What Happens In Vegas BETTER Stay In Vegas, and Open Thread: Cubs vs. Mariners, Saturday 3/29, 2:05 CT
by Al Yellon on Mar 29, 2008 8:00 AM CDT
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PrintAll you need to know about last night's 10-2 Cubs loss to the Mariners is contained in this note from the above link:
Raul Ibanez added a line-drive, two-run shot barely missing an inflated cow atop the right-field fence.
That's not all that happened last night, of course (Seattle hitters pounded five other HR off Ted Lilly and Jason Marquis, and in less baseball-related news, Kosuke Fukudome was photographed next to a Las Vegas showgirl, looking extremely uncomfortable), but that note made me laugh, as did the HR itself when I saw it, which was just about the last thing I saw before going to sleep to get up for work this morning. Good thing, too.
Let's hope that what Marquis and Lilly did DOES "stay in Vegas", as the saying goes, because that's not a good sign if it doesn't. The only other Cub who pitched last night, Kevin Hart, threw a quiet scoreless inning. The linked article also says:
Manager Lou Piniella expects to use all of his bullpen over the two days in Las Vegas.
Matt Murton may be traded before tomorrow. Or not:
The Cubs don't want to rush the process, in part to make sure they get the best deal possible but also because an injury in one of the two exhibition games in Las Vegas could create a need for Murton on the roster.
Gordon Wittenmyer writes that Lou says both Sean Marshall and Carmen Pignatiello will pitch today, and I would also expect Kerry Wood to throw an inning. Meanwhile, remember Michael Wuertz? Quietly, he's had the best spring on the staff, throwing nine innings, allowing five hits and no runs, with no walks and 13 strikeouts. Lou, for his part, spent some down time "using some of the casino services:
Were the services kind to him? "The casino services were cooperative," replied Piniella, who likes to play the ponies at the sports book.
Ryan Dempster starts today against Seattle's Jarrod Washburn. The Cubs will be the "away" team today and bat first. As last night, there's radio in Chicago (WGN) and Seattle (KOMO), TV on WGN-TV and also MLB Audio and MLB.TV via MLB.com Mediacenter.
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Discuss amongst yourselves.
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Lilly never established his curve last night
and it was obvious he was just getting his pitches in and threw primarily fastball and change, wwith a couple cutters. No harm.
Marquis on the other hand, couldn't keep any of his pitches down which is bad and bad.
Therioot sucked dubiously Hart was very impressive.
So what is exactly the rotation?
Zambrano, Lilly, Dempster, Hill, and Marquis?
Live is boring until March 31st strolls by..
I actually
talked my wife into watching the game last night. For us it was a 10:20p start here in MI. Jeez....Lilly, Marquis, TheRiot (who I love, but gack!) really made me fear for the year. It's only one exhibition game, I know. But it was only the second or third game I've seen so far this year, in its entirety. I hope to not see too many more like it.
"Just because you've had enough/ doesn't mean you wanted too much." -Dean Young
They
played that game like they were in a hurry to get to the blackjack tables. Lilly threw mostly fast balls and the hitters were swinging early in the count.
Fukudome did looked embarassed.
I wanna see this pic, but...
I don't think a search for "fukudome" and "showgirl" would turn up anything safe for viewing here at work.
"These are the saddest of possible words: Tinker to Evers to Chance."
by bluebythebook on Mar 29, 2008 10:46 AM CDT up reply actions
I hate that apartments at school
don't get WGN. The dorms do, but for some reason, apartments do not. I wish I was a freshman again.
"We are going to light up the SB Nation server farm like a Christmas tree." - cwyers
Ouch!
That game hurt last night ... and Marquis was being--once again--himself all over the place. Nice homer by Soriano; bonehead play from Cedeno; Lilly wasn't doing himself any favours, either.
Hope the Cubbies can pull their collective crap together and fashion a well deserved blue "W" today.
LRRF
GEAUX THERIOT!
by Little Rock Ryno Fan on Mar 29, 2008 10:26 AM CDT reply actions
And BTW ...
Trading Murton? Before tomorrow? What is Sue going to do? Yikes!
GEAUX THERIOT!
by Little Rock Ryno Fan on Mar 29, 2008 10:28 AM CDT reply actions
In Vegas yesterday.
Twelve runs scored in a short 2 hour, 7 minute game? Something wasn't right here last night.
Cub fans, as expected, outnumbered Seattle fans 4-5 to 1, maybe more. On the park itself, since there is only a small, outfield grass area, the small fans ran wild in the reserved seats, with lots of restroom breaks. The concession lines were outragous. The lines for condiments was longer than the bathroom lines. Guess they don't get many sold-out games here.
And as you may have heard before, after the game, the cabs can't come quick enough. Visitors here don't have rental cars, so there are thousands looking for cabs at the same time. You might want to do this once, then book your trip next year to mesa.
Of course, we'll be there again today. Hopefully the cubs can get their hitting on the right track!
Alfonso, Derrek, Aramis, Kosuke and friends...
As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.
by santoswoodenlegs on Mar 29, 2008 11:43 AM CDT reply actions 1 recs
thanks!
Kosuke does look a little... uncomfortable.
"These are the saddest of possible words: Tinker to Evers to Chance."
by bluebythebook on Mar 29, 2008 12:32 PM CDT up reply actions
Ok, I'm officially worried about Soriano...
Aramis and Dome both have their bats in the proper upright position, given their, ahem, 'surroundings', yet Soriano's bat is just hanging there. And he's next to the one in Cubbie blue!
Lou Brown: "My kinda team, Charlie, my kinda team..."
Anyone in Vegas..
Let the players know their cars are safely in the players lot at Wrigley. Two transports arrived yesterday and unloaded their cars. Still TONS of work being done to get ready for Monday.
"To know that I know what I know, and that I do not know what I do not know. That is true knowledge" - Confucious as quoted in Walden
What a mess last night.
At least it was fun for the fans in attendance. I'd rather see a HRfest than a pitching duel. Thats just me though.
The title here says it all.
Poor Matty Murton....
Fantasy lineup..
any suggestions?
C McCann
1B Garko
2B Pedoria
SS. Tulo
3B Aramis
LF Soriano
CF C. Young
RF A. Rios
OF Hawpe
UT J. Upton
Bench Felix Pie
Rotation
Peavy
Sabathia
Rich Hill
Wainwright
Jared Weaver
Phil Hughes
Joba Chamberlain
Carlos Marmol
D-Train
and Brad Lidge on the DL
I'm trying to trade for D-Lee .. for Joey Votto, Garko, and Lidge. Any suggestions?
if possible
I think I'd drop Marmol for Wood at the moment, for Wood will get you more points with saves. Rotation is great and if you could do that trade I would
Live is boring until March 31st strolls by..
you
going inside Monday?
"To know that I know what I know, and that I do not know what I do not know. That is true knowledge" - Confucious as quoted in Walden
Depends on which way the wind is blowing
If that predicted 10-15 mph wind is out of the Southeast, I might be looking up at the back of Al's head the whole game. But if it's out of the Northeast, I'll probably go inside and look at the back of Braun's big head half the game. Assuming of course, I can score a bleacher.
Lou Brown: "My kinda team, Charlie, my kinda team..."
I cant guarantee
but as of right now we have a 4th bleacher ticket. I dotn want to get your hopes up. But if you see the #9 Hobbs jersey outside the stadium Monday come up and ask if we still have it.
Poor Matty Murton....
by Keystone80435 on Mar 29, 2008 1:58 PM CDT up reply actions
Fair enough. That's the beauty of ballhawking...
If I don't go in, I'm just as happy hanging out on the corner. Sometimes happier.
Lou Brown: "My kinda team, Charlie, my kinda team..."
Yeah...
I just put up on CL a "want one bleacher for face only" ad. we'll see what happens. Look forward to seeing you either way.
"To know that I know what I know, and that I do not know what I do not know. That is true knowledge" - Confucious as quoted in Walden
Waiting for the
game to start on WGN and just caught the "Twist & Shout" scene from Ferris Bueller's Day Off. I love that scene.
Just
caught the end of Soul Train haha
Poor Matty Murton....
by Keystone80435 on Mar 29, 2008 1:59 PM CDT up reply actions
Full lineups
Cubs
Johnson, cf
Fukudome, rf
Lee, 1b
Ramirez, 3b
Soriano, lf
DeRosa, 2b
Soto, dh
Blanco, c
Cedeno, ss
Dempster, p
Mariners
Suzuki, cf
Lopez, 2b
Ibanez, lf
Sexson, 1b
Beltre, 3b
Wilkerson, rf
Vidro, dh
Johjima, c
Betancourt,ss
Washburn, p
"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx
well
I just pray that we DON'T see that lineup ever again
Live is boring until March 31st strolls by..
As do I
The second Magnum P.I. is over I'm switching to the game.
Poor Matty Murton....
by Keystone80435 on Mar 29, 2008 1:52 PM CDT up reply actions
Why?
I think it isn't bad.
"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx
Becuase
if Johnson is leading off that means Pie didnt work out
Poor Matty Murton....
by Keystone80435 on Mar 29, 2008 1:53 PM CDT up reply actions
Then
put Dome in center and Murt...........oh, wait.
Poor Matty Murton....
by Keystone80435 on Mar 29, 2008 1:55 PM CDT up reply actions
It
was a Murton joke. Sorry.
And I'm sure he'd play a game or 2 there if asked....wouldnt he?
Poor Matty Murton....
by Keystone80435 on Mar 29, 2008 2:01 PM CDT up reply actions
Yeah
he would play a game or two here and there, but not over a fullseason every week. That would mean some weeks he might be starting 3-4 times in CF and Murton in RF. Thats why the Cubs had to go out and get somebody.
Murton
is long gone.
Poor Matty Murton....
by Keystone80435 on Mar 29, 2008 2:04 PM CDT up reply actions
Pie
isn't going to play against alot of LH pitchers. Reed Johnson has a career 370 OBP against LH pitchers, and a 380 and 422 OBP against LH pitchers the last two years. It's very very very smart have him leadoff against LH pitchers. The top 6 in the line-up is really good, I wish Fukudome was second and Soriano was 5th against all pitchers.
Whatever works for the win.
Poor Matty Murton....
by Keystone80435 on Mar 29, 2008 2:00 PM CDT up reply actions
Why
Hows the line-up bad? I like it alot better then our opening day line-up we got a bunch of OBP at the top and our three best hitters in the middle.
ok ok ok
against a LHP this lineup is stout
Poor Matty Murton....
by Keystone80435 on Mar 29, 2008 2:03 PM CDT up reply actions
But I'd
rather see Dome and Soriano flip-flopped until Dome gets a little more consistant at the plate
Poor Matty Murton....
by Keystone80435 on Mar 29, 2008 2:04 PM CDT up reply actions
my opinions are 97% wrong.
Poor Matty Murton....
by Keystone80435 on Mar 29, 2008 2:09 PM CDT up reply actions
And The Other 3%...
...may not be right?
Jacque Jones is gone, and I doubt Ivan DeJesus would mind this!
the other 3%
is when i'm drunk and cant remember what I said. I give myself the benifit in that case.
Poor Matty Murton....
by Keystone80435 on Mar 29, 2008 2:13 PM CDT up reply actions
MLB.TV woe
Looks like they no longer offer the old mediaplayer. The new one, as previously established, is no good. Lots of buffering and jerky pictures. If it aint broke.....arrgghhh
Why does everybody stand up and sing "Take Me Out to the Ballgame" when they're already there? ~Larry Anderson
Oh
and the "full screen" only fills up half my screen.
Why does everybody stand up and sing "Take Me Out to the Ballgame" when they're already there? ~Larry Anderson
thats pretty lame
Poor Matty Murton....
by Keystone80435 on Mar 29, 2008 2:06 PM CDT up reply actions
You're right.
Just checked it myself. It's not terrible, but the old player was better.
FYI, the MLB.TV feed is about 30 seconds behind live TV in Chicago.
"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx
And
27 behind Directv
Poor Matty Murton....
by Keystone80435 on Mar 29, 2008 2:07 PM CDT up reply actions
in that case, I predict Reed Johnson is going to lead off with a homer
Lou Brown: "My kinda team, Charlie, my kinda team..."
I actually saw it before anyone posted it
maybe I logged in before the put in a delay
Why does everybody stand up and sing "Take Me Out to the Ballgame" when they're already there? ~Larry Anderson
maybe i'm not 27 seconds slow.
I posted GONE and I was late at doing it.
Poor Matty Murton....
by Keystone80435 on Mar 29, 2008 2:12 PM CDT up reply actions
Oh, it's bad
the jerky pictures are bringing memories of the 2003/2004 level of service back to me.
Why does everybody stand up and sing "Take Me Out to the Ballgame" when they're already there? ~Larry Anderson
HA!
I gotta take the Hobbs off the back of my #9 jersey now.
Poor Matty Murton....
by Keystone80435 on Mar 29, 2008 2:08 PM CDT up reply actions
Good move
For awhile there, I was worried you were going to put a 1 in front of the 9 and change the H to an S.
I guess we can remove the restraints now... ;-)
Lou Brown: "My kinda team, Charlie, my kinda team..."
ok i just got the SOBBS joke. Nice one haha
Poor Matty Murton....
by Keystone80435 on Mar 29, 2008 2:14 PM CDT up reply actions
that wont last. Murton is on the move.
Poor Matty Murton....
by Keystone80435 on Mar 29, 2008 2:18 PM CDT up reply actions
haha I loved Bob's comment
"who does he think he is, Soriano?"
Live is boring until March 31st strolls by..
I liked Bob's other comment...
... about why Dome should be batting 2nd.
"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx
Reed Johnson
kinda reminds me of Aaron Rowand and Eric Byrnes, but without the few big power season those guys had. But in most years those guys hit 10-13 HR with 270-280 average and 330-340 OBP.
Ichiro
talk about a man with OCD or superstition, Ichiro goes through the same exact process before every AB
Live is boring until March 31st strolls by..
Ichiro and Nomar add 12 minutes to each game.
Poor Matty Murton....
by Keystone80435 on Mar 29, 2008 2:17 PM CDT up reply actions
Longest. Half-inning. Ever.
Trachsel on the mound facing Ichiro, Nomar, and Hargrove.
Lou Brown: "My kinda team, Charlie, my kinda team..."
You could build a house in that time
Poor Matty Murton....
by Keystone80435 on Mar 29, 2008 2:22 PM CDT up reply actions
So ballhawk
your name isn't Ken is it?
Poor Matty Murton....
by Keystone80435 on Mar 29, 2008 4:30 PM CDT up reply actions
my name isn't a lot of things...
...but Ken isn't one of them. There - chew on that double negative for awhile...
Lou Brown: "My kinda team, Charlie, my kinda team..."
ha
I just got done reading about the ballhawks in Wrigley Season Ticket 2008. The article was writen by Ken. Thats why I asked.
Poor Matty Murton....
by Keystone80435 on Mar 29, 2008 4:43 PM CDT up reply actions
just wondered
if it was you who got covered in doggie-doo-doo for a Barrett HR ball hahaha
Poor Matty Murton....
by Keystone80435 on Mar 29, 2008 4:45 PM CDT up reply actions
that would be me
and that was a home run ball definitely worthy of a 'poop' call by Sue Actually it should be 'poop!!!' since it was a Cub homer.
Lou Brown: "My kinda team, Charlie, my kinda team..."
Later
everyone. I have do get some things done before the BCB fantasy draft at 6. It'll be over just in time to watch the HRfest in LA.
Poor Matty Murton....
Anyone know...
... how tall those OF walls are? They look like they're 40 feet high.
"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx
Well, according to the
Las Vegas 51s official team site, they're only 20 feet high.
Stadium Dimension: LF 328, LC 364, CF 433, RC 364, RF 328 (20' fence)
I agree though, they seem closer to 40. I guess everything looks bigger in Vegas.
Lou Brown: "My kinda team, Charlie, my kinda team..."
So,
Has anybody heard where murton would be traded to?
"Chicago baseball fans, who are composites of scar tissue and mortifying memories..." - George F. Will
In that case,
"Chicago baseball fans, who are composites of scar tissue and mortifying memories..." - George F. Will
I would not be surprised
they hang onto him.
"Chicago baseball fans, who are composites of scar tissue and mortifying memories..." - George F. Will
So far,
so good with Sori in the 5 hole.
"Chicago baseball fans, who are composites of scar tissue and mortifying memories..." - George F. Will
I defy anyone to
explain to to me what, exactly is funny about Carlos Mencia...besides all the jokes he stole from other comedians...and he even butchered those.
"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07
There is absolutely nothing funny about Carlos Mencia
"Cubs Win!!"
by northofwrigley on Mar 29, 2008 2:57 PM CDT up reply actions
Nothing
He is a joke thief and a liar. Dont believe me? Google 'Joe Rogan vs Mencia' Rogan goes right up on stage and calls him out in front of his own crowd for stealing jokes haha BUSTED
Poor Matty Murton....
by Keystone80435 on Mar 29, 2008 4:32 PM CDT up reply actions
"Mencia Bill Cosby" and watch the routine he stole word-for-word form Cosby.
"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07
Can't believe Ichiro dropped that ball
Don't see that everyday
--JB--
SBN's OSU Beavers blog
by Jake Bertalotto on Mar 29, 2008 2:58 PM CDT up reply actions
Seattle's defense is really horrid
this inning.
"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07
Maybe we should
use Cedeno! with one exclamation point as the bad one and Cedeno!!! with two or more exclamation points as the good one.
Nice piece of hitting
by Ronny there...
"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07
I wonder if there is a way to learn "baseball smarts"?
If Cedeno learns how to think a little on the baseball field, he'd be a very good SS.
I hope so.
Seems like it's more a matter of focus than intellect with Ronny. He just doesn't keep his head in the game.
"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07
Kosuke really has trouble
with cutters. Hideki Matsui had the same problem when he came over; he actually said no one in Japan throws a cut fastball, so it's a pitch they just have to get used to. Hopefully Dome adjusts as well as Hideki has.
"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07
I think he will.
IIRC Ichiro struggled at first, too.
"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx
Me, too.
It just sucks watching him struggle with those pitches.
"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07
THAT
is one helluva throw by Derosa.
"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07
He who questions whether DeRo has enough arm for SS
just received his answer.
"I've never complained about it. I'm thankful to have a jersey." Mark DeRosa, 22 Aug 2007
Not sure I've ever questioned that,
but, okay. I do know I'd rather have him at SS than Theriot.
"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07
That wasn't targeted at you, GV,
but at a generic "he". During all the talk about TNO this winter, most of the people who said that DeRo couldn't play SS cited his "weak arm". Hopefully, those same people were watching today. He might lack a step of range, but he's got plenty of arm for SS, that play being exhibit A.
"I've never complained about it. I'm thankful to have a jersey." Mark DeRosa, 22 Aug 2007
Agreed.
"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07
by gary varsho on Mar 29, 2008 10:00 PM CDT up reply actions
Sparkling play
by Fontenot there. Why is he still on this team whilst Eric Patterson languishes in minor league camp?
"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07
Seriously.
Here's a comparison of their ST performances. Fonty's out-slugged E-Patt, but that's about it. E-Pat's faster, IMO better on defense, and is a more flexible player on defense.
"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07
PECOTA
PECOTA projects them to be about equal at the plate, but agrees that Patterson is a better defender.
The point about his versatility is taken. If he can play a credible CF, for example, that could make Johnson essentially redundant.
Yeah.
I don't see why E-Patt isn't up here. Plus, he offers speed, making him useful as a late-inning picnh runner, as well. Perhaps Johnson will fill that role...
"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07
Not to put too fine a point on it,
but Fontenot offers nothing that E-Patt doesn't, while Patterson offers everything Fontenot does, plus the added components of speed and versatility.
"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07
LOL
Boooood Lite!
Ahhhhh, I must be drunk.
"Confidence is what you have before you understand the problem." Woody Allen
Oh boy, the irony
Advertising MLB.tv on a Cubs broadcast, when the vast majority of Cubs fans can't use it to watch games live.
That's it Ronny...
call time out -- quick!
"Confidence is what you have before you understand the problem." Woody Allen
What kind of pitch is he throwing?
It looks like a snowcone coming out of his hand.
"Confidence is what you have before you understand the problem." Woody Allen
Earth Hour: Turn off your lights 8-9pm Tonight
Just thought I would get a plug in for Earth Hour tonight.
The city of Chicago is participating as well as many major cities across the world. So just take one hour and shut off your lights from 8-9pm. Light a candle. Play a guitar. Read "Wrigley Season Ticket." Talk to your family! Whatever!
"Cubs Win!!"
Fine by me
I have a date with Danica Patrick tonight on ESPN2. She might like the lights off.
Poor Matty Murton....
by Keystone80435 on Mar 29, 2008 4:34 PM CDT up reply actions
oof.
Short leash for Marshall.
"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07
Blanco!
Heads up play by Hank White!
"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07
Who is this guy pitching that threw five straight strikes?
I'm sure Lou has pencilled him in as a starter...am I right ? :-)
Nope.
The Son of Red Baron (Dempster) has that slot...
"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07
Paging Mr. Marshall,
Your tickek to Des Moines is ready for you.
"Chicago baseball fans, who are composites of scar tissue and mortifying memories..." - George F. Will
you know what?
this kid hoffpauir is a pretty good hitter.
"I'm like the tide baby: I come and go as I please." --Johnny Drama
Hoffpauir
can hit, but he might have trouble besting Paul Konerko in a footrace.
"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07
Let's trade these minor leaguers HoffPOWER and Murton
to Cincy for that veteran CF Dusty likes, whats-his-name, Corey Patterson?
Odd motion by Bautista.
It's like he's aiming the ball, not throwing it. Looks like he's playing darts.
"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07
who got cut?
i missed who len and bob were talking about
i think it was woody williams
Houston's rotation is now:
Roy Oswalt
Brandon Backe
Wandy Rodriguez
Shawn Chacon
Chris Sampson.
Ouch.
Man.
That's 10 gallons of bad in a 5 gallon sack.
"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07
I Thought they were just tallking in general...
that sending a guy who's been in the majors for a while back to the minors.
"Confidence is what you have before you understand the problem." Woody Allen
Good job Ronny
Now do all that in the regular season.
"Confidence is what you have before you understand the problem." Woody Allen
Nice throw by Burke.
Can't blame Ronny for that one.
"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07
Was it? I didn't see the throw
and just assumed Ronny pulled another one.
"Confidence is what you have before you understand the problem." Woody Allen
It was a good throw.
Sometimes you get the bear, sometimes the bear gets you. Of course, since it's Ronny Cedeno everyone will piss and moan, ignoring that fact that ultra-SS Ryan Theriot led the league in baserunning outs last season.
"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07
Ryan Theriot led the league in baserunning outs last season.
I did not realize that. But hey, Ryan's *scrappy*. Fontenot, too ;-)
"Confidence is what you have before you understand the problem." Woody Allen
He made 5.
But so did Derrek Lee. Cedeno deserves his share of critcism, but not today, and not for that play.
"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07
Upon reflection,
I agree.
"Confidence is what you have before you understand the problem." Woody Allen
Ronny Cedeno is not particularly good at baseball
Tuned in late and that's the first play I see.
VORPy
Didn't realize getting thrown out on a great throw...
was evidence of being not particularly good at baseball.
He got thrown out on a great play by the defense. Tough break. He's actually having a great day though.
Snark not necessary
I saw the play, I was just making fun of Ronny.
VORPy
by VS on Mar 29, 2008 4:11 PM CDT up reply actions
Your comment was way off base...
that's why I was snarky. He's having a good game. His play wasn't a bad one.
Again, I was making fun of him
My comment wasn't supposed to be "on base".
VORPy
by VS on Mar 29, 2008 4:13 PM CDT up reply actions
Why make fun of him?
He's having a really solid game, at a time when it's important for him to have a solid game. It's just unnecessary.
"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07
Like I said in my first post, varsho
I just tuned in. I didn't know he was having a good day. I just saw him getting thrown out (on a good throw) and mae fun of him, tis' all.
Man, I better get out of this thread...
VORPy
by VS on Mar 29, 2008 4:16 PM CDT up reply actions
Hence we corrected you...
I apologize for being snarky, but if you can't admit when you're wrong, come on.
We're making way to much out of this
As for me admitting when I'm wrong, what part of "Ronny Cedeno is not particularly good at baseball" is wrong?
So why make fun of him?
Other than maybe to be mean?
It was a joke! Call it lame if you want, it probably was. But there was nothing mean spirited about it.
I said "Felix Pie is not a good player" after he grounded out in his fourth AB after getting a couple of doubles, would that make any sense?
Well, I would probably realize that you were joking. If not, I would point out that all the evidence we have points to Felix Pie being a good baseball player.
VORPy
by VS on Mar 29, 2008 4:36 PM CDT up reply actions
We're making way to much out of this
I agree.
"Confidence is what you have before you understand the problem." Woody Allen
So why make fun of him?
Other than maybe to be mean? That's the only reason of which I can think. It wasn't funny or clever, and it wasn't well placed.
If I said "Felix Pie is not a good player" after he grounded out in his fourth AB after getting a couple of doubles, would that make any sense?
It was a good throw.
That's how baseball works. Not Cedeno's fault, unless he has contorl over the laws of physics and failed in his duties to affect the trajectory of that baseball.
"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07
Speaking of pitchouts,
does Lou not believe in them? It seems the Cubs pitched out a lot more under Baker than under Pinella. No judgments cast, just a question.
"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07
Flithy, filthy out pitch
by Piggy there. He's really making a case to be on this team.
"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07
It would seem crazy for him not to be
"Cubs Win!!"
by northofwrigley on Mar 29, 2008 4:17 PM CDT up reply actions
I think so, too.
But I fear we're going to see Marshall until Eyre is healthy, then Marshall will go down to the minors to get some starts in.
"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07
Decision made
I think it's clear after today's side-by-side comparison between Piggy and Marshall, that Piggy will get the nod to start the year.
by John Q Freejazz on Mar 29, 2008 4:18 PM CDT up reply actions
From your lips
to Lou's ears.
"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07
Wow
Lou's got some thinking to do, IMO. Micah and Matt are hitting the cover off.
"Confidence is what you have before you understand the problem." Woody Allen
Not really,
unless you'd think they're better than the players already at thier positions (Lee and Soriano, respectively)
"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07
Yeah, I know.
It's just wish we had a place to put their bats.
"Confidence is what you have before you understand the problem." Woody Allen
Yeah.
They've both had solid springs.
"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07
Decisions have been made...
Hoffpauir and Murton will be in AAA or traded. There's just not a spot fo either of them on this team, unfortunately.
The Big Murt
laces one to center.
"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07
Nice hitting
by Fonty there, and by the team in general today.
"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07
Yeah they look much better than yesterday
"Cubs Win!!"
by northofwrigley on Mar 29, 2008 4:26 PM CDT up reply actions
Yeah.
Great approach today, all around. Lots of fastballs thrown, though. Probably has something to do with it.
"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07
Here comes Wood.
Knock 'em the creek, Kerry!
"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07
Did the gun
just register 101 MPH? Holy hell.
"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07
Thy say it's off, but it's fast
"Cubs Win!!"
by northofwrigley on Mar 29, 2008 4:32 PM CDT up reply actions
BB made a comment
about the gun being "a little hot" today. Regardless this is good stuff
"Confidence is what you have before you understand the problem." Woody Allen
Actually
Bob and Len said the radar gun on the stadium scoreboard was a little hotter than the WGN one -- the scoreboard registered 99 on one that registered 98 on the TV.
by John Q Freejazz on Mar 29, 2008 4:36 PM CDT up reply actions
This hitter is so overmatched,
it's not even funny.
"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07
Come on, Kerry.
Get back in there.
"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07
Wah-wah-wee-wah.
GREAT play by Kerry.
"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07
Wood is looking good
no matter the hit and the walk.
They're chanting Kerry
He K's him to end it!
"Cubs Win!!"
PWNED!!!!!!!!!!!
That guy had no chance. Great job by Kerry.
"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07
Besides yesterday
the Cubs lookd great the last 6 games or so. Great way to end ST
Poor Matty Murton....
And in all fairness
Cedeno looked pretty good the past few games. Getting tossed out stealing happens. I we're gonna have him we might as well have him playing well.
Poor Matty Murton....
Agreed.
Don't spend that $10.00 all in one place now.
"Confidence is what you have before you understand the problem." Woody Allen
I'll be spening it
at Wrigley on Monday. And it was really $10.50. Cubs were the underdog.
bet 10.00 to win 10.50 (paid 20.5) Result: Wager Won
Cubs(Chicago) xxxxxx 4
Mariners(Seattle) xxxxxx 2 03/29/08(15:05 ET)
Cubs(Chicago) +105
Poor Matty Murton....
by Keystone80435 on Mar 29, 2008 4:47 PM CDT up reply actions
I can only wish.
I'll be at the office where they just outlawed personal use of the Internet.
Have Fun!!
"Confidence is what you have before you understand the problem." Woody Allen
Bummer
did they outlaw radios?
Poor Matty Murton....
by Keystone80435 on Mar 29, 2008 4:53 PM CDT up reply actions
Hmmm.
Good idea. I haven't listened to a ballgame on the radio since I was a kid. Do they still sell those things?
"Confidence is what you have before you understand the problem." Woody Allen
You can get a portable XM radio and listen to ALL the games.
Poor Matty Murton....
by Keystone80435 on Mar 29, 2008 5:00 PM CDT up reply actions
I'm assuming you cant go to mlb.com with the new interweb rules at the office. But if you can do that but a Cubs Club membership and you get all the Cubs games on mlb.com audio for $19.95
Poor Matty Murton....
by Keystone80435 on Mar 29, 2008 5:01 PM CDT up reply actions
Yep.
"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07
They're coming home
Soon they will be on a plane to Chicago coming home to start the season that will hopefully be THE season.
We are all waiting for that glorious October night when we finally win it all. Until then we will continue to cheer, never do the wave and hope.
Last night
Last night I was at the Rush game (GREAT EXPERIENCE DEFINITelY RECOMMEND IT).
What I gather is Lily wasn't as bad as the numbers look right?
We are all waiting for that glorious October night when we finally win it all. Until then we will continue to cheer, never do the wave and hope.
if you like the Rush
you'll LOVE the Chicago Slaughter haha Sears Centre. No nets. Every ball goes in the stands on kicks. (and you get to keep them) I love seeing 45 year old dads falling down and fighting kids to get a ball hahaha
Poor Matty Murton....
by Keystone80435 on Mar 29, 2008 5:07 PM CDT up reply actions
Rush
Rush plays in my backyard just about. The Slaughter is harder to go to. Wolves and Rush both recommended very highly esp. for a young family.
We are all waiting for that glorious October night when we finally win it all. Until then we will continue to cheer, never do the wave and hope.
by puckishcubsfan on Mar 29, 2008 5:54 PM CDT up reply actions
I agree
The Wolves are great.
Poor Matty Murton....
by Keystone80435 on Mar 29, 2008 5:55 PM CDT up reply actions
With young kids
If you have a young family the Wolves are a great bargain. We go about 5-7 times a year.
My kids love the Wolves and loved the Rush last night (first game we ever went to),
We are all waiting for that glorious October night when we finally win it all. Until then we will continue to cheer, never do the wave and hope.
by puckishcubsfan on Mar 29, 2008 5:58 PM CDT up reply actions
I've only been to 1 Rush game. I loved it. The Slaughter is a bunch of college kids running around crazy. It's bush league for sure.
Poor Matty Murton....
by Keystone80435 on Mar 29, 2008 5:59 PM CDT up reply actions
if
the Rush are AAA then the Slaughter are below single A. Rookie league haha
Poor Matty Murton....
by Keystone80435 on Mar 29, 2008 5:08 PM CDT up reply actions
Nice way to
end ST. I want to see them have a great season but after getting burned by the Bulls this season I'll take it one game at a time.
It was nice to see Kerry
close out the game and collecting the last out and have the fans cheering him on for that last out. He's gonna perfect for this job. When the Wrigley fans do it for real and are going bonkers for that last out, his addrenaline will be pumping big time. I wouldn't want to face him in that situation, ever.
Yes it was
I wonder if that will be a regular thing during the season as well? How cool would that be to have 40,000 fans chanting your name?
I can't get 1 person to chant my name and believe me I've tried.
I bet it will.
Kerry is so loved by the Cub faithful. It would be fun just to be in Wrigley to hear it.
Joe Morgan really does hat the Cubs and Cub fans
This guy needs to let it gooooo. Just now during the White Sox and Mets game on ESPN, they did a promo for the Cub game on ESPN2 Monday and then Joe mentioned the unveiling of the Ernie Banks statue and Joe said that Ernie had invited Joe and then Joe said "However, I will not be able to attend, because I have to work for a living."
It was the way he said that made it obvious it was a jab at Cub fans. He didn't say it with a chuckle but totally serious and deadpan and dripping with venom.
It's possible
and even so, I still think that would be a jab at Cub fans. That's one of the biggest stigmas attatched to Cub fans from other team's fanbases. I've heard it on numerous occasions from DBack and other fans.
Either way he said it, it wasn't said in jest and wasn't good natured. He's just a dick.
I cant stand him...did he bring up his insult that he made..
..about Banks last year? During a Sunday Night Baseball telecast, a HR was hit into the basket....Banks name came up and he said "that's where alot of Ernie's HR's landed, that basket helped him hit those 500 HR's"
Of course Joe didnt know, remember or bother to check pre insult that the basket wasnt there during a majority of Ernie's carrer.
Let me get back to you, will ya, Charlie? I got a guy on the other line asking about some white walls.
The basket was only there for the last year
of Ernie's career. Not hearing the comment but just reading it, it sounds like a jab at Ernie personally (the Elia angle would seem to be way to clever and subtle for Morgan, although not impossible). Maybe he's jealous of the success that Ernie apparently earned for himself after his baseball career ended. I seem to remember Ernie building a successful business.
Why does everybody stand up and sing "Take Me Out to the Ballgame" when they're already there? ~Larry Anderson
It could also have been
completely innocent and literal. Maybe Joe Morgan actually has to work that day.
Why does everybody stand up and sing "Take Me Out to the Ballgame" when they're already there? ~Larry Anderson
I believe it was intentional
Like I said, maybe you have to have actually heard the way he said it.
If it was innocent, he would've said something like, "I will not be able to attend because I'll be doing the such and such game on ESPN......" he didn't have to go there with the " I have to work for a living comment" a notorious label to Cub fans from rivals. It was premeditated and deliberate.
I'd let it go, but it's just another reason for me to dislike Joe Morgan.
Having said that
even though the reason why Cub fans loathe Joe Morgan is because of Joe Morgans own big mouth, if I was Joe Morgan and the way he get's torn up by Cub fans every time he steps foot in the beautiful City of Chicago, I wouldn't like Cub fans either.
I HAAAAATE Joe Morgan. I cant watch any game he does. He NEEVR talks about the game, He just talks about himself. He's the Tyra Banks of men. Anytime anything happens he turns it into a story of whe he played and the same thing happened to him.
Poor Matty Murton....
by Keystone80435 on Mar 29, 2008 8:34 PM CDT up reply actions
Olney
just predicted the Cubs to win the NL and said he thought that trade will still go through.
"Cubs Win!!"
I saw that
and I personally hope he's right on both accounts but I think the odds are better for the former to happen than the latter.
Earth hour is upon us here in the Central time zone
I've got a pretty good view of the Chicago skyline from my rooftop deck, and it was kinda neat watching a lot of the buildings go 'dark'. First the Merchandise Mart, then the Sears Tower, followed by the Hancock buidling and the AON Center (aka Amoco/Standard Oil building). Finally, the AT&T building went dark but they were a few minutes late. Somehow that seems appropriate - maybe Harry was trying to make THEM look bad from beyond the grave...
A lot of the North side neighborhoods were pretty dark as well. About the only areas that looked bad were some of the tall buildings downtown still under construction - probably some safety issues there - and all the high-rises along the lakefront.
p.s. I'm typing this by candlelight. Now if only I can find some marshmallows, graham crackers and chocolate bars...
Lou Brown: "My kinda team, Charlie, my kinda team..."
Light out...
Danica on. (though a lap down)
Poor Matty Murton....
by Keystone80435 on Mar 29, 2008 8:36 PM CDT up reply actions
I shut it all down, laptop included
Pretty nice to have a little peace and quiet for a while. But of course I head straight to BCB and plug back in!
"Cubs Win!!"
by northofwrigley on Mar 29, 2008 9:03 PM CDT up reply actions
Now turn on the
LA vs Bost game. 201ft down the left field line with a 60ft net from the foul pole to left center. And the backstop is about 10 feet from the back of the plate. WTF are they doing?
Poor Matty Murton....
I've often wondered - what is the sound of one blogger blogging?
Now I know... ;-)
Lou Brown: "My kinda team, Charlie, my kinda team..."
and yes
sometimes I wait for an answer, realize no one is here, and answer myself. I'm easy to entertain.
Poor Matty Murton....
by Keystone80435 on Mar 29, 2008 10:11 PM CDT up reply actions
Naw
to catch Al at the pace I'm at would take 349 days.
Poor Matty Murton....
by Keystone80435 on Mar 29, 2008 10:10 PM CDT up reply actions
Would someone please
check their mlbtv feed and tell me if they are also getting sound, but no picture. thanks
I don't have MLB.TV
but the Gameday Audio feed wouldn't work at all. I think they have a new "version" of their Media Player. I "solved" the problem by bringing up yesterday's game (under the old system), then using the "Today" tab to bring up today's game. You might try to do that as a test.
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