More Cubs-Related Media Sensationalism

by timlacy on Mar 24, 2008 11:54 AM CDT

While I want Marquis traded, I don't agree with or want this:

"The expectation is that the Cubs will eventually ship off starter Jason Marquis to Boston for center fielder Coco Crisp. Chicago has clearly soured on Felix Pie. It wouldn't be a surprise to see Pie included in the Brian Roberts deal with Baltimore."

Soured on Pie? Who says? I'm sure there are private sentiments about his upside and abilities, but no one has talked "sour" during the spring.

Why does the national media continue to sensationalize Cubs-related happenings? It's like a new sport. -TL

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by timlacy on Mar 24, 2008 12:01 PM CDT reply actions

I'm going to get blasted for this but

I'm not sold on Pie yet. I'd rather see a veteran player with major league experience patroling CF at Wrigley.

I'm drunk......and it shows.....

by Keystone80435 on Mar 24, 2008 12:11 PM CDT reply actions

we cant have an all star

at every position. pie's defense should be good enough to warrant him a starting spot.

Bill James Felix Pie 2008 Projection: .283/.333/.456 16 HR 21 SB

by kylejo on Mar 24, 2008 2:29 PM CDT up reply actions

Dusty, please stop posting here

Dusty, you are the Reds' manager now. Please go post to their web sites about your veteran bs. And stop hiding behind fake screen names. We know it is you.

In the middle of a good time, Truth gave me her icy kiss. Look around, you must be joking. All that way, all that way for this -Oysterband

by Ross on Mar 24, 2008 4:18 PM CDT up reply actions

Yep

you got me.

I'm drunk......and it shows.....

by Keystone80435 on Mar 24, 2008 6:57 PM CDT up reply actions

If

Pie can stay consistant and continue to do what he did today then I'll retract all statements.

I'm drunk......and it shows.....

by Keystone80435 on Mar 24, 2008 7:00 PM CDT up reply actions

I'm not against acquiring a backup.

But I don't want to see the team acquire Coco Crisp. I want to see Pie as the everyday center-fielder and see once and for all what he can do. Plus, with Soriano in LF, I like the fact that Pie covers a lot of ground in center. This guy has been the organization most hyped prospect for about three years now. Let him play, and see what he can do. If he's hovering around the .200 mark at the end of May, then we'll re-think that. But I think that is very unlikely.

"Don't complain to me about the stormy weather, boys. Just bring the ship into port." --Steve Stone, September 2004

by ctcoff99 on Mar 24, 2008 12:21 PM CDT reply actions

I'm all for Pie succeeding.

But the Cubs haven't had much luck experimenting rookies in CF. I guess you have to get your playing time in somehow. Gotta start somewhere. This is a pretty important year and I wish there was no question about the future of CF.

I'm drunk......and it shows.....

by Keystone80435 on Mar 24, 2008 12:31 PM CDT up reply actions

there is a reason to hype a prospect and there is a reason to make a decision

Hyping a prospects happens, both by itself and by the marketing machinery, the other is making a decision on whether the player can stick and perform or might be better served developing himself somewhere else.

The Cubs are not unlike NYY, NTM, Boston and even LAD, SF in developing everyday position players, these teams rarely develop an everyday star. The reason possibly is that the organization, the media and fans cannot afford the patience to allow a player to develop like than can in environments like Milwaukee, Minnesota, Oakland, Cincinnati, KC, Denver et cetera.....

Hyping a prospect is part of a trade value thing. So....in that vein I can care less if Pie per se develops or doesn't, sure it is a nice story, the same for Choi or Patterson, the thing is can Pie develop into a bona fide MLB player....if there is a genuine question, is there a fundamental hole in his game? I am not that informed, smart, or clued in, but Piniella and Hendry are.....and if the hole in the Cubs lineup is a genuine lead off hitter and Pie has a real question....let him go and get a CF'er.

Piniella: "This is a tougher job than I thought it would be, I'm going to be honest with you."

by Ivy Walls on Mar 24, 2008 12:37 PM CDT up reply actions

Thats kinda my argument. Another 'experement' in the Cubs CF to start the season?

I'm drunk......and it shows.....

by Keystone80435 on Mar 24, 2008 12:55 PM CDT up reply actions

To play devil's advocate...

You must think that this year the Cubs are much improved over last year offensively. If that means the sole addition of Fukudome to the lineup, so be it. But I think in the NL Central, the Cubs can afford to let someone like Pie develop. I'm sure there are plenty of 8 hole hitters in the NL that are less talented and worse off than Pie. Let's give him a legitimate shot, and see what's what. Didn't the Cubs win the division last year with Jacques Jones in CF? I think this is an upgrade defensively and whatever offense he can provide will be a plus.

by bap on Mar 24, 2008 1:00 PM CDT up reply actions

I agree...

...but I don't think they will go as long as most people think. IMO, Pie is going to get 30-40 games to show what he can do when the games matter.

"I don't like them fellas that drive in two runs but let in three" Casey Stengel

by MPH73 on Mar 24, 2008 1:05 PM CDT up reply actions

I didnt think of that. Might as well let him get his swings in knowing the team should be playing well.

I'm drunk......and it shows.....

by Keystone80435 on Mar 24, 2008 1:08 PM CDT up reply actions

soured on Pie?

what's this guy drinking, because I want some...

2008: The year we put it all together.

by drewishdrewid on Mar 24, 2008 12:28 PM CDT reply actions

Troy Renck

is constantly trying to "one-up" Tracy Ringolsby, the HOF writer who works for the other Denver paper. In truth, neither one of them prints much truth. In fact, the fact that he wrote that the Crisp-Marquis trade was likely makes me sure that it won't happen.

"I've never complained about it. I'm thankful to have a jersey." Mark DeRosa, 22 Aug 2007

by DeRoMyHero on Mar 24, 2008 12:30 PM CDT reply actions

Soured...

...is not the right way to put it. Clearly, the Cubs want Pie to succeed and become a player they have no problem putting out there against lefties or righties.

With that said, I think it would be naive to not think, both Piniella and Hendry both know, there is a chance Pie does not succeed in 08, and CF is the one position they are preparing for this possibility.

"I don't like them fellas that drive in two runs but let in three" Casey Stengel

by MPH73 on Mar 24, 2008 1:02 PM CDT reply actions

Pie

has hit a ton since recovering from surgery. Defensively he's the best center fielder the Cubs have had in several generations. I think he's ready, and is going to hit. Sit him occasionally against tough lefties, but he's definitely the man in cf.

by Clark Addison on Mar 24, 2008 6:47 PM CDT reply actions