Open Thread: Cubs vs. Giants, Tuesday 3/25, 3:05 CT
by Al
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SCOTTSDALE, Arizona -- The Giants have the worst record in all of baseball this spring -- 8-19. While spring records are not necessarily predictors of regular season records, for the Giants, I think it will be. This is a potential 100-loss team.
All of this is a way of saying that if there's any team against whom Rich Hill might get his act together, it's the Giants. Hill will face the Giants' Jonathan Sanchez, who has a 5.63 ERA in 16 spring innings, allowing 21 hits and 8 walks.
Morning notes:- More Jay Mariotti idiocy.
- More Mike Downey idiocy.
- While the Cubs won't set an attendance record this spring, and the Giants are down 8%, the entire Cactus League may break its 2005 record of 1.27 million.
- Jim Hendry says he'd be "thrilled" to start the year with Mark DeRosa at 2B, and:
"All we really need before Opening Day is one more guy that can help us out in the outfield, and especially a guy that can play center, we're going to do that. I put that on myself a while back."
- Bruce Miles says that while it's possible the Cubs will get Reed Johnson (and that'd be OK with me), he also quotes Jim Hendry on trading -- and this, I think, sums up the last four and a half months of trade rumors in one sentence:
"I can only take the trade front to a certain limit to where if it's ridiculous I'm not going to do it just to get that extra piece."
Amen.
Once again today, you can find the game on CSN Chicago, and MLB.com radio at the MLB.com Mediacenter.
MLB.com Gameday (and yes, I've seen the "new" Gameday for the Red Sox/A's game this morning, and it's awful. As long as they keep the "2007" version active, I'll be posting that version.)
Discuss amongst yourselves.
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Mariotti column
Complete piece of crap. I can't believe they pay him to write that BS...
by WartburgCub on
Mar 25, 2008 10:34 AM CDT
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Don't let him get to you.
That column is not a serious piece of work. It is written purely to ruffle feathers. It's like a "Star" or "National Enquirer" piece.
"Don't complain to me about the stormy weather, boys. Just bring the ship into port." --Steve Stone, September 2004
by ctcoff99 on
Mar 25, 2008 12:06 PM CDT
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Wow, so true.
I don't believe that nonsense. It's one thing to back something like that up with facts and statistics, but he just blabbers on and on about nothing. Whatever.
Hector Villanueva's Career Stolen Bases: 1
by IowaCubs- on
Mar 25, 2008 12:53 PM CDT
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That Mariotti piece is garbage
But I agree with his sentiment that this team isn't good enough to win the NL Division. At this exact moment anyway. That doesn't mean that the Cubs won't make a move or 2 before the trade deadline, but right now, no way is this team good enough to win the NL DIvision crown. It's obviously capable of making the playoffs but it won't be easy. Brewers and Cubs are as evenly matched right now as it can get and it's going to be a dogfight, which will be fun. This season will be fun no doubt. If that's all you really expect out of a season, than this will be a great season for you. If you expect more, much more out of a Chicago Cubs season, than it'll be a fun season but ultimately end in disappointment.
by lemon20pie on
Mar 25, 2008 1:00 PM CDT
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I guess I'm confused...
Are you saying that the Cubs aren't good enough to win the NL Central or the NL pennant?
by WartburgCub on
Mar 25, 2008 7:08 PM CDT
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He must mean the NL Pennant.
The Cubs should win the division by defualt based on how bad the other teams are and the Brewers pitching injuries.
I'm drunk......and it shows.....
by Keystone80435 on
Mar 25, 2008 7:11 PM CDT
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Huston Street
Hey Mariotti! Tell Huston to go find the meatball he threw to Brandon Moss in the top of the 9th. It’s probably somewhere out on the street.
by 1060 W Addison on
Mar 25, 2008 6:41 PM CDT
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Man are those infielders pampered
Sori, Felix, and Dome have to slog through a soggy outfield while the infielders have a tent over their heads? I guess Theriot and DeRosa burn easily, what with all that sun we're going to have on Opening Day... ;-)
And what's with the sprinklers going - they just spent all weekend carting off the snow that was covering the field, and now they're watering the outfield? Crazy, man...
Lou Brown: "My kinda team, Charlie, my kinda team..."
by ballhawk on
Mar 25, 2008 10:37 AM CDT
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Got the keys to my new place on Kenmore at Bryon
and was showing a buddy the place and it worked out so great that they had the lights on last night too. I also saw those tents
"Hey.....Cubs win!!!" ---Harry "I strongly dislike Steve Stone." ---Hammer
by Hammer on
Mar 25, 2008 10:58 AM CDT
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holy cow
hahah that great!
I'm drunk......and it shows.....
by Keystone80435 on
Mar 25, 2008 12:21 PM CDT
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Maybe this set
is for Cedeno. They are getting him to run the bases without distration under the tents. haah
I'm drunk......and it shows.....
by Keystone80435 on
Mar 25, 2008 12:21 PM CDT
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Jay Mariotti
sinks to a new low with this one (if that is even possible). Mariotti professing to be the source of all that is true about the Cubs makes me sick. He overreacts more than most true Cub fans. A track record means nothing to him. I am at a loss for words.
by gwood on
Mar 25, 2008 10:37 AM CDT
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meant to say
he overreacts more than a lost of Cub fans. I apparently got influenced by his article and started typing in absolutes. I need to go wash my fingers off with soap, excuse me.
by gwood on
Mar 25, 2008 10:43 AM CDT
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a total moron....
..a column that a 6th grader could write with stunning insights into the Cubs hopes such as;
You say the Cubs have an awesome lineup. I say they do as long as Derrek Lee doesn't remain a doubles hitter, Alfonso Soriano rips fastballs instead of muscles and Aramis Ramirez is kept away from secret cockfighting arenas
Yes Eddie Munster, if A-Ram stays away from cockfighting, the Cubs will win the WS. What analysis! way to really give the reader of the Sun Times pamphlet some real insight.
Let me get back to you, will ya, Charlie? I got a guy on the other line asking about some white walls.
by JB 23 on
Mar 25, 2008 11:00 AM CDT
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The same
could easily say these things about any teams best three hitters. If any teams best three hitters don't perform as expected the team will suffer.
Mariotti is simply saying that as long as Derrek, Soriano, and Ramirez hit, the Cubs will be fine. No s&^t, really? Can i get paid to write such insightful sports columns.
by gwood on
Mar 25, 2008 11:03 AM CDT
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He is by far the largest turd in existence...
I am truly surprised that someone has not tried to kill that lowly, trash talking, waste of semen and oxygen. I did thoroughly enjoy his defensive comebacks to the Trib "punk" on the ST.
You could just hear him sniveling like the rat balls that he is. That was worth the read.
Damn Nutrisystem...I'm freakin dyin for some Italian beef!
by Kinky Reggae on
Mar 25, 2008 11:51 AM CDT
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So would you care...
to share your opinion of him with the rest of us?
As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.
by santoswoodenlegs on
Mar 25, 2008 11:55 AM CDT
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Uhh... Al...
a little policing please?
Hector Villanueva's Career Stolen Bases: 1
by IowaCubs- on
Mar 25, 2008 12:55 PM CDT
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Get over it people...
profanity?
I refrained from using such words as: shit, fuck, damn, bitch, and all other words that so perfectly capture the essence of mariotti.
What are you all complaining about? I thought I did that gracefully!
PS, sorry Al
Damn Nutrisystem...I'm freakin dyin for some Italian beef!
by Kinky Reggae on
Mar 25, 2008 3:54 PM CDT
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And so begins the Wood injury stories as well
by gwood on
Mar 25, 2008 10:47 AM CDT
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Man are those infielders pampered
Sori, Felix, and Dome have to slog through a soggy outfield while the infielders have a tent over their work area?
And what's with the sprinklers going - they just spent all weekend carting off the snow that was covering the field, and now they're watering the outfield?
Lou Brown: "My kinda team, Charlie, my kinda team..."
by ballhawk on
Mar 25, 2008 10:52 AM CDT
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Ok, that was weird...
I tried to post a new comment about Mariotti, and when I hit the "post!" buttom, it repeated my previous comment (the infield tent picture).
So yes, you are seeing double (my apologies) but it wasn't my fault.
Lou Brown: "My kinda team, Charlie, my kinda team..."
by ballhawk on
Mar 25, 2008 10:56 AM CDT
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Snow
I wish they would just push the start of the season back a week and for the first 2 series of the season have them in dome/warm weather cities. This would effectively push back the start of the season in cold cities by 2 weeks. I think all players and most fans would agree. I haven't gone through the schedule and figured out exactly how to accomplish this but I'm sure the MLB brains can figure it out.
Lets do it Cubbies
by slocs55 on
Mar 25, 2008 11:22 AM CDT
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But if they do that...
... the World Series would end in mid-November and then you'd risk playing the most important games of the season in REALLY crappy weather.
"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx
by Al on
Mar 25, 2008 12:44 PM CDT
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Snow
rain, mudslide. Whatever the weather is I'll go watch any game. As long as its safe for the players I say play ball.
I'm drunk......and it shows.....
by Keystone80435 on
Mar 25, 2008 12:46 PM CDT
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They tried that
In the late '70s or early '80s, MLB tried scheduling as many games as possible in Calif., Tex, Atl, and domes. Weather-wise, it worked out fine. The problem is that no team wants a preponderence of home games in April, as it is the poorest month attendance-wise. The Calif. teams complained loudly about the lost revenue, and the experiment was scrapped.
"I've never complained about it. I'm thankful to have a jersey." Mark DeRosa, 22 Aug 2007
by DeRoMyHero on
Mar 25, 2008 1:15 PM CDT
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What, are they having a wedding on the field?
n/t
"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx
by Al on
Mar 25, 2008 12:58 PM CDT
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I forgot to mention...
that the return of scheduled double headers would be necessary with my proposal.
This is now the point where someone tells me that there is a stipulation in the CBA where there can't be scheduled double headers.
Lets do it Cubbies
by slocs55 on
Mar 25, 2008 1:01 PM CDT
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Or just
shorten the schedule and dump the interleague play. The interleague play is ok. It was fun when it started. Having it as an every year deal makes it lose its luster.
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by Keystone80435 on
Mar 25, 2008 1:04 PM CDT
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That'll never happen either.
Teams have 81 home dates. Each one translates into millions of dollars. You think any team is going to be willing to give one up?
"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx
by Al on
Mar 25, 2008 1:05 PM CDT
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of course not
but thats what i'd do IF the only otion was to shorten the schedule.
I'm drunk......and it shows.....
by Keystone80435 on
Mar 25, 2008 1:10 PM CDT
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The only reason
I can think the sprinklers would be on is cuz of the new drainage system. Maybe it took all the water away and their watering now to get a little more growth out of the grass so they can cut whats been damaged on top. No idea. Maybe they're testing the water ssytem to make sure nothing froze and broke.
I'm drunk......and it shows.....
by Keystone80435 on
Mar 25, 2008 1:15 PM CDT
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New Gameday version
I thought it was okay. Can't you post a link for both versions and let your readers decide?
by Neifi Puppy on
Mar 25, 2008 10:54 AM CDT
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Maybe.
What say the rest of you?
"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx
by Al on
Mar 25, 2008 12:44 PM CDT
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Glancing at the new one
I really liked it. The acid test, though, is "watching" the game live -- which I won't be doing at 4 am MT! Perhaps, if it isn't too much trouble, you could post both for the first 2 or 3 weeks then put it up for a vote.
"I've never complained about it. I'm thankful to have a jersey." Mark DeRosa, 22 Aug 2007
by DeRoMyHero on
Mar 25, 2008 1:19 PM CDT
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I'd like a link to both, as well, please
n/t
I've told you a million times never to exaggerate!!
by pscrblazer on
Mar 25, 2008 1:08 PM CDT
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You say "Mariotti", I say "very shoddy"
"very shitty" is probably more apt but not as good of a rhyme
Lou Brown: "My kinda team, Charlie, my kinda team..."
by ballhawk on
Mar 25, 2008 10:59 AM CDT
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I have only read his
column from say 7 years ago. Has he always been this bad? I mean the guy writes like a child who lost his candy at Halloween. Get over YOURSELF Jay. Whinning piece of garbage, ENOUGH of the negative, 6th grade approach to writing.
Yeah Jay the cockfighting comment was really professional, wow what insight.
Go Cubs, and Kerry post 40 saves, and get the clincher in late, late October.
"Have You heard of the Boom on Mizar 5?"
by Grockcubs on
Mar 25, 2008 11:13 AM CDT
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Mariotti
I now refuse to even click on his articles on suntims.com, I don't want to give him the "hits". I think he is actually a pretty good writer but he is always so negative just to create controversy and that is what I dislike.
Lets do it Cubbies
by slocs55 on
Mar 25, 2008 11:15 AM CDT
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After trying (and failing)...
to read both those articles in their entirety, I have to wonder just what it is that these shleps do around the newspaper offices while their not sitting in front of their keyboards.
As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.
by santoswoodenlegs on
Mar 25, 2008 11:28 AM CDT
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Which one is...
Mariotti and which one is Downey?
Old Style is the nectar of life.
by Mordecai on
Mar 25, 2008 11:34 AM CDT
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Honestly...
This is probably why the New York Times and Sun Times are in a finanical struggle. They report too much of what they think than what actually is happening.
"I love this world. I hope hell is as much fun!"
by HIGGY on
Mar 25, 2008 11:48 AM CDT
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There is no question...
...that media (radio, newspaper, television) have gone from using rational knowledge to inform, to trying to do what they can to create as much attention as possible.
That is the world we live in, and I just abstain from reading guys like Marriotti or Downey. Neither of those guys know diddly about baseball, so they have no choice than to be outlandish in what they write. I do admit, Rogers is someone I read on occasion for strictly the comedic value.
"I don't like them fellas that drive in two runs but let in three" Casey Stengel
by MPH73 on
Mar 25, 2008 11:57 AM CDT
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This is exactly right.
Newspapers are in trouble. Thus, they stoop to sensationalism to try to sell papers.
We talk about it, but how many of us here bought the paper to read Mariotti's column, and how many of us read it for free online?
"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx
by Al on
Mar 25, 2008 12:45 PM CDT
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I thik it's a contest
I think the Chicago sportswriters have a contest as to who can be dumbest every year.
We are all waiting for that glorious October night when we finally win it all. Until then we will continue to cheer, never do the wave and hope.
by cubstoseriesby100 on
Mar 25, 2008 11:36 AM CDT
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In my book...
...there are many who should share this award.
"I don't like them fellas that drive in two runs but let in three" Casey Stengel
by MPH73 on
Mar 25, 2008 11:45 AM CDT
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the principle of the thing
Mariotti's formula for this column - taking the sensational, irrational, minority opinions of a few in a group and characterizing all of the group members as holding said opinions - is such prejudiced and unethical journalism that it makes me sick. I don't care if I see it in a sports column, a hard news story or a freaking restaurant review, or if he wrote the same style of column about White Sox, Cards, or even Yankees fans. Blatant prejudice combined with sensationalism is intolerable.
"These are the saddest of possible words: Tinker to Evers to Chance."
by bluebythebook on
Mar 25, 2008 11:46 AM CDT
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Like so many others in sports journalism....
Marriotti basically plays a role in the Chicago media. He is more like a sports version of a Hollywood gossip columnist. If you listen to him on "Around the Horn", he is actually a sharp guy and knows what he's talking about where sports are concerned. But his columns seem to be written strictly to piss people off, and every day he has a new target. For a long time he has been Ozzie Guillen's biggest critic (for that, I almost forgive him all his other bad traits) but he also hammers Lovie Smith, Rex Grossman, and the entire Bulls organization every chance he gets, and of course, he was Dusty Baker's biggest critic too. I take him with a grain of salt. He is an entertainment columnist, and I think his success is probably judged in the news room of the Sun-Times by how much negative response he generates, and I'm completely serious when I say that. The more negative reaction he gets, the more he is doing his job.
"Don't complain to me about the stormy weather, boys. Just bring the ship into port." --Steve Stone, September 2004
by ctcoff99 on
Mar 25, 2008 12:15 PM CDT
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Very well said...
...to say he is dumb is not the right read. The man simply has chosen (as has his paper) for him to write stuff that garners as much fan reaction as is possible. I would wager that half the stuff he writes is not what he actually believes, but is what gets himself and paper the attention they desire.
"I don't like them fellas that drive in two runs but let in three" Casey Stengel
by MPH73 on
Mar 25, 2008 12:20 PM CDT
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*nods*
I agree and understand where you're coming from. It just bothers me that mainstream news has sunk to that level of sensational BS. I hate seeing it, and I hate people gobbling it up and asking for seconds - though, I admit gobbling it up and complaining about it is almost just as bad. I usually avoid reading any of his or the other sports opinion columns in both papers just to avoid all the BS, but today I clicked for some reason and then remembered why I try not to do that.
"These are the saddest of possible words: Tinker to Evers to Chance."
by bluebythebook on
Mar 25, 2008 12:43 PM CDT
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Bruce Levine reporting Reed Johnson a Cub
...1 year $1m.
Looking for the story on the wire...
Let me get back to you, will ya, Charlie? I got a guy on the other line asking about some white walls.
by JB 23 on
Mar 25, 2008 12:23 PM CDT
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Dang, that was fast. Hendry in da house!
Ladies and gentlemen, your 2008 Chicago Cubs starting outfield: Soriano-Pie-Fukudome. Let it be.
by dat cubfan daver on
Mar 25, 2008 12:24 PM CDT
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an interesting read re. Reed Johnson's departure from the Blue Jays
http://www.thestar.com/Sports/Baseball/article/350031
Sounds like a good clubhouse guy
by cubsonWGN4ever on
Mar 25, 2008 12:29 PM CDT
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So is Reed
an insurance policy on Pie or does he bump Murton to AAA?
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by Keystone80435 on
Mar 25, 2008 12:31 PM CDT
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Hope not option 2
I'd rather have Murton's bat in the lineup and have Dome back Pie up in CF but they wouldn't have made this move if Reed wasn't going to be in the starting mix. Or would they?
by cubsonWGN4ever on
Mar 25, 2008 12:34 PM CDT
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Maybe they would
Hendry said he wanted a backup outfielder who could play CF. Doesn't look good for Murton's future as a Cub (of course, that particular thing hasn't looked good since November 2006).
Why does everybody stand up and sing "Take Me Out to the Ballgame" when they're already there? ~Larry Anderson
by JohnM on
Mar 25, 2008 12:36 PM CDT
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Instead of bumping Murton to AAA...
... it probably bumps Ronny Cedeno to AAA>
"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx
by Al on
Mar 25, 2008 12:46 PM CDT
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Oh
what a shAAAme.
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by Keystone80435 on
Mar 25, 2008 12:47 PM CDT
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I thought he was out of options
Why does everybody stand up and sing "Take Me Out to the Ballgame" when they're already there? ~Larry Anderson
by JohnM on
Mar 25, 2008 12:51 PM CDT
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Cedeno is out of options
Sending him to AAA is not an option. I imagine Cedeno makes the 25 man roster and I'm not sure how the signing of Johnson would effect Cedeno's roster spot.
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Mar 25, 2008 1:04 PM CDT
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Worthless...
to me then. If I am going to get a Murton jersey 25% off I need him traded, not sent to AAA. POOP!
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Mar 25, 2008 1:06 PM CDT
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Agreed...
I said elsewhere that I think Cedeno competes with Cintron for one of the backup IF spots. I think Fontenot and Patterson are competing for the other spot. That gives us a RH option and a LH option backing up in the middle IF. I think Cedeno (because he's out of options) and Fontenot (because Lou likes him more) get the jobs.
by SouthernCub on
Mar 25, 2008 1:06 PM CDT
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I think it's entirely possible too
that Cintron opens the season on the DL and the Cubs will get a good look at Patterson for a couple weeks.
by lemon20pie on
Mar 25, 2008 1:09 PM CDT
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Not sure how that works...
The reason I see Cintron and Cedeno battling for a spot is because they both can bat RH. The reason I saw Fontenot and Patterson battling for a spot is because Patterson is that they are both LH.
Cintron can be sent to AAA, since he's on a minor league contract. If you meant Cedeno starting on the DL, that'd make sense as a possibility I guess.
by SouthernCub on
Mar 25, 2008 1:12 PM CDT
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I dont think Reed will start. I just hope he doesnt replace Murton on the roster. Send Cedeno doooown
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by Keystone80435 on
Mar 25, 2008 12:37 PM CDT
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Can't send Cedeno down...
he's out of options. Either Cedeno makes the roster or we have to trade him.
Johnson serves as the backup to Pie in CF AND replaces Murton on the roster. We aren't going to carry six OF. We'll have two guys who can play the middle IF (likely to be one of Patterson/Fontenot and one of Cedeno/Cintron), a backup catcher (Blanco), a backup 1B/OF (Ward), and a backup OF. The backup OF could have been Murton if Cedeno could have won the CF backup job. But since Cedeno won't be in the OF, Murton is out of luck here.
by SouthernCub on
Mar 25, 2008 1:03 PM CDT
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Probably both...
with Blanco, Ward, and Johnson in place, that leaves Cedeno, Cintron, Patterson, Fontenot, and Murton to battle for two spots. Johnson and Ward can cover the backup corner OF spots (as can DeRosa in a pinch), so it seems unnecessary to carry a 6th OF. So Johnson effectively bumps Murton to AAA. At the same time, Johnson is the insurance for Pie, as he backs up in CF and may be the RH platoon partner for Pie (if necessary).
Murton's only realistic shot at a roster spot was if Cedeno could prove himself as a capable option in CF. That would have allowed Murton to be the RH option as the 5th OF. Bringing in a pure OF like Johnson makes Murton completely expendable.
by SouthernCub on
Mar 25, 2008 1:00 PM CDT
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A vote of confidence for Pie
As we all saw yesterday, he's crazy fast and can get to almost every ball before it hits the ground or right after it does. He's learning the fundamentals of getting on base - drag bunts, plate discipline and he's displayed great talent at hitting the ball in various spots. He is a YOUNG kid and was prone to nervousness his first season. I do think that because of his friendship with Soriano, he may have tried to emulate him a little bit in that loopy swing he showed sometimes. Fortunately, someone seems to have said something and knocked some sense into him as we've been seeing a far more compact and effective swing. His legs will stretch doubles into triples like the one which won the game yesterday.
Another thing I want to point out - I don't know if anyone remembers this, but last year at the beginning of the season he threw a FROZEN ROPE to throw someone out at home plate. That was my Pie awakening. He's gonna have quite a nice highlight reel before his career is done.
If someone has a clip of that frozen rope, let me know and I'll start compiling that highlight reel.
by cubsonWGN4ever on
Mar 25, 2008 12:24 PM CDT
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Reed Johnson
If this is true, I really like this signing, getting a good clubhouse guy, from the way it sounds. a career .281 hitter with a pretty solid arm, and we don't have to give up any of our prospects for him.
by 23Ryno on
Mar 25, 2008 12:37 PM CDT
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AND
it didnt cost the team any players. Good addition.
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by Keystone80435 on
Mar 25, 2008 12:38 PM CDT
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Right keystone
That's what I like about this signing more than anything. I don't mind the addition of Johnson and I imagine he's aware that he simply will be the 4th OF. I would've liked the addition of Devanon too though. I watch a lot of Angel games and he's a gamer and plays a very good Defensive CF. I'm Ok with Johnson though.
by lemon20pie on
Mar 25, 2008 1:07 PM CDT
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Still
Id rather have Murton at the plate.
Mmm maybe Johnson's clubhouse presence will change my mind.
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Mar 25, 2008 1:08 PM CDT
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Same here
But I dont know anything about Johnson. i'll have to wait and see what he contributes.
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Johnson is basically Murton
Murton might be the better offensive player but Johnson is the superior defender and most importantly can play or has played CF>
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Poor Sue
At least she still has Soto....
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I just hope
Matt goes to a team that will play him.
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He would have looked good
in a Rangers uni. If this move kills the Byrd deal then the only dragged out rumor is still the Trade That Shall Not Be Named and the O's dont really need another outfielder.
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OF A vs. OF B
*Right handed hitting Outfielder A Projections:*
405ab, 55runs, 13hr, 56rbi, 3sb, .296/.365/.454
*Right handed hitting Outfielder B Projections:*
275ab, 40runs, 6hr, 40rbi, 3sb, .273/.342/.407
Yeah, I'd rather have Matt Murton over Reed Johnson, too.
Hector Villanueva's Career Stolen Bases: 1
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I have no idea what all this means for Murton
but I hope he stays on the big boy roster.
So does this officially kill the Byrd deal?
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It means
His skill is gonna be wasted once again.
Id rather see him get traded in a big deal and get on a starting roster, even if i do love him on the cubs.
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Yeah it's a RED HEADED CONSPIRACY!
Someone call the players union to see if there's any discrimination going on here. Poor Murton.
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Dang
Baltimore doesnt need an outfielder. Poor Murton.
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Keith Law blogs on Cubs
Insider piece, so no link. General gist:
- KL thinks Wood as the closer is just right and that the Cubs may have the best 'pen in the league.
- After watching Dome in BP, he thinks there's a good chance the Bobby Abreu comp holds water
- He gives a good analysis of Pie's swing
- Murton is "being wasted on the Cubs' bench"
All in all, it's worth the read.
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Dome/Abreu?
Dome has that much power? I havent really seen him so I have no clue. I thought Dome was more of a line drive/singles guy.
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Clarifying quote
"lots of walks and strikeouts, above-average, good but not huge home run totals." I'm guessing he means 15-HR power with lots of doubles.
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got it
i wasnt sure what Abreu comp meant.
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I think Murton
will be traded in the next few days. It will probably be for A-ball prospects. We will probably get guys with very good arms but are very raw like Todd Walker for Ceda type deal.
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Is that speculation?
...or is is real?
For some reason I thought the Cubs were in "win now" mode. Wouldn't it make more sense to get a sub-par, has-been center fielder with a huge contract?
I'm sorry if that sounded snooty, but I think it would be a huge shame to give up on Murton who is cheap, entering the early part of his prime, and lets face it, red headed.
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I'd Send Him To AAA...
...and look for the right trade under our terms.
Jacque Jones is gone, and I doubt Ivan DeJesus would mind this!
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Or you know,
we could just let him serve as the 4th outfielder. Sheesh.
I guess there's a reason I'm not a GM, but still, it's a shame.
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Right, but...
...Murton can't play centerfield. That's kinda why this whole Reed Johnson thing went down.
Ladies and gentlemen, your 2008 Chicago Cubs starting outfield: Soriano-Pie-Fukudome. Let it be.
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Hasnt Murton
been playing a few innings in CF this spring? Lou must not have liked what he saw.
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I think
it was Dome in center and murton in right
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Then trade him...
to the Blue Jays where they could use a little more OF production. 8-p
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The Red Sox Want Him...
...back.
Jacque Jones is gone, and I doubt Ivan DeJesus would mind this!
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he'd just sut the bench in Boston too though right? I say send him to Torontooooooooo!
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No, that was Cedeno.
Ladies and gentlemen, your 2008 Chicago Cubs starting outfield: Soriano-Pie-Fukudome. Let it be.
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Reed Johnson...
...starts in CF today?
Can anyone confirm?
Jacque Jones is gone, and I doubt Ivan DeJesus would mind this!
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Lineups
Cubs
Theriot, SS
Johnson, CF
Lee, 1B
Ramirez, 3B
Fukudome, RF
DeRosa, 2B
Murton, LF
Soto, C
Hill, P
Giants
Davis, LF
Velez, 2B
Winn, RF
Rowand, CF
Aurilia, 3B
Ortmeier, 1B
Holm, C
Bocock, SS
Sanchez, P
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Thanks Bruce.
At least I'll get to see Matt in LF before they trade him. :-(
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A farewell to Matty
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You always deserve this
"Hey.....Cubs win!!!" ---Harry "I strongly dislike Steve Stone." ---Hammer
by Hammer on
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A Big Red X?
Jacque Jones is gone, and I doubt Ivan DeJesus would mind this!
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Yeah, are you alluding to this?
Santosotherlegs, lil' help here.
Ladies and gentlemen, your 2008 Chicago Cubs starting outfield: Soriano-Pie-Fukudome. Let it be.
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Whos got the play by play?
I'm still waiting for my IT guy to fix the glitch on my machine that wont allow the audio to play...
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I can do my usual...
spotty, questionable interpretation of the games events. If you'd like.
As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.
by santoswoodenlegs on
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oh
that'd be great. Just highlights if you're busy. I just didnt know if someone had the game on.
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Mar 25, 2008 2:42 PM CDT
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thanks
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Just in case u forgot
its 3:05c soo no one has it on yet :D
I gotta drive to school and listen to the first 30 minutes but after that i gotta read the crappy box score from cubs.com
Or i could come here and hope for a sick wrap-up :D
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RATS
I just kinda figured that out. I thought it was a 2pmc start.
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HAHAHA
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And
Murton And Johnson just got into a fight...
Johnson gets traded, and murton gets the start in center.
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YEEEEEEEEEEEEEESSSSSSSSSSSSS!! HAHAHA
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Is everyone going to be ok?
With Murton, its like they are sending down Micky Mantle in his prime.
I don't quite get it.
"I don't like them fellas that drive in two runs but let in three" Casey Stengel
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I'll be ok with it.
No one is saying Murton is an allstar. We're just fans of the guy becuase he's paid his dues with the Cubs.
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More than dues...
... he had to break the "hair" barrier. Not many redheads make it in professional sports. He's the red headed world's answer to affirmative action. (and i say this as a proud father of a redhead)
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Exactly!
I always compared him to a young Roy Hobbs.
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But not quite Bill Walton...
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closer to Luke
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wow, right on...
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Its like that half full can of Coke in the back of the fridge.
You keep it for a day or two becuase you know it's still half full. But you never drink it and it just sits. Then you end up opening a new one and pouring the old one out. Total waste of holding ontop that half full and never using it.
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More like
opening up a new can of diet coke from the 80's
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HAHAHAHA
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I think
Everyone thinks that murton is an above-par player and hes beginning to enter his prime and we decided to push him off to the side for someone who is just getting worse.
Just wish we could pull the trigger on some better players.
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This all comes down to a hamstring?
Isnt that what bumped Matty from left in the 1st place? Soriano rounding second base and pulling up lame? Prompting the more sor Sor to left? Dang. RATS. POOP.
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Not really.
I think saying Soriano was moved to left because of the pulled hamstring is an oversimplification. Alfonso is simply more comfortable in left. Plus, the injury you're referring to is Soriano's quad pull, which happened much later in the season, long after he'd been moved to left.
Ladies and gentlemen, your 2008 Chicago Cubs starting outfield: Soriano-Pie-Fukudome. Let it be.
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Was it?
my mind is mush on this stuff. I thought Soriano was moved to left becuase he was coming off an injury and they didnt want him to have to cover so much ground.
Thanks for setting it straight.
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If he is an above average player...
...he will get his chance. It probably won't be with the Cubs, but if he is as good as most think, someone will deal for him.
With Hendry usually doing all he can to help out players to get a chance with another team, you have to ask yourself why no one has tried to scoop him up? Either Hendry is out of his mind in what he is asking in return for him, or other teams just don't value him the same way many on this board do.
"I don't like them fellas that drive in two runs but let in three" Casey Stengel
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They have the same numbers we do...
...and times ten. Murton's projected OPS of .819 for a left or right fielder doesn't exactly knock the doors down, but neither does Reed Johnson's stellar .749 OPS.
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I would think...
...part of the valuation process, goes beyond OPS, and that could be where others don't see as much value.
"I don't like them fellas that drive in two runs but let in three" Casey Stengel
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Murton plays better when he's a starter, and in LF
It was frustrating watching him stop-start-go-stop with Floyd in right last year, where he also looked uncomfortable defensively, and on the Iowa shuttle. He's also not a great pinch hitter. But he has no reason to play in the minors. I hoped his end with the Cubs would come from a trade to a team that wanted him, rather than getting bumped by a 4th outfielder that was released by another team.
Why does everybody stand up and sing "Take Me Out to the Ballgame" when they're already there? ~Larry Anderson
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He's a Georgia Tech grad
He'll just go be a doctor or something.
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My heart has
an empty place but it will feel better if Matt finds a good home where he can play on a regular basis.
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And it looks like the only way that will happen
is if he's released and someone picks him up who needs an outfielder. Any of the remaining trade rumors out there for the Cubs would trade him to sit on the bench I'm afraid.
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Well
Im off to listen to the cubs game, hopefully it feels like a regular season game just like last one.
Johnson goes....
0-2, 1bb
So exciting :(
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Murton
Now, I'm not going to start lobbying for Murton to get more playing time, or saying we should not have gotten Johnson. But Murton is one of these guys you just want to root for. Can't help it. I have to agree with Sue. The Cubs aren't going to have room for him, but that doesn't change the fact that I want him to succeed. I wish he would have turned into a young Mickey Mantle. Not gonna happen, but he's still a good guy.
"Don't complain to me about the stormy weather, boys. Just bring the ship into port." --Steve Stone, September 2004
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agreed.
I wanted Murton to stay put but a few people here made me realize it is better for Matty to play full time for another team rather than sit the bench in Chicago.
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If I was Lou....
Hill's spot in the rotation would still not be locked up. He hasn't had some tough-luck losses, he was been flat-out putrid. There is no other word. Dempster and Marquis pitched well. They earned it. Hill has not pitched well, and if he gets shelled today against a very bad offense, I would go with Lieber was my fifth starter. Simple as that. I know it won't happen, but it should. Hopefully Hill throws a great game today, and that's the end of these worries.
"Don't complain to me about the stormy weather, boys. Just bring the ship into port." --Steve Stone, September 2004
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Hopefully Hill...
...can show good command today.
Limit those BBs.
Jacque Jones is gone, and I doubt Ivan DeJesus would mind this!
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I'm
curious about Hill today. I hope he can put a good one together.
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Reed Johnson, In His First Plate Appearance...
... strikes out, swinging.
Jacque Jones is gone, and I doubt Ivan DeJesus would mind this!
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Anyone else watching WGN or MLB.TV
and getting the Cosby Show? An episode that just started?
Why does everybody stand up and sing "Take Me Out to the Ballgame" when they're already there? ~Larry Anderson
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So i paid money to MLB to watch Cliff Huxtable?
Why does everybody stand up and sing "Take Me Out to the Ballgame" when they're already there? ~Larry Anderson
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F THAT!
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Is there someone
you can call to correct it?
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Call
Deep Goat.
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Nope
Their customer service is almost non-existent. They cut off Cosby, so they must have caught the problem. Still waiting for the solution.
Why does everybody stand up and sing "Take Me Out to the Ballgame" when they're already there? ~Larry Anderson
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I am on hold with customer service, trying rectify this situation
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Kudos on locating a contact number
for MLB.TV
Why does everybody stand up and sing "Take Me Out to the Ballgame" when they're already there? ~Larry Anderson
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Still no luck
They have pulled it off the list of televised games on the MLB.TV media guide.
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Technical Difficulties
They are experiencing techinal difficulties and are aware of the problem
That is all they could say.
And they noted in my account that I was only able to watch the Cosby Show and not the Cubs game.
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So you'll be charged extra, right?
Ladies and gentlemen, your 2008 Chicago Cubs starting outfield: Soriano-Pie-Fukudome. Let it be.
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thanks for perservering
Why does everybody stand up and sing "Take Me Out to the Ballgame" when they're already there? ~Larry Anderson
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Somebody asleep at the wheel at MLB.TV
They are playing the Cosby show on WGN instead of CSN and the Cubs game.
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Arrghhhhh!
Why does everybody stand up and sing "Take Me Out to the Ballgame" when they're already there? ~Larry Anderson
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Right behind you!
Why does everybody stand up and sing "Take Me Out to the Ballgame" when they're already there? ~Larry Anderson
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How is Hill doing?
it's teh bottom of the first, is he in control?
2008: The year we put it all together.
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no one knows
cuz mlb.com is showing the cosby show. wtf
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Ground ball to theriot
One down
"I don't think anybody's paying attention to the Cubs." - Prince Fielder
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The Cubs
went down 1-2-3 in the first inning.
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Ball hit to the Riot
and the throw to Lee for the first out.
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I was hoping to see the rest
of the Cosby Show! Man!
As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.
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lmao
you put the jello in the pudding, daaaaaaaaa.
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CEDENO!!!!
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when
was the lest time the cubs got no hit? cubs pitcher threw a no hitter?
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not since the lights
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Pappas
1972
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No-hitters
For the Cubs: Milt Pappas - September 2, 1972
Against the Cubs: Sandy Koufax September 9, 1965 (Perfect Game)
The Cubs currently hold the record for both longest time without a no-hitter and being no-hit.
Old Style is the nectar of life.
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40 Years Ago?
Jacque Jones is gone, and I doubt Ivan DeJesus would mind this!
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Now there's no link
for mlb.tv at all. AAAAHHHH. anyone else figure something out?
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I turned off MLB-TV and put MLB-audio on
Someone let me know if they start showing the video on MLB-TV. They need to get their act together.
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CEDENO!!!!!!!!!!
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what game are u watching?
wheres cedeno?
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he's now a curse word.
Like Santorum.
2008: The year we put it all together.
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Ha ha...I'd be curious to see how many people get the reference.
Ladies and gentlemen, your 2008 Chicago Cubs starting outfield: Soriano-Pie-Fukudome. Let it be.
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I do!
n/t
"These are the saddest of possible words: Tinker to Evers to Chance."
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Just Nasty n/t
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Just sticking to the script
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Maybe SWL
can show you the graph he made for us.
by sue369 on
Mar 25, 2008 3:20 PM CDT
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Al should just post this...
with every game thread so everyone will know the proper nomenclature.
As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.
by santoswoodenlegs on
Mar 25, 2008 3:23 PM CDT
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Email me this graphic, and I'll consider it.
n/t
"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx
by Al on
Mar 25, 2008 7:51 PM CDT
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I already 'rightclick...save as' this badboy. It'll be my wallpaper at work tomorrow.
Poor Matty Murton....
by Keystone80435 on
Mar 25, 2008 8:04 PM CDT
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Comcast
is acting a little funky too. The bar at the top of the screen with the score and count was slowly inching down the screen before they took it off the screen altogether.
"These are the saddest of possible words: Tinker to Evers to Chance."
by bluebythebook on
Mar 25, 2008 3:16 PM CDT
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ITS MATTY MURTON!
He's putting the vodoo on the game!
I'm drunk......and it shows.....
by Keystone80435 on
Mar 25, 2008 3:17 PM CDT
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Calm, people.
I don't believe Hill has walked anyone yet.
Ladies and gentlemen, your 2008 Chicago Cubs starting outfield: Soriano-Pie-Fukudome. Let it be.
by dat cubfan daver on
Mar 25, 2008 3:17 PM CDT
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No but there were three
singles in a row, apparently
Why does everybody stand up and sing "Take Me Out to the Ballgame" when they're already there? ~Larry Anderson
by JohnM on
Mar 25, 2008 3:20 PM CDT
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Brewers have released Claudio Vargas.
Jacque Jones is gone, and I doubt Ivan DeJesus would mind this!
by initram on
Mar 25, 2008 3:18 PM CDT
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Any reason given?
Ladies and gentlemen, your 2008 Chicago Cubs starting outfield: Soriano-Pie-Fukudome. Let it be.
by dat cubfan daver on
Mar 25, 2008 3:19 PM CDT
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No Room?
Jacque Jones is gone, and I doubt Ivan DeJesus would mind this!
by initram on
Mar 25, 2008 3:22 PM CDT
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I thought they were already down two pitchers (Gallardo and Capuano)...
...because of injury?
Ladies and gentlemen, your 2008 Chicago Cubs starting outfield: Soriano-Pie-Fukudome. Let it be.
by dat cubfan daver on
Mar 25, 2008 3:23 PM CDT
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Pitchers
The brewers still have 6 starting pitchers in
Sheets
Suppan
Bush
Parra
Villanuva
Gallardo
The Brewers Bullpen is Full (all out of options)
Gagne
Turnbow
Riske
Mota
Shouse
Torress
McClung
Jacque Jones is gone, and I doubt Ivan DeJesus would mind this!
by initram on
Mar 25, 2008 3:38 PM CDT
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Ah, OK. Thanks.
I haven't been following that situation as closely as I should be.
Ladies and gentlemen, your 2008 Chicago Cubs starting outfield: Soriano-Pie-Fukudome. Let it be.
by dat cubfan daver on
Mar 25, 2008 3:40 PM CDT
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Will Hill be drummed out in the first inning?
It's already 1-0....must be pretty embarrassing to lose to the Giants.
by zevkalman on
Mar 25, 2008 3:18 PM CDT
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He'll Stay In There...
... for his pitch count.
Jacque Jones is gone, and I doubt Ivan DeJesus would mind this!
by initram on
Mar 25, 2008 3:19 PM CDT
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Have my examples meant NOTHING?
over teh weekend, I did a CLINIC on doing play by play... cmon, what's happening? How is it 1-0? How many outs? Who is up?
:P
2008: The year we put it all together.
by drewishdrewid on
Mar 25, 2008 3:18 PM CDT
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The play-by-play
of this thread must be infected by the same Cosbysian virus that's affected MLB.tv and the like. Yikes!
"Just because you've had enough/ doesn't mean you wanted too much." -Dean Young
by Kegler on
Mar 25, 2008 3:21 PM CDT
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You did a great job, drewishdrewid
I cannot compare to your talents...but let me say that Ramirez just made a good play to make the third out--end of Giants half of the inning. Giants ahead 1-0. Hill wasn't fooling anyone.
by zevkalman on
Mar 25, 2008 3:21 PM CDT
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Comcast "Feel The Blue" Commercial...
...rocked!
Jacque Jones is gone, and I doubt Ivan DeJesus would mind this!
by initram on
Mar 25, 2008 3:21 PM CDT
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What's Cool...
...is the black and white... and blue!
Jacque Jones is gone, and I doubt Ivan DeJesus would mind this!
by initram on
Mar 25, 2008 3:23 PM CDT
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the Harry Caray commercial, however
is awful, and Dutchie is justified in trying to have the campaign pulled.
I don't have a link to cite that, but my Mom told me it was reported on Fox News Chicago this afternoon.
"These are the saddest of possible words: Tinker to Evers to Chance."
by bluebythebook on
Mar 25, 2008 3:23 PM CDT
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Those Are Awful
Jacque Jones is gone, and I doubt Ivan DeJesus would mind this!
by initram on
Mar 25, 2008 3:24 PM CDT
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They didnt get permission from her?
WTF! i thought she would have approved. They cant just use his person to do those damn commercials can they? They use his name right?
I'm drunk......and it shows.....
by Keystone80435 on
Mar 25, 2008 3:26 PM CDT
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I guess not
I've been trying to find out more online since my Mom told me, and I can't yet.
They do use his name.
Perhaps they received permission before she knew what they would be like? I really don't know.
"These are the saddest of possible words: Tinker to Evers to Chance."
by bluebythebook on
Mar 25, 2008 3:30 PM CDT
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Yea they do
When the commercial start the guy says "Harry Carey here..."
I'm drunk......and it shows.....
by Keystone80435 on
Mar 25, 2008 3:43 PM CDT
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I didn't care for it
That kind of commercial is more White Sox than Cubs in my opinion.
by Neifi Puppy on
Mar 25, 2008 3:30 PM CDT
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heh.
It's not Harry they are imitating, it's Will Ferrell's batshit crazy Harry Caray they are imitating.
Yes, by the end of his career he wasn't as quick and articulate as he had been, but he was what, 84?! If anyone should receive some slack, it's Harry. But this representation of him is not in good taste.
"These are the saddest of possible words: Tinker to Evers to Chance."
by bluebythebook on
Mar 25, 2008 3:39 PM CDT
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Put some ducks on the pond for matty
I'm drunk......and it shows.....
by Keystone80435 on
Mar 25, 2008 3:23 PM CDT
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Top of 2nd
Aram 1-hop to wall. leadoff double
by lilkimmer77 on
Mar 25, 2008 3:22 PM CDT
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What Concerned Me Here...
...is it appeared that Fukudome was looking to hit the ball to the left side... instead of the right side to advance Ramirez.
Jacque Jones is gone, and I doubt Ivan DeJesus would mind this!
by initram on
Mar 25, 2008 3:24 PM CDT
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C'mon Fuku
ya gotta move him over at least
by lilkimmer77 on
Mar 25, 2008 3:24 PM CDT
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A quick aside
I did post a diary regarding Glendon Rusch a few days ago...it is official, he has been signed by the Pads. He's on a streak of 10 scoreless innings.
by San Diego Smooth Jazz Man on
Mar 25, 2008 3:25 PM CDT
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Geez
How many X-Cubbies does it take to screw in a Pads clubhouse lightbulb?
by lilkimmer77 on
Mar 25, 2008 3:27 PM CDT
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Has he gone on a diet?
Maybe he's stopped eating Gino's Pizza and is frequenting the healthy places in Solana Beach.
by zevkalman on
Mar 25, 2008 3:27 PM CDT
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He Apparently...
...dropped a lot of weight and looks good.
Jacque Jones is gone, and I doubt Ivan DeJesus would mind this!
by initram on
Mar 25, 2008 3:28 PM CDT
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Looks Like He Was...
...swinging for the fences.
Jacque Jones is gone, and I doubt Ivan DeJesus would mind this!
by initram on
Mar 25, 2008 3:26 PM CDT
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COME ON MATTY!
I'm drunk......and it shows.....
by Keystone80435 on
Mar 25, 2008 3:26 PM CDT
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A Nice Duck Snort...
...would be nice here.
Jacque Jones is gone, and I doubt Ivan DeJesus would mind this!
by initram on
Mar 25, 2008 3:27 PM CDT
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haha
I'm drunk......and it shows.....
by Keystone80435 on
Mar 25, 2008 3:27 PM CDT
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RATS
I'm drunk......and it shows.....
by Keystone80435 on
Mar 25, 2008 3:28 PM CDT
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My favorite Glendon Rusch moment goes back to his days as a Met. He called in a question to Mike and the Maddog on WFAN as "Glendon from Queens".
by leothelip on
Mar 25, 2008 3:29 PM CDT
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Do people even have a
mlbt.tv link for the game? wtf is going on here?
by lilkimmer77 on
Mar 25, 2008 3:29 PM CDT
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There was a link...
for awhile, but it was showing a episode of the Cosby Show. That feed was turned off and the link on the Media center page was removed.
As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.
by santoswoodenlegs on
Mar 25, 2008 3:31 PM CDT
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Technical Difficulties
That is all customer service could say. They are aware of the problem and made a note in my account that I was only able to watch the Cosby Show and not the cubs game.
They have pulled the link on the media guide for now.
by Go Cubs on
Mar 25, 2008 3:31 PM CDT
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Eventually, yes. It took a few beats, however.
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OT MLB.TV question
Do you see the game exactly as it is broadcast on TV, with Len and Bob? Or, do you have generic announcers?
"These are the saddest of possible words: Tinker to Evers to Chance."
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