Open Thread: Cubs vs. White Sox, Saturday 3/22, 3:05 CT
by Al Yellon on Mar 22, 2008 10:02 AM CDT
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PrintSCOTTSDALE, Arizona -- Some local weather forecasters predict that today, the Valley will register its first 90-degree temperature of 2008.
Yes, I know many of you in the Chicago area are buried under up to 11 inches of snow. So let's think warm thoughts and talk baseball.
I posted a couple of articles you may not have seen last night in the thread just below this one. The only thing to update information there is Bruce Miles' article in the Daily Herald this morning, in which he says that Lou may tinker with the lineup for a few more days, but once the Cubs get to Vegas next Friday, he wants to have everything set.
This article is mostly about the White Sox, but I'm posting it for this quote from Kenny Williams, a cogent analysis of trading:
"But it takes two to tango, and there's nothing you can do about it," Williams said. "You give your own assessment of your own team and you picture matchups in your head and you think there might be a need elsewhere.
"But in their minds, they would rather go in a different direction, whether it be for talent purposes or economic purposes or both."
That applies to the Cubs, too (or any other team, for that matter). We can debate trades here endlessly, and I'm sure Jim Hendry has been on his cellphone constantly discussing various possibilities. But there are many other factors involved in making a trade other than saying, "Hey, we want this guy."
Ted Lilly will start for the Cubs this afternoon. He'll face Javier Vazquez. Don't expect to see Kerry Wood today -- his back-to-back outings are going to be tomorrow and Monday. Today's game is on WGN radio -- no TV. It's also on XM, channel 181, and at the MLB.com Mediacenter.
Discuss amongst yourselves.
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That's a great quote
from KW, even if it's only a clarification of the obvious. Perhaps it took him a lot less time to get fed up with MacPhail and Angelos.
Javy Vasquez has been throwing darts this spring. It'll be interesting to see how the Cubs manage against him.
"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07
Not so obvious when reading some postings here
You can find posts about how bad Hendry is for not acquiring Bedard, Santana, Greene, Roberts, Crisp and numerous others. Some seem to think that Hendry just has to call these teams and request the players and voila, they are Cubs.
Too true.
n/t
"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07
by gary varsho on Mar 22, 2008 11:14 AM CDT up reply actions
I think you are right....
...it is unreasonable to expect the Cubs (or any team) to go after and acquire what is perceived to be every great player that's available. It is unrealistic to expect that type of approach, maybe even silly.
The truth in the criticism may be that the Cubs do not have the quality and depth in their organization to make even the moves that they think would be solid. Or the Cubs may not place as high a value on certain things as other teams.
The Cubs have been making improvements under Hendry, no question. Even with the lack of position player talent in the farm system, they have offset it with above average pitching depth. I like the Fukudome signing and that he'll apparently hit 2 or 1 and that tells me that someone in this organization is finally addressing their woeful OBP in the 1&2 slots. I think it is a reasonable criticism of Hendry that he's either deferred to his manager or just not been persuaded as to the value of not giving away outs at ridiculous rates at the top of the lineup. I am glad that they are willing to use Fukudome to address this problem area.
The roster dictates at least one additional signifcant move to me. Deals get done all of the time, it isn't as hard or as easy as portrayed to get what you need. The Cubs have pitching depth and perhaps two interesting develpomental position players. The Cubs need more star quality players (who doesn't). It's hard to leap to that next level, you need the budget and you need the minor league depth. I don't know if the Cubs have the stomach for the cash required given the onwership transition and they may not have the roster talent to offer? But the roster situation dictates another major move and if pitching is over valued we should get a decent position player in return. The latter type of deal is what Hendry gets paid to do and it's certainly within his capabilities unless onwership has now dictated salary dump v. go for the flag. Still, I wouldn't mind if we traded pitching depth for overall organization depth, even with 100 years of losing you still need a plan for the future.
Finally, under new onwership I'd love to see a Theo Epstein type run the Cubs. I don't hate Hendry (overall he's doing a decent job), but I'd like to see the Cubs have the best and brightest at the top with a plan that the entire organization implements. I don't have much hope for it as I expect the new owners will be insiders who have no intention of spending on player D and every intention on milking that taxpayer subsidy, extracting as much from the team for 3-5 years and selling it for beaucoup gggggrrrrrrr.....
Question(s)
Just out of curiosity. Could the Cubs get/afford any player they want right now? Do the Cubs have piles of cash in the bank to pay top 10 player money? Do they have the players available that are quality and expendable to make a trade later in the year?
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I think the Cubs...
... DO have enough money to add a player at the trading deadline. What do you mean by "top 10 player"? What sorts of players like that are even available right now?
"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx
No player in particular.
Just wondering if they had available what it would take to sign an A-Rod or Hanley Ramirez...Holliday..Utley..Santana ..Bedard. Not saying they need to, and like you said the market is closed on guys like these for now, just wondering if they could. Or is the bankroll already spent on Soriano, Z and Dome.
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by Keystone80435 on Mar 22, 2008 11:00 AM CDT up reply actions
It's probably too soon to answer
A lot will depend on what a lot of the younger players do. If Soto, Pie, Theriot, Hill, Gallagher, Marmol etc. show enough to hold down positions full time then that is a lot of cheap players under Cubs control for quite a few years. If that is the case then yes the Cubs could get another really high priced player. However, if the Cubs are having to hit the market to fill a lot of gaps, it might be a little tougher.
I guess what I'm asking is could the Cubs pull of a blockbuster deal before the deadline if they needed to fill a void with an All-Star and sign them for a multi year deal. I guess the better question is 'would they' not 'could they'.
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by Keystone80435 on Mar 22, 2008 11:03 AM CDT up reply actions
The answer is partially given by Kenny Williams
The Cubs can probably trade for a big name player (they should have the $ for it), but the team trading has to want what the Cubs might offer. In the case of Brian Roberts, the Cubs are helped by the weak demand in the 2B market. But with Erik Bedard, there was larger demand and the Cubs couldn't offer a trade package that matched what Seattle could give. Then, in the case of Santana, the Cubs could have matched what the Mets offered (if MN had liked the Cubs offerings as much), but Santana only wanted to go to the East Coast. So there are a lot of factors that play into these things.
In general, the Cubs have $ room and the Cubs have pieces to trade. The Cubs' farm system has valuable pieces, but no top of the line prospects in it at this time. Things could change by the trading deadline, but if not one of our prospects takes a step up, we may not be able to match offers for any available All-Stars.
Thanks
for the info. I hope if a move needs to be made they make it.
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by Keystone80435 on Mar 22, 2008 1:17 PM CDT up reply actions
Hendry has been good, I think,
at getting deals that help at the deadline. That Nomar (plus Murton!) trade was a masterpiece. We got Aramis for a song.
Another factor I forgot to mention was that teams are less inclined to trade All-Stars because of the double draft picks they get if the guy walks. In other words, whatever the Cubs offer for, say C.C. Sabathia, has to be better than what the Indians could get with two draft picks in the first and supplemental round of the draft.
But one situation, I'd be watching is LA's SS situation, where they have Chin-Lung Hu coming up, and he may get the opportunity to establish himself as ML-ready at 3B while Nomar and LaRoche are injured. If Hu hits, Rafael Furcal could be available in-season, and he's a player we know Hendry has eyed before.
good point about LA
But The-Riot has basically the exact same stats as Furcal cept the $13 difference in salary.
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by Keystone80435 on Mar 22, 2008 1:53 PM CDT up reply actions
Yeah
if Furcal stays at his 2007 level, then we don't want him, but if last year was affected by his early season injuries, and he can hit like he has before, then I'd take his defense even if Theriot is hitting well. fwiw, PECOTA thinks he'll be back to a .350 OBP.
I think the Cubs have the money
but they don't have much minor league talent that will interest rebuilding teams. The Cubs best prospect is starting at catcher. After that it's Vitters who can't be traded yet. After that it starts getting a bit shaky. Players like Patterson, Cedeno and Veal all have significant issues.
thanks
Thats part of what I was trying to figure out. Could they deal players without draining the system of all the top talent.
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by Keystone80435 on Mar 22, 2008 11:06 AM CDT up reply actions
No-Trade Clauses
The problem is (hopefully it's a good problem, but only time will tell) that when you look at the Cubs big contracts for Lee, Ramirez, Soriano, Zambrano, and Fukudome, all of them have no-trade clauses, I think, except Dome. Now I'm not saying that's a bad thing because I see no reason why these guys can't keep producing for several more years. But when you're talking about trades, excluding pitchers, you're basically looking at CF, SS, 2B, and C positions that the Cubs could make a trade for at the Major League level, because the other positions are locked up for at least four more years. That's the gamble of no-trade clauses, and you just hope these guys can stay hungry and keep producing after they got their big payday. Again, I think they will, but it's always a risk.
"Don't complain to me about the stormy weather, boys. Just bring the ship into port." --Steve Stone, September 2004
10-5 Players
Remember, one of the reasons the Cubs were willing to give no trade clauses to Lee and Ramirez is that they will have 10-5 (10 years in majors, 5 with the same team) and will have automatic no trade protection, per the collective bargaining agreement.
Hey, it's a new century!
by cowsarecool220 on Mar 22, 2008 2:40 PM CDT up reply actions
Sabathia
Does anyone actually think the Indians would want to trade Sabathia, during a pennant race?
Good point about Furcal. I could definitely see that one happening.
Devin Hester, you are rediculous! -Jeff Joniak
Oh, let me be clear
I don't think Sabathia is likely to be on the trade market, but you can imagine a scenario where injuries and bad luck land the Indians out of the race and Sabathia is available. I was using CC as an example of a guy I knew was up for free agency.
Lineups
Are up on gameday
Cubs
Fontenot - SS
Soriano - LF
Lee - 1B
Ramirez - 3B
Fukudome - RF
Derosa - 2b
Soto - C
Pie - CF
Lilly - P
White Sox
Ozuna - 2b
Uribe - SS
Konerko - 1B
Dye - RF
Crede - 3B
Quentin - LF
Anderson - CF
Hall - C
Vazquez - P
Sori
misjudges the ball, and it's a triple. And we're off, folks!
2008: The year we put it all together.
FWIW...
...on the pregame radio interview with Ron Santo, Lou said, at least twice, that the only addition to the team he might expect anytime soon is a backup centerfielder.
Immediately after he said it, I couldn't help thinking that this means the Ronnie Cedeno experiment out there has clearly been put to rest. It's funny; I don't recall Ronnie making any huge errors in the outfield, but I guess Lou saw enough to dismiss the idea out of hand.
Ladies and gentlemen, your 2008 Chicago Cubs starting outfield: Soriano-Pie-Fukudome. Let it be.
an triple for ozuna
on a ball badly misjudged by soriano
I've seen Sori
misjudge too many. I know each team has a set pregame drills, etc., but wouldn't you think that they would have Sori taking tons of fly balls so he can improve? Isn't that what ST is for???
"WGN, Channel 9 Cubs Baseball, Excitingly, Importantly, Dramatically Yours." - Jack Brickhouse
You're right of course
.and I was also going to comment on it. Sori not only needs more practice but also needs to see a shrink since I think he's mentioned he has a psychological issue with it (fear of hitting the wall).
According to Pat,
Kerry is scheduled to pitch today and tomorrow
I heard that.
Should be interesting to see what happens.
2008: The year we put it all together.
by drewishdrewid on Mar 22, 2008 3:14 PM CDT up reply actions
that's what
Al said.
2008: The year we put it all together.
by drewishdrewid on Mar 22, 2008 3:20 PM CDT up reply actions
Double Steal!
Fonty at 3rd, Lee at 2nd.
Struck out ARam at the time, tho. 2 outs.
2008: The year we put it all together.
Sweet
We should do more of this. I think it's one of the most underrated moves in baseball. Works great for the Mets (suck).
was wondering if anyone was reading.
:D
They specifically said Dome's swing on that last strike didn't look good. I don't think the five-hole is a good place for him, mentally.
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by drewishdrewid on Mar 22, 2008 3:29 PM CDT up reply actions
Agree
I also don't think he'll see as many good pitches to hit compared to batting 2nd.
"WGN, Channel 9 Cubs Baseball, Excitingly, Importantly, Dramatically Yours." - Jack Brickhouse
I agree
I've always wanted him in the 2 hole, mainly for the protection he'll get there out of the big 345. It just makes too much sense!
I also agree with you that he might not be comftorable at 5
I agree, too.
The No. 2 spot is a better place in the lineup for Dome to get acclimated to Major League baseball. There, he can focus on fundamental hitting and getting on base instead of feeling like he has to swing for the fences.
Ladies and gentlemen, your 2008 Chicago Cubs starting outfield: Soriano-Pie-Fukudome. Let it be.
I couldn't agree more, BUT
I think some of us are forgetting that it's gonna take this guy some time to adapt to a different kind of baseball. Mentally (from what I've heard), this guy is as strong as they come, so I don't think hitting 5th is what's effecting him, especially in ST where I'm sure even he knows the #'s don't mean anything. I just think he needs time to acclimate himself a little more to a different kind of pitching and a whole new culture.
I'm reading now..
that i just got out of my car that had the XM hook-up.
Thanks for the updates.
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by Keystone80435 on Mar 22, 2008 3:51 PM CDT up reply actions
whaaaa
What was that radio silence about? Did Ronnie say he wasn't OK? My radio reception stinks here at work.
"These are the saddest of possible words: Tinker to Evers to Chance."
not sure
sorry.
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by drewishdrewid on Mar 22, 2008 3:32 PM CDT up reply actions
Hang on
Did Pat just say that he and Ron are going to talk about what kind of songs pump them up?
Why does everybody stand up and sing "Take Me Out to the Ballgame" when they're already there? ~Larry Anderson
Ron likes Stairway to Heaven
??????????
Why does everybody stand up and sing "Take Me Out to the Ballgame" when they're already there? ~Larry Anderson
i think they're talking about
the song to start games with.
2008: The year we put it all together.
by drewishdrewid on Mar 22, 2008 3:37 PM CDT up reply actions
Yep
Ron wants a rocker
Why does everybody stand up and sing "Take Me Out to the Ballgame" when they're already there? ~Larry Anderson
Ron says he's "not a big Madonna guy."
Likes "Soul Man" and Jimmy Buffet.
Ladies and gentlemen, your 2008 Chicago Cubs starting outfield: Soriano-Pie-Fukudome. Let it be.
Sounds like Pat
knows Buffet's entire back catalogue.
Why does everybody stand up and sing "Take Me Out to the Ballgame" when they're already there? ~Larry Anderson
DeRosa strikes out
Vasques has struck out 3 in a row(?)
1 out.
2008: The year we put it all together.
ha they want to play cheesburger in paradise
when prince comes to bat
Ron Santo
isn't a "big Madonna person."
I'm shocked.
phat
maybe he hasn't heard
her later catalogue. After Evita, she changed her style, you know.
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by drewishdrewid on Mar 22, 2008 3:43 PM CDT up reply actions
Santo's lying...
...I saw him at Smart Bar after a night game a couple years ago, and he was absolutely cutting up the dance floor to a remix of "Ray of Light."
Ladies and gentlemen, your 2008 Chicago Cubs starting outfield: Soriano-Pie-Fukudome. Let it be.
Geico is more scrappy.
:P
2008: The year we put it all together.
by drewishdrewid on Mar 22, 2008 3:43 PM CDT up reply actions
DeRosa
catches the pop-fly to end the inning.
after 2.5, WS 1, Cubs 0.
2008: The year we put it all together.
I HATE
how XM doesn't have all the channels online. Am I supposed to get 2 corndogs and a coke and go sit in my car in the garage? gezzz
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I recommend getting an Inno
I love mine! It's one of the walk-man style XM radios.
Hey, it's a new century!
by cowsarecool220 on Mar 22, 2008 8:24 PM CDT up reply actions
Ronnnnn haha
Just said "I've never had back problems, I'm sooo fortunate."
Now thats a great attitude if I ever heard one.
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Number 10 was my childhood hero...
...and now when I'm an adult and see how Ron gets up every day with such happiness and exuberance--even after countless medical issues--I am greatly humbled. I bought the DVD of the "This Old Cub" his son made of him, and got the T-shirt too :-)
Ronnie will always be my hero.
All these flyballs...
..are killing Lilly. Bummer.
Ladies and gentlemen, your 2008 Chicago Cubs starting outfield: Soriano-Pie-Fukudome. Let it be.
Lilly
might be tanking it becuase theres a scout from every team at this game. Doesnt wanna show his real stuff hahaha
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8 WS
have batted in the inning. He can quit tanking now.
2008: The year we put it all together.
by drewishdrewid on Mar 22, 2008 4:07 PM CDT up reply actions
yea
no doubt
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by Keystone80435 on Mar 22, 2008 4:09 PM CDT up reply actions
quite possiblly.
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by drewishdrewid on Mar 22, 2008 4:16 PM CDT up reply actions
yes
these guys are losing it. Quite entertaining.
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by Keystone80435 on Mar 22, 2008 4:20 PM CDT up reply actions
These guys
are talking about bikini's while I have a foot of snow outside my door! WTH!
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2 outs
don't know where it came from.
Pie catches a fly for the third out.
2008: The year we put it all together.
You
were distracted by Pat talking about how he likes real mail and he likes getting it in a post office haha
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by Keystone80435 on Mar 22, 2008 4:22 PM CDT up reply actions
or something.
I'm also catching up on a month's of web-comics while I listen... :P
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by drewishdrewid on Mar 22, 2008 4:23 PM CDT up reply actions
Ronnie
just said he "wasn't as erect" as earlier.
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by drewishdrewid on Mar 22, 2008 4:24 PM CDT up reply actions
I HEARD TAHT! haha
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by Keystone80435 on Mar 22, 2008 4:24 PM CDT up reply actions
Yes he did
Why does everybody stand up and sing "Take Me Out to the Ballgame" when they're already there? ~Larry Anderson
I didnt hear it
I heard every name but Al's
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by Keystone80435 on Mar 22, 2008 4:27 PM CDT up reply actions
I heard "Bruce Miles", Rob Glowacki" "George Castle" and "Al Yellon"
Why does everybody stand up and sing "Take Me Out to the Ballgame" when they're already there? ~Larry Anderson
I know!
What gives?
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by Keystone80435 on Mar 22, 2008 4:26 PM CDT up reply actions
They're talking about Season Ticket!
cubs = love
Pat read it cover to cover
Why does everybody stand up and sing "Take Me Out to the Ballgame" when they're already there? ~Larry Anderson
Might be done by game 160
"Cubs Win!!"
by northofwrigley on Mar 22, 2008 4:27 PM CDT up reply actions
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
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by Keystone80435 on Mar 22, 2008 4:28 PM CDT up reply actions
Ron just started.
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by Keystone80435 on Mar 22, 2008 4:27 PM CDT up reply actions
quick
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by Keystone80435 on Mar 22, 2008 4:27 PM CDT up reply actions
wonder if Al went up to the booth
and slapped a twenty on Pat to plug the book! ;-)
Lou Brown: "My kinda team, Charlie, my kinda team..."
It's possible.
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by Keystone80435 on Mar 22, 2008 4:28 PM CDT up reply actions
ha apparently someone sent it to him in the mail
and he picked it up at the post office :P
cubs = love
no doubt haha
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by Keystone80435 on Mar 22, 2008 4:29 PM CDT up reply actions
yea
I think he swung at all 3 too
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by Keystone80435 on Mar 22, 2008 4:35 PM CDT up reply actions
Question
I can only afford to go to a couple games this year. I really want to go to one in the Brewer's series, but will I just freeze my arse off? I guess I should wait until May? Thoughts?
"Cubs Win!!"
Unless
you can go to opening day. Thats tough to pass up.
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by Keystone80435 on Mar 22, 2008 4:37 PM CDT up reply actions
it
Gets real cold at night sitting in Wrigley. Wait so you can go when its nice and the ivy will be in full effect.
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by Keystone80435 on Mar 22, 2008 4:38 PM CDT up reply actions
I've been to quite a few games
but I want to pick my spots this year. But I don't want to wait!!!!!! I wish it would warm up!!!
"Cubs Win!!"
by northofwrigley on Mar 22, 2008 4:40 PM CDT up reply actions
ohhhhh
yea that place was a toilet haha
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by Keystone80435 on Mar 22, 2008 4:41 PM CDT up reply actions
WHAT!!!
PH'ing for the self proclaimed best hitter on the team! Thats crazy! hahaha
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by Keystone80435 on Mar 22, 2008 4:42 PM CDT up reply actions
EPat
swings on the first pitch. Fuku out at second, FC. Two outs.
2008: The year we put it all together.
Soto -- DOUBLE
hits it off the CF fence. 2 runs score! 4-3 WS!
2008: The year we put it all together.
sweet pie!!!
rbi single
I just want to win the last game of the season.
by Me and Lou WS 07 on Mar 22, 2008 4:45 PM CDT reply actions
Wow. I walked away and missed all four runs!
cubs = love
Ward grounds out
but hey.
1) Pie came through
2) Fukudome got a good hit
3) Lee got a good hit
4) Aram got a good hit
5) Tie game. All in all, not bad.
2008: The year we put it all together.
And Soto
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by Keystone80435 on Mar 22, 2008 4:50 PM CDT up reply actions
No surprise to see Javy Zasquez is
still unable, at this point in his career, to get out of the middle innings unscathed. It's kind of bizarre, really.
"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07
S GET SOME RUNS!
2008: The year we put it all together.
by drewishdrewid on Mar 22, 2008 4:58 PM CDT up reply actions
Rick Morrissey,
Mr. Wood at the In Your Face department would like to see you
"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07
How did Fontentot
get on?
Why does everybody stand up and sing "Take Me Out to the Ballgame" when they're already there? ~Larry Anderson
I don't know.
2008: The year we put it all together.
by drewishdrewid on Mar 22, 2008 5:02 PM CDT up reply actions
Doesn't matter now
:(
Why does everybody stand up and sing "Take Me Out to the Ballgame" when they're already there? ~Larry Anderson
Thank you very much Mr Santo
Ron getting hounded for autographs in the booth between inning, as he and Pat were having a water cooler discussion about March Madness...
Why does everybody stand up and sing "Take Me Out to the Ballgame" when they're already there? ~Larry Anderson
So is Pat saying
that Ron is a dirty old man?
"Cubs Win!!"
by northofwrigley on Mar 22, 2008 5:09 PM CDT up reply actions
No whats this directions tuff? hahaha
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by Keystone80435 on Mar 22, 2008 5:09 PM CDT up reply actions
Ronnie has
completely lost concentration after being called out for having booby binocs
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by Keystone80435 on Mar 22, 2008 5:10 PM CDT up reply actions
LOL hooters binocs
I spend a lot of time in Huntington Beach as well as Phoenix and I've been busted many times on the beach with my "Hooter binocs". Checking out the scenery though is a very popular sport there though.
I guess that does make me a dirty middled aged man.
And
it'd be tough for you to say you have the binocs so you can see the pitchers hahaha That was Ronnies excuse.
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by Keystone80435 on Mar 22, 2008 5:28 PM CDT up reply actions
LOL that's true
The key is that you have to ALWAYS be looking towards the water (alot of people have binoculars for moral and ethical reasons like keeping an eye on their kids) and never, NEVER follow them back to their towel, no matter how superior the species.
SERIOUSLY
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by Keystone80435 on Mar 22, 2008 5:11 PM CDT up reply actions
whos actually listening ot the game anymore. I hope Ronnie doesnt end up in a ditch with his directions . These 2 are radio gold hahaha
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by Keystone80435 on Mar 22, 2008 5:12 PM CDT up reply actions
What inning is it?
Like Al said, it's 90 out here and it's got to be one of the warmest ST games for the Cubs ever.
8th i think
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by Keystone80435 on Mar 22, 2008 5:22 PM CDT up reply actions
yes, bottom of the 8th
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by drewishdrewid on Mar 22, 2008 5:23 PM CDT up reply actions
yes
boo
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by Keystone80435 on Mar 22, 2008 5:26 PM CDT up reply actions
Becuase Clemson
lost yesterday.
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by Keystone80435 on Mar 22, 2008 5:29 PM CDT up reply actions
because Pie struck out to end the inning
cubs = love
yea
and that.
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by Keystone80435 on Mar 22, 2008 5:30 PM CDT up reply actions
Hart comes out to pitch
maybe a little bit of redemption here...
2008: The year we put it all together.
Becuase Duke
lost today.
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by Keystone80435 on Mar 22, 2008 5:31 PM CDT up reply actions
I figured it was because
Pie struck out. But then I figured that you wouldnt boo the guy who tied the game.
by louslovechild on Mar 22, 2008 5:32 PM CDT up reply actions
I'm
boo'ing becuase my brackets are trash.
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by Keystone80435 on Mar 22, 2008 5:33 PM CDT up reply actions
Hart may be a little rattled.
Konerke almost got a monster hit there...
2008: The year we put it all together.
anyone know the line on Hart?
Let me get back to you, will ya, Charlie? I got a guy on the other line asking about some white walls.
Boone Logan
in to pitch for the WS
Cedeno leads off. Baseball IQ just POURS off this guy. Like water off a duck's back.
But in his defense... he just hit a single and legged it out into a double.
2008: The year we put it all together.
Cedeno!
I just want to win the last game of the season.
by Me and Lou WS 07 on Mar 22, 2008 5:40 PM CDT reply actions
is it Boone Logan or Logan Boone? ;)
Let me get back to you, will ya, Charlie? I got a guy on the other line asking about some white walls.
I wish
Bob Gibson were around for Uribe to do that ridiculous peek-a-boo thing he does when he hits homeruns. Gibby would put an end to that foolishness with a little brushback action.
"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07
Sue's favorite in to hit
Murton having a good at-bat, he walks. WILD PITCH! Cedeno to third!
2008: The year we put it all together.
My favorite too
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by Keystone80435 on Mar 22, 2008 5:42 PM CDT up reply actions
you're just a sucker for his hair.
and his dreamy eyes
2008: The year we put it all together.
by drewishdrewid on Mar 22, 2008 5:43 PM CDT up reply actions
HAHA!
Grody to the max!
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by Keystone80435 on Mar 22, 2008 5:43 PM CDT up reply actions
Ronny getting picked off
in 5...4..3..2...
"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07
Ball four was a wild pitch!
1st and third
cubs = love
Santo left early so he could get to Peoria in time tomorrow haha
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by Keystone80435 on Mar 22, 2008 5:43 PM CDT up reply actions
Soriano
hits a long one, Dye catches it, Cedeno tags and scores, 5-5 tie game!
2008: The year we put it all together.
Guillen takes Logan out
pitching change.
I find it very odd that Santo gets to leave early. And it leaves Pat in the position of having to constantly talk to himself...
2008: The year we put it all together.
Kinda like Vin Scully
Why does everybody stand up and sing "Take Me Out to the Ballgame" when they're already there? ~Larry Anderson
Tie game!
Lets go DLee!
I just want to win the last game of the season.
by Me and Lou WS 07 on Mar 22, 2008 5:45 PM CDT reply actions
he got all the way around the bases
without getting tagged out ONCE.
2008: The year we put it all together.
by drewishdrewid on Mar 22, 2008 5:46 PM CDT up reply actions
When he got to home plate
I wonder if he stood there for a awile not knowing what to do next.
I just want to win the last game of the season.
by Me and Lou WS 07 on Mar 22, 2008 5:49 PM CDT up reply actions
He probably just kept going.
I'm drunk......and it shows.....
by Keystone80435 on Mar 22, 2008 5:49 PM CDT up reply actions
he just wanted his lollypop...
2008: The year we put it all together.
by drewishdrewid on Mar 22, 2008 5:50 PM CDT up reply actions
HAHAHAHAAHAH
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by Keystone80435 on Mar 22, 2008 5:58 PM CDT up reply actions
Actually he prob run to first
trying to circle the bases again til the coaches told him to go to the dugout.
I just want to win the last game of the season.
by Me and Lou WS 07 on Mar 22, 2008 6:05 PM CDT up reply actions
true
but a smart one
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by Keystone80435 on Mar 22, 2008 5:48 PM CDT up reply actions
How die hard are Cub fans, seriosly
This is a meaningless ST game and the game thread will probably be over 300!
Cheers Cub fans! 9 more days!
Cant wait til 31st
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by Keystone80435 on Mar 22, 2008 5:50 PM CDT up reply actions
this is probably my fault...
doing the play by play and all... :P
2008: The year we put it all together.
by drewishdrewid on Mar 22, 2008 5:51 PM CDT up reply actions
This auto flash is great though
I hope we can keep it as big a secret as we can, because come regular season, every Cub fan will be here for the game threads.
so far the servers have seemed up for it
although I'm going to refrain from estimating response time in October.
2008: The year we put it all together.
by drewishdrewid on Mar 22, 2008 5:53 PM CDT up reply actions
i love it, much appreciated
I can watch the NCAA games and follow your play by play...
Let me get back to you, will ya, Charlie? I got a guy on the other line asking about some white walls.
appreciate the commentary
I can't get wgn radio right now and won't pay for gameday audio in the interim
"I know getting inducted into the Hall of Fame had to be something, but that flag is going to be hanging there after everybody is gone." ~ Ron Santo
Surprised about the servers too
and it is only ST but it's been relatively smooth especially considering all the avatars.
THese game threads are more like a chat room than a message board, which is cool and dare I say this auto flash is REVOLUTIONARY!!!. The other boards need to upgrade to do this, because like I said, every cub fan will be here and that's not really a good thing. No more refreshing every 3 seconds.
took me some time to get used to it
and the entire page has glitched for me at least once, but I'm really likeing it.
2008: The year we put it all together.
by drewishdrewid on Mar 22, 2008 6:03 PM CDT up reply actions
yep
Once it gets around 300 comments things get a little flakey. But I have no issues with how things are working.
I'm drunk......and it shows.....
by Keystone80435 on Mar 22, 2008 6:06 PM CDT up reply actions
Hoffpauer hits into
a double play. Game tied, inning over.
And they're going to extra inning...
2008: The year we put it all together.
Ozzies son in the game
I just want to win the last game of the season.
by Me and Lou WS 07 on Mar 22, 2008 5:56 PM CDT reply actions
Boney somethin
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by Keystone80435 on Mar 22, 2008 5:58 PM CDT up reply actions
friggen Eyre
wtf. I can understand pitchers like Hill struggling in AZ but there really is no excuse for Eyre to be. Atleast not THE ENTIRE SPRING TRAINING. He better get his szit straight by next week.
Eyre
gives me heartburn, guaranteed
Geovany Soto you're my Hero
by love the ivy on Mar 22, 2008 6:05 PM CDT up reply actions
I think
it's better Ron left. He'd be devistated.
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by Keystone80435 on Mar 22, 2008 6:02 PM CDT up reply actions
i need spellcheck
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by Keystone80435 on Mar 22, 2008 6:02 PM CDT up reply actions
Eyre finally gets 3 outs
I just want to win the last game of the season.
by Me and Lou WS 07 on Mar 22, 2008 6:08 PM CDT reply actions
I have been listening
to the game, but was too busy playing games on pogo to follow along on here. Too bad this game isn't panning out so well. It would have been exciting to be there today. 80 degrees, I would cut off a finger for that!
Geovany Soto you're my Hero
Do you play pogo pool?
I play Texas Hold 'em on Pogo too....last year I was at a final table to win a seat at the 2007 WSOP. After I lost with 2 pair to a river set, I needed a new keyboard, mouse and damn near new computer!!!
I play
chainfactor.com
I'm drunk......and it shows.....
by Keystone80435 on Mar 22, 2008 6:46 PM CDT up reply actions
My faves are
lottso, dice city rollers, pogo bowl, mahjong garden, makeover maddness..... really i try to play whatever is up for badges for the week. so now the truth is out, i spend waaaay too much time on the internet between BCB and pogo, lol
Geovany Soto you're my Hero
by love the ivy on Mar 22, 2008 11:16 PM CDT up reply actions
is there always
extra innings in ST? Or is it a 'if both teams agree' thing.
I'm drunk......and it shows.....
they just said "10 innings only"
2008: The year we put it all together.
by drewishdrewid on Mar 22, 2008 6:13 PM CDT up reply actions
not always....the managers can call it...
Let me get back to you, will ya, Charlie? I got a guy on the other line asking about some white walls.
dare I hope?
"I know getting inducted into the Hall of Fame had to be something, but that flag is going to be hanging there after everybody is gone." ~ Ron Santo
I wonder
if I just didnt notice before. But I swear Blanco came back from the minors last year with both arms covered in tattoos.
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by Keystone80435 on Mar 22, 2008 6:15 PM CDT up reply actions
I thought he was like that all year.
2008: The year we put it all together.
by drewishdrewid on Mar 22, 2008 6:15 PM CDT up reply actions
Good!
Hope he walks then they put Marquis in to run for him.
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by Keystone80435 on Mar 22, 2008 6:18 PM CDT up reply actions
his dreamy eyes got that hit!
2008: The year we put it all together.
by drewishdrewid on Mar 22, 2008 6:21 PM CDT up reply actions
Yes!
he blinded Dye with his dreamy eyes haha
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by Keystone80435 on Mar 22, 2008 6:21 PM CDT up reply actions
Murton ties the game!
Cedeno on third, Murton on Second! 8-8!
2008: The year we put it all together.
Fuld grounds out
so... that's it.
Tie game.
I feel very ambivalent about this. Pat seems ambivalent too. "It was fun!"
2008: The year we put it all together.
yea
boo
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by Keystone80435 on Mar 22, 2008 6:23 PM CDT up reply actions
LOL for those of us not able to hear the game
Thank you Drewishdrewid and everyone else who updated us with what was happening in the game.
Al should go bonk that
guy on the head that grabbed Creede's ball. Didn't that single turned double end up scoring?
I'm drunk......and it shows.....
It's Spring Training for the fans too
He was just getting in mid season form for his outings at Wrigley this year.
actually, if it han't been ruled a GR double
it probably would have scored MORE than one run. So, that guy actually helped us tie the game. He's the anti-Bartman. :P
2008: The year we put it all together.
by drewishdrewid on Mar 22, 2008 6:30 PM CDT up reply actions
I thought that was the second GRD that would have scored more. Well if it helped then Al should give the guy a copy of Wrigley Season Ticket 2008!
I'm drunk......and it shows.....
by Keystone80435 on Mar 22, 2008 6:32 PM CDT up reply actions
that is hillarious!!!
Let me get back to you, will ya, Charlie? I got a guy on the other line asking about some white walls.
I'm no santoswoodenleg
but I try... :P
2008: The year we put it all together.
by drewishdrewid on Mar 22, 2008 6:30 PM CDT up reply actions
BWWAAAHAHAAHAHAHAH
Thats funny ___ !
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by Keystone80435 on Mar 22, 2008 6:32 PM CDT up reply actions
it's official
I love Opie Weasley.
"These are the saddest of possible words: Tinker to Evers to Chance."
Are they still gonna play or are they calling the game tied after 10 innings?
The Time Is Now. [Chicago Cubs, '08]
Bah!
Bologna.
I want a victory.
Nice job today, Woody. Make that idiot, Mariotti, eat his words.
The Time Is Now. [Chicago Cubs, '08]
yes
that would be great
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by Keystone80435 on Mar 22, 2008 6:56 PM CDT up reply actions
Oh yea!
1 walk and then a hit to tie the game.
I'm drunk......and it shows.....
by Keystone80435 on Mar 22, 2008 6:51 PM CDT up reply actions
he did!
he raised his boyishly tousled head, and swung his muscled arms while narrowing his dreamy eyes and hit the ball with the bat!
swoon! :P
2008: The year we put it all together.
by drewishdrewid on Mar 22, 2008 7:02 PM CDT up reply actions
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