2008 Community Projections: Carlos Zambrano

by Al Yellon on Feb 23, 2008 7:37 AM CST in Community Projections

Now that the dust has settled from yesterday's ticket sale, let's go back to our projections. All eight of the likely position player starters are now posted -- and I will leave the Kosuke Fukudome and Felix Pie threads open till Monday morning in case you want to add your projection for them -- so let's move on to pitchers.

For starting pitchers, let's use the following categories:

G, GS, IP, H, ER, BB, SO, W, L, ERA, WHIP

Please calculate your ERA and WHIP using the other numbers you post.

So, what say you for Z this year? Is this the year, at age 27 (in June) where he finally has that Cy Young year we all feel he has in him? Or has he established a new level of performance, too many walks, too many pitches, and will just be good, not great?

I'll start -- somewhere in between is where I see him.

G 34
GS 34
IP 220
H 190
ER 86
BB 87
SO 192
W 17
L 10
ERA 3.51
WHIP 1.259

Carlos Zambrano's career stats at baseball-reference.com

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Big Z

G 32
GS 32
IP 213
H 179
ER 85
BB 90
SO 189
W 18
L 9
ERA 3.59
WHIP 1.263

by McRipper on Feb 23, 2008 7:54 AM CST reply actions

los

G 34
GS 34
IP 217
H 172
ER 74
BB 84
SO 204
W 19
L 8
ERA 3.07
WHIP 1.18

by SleepyLaBeef on Feb 23, 2008 10:34 AM CST reply actions

Carlos Zambrano

G - 33
GS - 33
IP - 224
H - 188
ER - 85
BB - 94
SO - 212

W - 19
L - 6

ERA - 3.42
WHIP - 1.26

by Ayralin on Feb 23, 2008 10:56 AM CST reply actions

Great year from Z

G 35
GS 35
IP 231
H 184
ER 79
BB 82
SO 218
W 21
L 9
ERA 3.08
WHIP 1.15

by socalbob on Feb 23, 2008 11:20 AM CST reply actions

off topic question

will the march 22 cubs/sox game be televised?

wheatfield mike down here in god's country

by wheatfield mike on Feb 23, 2008 12:22 PM CST reply actions

Answer...

... no. Check this schedule page for all the ST telecasts. There is one more that's not listed there: March 15 vs. White Sox, which will be a WGN telecast with the Sox announcers.

"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al Yellon on Feb 23, 2008 12:26 PM CST up reply actions

This is the year

Zambrano needs to prove he is either a true ACE, or just a number 1 on a team that doesn't have anyone better.

I don't know about specific projections, but I think he will have a very good year.

"I don't like them fellas that drive in two runs but let in three" Casey Stengel

by MPH73 on Feb 23, 2008 12:50 PM CST reply actions

Zambrano and the Cy Young Award

G 41(6 as PH, 1 as RP in last week of season)
GS 34
IP 250
H 150
ER 65
BB 75
SO 260
W 25
L 3
ERA 2.34
WHIP .9
HR 6 (2 of the HR as PH)
1 save (Comes in in the bottom of the ninth in the last week of the season with bases loaded after Cubs make several errors behind Cub Ultra Closer Wood and strikes out the batter on three pitches)

Cy Young Award and close in the MVP race.

by frustratedfan on Feb 23, 2008 12:52 PM CST reply actions

I'd love for it to be true

but, ....

this projection redefines fantasy baseball.

If It Takes Forever ....

by wrigley1 on Feb 23, 2008 1:29 PM CST up reply actions

I have to give you credit

you are incorrigible. The ERA is ridiculous, but at least technically possible, based on Z's stuff (let's be clear, though, it's horrible for a projection).

But those WHIP numbers are pure fantasy. 150 hits in 250 innings? Har har! A .9 WHIP while still walking 75? It is to laugh! Z's good, but he isn't even in the same league as late-nineties Pedro (both in the Al-NL, and abstract senses), which is essentially the caliber of WHIP you're projecting.

You're a decent sideshow at times, but I'm not tipping.

by Thelonious on Feb 24, 2008 11:57 AM CST up reply actions

as Al would type

LSA!!!!!!!!!!!

by socalbob on Feb 24, 2008 12:28 PM CST up reply actions

Solid.

You're a decent sideshow at times, but I'm not tipping.

Exactly. This "frustratedfan" is a one-trick pony.

"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07

by gary varsho on Feb 24, 2008 2:27 PM CST up reply actions

Z

G 33
GS 33
IP 215
H 145
ER 70
BB 85
SO 222
W 21
L 7
ERA 2.93
WHIP 1.07

by PrincetonCubs on Feb 23, 2008 1:29 PM CST reply actions

Z Thoughts

Have to hope he will have a better overall season compared to 2007, but I think he has peaked. What he provides is more than helpful to the team even if it is not true "ace" numbers.

G 34
GS 34
IP 218.1
H 185
ER 90
BB 97
SO 181
W 16
L 10
ERA 3.71
WHIP 1.292

by Qixotl on Feb 23, 2008 3:10 PM CST reply actions

Big Z

wins 21
era 2.98
Finally gets the no hitter against the Astros.
5 Hrs

The no hitter and 2 hrs will come on BCB day.
We need something to top last year.

Is it March yet?

by Me and Lou WS 07 on Feb 23, 2008 4:30 PM CST reply actions

Mr. 38 Special

G    34
GS    33
IP    219
H    175
ER    79
BB    91
SO    204
W    20
L    8
ERA    3.25
WHIP    1.215

SV 1

Times he ignores the third base coach and is thrown out at home by 35 feet: 2

by DrGalazkiewicz on Feb 23, 2008 5:49 PM CST reply actions

Nice

I like that he gets a save. Seems to me he should be willing to pitch out of the pen now and then for all the $ he's making. Orel Hershiser used to specialize in getting a save or two a year.

"Have Keith Moreland drop a routine fly. Give everybody two bags of peanuts and a frosty malt, And I'll be ready to die." -Steve Goodman

by danimal15 on Feb 24, 2008 6:17 PM CST up reply actions

quick question

I did not want to start a new thread over this. Does any one know if these spring games will be televised through direct tv extra innings. Is there more shwon through other teams? let me know please cause i hope i do not miss these spring trainging games.

by Glacier on Feb 23, 2008 8:27 PM CST reply actions

I do not think....

... spring training games are on Extra Innings. Some MIGHT be on MLB.TV, but that's about it. Between radio and TV, most of the Cubs' ST games are on some kind of broadcast media. I'll try to post the location of each one every day (if available).

"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al Yellon on Feb 24, 2008 4:13 AM CST up reply actions

Carlos

G: 33
GS: 33
IP: 231
H:179
BB: 91
SO: 189
W: 18
L: 11
ERA: 3.27
WHIP: 1.121

Soto factor for a solid year for Z, I see him maturing, not peaking.

Silver Slugger award for Z also.

by Johnny Callison was a Cub on Feb 23, 2008 11:04 PM CST reply actions

Big Z's Career year

G 33
GS 33
IP 212
H 172
ER 78
BB 85
SO 180
W 19
L 7
ERA 3.311
WHIP 1.198

"There are no curses here...Games are won and lost on the baseball field" - Lou Piniella

by El Borto on Feb 24, 2008 9:30 AM CST reply actions

Zambrano

G 34
GS 34
IP 229
H 127
ER 85
BB 104
SO 215
W 18
L 7
ERA 2.91
WHIP 0.91

"You can't take life to seriously, you don't get out of it alive"

by wild bill on Feb 24, 2008 9:40 AM CST reply actions

Z

G 34
GS 34
IP 222
W 22
L 6
ERA 2.95
WHIP 0.96

Cy Young

by MDBNIU on Feb 24, 2008 10:42 PM CST reply actions

tony412

G 34
GS 34
IP 218
H 158
ER 71
BB 82
SO 203
W 19
L 9
ERA 3.37
WHIP 1.154

"We're going to turn this team around 360 degrees." -Jason Kidd

by tony412 on Feb 25, 2008 8:09 AM CST reply actions

From chimpan-A to chimpan-Z!

Carlos Zambrano 2008

G 32
GS 32
IP 208
H 179
ER 82
BB 91
SO 201
W 18
L 8
ERA 3.55
WHIP 1.30

As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.

by santoswoodenlegs on Feb 25, 2008 11:11 AM CST reply actions

Zambrano

G/GS-33
IP-228
W-18
L-7
SO-190
BB-91
H-195
ER-98
ERA-3.87
WHIP-1.17

Not one person, including myself has predicted an ERA higher than his last seasons. Hopefully he can meet our expectations, it is going to be very tough.

"Harlem Furniture......You'll like our style!"

by Imtrejo on Feb 25, 2008 1:27 PM CST reply actions

you didn't calculate your WHIP correctly

It's about 1.25

by Thelonious on Feb 25, 2008 3:33 PM CST up reply actions

You are correct!

"Harlem Furniture......You'll like our style!"

by Imtrejo on Feb 25, 2008 4:52 PM CST up reply actions

It doesn't matter

so much for the final tabulations. The spreadsheet calculates ERA and WHIP from the numbers given. Many people posting predictions miss calculated their numbers, no big deal.

"Harlem Furniture......You'll like our style!"

by Imtrejo on Feb 25, 2008 4:55 PM CST up reply actions

I'm a little behind...

...on my projections, so I'll make this quick. I think the calmer, more focused Big Z we saw at the end of the '07 season is here to stay. Does that mean he'll put up Santana-esque numbers? No, I'm afraid not. But he'll pretty much make across-the-board improvements, though he doesn't quite get back to the sweet WHIP he put up in '05 (1.15) or the stunning ERA he put in '04 (2.75). Ze numbers:

G: 34
GS: 34
IP: 221
H: 175
ER: 85
BB: 95
SO: 185
W: 18
L: 9
ERA: 3.46
WHIP: 1.22

And, FWIW, Big Z hits 4 home runs, breaks one bat over his leg again and does not highlight his hair at any point during the season.

Ladies and gentlemen, your 2008 Chicago Cubs starting outfield: Soriano-Pie-Fukudome. Let it be.

by daver on Feb 26, 2008 4:02 PM CST reply actions