Open Thread: Cubs vs. Athletics, Wednesday 3/19, 2:05 CT
by Al Yellon on Mar 19, 2008 10:11 AM CDT
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PrintSCOTTSDALE, Arizona -- Yes, that's right: 2:05, not 3:05. The game is an hour earlier than it has been since the DST change, likely to give Lou and the staff an extra hour to prepare for the split-squad game against the Giants tonight (I'll post a recap of the day game later this afternoon which will also serve as the game thread for the night game). There will be audio coverage of both games via the MLB.com Mediacenter (A's announcers for the day game, MLB.com announcers for the night game, at least according to that link).
Other notes:- Jason Marquis is trade bait. Yawn. Yes, Gordon, we know.
- Was yesterday's lineup the one we will see Lou Piniella submit on March 31? Maybe. Probably. Lou's going to decide soon, says that Paul Sullivan article.
- Alex Cintron, who seemed to have made the roster, is hurt again, hurting his chances. Ronny Cedeno's big day yesterday probably helped his.
- At last, we know Kerry Wood's prepare-to-be-the-closer schedule:
Piniella said Wood would pitch in consecutive games today and Thursday, take a day off, then pitch again -- ostensibly to see how Wood responds to the kind of schedule closers routinely work. "He'll pitch an inning both days, then a day off, then work an inning-plus the next game," Pinella said.
- Finally, what's with the MLPBA "investigating" why Barry Bonds hasn't been signed? Doesn't Don Fehr have anything better to do?
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That's a misleading headline.
Yes, technically the MLBPA is doing that; they're investigating why EVERY free agent remaining unsigned didn't get offers. They do this every offseason. I suspect this year they're going to be somewhat more rigorous about it than in other years, due to their allegations of colusion at the Winter Meetings.
But since MLB has a history of actually coluding it's hard to blame them per se, and they're just doing due dilligence for their union members. Blame the headline writer for sensationalizing it if you like, but MLBPA's doing the right thing here.
Maybe.
Name me one player who's currently a free agent who you think is unsigned due to collusion.
"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx
I didn't say I thought there was collusion...
...I said I thought that MLBPA, given their mandate and the history of labor relations in baseball, was correct in investigating it. They do this every offseason, and if they're not doing this sort of thing, I fail to see how they can justify their salaries.
What type of investigative powers does Fehr have?
Is he going to look for clues like Nancy Drew?
Old Style is the nectar of life.
Are you 'watching' two today Al?
Big day for Dempster as he'll try to rebound from his disasterous start last time out. If he sucks it up again, can the Cubs afford to trade Marquis?
Yes, I'll be at both games.
Dempster starts the day game. Lieber starts the night game.
"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx
Either one on TV?
I know I could check but have to work so thought I'd just post the Q.
Damn Nutrisystem...I'm freakin dyin for some Italian beef!
by Kinky Reggae on Mar 19, 2008 11:59 AM CDT up reply actions
collusion
Well there is collusion and there is collusion, I guess it depends on how fehr and company look at it.
1, organized collusion where they all got together at the winter meetings and said let's keep (insert name here) out of the leaugues this year.
2, unorganized collusion where thay are all just thinking the same thing ie: this guy (insert name here) has been bad for the game and now that he is a free agent i really don't want him around
by carolinacub on Mar 19, 2008 10:35 AM CDT reply actions 1 recs
Just because no one wants to hire you...
doesn't necessarily mean there has been collusion. I work in IT, and if I choose to involve myself with known "hackers" who become notorious for abusing network security and it becomes a big public spectacle, then even if I'm innocent, I would expect any prospective employer to give my application a big second thought and choose another candidate over me most of the time.
As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.
by santoswoodenlegs on Mar 19, 2008 10:44 AM CDT up reply actions
Exactly.
Bonds may still have baseball talent, but I can't imagine any team wants the headaches that come with him.
That's not collusion, that's just business sense.
"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx
He is (was), but
he isn't a part of their licensing agreement, so he can't be on baseball cards or video games without his approval.
Old Style is the nectar of life.
anyone else
watching espn right now. the bosox are striking mlb and refusing to play.
GO CUBS GO!!!!!
So...
if this article on mlb.com is right...then everyone including the coaching staff and trainers is expecting 40k each as a "stipend" to fly to Japan and play a baseball game? Holy crap, get over yourselves.
As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.
by santoswoodenlegs on Mar 19, 2008 11:37 AM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
I would have thought
they would have had this sorted out long ago.
"We're going to turn this team around 360 degrees." -Jason Kidd
Oh Please...
As if you don't get paid enough money and benefits to follow around the best team in baseball. Excuse me while I cry myself to sleep for you. Absolute joke if you ask me, classless.
poor f'ing bosox
omg the worlds coming to a end. there not gonna get an extra 40000 dollars to go to japan for "19" days. what a disaster. on the other hand mlb is gonna reap multi millions off this trip. my favorite sport is really really really pissing me off. i'm sick of these idiots.
GO CUBS GO!!!!!
The problem is that the coaches aren't getting the agreed amount $40,000
And the players are making a stand for their coaches.
Old Style is the nectar of life.
Yep
People forget that major league coaches like Larry Rothschild, Alan Trammell, Gerald Perry get paid peanuts. In fact very few coaches make north of a $100,000 per season.
Those are mighty fine
peanuts to me. I'll take a $100K nut. I make good money, sure, but apparently it's less than peanuts.
I'm with Cubsluver22: it gets harder and harder to not be pissed at the greed.
"Just because you've had enough/ doesn't mean you wanted too much." -Dean Young
Someone is making money off this trip.
As with everything in MLB, the money can go one of two places - to the on-field product, or to the owners. I seriously don't understand why so many fans reflexively sign with the owners. I guarantee you the coaches have a hell of a lot less money than guys like Selig and Reinsdorf and Angelos.
I'm not siding with owners,
they are all in it as far as I'm concerned. Seriously. Coaches make $100K? How many of us here make that much? How many of us here make a fraction of that?
I agree that the owners are even MORE greedy. Sure. But there's plenty of nastiness and absurdity to go around when you're talking professional sports. My comment was aimed at the absurd amount of money that the entire industry commands, not at the owners or players per se.
I think what Cubsluver was saying as it all makes he/she sick, and with that I agree.
"Just because you've had enough/ doesn't mean you wanted too much." -Dean Young
please mdbiu
they may not make north of 100k but i'm sure they full coverage insurance for themselves and family. they have no expenses on a day to day basis ie. hotel,food,travel plus all the other perks that come with the job. then after all that their paid close to 6 digits a year. i would find that very hard to live on myself. hell normal americans like myself pay a bundle for health insurance,travel to and from work,food etc. baseball in general is f'ing out of hand completely. this pisses me off to no end.
GO CUBS GO!!!!!
by cubsluver22 on Mar 19, 2008 12:04 PM CDT up reply actions
Excuse me while I weep bitterly for them....
As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.
by santoswoodenlegs on Mar 19, 2008 12:05 PM CDT up reply actions
I think your a tad low...
...most major league coaches; pitching coaches, bench coaches etc. make well north of 100K per year.
Granted, they don't make close to what the manager does, but I'll bet your average coach is around 200-250K, with some lower and some higher.
The guys who get the shaft are the trainers, strength coaches etc. They work unbelievable hours (12-14 per day) and they don't hit the 100K mark.
"I don't like them fellas that drive in two runs but let in three" Casey Stengel
Disagree
Last year there was an article in one of the Chicago papers on this subject. I recall reading that Joey Cora, Harold Baines and Greg Walker of the White Sox made in the $70,000 range while Don Cooper's salary approached $100,000. Statistics for the Milwaukee Brewers were also included and they ran roughly parallel.
When Boston manager Terry Francona is making multi-millions and ditto 90% of the roster I can understand why the coaches on the Red Sox feel slighted by the payout strategy for the Japan trip.
Interesting...
...although I have a real hard time believing Cooper is only making 100K. I also think you will find the bench coaches and pitching coaches to be the highest paid amongst this group. I would think a guy like Rothschild (after turning down Detroit), is making North of 250K. Now, guys like Sinatro and the hitting coach may be much lower, but I think the established guys (especially ones hand picked by a good manager) are doing a little better than what the article indicates.
"I don't like them fellas that drive in two runs but let in three" Casey Stengel
Francona was quoted in one of today's articles
saying that for the coaches, they're talking about two-fifths of their annual salary, and that's why it's a big deal. If he means the stipend is equal to two-fifths of their existing salary, then the 100K number is exactly correct. If he means that the stipend would be two-fifths of their total compensation including the stipend, then they're getting even less in normal salary (i.e. 60K)
Why does everybody stand up and sing "Take Me Out to the Ballgame" when they're already there? ~Larry Anderson
That's my trainer man....my trainer...it hurts when you say that....
Damn Nutrisystem...I'm freakin dyin for some Italian beef!
by Kinky Reggae on Mar 19, 2008 2:22 PM CDT up reply actions
Wood
Wood won't be pitching today, has a bad back according to ESPN 1000. Hopefully its nothing serious, he's had back problems in the past.
Oh lord...
I cringed when I heard the announcer mention this yesterday, especially as the chalked it up to the off-day. God, Kerry can be frustrating.
by Damen Jackson on Mar 19, 2008 11:54 AM CDT up reply actions
The script from central casting just arrived....
Keeping Kerry Wood healthy for 6 months is going to be enormously difficult. This is why I think we will see a closer by committee of sorts. Wood will get the most save opportunities (hopefully), but Howry, Hart, Eyre, Marmol and even Wuertz are going to get their chances too.
I'm not against this plan
IMO, the Cubs have other more important needs at this time. If several guys have to do this job, then I am okay with this as long as they are all competent closers.
Damn Nutrisystem...I'm freakin dyin for some Italian beef!
by Kinky Reggae on Mar 19, 2008 12:00 PM CDT up reply actions
I agree...
it makes sense to gave a closer by committee to start the season. As much as I love Kerry, I think it would be foolish, given his injury history, to rely on him solely to close games. Hey, at least they have options in the pen.
by lance dickson on Mar 19, 2008 12:01 PM CDT up reply actions
Jabba is not pleased.
Ladies and gentlemen, your 2008 Chicago Cubs starting outfield: Soriano-Pie-Fukudome. Let it be.
Is that Jabba...
or a big heaping pile of doo???
by Damen Jackson on Mar 19, 2008 12:05 PM CDT up reply actions
Careful...
...you could be tossed to the Sarlacc for such a remark.
Ladies and gentlemen, your 2008 Chicago Cubs starting outfield: Soriano-Pie-Fukudome. Let it be.
youve got to be f-ing
kidding. i guess this should have been expected.
Bill James Felix Pie 2008 Projection: .283/.333/.456 16 HR 21 SB
RE: youve got to be f-ing
kidding. Wow, it does appear unlikely that Kerry will be able to stay healthy all season. This is not the first time that Kerry has had a stiff back either.
A bullpen by committee might not be a bad idea. We also don't know how Kerry would bounce back after a day game after a night game.
If Dempster get's lit up again today, maybe he should be considered for the closer role again.
This is very discouraging nonetheless.
Well...
If Kerry can still go back to back this week, I think it's a non-issue. If not, I go back to my initial perception of this situation, which is that Howry needs to be closing. Kerry setting him up. And Marmol giving you an inning or two in middle relief.
by Damen Jackson on Mar 19, 2008 12:34 PM CDT up reply actions
Wow. Just logged onto the new BCB
Nice!
Ed Lynch is STILL on the Cubs payroll, as our D-Backs scout in Phoenix. Lynch attends all 81 D-Back home games with a notepad in hand. Really paid off for us!
Way to stay with the program ;)
There is no place like Nebraska - Go Huskers!
by sanantonecub on Mar 19, 2008 12:14 PM CDT up reply actions
Wood
It's just a stiff back, lets not jump to conclusions and freak out over nothing.
I'd say
given the past 4 years.... there might be just a little reason to freak out. Guy is more fragile than glass joe in the first Mike Tyson's punch out!
by Lou In Blue on Mar 19, 2008 12:54 PM CDT up reply actions
he seems to be in better shape than past years. Hopefully that will keeps injuries away.
I'm drunk......and it shows.....
by Keystone80435 on Mar 19, 2008 1:12 PM CDT up reply actions
Wood
I really really really hope all works out for Wood. I miss Kerry Wood. I would love to see him as a dominant closer for a long time with the Cubs.
I'm drunk......and it shows.....
Why is there a DH?
Isn't this a home game for the Cubs?
"Chicago baseball fans, who are composites of scar tissue and mortifying memories..." - George F. Will
If both teams agree to it, you can have a DH in Spring Training.
Even if it's two NL teams, I want to say.
oh ok I see now
Yeah strange choice IMO
"Chicago baseball fans, who are composites of scar tissue and mortifying memories..." - George F. Will
Gameday.
Ladies and gentlemen, your 2008 Chicago Cubs starting outfield: Soriano-Pie-Fukudome. Let it be.
Yeah, really...
...why not give that spot to Hoff-power? No AL scouts in the crowd?
Ladies and gentlemen, your 2008 Chicago Cubs starting outfield: Soriano-Pie-Fukudome. Let it be.
For those who use it...
...Gameday Audio link is working.
Ladies and gentlemen, your 2008 Chicago Cubs starting outfield: Soriano-Pie-Fukudome. Let it be.
yeah...
I'm listening to some guy that wants to re-finance his two houses and his rental house. Riveting.
Hey, now we get to hear The Pretenders!
Ladies and gentlemen, your 2008 Chicago Cubs starting outfield: Soriano-Pie-Fukudome. Let it be.
nothing like a good Ohio band
to get us ready for a Chicago vs. Oakland game.
Lou Brown: "My kinda team, Charlie, my kinda team..."
Maybe so, but I don't mind hearing this song every now and then.
Ladies and gentlemen, your 2008 Chicago Cubs starting outfield: Soriano-Pie-Fukudome. Let it be.
Andy Samberg and Travis Buck...
...separated at birth?
Ladies and gentlemen, your 2008 Chicago Cubs starting outfield: Soriano-Pie-Fukudome. Let it be.
And now "Baker Street" by Jerry Rafferty.
Awww, man...another teaser.
Ladies and gentlemen, your 2008 Chicago Cubs starting outfield: Soriano-Pie-Fukudome. Let it be.
Must be spring training for the radio stations too
something doesn't seem quite right
Lou Brown: "My kinda team, Charlie, my kinda team..."
Yeah, waitaminute...
...where the hell is the game?
Ladies and gentlemen, your 2008 Chicago Cubs starting outfield: Soriano-Pie-Fukudome. Let it be.
nope. not me.
that was another guy who hangs out at Wrigley a lot.
Lou Brown: "My kinda team, Charlie, my kinda team..."
ahh, alright
I didn't go to the game, but one of my friends did, and he's got a picture where's he's holding the 752 ball with a guy wearing a ballhawk.net t-shirt. Thought it might have been you.
Did anybody catch that call-in phone number?
I'll buy an Old Style for first person to call in and ask "where the hell is the \ Cubs game?"
Lou Brown: "My kinda team, Charlie, my kinda team..."
This sucks...
...looks like Gameday only today.
Ladies and gentlemen, your 2008 Chicago Cubs starting outfield: Soriano-Pie-Fukudome. Let it be.
Boo MLB Radio/Gameday
I can't get either to work. Can someone provide updates, please? Also, I think I want to refinance my house.
I've told you a million times never to exaggerate!!
If I wanted to hear someone...
...tell me not to take out a payday loan, I'd call my Mom.
Ladies and gentlemen, your 2008 Chicago Cubs starting outfield: Soriano-Pie-Fukudome. Let it be.
gameday
i just tried to reload mine and I got a woman telling me something about the program not being available
Yeah, my audio has gone dead.
Ladies and gentlemen, your 2008 Chicago Cubs starting outfield: Soriano-Pie-Fukudome. Let it be.
MLB.com took it off...
and not in the good way. It's not even offered anymore, they killed the link. Oh well, at least Gameday is free. Er, wait.
I've told you a million times never to exaggerate!!
I think the radio stations...
are refusing to broadcast the game unless they get their $85 "meal money stipend" for all the technicians and guys who operate the equipment.
As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.
by santoswoodenlegs on Mar 19, 2008 2:18 PM CDT up reply actions
Greedy bastards.
Ladies and gentlemen, your 2008 Chicago Cubs starting outfield: Soriano-Pie-Fukudome. Let it be.
Dempster...
1st inning
K's Buck on 3 pitches
Suzuki 1st pitch flyball to RF
Barton 1st pitch goundball to 2nd
5 pitches. Nice.
As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.
by santoswoodenlegs on Mar 19, 2008 2:16 PM CDT reply actions
don't get too excited
IIRC from previous game day threads, someone said that the GameDay program doesn't register actual pitch counts, they just go with the minimum, at least for Spring Training. In other words, every K is going to be on 3 pitches, every walk on 4, and every ball in play will be on the first pitch.
Lou Brown: "My kinda team, Charlie, my kinda team..."
That is nice, but remember what happened the last time he pitched.
Ladies and gentlemen, your 2008 Chicago Cubs starting outfield: Soriano-Pie-Fukudome. Let it be.
It appears Dempster
wants a job. Two more Ks to start the second inning
Why does everybody stand up and sing "Take Me Out to the Ballgame" when they're already there? ~Larry Anderson
My Gameday isn't working right either...
...it doesn't show the complete results for the bottom of the 1st. Apparently, Theriot singled and then the stadium passed through a wormhole and came out during the top of the 2nd. Good news is, Dempster is totally pwning.
Ladies and gentlemen, your 2008 Chicago Cubs starting outfield: Soriano-Pie-Fukudome. Let it be.
Soriano flied out to left
and D-Lee GIDPee
Why does everybody stand up and sing "Take Me Out to the Ballgame" when they're already there? ~Larry Anderson
Weird, I see that part is missing now
I swear, that's what it said a few minutes ago
Why does everybody stand up and sing "Take Me Out to the Ballgame" when they're already there? ~Larry Anderson
Gameday...
is spastically delicious today.
As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.
by santoswoodenlegs on Mar 19, 2008 2:37 PM CDT reply actions
Gameday
has stunk it up on and off all spring. I won't be too happy if this is how it goes all season.
Geovany Soto you're my Hero
by love the ivy on Mar 19, 2008 2:38 PM CDT up reply actions
Gameday to going haywire
I saw that A-Ram singled to lead off the second, then Dome and DeRosa both flied out. Not sure what -- wait a minute there it is. A-Ram thrown out at home on a Hank White single to right.
Why does everybody stand up and sing "Take Me Out to the Ballgame" when they're already there? ~Larry Anderson
Just noticed this myself.
Aramis trying to score from first on a single?! Are we in the Twilight Zone?
Ladies and gentlemen, your 2008 Chicago Cubs starting outfield: Soriano-Pie-Fukudome. Let it be.
Yeah but it was a Henry Blanco single which means
it could have been a moon shot that rattled around in the corner for awhile
Why does everybody stand up and sing "Take Me Out to the Ballgame" when they're already there? ~Larry Anderson
anybody see that wood is out with back spasms?
by dogcatratcheese on Mar 19, 2008 2:39 PM CDT reply actions
See above.
Ladies and gentlemen, your 2008 Chicago Cubs starting outfield: Soriano-Pie-Fukudome. Let it be.
I missed that!
But did you know we may try to get Brian Roberts via trade to play 2nd base and lead off us?
As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.
by santoswoodenlegs on Mar 19, 2008 2:42 PM CDT up reply actions
i just got back from work, and looked through the diary
and missed the comments about it, but i'm really sorry. i mean, it sucks that you had to read a totally irresponsible comment by me, god, i'm always doing that. again, really, really sorry. and that's pretty exciting about brian roberts, he's pretty good right?
by dogcatratcheese on Mar 19, 2008 2:47 PM CDT up reply actions
Actually no...
he gets on base too much and if we get him it would make DeRosa angry, and seeing as how DeRosa is the heart of this team, that in turn would cause everyone to be very, very sad and the entire team would suffer because it's hard to see a pitch to hit or get the signs from your catcher with tears in your eyes. Pray we do not get him, unless you want to finish with a record of 24-138.
As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.
by santoswoodenlegs on Mar 19, 2008 2:53 PM CDT up reply actions
i'll put it on my prayer list
right next to "god bless grandma and grandpa"
by dogcatratcheese on Mar 19, 2008 2:55 PM CDT up reply actions
It's on mine...
right after "God bless Anna Nicole"
As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.
by santoswoodenlegs on Mar 19, 2008 2:56 PM CDT up reply actions
Only with people...
who are in a position of authority...like my wife.
As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.
by santoswoodenlegs on Mar 19, 2008 2:57 PM CDT up reply actions
I think he is.
I really do. That doesn't mean I won't cheer for Roberts if he's brought in, but I don't see 2b as our hole, and I don't see putting DeRosa on the bench as a good thing.
2008: The year we put it all together.
by drewishdrewid on Mar 19, 2008 4:05 PM CDT up reply actions
Dempster got out of the inning
Given up one hit through 3 IP
Why does everybody stand up and sing "Take Me Out to the Ballgame" when they're already there? ~Larry Anderson
totally off topic
from looking at the wrigley webcam it looks like the tarp is going to be in front of the bullpen box seats down the first base line. not really a lot of space there. Just more than on the other side I suppose.
---formerly known on BCB, WCG, and BAB simply as mike.
AC 00 00 00 - Believe
Anyone got Al's cell phone number?
No radio. Gameday gone AWOL. There's only one thing left to do...
Why does everybody stand up and sing "Take Me Out to the Ballgame" when they're already there? ~Larry Anderson
Crikey...
...two more Ks for Demp in top of the fourth -- five total.
Ladies and gentlemen, your 2008 Chicago Cubs starting outfield: Soriano-Pie-Fukudome. Let it be.
Cor blimey!
Why does everybody stand up and sing "Take Me Out to the Ballgame" when they're already there? ~Larry Anderson
Looks like the A's pitcher
is doing nearly as well.
Why does everybody stand up and sing "Take Me Out to the Ballgame" when they're already there? ~Larry Anderson
WTF?
My Gameday just reverted back to the second inning! Anyone else having this problem?
Ladies and gentlemen, your 2008 Chicago Cubs starting outfield: Soriano-Pie-Fukudome. Let it be.
This guy says he's sorry for the inconvenience.
As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.
by santoswoodenlegs on Mar 19, 2008 3:01 PM CDT up reply actions
Is that Dome's kid brother?
Ladies and gentlemen, your 2008 Chicago Cubs starting outfield: Soriano-Pie-Fukudome. Let it be.
Nope...
He's a superhero.
As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.
by santoswoodenlegs on Mar 19, 2008 3:08 PM CDT up reply actions
You're hilarious...
...keep it coming...
I've told you a million times never to exaggerate!!
Bottom of the third, here
why not try the MLB WAP scores page. It's just as slow, but it doesn't self-erase.
http://wap.mlb.com/scores/plays.jsp?gid=2008_03_19_oakmlb_chnmlb_1&c_id=mlb&i=4
Why does everybody stand up and sing "Take Me Out to the Ballgame" when they're already there? ~Larry Anderson
Thanks! I was just trying to find this.
Ladies and gentlemen, your 2008 Chicago Cubs starting outfield: Soriano-Pie-Fukudome. Let it be.
Is DLee
going to the plate with a blindfold on? I can't think of any other explanation for his extended struggles this ST. And yes, I know ST is meaningless, but it can't be this meaningless.
Thats
why Ichiro has like one hit this spring, and Frank Thomas has no hits this spring. Lee isn't the only good hitter struggling in spring, he will be fine once the season starts.
re: Thats
Yeah, I refuse to get seriously worried about a veteran like DLee not hitting during spring training. He had a couple/few good knocks over the weekend, too.
Ladies and gentlemen, your 2008 Chicago Cubs starting outfield: Soriano-Pie-Fukudome. Let it be.
Ichiro was hitless for something like 21, 22 at bats earlier this spring
He finally got a hit a few days ago to break out of that slump. I read where when he got on base, he called time and asked for the ball.
Crack me up...
Lou Brown: "My kinda team, Charlie, my kinda team..."
He'll work
it out, happens to the best of 'em.......Willie Mays started the (someone help, I have CRS syndrome - can't remember sh*t - ) '65 season 0 for forever and was told that Frank Howard just got glasses. Willie sez "He ain't hittin' either".....
by crazymountain on Mar 19, 2008 6:50 PM CDT up reply actions
Demp just finished...
...the top of the fifth with two FOs and yet another K. Maybe Lou should keep this whole rotation spot competition going throughout the regular season...
Ladies and gentlemen, your 2008 Chicago Cubs starting outfield: Soriano-Pie-Fukudome. Let it be.
It would seem...
that the way Dempster and Marquis have the good start/bad start thing going....maybe we keep them both as the platooned 5th starter! Yeah...that's the ticket! They both will be ready to pitch oh the same day, and which ever one of them starts you hope for the "good start" day, but if it turns out to the the "bad start day" you just yank him and put the other guy in! Or Lou could just use the "every 10th day" plan and alternate starts between them!
As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.
by santoswoodenlegs on Mar 19, 2008 3:15 PM CDT up reply actions
wow
Dempster really wants to be in the rotation apparently..
Live is boring until March 31st strolls by..
Good Thing
I didn't draft Ichiro, Dlee and the big hurt in my ST fantasy draft. Regretting not making the ARod-Hoffpauir trade now...
"I got a PBS mind in an MTV world"...Jimmy Buffett
by The Ryno and I Know on Mar 19, 2008 3:14 PM CDT reply actions
I think
I think whoever drafted those people and are smart enough not to worry about spring training stats will be happier than you.
We are all waiting for that glorious October night when we finally win it all. Until then we will continue to cheer, never do the wave and hope.
by puckishcubsfan on Mar 19, 2008 3:16 PM CDT up reply actions
Sarcasm :)
"I got a PBS mind in an MTV world"...Jimmy Buffett
by The Ryno and I Know on Mar 19, 2008 3:21 PM CDT up reply actions
I hope its Dempster
I really hope we don't let Marquis ST fool us, you know by June or July he is going to be useless. Also if anything goes wrong he will cry like a baby.
Lets do it Cubbies
Pitchers' duel
Our starting lineup can't seem to hit Joe Blanton. How close to an opening day lineup is the roster the A's put up today against Dempster?
Why does everybody stand up and sing "Take Me Out to the Ballgame" when they're already there? ~Larry Anderson
The A's probably aren't a good representation
of an actual major league roster.
"Prince Fielder Dies Of Inside-The-Park Homerun" - The Onion
In general?
Or just the lineup they put out today?
Why does everybody stand up and sing "Take Me Out to the Ballgame" when they're already there? ~Larry Anderson
For some reason, this made me laugh:
B:0 S:3 O:1 - Kosuke Fukudome strikes out swinging.
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B:0 S:3 O:2 - Mark DeRosa strikes out swinging, catcher Kurt Suzuki to first baseman Daric Barton.
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B:0 S:3 O:3 - Henry Blanco strikes out swinging.
Ladies and gentlemen, your 2008 Chicago Cubs starting outfield: Soriano-Pie-Fukudome. Let it be.
I think it was the textual symmetry
that was the object of his amusement.
Why does everybody stand up and sing "Take Me Out to the Ballgame" when they're already there? ~Larry Anderson
Yeah, textual symmetry never fails to give me a chuckle...
...but I find the kopious Ks in this game rather amusing, too.
Ladies and gentlemen, your 2008 Chicago Cubs starting outfield: Soriano-Pie-Fukudome. Let it be.
Well it was the object
of my amusement. Seemingly prosaic Gameday descriptions can be like iambic pentameter sometimes.
Why does everybody stand up and sing "Take Me Out to the Ballgame" when they're already there? ~Larry Anderson
DOME!!!!
Kurt Suzuki out at home on the throw, right fielder Kosuke Fukudome to catcher Henry Blanco. FOR THE THIRD OUT!!!
Ladies and gentlemen, your 2008 Chicago Cubs starting outfield: Soriano-Pie-Fukudome. Let it be.
Did they switch games on us?
B:0 S:0 O:1 - Felix Pie grounds out to first baseman Sean Doolittle.
B:0 S:0 O:2 - Tony ThomasJr. grounds out, third baseman Eduardo Cornejo to first baseman Sean Doolittle.
Who is Tony Thomas Jr.????
Minor league
2nd base prospect. Looks like he is DHing today. Maybe they grabbed some guys out the minor league camp to complete the split squad.
by Damen Jackson on Mar 19, 2008 3:26 PM CDT up reply actions
Stud for FSU last year
All-American. Skinny guy, with college level top speed and OBP. Didn't make a real impact until last year. Maybe our next leadoff hitter/2B? :)
"I got a PBS mind in an MTV world"...Jimmy Buffett
by The Ryno and I Know on Mar 19, 2008 3:27 PM CDT up reply actions
Gahd, there ya go again...
...reigniting the Tony Thomas Jr. rumors that we're all so sick and tired of hearing about.
Ladies and gentlemen, your 2008 Chicago Cubs starting outfield: Soriano-Pie-Fukudome. Let it be.
I'm just saying, Colvin and Gallagher for TTJ is a STEAL!
This deal would totally happen in Bizarro Sienfeld world. SWL, can you nail it with a Fargas pic?
"I got a PBS mind in an MTV world"...Jimmy Buffett
by The Ryno and I Know on Mar 19, 2008 3:31 PM CDT up reply actions
He is a minor leaguer...
Was the first Seminole picked in the 2007 Draft as Thomas was taken with the third pick in the third round (97th overall) by the Chicago Cubs.
Looks like he did well in Boise....His Minor League Page
As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.
by santoswoodenlegs on Mar 19, 2008 3:29 PM CDT up reply actions
No score through 6
Although of course, there is a score: it's 0-0.
Why does everybody stand up and sing "Take Me Out to the Ballgame" when they're already there? ~Larry Anderson
Theriot gotta a triple, though!
Ladies and gentlemen, your 2008 Chicago Cubs starting outfield: Soriano-Pie-Fukudome. Let it be.
Somebody wake up the O's scouts...
...Gallagher is pitching.
Ladies and gentlemen, your 2008 Chicago Cubs starting outfield: Soriano-Pie-Fukudome. Let it be.
Dempster's line
0 runs on 1 hit in 5 1/3 IP 7Ks 1BB
(unless I missed something)
Why does everybody stand up and sing "Take Me Out to the Ballgame" when they're already there? ~Larry Anderson
2 BB
Thought not always reliable, according to MLB.com, he walked 2
No that's correct
I messed up. Dempster didn't, though.
Why does everybody stand up and sing "Take Me Out to the Ballgame" when they're already there? ~Larry Anderson
walrond
seems to have become a stud in the last two days. two strike outs to get out of a bases loaded one out jam produced by Gallagher
Looks like Les Walrond
cleaned up Sean Gallagher's mess.
Why does everybody stand up and sing "Take Me Out to the Ballgame" when they're already there? ~Larry Anderson
MLB Gameday - Sinking to New Low
The never-very-reliable Gameday is unutterably bad today. In the last ten minutes, it has told me it is the 2nd, 6th, 3rd and 5th inning. Is it correct that it is the bottom of the 7th, 0-0?
AlaskaFan
"Year after year after year after year . . . . . after year after year after year . . ." - Steve Goodman, "Dying Cub Fan's Last Request"
As far as anyone not in Mesa knows
yes it's the bottom of the 7th, 0-0
Why does everybody stand up and sing "Take Me Out to the Ballgame" when they're already there? ~Larry Anderson
re: MLB Gameday - Sinking to New Low
As Al is wont to point out, we're not really supposed to be accessing Gameday right now anyway. MLB is running it only, if I understand correctly, for data-gathering purposes. It's usually very slow during spring training, though still generally accurate. Today has been a particularly bad day, though.
Ladies and gentlemen, your 2008 Chicago Cubs starting outfield: Soriano-Pie-Fukudome. Let it be.
This game is endlessly amusing.
Gallagher comes in, walks two batters, manages to get an out, then walks another batter and has to be bailed out by Les freakin' Walrond, who Ks two straight batters.
Sean Gallagher to Cubs brass: I WILL NOT GO QUIETLY!!!
Ladies and gentlemen, your 2008 Chicago Cubs starting outfield: Soriano-Pie-Fukudome. Let it be.
Maybe the O's scouts will recommend
getting Walrond, instead of Gallagher, for Tony Thomas Jr.
Why does everybody stand up and sing "Take Me Out to the Ballgame" when they're already there? ~Larry Anderson
Gameday - Additional Excreta
It reports Joe Blanton, a fine pitcher I am sure, has retired 20 Cubbies on 30 pitches. With 5 Ks. Sigh.
Can we pool our pennies and buy Al an iPhone so he can post updates here?
AlaskaFan
"Year after year after year after year . . . . . after year after year after year . . ." - Steve Goodman, "Dying Cub Fan's Last Request"
I'd volunteer...
To be fully funded by BCB and attend the games solely to keep this board updated.
Let me know when I should pack my bags!
It's been established that the pitch counts
are not accurate. And I've already offered to call or text Al long distance for live updates, but for some reason he hasn't published his cell number....
Why does everybody stand up and sing "Take Me Out to the Ballgame" when they're already there? ~Larry Anderson
D-Lee1
Home run!! 1-0 Cubs
Why does everybody stand up and sing "Take Me Out to the Ballgame" when they're already there? ~Larry Anderson
'bout time
Ichiro 0-21 or no Ichiro 0-21
Why does everybody stand up and sing "Take Me Out to the Ballgame" when they're already there? ~Larry Anderson
Ramirez BB...
Blanco double him in...2-0 cubs end of the 7th...
Bottom Half
B:0 S:0 O:0 - Cliff Pennington remains in the game as the designated hitter.
B:0 S:0 O:0 - Pitcher Change: Andrew Brown replaces Joe Blanton.
B:1 S:1 O:0 - Derrek Lee homers (1) on a fly ball to right field.
B:4 S:0 O:0 - Aramis Ramirez walks.
B:0 S:3 O:1 - Kosuke Fukudome strikes out swinging.
B:0 S:3 O:2 - Mark DeRosa called out on strikes.
B:0 S:0 O:2 - Henry Blanco doubles (1) on a fly ball to center fielder Archie Gilbert. Aramis Ramirez scores.
B:0 S:3 O:3 - Felix Pie strikes out swinging.
As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.
by santoswoodenlegs on Mar 19, 2008 3:59 PM CDT reply actions
2-0 Cubs...
Rami walk, lanco double.
Anyone concerned at all with the amount of K's for Dome?
Damn Nutrisystem...I'm freakin dyin for some Italian beef!
Yes...
I think he should replace all of them with the letter Q...
Qusoqe Fuqudome!
As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.
by santoswoodenlegs on Mar 19, 2008 4:01 PM CDT up reply actions
Ooooo
I like that Santo. Is there any out on the books though represented by a Q?
Damn Nutrisystem...I'm freakin dyin for some Italian beef!
by Kinky Reggae on Mar 19, 2008 4:02 PM CDT up reply actions
LOL, yeah or...
...seeing as how he's Mr. OBP, maybe replace them with "BB".
BBusoBBe FuBBudome!
Ladies and gentlemen, your 2008 Chicago Cubs starting outfield: Soriano-Pie-Fukudome. Let it be.
Or
HBP
HBPsuke FuHBPudome
Damn Nutrisystem...I'm freakin dyin for some Italian beef!
by Kinky Reggae on Mar 19, 2008 4:03 PM CDT up reply actions
You guys know I love Kerry
You guys all know I love Kerry but I almost was expecting something to happen. I think it's probably going to be okay despite the fervent hopes of the Score that his career is over but I almost am not surprised.
We are all waiting for that glorious October night when we finally win it all. Until then we will continue to cheer, never do the wave and hope.
If you love him so much, why don't you marry him?
Ladies and gentlemen, your 2008 Chicago Cubs starting outfield: Soriano-Pie-Fukudome. Let it be.
What are you foreignhere?
She IS Kerry's other wife! Get a clue man! :)
Damn Nutrisystem...I'm freakin dyin for some Italian beef!
by Kinky Reggae on Mar 19, 2008 4:04 PM CDT up reply actions
Ha ha, that's what I was getting at.
Ladies and gentlemen, your 2008 Chicago Cubs starting outfield: Soriano-Pie-Fukudome. Let it be.
I know...
we all know her true identity.
Damn Nutrisystem...I'm freakin dyin for some Italian beef!
by Kinky Reggae on Mar 19, 2008 4:06 PM CDT up reply actions
string hijacking
hey reggae, how's nutrisystem working out?
by cubsonWGN4ever on Mar 19, 2008 4:12 PM CDT up reply actions
I'm almost afraid to ask...
but what did the Score say?
by Damen Jackson on Mar 19, 2008 4:04 PM CDT up reply actions
Kevin Hart coming in...
by the way...this would be Hart's 2nd apperance in a row, sorry cubstoseriesby100 but he may be the surprise dark-horse candidate for the closer's role. Did I mention that his power-curve is wicked sexxy?
As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.
by santoswoodenlegs on Mar 19, 2008 4:08 PM CDT reply actions
re: Kevin Hart coming in...
After hearing about Kerry's sore back, I had this very same thought.
Ladies and gentlemen, your 2008 Chicago Cubs starting outfield: Soriano-Pie-Fukudome. Let it be.
Sometime this week
We'll find out how Kevin Hart did in the eighth inning.
Why does everybody stand up and sing "Take Me Out to the Ballgame" when they're already there? ~Larry Anderson
It just updated. And you don't wanna know.
Ladies and gentlemen, your 2008 Chicago Cubs starting outfield: Soriano-Pie-Fukudome. Let it be.
Sorry for the jinx!
Why does everybody stand up and sing "Take Me Out to the Ballgame" when they're already there? ~Larry Anderson
It's Ugly
Inning 8
Top Half
B:0 S:0 O:0 - Pitcher Change: Kevin Hart replaces Les Walrond.
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B:0 S:0 O:0 - Danny Putnam doubles (1) on a fly ball to left fielder Alfonso Soriano.
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B:0 S:0 O:0 - Justin Knoedler singles on a ground ball to right fielder Kosuke Fukudome. Danny Putnam to 3rd.
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B:0 S:0 O:1 - Sean Doolittle reaches on a fielder's choice out, first baseman Derrek Lee to catcher Henry Blanco to third baseman Aramis Ramirez. Danny Putnam out at home. Justin Knoedler to 2nd.
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B:4 S:0 O:1 - Cliff Pennington walks. Justin Knoedler to 3rd. Sean Doolittle to 2nd.
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B:4 S:0 O:1 - Eduardo Cornejo walks. Justin Knoedler scores. Sean Doolittle to 3rd. Cliff Pennington to 2nd.
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B:0 S:0 O:1 - Pitcher Change: Carlos Marmol replaces Kevin Hart.
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B:4 S:0 O:1 - Archie Gilbert walks. Sean Doolittle scores. Cliff Pennington to 3rd. Eduardo Cornejo to 2nd.
and...uglier
B:0 S:0 O:1 - Corey Brown singles on a ground ball to right fielder Kosuke Fukudome. Cliff Pennington scores. Eduardo Cornejo to 3rd. Archie Gilbert to 2nd.
B:0 S:0 O:2 - Brooks Conrad grounds into a force out, first baseman Derrek Lee to shortstop Ryan Theriot. Eduardo Cornejo scores. Archie Gilbert to 3rd. Corey Brown out at 2nd. Brooks Conrad to 1st.
B:0 S:0 O:3 - Gregorio Petit pops out to first baseman Derrek Lee in foul territory.
Bottom Half
B:0 S:0 O:0 - Pitcher Change: Lenny DiNardo replaces Andrew Brown.
B:0 S:0 O:1 - Tony ThomasJr. pops out to third baseman Eduardo Cornejo.
B:0 S:0 O:2 - Ryan Theriot grounds out, third baseman Eduardo Cornejo to first baseman Sean Doolittle.
B:0 S:0 O:3 - Alfonso Soriano flies out to right fielder Danny Putnam.
As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.
by santoswoodenlegs on Mar 19, 2008 4:27 PM CDT up reply actions
And magically, its 4-2 in the top of the 9th
Why does everybody stand up and sing "Take Me Out to the Ballgame" when they're already there? ~Larry Anderson
Black Magic!!!
As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.
by santoswoodenlegs on Mar 19, 2008 4:28 PM CDT up reply actions
I'm starting to be thankful...
...that Gameday Audio didn't work today.
Ladies and gentlemen, your 2008 Chicago Cubs starting outfield: Soriano-Pie-Fukudome. Let it be.
This just in -
Gameday's updates were badly beaten today by an arthritic snail. The snail, 87 years old, seemed unsurprised by the news.
MLB declined to comment on a proposal to rename "Gameday" as "LameDay"
AlaskaFan
"Year after year after year after year . . . . . after year after year after year . . ." - Steve Goodman, "Dying Cub Fan's Last Request"
I have heard of this snail.
For those not familiar, you may remember him from his previous work. Namely the wonderful thing known as the Cubs virtual waiting room.
Geovany Soto you're my Hero
by love the ivy on Mar 19, 2008 4:33 PM CDT up reply actions
Good Lord!
What happened?!? I go get in the shower with a 0-0 game and come back to a 4-2 game? Thankfully, it's only spring training. Yes, that makes it better, only spring training.....
Geovany Soto you're my Hero
Shower terror huh?
As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.
by santoswoodenlegs on Mar 19, 2008 4:32 PM CDT up reply actions
The top of the 9th went a little better...
Top Half
B:4 S:0 O:0 - Danny Putnam walks.
B:0 S:0 O:1 - Justin Knoedler grounds out, second baseman Mark DeRosa to first baseman Derrek Lee. Danny Putnam to 2nd.
B:0 S:0 O:1 - Sean Doolittle singles on a ground ball to right fielder Kosuke Fukudome. Danny Putnam scores. Sean Doolittle advances to 2nd, on throwing error by right fielder Kosuke Fukudome.
B:0 S:0 O:2 - Cliff Pennington pops out to shortstop Ryan Theriot.
B:0 S:0 O:3 - Eduardo Cornejo lines out to center fielder Felix Pie.
Bottom Half
As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.
by santoswoodenlegs on Mar 19, 2008 4:35 PM CDT reply actions
dare I say it...
Maybe Ronny Cedeno should pinch hit or something...
2008: The year we put it all together.
by drewishdrewid on Mar 19, 2008 4:37 PM CDT up reply actions
Yes, put us out of our misery.
Ladies and gentlemen, your 2008 Chicago Cubs starting outfield: Soriano-Pie-Fukudome. Let it be.
Well, the great Lenny DiNardo is on the mound
Hang on, would his full name be "Leonardo DiNardo"?
Why does everybody stand up and sing "Take Me Out to the Ballgame" when they're already there? ~Larry Anderson
what's happening...
Dare we hope an extended silence form Lameday is good news? Naw.
AlaskaFan
"Year after year after year after year . . . . . after year after year after year . . ." - Steve Goodman, "Dying Cub Fan's Last Request"
Maybe not knowing
is better than knowing exactly how this one pans out. 5-2 now
Geovany Soto you're my Hero
The longer the bottom of the 9th takes...
the chances of good things happening only increase.
As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.
by santoswoodenlegs on Mar 19, 2008 4:47 PM CDT reply actions
Confucious?
Ladies and gentlemen, your 2008 Chicago Cubs starting outfield: Soriano-Pie-Fukudome. Let it be.
And it is done according to
yahoo 5-2.
7 hits for each team, 1 error for the Cubs
Geovany Soto you're my Hero
Hank White's up
with one on, one out.
Why does everybody stand up and sing "Take Me Out to the Ballgame" when they're already there? ~Larry Anderson
yahoo says final
http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/boxscore/
"I got a PBS mind in an MTV world"...Jimmy Buffett
by The Ryno and I Know on Mar 19, 2008 4:51 PM CDT reply actions
Gameday just caught up
bases loaded, Pie flies out for the third out.
2008: The year we put it all together.
this one's not on TV either, tho...
so, what do we take good out of this one:
1) Demp was on.
2) Fukudome still has the arm and is working on the aim
3) ...
4) Profit!
2008: The year we put it all together.
by drewishdrewid on Mar 19, 2008 4:53 PM CDT up reply actions
that seems to be
about it. and I figured out that I get a lot more out of watching or listening to a game than tracking it by stats and reading. Is the second game on the radio though? Even that would be better than LameDay.
Geovany Soto you're my Hero
by love the ivy on Mar 19, 2008 4:55 PM CDT up reply actions
What was Dempsters line?
anyone please?
"We're going to turn this team around 360 degrees." -Jason Kidd
Looks like this...
5.1 IP
1 H
1 R
0 ER
2 BB
7 K
0 HR
4.50 ERA
As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.
by santoswoodenlegs on Mar 19, 2008 5:02 PM CDT reply actions
I Thought Dempster Did Not Give Up Any Runs?!?
Jacque Jones is gone, and I doubt Ivan DeJesus would mind this!
I agree
he was out in the 5th, and the As didn't score till the 7th.
2008: The year we put it all together.
by drewishdrewid on Mar 19, 2008 5:12 PM CDT up reply actions
My mistake...
He didn't allow any runs.
As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.
by santoswoodenlegs on Mar 19, 2008 5:20 PM CDT reply actions
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