Open Thread: Cubs vs. Rockies, Thursday 3/20, 3:05 CT
by Al
on Mar 20, 2008 9:57 AM CDT
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SCOTTSDALE, Arizona -- Here's why headlines can be misleading (and why headline writers ought to read the story first!). Take a look at the front page of chicagosports.com. (This may change during the day, but this was the way it read at 9:45 CT.)
A side headline reads: "Wood's back spasms reopen closer battle". Right below it, the intro text to the linked article reads:
So which is it? Is he in, or is there a battle? Next, it goes on to say that Lou won't choose till after he sees Kerry go in back-to-back games, so it might not be decided till Monday.
In any case, I think we should stop worrying. Back spasms can happen to anyone (have you ever had them? I have. Pretty damn painful, but they DO go away with treatment, and Wood has professional trainers helping him.), and Kerry may be back on the mound in a day or two.
Other notes:- Not content to let Greg Couch pronounce Cubs camp a "circus" from 1500 miles away, Mike Downey weighs in with similar idiocy. Maybe he's just upset that the Tribune won't spring for a trip for him out of the rotten Chicago winter to the great weather here.
- Curious. Yesterday, rumor had it that the White Sox had waived Juan Uribe to give him his unconditional release. Not so, apparently:
Not exactly Cub-related, but thought it might be of interest here, given that we often discuss procedural moves and how and why they are made. Rumor has it down here that the White Sox may be setting up a trade.
As of Wednesday evening, they hadn't notified Uribe or agent Martin Arburua whether they had put Uribe on waivers, and they have him scheduled to start at second base this afternoon against the Dodgers in Phoenix and Saturday against the Cubs in Mesa.
That doesn't mean they haven't put Uribe on waivers, but considering there are at least four types of waiver moves, the idea that the Sox have parted ways outright with the infielder seemed to be a big jump to conclusion.
- The rotation? It may be set as soon as tomorrow. Or not:
[Lou] Piniella isn't likely to announce the winners of both spots unless a trade of one of the candidates -- most likely [Jason] Marquis -- is imminent.
- Ronny Cedeno may be the hot hitter right now, but Alex Cintron still has the inside track at the backup IF slot, despite his hamstring problem. That link also says that Lou isn't worried about Kosuke Fukudome's slow start. (And neither should we be.)
There is no radio or TV coverage of today's game. (This time I'm sure.) Here is today's MLB.com Mediacenter link anyway. Tomorrow's game in Tucson will be on ESPN2.
Discuss amongst yourselves.
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I used to like...
...Downey's columns, or at least be mildly amused by them. Recently, however, they're both uninformed ~and~ lacking in entertainment value. I don't undestand betting very well, but what's the over under on his still being employed by the Tribune in a year? This observer thinks he'll be out. ...By the way, I noted on the back page, lower right corner, that Sam Smith is retiring. Sad. I don't always agree with him, but I like reading his opinions. If only Phil Rogers was as good for the Cubs. - TL
"Why shouldn't we believe that we're going to win the World Series?" - Ted Lilly, 1/19/2008, Daily Herald interview w/Barry Rozner
by timlacy on Mar 20, 2008 10:16 AM CDT 0 recs
How do they keep their jobs anyway?
I've never "gotten" Mike Downey. He reminds me of those guys in school who thought they were funny but, in reality, were just obnoxious.
Also, Phil rogers might be the most uniformed "baseball expert" in Chicago. He seems to never get anything right-the main reason I was never too confident about the Cubs getting Brian Roberts was because Phil Rogers said, back around Christmas time, that it was basically a done deal.
by bluekoolaide on
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I meant to say...
"the back page of the Tribune's sports section, lower..." - TL
"Why shouldn't we believe that we're going to win the World Series?" - Ted Lilly, 1/19/2008, Daily Herald interview w/Barry Rozner
by timlacy on Mar 20, 2008 10:17 AM CDT 0 recs
Thread hijack...
...it is your last chance to get into the Official BCB NCAA Bracket if you haven't already. Here's the info from the last link, I will update the standings tonight.
http://www.bleedcubbieblue.com/2008/3/17/294846/official-bcb-ncaa-bracket
Dan
Evey Hammond: Vi Veri Veniversum Vivus Vici. V: By the power of truth, I, while living, have conquered the universe.
by dtpollitt on Mar 20, 2008 10:27 AM CDT 0 recs
Hopefully...
the spasms aren't too bad, a few days tops. Now if it were shoulder or elbow pain, I would be FREAKING OUT MAN!
As long as Woody takes it slow and easy, thing will be fine. There I said it...true optimism!
You ARE freaking out MAN!
by crw89 on Mar 20, 2008 10:55 AM CDT 0 recs
It has become more
evident that the majority of sport writers are instructed or they feel it is there duty to write a headline that gets to read the article, even though the headline is bogus to the story.
I think Woody will be fine, however you will see Marmol close in spots.
I just want the Cubs to start hitting the ball a bit.
"Have You heard of the Boom on Mizar 5?"
by Grockcubs on Mar 20, 2008 10:58 AM CDT 0 recs
Generally speaking, headlines are written by...
...people other than the writers, who don't know what the size or font of the headline will be. The people who do end up writing heads normally have a lot of other responsibilities, and may know next to nothing about the topic they're writing about. It's plain unfair to blame those headlines on the sportswriters.
by cwyers on
Mar 20, 2008 2:08 PM CDT
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Downer
Ah, job security for Downey ... no Chicago sportswriter can go wrong with a pessimistic and cynical viewpoint about the Cubs.
Hey, Mike, here's an idea: come up with some actual news about the team on your own and then write a story.
If It Takes Forever ....
by wrigley1 on Mar 20, 2008 11:00 AM CDT 0 recs
I have heard about the Sox looking into Roberts...
I truly hope he is not headed to the south side. I still want him here on the north side.
Damn Nutrisystem...I'm freakin dyin for some Italian beef!
by Kinky Reggae on Mar 20, 2008 11:19 AM CDT 0 recs
They Don't Have Anything...
...left in their farm system that would attract Roberts.
Jacque Jones is gone, and I doubt Ivan DeJesus would mind this!
by initram on
Mar 20, 2008 11:28 AM CDT
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No way...
I don't see how the Sox could get him-the Orioles want prospects and the Sox' system is one of the lowest rated in baseball right now. It sounds to me like the writers are starting to get bored with the ongoing Roberts to the Cubs story (just like all of us) and are trying to invent a new angle.
by bluekoolaide on
Mar 20, 2008 2:43 PM CDT
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Thanks to SBN 2.0...
...I just joined Giants blog McCovey Chronicles and, FWIW, they're discussing Juan Uribe as a potential SS in this fanpost. Going from Vizquel to Uribe would have to be considered a step down, no?
Ladies and gentlemen, your 2008 Chicago Cubs starting outfield: Soriano-Pie-Fukudome. Let it be.
by dat cubfan daver on Mar 20, 2008 11:31 AM CDT 0 recs
Uribe instead of Vizquel?
i know Vizquel is hurt but that sounds like the Giants aren't expecting him back any time soon. how badly injured is he?
by bluekoolaide on
Mar 20, 2008 2:45 PM CDT
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Uribe Vs Vizquel
Uribe would also be an offensive upgrade which they desperately need.
"We're going to turn this team around 360 degrees." -Jason Kidd
by tony412 on
Mar 20, 2008 2:49 PM CDT
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Today is the beginning of the Dodgers
playing in the Cactus League. Way overdue IMO. I know why they decided to stay in Vero Beach for so long, but it only makes sense to have them in AZ. Especially when you consider that with every other team in the NL West out here, that it might've put them in a little bit of a disadvantage as the 3 other teams got a good look at eachother before heading into the regular season.
Other Cactus news, the White Sox are determined to be out of Tucson by next season as they're trying to reach an agreement with Tucson City officials to bring a annual National softball tourrnament there instead. Something like that, I'll try to find a link.
It won't be too much longer until there will be no games held in Tucson. Which would be fine with me.
by lemon20pie on Mar 20, 2008 11:33 AM CDT 0 recs
I agree.
Nothing against Tucson itself or any BCB readers who live there (I know of at least two of you), but it makes little sense to have two or three teams two plus hours down I-10, when there will be 11 or 12 teams in the Phoenix area training by next spring.
If the entire Cactus League were in the Phoenix area, that would be a boon to all the teams, not to mention the fans.
It'll be interesting to see what happens to the Rockies and D'backs once the White Sox make their deal to leave Tucson.
"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx
by Al on
Mar 20, 2008 12:24 PM CDT
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I disagree of course
I understand why they want to move to Phoenix but I still don't like it.
Here is the article that lemon20pie was refering too. It's a youth baseball league. I really don't think it's a good replacement.
http://www.azstarnet.com/allheadlines/230117.php
A baseball game is simply a nervous breakdown divided into nine innings. ~Earl Wilson
by tucsoncubsfan on
Mar 20, 2008 12:33 PM CDT
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It probably isn't.
But the White Sox want to get out of there so badly that I suspect they'll do just about anything.
The article says that Pinal County officials are "seriously" looking at the idea. If it can replace the estimated $30 million impact the Sox have there, they'll probably do it.
"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx
by Al on
Mar 20, 2008 12:38 PM CDT
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That should be PIMA County, not PINAL County.
n/t
"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx
by Al on
Mar 20, 2008 12:43 PM CDT
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Ty for the link Tucson
I agree with Al that I have nothing against Tucson but it's just not going to be logistically possible. You'll have 2 teams in Tucson and the rest in Phoenix area. Next year the Dodgers come and possibly the White Sox and then the Indians will be coming out here as well.
Unlike Florida, ST teams out here like it because of the proximity to other camps. You can get a good workout in in the morning before you even play your game and not have so much travel time.
by lemon20pie on
Mar 20, 2008 12:39 PM CDT
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I'd want to stay in Tucson. You get all those teams that close together in a major city and it's more fun than work. I like the idea of keeping the teams spread out although it's gotta be hell for traveling.
I'm drunk......and it shows.....
by Keystone80435 on
Mar 20, 2008 2:59 PM CDT
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Downey's columns are unreadable...
..beyond me how is gets the front page day after day. His topics are a week behind and usually of little interest with a bizarre sense of humor.
I swear this town used to have good sportswriters...
Let me get back to you, will ya, Charlie? I got a guy on the other line asking about some white walls.
by JB 23 on Mar 20, 2008 11:38 AM CDT 0 recs
Downey
Where has this guy been? He thinks the talk about Roberts has covered only the last month? Further more, to list all the aliments on the Cubs is goofy. I would take anything on that list as opposed to a torn ham string or any other injury that could affect the team during the season.
"You can't take life to seriously, you don't get out of it alive"
by wild bill on
Mar 20, 2008 11:50 AM CDT
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Injuries
Agreed. Right now there are no discussions about anyone starting the season on the DL. There are quite a few other teams that would take the Cubs' injury "problems".
by rlpete on
Mar 20, 2008 12:03 PM CDT
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It certainly doesn't sound like
Wood's back will be something that causes him to miss extended time and it's not his arm or his elbow, but can you blame people for "overreacting" when Wood complains of back sorenesss? This is certainly not the first time Kerry has had issues with his back. This could be no big deal, but do you honestly feel confident that Kerry won't miss another game due to his back? I don't. My opinion of this "injury" is that since it's his back spasms again, it's the lesser of the two evils.
I can understand people thinking "here we go again" when they heard about this story. 1. it's Kerry Wood and 2. it's the Chicago Cubs and after all:
by lemon20pie on
Mar 20, 2008 12:13 PM CDT
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I hate to disagree with you...but actually...
As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.
by santoswoodenlegs on
Mar 20, 2008 12:18 PM CDT
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Rich Hill
Back home after a few days out of town. The weather is slowly but surely improving, and Opening Day is now 11 days away!! And Al, the new BCB site looks great.
Here is a question to stir the pot a little: Rich Hill is starting today. Whenever questions of the rotation come up, it's always Dempster, Leiber, and Marquis competing for two spots. Yet these three have, for the most part, pitched great this spring. The pitcher who has yet to show his 2007 form at all is Rich Hill. He has had, by far, the worst spring of any of the Cubs starters. Which begs the question, if Hill gets shelled again today, does he become the odd man out? I mean, if we want our five best guys in the rotation, it hasn't even been close as to who the sixth best starter has been this spring. Could Hill possibly be the long-man in the pen if he's no good today?
"Don't complain to me about the stormy weather, boys. Just bring the ship into port." --Steve Stone, September 2004
by ctcoff99 on Mar 20, 2008 12:08 PM CDT 0 recs
THere is zero chance Rich Hill
will not be a starter.
Speaking of Rich Hill and we got a few hours to kill, here's a question for you:
Would you trade Rich Hill straight up for Brian Roberts?
by lemon20pie on
Mar 20, 2008 12:15 PM CDT
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Honestly
The Orioles would need to sweeten it up. Interesting thought though. But I would not trade straight up.
"You can't take life to seriously, you don't get out of it alive"
by wild bill on
Mar 20, 2008 12:18 PM CDT
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By sweeten it up
I'm guessing you don't mean Jay Payton?
by lemon20pie on
Mar 20, 2008 12:22 PM CDT
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Actually
I hear that Jay is a real sweet guy. But no, I personally have no interest to have Payton on this club.
"You can't take life to seriously, you don't get out of it alive"
by wild bill on
Mar 20, 2008 12:39 PM CDT
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why not.............
Lofton as a reserve outfielder. I know he's lefthanded but he fills the bill of being able to play all 3 of spots. Speed, insurance for Pie or even Soriano if he goes down again. Or would Lou get to antsy having him sitting behing Pie and not give felix a true chance?
Seems one year and 2M would do it.
by plenz on
Mar 20, 2008 1:37 PM CDT
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His name has come
up in serveral different sources. I am not sure why not Lofton. Every year he puts up decent numbers, seems like a team player as well. But without checking, it also seems he has been wearing a new hat the last five or six years. It does make you wonder why.
"You can't take life to seriously, you don't get out of it alive"
by wild bill on
Mar 20, 2008 3:21 PM CDT
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I think it's because
Kenny Lofton's become that junker car. You keep driving it, but you never know when it's going to just break down -- you'll get out, close the door, and every piece of trim falls off, the doors fall off, the tires burst, and the engine explodes.
Just like that.
2008: The year we put it all together.
by drewishdrewid on
Mar 20, 2008 3:25 PM CDT
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It's also because Kenny doesn't do anything the Cubs need him to do
He can't play CF anymore and he can't hit left-handed pitching. I'm not sure what he offers that Eric Patterson wouldn't offer cheaper.
by DGU on
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Would agree
to some extend. But thirty one other teams must not need him either. I still think it is strange though.
"You can't take life to seriously, you don't get out of it alive"
by wild bill on
Mar 20, 2008 5:31 PM CDT
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Yes, I would
This is essentially the beginning of the same debate we had here a few years ago when discussing the supposed Prior for Tejada deal.
Roberts gets on base at the top of the order, which the Cubs desperately need. He's got speed, which is nice. Puts pressure on the pitcher when guys are coming up that you don't want to make mistakes with. He's got a bit of pop in his bat. He's a switch hitter and is only 30 years old.
He's the type of player that has the chance to make a significant impact every single day.
Rich Hill is a decent pitcher. I like him. But really, the biggest thing in his favor is his price and the fact that the Cubs have control over him longer than they would over Roberts.
by ScottT on
Mar 20, 2008 2:51 PM CDT
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Rich Hill is
the Cubs' starter I'm most worried about right now. But, yeah, there's no way he isn't in the rotation. I'd be tempted to trade him for Roberts but i don't think the Orioles would go for it-they're out to rebuild their system-MacPhail wants quantity in return for his established guys.
by bluekoolaide on
Mar 20, 2008 2:52 PM CDT
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You Know...
...we're supposed to get 6" of snow tomorrow?
Jacque Jones is gone, and I doubt Ivan DeJesus would mind this!
by initram on
Mar 20, 2008 12:18 PM CDT
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Ugh.
I'm glad I'm in Arizona. Gotta get all that snow melted in 10 days!
"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx
by Al on
Mar 20, 2008 12:23 PM CDT
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I did not know that.
Thanks for sharing. : ) And no, I would not trade Rich Hill straight up for Brian Roberts. This whole thing has been enough of a distraction already. Go with Theriot leading off and Soriano at number two. DeRosa is our second baseman, and I say, let it be. If they trade for him, OK, but Andy the Clown has had four months to do this. If I'm the Cubs GM, I'm moving on. Play ball.
"Don't complain to me about the stormy weather, boys. Just bring the ship into port." --Steve Stone, September 2004
by ctcoff99 on
Mar 20, 2008 12:23 PM CDT
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Well I agree
that this needs to desperately come to an end by the end of the week one way or the other, whether Roberts becomes a Cub or Hendry put's this awful mess to an end by stating publicly the deal is dead.
by lemon20pie on
Mar 20, 2008 12:26 PM CDT
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But....
I still say that given the way he has thrown this spring, today is a big outing for Rich Hill. If he has another bad one today, in my book he is the odd man out until he has a good showing. You want your five best guys starting. And the five best have been Z, Lilly, Leiber, Dempster, and Marquis. That being said, being demoted to the pen would probably destroy Hill's confidence, and therefore, any hope of being a quality starter again. Lieber publicly said he would not mind going to the bullpen, so does that make things easier? I don't know. Bottom line, Hill needs to get his stuff together fast. As in today.
"Don't complain to me about the stormy weather, boys. Just bring the ship into port." --Steve Stone, September 2004
by ctcoff99 on
Mar 20, 2008 12:39 PM CDT
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Well to Hill's defense
His best pitch is his curve ball and it's really really hard to throw that pitch out here successfully. It's just too much work. You have to really overthrow it to and ofcourse that creates bad habit. My guess is that for Hill, Larry is more concerned and focused on whether or not Rich can keep his fastball down and that's been a big focus for them this Spring.
by lemon20pie on
Mar 20, 2008 12:44 PM CDT
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Hey, hey, hey!
It's not snow, it's snizzle.
Ladies and gentlemen, your 2008 Chicago Cubs starting outfield: Soriano-Pie-Fukudome. Let it be.
by dat cubfan daver on
Mar 20, 2008 12:26 PM CDT
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Oh joy...
...not only is it going to dump 8 inches of this stuff, it is going to be very difficult to plow it!!
That's like a double-whammy!
Jacque Jones is gone, and I doubt Ivan DeJesus would mind this!
by initram on
Mar 20, 2008 12:50 PM CDT
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actually.............
6-10" now in the burbs where I am
SHITTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
by plenz on
Mar 20, 2008 1:47 PM CDT
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Sorry I didn't see this earlier.
But no, I didn't.
"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx
by Al on
Mar 20, 2008 6:53 PM CDT
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Wood's back spasms
I understand that Wood has had back issues in the past, but does anyone else wonder if his back trouble could be related to the exertion it would take to beat the crap out of a Nissan?
Just saying.
-- Debbie Downer
This is the car, according to the Hardball blog over at chicagosports.com.
"These are the saddest of possible words: Tinker to Evers to Chance."
by bluebythebook on Mar 20, 2008 1:22 PM CDT 0 recs
WOW
Thats crazy.
"Hey.....Cubs win!!!" ---Harry "I strongly dislike Steve Stone." ---Hammer
by Hammer on
Mar 20, 2008 1:31 PM CDT
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HAHAHAHAHAH
I was just now thinking the same thing! I was wondering if his back issues have anything to do with swinging a bat at the car!
I'm drunk......and it shows.....
by Keystone80435 on
Mar 20, 2008 2:49 PM CDT
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No doubt
1st falling out of a hot tube, now injured hitting a car with a bat. Unreal haha
I'm drunk......and it shows.....
by Keystone80435 on
Mar 20, 2008 2:55 PM CDT
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the third injury?
Bizarre gardening accident.
"These are the saddest of possible words: Tinker to Evers to Chance."
by bluebythebook on
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Fukudome and Concern in the same breath
I believe I tend to fall well outside the realm of the constant-worrying and overly sensitive Cubs fan when it comes to obsessing over every reported camp bump, bruise, actual injury or performance however....
Lou can paint it any way he wants to. Fukudome's performance has me concerned. Not necessarily worried but concerned. For the same token, so does Lee's. No, I wouldn't expect to see Lee's career year of 2005 any time soon, but something resembling 2007 (or better) would be nice.
I don't put a whole lot of stock in spring numbers but when they are as glaringly lacking as the numbers of both of those guys are, it may not be time to push the panic button but at least have the "concern button" at the ready.
Yes, Lee has a track record and all and Fukudome does as well half way around the world. But, I'm just saying.....
Eighty-five percent of the f*ckin' world is working. The other fifteen percent come out here. -- Lee Constantine Elia, 1983.
by krummy12 on Mar 20, 2008 1:39 PM CDT 0 recs
Just sayin'
There was an interesting story I heard recently about Ichiro's first spring. I think it was on the Score or ESPN 1000 one afternoon. But, nearly everytime he came to bat, all he'd do was pull a weak groundball to the right side. After days and days of this, Lou and his staff at Seattle were worried like hell, thinking... what kind of friggin ballplayer did we just get. So, Lou somehow says to Ichiro, "Can you hit it to the opposite field at all?"
In Ichiro's next at-bat, he slapped a double to left field on like the 1st pitch. When he was questioned about it later, he said "Why give them a scouting report on me right before the start of the season?" So, he sandbagged the whole spring.
Ed Lynch is STILL on the Cubs payroll, as our D-Backs scout in Phoenix. Lynch attends all 81 D-Back home games with a notepad in hand. Really paid off for us!
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I hate to say it...
but I think you're right on. Everybody seems to be automatically annointing Fukodome as a superstar-until he proves it though, he's just another highly touted "prospect".
Lee needs to pick up his power numbers-he had a good overall "Mark Grace" type year last season but, let's be honest, the Cubs signed him to that big contract to hit homeruns and knock runs in-last year's numbers just don't cut it. i don't know much about broken bones but could he have permanently damaged the wrist back in 2006? god, I don't want to even think about it.
by bluekoolaide on
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John Fay has a possible Reds lineup, and I have to say, looking at that makes me smile away any of our lineup concerns:
http://news.enquirer.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20080320/SPT04/803200332/1062/SPT
by DGU on Mar 20, 2008 1:46 PM CDT 0 recs
Fukudome..
Hopefully he gets it going soon, but i think its reasonable to expect his numbers to be down to start out, considering all of the adjustments he has to make (dealing with a new culture, playing day games in the cold at Wrigley, facing MLB pitching).
by lance dickson on Mar 20, 2008 1:47 PM CDT 0 recs
Understood
I'm OK with that line of thinking but to me, that sounds a bit like coddling. Yes, cultural adjustments are to be expected and climatic adjustments just the same. But he was brought over here to be a professional hitter and right now, that's not happening. Again, a lot of things change from March to June but to suggest that his struggles will magically turn into consistent production is probably not a reasonable belief.
Again, I'm not panic-stricken over any of these current "struggles" but am trying to own up to having a greater than usual sense of concern over these two guys, Fukudome in particular.
Eighty-five percent of the f*ckin' world is working. The other fifteen percent come out here. -- Lee Constantine Elia, 1983.
by krummy12 on
Mar 20, 2008 1:54 PM CDT
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His onbase is OK
If he hits 260 and continues to walk more than strikeout Id be happy.
"Hey.....Cubs win!!!" ---Harry "I strongly dislike Steve Stone." ---Hammer
by Hammer on
Mar 20, 2008 1:58 PM CDT
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I could be wrong...
but i think Ichiro struggled mightily his first spring with the Mariners, and went on to have a great season. Hopefully Fukudome follows a similar path...
by lance dickson on Mar 20, 2008 2:05 PM CDT 0 recs
YOu are not wrong
Mariner fans were thinking he was gonna stink. He was late on nearly every swing and took him a bit to get used to the speed of MLB baseball, just like it's gonna take for Fuku.
by lemon20pie on
Mar 20, 2008 2:07 PM CDT
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I hope so too
but, unfortunately, there's only one Ichiro.
by bluekoolaide on
Mar 20, 2008 3:31 PM CDT
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According to the Score
Wood will pitch today. I just hope that he isn't putting pressure on himself and rushing back a day too soon.
We are all waiting for that glorious October night when we finally win it all. Until then we will continue to cheer, never do the wave and hope.
by cubstoseriesby100 on Mar 20, 2008 2:21 PM CDT 0 recs
Lineups
Rox
Podsednik, CF
Torrealba, C
Baker, 1B
Spilborghs, LF
M. Giles, 2B
Stewart, 3B
Barmes, SS
Sullivan, RF
Morales, P
Cubs
Theriot, SS
Soriano, LF
Lee, 1B
Ramirez, 3B
Fukudome, CF (That's correct)
Murton, RF
DeRosa, 2B
Blanco, C
Hill, P
by Bruce Miles on Mar 20, 2008 2:25 PM CDT 0 recs
Good...
I want to see him get some time in CF...I still say he's our best option when we face a tough LHP and Lou wants Pie to sit.
As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.
by santoswoodenlegs on
Mar 20, 2008 2:29 PM CDT
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just thinking...
if we did manage to get Roberts, what about Fukodome in center and DeRosa in right?
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Mar 20, 2008 3:32 PM CDT
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Not a bad idea
That is if Dome would be Ok with that because I know the Cubs promised him RF which sounds like the main reason why he came here.
Having said that, I'd rather have Murton in RF and Derosa at 2B and Roberts at SS. Ward hit's against Righties. That would be one hell