A Nice Big Slice Of Pie
MESA, Arizona -- NOW will the naysayers stop dumping on Felix Pie?
Pie singled, doubled, laid down a nice sac bunt and tripled with two out in the ninth inning, and two pitches later scored when Eric Patterson bounced a ball up the middle, giving the Cubs a 7-6 win over the Rangers before another sellout, 12,757 at Ho Ho Kam Park this afternoon.
Total attendance for the 13 dates so far is 155,926, an average of 11,994. The Cubs won't break their season attendance record (which is also the all-time spring training record for any ballpark, Arizona or Florida) set in 2004, 193,993 (an average of 12,125 per date), but with another sellout expected Thursday, the average will go over 12,000.
Today's lawn crowd included several other friends from the bleachers who had just arrived, including Ken and his two sons, who like to shag baseballs during BP at Wrigley. The kids had just walked away when Mark DeRosa's three-run HR in the first inning flew over our heads and landed against the back fence, one-bouncing into the parking lot, a blast of about 410 feet. DeRo also played half the game at third base today. I'm sure that must have started the speculators going ("Geez! If he's playing 3B, that must mean he's going to be a supersub! I bet TTTSNBN is gonna happen!") No, that wasn't it at all -- it was just a half game just to give DeRo a few innings at 3B (something he did last spring, too), and to give Aramis Ramirez the rest of the day off.
Most of the regulars were out of the game after the sixth inning, except for DeRo and Pie. Alfonso Soriano had a nice day at the plate, drawing a walk ahead of D-Lee's single and DeRosa's HR, and in the sixth inning had an excellent at-bat, fouling off several pitches before poking a fly ball deep enough into center field to score Ronny Cedeno (who had singled, stolen second and gone to third on a throwing error), which at the time gave the Cubs a two-run lead, and with Jon Lieber throwing strikes in relief, that looked like it was enough.
Lieber, who almost never walks anyone, walked pinch-hitter Nelson Cruz ileading off the eighth, and one out later, one-time Cub farmhand Adam Melhuse smacked a two-run HR off Lieber, tying the game, and setting up the heroics in the 9th. The Cubs had a shot in the 8th, after pinch-hitter deluxe Daryle Ward doubled with one out, but Sam Fuld, sent in to run for Ward, died there when Mike Fontenot and Matt Murton struck out.
About Lieber, frankly, I was not happy to hear that Jason Marquis was named to the last rotation slot and Lieber shunted to the bullpen. This is being further discussed in this FanPost posted earlier today. It was the consensus on the lawn today that Marquis might be being showcased for a trade -- not necessarily a deal to be made before next Monday, but maybe a deal that could happen sometime before Marquis blows up in the second half of the season. (Not now, no, and especially not TTTSNBN, which, as I have been saying all along, is probably dead.
Lieber, of course, is a trooper and won't complain about a bullpen assignment, either. It has been a long time since the Cubs have had a pitcher like that in the pen, too -- a guy with many years of experience as a starter. The last one was probably Terry Mulholland, who started six games and relieved in 64 others in 1998, posting a 2.89 ERA, 1.29 WHIP and a 151 ERA+; Mulholland was a key part of that pitching staff and perhaps Lieber can serve the same role this year.
Further, Ryan Dempster wasn't all that sharp today, and it's the usual reason -- too many walks. I don't have a pitch count, but Lou had to yank him with two out in the fifth, after he had walked three and given up eight hits, several of them rockets into the gap. So to me, even though Lou has "set" his rotation, it may very well still be in flux once the season actually begins.
Incidentally, if you were one of those hoping the Cubs would get Joe Nathan by trade later, forget it. Today, Nathan signed a four-year, $47 million extension with the Twins. (Nice work if you can get it.) Anyway, the official anointing of Kerry Wood as closer does, in my opinion, solve that problem. Wood is healthy, threw back-to-back days with no trouble (I'm presuming he'll go tomorrow, to pitch 3 of 4 days, as a closer might during the year), and is throwing 98 MPH with nasty breaking stuff. He seems eminently suited by temperament to close, and that gives the Cubs two excellent setup men in Bob Howry and Carlos Marmol (who looked much better today in getting the Cubs out of a bases-loaded jam in the fifth).
Les Walrond... is still around. Threw an uneventful 9th and qualified for the win today. Lou has said Walrond still has a shot at making the team, but I just don't see it. What can he do that Carmen Pignatiello can't? And, Walrond is a nonroster guy, which means someone would have to be dumped from the 40-man roster to make room. I... just... don't... see... the... point.
Finally, we had another table selling Wrigley Season Ticket before the game; about 30 copies were sold, and autographed by Fergie Jenkins, who I assume many of you saw during the game telecast, promoting the book, among other things. I have a favor to ask: if any of you who are more adept at this than I am, could take a video clip out of the MLB.TV archive (or elsewhere, if you have it) and email it to me, of Fergie's appearance, I would be grateful.
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There's an empty spot on the 40-man...
...currently, according to Cubs.com's roster. If that makes you feel any better.
by cwyers on Mar 24, 2008 7:08 PM CDT 0 recs
I did not know that.
Thanks. I'd still take Pignatiello if Eyre is hurt. Sean Marshall should be sent to Iowa to start.
"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx
by Al on
Mar 24, 2008 7:24 PM CDT
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There Was a Clip on CSN Today...
...that listed the following in the 'pen.
Hart, Lieber, Howry, Marmol, Marquis, Wood (C), and Wuertz.
Eyre (DL)
Ironically, they are all righties...
Jacque Jones is gone, and I doubt Ivan DeJesus would mind this!
by initram on
Mar 24, 2008 7:36 PM CDT
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Marquis
wasn't on the list, b/c he's starting, but that gives us 11 pitchers (not counting Eyre), so one more lefty should finish it off.
by cubswin14 on
Mar 24, 2008 7:39 PM CDT
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Is Piggy lefty or righty? I dont remember.
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by Keystone80435 on
Mar 24, 2008 7:41 PM CDT
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my lazy butt looked it up...lefty
I'm drunk......and it shows.....
by Keystone80435 on
Mar 24, 2008 7:42 PM CDT
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Yer Right... My Mistake...
... I just can't think of who that last guy was now...
Jacque Jones is gone, and I doubt Ivan DeJesus would mind this!
by initram on
Mar 24, 2008 7:43 PM CDT
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Nope...
... did anyone else see this screen capture during the game?
Jacque Jones is gone, and I doubt Ivan DeJesus would mind this!
by initram on
Mar 24, 2008 7:46 PM CDT
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Nope...
Jacque Jones is gone, and I doubt Ivan DeJesus would mind this!
by initram on
Mar 24, 2008 7:48 PM CDT
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Hart Was Listed First
Jacque Jones is gone, and I doubt Ivan DeJesus would mind this!
by initram on
Mar 24, 2008 7:50 PM CDT
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I Remember Seeing Hart In There...
...and I had enough time to count them, and to note that they were all righties.
Jacque Jones is gone, and I doubt Ivan DeJesus would mind this!
by initram on
Mar 24, 2008 7:49 PM CDT
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duh
he's on your list.
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by Keystone80435 on
Mar 24, 2008 7:50 PM CDT
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dont make
me list the 40 man roster...
I'm drunk......and it shows.....
by Keystone80435 on
Mar 24, 2008 7:50 PM CDT
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Depth Chart Reads...
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Bullpen
B. Howry
C. Marmol
K. Wood
S. Eyre
M. Wuertz
C. Pignatiello
K. Hart
T. Lahey
http://chicago.cubs.mlb.com/team/depth_chart/index.jsp?c_id=chc
Note: Lieber is not listed, and Eyre has not been reflected as being put on the DL.
Jacque Jones is gone, and I doubt Ivan DeJesus would mind this!
by initram on
Mar 24, 2008 7:52 PM CDT
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One More Note...
...that's 8, not 7.
Jacque Jones is gone, and I doubt Ivan DeJesus would mind this!
by initram on
Mar 24, 2008 7:54 PM CDT
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Well
You put Piggy in AAA and Eyre on the DL and move Lieber to bullpen and you have 7.
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by Keystone80435 on
Mar 24, 2008 7:56 PM CDT
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That
depth chart also lists 7 starters
I'm drunk......and it shows.....
by Keystone80435 on
Mar 24, 2008 7:57 PM CDT
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I Don't Recall Seeing Lahey, Though...
perhaps it was the frontal lobatomy that has something to do with my misremembery.
Jacque Jones is gone, and I doubt Ivan DeJesus would mind this!
by initram on
Mar 24, 2008 7:59 PM CDT
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I doubt...
... Eyre has officially been put on the DL yet. That doesn't have to be done till the end of the week.
"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx
by Al on
Mar 24, 2008 8:00 PM CDT
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That's Correct...
...but the screen capture was assuming he was headed there...
Jacque Jones is gone, and I doubt Ivan DeJesus would mind this!
by initram on
Mar 24, 2008 8:01 PM CDT
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If ...
... that was from the Cubs website depth chart, that chart is often wrong. I wouldn't read too much into it.
"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx
by Al on
Mar 24, 2008 8:03 PM CDT
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True...
...and I was looking for it in the latest announcment re: Wood. Nada
Jacque Jones is gone, and I doubt Ivan DeJesus would mind this!
by initram on
Mar 24, 2008 8:04 PM CDT
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agreed
i think it would defiinitely benefit marshall more to pitch as a starter, and pignatiello looks like he can hold down the lefty spot in the pen as well as or better than marshall at this point.
Bill James Felix Pie 2008 Projection: .283/.333/.456 16 HR 21 SB
by kylejo on
Mar 25, 2008 9:10 AM CDT
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Yes
It was nice to see pie play the way he was supposed to for once.
I still like..
Soriano, Fukudome, Murton though
Plz prove me wrong Pie.
by Rudey on Mar 24, 2008 7:11 PM CDT 0 recs
Pie, Yea! Su Dominates!
ok, so my Latin is from Monty Python and the Holy Grail, but it's still topical. Go Cubs!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
by kentmeister on Mar 24, 2008 7:22 PM CDT 0 recs
Love it!
Should have used that as the title of the post, darnitall.
"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx
by Al on
Mar 24, 2008 7:24 PM CDT
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I personally would rather see Lieber
In the rotation over Dempster, not Marquis. Mainly moreso because Dempster has come out of the Bullpen before. Plus he's gonna suck as a starter. He's painfully deliberate and struggles throwing strikes. Plus he sucks. How many of the starters for the Rangers played today?Hamilton and who else?
It was nice to see Pie play very well today and hopefully he can keep it up heading into the regular season.
Also, let's not get carried away and
by lemon20pie on Mar 24, 2008 7:22 PM CDT 0 recs
and nevermind
Pie looked good today, Spring Training or not. Correct me if I'm wrong, but all his hits were off pitchers projected to make the 25 man roster and 2 were lefties?
by lemon20pie on
Mar 24, 2008 7:24 PM CDT
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That's correct.
Two hits off LHP Gabbard, who is in the Rangers' rotation, and one off Tejeda, who is in their bullpen.
"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx
by Al on
Mar 24, 2008 7:25 PM CDT
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Don't get too excited Al....
It's only one game and Spring Training at that.. D-Lee is the one I'm worried about for now.
"Hey-Hey! Home Run! Attaboy Ronnie!" ~ Jack Brickhouse
by ronsanto10 on
Mar 24, 2008 8:54 PM CDT
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The thing I worry about...
... with D-Lee, is that he hasn't been pulling the ball. His HR was to RF.
"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx
by Al on
Mar 24, 2008 9:25 PM CDT
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Okay,
So we shouldn't be excited about Pie because it's only spring training, but we should be worried about Derrek Lee, even though it's only spring training. Right. Got it. Flawless logic.
"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07
by gary varsho on
Mar 25, 2008 7:10 AM CDT
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WOW... he was hittin lefties today!
Thank friggin god... hopefully that's progress.
Ed Lynch is STILL on the Cubs payroll, as our D-Backs scout in Phoenix. Lynch attends all 81 D-Back home games with a notepad in hand. Really paid off for us!
by SackMan on
Mar 24, 2008 8:57 PM CDT
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Wish he'd look sometime....
Pie failed to pick up the third base coach as he rounded first base on both shots down the line...... failing to do the fundamental things over the long haul has a way of getting you in the end...
by James031 on Mar 24, 2008 8:10 PM CDT 0 recs
Exactly...
Jacque Jones is gone, and I doubt Ivan DeJesus would mind this!
by initram on
Mar 24, 2008 8:11 PM CDT
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I'm so bored with it
that at thsi point I dont care either way if they make a trade or not. I just wish they'd either do it now or say they aren't doing it. I dont want this trade rumor stuff going into opening week.
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by Keystone80435 on
Mar 24, 2008 8:23 PM CDT
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S___
or get off the pot.
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by Keystone80435 on
Mar 24, 2008 8:24 PM CDT
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comcast
only listed 11 pitchers on the screen shot.
Eyre listed as the bottom and left the last spot up to suggestion.
by cozmotaylor123 on Mar 24, 2008 8:23 PM CDT 0 recs
Thanks...
...so the 6 bullpen guys were in fact:
Lieber, Hart, Howry, Marmol, Wood and Wuertz?
Jacque Jones is gone, and I doubt Ivan DeJesus would mind this!
by initram on
Mar 24, 2008 9:10 PM CDT
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That Then Leaves...
...who's the 7th? Likely between Pignatiello and Marshall.
I'd have to bet it's Pignatiello, simply because Marshall would be best suited as a long man - a role likely for Lieber right now.
When Eyre comes back, he likely bumps Pignatiello. When Marquis is traded, Lieber takes his spot, and then Marshall may get the call to be the long man.
Jacque Jones is gone, and I doubt Ivan DeJesus would mind this!
by initram on
Mar 24, 2008 9:15 PM CDT
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just saw the replay of Pie's double...
...in the 5th...that swing looks more compact to me...
anyone?
Let me get back to you, will ya, Charlie? I got a guy on the other line asking about some white walls.
by JB 23 on Mar 24, 2008 8:41 PM CDT 0 recs
Absolutely
Jacque Jones is gone, and I doubt Ivan DeJesus would mind this!
by initram on
Mar 24, 2008 9:04 PM CDT
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I should have asked, anyone agree or disagree?
n/t
Let me get back to you, will ya, Charlie? I got a guy on the other line asking about some white walls.
by JB 23 on Mar 24, 2008 8:43 PM CDT 0 recs
And Did You Notice...
...how he did not pick up his third base coach like he is supposed to?
Jacque Jones is gone, and I doubt Ivan DeJesus would mind this!
by initram on
Mar 24, 2008 9:08 PM CDT
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you bet....was surprised when he didnt go to third
Let me get back to you, will ya, Charlie? I got a guy on the other line asking about some white walls.
by JB 23 on
Mar 24, 2008 9:10 PM CDT
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Perhaps...
...had he just run all out and watched his coach, he would've been at third.
Byrd did make a nice play on that ball, though.
Jacque Jones is gone, and I doubt Ivan DeJesus would mind this!
by initram on
Mar 24, 2008 9:10 PM CDT
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Not concerned about Marquis over Lieber...
For one thing, I suspect that Marquis will be traded, so it's probably irrelevant long-term. For another, Lieber is a pretty good team guy, and he's not going to be too upset by anything.
What I WOULD be concerned about is if Lieber was passed over for Dempster. Dempster has been less effective than either Marquis or Lieber this spring. And unlike Lieber and Marquis, he doesn't have a track record of being a serviceable starting pitcher.
Marquis has become the team whipping boy, but he still has had a better track record of success than Dempster, and he's had a better spring as well.
by SouthernCub on Mar 24, 2008 10:20 PM CDT 0 recs
I'm very concerned about Dempster....
... especially after today, when he gave up 8 hits and 3 walks in less than 5 innings. That seems consistent with most of his starting pitcher career.
He's thrown fairly well this spring, but you're right. Lieber and Marquis have a better track record. Unfortunately, that means Dempster has little trade value.
So what do you do? At least Lieber's there in the bullpen when someone fails.
"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx
by Al on
Mar 24, 2008 11:09 PM CDT
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I agree about Dempster
I think he will have a era around 4.80- 5.10 this year like he did in most his years with the Marlins. He's gonna have really good stuff some games(like his last start) here and there, he's gonna get crushed like he did against the Angels here and there. But most of his starts will be like today. If he gets a quality start or gives up 4-6 runs in 4-5 innings depends on a few things. How good the other teams offense is, and luck. Today he had some bad luck with some bloop hits, which caused him to give up a few more runs, but he wasn't facing a very good offense either. Dempster in most starts is gonna walk 2-4 batters per game, and is gonna pitch to contact alot. So if some of those hits fall in and aren't getting caught he's gonna struggle like he did today. The odd thing I noticed about Dempster is he could look really good in one inning and look like a totally different pitcher the next inning.
Personally I'm very upset Lieber isn't in the rotation. The guy has pitched very well this spring(looks like 99-02 Lieber), has been a solid 2-3 starter most of his career, and has pitched alot better then his era showed the last two seasons. Not putting him in the rotation right away is a horrible mistake. So pretty much we will have to wait for Marquis or Dempster to fail or a injury before Lieber gets a chance. But how much damage is going to be done to our season before that happens? I like our team alot, and think we can be very good this year. But the Brewers and the rest of the Central is better this year, we can't afford to play like crap for the first two months of the season like last year and expect to win the division again. Piniella taking the easy way out and putting both Marquis and Dempster in the rotation instead of putting together the best possible rotation with Lieber in it. Makes me think we could struggle again early until Piniella realizes some of his mistakes and fixes them.
by cubsfan25 on
Mar 25, 2008 1:16 AM CDT
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Yep.
I don't see this Dempster in the rotation experiment lasting longer than a month. He's just not suited to it, IMO.
"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07
by gary varsho on
Mar 25, 2008 7:12 AM CDT
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Agree on Dempster -- and a Few Words about Pie
I worry too about Dempster's effectiveness as a starter. Even when closing last year and when used in a setup role when Lou put him in that position late in the year, he more often than not put men on base. Granted they did not always score but Dempster got into more than his share of precarious situations.
Several starts this spring showed once again that Dempster puts way too many guys on base. He gets behind in the count and has to use a less than effective fastball. If the opposition lays off his breaking ball which is more often than not out of the zone, they get into counts where Dempster has to lay it in -- with less than spectacular results.
I would much rather see Lieber in the rotation with Dempster as a middle reliever.
If we get two or three good months out of Marquis, Marshall or Gallagher are in the wings if Jason should return to form when it warms up.
As for Felix Pie -- what we need from him is good defense and a decent year at the plate. With the rest of the lineup, Pie does not have to hit .300 to be an asset to this team.
For crying out loud, he just turned 23. Too many of us have been crucifying him because he didn't hit .300 as soon as he stepped on the field. He has the tools -- and at the end of this season, we will be saying what a really good player he really is.
by ceegeewow on Mar 25, 2008 12:33 AM CDT 0 recs
If Dempster starts putting Brewer or Red players on base
the results could not be pretty.
Both of those teams look to be able to hit.
I wish we had traded Dempster.
He reminds me of how I felt about Ray Burris years ago, I cringed every time he came to the mound as a Cub.
I fear this will not go well for us.
by Wisc Badger on
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Pie
I came here to start a Felix thread.....I am a HUGE fan of Pie and have noticed the short shrift given Felix on his wonderful day at the plate today. He has been hitting well this ST and deserves the starting job PERIOD. He will, I feel, surprise all the naysayers, Crisp fans, ANYONE but Pie fans this season. At 23, he will have a great year. Willie Mays hit .270 his rookie year. Leo Durocher called Willie when he was hitting .475 in AAA ball and said "I want you to be the Giants CF". Willie said he didn't think he was good enough to play in the bigs. Leo asked "Well, do you think you can hit 2f'ing70 for me?" Willie said, "I think so". So, he hit .270 in '51. I am not saying Pie is Mays but give the kid a chance!!!! Damn, he is, as already noted, only 23. CF is a defensive position and the great OFFENSIVE CF's are truly rare. SO, why is the press not noting Pie's great ST? I am convinced that today's great offensive day was the result of Pie KNOWING he is the starting CF. We gave Corey Patterson, who has not NEARLY the talent of Pie, the chance to grow up under fire. He was (and is, IMO) a head case who will prove this year that he STILL will not fill his great potential at age 28.
So, have I pissed off enough people here with this post?
by crazymountain on Mar 25, 2008 2:17 AM CDT 0 recs
I am also a Pie fan
and want to see him man CF this year, but let's be honest, it's not as if he's put up gaudy numbers this spring. That being said, from what I've seen of him this spring he has really worked on the things he has needed to in order to become an everyday major leaguer. Bunting, hitting the ball ON THE GROUND, working counts, etc. Here's to hoping he can stay on a level plane this year and play some effective ball for us.
by lilkimmer77 on
Mar 25, 2008 3:38 AM CDT
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Gaudy numbers
I would think .340/.386/.566 is at least approaching gaudy. I especially like how they were lower early in ST, when half the pitchers he faced were minor leaguers, but have gone up since then, while at the same time the pitching he's faced has gotten stronger.
Why does everybody stand up and sing "Take Me Out to the Ballgame" when they're already there? ~Larry Anderson
by JohnM on
Mar 25, 2008 3:53 AM CDT
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thats what i love about pie
he seems very willing to work on and improve any areas of his game that may be lacking. hopefully he hits the ground running this april and squashes thoughts of a platoon.
Bill James Felix Pie 2008 Projection: .283/.333/.456 16 HR 21 SB
by kylejo on
Mar 25, 2008 9:25 AM CDT
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You forgot the part about
Felix's scrappiness not showing up in a box score, how he should be hitting leadoff and being very glad that he does NOT have red hair. That would have pissed off more than enough people here... ;-)
Lou Brown: "My kinda team, Charlie, my kinda team..."
by ballhawk on
Mar 25, 2008 10:19 AM CDT
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I'm a speculator and never
blinked an eye at DeRosa moving to third. I'm a Cub fan too and know how expected that move is. More interesting to speculators in yesterday's lineup was Cedeno leading off.
Why does everybody stand up and sing "Take Me Out to the Ballgame" when they're already there? ~Larry Anderson
by JohnM on Mar 25, 2008 4:01 AM CDT 0 recs
Lou was just
keeping the everyday line-up together. Cedeno played SS and Lou as the SS batting first, he did the samething Saturday with Mike Fontenot. Murton also batted 5th filling in for Fukudome.
by cubsfan25 on Mar 25, 2008 4:35 AM CDT 0 recs
Most likely
I'm just trying to tweak Al, and probably failing. :-)
Why does everybody stand up and sing "Take Me Out to the Ballgame" when they're already there? ~Larry Anderson
by JohnM on
Mar 25, 2008 6:02 AM CDT
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One tidbit missed from the Felix Pie recap
His single was a drag bunt single. Very nicely done, too.
Also, Billy Williams calls him Pie (to rhyme with Dye).
Why does everybody stand up and sing "Take Me Out to the Ballgame" when they're already there? ~Larry Anderson
by JohnM on Mar 25, 2008 6:04 AM CDT 0 recs
Fergie's appearance
Al, I've sent you the audio of Fergie's plug. I don't know how to capture video off the stream, but in any case, the camera was on the field at that point of the interview.
Why does everybody stand up and sing "Take Me Out to the Ballgame" when they're already there? ~Larry Anderson
by JohnM on Mar 25, 2008 6:20 AM CDT 0 recs
Got it.
Thanks for doing that for me!
"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx
by Al on
Mar 25, 2008 9:47 AM CDT
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Video
I actually have the game taped and can pull the video and audio, however, I have no idea at what point of the interview fergie's plug came because Comcast SportsNet *does not caption* their telecasts. So if you want me to get that, please let me know (in terms of the game...outs/whoever's at bat/etc etc) what points to copy bc it was a long inning. I could just do the whole inning, but is that neccessary? Lots of space, hard to send/upload unless I sent a CD or something.
by cubsonWGN4ever on
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FYI: Comcast Closed Captioning
I don't remember if I ever got back to you last season about the problem you've encountered with Closed Captioning. I'm in the Philadelphia TV market and the games I checked after your report of difficulties were captioned. Did you ever contact CSN or Comcast and if so, how did it go? I think it's wrong not to caption, even if there are no compelling regulations (and I'm not certain there aren't.)
"Baseball is like church- many attend, few understand." ~ Leo Durocher
by The Lip on
Mar 25, 2008 11:11 AM CDT
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I think it's the chicago market
Because on every TV I've ever tried, when everything else is captioned, CSN never is. Whether it's a Cubs game, Bulls game, Blackhawks game or even a sports recap, it's never captioned. There absolutely are regulations that require captions. You can see more about those at http://www.fcc.gov/cgb/dro/ccrules.html and


