Baseball's worst players...
Dayn Perry (Yes, he's a hack. We can still discuss the hackery he puts out.) has a new column out in which he picks his worst starting player at each position (not including pitcher/DH). Interesting is the fact that two former Cubs appear on this list. For the full article, go here:
http://msn.foxsports.com/mlb/story/7737168/Position-by-position-look-at-MLB's-worst
While I can't respect most of what Perry puts out, I will give him kudos for recognizing what the Brewers apparently could not, that Jason Kendall is going to get SLAUGHTERED, both offensively and defensively.
Also, does Juan Pierre deserve the "nod" at left field? Not sure who off the top of my head would be worse, though.
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ha i like it
This list is such a crapshoot.
What? Are you serious, Dayn Perry? You think Omar Vizquel is now a well below average defensive shortstop? Get off the Internet right the hell now, son. The only one better last season was Adam Everett. I'm willing to let John McDonald into this conversation as well, but that's about it.
It's not entirely enough to offset his attrocious offense - he's a below average shortstop overall, probably by about a win. But worst? Hardly. [The worst shortstop in all of baseball last season? I haven't thoroughly researched this, but I feel confident in saying it was Felipe Lopez. Guy hit like Adam Everrett and fielded like Hanley Ramirez. Damn he was horrible.]
I could go on (and I think it'd be really fun to stir the pot by making the case for Vernon Wells as the worst center fielder) but I'll abstain.
That said... I fail to see a way he isn't the worst regular center fielder next season that doesn't involve Joe Torre taking his job away.
I see a way...
As for Vizquel, in fairness I have to say that Perry didn't quite say that Vizquel was well below average defensively. He just said that Vizquel's range is well below average. Now, I haven't done the research to confirm/deny, but I wouldn't be surprised if that's true.
Giants
re: Giants
Shortstop
by Mike Vails Evil Twin on Feb 4, 2008 1:57 PM CST reply actions
lol
Honestly, the guy NEVER says word one bad about his precious cardinals. Izturis is obviously worse than vizquel. Adam Kennedy should be pretty high on the list of worst 2b as well.
Pierre
Ray King could tag and score standing up on a shallow fly to left!
by Hugest Canadian Cubs Fan on Feb 4, 2008 2:32 PM CST reply actions
Just reading Jason Kendall's name...
No
re: No
Dang...
Twice more
The list is
At first I think I would nominate Hatteberg(CIN).
And I have to believe both at the plate and field our former Cardinal friend now with SD, Edmonds is at the end of the road.
And another
What?
I'm not even reading this link.
That is a good article...
by number1cubfan on Feb 4, 2008 9:20 PM CST reply actions
You said it, brother!
humor me -
i've met the guy and liked him - in fact, i took him to his very first ever cubs game at wrigley when he moved to chicago a few years back, he was dating a friend at the time - and other than the fact he is a cardinals fan, i thought he wasn't too bad. he lamely dumped our friend later that year, but seemed alright.
enlighten me please.
by paulreuschel on Feb 4, 2008 9:58 PM CST reply actions
Dayn Perry
Oh please.
That's what annoys me the most about the piece, actually. For someone that Fox Sports hired away from BP, Perry does so little real statistical analysis.
It's kind of like when CNN wanted to try and pry away some of Fox News' audience, so they hired away... Paula Zahn, the person at Fox News who perhaps least emblemized the difference between the two organizations. He represents so little of what makes statsy baseball analysis compelling.
This really gets
I'd be stunned to learn of Perry ever played an inning of organized ball in his entire life.
Why is that a prerequisite for being a good sportscaster/sportswriter? On thing has absolutely nothing to do with the other. It's like telling Gail Godwin to involve herself in an abusive relationship before she writes about women in abusive relationships. Dayne Perry is a hack, not because he never played "organized ball"--which has not been established, BTW--but because he displays obvious favoritism for his favorite teams his journalistic pieces, half-asses his stats, and puts out hackneyed drivel, like this particular column, that are pointless, venomous examples of overt bias.
Disagree
Ok seriously
Do me a favor: site one source that says Perry did not play in high school. Or better yet, name one "saber-journalist" who you can verify did not play baseball in high school. Just one.
You're making an assumption about Perry and attacking him on that assumption. That's not just absurd. It's retarded.
Actually retarded is
It says nothing about attacking another bases on assumption.
Really; retarded? I know Im being sensitive here but I take offense to that. Stay out of the Dan Bernstein neighborhood and choose a better word.
Re:
I know Im being sensitive here
Yes.
On the one hand, I'm genuinely sorry if I have seriously offended anyone with my decidedly non-PC (and possibly poor) choice of words. I certainly would never aim to undermine my own point by using words that hurt my credibility, nor would I ever seek to offend anyone who's had to deal with developmental disabilities first hand.
On the other hand, you're an adult and can probably cope.
In the future I will try to use my copy of "Merriam-Webster's Edgy Thesaurus, Internet Edition (Abridged)", which in this case would have led me to use a different term such as "pants-pissingly stupid", "Joe Morgan-esque", or "like someone vomited and the vomit became sentient and typed out your post for you."
Though that might offend sufferers from enuresis, sub-literate sports commentators, and self-aware piles of goo so I guess I just can't win.
Ha,
Yes, I can cope, the way I look at it Ill correct people using words like that one person at a time, thats the best I can do.
Thank you...
Most political pundits...
by santoswoodenlegs on Feb 5, 2008 12:47 PM CST up reply actions
Oh, and I can damn well figure out...
But wait,
Number one,
Number two, address the argument I made, not the one you wanted me to make.
Number three, playing the game hasn't made much of analyst out of Mark Grace, nor much of a writer out of Rick Telander.
Number four, find me proof that Dayne Perry never played. Your whole argument is premised on if's and but's.
Comment from that board:
What's so sad....
Agree about Cain
I only cared so much because Cain was on my fantasy team, but still.
Juan Pierre
Sigh.
It's his offense that is wildly attrocious. The man makes outs. Lots and lots of outs. He is a prodigious out maker, an out machine. He will get out. Again and again and again and again. Juan Pierre makes outs.
What Juan Pierre does not do is hit for extra bases. Or take walks. Or do any of the things that you can do to actually be useful to a team offensively.
Let's take a look at 2004, his absolute best season as a hitter. He had 221 hits, leading the league. But he was second in outs, with an astounding 507. And do you know how many extra bases he took on a hit? 55! And his stolen base percentage was only a mediocre 65%. Over the course of an entire season he was only worth about 3.5 runs more than teammate Jeff Conine, and he needed 169 additional plate appearances to do it.
And this was Juan Pierre's career year. This is the one year he finally hit above the league average. This was his one shining moment in a career full of suck. And he still couldn't muster an OPS+ higher than Matt Murton's career line.
He also set a record in 2006 with the Cubs.
Ass Clown
Could you be a little more...

I have to hand it to you here...
by santoswoodenlegs on Feb 6, 2008 3:17 PM CST up reply actions

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