Open Thread: Cubs vs. Rockies, Thursday 3/20, 3:05 CT

by Al on Mar 20, 2008 9:57 AM CDT in Game Threads Comment 246 comments

SCOTTSDALE, Arizona -- Here's why headlines can be misleading (and why headline writers ought to read the story first!). Take a look at the front page of chicagosports.com. (This may change during the day, but this was the way it read at 9:45 CT.)

A side headline reads: "Wood's back spasms reopen closer battle". Right below it, the intro text to the linked article reads:

Kerry Wood's back spasms shouldn't affect his front-runner status in the three-way race for the closer's spot.

So which is it? Is he in, or is there a battle? Next, it goes on to say that Lou won't choose till after he sees Kerry go in back-to-back games, so it might not be decided till Monday.

In any case, I think we should stop worrying. Back spasms can happen to anyone (have you ever had them? I have. Pretty damn painful, but they DO go away with treatment, and Wood has professional trainers helping him.), and Kerry may be back on the mound in a day or two.

Other notes:

Not content to let Greg Couch pronounce Cubs camp a "circus" from 1500 miles away, Mike Downey weighs in with similar idiocy. Maybe he's just upset that the Tribune won't spring for a trip for him out of the rotten Chicago winter to the great weather here.
Curious. Yesterday, rumor had it that the White Sox had waived Juan Uribe to give him his unconditional release. Not so, apparently:
As of Wednesday evening, they hadn't notified Uribe or agent Martin Arburua whether they had put Uribe on waivers, and they have him scheduled to start at second base this afternoon against the Dodgers in Phoenix and Saturday against the Cubs in Mesa.

That doesn't mean they haven't put Uribe on waivers, but considering there are at least four types of waiver moves, the idea that the Sox have parted ways outright with the infielder seemed to be a big jump to conclusion.
Not exactly Cub-related, but thought it might be of interest here, given that we often discuss procedural moves and how and why they are made. Rumor has it down here that the White Sox may be setting up a trade.
The rotation? It may be set as soon as tomorrow. Or not:
[Lou] Piniella isn't likely to announce the winners of both spots unless a trade of one of the candidates -- most likely [Jason] Marquis -- is imminent.
Ronny Cedeno may be the hot hitter right now, but Alex Cintron still has the inside track at the backup IF slot, despite his hamstring problem. That link also says that Lou isn't worried about Kosuke Fukudome's slow start. (And neither should we be.)

There is no radio or TV coverage of today's game. (This time I'm sure.) Here is today's MLB.com Mediacenter link anyway. Tomorrow's game in Tucson will be on ESPN2.

MLB.com Gameday

Discuss amongst yourselves.

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I used to like...

...Downey's columns, or at least be mildly amused by them. Recently, however, they're both uninformed ~and~ lacking in entertainment value. I don't undestand betting very well, but what's the over under on his still being employed by the Tribune in a year? This observer thinks he'll be out. ...By the way, I noted on the back page, lower right corner, that Sam Smith is retiring. Sad. I don't always agree with him, but I like reading his opinions. If only Phil Rogers was as good for the Cubs. - TL

"Why shouldn't we believe that we're going to win the World Series?" - Ted Lilly, 1/19/2008, Daily Herald interview w/Barry Rozner

by timlacy on Mar 20, 2008 10:16 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs

How do they keep their jobs anyway?

I've never "gotten" Mike Downey. He reminds me of those guys in school who thought they were funny but, in reality, were just obnoxious.
Also, Phil rogers might be the most uniformed "baseball expert" in Chicago. He seems to never get anything right-the main reason I was never too confident about the Cubs getting Brian Roberts was because Phil Rogers said, back around Christmas time, that it was basically a done deal.

by bluekoolaide on Mar 20, 2008 2:39 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

I meant to say...

"the back page of the Tribune's sports section, lower..." - TL

"Why shouldn't we believe that we're going to win the World Series?" - Ted Lilly, 1/19/2008, Daily Herald interview w/Barry Rozner

by timlacy on Mar 20, 2008 10:17 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs

Thread hijack...

...it is your last chance to get into the Official BCB NCAA Bracket if you haven't already. Here's the info from the last link, I will update the standings tonight.

http://www.bleedcubbieblue.com/2008/3/17/294846/official-bcb-ncaa-bracket

Dan

Evey Hammond: Vi Veri Veniversum Vivus Vici. V: By the power of truth, I, while living, have conquered the universe.

by dtpollitt on Mar 20, 2008 10:27 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs

Hopefully...

the spasms aren't too bad, a few days tops. Now if it were shoulder or elbow pain, I would be FREAKING OUT MAN!

As long as Woody takes it slow and easy, thing will be fine. There I said it...true optimism!

You ARE freaking out MAN!

by crw89 on Mar 20, 2008 10:55 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs

It has become more

evident that the majority of sport writers are instructed or they feel it is there duty to write a headline that gets to read the article, even though the headline is bogus to the story.
I think Woody will be fine, however you will see Marmol close in spots.
I just want the Cubs to start hitting the ball a bit.

"Have You heard of the Boom on Mizar 5?"

by Grockcubs on Mar 20, 2008 10:58 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs

Generally speaking, headlines are written by...

...people other than the writers, who don't know what the size or font of the headline will be. The people who do end up writing heads normally have a lot of other responsibilities, and may know next to nothing about the topic they're writing about. It's plain unfair to blame those headlines on the sportswriters.

I has a blog.

by cwyers on Mar 20, 2008 2:08 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Downer

Ah, job security for Downey ... no Chicago sportswriter can go wrong with a pessimistic and cynical viewpoint about the Cubs.

Hey, Mike, here's an idea: come up with some actual news about the team on your own and then write a story.

If It Takes Forever ....

by wrigley1 on Mar 20, 2008 11:00 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs

I have heard about the Sox looking into Roberts...

I truly hope he is not headed to the south side. I still want him here on the north side.

Damn Nutrisystem...I'm freakin dyin for some Italian beef!

by Kinky Reggae on Mar 20, 2008 11:19 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs

They Don't Have Anything...

...left in their farm system that would attract Roberts.

Jacque Jones is gone, and I doubt Ivan DeJesus would mind this!

by initram on Mar 20, 2008 11:28 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

No way...

I don't see how the Sox could get him-the Orioles want prospects and the Sox' system is one of the lowest rated in baseball right now. It sounds to me like the writers are starting to get bored with the ongoing Roberts to the Cubs story (just like all of us) and are trying to invent a new angle.

by bluekoolaide on Mar 20, 2008 2:43 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Thanks to SBN 2.0...

...I just joined Giants blog McCovey Chronicles and, FWIW, they're discussing Juan Uribe as a potential SS in this fanpost. Going from Vizquel to Uribe would have to be considered a step down, no?

Ladies and gentlemen, your 2008 Chicago Cubs starting outfield: Soriano-Pie-Fukudome. Let it be.

by dat cubfan daver on Mar 20, 2008 11:31 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs

Uribe instead of Vizquel?

i know Vizquel is hurt but that sounds like the Giants aren't expecting him back any time soon. how badly injured is he?

by bluekoolaide on Mar 20, 2008 2:45 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Uribe Vs Vizquel

Uribe would also be an offensive upgrade which they desperately need.

"We're going to turn this team around 360 degrees." -Jason Kidd

by tony412 on Mar 20, 2008 2:49 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Today is the beginning of the Dodgers

playing in the Cactus League. Way overdue IMO. I know why they decided to stay in Vero Beach for so long, but it only makes sense to have them in AZ. Especially when you consider that with every other team in the NL West out here, that it might've put them in a little bit of a disadvantage as the 3 other teams got a good look at eachother before heading into the regular season.

Other Cactus news, the White Sox are determined to be out of Tucson by next season as they're trying to reach an agreement with Tucson City officials to bring a annual National softball tourrnament there instead. Something like that, I'll try to find a link.

It won't be too much longer until there will be no games held in Tucson. Which would be fine with me.

by lemon20pie on Mar 20, 2008 11:33 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs

I agree.

Nothing against Tucson itself or any BCB readers who live there (I know of at least two of you), but it makes little sense to have two or three teams two plus hours down I-10, when there will be 11 or 12 teams in the Phoenix area training by next spring.

If the entire Cactus League were in the Phoenix area, that would be a boon to all the teams, not to mention the fans.

It'll be interesting to see what happens to the Rockies and D'backs once the White Sox make their deal to leave Tucson.

"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al on Mar 20, 2008 12:24 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

I disagree of course

I understand why they want to move to Phoenix but I still don't like it.

Here is the article that lemon20pie was refering too. It's a youth baseball league. I really don't think it's a good replacement.

http://www.azstarnet.com/allheadlines/230117.php

A baseball game is simply a nervous breakdown divided into nine innings. ~Earl Wilson

by tucsoncubsfan on Mar 20, 2008 12:33 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

It probably isn't.

But the White Sox want to get out of there so badly that I suspect they'll do just about anything.

The article says that Pinal County officials are "seriously" looking at the idea. If it can replace the estimated $30 million impact the Sox have there, they'll probably do it.

"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al on Mar 20, 2008 12:38 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

That should be PIMA County, not PINAL County.

n/t

"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al on Mar 20, 2008 12:43 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Ty for the link Tucson

I agree with Al that I have nothing against Tucson but it's just not going to be logistically possible. You'll have 2 teams in Tucson and the rest in Phoenix area. Next year the Dodgers come and possibly the White Sox and then the Indians will be coming out here as well.

Unlike Florida, ST teams out here like it because of the proximity to other camps. You can get a good workout in in the morning before you even play your game and not have so much travel time.

by lemon20pie on Mar 20, 2008 12:39 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

I'd want to stay in Tucson. You get all those teams that close together in a major city and it's more fun than work. I like the idea of keeping the teams spread out although it's gotta be hell for traveling.

I'm drunk......and it shows.....

by Keystone80435 on Mar 20, 2008 2:59 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

I don't understand what you mean by

major city?

by lemon20pie on Mar 20, 2008 3:03 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Downey's columns are unreadable...

..beyond me how is gets the front page day after day. His topics are a week behind and usually of little interest with a bizarre sense of humor.

I swear this town used to have good sportswriters...

Let me get back to you, will ya, Charlie? I got a guy on the other line asking about some white walls.

by JB 23 on Mar 20, 2008 11:38 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs

Downey

Where has this guy been? He thinks the talk about Roberts has covered only the last month? Further more, to list all the aliments on the Cubs is goofy. I would take anything on that list as opposed to a torn ham string or any other injury that could affect the team during the season.

"You can't take life to seriously, you don't get out of it alive"

by wild bill on Mar 20, 2008 11:50 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Injuries

Agreed. Right now there are no discussions about anyone starting the season on the DL. There are quite a few other teams that would take the Cubs' injury "problems".

by rlpete on Mar 20, 2008 12:03 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

It certainly doesn't sound like

Wood's back will be something that causes him to miss extended time and it's not his arm or his elbow, but can you blame people for "overreacting" when Wood complains of back sorenesss? This is certainly not the first time Kerry has had issues with his back. This could be no big deal, but do you honestly feel confident that Kerry won't miss another game due to his back? I don't. My opinion of this "injury" is that since it's his back spasms again, it's the lesser of the two evils.

I can understand people thinking "here we go again" when they heard about this story. 1. it's Kerry Wood and 2. it's the Chicago Cubs and after all:

by lemon20pie on Mar 20, 2008 12:13 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

I hate to disagree with you...but actually...

As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.

by santoswoodenlegs on Mar 20, 2008 12:18 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

I think we canboth agree on this (see recent fanpost),,,

by lemon20pie on Mar 20, 2008 12:34 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Rich Hill

Back home after a few days out of town. The weather is slowly but surely improving, and Opening Day is now 11 days away!! And Al, the new BCB site looks great.

Here is a question to stir the pot a little: Rich Hill is starting today. Whenever questions of the rotation come up, it's always Dempster, Leiber, and Marquis competing for two spots. Yet these three have, for the most part, pitched great this spring. The pitcher who has yet to show his 2007 form at all is Rich Hill. He has had, by far, the worst spring of any of the Cubs starters. Which begs the question, if Hill gets shelled again today, does he become the odd man out? I mean, if we want our five best guys in the rotation, it hasn't even been close as to who the sixth best starter has been this spring. Could Hill possibly be the long-man in the pen if he's no good today?

"Don't complain to me about the stormy weather, boys. Just bring the ship into port." --Steve Stone, September 2004

by ctcoff99 on Mar 20, 2008 12:08 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

THere is zero chance Rich Hill

will not be a starter.

Speaking of Rich Hill and we got a few hours to kill, here's a question for you:

Would you trade Rich Hill straight up for Brian Roberts?

by lemon20pie on Mar 20, 2008 12:15 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Honestly

The Orioles would need to sweeten it up. Interesting thought though. But I would not trade straight up.

"You can't take life to seriously, you don't get out of it alive"

by wild bill on Mar 20, 2008 12:18 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

By sweeten it up

I'm guessing you don't mean Jay Payton?

by lemon20pie on Mar 20, 2008 12:22 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Actually

I hear that Jay is a real sweet guy. But no, I personally have no interest to have Payton on this club.

"You can't take life to seriously, you don't get out of it alive"

by wild bill on Mar 20, 2008 12:39 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

why not.............

Lofton as a reserve outfielder. I know he's lefthanded but he fills the bill of being able to play all 3 of spots. Speed, insurance for Pie or even Soriano if he goes down again. Or would Lou get to antsy having him sitting behing Pie and not give felix a true chance?
Seems one year and 2M would do it.

by plenz on Mar 20, 2008 1:37 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

His name has come

up in serveral different sources. I am not sure why not Lofton. Every year he puts up decent numbers, seems like a team player as well. But without checking, it also seems he has been wearing a new hat the last five or six years. It does make you wonder why.

"You can't take life to seriously, you don't get out of it alive"

by wild bill on Mar 20, 2008 3:21 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

I think it's because

Kenny Lofton's become that junker car. You keep driving it, but you never know when it's going to just break down -- you'll get out, close the door, and every piece of trim falls off, the doors fall off, the tires burst, and the engine explodes.

Just like that.

2008: The year we put it all together.

by drewishdrewid on Mar 20, 2008 3:25 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

It's also because Kenny doesn't do anything the Cubs need him to do

He can't play CF anymore and he can't hit left-handed pitching. I'm not sure what he offers that Eric Patterson wouldn't offer cheaper.

by DGU on Mar 20, 2008 4:13 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Would agree

to some extend. But thirty one other teams must not need him either. I still think it is strange though.

"You can't take life to seriously, you don't get out of it alive"

by wild bill on Mar 20, 2008 5:31 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Yes, I would

This is essentially the beginning of the same debate we had here a few years ago when discussing the supposed Prior for Tejada deal.

Roberts gets on base at the top of the order, which the Cubs desperately need. He's got speed, which is nice. Puts pressure on the pitcher when guys are coming up that you don't want to make mistakes with. He's got a bit of pop in his bat. He's a switch hitter and is only 30 years old.

He's the type of player that has the chance to make a significant impact every single day.

Rich Hill is a decent pitcher. I like him. But really, the biggest thing in his favor is his price and the fact that the Cubs have control over him longer than they would over Roberts.

by ScottT on Mar 20, 2008 2:51 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Rich Hill is

the Cubs' starter I'm most worried about right now. But, yeah, there's no way he isn't in the rotation. I'd be tempted to trade him for Roberts but i don't think the Orioles would go for it-they're out to rebuild their system-MacPhail wants quantity in return for his established guys.

by bluekoolaide on Mar 20, 2008 2:52 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

You Know...

...we're supposed to get 6" of snow tomorrow?

Jacque Jones is gone, and I doubt Ivan DeJesus would mind this!

by initram on Mar 20, 2008 12:18 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Ugh.

I'm glad I'm in Arizona. Gotta get all that snow melted in 10 days!

"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al on Mar 20, 2008 12:23 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

I did not know that.

Thanks for sharing. : ) And no, I would not trade Rich Hill straight up for Brian Roberts. This whole thing has been enough of a distraction already. Go with Theriot leading off and Soriano at number two. DeRosa is our second baseman, and I say, let it be. If they trade for him, OK, but Andy the Clown has had four months to do this. If I'm the Cubs GM, I'm moving on. Play ball.

"Don't complain to me about the stormy weather, boys. Just bring the ship into port." --Steve Stone, September 2004

by ctcoff99 on Mar 20, 2008 12:23 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Well I agree

that this needs to desperately come to an end by the end of the week one way or the other, whether Roberts becomes a Cub or Hendry put's this awful mess to an end by stating publicly the deal is dead.

by lemon20pie on Mar 20, 2008 12:26 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

But....

I still say that given the way he has thrown this spring, today is a big outing for Rich Hill. If he has another bad one today, in my book he is the odd man out until he has a good showing. You want your five best guys starting. And the five best have been Z, Lilly, Leiber, Dempster, and Marquis. That being said, being demoted to the pen would probably destroy Hill's confidence, and therefore, any hope of being a quality starter again. Lieber publicly said he would not mind going to the bullpen, so does that make things easier? I don't know. Bottom line, Hill needs to get his stuff together fast. As in today.

"Don't complain to me about the stormy weather, boys. Just bring the ship into port." --Steve Stone, September 2004

by ctcoff99 on Mar 20, 2008 12:39 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Well to Hill's defense

His best pitch is his curve ball and it's really really hard to throw that pitch out here successfully. It's just too much work. You have to really overthrow it to and ofcourse that creates bad habit. My guess is that for Hill, Larry is more concerned and focused on whether or not Rich can keep his fastball down and that's been a big focus for them this Spring.

by lemon20pie on Mar 20, 2008 12:44 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Amen.

by bluekoolaide on Mar 20, 2008 2:53 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Hey, hey, hey!

It's not snow, it's snizzle.

Ladies and gentlemen, your 2008 Chicago Cubs starting outfield: Soriano-Pie-Fukudome. Let it be.

by dat cubfan daver on Mar 20, 2008 12:26 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Oh joy...

...not only is it going to dump 8 inches of this stuff, it is going to be very difficult to plow it!!

That's like a double-whammy!

Jacque Jones is gone, and I doubt Ivan DeJesus would mind this!

by initram on Mar 20, 2008 12:50 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

actually.............

6-10" now in the burbs where I am

SHITTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

by plenz on Mar 20, 2008 1:47 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Hey Al

YOu got an extra ticket today?

by lemon20pie on Mar 20, 2008 12:53 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

Sorry I didn't see this earlier.

But no, I didn't.

"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al on Mar 20, 2008 6:53 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Wood's back spasms

I understand that Wood has had back issues in the past, but does anyone else wonder if his back trouble could be related to the exertion it would take to beat the crap out of a Nissan?

Just saying.

-- Debbie Downer

This is the car, according to the Hardball blog over at chicagosports.com.

"These are the saddest of possible words: Tinker to Evers to Chance."

by bluebythebook on Mar 20, 2008 1:22 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

WOW

Thats crazy.

"Hey.....Cubs win!!!" ---Harry "I strongly dislike Steve Stone." ---Hammer

by Hammer on Mar 20, 2008 1:31 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

HAHAHAHAHAH

I was just now thinking the same thing! I was wondering if his back issues have anything to do with swinging a bat at the car!

I'm drunk......and it shows.....

by Keystone80435 on Mar 20, 2008 2:49 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Now THAT...

would be a CLASSIC Cubs injury!!

by bluekoolaide on Mar 20, 2008 2:54 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

No doubt

1st falling out of a hot tube, now injured hitting a car with a bat. Unreal haha

I'm drunk......and it shows.....

by Keystone80435 on Mar 20, 2008 2:55 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

the third injury?

Bizarre gardening accident.

"These are the saddest of possible words: Tinker to Evers to Chance."

by bluebythebook on Mar 20, 2008 5:39 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Fukudome and Concern in the same breath

I believe I tend to fall well outside the realm of the constant-worrying and overly sensitive Cubs fan when it comes to obsessing over every reported camp bump, bruise, actual injury or performance however....

Lou can paint it any way he wants to. Fukudome's performance has me concerned. Not necessarily worried but concerned. For the same token, so does Lee's. No, I wouldn't expect to see Lee's career year of 2005 any time soon, but something resembling 2007 (or better) would be nice.

I don't put a whole lot of stock in spring numbers but when they are as glaringly lacking as the numbers of both of those guys are, it may not be time to push the panic button but at least have the "concern button" at the ready.

Yes, Lee has a track record and all and Fukudome does as well half way around the world. But, I'm just saying.....

Eighty-five percent of the f*ckin' world is working. The other fifteen percent come out here. -- Lee Constantine Elia, 1983.

by krummy12 on Mar 20, 2008 1:39 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

Just sayin'

There was an interesting story I heard recently about Ichiro's first spring. I think it was on the Score or ESPN 1000 one afternoon. But, nearly everytime he came to bat, all he'd do was pull a weak groundball to the right side. After days and days of this, Lou and his staff at Seattle were worried like hell, thinking... what kind of friggin ballplayer did we just get. So, Lou somehow says to Ichiro, "Can you hit it to the opposite field at all?"
In Ichiro's next at-bat, he slapped a double to left field on like the 1st pitch. When he was questioned about it later, he said "Why give them a scouting report on me right before the start of the season?" So, he sandbagged the whole spring.

Ed Lynch is STILL on the Cubs payroll, as our D-Backs scout in Phoenix. Lynch attends all 81 D-Back home games with a notepad in hand. Really paid off for us!

by SackMan on Mar 20, 2008 2:47 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

I hate to say it...

but I think you're right on. Everybody seems to be automatically annointing Fukodome as a superstar-until he proves it though, he's just another highly touted "prospect".
Lee needs to pick up his power numbers-he had a good overall "Mark Grace" type year last season but, let's be honest, the Cubs signed him to that big contract to hit homeruns and knock runs in-last year's numbers just don't cut it. i don't know much about broken bones but could he have permanently damaged the wrist back in 2006? god, I don't want to even think about it.

by bluekoolaide on Mar 20, 2008 3:01 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

John Fay has a possible Reds lineup, and I have to say, looking at that makes me smile away any of our lineup concerns:

http://news.enquirer.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20080320/SPT04/803200332/1062/SPT

by DGU on Mar 20, 2008 1:46 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

Fukudome..

Hopefully he gets it going soon, but i think its reasonable to expect his numbers to be down to start out, considering all of the adjustments he has to make (dealing with a new culture, playing day games in the cold at Wrigley, facing MLB pitching).

by lance dickson on Mar 20, 2008 1:47 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

Understood

I'm OK with that line of thinking but to me, that sounds a bit like coddling. Yes, cultural adjustments are to be expected and climatic adjustments just the same. But he was brought over here to be a professional hitter and right now, that's not happening. Again, a lot of things change from March to June but to suggest that his struggles will magically turn into consistent production is probably not a reasonable belief.

Again, I'm not panic-stricken over any of these current "struggles" but am trying to own up to having a greater than usual sense of concern over these two guys, Fukudome in particular.

Eighty-five percent of the f*ckin' world is working. The other fifteen percent come out here. -- Lee Constantine Elia, 1983.

by krummy12 on Mar 20, 2008 1:54 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

His onbase is OK

If he hits 260 and continues to walk more than strikeout Id be happy.

"Hey.....Cubs win!!!" ---Harry "I strongly dislike Steve Stone." ---Hammer

by Hammer on Mar 20, 2008 1:58 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

I could be wrong...

but i think Ichiro struggled mightily his first spring with the Mariners, and went on to have a great season. Hopefully Fukudome follows a similar path...

by lance dickson on Mar 20, 2008 2:05 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

YOu are not wrong

Mariner fans were thinking he was gonna stink. He was late on nearly every swing and took him a bit to get used to the speed of MLB baseball, just like it's gonna take for Fuku.

by lemon20pie on Mar 20, 2008 2:07 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

I hope so too

but, unfortunately, there's only one Ichiro.

by bluekoolaide on Mar 20, 2008 3:31 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

According to the Score

Wood will pitch today. I just hope that he isn't putting pressure on himself and rushing back a day too soon.

We are all waiting for that glorious October night when we finally win it all. Until then we will continue to cheer, never do the wave and hope.

by cubstoseriesby100 on Mar 20, 2008 2:21 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

Lineups

Rox
Podsednik, CF
Torrealba, C
Baker, 1B
Spilborghs, LF
M. Giles, 2B
Stewart, 3B
Barmes, SS
Sullivan, RF
Morales, P

Cubs
Theriot, SS
Soriano, LF
Lee, 1B
Ramirez, 3B
Fukudome, CF (That's correct)
Murton, RF
DeRosa, 2B
Blanco, C
Hill, P

by Bruce Miles on Mar 20, 2008 2:25 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

Good...

I want to see him get some time in CF...I still say he's our best option when we face a tough LHP and Lou wants Pie to sit.

As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.

by santoswoodenlegs on Mar 20, 2008 2:29 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

WOW

Dome in CF? Cool.

by McRipper on Mar 20, 2008 2:29 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

just thinking...

if we did manage to get Roberts, what about Fukodome in center and DeRosa in right?

by bluekoolaide on Mar 20, 2008 3:32 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Not a bad idea

That is if Dome would be Ok with that because I know the Cubs promised him RF which sounds like the main reason why he came here.

Having said that, I'd rather have Murton in RF and Derosa at 2B and Roberts at SS. Ward hit's against Righties. That would be one hell of a lineup kids. It's fun to pretend:

Roberts
Fukudome
Lee
ARam
Soriano
Ward/Murton
Derosa
Soto

by lemon20pie on Mar 20, 2008 3:37 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Id rather have Pie in center

"Hey.....Cubs win!!!" ---Harry "I strongly dislike Steve Stone." ---Hammer

by Hammer on Mar 20, 2008 3:40 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

re: Not a bad idea

Yeah, interesting. But I thought it's been pretty firmly established that Roberts doesn't have the arm for shortstop. (Something about a surgey...?) Also, as much as I like DWaryle, I'm really hoping we never have to see him in right field this year.

Ladies and gentlemen, your 2008 Chicago Cubs starting outfield: Soriano-Pie-Fukudome. Let it be.

by dat cubfan daver on Mar 20, 2008 3:40 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

His arm couldn't be much worse than

Theriot's.

I agree with Ward not being in RF. Not sure what I was thinking.

I would have to think though, if Dome in CF today meant anything towards "the deal" (not saying it is) but I would have to assume that it meant the deal is dead. My reasoning is that right now, Dome is really the only one who could play CF on this roster besides Pie. It's obvious and rightly so, that the Cubs don't want Pie hitting against Lefties.

Not at all saying there is anything signifant like that going on, but if there was, that's what it would mean to me.

by lemon20pie on Mar 20, 2008 3:45 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Wow, Scotty Pods leading off. Interesting.

Ladies and gentlemen, your 2008 Chicago Cubs starting outfield: Soriano-Pie-Fukudome. Let it be.

by dat cubfan daver on Mar 20, 2008 2:32 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

If Dome is in CF

That must mean that Pie got traded to Baltimore :)

by lemon20pie on Mar 20, 2008 2:48 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Even with Blanco in the lineup

I have a feeling the Cubs are gonna score early and often. I say they score 12 runs today!!!
THis is a MUST win game!!!

by lemon20pie on Mar 20, 2008 2:52 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Oh my God, you're right! It's done! Roberts is a Cub! Cue the marching band!

Ladies and gentlemen, your 2008 Chicago Cubs starting outfield: Soriano-Pie-Fukudome. Let it be.

by dat cubfan daver on Mar 20, 2008 2:52 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Is this serious?

I'm drunk......and it shows.....

by Keystone80435 on Mar 20, 2008 2:53 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

That marching band is dead serious.

I am not.

Ladies and gentlemen, your 2008 Chicago Cubs starting outfield: Soriano-Pie-Fukudome. Let it be.

by dat cubfan daver on Mar 20, 2008 2:54 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

yea yea

I meant the band.

I'm drunk......and it shows.....

by Keystone80435 on Mar 20, 2008 2:54 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

the band is ALWAYS serious.

they're the band.

2008: The year we put it all together.

by drewishdrewid on Mar 20, 2008 3:09 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

I really meant the trade.....

But know i know never mess with the band. The band is always serious.;

I'm drunk......and it shows.....

by Keystone80435 on Mar 20, 2008 3:10 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Tim Buss

I apologize if this is a repeat. I thought this was really cool. Read the comments at the end of the article

http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/spring2008/news/story?id=3302755

by 1060 W Addison on Mar 20, 2008 3:01 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

No Gameday Audio on MLB.COM???

What gives!

I'm drunk......and it shows.....

by Keystone80435 on Mar 20, 2008 3:08 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

Yeah, it sucks.

In spring training, however, there are no guarantees. If you want to drive yourself insane, you could do what I'm doing -- trying to follow the game on Gameday.

Ladies and gentlemen, your 2008 Chicago Cubs starting outfield: Soriano-Pie-Fukudome. Let it be.

by dat cubfan daver on Mar 20, 2008 3:09 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

I'll have to take that chance.

I'm drunk......and it shows.....

by Keystone80435 on Mar 20, 2008 3:11 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

I have XM.....

but it's in my car. I HAVE to get a mobile unit.

I'm drunk......and it shows.....

by Keystone80435 on Mar 20, 2008 3:12 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

What Station on XM?

Jacque Jones is gone, and I doubt Ivan DeJesus would mind this!

by initram on Mar 20, 2008 3:14 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

I'm not sure....

but I thought all the ST games were on XM.

I'm drunk......and it shows.....

by Keystone80435 on Mar 20, 2008 3:15 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

If the Cubs aren't carrying this game

or the Rockies aren't carrying this game, it wouldn't be on XM either.

by lemon20pie on Mar 20, 2008 3:17 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Thanks

You just saved me a trip to my car to check.

I'm drunk......and it shows.....

by Keystone80435 on Mar 20, 2008 3:20 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

I hate my XM!

I haven't heard one G Cubs game all spring. They dooped my ass. I got XM cause ALL games "from Spring Training to the WS" are on XM.

BS!

Damn Nutrisystem...I'm freakin dyin for some Italian beef!

by Kinky Reggae on Mar 20, 2008 3:35 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

relax reLAAAXXX

Only 9 more days of torment for you. Meanwhile try channel 59 ALL Led Zep ALL the time. Or channel 202. Opie and Anthony are good for a laugh. But if XM told you they have ST and you dont have it call and complain and you'll get 3 months free.

I'm drunk......and it shows.....

by Keystone80435 on Mar 20, 2008 10:31 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

my internet

is full of eels!

2008: The year we put it all together.

by drewishdrewid on Mar 20, 2008 3:23 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Hill walks five in first inning

Podsednik, Torrealba and Baker to start the inning. Baker grounds 543 on the first pitch. Giles and Stewart walk before Barmes flies out.

by Bruce Miles on Mar 20, 2008 3:22 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

Damn!

I'm glad I'm not listening then. geeesh

I'm drunk......and it shows.....

by Keystone80435 on Mar 20, 2008 3:23 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Wow

Jacque Jones is gone, and I doubt Ivan DeJesus would mind this!

by initram on Mar 20, 2008 3:24 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

I was just noticing this on Gameday.

It almost sounds like a baseball brainteaser: Is it possible for a pitcher to walk five batters and not give up a run? YES!

Ladies and gentlemen, your 2008 Chicago Cubs starting outfield: Soriano-Pie-Fukudome. Let it be.

by dat cubfan daver on Mar 20, 2008 3:24 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Wait, check that. They did score a run.

Ladies and gentlemen, your 2008 Chicago Cubs starting outfield: Soriano-Pie-Fukudome. Let it be.

by dat cubfan daver on Mar 20, 2008 3:25 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

yikes.

2008: The year we put it all together.

by drewishdrewid on Mar 20, 2008 3:24 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Don't worry...

it's only Spring Training right?

As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.

by santoswoodenlegs on Mar 20, 2008 3:25 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Worry? Hill's on my fantasy team!!

I'm drunk......and it shows.....

by Keystone80435 on Mar 20, 2008 3:26 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

quick questino

are the Cubs planning on starting out the year with 4 starters?

Live is boring until March 31st strolls by..

by Chanman25 on Mar 20, 2008 3:24 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

NO...

Lou said that he's not going to go with 4, he wants to see who his third best starter is out of the gate.

"The one that invent the light tried 2,000 times and finally he did it, we have light...I don't want to spend 2,000 times to win Opening Day" Carlos Zambrano

by CubsBullsBears on Mar 20, 2008 3:26 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

not Rich Hill.

Maybe he gets better in a few months and he moves up?

2008: The year we put it all together.

by drewishdrewid on Mar 20, 2008 3:27 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Dare I say...

If Rich takes these kind of performances into the season, he's at risk of losing his spot to Marquis/Lieber/Dempter?

"The one that invent the light tried 2,000 times and finally he did it, we have light...I don't want to spend 2,000 times to win Opening Day" Carlos Zambrano

by CubsBullsBears on Mar 20, 2008 3:25 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

I'll tell you one thing...

He won't be able to walk 5 guys total in any start against Dusty's Reds!

As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.

by santoswoodenlegs on Mar 20, 2008 3:28 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

That would be MAJOR cloggage on the bases...

I could picture Dusty screaming "Swing the bats Dude!" from the dugout after 5 walks in an inning

"The one that invent the light tried 2,000 times and finally he did it, we have light...I don't want to spend 2,000 times to win Opening Day" Carlos Zambrano

by CubsBullsBears on Mar 20, 2008 3:40 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

"Get out there and...

...do some smart-hackin', dudes!!!"

Ladies and gentlemen, your 2008 Chicago Cubs starting outfield: Soriano-Pie-Fukudome. Let it be.

by dat cubfan daver on Mar 20, 2008 3:42 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Hill

might he be headed to the pen if no moves are made?
5 walks?
Sounds a bit Rick Ankiel...ish to me
YIKES!!
getting late even for ST for this kind of crap!!!

by plenz on Mar 20, 2008 3:28 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Its bad

But Hill is a good pitcher.

"Hey.....Cubs win!!!" ---Harry "I strongly dislike Steve Stone." ---Hammer

by Hammer on Mar 20, 2008 3:29 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

re: Hill

Well, if that's the case, maybe the Cubs can eventually platoon Hill and Soriano in left field when Alfonso gets a bit long in the tooth.

Ladies and gentlemen, your 2008 Chicago Cubs starting outfield: Soriano-Pie-Fukudome. Let it be.

by dat cubfan daver on Mar 20, 2008 3:29 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Mark Wohlers syndrom!

I'm drunk......and it shows.....

by Keystone80435 on Mar 20, 2008 3:30 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Harmless Bottom of the First...

... nothing cooking.

Well, at least Hill still has a no-hitter intact!

Jacque Jones is gone, and I doubt Ivan DeJesus would mind this!

by initram on Mar 20, 2008 3:27 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

cup half full!

I'm drunk......and it shows.....

by Keystone80435 on Mar 20, 2008 3:32 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

What the hell is going on??

I HATE GAMEDAY AND XM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1

Damn Nutrisystem...I'm freakin dyin for some Italian beef!

by Kinky Reggae on Mar 20, 2008 3:40 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

I know. Gameday has stopped dead.

It's makin' me really nervous.

Ladies and gentlemen, your 2008 Chicago Cubs starting outfield: Soriano-Pie-Fukudome. Let it be.

by dat cubfan daver on Mar 20, 2008 3:41 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

I'm not so nervous

I am sure they are losing .

Damn Nutrisystem...I'm freakin dyin for some Italian beef!

by Kinky Reggae on Mar 20, 2008 3:41 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

3-0 per Yahoo!

"The one that invent the light tried 2,000 times and finally he did it, we have light...I don't want to spend 2,000 times to win Opening Day" Carlos Zambrano

by CubsBullsBears on Mar 20, 2008 3:41 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

Sigh...I knew it.

Ladies and gentlemen, your 2008 Chicago Cubs starting outfield: Soriano-Pie-Fukudome. Let it be.

by dat cubfan daver on Mar 20, 2008 3:43 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Another bad inning

Hill walks Sullivan. Morales strikes out. Podsednik reaches on E5 (throw). Hill throws pickoff attempt away for E1. Torrealba doubles. Lahey relieves Hill and gets two outs. Hill threw 49 pitches, 19 strikes.

by Bruce Miles on Mar 20, 2008 3:43 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

Wow...

I know breaking pitches don't break that much in Arizona, but THIS bad?

"The one that invent the light tried 2,000 times and finally he did it, we have light...I don't want to spend 2,000 times to win Opening Day" Carlos Zambrano

by CubsBullsBears on Mar 20, 2008 3:44 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Brutal Bruce!

Is Hill moving to the pen or what?

This guy can't get outs.

Damn Nutrisystem...I'm freakin dyin for some Italian beef!

by Kinky Reggae on Mar 20, 2008 3:44 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Because

Because spring training does mean everything. What a guy did last year means nothing. Spring means everything.

Glad you aren't lou.

We are all waiting for that glorious October night when we finally win it all. Until then we will continue to cheer, never do the wave and hope.

by cubstoseriesby100 on Mar 20, 2008 3:47 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Glad I'm not Lou too..

then I'd have to kick dirt all over you for being you. What is this ST doesn't mean anything crap?????

I understand that it is not regular season but we are awfully damn close to have 5 walks in the 1st...wouldn't you say so genius?

Damn Nutrisystem...I'm freakin dyin for some Italian beef!

by Kinky Reggae on Mar 20, 2008 3:49 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Thank you so much for the updates Bruce!!!

How 'bout some good news next update though.

by lemon20pie on Mar 20, 2008 3:47 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Hill kinda sucks ass this spring huh?

I can only imagine how annoyed Lou must be by now.

Damn Nutrisystem...I'm freakin dyin for some Italian beef!

by Kinky Reggae on Mar 20, 2008 3:44 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

Luckily for Hill and the Cubs

Luckily for Hill and the Cubs Lou knows Hill is a good pitcher who is having a bad spring and is not going to go nilly willy panicking like some dumb butt media.

We are all waiting for that glorious October night when we finally win it all. Until then we will continue to cheer, never do the wave and hope.

by cubstoseriesby100 on Mar 20, 2008 3:44 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

But...

If he pulls this crap come April, in consecutive starts, I could see him put his nilly willy ass in the pen in favor of someone else

"The one that invent the light tried 2,000 times and finally he did it, we have light...I don't want to spend 2,000 times to win Opening Day" Carlos Zambrano

by CubsBullsBears on Mar 20, 2008 3:46 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

word

I'm drunk......and it shows.....

by Keystone80435 on Mar 20, 2008 3:46 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Don't you mean "willy nilly"?

Ladies and gentlemen, your 2008 Chicago Cubs starting outfield: Soriano-Pie-Fukudome. Let it be.

by dat cubfan daver on Mar 20, 2008 3:46 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

What the hell did you just say??

I do not understand "dumb butt"?

"nilly willy"?

Hill is stinkin up the joint no matter how you look at it. He better get it together soon.

Damn Nutrisystem...I'm freakin dyin for some Italian beef!

by Kinky Reggae on Mar 20, 2008 3:46 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Yeah, what's a "dumb butt media" anyway?

Is that anything like a "dumb butt medium"? Y'know, like a psychic who gets everything wrong?

Ladies and gentlemen, your 2008 Chicago Cubs starting outfield: Soriano-Pie-Fukudome. Let it be.

by dat cubfan daver on Mar 20, 2008 3:48 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

He's a dumb butt media...

"The one that invent the light tried 2,000 times and finally he did it, we have light...I don't want to spend 2,000 times to win Opening Day" Carlos Zambrano

by CubsBullsBears on Mar 20, 2008 3:51 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Nice!!!!

Damn Nutrisystem...I'm freakin dyin for some Italian beef!

by Kinky Reggae on Mar 20, 2008 3:52 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

AH!

Every time I see his stupid, cocky little smirk on Horn it makes me sick.

The Time Is Now. [Chicago Cubs, '08]

by EJThunder on Mar 20, 2008 6:43 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

The walks...

The walks are major. At least Lieber gave up hits. Walks are a different story.

I'm drunk......and it shows.....

by Keystone80435 on Mar 20, 2008 3:48 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Lou

As someone who knows a thing about the game Lou will base his decision on 2007 not a bad spring.

The fans and the dumb butts in the media will blow everything out of proportion.

Bruce is about the only one who won't have a hyper diaper.

We are all waiting for that glorious October night when we finally win it all. Until then we will continue to cheer, never do the wave and hope.

by cubstoseriesby100 on Mar 20, 2008 3:50 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

I suppose...

Les Walrond is headed north with the team now.

As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.

by santoswoodenlegs on Mar 20, 2008 3:45 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

Why are people insulting Lou here?

Anyone saying Lou will send Hill to the pen is really insulting his intelligence.

We are all waiting for that glorious October night when we finally win it all. Until then we will continue to cheer, never do the wave and hope.

by cubstoseriesby100 on Mar 20, 2008 3:48 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

Waitaminute...

...Gameday says Josh Kroeger replaced Rich Hill. Could that possibly be right?

Ladies and gentlemen, your 2008 Chicago Cubs starting outfield: Soriano-Pie-Fukudome. Let it be.

by dat cubfan daver on Mar 20, 2008 3:50 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

Shall we insult your intelligence?

Damn Nutrisystem...I'm freakin dyin for some Italian beef!

by Kinky Reggae on Mar 20, 2008 3:50 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

3-3!!!

Hank White 2-run shot!

"The one that invent the light tried 2,000 times and finally he did it, we have light...I don't want to spend 2,000 times to win Opening Day" Carlos Zambrano

by CubsBullsBears on Mar 20, 2008 3:52 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

Awwww, yeah!

Hank up in this hizzy!

Ladies and gentlemen, your 2008 Chicago Cubs starting outfield: Soriano-Pie-Fukudome. Let it be.

by dat cubfan daver on Mar 20, 2008 3:53 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Makes sense...

Hill can't pitch a lick...and Blanco shows real hitting ability.

As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.

by santoswoodenlegs on Mar 20, 2008 3:53 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

OK

Henry Blanco does not normally hit home runs and Rich Hill does not normally walk 5 people an inning so get away from the

"Hey.....Cubs win!!!" ---Harry "I strongly dislike Steve Stone." ---Hammer

by Hammer on Mar 20, 2008 3:54 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

where did the other run

come from?

2008: The year we put it all together.

by drewishdrewid on Mar 20, 2008 3:59 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Before

everyone here decides that hill needs to be kicked out of the rotation, why dont we see how he does in the regular season first.

"Chicago Cubs fans are ninety percent scar tissue" - George F. Will

by tizzle on Mar 20, 2008 3:53 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

Ten days

aint far away. If Hill comes into the season pitching like this...what is your suggestion?

Damn Nutrisystem...I'm freakin dyin for some Italian beef!

by Kinky Reggae on Mar 20, 2008 3:56 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

worry

about that when or if it happens. at this point i still trust hill over dempster

"Chicago Cubs fans are ninety percent scar tissue" - George F. Will

by tizzle on Mar 20, 2008 3:58 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

I suppose

as of late, Demp appears more reliable.

Damn Nutrisystem...I'm freakin dyin for some Italian beef!

by Kinky Reggae on Mar 20, 2008 4:07 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

I agree...

But IF he stinks his first couple of starts, we do have other options.

"The one that invent the light tried 2,000 times and finally he did it, we have light...I don't want to spend 2,000 times to win Opening Day" Carlos Zambrano

by CubsBullsBears on Mar 20, 2008 3:57 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Theres always other options, but if those options were any good thats what the Cubbies would be implementing right now.

I'm drunk......and it shows.....

by Keystone80435 on Mar 20, 2008 4:13 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

cripes

that's all I gots to say.

2008: The year we put it all together.

by drewishdrewid on Mar 20, 2008 3:53 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

I'm still confused...

...did Kroeger really come in to pitch? I thought he was an outfielder.

Ladies and gentlemen, your 2008 Chicago Cubs starting outfield: Soriano-Pie-Fukudome. Let it be.

by dat cubfan daver on Mar 20, 2008 3:55 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

Lahey relieved him per Bruuuuuuuuuuuuce!

Damn Nutrisystem...I'm freakin dyin for some Italian beef!

by Kinky Reggae on Mar 20, 2008 3:55 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

According to Bruce Miles

Lahey replaced Hill. Kroeger would not come into pitch, if he ever came in at all.

by lemon20pie on Mar 20, 2008 3:56 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Lahey replaced Hill

Lahey got a couple quick outs, but now a 2-run HR to Ian Stewart inthe third. Hill had 6 walks today and has 14 for the spring after walking no one last spring.

by Bruce Miles on Mar 20, 2008 3:56 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

OK, thanks, Bruce!

I thought maybe Lou pulled a TLR. Didn't LaRussa put Spiezio in to pitch once last season?

Ladies and gentlemen, your 2008 Chicago Cubs starting outfield: Soriano-Pie-Fukudome. Let it be.

by dat cubfan daver on Mar 20, 2008 3:58 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Hopefully he's not still shellshocked

by his giant turd he laid out on the mound last season against the DBacks. I've never thought of Hill as being mentally tough.

by lemon20pie on Mar 20, 2008 3:59 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

would it wear on him that long?

That's a long time to carry around a giant mental turd...

2008: The year we put it all together.

by drewishdrewid on Mar 20, 2008 4:05 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

6 walks!

Doesn't it come to a point where ya kinda float the ball in there to put it in play rather than continue to throw balls? I'm a little worried about 6 walks. 3 walks is ok but 6 is on the high side. How long was Hill in?

I'm drunk......and it shows.....

by Keystone80435 on Mar 20, 2008 4:02 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Don't think he finished 2 IP

He had 5 walks in the 1st inning.

by lemon20pie on Mar 20, 2008 4:03 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Says

1.1 innings Good greif.

Chi Cubs IP H R ER BB SO HR ERA
Hill, R 1.1 1 3 2 6 1 0 7.11

I'm drunk......and it shows.....

by Keystone80435 on Mar 20, 2008 4:05 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Well it still is only Spring Training

And I'd be curious to read some comments after the game. It's entirely possible that he was working on a certain pitch, maybe a change up and that's what Spring Training is for.

The discouraging thing is, you can make all the excuses you want about his curve not breaking in AZ or like I mentioned he was working on another pitch but having said that,there had to be a time when he was throwing fastballs and he obviously couldn't throw that for a strike. Also, I'm sure Lou wanted him to reach atleast 60+ pitches today.

He has one more start left (maybe 2?) and if he struggles then, the fact that he will be heading into the regular season and not stretching himself out, then that could effect his start of the season.

THat's really the only thing that concerns me right now. He hasn't been able to strengthen his arm with these bad outings.

by lemon20pie on Mar 20, 2008 4:17 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Now this is interesting...

is it at all possible that Hill is now your long man out of the bullpen to start the season, so as to give him a chance to work out his issues?

by Damen Jackson on Mar 20, 2008 4:19 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

That's an interesting assessment

I think it certainly could be possible. Especially if he has another short outing especially.

by lemon20pie on Mar 20, 2008 4:26 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

I heard that Lou...

would be making his rotation selection by end of tomorrow, at latest. I think he's seen enough at this point.

by Damen Jackson on Mar 20, 2008 4:30 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Or if he has another short outing

He starts the year in Iowa and starts. He does have 1 option left.

ANother thing to consider, is he developed a blister last time out and maybe he reopened it. If that's the case, then you can bet he'll start the year on the DL and head to Iowa.

by lemon20pie on Mar 20, 2008 4:36 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

The Cubs

changed Hill delievery to speed it up this spring. It seems like his new delievery is causing him to have bad control. If this continues the Cubs need to just let Hill pitch the way he did last season, I wouldn't be surprised if they do after this game.

by cubsfan25 on Mar 20, 2008 4:36 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Yeah...

I've caught a bit of that in games. However, his starts have been short, so you probably will want to stretch him out a bit. And you can't just flip the switch on that sort of change. You'll need a couple of appearances at least to smooth that out. So, I think there are some real concerns there about his readiness to start the season.

by Damen Jackson on Mar 20, 2008 4:41 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

BTW

Does anyone happen to have my PECOTA for Hill I had in my sig? I lost it with the BCB update. Only thing I remember for sure was I had his ERA at 4.25.

by lemon20pie on Mar 20, 2008 4:02 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

5-4 end of third...

"The one that invent the light tried 2,000 times and finally he did it, we have light...I don't want to spend 2,000 times to win Opening Day" Carlos Zambrano

by CubsBullsBears on Mar 20, 2008 4:15 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

How Did We Get The 4th Run?

Jacque Jones is gone, and I doubt Ivan DeJesus would mind this!

by initram on Mar 20, 2008 4:17 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Later everyone

GO CUBS!!

I'm drunk......and it shows.....

by Keystone80435 on Mar 20, 2008 4:16 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

No idea...

I'm just looking at the generic score on Yahoo!

"The one that invent the light tried 2,000 times and finally he did it, we have light...I don't want to spend 2,000 times to win Opening Day" Carlos Zambrano

by CubsBullsBears on Mar 20, 2008 4:18 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

Looks Like TheRiot Scored...

...on a wild pitch ball four to D.Lee.

Jacque Jones is gone, and I doubt Ivan DeJesus would mind this!

by initram on Mar 20, 2008 4:21 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Hey...

at least Hill didn't throw any WPs!

As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.

by santoswoodenlegs on Mar 20, 2008 4:22 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Enter Kerry Wood??

Jacque Jones is gone, and I doubt Ivan DeJesus would mind this!

by initram on Mar 20, 2008 4:22 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

Wow!

Looks like it.

by sue369 on Mar 20, 2008 4:23 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

time to shine for real!

2008: The year we put it all together.

by drewishdrewid on Mar 20, 2008 4:24 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Woody gives up a run...

...single, sb, ground out, strike out, double, strike out.

Jacque Jones is gone, and I doubt Ivan DeJesus would mind this!

by initram on Mar 20, 2008 4:32 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Hm, not the best of results...

...but not the worst either, I suppose. Of course, if he'd entered the game in the ninth inning with a one-run lead, I may not be saying that. Aw, hell, give him the job anyway.

Ladies and gentlemen, your 2008 Chicago Cubs starting outfield: Soriano-Pie-Fukudome. Let it be.

by dat cubfan daver on Mar 20, 2008 4:33 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

two strike-outs, tho

who hit the double, and was it a clear double, or one of those quirky doubles?

2008: The year we put it all together.

by drewishdrewid on Mar 20, 2008 4:37 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

I know that I'll be flamed for saying this,

but I'm going to say it anyway.

The Cubs will not win the NL Central unless at least one of two things occurs:
1. The Cubs anounce, no later than Monday 24 Mar, that they are no longer pursuing a "speedy leadoff hitter" (Roberts, Crisp, or anyone else), and/or
2. Lou Piniella resigns or is fired.

A manager's job is to get the most wins possible with the talent he has been given. That talent?
1. 4 legitimate, in-their-prime superstars (Sori, DLee, Ramy, Z).
2. 7 healthy, ML-proven SPs (think the 'Stros would like one?)
3. 3 legitimate closer candidates (think the Phillies would like one?)
4. A 6-deep bullpen (Wood, Howry, Marmol, Eyre, Wuertz, Hart)
5. 3 legitimate 30 HR candidates (Sori, DLee, Ramy)
6. Adequate or better defense at every position (how good might the Brewers have been last year with better D?)
7. 2 classic Francona-style table-setters (Dome, DeRo)
8. A top-notch PH (Ward)
9. An NL Central title to build upon

What has Lou done all winter and spring? Complain about not having a "speedy leadoff hitter".

Lou, SHUT UP AND MANAGE!!!!!

The only thing Lou has done this spring is to imply that the defending division champions have no chance to repeat without a "speedy leadoff hitter". Lou, you won the division last year without a "speedy leadoff hitter" -- just to prove that it can be done.

Doug Moe, after losing star forward Calvin Natt to a ruptured achilles tendon, was asked by reporters what he was going to do without Natt. Moe replied, "Do not mention Calvin Natt's name for the rest of the season. He is not here, and he won't be here. We will find a way to win without him." Yes, the Nuggets made the playoffs without him, and the Cubs can make the playoffs without Brian Roberts.

The thing that has to change is Lou's attitude, not the Cubs' 2B.

(/sermon)

"I've never complained about it. I'm thankful to have a jersey." Mark DeRosa, 22 Aug 2007

by DeRoMyHero on Mar 20, 2008 4:32 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

Feel better?

And how long were you working on that post before you actually put it up?

Ladies and gentlemen, your 2008 Chicago Cubs starting outfield: Soriano-Pie-Fukudome. Let it be.

by dat cubfan daver on Mar 20, 2008 4:34 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Feel much better

Composed it during my morning run.

"I've never complained about it. I'm thankful to have a jersey." Mark DeRosa, 22 Aug 2007

by DeRoMyHero on Mar 20, 2008 4:39 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Did you fall...

...and hit your head?

"I don't like them fellas that drive in two runs but let in three" Casey Stengel

by MPH73 on Mar 20, 2008 7:15 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

I agree with the conclusion you make

although I guess I didn't think that Lou wasn't doing anything other than sitting around and complaining...

2008: The year we put it all together.

by drewishdrewid on Mar 20, 2008 4:36 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Right

The Cubs won't win because Lou made a couple of comments that he'd like a leadoff hitter.

Right.

We are all waiting for that glorious October night when we finally win it all. Until then we will continue to cheer, never do the wave and hope.

by cubstoseriesby100 on Mar 20, 2008 4:39 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Not Lou's fault

One way or the other this whole B.Ro trade talks should be put to rest very soon. I think the team morale gets a beating when a trade scenario brews for this long. This has even overshadowed the fact that this will be year 100 for the cubs without a WS.

by cubsnlinux on Mar 20, 2008 4:53 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

hopefully

because it won't be.

2008: The year we put it all together.

by drewishdrewid on Mar 20, 2008 4:53 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

well DeRo

that is truly one of the dumbest posts ever. Let me guess, you would make a great manager, but you are just being overlooked. What a silly post.

by cubswin on Mar 20, 2008 5:47 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Lou saying what he wants

Lou saying he wants a leadoff hitter has ABSOLUTELY NO IMPACT on the wins and losses this team does.

We are all waiting for that glorious October night when we finally win it all. Until then we will continue to cheer, never do the wave and hope.

by cubstoseriesby100 on Mar 20, 2008 4:35 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

"...the wins and losses this team does."

My English teacher just rolled over in his grave. Or in his La-Z-Boy at the retirement home, one or the other.

Ladies and gentlemen, your 2008 Chicago Cubs starting outfield: Soriano-Pie-Fukudome. Let it be.

by dat cubfan daver on Mar 20, 2008 4:37 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Typical

Typical attacks the poster doesn't address the comment.

We are all waiting for that glorious October night when we finally win it all. Until then we will continue to cheer, never do the wave and hope.

by cubstoseriesby100 on Mar 20, 2008 4:38 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

I was actually attacking your grammar...

...or perhaps lack of punctuation? I honestly can't tell. In any case, you seem to be taking any criticism of Lou way too personally, and I think you need to settle down.

Ladies and gentlemen, your 2008 Chicago Cubs starting outfield: Soriano-Pie-Fukudome. Let it be.

by dat cubfan daver on Mar 20, 2008 4:40 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

I'm not attacking

I said before Lou isn't stupid enough to remove Hill out of the rotation and anyone who thinks he is is insulting him.

And I'm more referring to the silly idea the manager making comments means wins and losses.

We are all waiting for that glorious October night when we finally win it all. Until then we will continue to cheer, never do the wave and hope.

by cubstoseriesby100 on Mar 20, 2008 4:41 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

I didn't say you were attacking.

And I wouldn't be so sure about that. If Hill is struggling to develop a pitch (or maybe that blister is getting worse), and Marquis can't be traded, I could actually see Rich being sent down temporarily. It would be a pretty shocking development, but it's not out of the question.

Ladies and gentlemen, your 2008 Chicago Cubs starting outfield: Soriano-Pie-Fukudome. Let it be.

by dat cubfan daver on Mar 20, 2008 4:48 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Who thinks

Who thinks Al is going to get tired of seeing most of KOW's posts flagged?

by LT on Mar 20, 2008 5:34 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

so...

what's happening on the field? Anyone know?

2008: The year we put it all together.

by drewishdrewid on Mar 20, 2008 4:42 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

Awww man...

...Hank White was picked off first. He wasn't seriously considering running, was he? And now here comes Neil Cotts. Maybe he'll do better against a team that isn't the White Sox.

Ladies and gentlemen, your 2008 Chicago Cubs starting outfield: Soriano-Pie-Fukudome. Let it be.

by dat cubfan daver on Mar 20, 2008 4:43 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

ooooh.... COTTS!

my cup runneth over.

2008: The year we put it all together.

by drewishdrewid on Mar 20, 2008 4:44 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Huh?

Cotts did not give up a run? wow!

by lance dickson on Mar 20, 2008 4:52 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

Off Topic: Google Calendar

I just set up my Google Calendar and you can get the Cubs schedule with TV info. It's pretty cool.

"Cubs Win!!"

by northofwrigley on Mar 20, 2008 4:57 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

oooh, how?

2008: The year we put it all together.

by drewishdrewid on Mar 20, 2008 4:59 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

In Google Calendar Search Public Calendars and just put in something like Cubs Schedule and then add it to your calendar.

"Cubs Win!!"

by northofwrigley on Mar 20, 2008 5:09 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

sawheeeet!

freakin' awesome!

2008: The year we put it all together.

by drewishdrewid on Mar 20, 2008 5:54 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

It Worked Pretty Well...

... you can also e-mail the person if there is something wrong (e.g., there are schedule changes... augment for the playoffs, etc.)

Jacque Jones is gone, and I doubt Ivan DeJesus would mind this!

by initram on Mar 20, 2008 6:16 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

That's great!

Just set mine up. - TL

"Why shouldn't we believe that we're going to win the World Series?" - Ted Lilly, 1/19/2008, Daily Herald interview w/Barry Rozner

by timlacy on Mar 20, 2008 7:12 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

hey thanks!

I love Google Calendar.

BTW, how did the Cubs tie the game?

by zevkalman on Mar 20, 2008 4:59 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

like so..

Bottom Half
B:0 S:0 O:0 - Geovany Soto singles on a fly ball to left fielder Ryan Spilborghs.
B:0 S:0 O:1 - Ryan Theriot flies out to right fielder Cory Sullivan.
B:0 S:0 O:1 - Alfonso Soriano doubles (1) on a line drive to left fielder Ryan Spilborghs. Geovany Soto to 3rd.
B:0 S:0 O:2 - Derrek Lee out on a sacrifice fly to right fielder Cory Sullivan. Geovany Soto scores. Alfonso Soriano to 3rd.
B:0 S:0 O:2 - Aramis Ramirez singles on a fly ball to left fielder Ryan Spilborghs. Alfonso Soriano scores.
B:0 S:0 O:3 - Kosuke Fukudome grounds out, third baseman Ian Stewart to first baseman Jeff Baker.

As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.

by santoswoodenlegs on Mar 20, 2008 5:01 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

thanks!

by zevkalman on Mar 20, 2008 5:03 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Dude

you're avatar is freaking hilarious. I laugh inside everytime I see a post of yours

"We are going to light up the SB Nation server farm like a Christmas tree." - cwyers

by NittanyCub on Mar 20, 2008 5:07 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

ah,

your*

"We are going to light up the SB Nation server farm like a Christmas tree." - cwyers

by NittanyCub on Mar 20, 2008 5:07 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Thanks...

I like it so much...I've made it my Desktop Wallpaper!

As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.

by santoswoodenlegs on Mar 20, 2008 5:16 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

delicious

I'm drunk......and it shows.....

by Keystone80435 on Mar 20, 2008 6:16 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Hil......ugh!!!

Hill could'nt keep my great grandmother close and she has'nt moved in 38 years...... have you ever seen a worse move for a left hander? A walk turns into a double faster for him than a rosey Iraq update from W !!!!

by James031 on Mar 20, 2008 5:18 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

The offense is at least trying...

Bottom Half
B:0 S:0 O:0 - Defensive Substitution: Mike Rose replaces catcher Yorvit Torrealba, batting 2nd, playing catcher.
B:0 S:0 O:0 - Pitcher Change: Manny Corpas replaces Franklin Morales, batting 9th.
B:0 S:0 O:0 - Matt Murton doubles (2) on a fly ball to left fielder Ryan Spilborghs.
B:0 S:0 O:1 - Mark DeRosa out on a sacrifice bunt, third baseman Ian Stewart to first baseman Jeff Baker. Matt Murton to 3rd.
B:0 S:0 O:1 - Offensive Substitution: Pinch hitter Daryle Ward replaces Neal Cotts.
B:0 S:0 O:1 - Daryle Ward singles on a ground ball to center fielder Scott Podsednik. Matt Murton scores.
B:0 S:0 O:1 - Offensive Substitution: Pinch runner Mike Fontenot replaces Daryle Ward.
B:0 S:0 O:1 - Casey McGehee singles on a line drive to center fielder Scott Podsednik. Mike Fontenot to 2nd.
B:0 S:0 O:1 - Ryan Theriot singles on a line drive to right fielder Cory Sullivan. Mike Fontenot scores. Casey McGehee to 2nd.
B:0 S:0 O:3 - Alfonso Soriano grounds into double play, shortstop Clint Barmes to second baseman Marcus Giles to first baseman Jeff Baker. Ryan Theriot out at 2nd.

As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.

by santoswoodenlegs on Mar 20, 2008 5:26 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

well, I'm certainly happy

to return to an 8-6 ball game! Go Cubs!

2008: The year we put it all together.

by drewishdrewid on Mar 20, 2008 5:56 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

Fukudome struck out three times?

Ouch. Think the guys are short-sheeting his bed?

2008: The year we put it all together.

by drewishdrewid on Mar 20, 2008 5:57 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

Marmol or Howry....

Coming in for the save?

"The one that invent the light tried 2,000 times and finally he did it, we have light...I don't want to spend 2,000 times to win Opening Day" Carlos Zambrano

by CubsBullsBears on Mar 20, 2008 6:12 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

Wuertz...

Jacque Jones is gone, and I doubt Ivan DeJesus would mind this!

by initram on Mar 20, 2008 6:16 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

yeah, what's goin' on?

GD is clogging up the intarnertz again...

2008: The year we put it all together.

by drewishdrewid on Mar 20, 2008 6:13 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

who is Geoffry Jones?

2008: The year we put it all together.

by drewishdrewid on Mar 20, 2008 6:14 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

Looks like it'll be Wuertz...

Darkhorse candidate?

"The one that invent the light tried 2,000 times and finally he did it, we have light...I don't want to spend 2,000 times to win Opening Day" Carlos Zambrano

by CubsBullsBears on Mar 20, 2008 6:17 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

NOOOOOOOOO!

I'm drunk......and it shows.....

by Keystone80435 on Mar 20, 2008 6:17 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Between Wuertz and Ohman I lost half my hair and gained 20 lbs chewing my fingernails last year. I DO NOT want him as a candidate for anything but middle man.

I'm drunk......and it shows.....

by Keystone80435 on Mar 20, 2008 6:19 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Huh?

Wuertz appeared in 73 games last season and was only charged with three losses. His ERA was a nice and tidy 3.48. He was one of the top relievers in baseball in stranding inherited runners.

I has a blog.

by cwyers on Mar 20, 2008 6:30 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

I take that back.

yea, you're right. I think I have bad memories of Wuertz becuase he always came in after Ohman fouled stuff up. Guilty by association...

I'm drunk......and it shows.....

by Keystone80435 on Mar 20, 2008 6:43 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

The only guy that you should have lost hair over...

was definitely Ohman.

He sure did a great job.... ESPECIALLY against lefties!

(obvious sarcasm)

The Time Is Now. [Chicago Cubs, '08]

by EJThunder on Mar 20, 2008 6:40 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Nah.

Kerry got his kicks in.

2008: The year we put it all together.

by drewishdrewid on Mar 20, 2008 6:19 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Glad Wood got in today...

I bet he'll think twice before bashing in a car with a bat next time. haha

I'm drunk......and it shows.....

by Keystone80435 on Mar 20, 2008 6:20 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Game over!

2K's...not bad

"The one that invent the light tried 2,000 times and finally he did it, we have light...I don't want to spend 2,000 times to win Opening Day" Carlos Zambrano

by CubsBullsBears on Mar 20, 2008 6:20 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

Alright!

Gott alove the comeback win.

I'm drunk......and it shows.....

by Keystone80435 on Mar 20, 2008 6:21 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

That's the game!

Cubs win, 8-6

2008: The year we put it all together.

by drewishdrewid on Mar 20, 2008 6:20 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

I was really disappointed

to see Hill give up all those walks and disappointed to see the Cubs trainling so early. BUT after thinking about it I was kinda happy. Happy that the Cubs were in a grind/comeback situation. You can't pratice that. I think it's good for them to be able to practice what they'll do in come-from-behind situations. So today was good not only for the win but the practice of falling behind and the starter/Hill having major trouble so early. Give the team confidence to win a game like that and pick up Hill. IMO

I'm drunk......and it shows.....

by Keystone80435 on Mar 20, 2008 6:24 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

And I forgot to add...

Murton had another solid day. 2 hits and 2 runs. I'm still pulling for him even though I know his future is bleek.

I'm drunk......and it shows.....

by Keystone80435 on Mar 20, 2008 6:27 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

by cubs ftw on Mar 20, 2008 6:27 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

I missed Blanco's HR

by a couple feet! Arrrggg It went right by Al's head.

"WGN, Channel 9 Cubs Baseball, Excitingly, Importantly, Dramatically Yours." - Jack Brickhouse

by BigJohnAZ on Mar 20, 2008 7:05 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

That's funny!!

Did it go over the little fence there?

Good thing I wasn't out there again today as I probably would've stepped on someone's bare feet again going for it like I did last time I was out there!

Athough, I wouldn't have felt as bad if it was yours or Al's as I did last time when it was an 72 year old lady.

by lemon20pie on Mar 20, 2008 7:18 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs