoeshiner and pizza delivery boy before working at a meat packing plant.9 In order to afford college, Blagojevich worked for the Trans-Alaskan Pipeline System as a dishwasher.9

Everyone is different and many people who struggle to work their way up do a ton of good but perhaps Blago, once he started receiving riches, nothing could satisfy him. Indeed, it does seem now that even the good that he did was veiled in is deceit. Blago did often fight for those in need but unfortunately even the best of his deeds now need to be questioned and examined. Who knows what lies below the surface.

This has to be a very conflicting day for Alderman Richard Mell, father of Patty Blagojevich. He worked to get Blago elected and not long after they had a falling out. One now has to assume that Mell was privy to what a scumbag his son-in-law had become. Today Mell was quoted as saying that he was just concerned about his daughter and grandchildren.

by dmlichte on Dec 9, 2008 4:50 PM CST up reply actions   1 recs

Dick Mell ain't no saint dude...

What bewilders me is how Blago became so corrupt after having to overcome relative poverty and knowing what hard work is.

One day I hope to come up with something worthy of this space.

by chilango2 on Dec 9, 2008 4:56 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Mell

I know he’s no saint… I figured that by mentioning that he was an alderman it was assumed that he was corrupt. It just says a lot when your corrupt father-in-law is dismayed by your even higher level of corruption.

by dmlichte on Dec 9, 2008 5:17 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Got it.

My bad. You’re right—how sad for our fair city and state.

One day I hope to come up with something worthy of this space.

by chilango2 on Dec 9, 2008 5:18 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Last February Chicago Magazine

ran a profile of Blago that quoted a pol as saying the moment Blago got elected he changed, kind of like a flipped switch. Apparently the story he told himself is not the story of reality. Other pols called him a sociopath. Who knows?

What is irrefutable though is his approval rating: 4%. Lowest of any politician in the country.

"Truth does not do as much good in the world as the semblance of truth does evil," - Duc de La Rochefoucauld, Maxims, 64.

by Emelie on Dec 9, 2008 4:57 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Re: 4 percent

That is amazing! Yet WBEZ interviewed people today who said he should be given a pass and that they don’t believe the charges.

One day I hope to come up with something worthy of this space.

by chilango2 on Dec 9, 2008 4:59 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

some people will say anything to get on the radio ;-}

"Truth does not do as much good in the world as the semblance of truth does evil," - Duc de La Rochefoucauld, Maxims, 64.

by Emelie on Dec 9, 2008 5:00 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Yes, well there are still some people

that don’t believe we sent astronauts to the moon.

Hey, it's a new century!

by cowsarecool220 on Dec 9, 2008 10:10 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Only the Cubs

… could have their governor try to extort them. Well, until a team goes into New Jersey. I suspect this will be going into a prominent place in permanent Cubs lore.

I wonder if we’ll see t-shirts that say “hold up that f***ing Cubs s**t. . . f** them” on the road this year.

by 08Cubs on Dec 9, 2008 4:59 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

Maybe you just stumbled on a million-dollar idea

and I want a cut…

One day I hope to come up with something worthy of this space.

by chilango2 on Dec 9, 2008 5:00 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Well, the thought of that shirt made me laugh.

Maybe you can market it best on the South side, or in St. Louis.

by Flatley on Dec 9, 2008 5:01 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

In New York officials in the mayor's office

tried to extort Mets and Yankees. Brewing scandal here over recently released documents showing Bloomberg’s people wanted
their own box at each park, special parking etc and on that they worked with both teams but especially the Yankees to get Federal backing for bonds by inflating the value of the land. I think this may become a bigger issue and believe or not reports today that due
to the economic crisis BOTH teams want more help from the city. Good luck on that.

"I am not ashamed to say I love Greg Maddux" - Jim Hendry

by Doggie Stalker on Dec 9, 2008 5:42 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

What cracks me up

Is the shock and indignation coming from other Chicago politicians.

Come on, how naive are they? You can’t tell me they weren’t aware of a lot of this.

Now topping my Christmas list is Blago trying to cut a deal by implicating Dickie Daley.

Facts are meaningless. You could use facts to prove anything that's even remotely true! --Homer J. Simpson

by Shanghai Badger on Dec 9, 2008 6:01 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

As much as I agree with you

in my distaste for Hizzoner, I actually think he’s smarter than not covering his tracks, unlike Blago.

One day I hope to come up with something worthy of this space.

by chilango2 on Dec 9, 2008 6:07 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

I suspect you're right

And if someone does suggest he’s guilty, he’ll just say the same thing 4 or 5 times in his chipmunk voice and everything will be fine.

Facts are meaningless. You could use facts to prove anything that's even remotely true! --Homer J. Simpson

by Shanghai Badger on Dec 9, 2008 6:16 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

He was white as the proverbial sheet on TV today (Daley).

"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al on Dec 9, 2008 8:02 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

He was, wasn't he?

Not his usual defiant, inarticulate self.

Facts are meaningless. You could use facts to prove anything that's even remotely true! --Homer J. Simpson

by Shanghai Badger on Dec 9, 2008 8:06 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

That is because he knows that he is on Fitzgeralds list....

…Stroger is next then Daley.

New sig currently under construction

by JB 23 on Dec 9, 2008 10:40 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Man, I hope so

Facts are meaningless. You could use facts to prove anything that's even remotely true! --Homer J. Simpson

by Shanghai Badger on Dec 9, 2008 10:50 PM CST up reply actions   1 recs

Rec'd

"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al on Dec 10, 2008 3:41 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

With a bulldozer?

Facts are meaningless. You could use facts to prove anything that's even remotely true! --Homer J. Simpson

by Shanghai Badger on Dec 9, 2008 8:10 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

could be a way for them to seem like they had no clue it was going on yet they did

“safe-face” tactic

"Charles Tillman is one of the best strippers in the NFL" - John Madden 11/30/08 Chicago Bears vs. Minnesota Vikings game

by Chanman25 on Dec 9, 2008 7:18 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

That's my guess

Facts are meaningless. You could use facts to prove anything that's even remotely true! --Homer J. Simpson

by Shanghai Badger on Dec 9, 2008 7:24 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

I mean honestly how could you NOT know it was going on

The general public knows that there is much corruption in the Chicago and Illinois governments, however we didn’t know it was THIS bad.

"Charles Tillman is one of the best strippers in the NFL" - John Madden 11/30/08 Chicago Bears vs. Minnesota Vikings game

by Chanman25 on Dec 9, 2008 7:30 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Either they knew, or they are stupid

And to name two, neither Durbin nor Jackson strike me as stupid. Now, that doesn’t mean that I think that they were complicit, but they had to have some inclination, didn’t they?

And I agree — I’ve felt Dickie is more corrupt than his old man for years, but I didn’t realize the state of the state was that bad. Blago is just a moron to continue to try these tactics when he KNEW he was under scrutiny.

What I don’t get is, how do these people keep getting elected? I have friends and family who live in Illilnois, but I’ve never gotten an explanation.

Facts are meaningless. You could use facts to prove anything that's even remotely true! --Homer J. Simpson

by Shanghai Badger on Dec 9, 2008 8:09 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

* How do the corrupt ones keep getting elected

I wasn’t referring to Durbin, Jackson, et al.

Facts are meaningless. You could use facts to prove anything that's even remotely true! --Homer J. Simpson

by Shanghai Badger on Dec 9, 2008 8:09 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

As there are stupid corrupt leaders, there are stupid voters

"Charles Tillman is one of the best strippers in the NFL" - John Madden 11/30/08 Chicago Bears vs. Minnesota Vikings game

by Chanman25 on Dec 9, 2008 8:12 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Maybe a better term is

Indifferent?

Facts are meaningless. You could use facts to prove anything that's even remotely true! --Homer J. Simpson

by Shanghai Badger on Dec 9, 2008 8:14 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

perhaps, though naive or misguided could fit

"Charles Tillman is one of the best strippers in the NFL" - John Madden 11/30/08 Chicago Bears vs. Minnesota Vikings game

by Chanman25 on Dec 9, 2008 8:15 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Also true

Facts are meaningless. You could use facts to prove anything that's even remotely true! --Homer J. Simpson

by Shanghai Badger on Dec 9, 2008 8:16 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

My favorite part? This photo!

The lettering is a bit out of focus, but anyone familiar with Chicago’s alleys knows what that yellow sign means…

(that’s Blago on the right behind the Recycling bin – hey, now there’s an idea…)

Lou Brown: "My kinda team, Charlie, my kinda team..."

by ballhawk on Dec 9, 2008 6:25 PM CST reply actions   1 recs

eh...could you elaborate since we aren't all from Chitown?

"Charles Tillman is one of the best strippers in the NFL" - John Madden 11/30/08 Chicago Bears vs. Minnesota Vikings game

by Chanman25 on Dec 9, 2008 7:31 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

It's a sign that says

Keep your garbage cans closed in order to stop rat infestation.

Old Style is the nectar of life.

by Mordecai on Dec 9, 2008 7:35 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

hah well that certainly is symbolic...

Nathaniel Hawthorne would be proud

"Charles Tillman is one of the best strippers in the NFL" - John Madden 11/30/08 Chicago Bears vs. Minnesota Vikings game

by Chanman25 on Dec 9, 2008 7:39 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Wow -- you're really into Nat

Since the whole “Scarlet Letter” thing, aren’t ya?

Facts are meaningless. You could use facts to prove anything that's even remotely true! --Homer J. Simpson

by Shanghai Badger on Dec 9, 2008 8:11 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

haha oh yeah definitely, it has inspired me!

I actually don’t mind the readings, but what teachers see as symbolic is beyond me..

"Charles Tillman is one of the best strippers in the NFL" - John Madden 11/30/08 Chicago Bears vs. Minnesota Vikings game

by Chanman25 on Dec 9, 2008 8:12 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Oh, don't be so Dim(sdale)

I know, that was lame, but that’s all I’ve got for SL jokes right now.

Facts are meaningless. You could use facts to prove anything that's even remotely true! --Homer J. Simpson

by Shanghai Badger on Dec 9, 2008 8:14 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

haha I think we should put Rod on a scaffold with an "A"

“A” for asshole

"Charles Tillman is one of the best strippers in the NFL" - John Madden 11/30/08 Chicago Bears vs. Minnesota Vikings game

by Chanman25 on Dec 9, 2008 8:15 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

You could add other adjectives

Arrogant
Angry

hopefully not “acquitted”, right?

Facts are meaningless. You could use facts to prove anything that's even remotely true! --Homer J. Simpson

by Shanghai Badger on Dec 9, 2008 8:17 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

hah! "a"greed

but right now it is "a"lleged

"Charles Tillman is one of the best strippers in the NFL" - John Madden 11/30/08 Chicago Bears vs. Minnesota Vikings game

by Chanman25 on Dec 9, 2008 8:20 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

see Nathaniel Hawthorne can bring about fun times!

hurray Romance Novels!

"Charles Tillman is one of the best strippers in the NFL" - John Madden 11/30/08 Chicago Bears vs. Minnesota Vikings game

by Chanman25 on Dec 9, 2008 8:22 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

"A"llegory!

Facts are meaningless. You could use facts to prove anything that's even remotely true! --Homer J. Simpson

by Shanghai Badger on Dec 9, 2008 8:25 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

"A"ngel

that of course does not apply to Rod

"Charles Tillman is one of the best strippers in the NFL" - John Madden 11/30/08 Chicago Bears vs. Minnesota Vikings game

by Chanman25 on Dec 9, 2008 8:31 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Not sure about the small print at the bottom, but at the top it says...

“WARNING”

below that is a nice little image of your friendly neighborhood rat, and then I think the next line says

“DANGER: RATS”

Something tells me this ‘rat’ is going to be squealing like a stuck pig real soon…

Lou Brown: "My kinda team, Charlie, my kinda team..."

by ballhawk on Dec 10, 2008 8:36 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

*Chuckles*

The best part I thought was the guy from the FBI saying

“If Illinois isn’t the most corrupt state, it’s a contender for the title”

I find it even more hilarious given the fact that he ran on the platform of
fighting corruption from Ryan…

- Over? Did you say "over"? Nothing is over until we decide it is! Was it over when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor? Hell no!
- Germans?
- Forget it, he's rolling.

by Endrick on Dec 9, 2008 6:33 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

A couple of thoughts...

1. This is insane. Really Blago????

2. Appearently the Whistle Blower was Rahm Emanuel ( I am assuming that his camp was upset that they couldnt pick the seat and he alerted people that these shenanigans was going on)

3.The Prosecutors quote “If Illinois isnt the most corrupt state, it is one helluva competitor” made me lol

4. Really Blago??? It amazes me how stupid people can be (why would he talk about that on the phone)

5. I agree with Rod that a senate seat is very valuable.

6. He needs to resign before he gets impeached.

7. The people should elect his successor (It would BS in the wake of this if someone like Jesse Jr. or Jan Schakowsky was able to waltz in)

8. Just unbelievable

9. The Cubs stuff is what really bothers me the most becuase part of me thinks we could have had our ownership situation resolved if he wasnt being a corrupt ass.

That is all…

"I played with one of the best pitchers in history, Greg Maddux," Zambrano said"

by fischisgod on Dec 9, 2008 7:33 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

I think you're right about #9.

Maybe not. But all that ISFA stuff last summer held up the sale, and we now know Rod was involved in it.

"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al on Dec 9, 2008 8:03 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

the law...

… is the law, and at this moment the law in many states dictate that the replacement for politicans who leave their current office be made by appointment or succession. So saying that someone like Jackson or Schakwosky waltzing in would be BS ignores that many many states do things this way. The fact of the matter is if Blago appoints anyone it will serve as a major scar. This is why Emil Jones was thought to be the replacement, he’d be a two year placeholder until the 2010 election.

Durbin has been public in advocating for a special election which it appears the State Assembly will meet on Monday to put in motion. If that does indeed happen look for Blago to certainly not sign it and sit on it for 60 days. In that time he’ll probably appoint someone who the US Senate will refuse to sit. If somehow this special election law happens it will then require primary elections and a general election. This will take months and months.

It amazes me that there is no provision in state law to have a Governor who is under investigation to be temporarily removed from office while his case is settled.

by dmlichte on Dec 9, 2008 8:35 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

hah, well there are rumors out there that Ditka could run for Senate

how great would that be haha

"Charles Tillman is one of the best strippers in the NFL" - John Madden 11/30/08 Chicago Bears vs. Minnesota Vikings game

by Chanman25 on Dec 9, 2008 8:45 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Sorry...

… but politics aside the man is an egomaniacal idiot.

by dmlichte on Dec 9, 2008 8:55 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

And nearly most of congress isn't?

"Charles Tillman is one of the best strippers in the NFL" - John Madden 11/30/08 Chicago Bears vs. Minnesota Vikings game

by Chanman25 on Dec 9, 2008 9:07 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

The problem with temporary removal...

Is the risk of politically motivated investigations as a tactic. On the national level, you can think of the number of investigations of both Clinton and Bush that had no basis (though some were warranted, to be sure), or more recently on the state level, the various investigations of Gov. Palin that amounted to very little legally.

Forcing temporary removal makes those tactics far too appealing. (Most governors are likely under some form of investigation at the moment, mostly because it takes little evidence to require them) That would be my guess for why the system is as it is in most states.

The Illinois situation right now is the exception that proves the rule.

by CubsWin!Oregon on Dec 9, 2008 11:29 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

I just find it hilarious that Rod

thought he could sell the Senate Seat for a staggering price…..and not get caught..

"Charles Tillman is one of the best strippers in the NFL" - John Madden 11/30/08 Chicago Bears vs. Minnesota Vikings game

by Chanman25 on Dec 9, 2008 7:35 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

yea its puzzling

howewever when you have that much power you dont think like that. Look at the Juice. You would have thought after he got off on killing two people he wouldnt have kidnapped people at gun point.

"I played with one of the best pitchers in history, Greg Maddux," Zambrano said"

by fischisgod on Dec 9, 2008 7:37 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

"allegedly" killed two people

"Charles Tillman is one of the best strippers in the NFL" - John Madden 11/30/08 Chicago Bears vs. Minnesota Vikings game

by Chanman25 on Dec 9, 2008 7:39 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

lol

Are you a juice supporter???

"I played with one of the best pitchers in history, Greg Maddux," Zambrano said"

by fischisgod on Dec 9, 2008 7:45 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

haha nope just making a joke, I do love how Jim Rome quotes it

Yeah he “allegedly” did it, “probably”, “almost certainly, "who else would it have been-ly?”

"Charles Tillman is one of the best strippers in the NFL" - John Madden 11/30/08 Chicago Bears vs. Minnesota Vikings game

by Chanman25 on Dec 9, 2008 7:47 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Dude JimRome is great

if you haventt seen it go to youtube and see the video of him getting attacked by Jim Everett lol

"I played with one of the best pitchers in history, Greg Maddux," Zambrano said"

by fischisgod on Dec 9, 2008 7:53 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

"Cris" Everett to you!

If you call me that one more time!
“I already did twice!”

"Charles Tillman is one of the best strippers in the NFL" - John Madden 11/30/08 Chicago Bears vs. Minnesota Vikings game

by Chanman25 on Dec 9, 2008 7:54 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

priceless

"I played with one of the best pitchers in history, Greg Maddux," Zambrano said"

by fischisgod on Dec 9, 2008 7:55 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

If I'm Tony Rezko

I’m ratting out Blago the first chance I get (if he hasn’t done so already.)

Old Style is the nectar of life.

by Mordecai on Dec 9, 2008 7:41 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

Rezko?? That could open a huge can of worms there...

"Charles Tillman is one of the best strippers in the NFL" - John Madden 11/30/08 Chicago Bears vs. Minnesota Vikings game

by Chanman25 on Dec 9, 2008 7:42 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

yea i hope the Rezko thing interests me a lot

He has some connections that run a little close to Pennsylvania avenue

"I played with one of the best pitchers in history, Greg Maddux," Zambrano said"

by fischisgod on Dec 9, 2008 7:45 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Interesting Sidenote

I’ll think you won’t see Dick Durbin asking Bush to pardon George Ryan anymore.

Old Style is the nectar of life.

by Mordecai on Dec 9, 2008 7:49 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

i jsut read about that today

what is the deal with that?

"I played with one of the best pitchers in history, Greg Maddux," Zambrano said"

by fischisgod on Dec 9, 2008 7:52 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Well, he's already asked.

But I’m guessing Bush won’t do it.

"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al on Dec 9, 2008 8:03 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Durbin

I was very disappointed in this and shocked that Durbin would push that.

by dmlichte on Dec 9, 2008 8:36 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

I think almost everyone was. I know I was, too.

"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al on Dec 10, 2008 3:41 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

disappointed me too

must have been a big favor in the past…

"Truth does not do as much good in the world as the semblance of truth does evil," - Duc de La Rochefoucauld, Maxims, 64.

by Emelie on Dec 10, 2008 5:18 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Does this mean then that

Rod Blagojevich won’t be able to run the Witness Protection Program for errant Cubs fans who get in the way of Cubs outfielders during playoff games?

What a preening, self-aggrandizing and sociopathic jackass this guy turned out to be.

But Made in Illinois and home grown! Our export of scandal is second to none!

Well, Next Year is here .. and Jack's century's gotta end some time .. GO CUBBIES!

by cubnational on Dec 9, 2008 7:57 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

I come from a territory (P.R.) where the current outgoing governor is accused of similar "pay to play" charges.

The outgoing Democratic and anti-statehood governor of Puerto Rico awaits trial in federal court in San Juan. Both came to power on an anti-corruption platform. So, I fully understand what Illinois is going through right now. It never ceases to amaze me what greedy and corrupt persons can do with political power.

by Fraggin Judge on Dec 9, 2008 9:43 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

Why is this such a big story?

Corrupt Chicago politics is the normal way of doing things…

"I've never complained about it. I'm thankful to have a jersey." Mark DeRosa, 22 Aug 2007

by DeRoMyHero on Dec 9, 2008 10:44 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

as crazy as this sounds...

… the abnormalness of this corruption was just baffling. Not that corruption is normal but this was just absurd, shocking and beyond belief. We all knew that this was coming but I cannot imagine that anyone on the outside could have imagined that it would have been this shocking. The brazenness, audacity and sheer stupidity… He knew he was being listened to but still did some of the most outlandish acts of corruption and honestly seems to think that he did nothing wrong.

by dmlichte on Dec 9, 2008 11:08 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Oh my lord...

…this is pretty stunning. Although we’re all aware of the political corruption that exists in Illinois, this is of a far greater magnitude than anything we’ve seen. It sounds as if the US attorney was stepping up their investigation into pay-to-play contracts (i.e., the Rezko stuff) and just stumbled onto the Senate seat auction and the extortion of the Tribune Company. That Blagojevich would attempt something so brazen, at a time when everybody knew he was “Public Official A” from the Rezko indictment, is utterly insane.

Now, the state legislature needs to impeach him as quickly as possible. If Blagojevich was crazy enough to do this in the first place, I’ll bet that he’s crazy enough to try and hang on as governor while awaiting trial. The special election idea seems like the best idea, simply because the appointment of anyone other than a placeholder will be questioned on it’s face, even if its Pat Quinn making the choice and not Rod. Still, the seat will be vacant as of 1/3 so there’s not really time to hold a special election without appointing a placeholder first. And who would the placeholder be?

Dawn Clark Netsch makes sense, or maybe Jim Edgar if they want to appoint a Republican for a few months as a goodwill gesture. I’ve heard Carol Moseley-Braun’s name mentioned but her own scandals will come back up if that option is actually scrutinized. Heck, even Chuck Percy’s name came up today and he’s older than Mr. Burns.

Perhaps Blago’s biggest mistake was in failing to appoint Pat Fitzgerald (the US attorney) to the senate seat…maybe he could’ve taken the pressure off himself but, then again, why would Blago throw away his golden ticket?

"Some people will look at a glass of water and say it's half-empty, while another guy will look at it and say it's half-full. A Cubs fan looks at the same glass and asks, "When's it gonna spill?" - Mike Royko

by LaddieRenfroe on Dec 9, 2008 11:24 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

Edgar

this state has gone steadily down the craptoilet since Gentleman Jim left office.

If there is a special election there is talk Edgar might run for the seat.

I don’t think the 2 most likely 2010 candidates will run (Jesse Jackson Jr. on the dem Mark Kirk on the rep side)

MaIne South Hawks 2008 Class 8a Champs!

by cubstoseriesby100 on Dec 10, 2008 6:15 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Blagojevich

What amazes me is him not knowing he was being taped. this is like those baseball players who wrote personal checks for their steroid/HGH purchases.

I don’t know about you guys but when I make calls about bribes I clean my phones first and when I buy my illegal drugs I pay cash.

What is even more amazing is people are surprised by this. My dog knows how corrupt the guy is.

As far as Daley goes, the reason he is still mayor is sadly there has never been anyone even close to qualified to run against him. When Jesse Jackson Jr is probably the best possible choice that’s how low it is.

When the Cubs clinched in 03 I was right in front of him and Jackson Sr.

MaIne South Hawks 2008 Class 8a Champs!

by cubstoseriesby100 on Dec 10, 2008 6:13 AM CST reply actions   0 recs

Blag-lego-vich?

Ever notice… the similarity?

by digitalbenjamin on Dec 10, 2008 11:12 AM CST reply actions   0 recs

The one on the right is smarter.

"Hats for bats.....keep bats warm." - Pedro Cerrano
"Hey bartender, Jobu needs a refill !!!!!!!" - Eddie Harris

by willie mays hayes' gloves on Dec 10, 2008 11:13 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.

by santoswoodenlegs on Dec 10, 2008 12:15 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Here's what he looked like at 6 AM Tuesday

Facts are meaningless. You could use facts to prove anything that's even remotely true! --Homer J. Simpson

by Shanghai Badger on Dec 10, 2008 12:44 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

This could be the future for a few Chicago pols

Facts are meaningless. You could use facts to prove anything that's even remotely true! --Homer J. Simpson

by Shanghai Badger on Dec 10, 2008 12:45 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

True punishment

I think its only appropriate if Blago is sitting in Prison or a jail cell come Oct. ‘09 while the Cubs are winning a World Series title. He’d go from sitting in the first row next to Crane Kenney watching the team in front of him to sitting in the prison rec room with his George Ryan and other white collar criminals watching on a 19 inch RCA.

by dmlichte on Dec 10, 2008 1:03 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

AL

Al I would be interested in you relating what it was like in the newsroom Tuesday morning when it broke!

MaIne South Hawks 2008 Class 8a Champs!

by cubstoseriesby100 on Dec 10, 2008 6:07 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

We were just as stunned as everyone else.

"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al on Dec 11, 2008 9:47 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

To me where this is BCB related is the Cubs Ownership

…their attempt to sale the team and their relationship with their fans, many of whom are Illinois tax payers. I don’t doubt for a minute that the tribune owner would have done such a deal. taxpayers subsidize this B.S. to the tune of $100 million plus, and fans face higher prices. Simultaneously, the owner of your favorite baseball team could potentially participate in a plot to feed the fans and voters watered down coverage/propaganda regarding their elected officials. To me, the onwer of the Tribune is just as greedy as the governor, they were made for each other and this sort of “deal”. It’s totally BCB worthy.

by DudeVf11 on Dec 15, 2008 9:57 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

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