OUT of Town Shirts

by Les Lancaster on Mar 2, 2008 10:05 AM CST

hello friends of bcb and mr. yellon:

The shirts are out, I am currently workin with usps to get an update as to what is going on, I will keep you all posted and even try and get tracking numbers to you all as soon as monday. Please know that this mishap is not azweber's mistake it is mine and for that I am truly sorry I understand how upset all of you are I will get this figured out but I am working on this as we speak.

thanks
les

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by Al Yellon on Mar 2, 2008 10:49 AM CST reply actions

Glad to year from you Les

Since no one could reach you, azweber was taking all the heat.

If things are too overwhelming, please just send them to one of us and we will be happy to distribute them.

by coral on Mar 2, 2008 1:15 PM CST reply actions

Thanks for the post Les!

We all appreciate it.

MMMMM...Nutrisystem!

by Kinky Reggae on Mar 2, 2008 2:08 PM CST reply actions

Any new updates?

Did he just say funky butt-loving?

by Louie on Mar 3, 2008 8:10 AM CST reply actions

18 days since being mailed.

Uh, there is no mail service option that can take 18 days to arrive.

No one has received a shirt yet, no matter where they live. 18 days!!??

It does not add up. Would love to see a tracking #, but don't believe I ever will.

Good Guys Wear Blue

by Cubskingdom on Mar 3, 2008 11:24 AM CST up reply actions

What happens is every

2 weeks or so he will apologize and then have another buffer of about 2 weeks.

"Hey.....Cubs win!!!" ---Harry "I strongly dislike Steve Stone." ---Hammer

by Hammer on Mar 3, 2008 11:42 AM CST up reply actions

My guess is

a call to the number I provided would be helpful in motivating Chad today. I believe him when he said he would take care of this but we can all use a little motivation!

MMMMM...Nutrisystem!

by Kinky Reggae on Mar 3, 2008 10:38 AM CST reply actions

Are you walking these shirts to Chicago?

As part of some JDRS fundraiser?

"Hey.....Cubs win!!!" ---Harry "I strongly dislike Steve Stone." ---Hammer

by Hammer on Mar 3, 2008 11:29 AM CST reply actions

I mean really...

come on!

Did he just say funky butt-loving?

by Louie on Mar 3, 2008 11:50 AM CST reply actions

These pins and needles

are really starting to hurt my ass...

Did he just say funky butt-loving?

by Louie on Mar 3, 2008 2:24 PM CST reply actions

I'm not sure what else to say except

I have to let Chad deal with this for today.

MMMMM...Nutrisystem!

by Kinky Reggae on Mar 3, 2008 2:38 PM CST reply actions

It is 7:10 pm, and I don't see him dealing with it

He will not answer the phone or return calls. He will not respond to e-mails.

He has not provided one tracking #, even though he was working on it "as we speak" last night.

Nothing has come in the mail, nothing has been returned in the mail to him, and no matter what state anyone lives in, no one has any mail to show for it.

I am not going to drag on with this for two more weeks.

If there is not some new information provided tonight, I willl demand my refund in the morning.

Good Guys Wear Blue

by Cubskingdom on Mar 3, 2008 6:14 PM CST up reply actions

This is kind of annoying...

ultimately if it gets you to stop complaining on a regularly scheduled basis then I will send you your refund and if/when the shirts do arrive, then I will expect the shirt back.

Sory but you yourself have been a full time job for me on top of trying to keep tabs on Chad.

I am so sick of this whole thing. And before you get mad at me for my response, keep in mind that for all your complaining, I have not only had to listen to it but arrange to order, receive, and get all MY shirts to the people who live here.

You go ahead and give me your address and I will get you a refund as soon as humanly possible.

MMMMM...Nutrisystem!

by Kinky Reggae on Mar 3, 2008 6:43 PM CST up reply actions

Perhaps...

Chad could just drive the shirts to Baltimore's ST complex and give the shirts to Brian Roberts. I bet we could get Brian to ship them out. Heck, he may even autograph them for you guys.

As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.

by santoswoodenlegs on Mar 3, 2008 6:20 PM CST reply actions

This is

getting quite ridiculous. How much would it cost to reprint the lost shirts?

Did he just say funky butt-loving?

by Louie on Mar 3, 2008 6:37 PM CST reply actions

Louie

I will see what I can do about your since you designed them. As for the rest, I wish I didn;t have to say this but I do not want to begin at the beginning.

Not sure what to say. This is why I have been hoping with all my heart that Chad perhaps was not straight up about when they were shipped and that the shirts are on the way.

This whole thing sucks freakin ass.

I may just send you my shirt that turned out to be a little small on me anyway. What size are you?

MMMMM...Nutrisystem!

by Kinky Reggae on Mar 3, 2008 6:45 PM CST up reply actions

It's allright

I'm just really annoyed at the whole situation.

Did he just say funky butt-loving?

by Louie on Mar 3, 2008 6:57 PM CST up reply actions

I hear ya

I am too. I spoke with Chad ten minutes ago and he told me his friend at USPS ought to know something tomorrow morning. I told him I hope so.

I will get you your shirt Louie. I hope everyone will get their shirts.

MMMMM...Nutrisystem!

by Kinky Reggae on Mar 3, 2008 7:08 PM CST up reply actions

"His friend at USPS"?

Excuse me, but bull-freakin-shit. You mail something out, you get a tracking # when you send it. You don't have to "ask a friend at USPS".

I think another email is called for.

Also, exactly where in Florida does Chad live? If there's anyone who lives nearby and would offer to pay him a visit, I think that would be called for at this time.

"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al Yellon on Mar 3, 2008 7:10 PM CST up reply actions

Outstanding stuff

Al, you've endured plenty of hostility on this blog before (including a little bit from me). Have you ever cursed on bcb before?

Why don't people just call Chad every 15 minutes or so. And if he doesn't answer, figure out which office at Franklin Templeton he works at (assuming he was telling the truth about working there) and start calling there first thing in the morning.

Fukudome is my homie

by Porfi on Mar 3, 2008 7:16 PM CST up reply actions

There are three

Franklin Templeton offices in Florida:
Fort Lauderdale, Miami and St. Petersburg. Chad live in any of those cities?

"Who are you going to believe, me or your own eyes?"

by Jettero2112 on Mar 3, 2008 8:20 PM CST up reply actions

Another thing...

If he sent these thru USPS using one of their services that gets you a tracking number he spent extra money to ship. As this continues to unfold it is doubtful that he spent the extra money. Also, these services are usually faster than regular mail. I doubt it would take 18 days or whatever it is up to now... Too bad, a bunch of people had a good idea and one person ruins it.

by LT on Mar 3, 2008 7:32 PM CST up reply actions

Well...

I live in Florida, and I have a lot of free time, and a lot of BCB brethren who have been forsaken.

Let me know what I can do.

"Oh, I get a little tired now and then, but knowing my lifestyle, that's only natural." -- Harry Caray

by Cribbs463 on Mar 3, 2008 8:24 PM CST up reply actions

Check through ...

... these diaries for Chad's phone number. Maybe you can give him a call and pay him a visit.

"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al Yellon on Mar 3, 2008 8:25 PM CST up reply actions

Here is Chad's number:

309-853-7414

Call often...

"Who are you going to believe, me or your own eyes?"

by Jettero2112 on Mar 3, 2008 8:28 PM CST up reply actions

number

This is an Illinois phone number....is he visiting in Florida, or does he live here?

"Oh, I get a little tired now and then, but knowing my lifestyle, that's only natural." -- Harry Caray

by Cribbs463 on Mar 4, 2008 6:23 AM CST up reply actions

It's an Illinois cell number.

He used to live in Kewanee, which is where the number is from. He now lives in Florida.

"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al Yellon on Mar 4, 2008 8:09 AM CST up reply actions

ok

I was gonna say I had a 309 area code for awhile and I have certainly never lived in florida.

AC 00 00 00 - BELIEVE

by mike @ Bleed Cubbie Blue on Mar 4, 2008 10:38 AM CST up reply actions

I live in Florida..

Tallahassee area to be specific. I didn't buy a shirt but if it's in the area then I will be more than happy to help out.

by ams05g on Mar 4, 2008 12:37 PM CST up reply actions

Actually....

Al, having lived within 30 minutes from Kewanee, 309-853-7414 is a Verizon land line, not a cell phone. So, unless he is forwarding his land line to FL, he's still in IL.

by talkingcubs on Mar 4, 2008 2:50 PM CST up reply actions

Actually

he could have ported his land line number to his cell phone. I did that when I moved from AL to TN so I could keep the same phone number that I had for over 20 years. You look up my cell numbers exchange and it says bellsouth landline....

by LT on Mar 4, 2008 3:50 PM CST up reply actions

Wow Al!

I got your email. I did speak to him and asked if perhaps he sent them later than he said he did. He said he sent them mid week after that Friday. He was the one who said it is still too long even for that date of shipment.

I will soon begin refunds Al. Except for cubskingdom who wants one tomorrow. I will take care of that end of things. Sorry to have to but oh well.

MMMMM...Nutrisystem!

by Kinky Reggae on Mar 3, 2008 7:39 PM CST reply actions

Thanks.

As you can tell by the email, I'm pissed, mostly that you and I trusted someone who clearly could not be trusted.

"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al Yellon on Mar 3, 2008 7:49 PM CST up reply actions

At this point...

I just wish Les could, I dunno, be truthful about the whole thing. Back on Dec. 19th, Adam said that Les had confirmed the mailing had begun. Then on January 6th, Les said the shirts would be in the mail this coming week. The on Feb. 13th, the shirts would definitely be out by the 15th (also personally confirmed by Les on the 14th). Now twice within the past few days, Les has said the shirts were mailed, but he has to work to get the tracking numbers?

Come on, something just doesn't add up here. The slowest USPS service is I believe parcel post, which takes about 7 days.

If the shirts were destroyed in a fire, eaten by a dog, used as wall insulation, well, we'd be upset, but I'd rather have the truth than to have no closure and the continued stringing along that we have now. It has now been almost 3 months after the shirts were supposedly going out.

by anvilcrawler on Mar 3, 2008 8:06 PM CST up reply actions

I agree Al

I appreciate you helping me a bit.

I am prepared to issue refunds though. I wish it could be the shirts (and maybe it will be someday since it will never make sense to me why someone would do this). I can say that I too have been pretty upset as of late.

MMMMM...Nutrisystem!

by Kinky Reggae on Mar 3, 2008 8:38 PM CST up reply actions

azweber9, it does not have to be done tomorrow

I can wait until you and Al pick a date when the 20 or so "out-of-towners" are deemed "lost" shirts.

As others have posted, I am just at the end of my rope and do not want to encourage, days of Les, asking his friend at USPS or whatever. I have no problem with you, or how you have handled things thus far.

Les answers none of the e mails or voice mails I have sent him. He never picks up the phone no matter what time I call, and his stories just don't add up at all.

If he had one tracking #, he could check the status on line in about 30 seconds, not a friend at USPS will have some news for me in the morning.

Just needed to mark a day that I would not listen to any more stories. That day for me will be tomorrow.

I attended the "Chasing October" Project 3000 fundraiser screening in AZ. last Spring Training, bought a dozen Project 3000 bracelets at The Cubs Convention.

Thought the shirts would be a great gesture as well. Just leaves a bad taste in my mouth with Les's actions.

Good Guys Wear Blue

by Cubskingdom on Mar 3, 2008 8:59 PM CST up reply actions

I can certainly appreciate this comment.

Please know I am as, if not more angry about the possibility of having been ripped off for 20 or so shirts.

I suppose, after talking with Chad tonight, that I will be comfortable in giving this until Friday and then I will begin to get MO's to send back. As I told Al, I still have the whole list of addresses for thr OOT shirts. Hopefully it won't take but a couple days from then, for me to have them and mail them. Whatever is left I will donate.

I am TRULY sorry we trusted Chad and it may have come to this, but I promise to begin that immediately if Friday doesn't see any shirts.

For Louie, I would like to get him one somehow since he designed them and has waited this long too.

Is this an acceptable plan?

MMMMM...Nutrisystem!

by Kinky Reggae on Mar 3, 2008 9:05 PM CST up reply actions

I'd like my shirt but if I can't have that

you can donate my share to P3K.

I wish there was something that could be done. Is there some way to get authorities involved? Is there an anti-fraud something or another in Florida that can be contacted. What about FBI? Fraud across interstate lines is a biggie. Maybe with just the threat of it or having a cop stop by and question him would be enough to get the shirts sent out. Have him ship them all to me and I can have them in the mail less than 48 after I get them.

"Who are you going to believe, me or your own eyes?"

by Jettero2112 on Mar 3, 2008 10:17 PM CST up reply actions

I appreciate that

but I plan to issue refunds beginning Friday and we will follow up otherwise.

MMMMM...Nutrisystem!

by Kinky Reggae on Mar 3, 2008 10:25 PM CST up reply actions

Chiming in...

...because what would one of these threads be without a post from me? :)

Guys, you've been scammed. Why is it so hard to see? This guy is claiming that he mailed your shirts two and a half weeks ago... TWO AND A HALF WEEKS AGO! Come on, wake up and smell the coffee. You're not getting the shirt you paid for.

by kanderber on Mar 3, 2008 8:27 PM CST reply actions

For once...

... you have posted in one of these diaries with an interesting comment. I think you may very well be right. We're checking into this.

"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al Yellon on Mar 3, 2008 8:41 PM CST up reply actions

But why?????

What would you do with 20 shirts with a(n albeit cool) logo and the name of a blog, and no money. I think the thing that most people don't get is that he doesn't have any of the money and never has. So whyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy (maybe if I type the letter "y" enough, I will get a suitable answer)?

Did he just say funky butt-loving?

by Louie on Mar 3, 2008 8:58 PM CST up reply actions

if we are asking why

why would anyone have a bunch of tshirts made, presumably in chicago, then ship some of the shirts to some guy in florida to then have that guy ship them out all over the country?

why would the guy in florida agree to front the money for shipping the shirts in the first place?

why does it seem that azweber9 is the only person that can ever get a hold of chad (aka les)? has anyone actually talked to chad on the phone during this whole ordeal?

if you look through the countless threads on this there are a lot of questions and not a lot of answers, or at least, not a lot that make sense.

lets hope that there is a happy ending in here somewhere.

"It ain't what you don't know that gets you into trouble. It's what you know for sure that just ain't so." -- Mark Twain

by circuitclout on Mar 3, 2008 9:20 PM CST up reply actions

The answer to your questions

is that we tried to do something good. I didn't want to shoulder the entire job myself, someone stepped up to volunteer, it was a person whom we thought we could trust, and apparently, we were wrong.

IIRC, there weren't that many people stepping up to take on some of this project.

This is why I chose to do the things that I have thus far.

MMMMM...Nutrisystem!

by Kinky Reggae on Mar 3, 2008 9:45 PM CST up reply actions

azweber, that's not really fair or true

i remember a lot of people volunteering various assistance at various times throughout this debacle. regardless, the whole BCB shirt venture was screwed from jump when you guys were "taking orders" by having people type how many shirts they wanted as a semi-anonymous comment to a diary.

orders shoulda been taken, and shipment arranged for, online. this is a blog for chrissakes; and it's the year 2008.

all that said, the entertainment provided by all these diaries and comments has been well worth $25.

I'm the guy in the blue under armour shirt

by joeschmitt on Mar 4, 2008 2:38 AM CST up reply actions

If by volunteering you mean

offering critical comments and unnecessary input then yes, MANY people stepped up.

Advice was not really what I needed, I was not prepared to take on this entire project myself and Chad stepped up and volunteered to take on the biggest part, in my opinion, which was the OOT shipping.

So I do believe it is fair to state that I went with a person who felt he could shoulder this part of the project.

I'm sorry you don't like the way it was done. Too bad you didn't volunteer to take this project on. I do not do this for a living and approached this the way I saw fit. We sorted out the orders, we got the money done, and I completed every part of this project that I took on as quickly as I could. I was patient with the money and ALL of the criticism. Just an FYI, over 300 shirts were "spoken for" in our first diary to assess how many people wanted shirts and we ended up with 60 shirts.

So, I believe I have endured more than MY share of criticism and perhaps you can understand why now, I am starting to get frustrated with all of this.

I know you all spent your money, so did I. I want to get this figured out because of this and I am trying to do this as quickly as possible.

MMMMM...Nutrisystem!

by Kinky Reggae on Mar 4, 2008 8:11 AM CST up reply actions

Unbelievable

. . . .that people now view Adam as fair game for criticism when he has only been trying to make sure that the people who ordered shirts get them. I am hugely grateful for all your work and am amazed at how much attention you have paid to this mess.

I ordered 3 shirts, one each for myself, my sister and my brother-in-law. Of course, what we really want is to finally see our BCB shirts, but if that doesn't happen don't worry about sending our refund -- just add the money to whatever is going to Project 3000.

Thanks, Adam.

Barb

by bjs on Mar 4, 2008 8:28 AM CST up reply actions

Thank you Barb

I know I am just repeating myself but I just want you all to get the shirts. However, I do not want to keep money that paid for nothing either.

Maybe what I will do is send the money back to everyone, donate the little from the shirts that I got to people, and then Al can set up a donation process where you all can donate.

It only seems fair that I send the money back.

You are nice to say what you said Barb.

MMMMM...Nutrisystem!

by Kinky Reggae on Mar 4, 2008 8:35 AM CST up reply actions

dude

Too bad you didn't volunteer to take this project on.

Actually, I did, in an email to you dated October 10, 2007. I did not think it contained "critical comments" or "unnecessary input". And a lot of other people were volunteering to help or even take over the process to bring it into the 21st century.

I appreciate your efforts but the martyr thing doesn't fly here.

I'm the guy in the blue under armour shirt

by joeschmitt on Mar 4, 2008 11:39 AM CST up reply actions

You're not worth responding to...

with your LATE offers to assist with all of this, once you decided you didn't like my approach to everything.

Point is, you were NOWHERE to be found when the project initially got started.

So you know what you can do with you martyr comments don't you?

For people like you, who I DO in fact remember trying to be helpful (after the fact) I am not as concerned about your inconvenience. Sorry if you think I am playing a martyr...

I saw myself as soing everything I could possibly do to help resolve this matter. Save me your "helpful" insight.

And as for litigating, I was responding to the poster who seemed to be suggesting that I could be in some legal trouble.

MMMMM...Nutrisystem!

by Kinky Reggae on Mar 4, 2008 3:42 PM CST up reply actions

well, FWIW

(and it's worth a little more than an avg. person's $.02 as I am a lawyer, although this is not legal advice), i strongly suggest that you do NOT worry yourself about potential legal problems.

I'm the guy in the blue under armour shirt

by joeschmitt on Mar 4, 2008 3:56 PM CST up reply actions

Well I certainly appreciate that.

Regardless, I will have everyones' money on the way back to them if Friday sees no shirts.

MMMMM...Nutrisystem!

by Kinky Reggae on Mar 4, 2008 3:59 PM CST up reply actions

just to clarify

you thought you could trust "chad" (aka les) enough to ship him around 20 shirts, which have a "value" of $25 each, and that he would front the money to ship the shirts and then you would pay him back because you didn't trust him to handle any of the money.

that's interesting

"It ain't what you don't know that gets you into trouble. It's what you know for sure that just ain't so." -- Mark Twain

by circuitclout on Mar 4, 2008 7:49 AM CST up reply actions

Yes 20 shirts, that did not cost 25$

20 shirts that cost less that that and I never forgot the fact that I did not know Chad.

Would you have sent him the money?

Why is this so confusing. I couldn't have him ship shirts he did not have. He agreed to ship out and then collect the money (when he presented a receipt nonetheless).

Look, I did this as organized as I could and this is what we got. I am glad I kept the money so I can now gove you refunds if the shirts don't come. It sucks but what could I have done differently? For the record, Al trusted him too. Does this make my mistake any more understandable?

MMMMM...Nutrisystem!

by Kinky Reggae on Mar 4, 2008 8:14 AM CST up reply actions

It does seem odd

that the shirts would be shipped first to Florida, only to have to be shipped again. Why would anyone set up a system where you have to pay for two shipping costs-if that in fact was the arrangement

And why would anyone (Les) agree to front the charges for shipping all those shirts with the hope of getting paid back by someone he doesn't know (a9)?

Something smells.....and it certainly appears to this outside observer (I sporadically come to this website) that azweber9 is not entirely the victim he paints himself as.

by gbs on Mar 4, 2008 6:41 PM CST up reply actions

GIVE ME A FUCKIN BREAK!

You people are startin to piss me the fuck off! I didn't WANT to shoulder the GD entire project. I had to have them shipped to one address here and one where they could be shipped to all OOTers.

KEEP YOUR FUCKIN INSIGHT TO YOURSELF! I am so fuckin sick of this shit! I wish this was one of you dealing with this shit so I could pile on my ignorant, obnoxious, self righteous BULLSHIT on your ass!

I wish I could apologize Al for my outburst but people like this are starting to really piss me OFF!

MMMMM...Nutrisystem!

by Kinky Reggae on Mar 4, 2008 6:46 PM CST up reply actions

hahaha

Someone didn't take his pills today.

by kanderber on Mar 4, 2008 7:16 PM CST up reply actions

KANDERBER

Why are you such an instigator?

"Hey.....Cubs win!!!" ---Harry "I strongly dislike Steve Stone." ---Hammer

by Hammer on Mar 4, 2008 8:23 PM CST up reply actions

Yeah as always, your an asshole.

Par for the course with you though.

MMMMM...Nutrisystem!

by Kinky Reggae on Mar 4, 2008 9:54 PM CST up reply actions

cmon guy

just don't reply if you don't like the "insight"

I'm the guy in the blue under armour shirt

by joeschmitt on Mar 4, 2008 7:30 PM CST up reply actions

BS. He has the right to reply

because he has to deal with a bunch of knuckleheads who don't have a grip on reality or have had to deal with all the crap he has. He's doing a most excellent job trying to get us our shirts and he doesn't need a load of crap when he's doing all this for free. He's taken on way more responsibility than he should have because a slacker let the ball drop and can't get his shit together. Not his fault. Those who ordered shirts should be thanking azweber9 heavily and those who didn't order shirts should shut the hell up. I'm tired of listening to a bunch of people slamming the guy for trying to do a good thing. MY $0.02.

"Who are you going to believe, me or your own eyes?"

by Jettero2112 on Mar 4, 2008 8:27 PM CST up reply actions

Yeah why don't you take your own advice?

If you don't like what's posted, keep your thoughts to yourself.

You want to explain why you think I deserve to take this bullshit from you all when I am truly the only one working (with some help from Al) to get this figured out?

Seriously, you ask yourself that? Why is this right? If you were me, would you be a bit pissed that I was taking every chance to dump my shit on you?

And as always, Jettero, thanks for your help with these people!

MMMMM...Nutrisystem!

by Kinky Reggae on Mar 4, 2008 9:57 PM CST up reply actions

Hey outside observer

if this doesn't concern you, why not go observe elsewhere. Unless you are impatiently waiting for awesome shirts arrive, you don't add anything to this diary. I don't find any reason to doubt the integrity of azweb. If the OOT shirts don't work out, that makes him just as much a victim of this whole fiasco as the rest of us. And will actually make extra work for him if he does have to issue refunds. I don't wish that on him.

"The only way to prove that you're a good sport is to lose." ~ Ernie Banks

by love the ivy on Mar 5, 2008 9:08 AM CST up reply actions

Thank you!

MMMMM...Nutrisystem!

by Kinky Reggae on Mar 5, 2008 9:23 AM CST up reply actions

Well I don't know A9

from a hole in the wall, but this appears to having been going on for MONTHS if I am not incorrect.

At the very least it calls into serious question a9's judgement. I know I sure wouldn't trust him to make any important decisions or delegate any important tasks to.

by gbs on Mar 5, 2008 11:17 AM CST up reply actions

Hey thanks for your support.

Good thing your opinion is of no importance here.

MMMMM...Nutrisystem!

by Kinky Reggae on Mar 5, 2008 12:59 PM CST up reply actions

Don't have an answer to "why"...

...so I got to thinking about what could Chad do with 20 BCB shirts.

Obviously he could wear them - have a nice little (almost) 3 week rotation going there. Would certainly cut down on the laundry loads.
Could be he's a little league coach and Chico's Bail Bonds backed out at the last minute as a uniform sponsor.
Maybe Barry Bonds caught wind of this, saw the Project 3000 connection and figured it was all about him (isn't it always?) and his quest for 3000 hits so he made an offer that Chad couldn't refuse.
Here's one for the conspiracy theorists out there... maybe Chad is really Chris Young in disguise and he's getting back at Derrek for last season's fight.

Well, whatever he ends up doing with them, it doesn't look like he's reselling them on eBay. I did a search on "BCB" and came up with nothing resembling shirts. However, I did get a lot of hits on items like this...
http://cgi.ebay.com/BCB-GIRLS-BLACK-PUMPS-original-price-90_W0QQitemZ130201445225QQihZ003QQcategoryZ 63889QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

Al, is there something you want to tell us?

Lou Brown: "My kinda team, Charlie, my kinda team..."

by ballhawk on Mar 3, 2008 10:49 PM CST up reply actions

haaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaahaaaaaaaaa

post of the week. i want a answer for this find to mr yellon??

GO CUBS GO!!!!!

by cubsluver22 on Mar 3, 2008 11:50 PM CST up reply actions

LOL

I have NO idea who does those! But they've stolen our good name!

"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al Yellon on Mar 4, 2008 3:59 AM CST up reply actions

Well....

I haven't received a tracking number or anything. If you all wouldn't mind, I could take over the discharge duties, though I would need enough funds up front from AZWeber to post the items priority mail. Tracking numbers are no big deal--you get them if you're intelligent enough to ask for them--and alas, pay for them.

A t-shirt! A t-shirt! My kingdom for my two t-shirts!

My email is alexandrinapvalenya@yahoo.com for my tracking number, just to make it easier, you know.

GEAUX THERIOT!

by Littlerock Rynofan on Mar 3, 2008 8:41 PM CST reply actions

Well

atleast I didn't find our shirts on eBay yet.

I just really want my shirts one way or another. And maybe we are all victims of a scam or a con, but for what reason? Like it has been said before, he doesn't have the money. He won't be too successful selling them anywhere online or very public. I am going to hold out hope that my shirts will magically show up in my mailbox someday. Why not at this point?

If a refund seems like the only way to make this fiasco right, I think I will pass and just donate my 60 or whatever dollars to project 3000 anyways. I have been without this money so long, that I don't miss it. Hopefully that will add to making a nice donation from BCB.

"The only way to prove that you're a good sport is to lose." ~ Ernie Banks

by love the ivy on Mar 3, 2008 10:47 PM CST reply actions

I had contact with Chad via email approx month ago

I initially contacted him via email right around New Years regarding a timeline on when the shirts would be delivered. His response was they'll be out in the next week or so. Also, had contact with him via email at the end of January checking on the status of the shirts being mailed. He responded the shirts would be mailed out the next week, which would have been the first week of February.

Hopefully, we'll hear something regarding the shirts from Chad soon. I'm willing to wait a little bit to see how this plays out before I request a refund or donate my money to Project 3000.

by MFine2 on Mar 4, 2008 8:37 AM CST reply actions

I hope so.

thanks for your continued patientce. I agree that all Chad has ever said is that they should go out next week. Now that has changed into, they went out 1 1/2 weeks ago. I think I prefer the, next week response!

I do think we need to set a date though so some people don;t get frustrated further.

I don't want to make the refund process a long drawn out thing.

I hope there is good news today.

MMMMM...Nutrisystem!

by Kinky Reggae on Mar 4, 2008 8:42 AM CST up reply actions

azweber9

As this begins to ascend towards a police matter, you azweber9 need to clear yourself of any wrong doing. Not because people don't appreciate what you've done, but because of the facts of the case so far.

It appears that you are the only one who has ever talked to chad. There is no proof that he is a real person.

You've never posted the final dollar numbers for the process or who you got the shirts from, which allows that perhaps you simply did not fill the out-of-town portion of the order, and no one but you, and the company you ordered from, has any way of verifying.

Good luck azweber9, like i said before, you are in a bind. Probably a bigger one than chad.

by TampaCubFan on Mar 4, 2008 9:25 AM CST up reply actions

You don't have a clue.

AZ is not in a bind, Chad is. AZ has done nothing wrong and is not/will not be in any trouble. I will back him 100% if some idiot tries to start trouble with him. I have received e-mail from Chad in the stating the shirts were shipping, sames as several others. Get your facts straight before you start harassing the one person who is doing a fantastic job to get this mess sorted out. Did you buy a shirt? If not, why are you posting in this diary?

"Who are you going to believe, me or your own eyes?"

by Jettero2112 on Mar 4, 2008 9:43 AM CST up reply actions

Thank you

though I do appreciate the input as I said below. I do not want any trouble on top of having this thing blow up after 8 months.

Jusging by some peoples' comments and input, I very well may have people thinking about litigating.

I am not too concerned because I trust that most people see the effort I have put in (such as you who has been the most helpful in offering your help and support) and will in fact, get their money back if necessary.

Thank you though, for everything you have offered thus far!

MMMMM...Nutrisystem!

by Kinky Reggae on Mar 4, 2008 9:51 AM CST up reply actions

litigating?

who would "litigate" for $25?

I'm the guy in the blue under armour shirt

by joeschmitt on Mar 4, 2008 11:30 AM CST up reply actions

Well here is the way I see it.

And I thank you for the input. I am not concerned with my involvement because I have the money people gave me.

I do not believe that who I get the shirts from is important because I have all my Chicago orders to verify that I, in fact had the shirts made and delivered them as promised.

As for the OOT orders, I am prepared to issue the refunds to everyone and now that you offered your insight, probably have to do so for everyone, despite their good will offers to simply donate the money, so as to clear myself of any wrongdoing.

Rest assured that I am prepared to do so and plan on it at weeks end.

As long as each out of towner gets their money back in full, there ought not be any legal concerns for me. I will certainly consult a lawyer if necessary though.

I appreciate your input but i do think this will get resolved one way or another. I say it again and again, I want this to get doen for those invested as well as the fact that this has consumed over 8 months of my life and I would like it to succeed.

MMMMM...Nutrisystem!

by Kinky Reggae on Mar 4, 2008 9:47 AM CST up reply actions

How do you spell Chad's last name

and what city does he live in? Maybe I can find a way to contact him at work....

"Who are you going to believe, me or your own eyes?"

by Jettero2112 on Mar 4, 2008 9:56 AM CST up reply actions

i'd hate to see you

get into any trouble over this.

but even if you do refund money to everyone who got a shirt, there is still the issue of the stolen shirts. a crime has still been committed.

the only insight i offered is that the sooner you make as much as possible transparent the better off you are. keep your ducks in a row. good luck.

by TampaCubFan on Mar 4, 2008 11:28 AM CST up reply actions

"no proof that he's a real person"

Well there may be no proof, but for a fake person, he sure has left a lot of clues around. Someone else found his resume, but just a little curious googling found his college alma mater, where his brother S. is still a student, and that Chad's a big golfer, and was/is an instructor at a certain golf course in Largo, Fla. Also, the family homestead is on the 400 block of Roosevelt Ave. in Kewanee........

I'm just a bystander - I didn't lose any money - but this is pretty interesting stuff. I still believe that Chad simply doesn't have the money to pay upfront shipping for all those shirts, like he thought he would, and he's embarrassed by that.

Why does everybody stand up and sing "Take Me Out to the Ballgame" when they're already there? ~Larry Anderson

by JohnM on Mar 4, 2008 3:13 PM CST up reply actions

Chad Samaytis

the address I sent them to is Clearwater Fl.

the cell phone # is an IL cell phone.

MMMMM...Nutrisystem!

by Kinky Reggae on Mar 4, 2008 10:01 AM CST reply actions

i, not a?

Isn't it Chad Simaytis [tour99@hotmail.com]

Did he just say funky butt-loving?

by Louie on Mar 4, 2008 10:03 AM CST up reply actions

Yes, that's correct.

n/t

"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al Yellon on Mar 4, 2008 10:10 AM CST up reply actions

Well, I called the Franklin Templeton

office in St Petersburg (which is where he said he worked) and guess what....never heard of him. Not sure where to look now. Was hoping to hit him up there and, if necessary, talk to his boss.

"Who are you going to believe, me or your own eyes?"

by Jettero2112 on Mar 4, 2008 10:11 AM CST up reply actions

According to his resume on Monster

which was last updated about a month ago, he does still work for Franklin Templeton. He lists his supervisor as Robert McLeod, phone number 727.632.2301.

Chad's number is (309) 853-7414. Address is 1933 Oyster Catcher Lane #714 Clearwater, FL 33762. Hope this helps you guys track this loser down.

Oddly enough, he also indicates that he's "dependable" and "accountable" on his resume.

by kanderber on Mar 4, 2008 2:27 PM CST up reply actions

You should post this

in the other thread as well.

Did he just say funky butt-loving?

by Louie on Mar 4, 2008 2:56 PM CST up reply actions

Do you

really want to attempt to get this guy fired? Really, posting his bosses phone number? What if there is a legitimate, albeit horrible reason, he hasnt done it.

If he got fired, maybe then he would come looking for you

"Hey.....Cubs win!!!" ---Harry "I strongly dislike Steve Stone." ---Hammer

by Hammer on Mar 4, 2008 3:03 PM CST up reply actions

The most logical reason

he hasn't done it is because he doesn't have the money to pay for the shipping. Could be he's no longer employed.....and, if there's "a legitimate, albeit horrible reason", he's had every opportunity to explain that but hasn't bothered. No reason to be calling his (ex-) boss though.

Why does everybody stand up and sing "Take Me Out to the Ballgame" when they're already there? ~Larry Anderson

by JohnM on Mar 4, 2008 3:22 PM CST up reply actions

I have offered to help get it done financially

as have others. I am not sure why he wouldn't have taken us up on this offer.

MMMMM...Nutrisystem!

by Kinky Reggae on Mar 4, 2008 3:44 PM CST up reply actions

wow...

you're good

by coral on Mar 4, 2008 3:24 PM CST up reply actions

Ha, not really

Just have access to Monster.

FWIW, the only reason I'm posting this guy's personal information is because he's presently screwing a lot of people.

by kanderber on Mar 4, 2008 3:33 PM CST up reply actions

Well

I am placing a call to him today at noon when I go on break, then if I do not hear from him today, I am driving down to visit this weekend. I hope he reads this and contacts me first so I don't waste the gas. There will be contact made by our department this week or by Pinellas County Sheriff's Office. Anyone wanna tag along and we can make a weekend road trip out of it, haha...

"Oh, I get a little tired now and then, but knowing my lifestyle, that's only natural." -- Harry Caray

by Cribbs463 on Mar 4, 2008 10:07 AM CST reply actions

Everyone

should just all call him over and over again. Its nutty that this has come to the police.

"Hey.....Cubs win!!!" ---Harry "I strongly dislike Steve Stone." ---Hammer

by Hammer on Mar 4, 2008 11:21 AM CST reply actions

Well

For what it's worth, all I have done is contact some guys I used to work with that now work for PCSO. I can have them go by and check him out or make some cals without officially lodging a complaint. I return favors for them all the time up in this area. If they have no luck and I don't make contact, I will go down this weekend. I hoped to be in Tallahassee watching my undefeated Seminoles take on Maryland but will reschedule to go take care of this.

We'll see.

"Oh, I get a little tired now and then, but knowing my lifestyle, that's only natural." -- Harry Caray

by Cribbs463 on Mar 4, 2008 11:23 AM CST reply actions

Shotgun!

Thanks to the good guys that are working to resolve this. I am in the "want my shirt" brigade, but don't see any way that this will happen, barring divine intervention. Sad sad sad, and I don't fault Az or Al for any of this. Thanks for fighting the good fight. :)

How much do you think it would cost to hire a gorilla to make a trip down to Florida...

Cribbs463, have fun at the game and please keep us updated.

Dave

by Dave in the basement on Mar 4, 2008 12:27 PM CST reply actions

Sigh ... this is all so sad ...

And unfortunately, I'll need my refund--that is if my shirt doesn't show up in Friday's mail. What disturbs me is how this matter has made so many of us so bitter .... That said, let's remember that Cubbieseason is just around the block and after this fiasco is finished, concentrate on that trip to the Series.

--t.
littlerockrynofan

PS: Do you think Chad will answer the phone if we get Woowoo to call him?

GEAUX THERIOT!

by Littlerock Rynofan on Mar 4, 2008 8:32 PM CST reply actions