2008 Major League Baseball Predictions
When the San Francisco Giants played at Candlestick Park, if you stayed till the end of an extra-inning night game, they'd give you a button with a "SF" logo with icicles on it and the words: "Veni. Vidi. Vixi" -- which, very loosely translated from Latin, means: "I came. I saw. I survived."
Vixi. I survived. WE survived the winter, the worst in recent Chicago and midwest history. We have arrived at the beginning of another baseball season, filled with excitement and hope, and this time, the REAL hope, I think, that our favorite team will make it back to the postseason in consecutive years for the first time in...
I don't have to tell you that. You already know. In connection with that anniversary, Bruce Miles has a nice article in the Daily Herald today on that topic, in which I am quoted at length.
Meanwhile, tonight, the Braves face the Nationals in the inaugural regular season game in Nationals Park, televised on ESPN at 7 pm CT. Sun-Times political reporter Lynn Sweet went to last night's Orioles/Nats exhibition game and says the new park is, well, pretty "sweet".
And, today I will join all the thousands of other bloggers, websites, pundits, etc. in making my so-called "expert" predictions for the upcoming season. If you have been here for the last three years, you'll find this prediction format familiar -- and yes, you'll find most of this text familiar too (copy/paste being a useful tool). For those of you new to BCB, read on.
I started this format about fifteen years ago, when I was passing out my annual predictions to any of my friends who were willing to read them either with or without scoffing, because I found it both more interesting and challenging to do than traditional predictions. Even more so, if you're here I don't need to insult your intelligence by telling you who the ballclubs' best hitters, pitchers, etc. are. You already know. Instead, you'll find a pithy word or phrase describing the hitting, pitching, defense and intangibles of the thirty contenders for October glory.
I'm also not going to "predict" award winners. How hard would it be for me to sit here clacking away on a keyboard and be master-of-the-obvious by telling you that Alex Rodriguez is the best player in the AL and that Johan Santana is the best pitcher in the NL? Could Kosuke Fukudome or Geovany Soto be NL Rookie of the Year? Sure, but it could also be someone who isn't even starting the year in the major leagues, like Ryan Braun a year ago. Further, awards and league leaders often come out of nowhere. One year ago today, who'd have predicted that Jimmy Rollins would have been named NL MVP? Or that Joe Borowski would lead the AL with 45 saves? Nobody, that's who.
And in any case, anyone using the search function here can come back here in October and tell me how wrong I was.
With that, here goes:
NATIONAL LEAGUE EAST
1) PHILADELPHIA PHILLIES
Hitting: Healthy
Pitching: Suddenly solid
Defense: Excellent
Intangibles: Determined to make up for last year
2) NEW YORK METS
Hitting: Excellent
Pitching: Johan and then who?
Defense: Excellent
Intangibles: The pressure's on
3) ATLANTA BRAVES
Hitting: Fair
Pitching: Blast from the past
Defense: Improving
Intangibles: Bobby Cox wishes he had retired
4) WASHINGTON NATIONALS
Hitting: Solid
Pitching: If you can get to Cordero...
Defense: Acceptable
Intangibles: Spiffy new stadium
5) FLORIDA MARLINS
Hitting: Who ARE these guys?
Pitching: Who ARE these guys?
Defense: Outstanding
Intangibles: Lots of great seats available! C'mon down!
NATIONAL LEAGUE CENTRAL
1) CHICAGO CUBS
Hitting: At last, balanced
Pitching: Um, well, we hope it's improved
Defense: Don't run on this OF
Intangibles: The pressure of being favorites
2) MILWAUKEE BREWERS (Wild Card)
Hitting: Lots of home runs! Fun!
Pitching: Pray for everyone's health
Defense: Their Achilles heel
Intangibles: Heightened expectations
3 CINCINNATI REDS
Hitting: No base-clogging allowed
Pitching: Pitching? Who needs pitching?
Defense: Improved
Intangibles: Not-so-spiffy new manager
4) PITTSBURGH PIRATES
Hitting: Um, nope.
Pitching: Maturing
Defense: Acceptable
Intangibles: I still hate those red jerseys
5) HOUSTON ASTROS
Hitting: Lots of home runs! Fun!
Pitching: Lots of home runs! F -- oh, wait.
Defense: Acceptable
Intangibles: Few and far between
6) ST. LOUIS CARDINALS
Hitting: Injured
Pitching: Pitching? Who needs pitching?
Defense: Good
Intangibles: Tony LaRussa wishes he had retired
NATIONAL LEAGUE WEST
1) LOS ANGELES DODGERS
Hitting: New
Pitching: Excellent
Defense: Acceptable
Intangibles: Spiffy new manager
2) SAN DIEGO PADRES
Hitting: Send help!
Pitching: Solid
Defense: Improved
Intangibles: Four ex-Cubs. Asking for trouble.
3) COLORADO ROCKIES
Hitting: Yes. But it's Colorado.
Pitching: Kip Wells? Seriously?
Defense: Tu-LO!
Intangibles: 21-1? You can't repeat that.
4) ARIZONA DIAMONDBACKS
Hitting: Inconsistent
Pitching: In turmoil
Defense: Good enough
Intangibles: 2007: 712 R. 732 OR. Nuff said.
5) SAN FRANCISCO GIANTS
Hitting: Horrendous
Pitching: Pretty good
Defense: Creaky
Intangibles: Worst team in the NL
AMERICAN LEAGUE EAST
1) BOSTON RED SOX
Hitting: Returning
Pitching: Returning
Defense: Better than you might think
Intangibles: The pressure of trying to repeat
2) NEW YORK YANKEES
Hitting: Solid, as usual
Pitching: Young. Well, mostly.
Defense: Whoops!
Intangibles: Sit home this October. Watch Steinbrenner heads explode!
3)TORONTO BLUE JAYS
Hitting: Healthy
Pitching: Healthy
Defense: Improved
Intangibles: Going to petition to be in AL West
4) TAMPA BAY RAYS
Hitting: New
Pitching: Good starters. Bullpen, not so much.
Defense: Acceptable
Intangibles: Free parking! (But only if you bring three friends)
5) BALTIMORE ORIOLES
Hitting: Old
Pitching: Brought Trachsel back. Why?
Defense: Does it really matter?
Intangibles: Slowest... GM... in... the... majors...
AMERICAN LEAGUE CENTRAL
1) DETROIT TIGERS
Hitting: Loaded
Pitching: Loaded
Defense: IF: Good. OF: Not so much.
Intangibles: Something to prove
2) CLEVELAND INDIANS (Wild Card)
Hitting: Balanced
Pitching: Sabathia and pray
Defense: Adequate
Intangibles: Might win as many as the Tigers
3) MINNESOTA TWINS
Hitting: New!
Pitching: Newer!
Defense: Newest!
Intangibles: Excellent manager who knows how to win
4) CHICAGO WHITE SOX
Hitting: Unbalanced
Pitching: Pitching? Who needs pitching?
Defense: Defense? Who needs defense?
Intangibles: Watch Ozzie's head explode! First manager fired! Fun!
5) KANSAS CITY ROYALS
Hitting: Improved
Pitching: Not improved
Defense: Better than you think
Intangibles: Might challenge White Sox for 4th
AMERICAN LEAGUE WEST
1) SEATTLE MARINERS
Hitting: Key to success: Richie Sexson
Pitching: Excellent
Defense: Just fair (except Ichiro, who is outstanding)
Intangibles: Suddenly the favorites. Can they handle it?
2) LOS ANGELES ANGELS
Hitting: A bit long in the tooth, but still solid
Pitching: Injured. This really hurts.
Defense: Excellent
Intangibles: Will struggle without their injured pitchers
3) OAKLAND ATHLETICS
Hitting: Rebuilding
Pitching: Billy Beane always finds 'em
Defense: Mediocre
Intangibles: None that I can think of
4) TEXAS RANGERS
Hitting: Josh Hamilton. And then?
Pitching: Ugh
Defense: Fair
Intangibles: Can't finish lower than fourth
NL: Cubs over Dodgers, Brewers over Phillies; Cubs over Brewers in NLCS
AL: Red Sox over Indians, Tigers over Mariners; Tigers over Red Sox in ALCS
World Series: Cubs over Tigers. Because why would I pick the Cubs to make the postseason and NOT win it all... and, well -- it's time.
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Don't see the Brewers making the playoffs.
With their offense, they will win their share of 10-8 or 9-7 games, and I'm sure they will finish at or near .500. But over 162 games with their pitching, I'm not sure they can run with the big dogs. I'm surprised you had Arizona as far down as you do. They have improved from last year, I think, by adding Heron to an already solid rotation. I would give them at least a shot at the Wild Card if they don't win the division, but I think more likely it comes out of the NL East, between the Mets and Phillies.
"Don't complain to me about the stormy weather, boys. Just bring the ship into port." --Steve Stone, September 2004
by ctcoff99 on Mar 30, 2008 12:08 PM CDT 0 recs
Teams...
... that have significant W-L deviations from their projections based on runs scored, tend to regress the following year. Based on their 2007 run differential, the Dbacks should have gone 79-83 last year. They went 90-72, +11. I think they'll struggle to get to .500.
"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx
by Al on
Mar 30, 2008 12:22 PM CDT
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Yet
you don't hold Seattle to that standard, who should have gone 79-83 and went 88-74 for a +9. Why won't they regress?
Is that just your greater familiarity with the National League?
It's a girl! Born 1-18-08. 2246 PST. 8 lbs. 1 oz.
by Josh77 on
Mar 30, 2008 12:27 PM CDT
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Maybe it was just one game....
but Seattle definitely showed in Vegas that they can flat-out hit. Obviously Lilly was way off, but still. Adding Erik Bedard is key to that team. Man, if the Cubs could have snagged him, as much as we needed Fukudome, we'd be the overwhelming favorite to win it all, I think. But, we've gotta go with what we've got at this point, and I like what we've got.
"Don't complain to me about the stormy weather, boys. Just bring the ship into port." --Steve Stone, September 2004
by ctcoff99 on
Mar 30, 2008 12:30 PM CDT
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Right.
Seattle's a better team than Arizona. Period.
"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx
by Al on
Mar 30, 2008 12:34 PM CDT
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To be fair
Seattle way overplayed their expectations last year too. The difference is that Arizona has a ton of young players with talent and upside, whereas Seattle has a ton of vets that are far more likely to decline. Don't forget that the Snakes picked up Haren too, which should help further
by berselius on
Mar 30, 2008 12:44 PM CDT
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I really don't think so
I bet the Snakes finish with a better record than Seattle. The Snakes overachieved with a young team that should get better. Seattle overachieved with an old team that should get worse.
But, the fun part is that we don't have long to wait to find out which one of us is right!
It's a girl! Born 1-18-08. 2246 PST. 8 lbs. 1 oz.
by Josh77 on
Mar 30, 2008 2:15 PM CDT
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Generally true
But there's evidence that teams built like last year's Diamondbacks tend to always better their pythag projection. Chris Jaffe has an article about it, but the basic premise is that the Snakes' mop-up relievers are terrible, so they tend to give up a lot of runs in games that they were already probably going to lose, thus inflating their RA, and deflating their projected win percentage.
by gjdow on
Mar 30, 2008 12:54 PM CDT
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Brewers ...
They look solid again, except for that bullpen. Gagne out of the closer's spot by Memorial Day.
And the Reds, even with Dusty, still look dangerous to me. Maybe it's just cause Arroyo has given us trouble in the past.
Vote for experience -- Woody for closer 2008!
by mlf on
Mar 30, 2008 12:26 PM CDT
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Dont forget
something like 3 starting pitchers on the DL to start the season, maybe one out ofr the season and Ben Sheets history of aiments.
And you might be right about the Reds. Anyone playing 80+ games in that park have a shot at decent results in the win column.
Poor Matty Murton....
by Keystone80435 on
Mar 30, 2008 12:43 PM CDT
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ofr = for and aiments = ailments in Keystonese.
Poor Matty Murton....
by Keystone80435 on
Mar 30, 2008 12:44 PM CDT
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Agreed
Cubs vs Detroit
And my biggest curiosity is how the Cubs handle being the favorite. Will they carry that badge with confidence and go into every situation expecting to win? Or will the pressure end up causing a self destruction.
Poor Matty Murton....
by Keystone80435 on Mar 30, 2008 12:12 PM CDT 0 recs
on pressure
my biggest curiosity is how the Cubs handle being the favorite
Yes, we've been here before. This, I am hoping, is where the difference between Dusty and Lou really pays off.
by hoosiercubbie on
Mar 30, 2008 2:29 PM CDT
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I'm watching
"Republica Deportiva" right now on Univision and they're all having a good laugh trying to pronounce Fukudome's name. It's really quite entertaining.
"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07
by gary varsho on Mar 30, 2008 12:15 PM CDT 0 recs
I think
you underrate the Braves and the D-Backs. I like both of those teams to make the playoffs.
Seattle isn't very good, but the Angels can't afford any more injuries. If the Angels can avoid losing anyone else, they'll take it still. But if they don't, I actually think the rebuilding Athletics might win the division with 83 wins. But Seattle could squeak out 84 or 85 and make your prediction come true.
You are right about one thing--this is the year the Yankees, despite a good team and a good season--miss the playoffs. The only question for you is now "Which Steinbrenner's head explodes?" Because there are three of them running around now. (Assuming George is still running around.)
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by Josh77 on Mar 30, 2008 12:25 PM CDT 0 recs
RE: Assuming George is still running around
They way I heard it last, his body is still around, but his mind has left the building.
"Confidence is what you have before you understand the problem." Woody Allen
by BlueSox on
Mar 30, 2008 12:32 PM CDT
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I hear
his mind comes and goes. He has lucid days and days when he's gone. And as someone who's dealing with a father in a similar situation, that makes perfect sense to me.
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by Josh77 on
Mar 30, 2008 12:49 PM CDT
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Al-past record...
Al, just out of curiousity, what were your World Series Champion predictions since you started this site?
"Hey-Hey! Home Run! Attaboy Ronnie!" ~ Jack Brickhouse
by ronsanto10 on Mar 30, 2008 12:34 PM CDT 0 recs
Search the site...
... I'm pretty sure I didn't do very well. IIRC there was one year, either 05 or 06, when I did.
"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx
by Al on
Mar 30, 2008 12:35 PM CDT
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My Projections
AL East:
BOS: 98-64
NYY: 85-77
TBA: 81-81
TOR: 80-82
BAL: 60-102
AL Central:
CLE: 95-67
DET: 89-73
CHW; 77-85
MIN: 76-86
KCA: 75-87
AL West;
ANA: 87-75
SEA: 80-82
OAK: 77-85
TEX: 77-85
NL East
NYM: 95-67
ATL: 84-78
PHI: 81-81
WAS: 73-89
FLA: 72-90
NL Central
CHC: 91-71
MIL: 85-77
CIN: 80-82
PIT: 75-89
STL: 74-88
HOU: 69-93
NL West:
ARI: 94-68
LAD: 88-74
SDP: 86-76
COL: 81-81
SFG: 59-103
NL:
Dodgers over Mets in 5
Cubs over Snakes in 4
Cubs over Dodgers in 6
AL:
BoSox over Tigers in 4
Indians over Angels in 3
BoSox over Indians in 6
WS:
Red Sox over Cubs in 5
And my for real picks
NL:
Dodgers over Mets in 5
Snakes over Cubs in 4
Dodgers over Snakes in 7
AL:
BoSox over Tigers in 4
Indians over Angels in 3
BoSox over Indians in 6
WS:
Red Sox over Dodgers in 5
Whoever wins the NL is going to get steamrolled by one of those AL powerhouses.
by berselius on Mar 30, 2008 12:48 PM CDT 0 recs
To paraphrase Billy Beane...
The playoffs are a crapshoot anyway. (can't remember the exact quote...)
by berselius on
Mar 30, 2008 12:58 PM CDT
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I agree.....
Red Sox look like repeaters. I disagree that there is pressure to repeat. They already beat the Babe Ruth curse in 2004, and 2007 was icing on the cake. Everyone except Schilling is healthy and the surprise could be the comeback of Colon. Manny could have a huge year in the last year of his contract. The Cubs, on the other hand are under incredible pressure:
1) The 100-year-old drought
2) Pressure on Fukudome to produce
3) Movie crew following them around all year
4) D-Lee bad ST
5) Potential sale of the team
Etc....
"Hey-Hey! Home Run! Attaboy Ronnie!" ~ Jack Brickhouse
by ronsanto10 on
Mar 30, 2008 1:01 PM CDT
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So, you believe in curses,
but not that there's more pressure on a defending champion than a contender. That's a truly baffling metaphysics.
"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07
by gary varsho on
Mar 30, 2008 1:15 PM CDT
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A defending champion...
has already won.. What have they got to lose?
"Hey-Hey! Home Run! Attaboy Ronnie!" ~ Jack Brickhouse
by ronsanto10 on
Mar 30, 2008 1:20 PM CDT
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Well, for one thing,
THE TITLE! Thus, they are "defending" the championship. They're supposed to win, they're the best, therefore, etc. There's tons more pressure exerted by these sort of expectations than any "curse."
"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07
by gary varsho on
Mar 30, 2008 1:29 PM CDT
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Did I mention "curse"...
in any of my bullet points above?
"Hey-Hey! Home Run! Attaboy Ronnie!" ~ Jack Brickhouse
by ronsanto10 on
Mar 30, 2008 1:33 PM CDT
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Yes, actually.
[The Red Sox] already beat the Babe Ruth curse in 2004,
and
1) The 100-year-old drought
Now, perhaps the last one is a bit of inference on my part, but the first is inarguable. Nevertheless, droughts don't exert pressure, either. None of the players care, and probably o few of them don't even know or grasp it fully. It's a fan's problem, not a player's.
"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07
by gary varsho on
Mar 30, 2008 1:38 PM CDT
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No,
I did not not mention "curse" in any of the bullet points. Please re-read.
"Hey-Hey! Home Run! Attaboy Ronnie!" ~ Jack Brickhouse
by ronsanto10 on
Mar 30, 2008 2:06 PM CDT
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I thought I might add my blurbs to the predictions
(these were originally posted to my blog, which I basically only update with posts like these)
NL East:
This prediction would appear that I am all over the Mets' bandwagon...but I assure you that I am not. Santana is fantastic, but I say meh to everyone else in their rotation. Their win total is more a reflection of how overrated I think their main 'competition' is. I see Philly as a .500 team, great offense notwithstanding. As bad as their pitching was last season, several of their guys were pitching above their ability. Moving Myers back into the rotation was the right move, but I don't think it will make up for some regression on Hamels (good, but not great), yet more attrition on Jaime Moyer, the revelation that Kyle Kendrick is a league average pitcher at best, and whoever occupies the rotating door at the 5th starter position. Offense can only get you so far, and this team matches up especially poorly with the Mets, who also have a great offense but better pitching. While the Phillies are overrated, everyone continues to underrate the Braves. They do have the pitching to go with a decent (not great offense) and that's a better formula for getting some wins. Washington should be a little better this year...though I'm probably just biased since I'm a HUGE Manny Acta fan. No one else gets more production from so little talent. Their outfield situation should be interesting this year, but their pitching isn't going to get them anywhere. As for Florida, I hope Loria enjoys all the cash he's pocketing from the team and his new sweetheart staduim deal. Here's hoping they call it 'Taxpayers' Stadium' (with a nod to Dennis Kucinich).
NL Central:
The fact that the Cubs' record isn't much better, given so many crappy teams in the division (see the Mets, above) is that the Cubs are still a pretty flawed team. Their biggest asset is their bullpen - aside from that I see them as having a merely above-average offense and rotation (good but not especially great). Defense should be pretty good - we have 4 plus defenders on the field at any moment (maybe 5 if Soto is as good defensively as people are projecting). I am still a little worried about our D up the middle though. The club's biggest needs are upgrades at SS and at starting pitcher, but we're really only throwing out 3 replacement level players in our entire effective starting lineup (Theriot, Marquis, Dempster), which is more than anyone else in the division can say.
Milwaukee, on the other hand, has a great offense, combined with a very shaky rotation and a bullpen that probably isn't much better than last year's. The lack of depth in the starting rotation will make it seem like deja vu all over again for their overworked bullpen, and Gagne is definitely a downgrade from Cordero (and I don't think he will do as well as most seem to think). Actually, the best thing they did was sign Mike Cameron, which radically realigned their defense. Braun goes from a butcher at 3B to merely a crummy (at worst) defensive left fielder, which should be worth a win or two.
Cincy is a team with a ton of upside, but Dusty Baker + Young upside = bad combination. The fortunes of this team depend on how many ABs Bruce and Votto get. Even if they all get in there and Cueto/Volquez have good seasons, I don't think this is their year. But man, watch out in 2009/2010.
As for the rest, I put Pitssburgh above the rest on the strength of their pitching. They might have the trio of starters in the division with Snell, Duke, and Gorzelanny. Too bad the rest of their team is replacement level. St. Louis should just move their team to Birmingham, AL this year, due to their close relationship with Dr. James Andrews. This team is Pujols, Wainwright, and a whole ton of reclamation projects. I get the feeling that La Russa is going to just take it easy this year. As for Houston - hooray for the Ed Wade era! They should make their front office motto "Keeping mediocre middle infielders and middle relievers away from YOU since 2007"
NL West:
While Arizona's great season last year was kind of fluky, this year they truly have reloaded to make themselves a 90+ win team. There should be lots of development on their young players, and getting Haren was a great deal for them too. The NL west should be a tough division, but I think that they are the cream of the crop. The Dodgers should do well too, despite Joe Torre and Ned Coletti. That said, the more ABs Juan Pierre gets, the less likely they will win the wild card. Also, let's have a Moment of Silence for Scott Proctor's and Jonathon Broxton's arms...they will be hanging on by a thread by the end of this season. The Padres will continue their all pitching, no offense ways but they just don't have enough talent to compete with the top 2 teams in the division. I don't get all the love for the Rockies. Last year was certainly a great story, but they're still the Colorado Rockies. Look, I admire their retooling to offset the Coors effect, but they're really just the Phillies in a different stadium. The Giants will be awful. At least last year they had Bonds (still one of the top 5 players in baseball, when he plays at least). This year...well....they have Lincecum and Cain. And, um... (maybe I better change that...)
AL East:
I'm not as high on the Yankees as a lot of people. Chances are that at least one of their young pitchers will get injured/be ineffective, and the longer that Joba is in the bullpen the more it will hurt this team. Wang and Pettite should be good to great, but I don't expect them to have truly stellar seasons. They don't have very much pitching depth if more than one person goes down.
Likewise, I'm not wild about the Jays. Their rotation should regress, and I don't see much upside in their offense either other than Alex Rios. Tampa Bay is a good, young, up-and-coming team that should take advantage of down years by the Yankees and Toronto, and of course the terrible, terrible Orioles. It's going to be a long, long year in Baltimore.
AL Central:
Everyone seems to be all over Detroit, but I still think Cleveland is the better team. Detroit has a good offense but their rotation and especially their bullpen is much more voliatile. I still like them to grab the Wild Card in the AL though. The White Sox could have been a lot worse - they made some decent moves in the offseason but now was not the time to do it. They needed to rebuild in the face of the twin juggernaughts of Cleveland and Detroit this season. I could see the Twins or Royals moving up a few wins here, but really the teams right now are pictures of small market mediocrity (though they certianly still have more upside than, say, the Pirates).
AL West:
Even with the injuries to Lackey and Escobar, the Angels are clearly the best team in this division. Seatlle waaaay overplayed its talent last year, and while they did improve by adding Bedard, losing Adam Jones will hurt them. Oakland will be better than most rebuilding teams, but still has no shot. Texas still doesn't have pitching (who'd a thunk it?)
by berselius on
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gotta believe
this is the year for the cubs, as long as lou sorts out the lineup and dempster can deal - if there is too much lineup juggling, soriano especially could struggle
My view:
mets, cubs, dodgers, wc: braves
sox, tigers, angels, wc: indians
CUBS over angels - tigers O is money, but they are turning into the a-rod led yanks
1st BCB post ever! hope it takes
Soriano a lo profuuundo-NO-NO-NO-NO! (Spanish for "Soriano hits a home run!)
by CubbyBlues on Mar 30, 2008 12:54 PM CDT 0 recs
Old San Francisco button
Al - Didn't they call that button the Croix d'Candlestick?
by Mike Vails Evil Twin on Mar 30, 2008 12:57 PM CDT 0 recs
Yes, indeed they did.
I have an "Honorary" Croix de Candlestick that they handed out at the 1984 All-Star Game. It depicted Stu Miller being blown off the mound by a gust of wind (which happened in the 1961 ASG that was played at Candlestick).
"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx
by Al on
Mar 30, 2008 1:44 PM CDT
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What a great souvenir
I'd love to see that! Please post a picture of it sometime if you can. Thanks!
by Mike Vails Evil Twin on
Mar 30, 2008 3:30 PM CDT
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Seconded!
Alan Trammell: Assistant (to the) Manager
by northsider on
Mar 30, 2008 6:56 PM CDT
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Will try to find this later this week.
n/t
"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx
by Al on
Mar 31, 2008 4:09 AM CDT
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In Bruce's atricle
you can click on a link for the opening day lineup. They give a little blurb on each starter and have a few pictures.
by sue369 on Mar 30, 2008 1:05 PM CDT 0 recs
That NL West
is so hard to predict. I am with those who think that AZ, despite the run differential from last year, will come out on top. Anyway you look at it though, those teams are all going to beat up on each other and it really is a crap shoot as to who will come out on top.
by gwood on Mar 30, 2008 1:07 PM CDT 0 recs
Thought it was a pretty good assessment
except a couple things:
1) You said AZ's pitching in turmoil, why's that? Except for Randy Johnson, who can get injured at a moments notice, they are pretty solid both Starting and Pen
2) For Cleveland you said, "Sabathia and pray". Carmona is a pretty good pitcher plus, besides Borowski, they have a pretty good pen
3) For Texas you said, "Josh Hamilton. And Then?" Ian Kinsler is pretty good and so is Michael Young.
Just saying. Plus you need to fix up your Tampa assessment, for hitting it says, "Good Starters... Bullpen, not so much"
"Prince Fielder Dies Of Inside-The-Park Homerun" - The Onion
by DTJchris on Mar 30, 2008 1:37 PM CDT 0 recs
Who's the closer in Arizona?
Trading Valverde was a risky move.
"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx
by Al on
Mar 30, 2008 1:45 PM CDT
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Brandon Lyon.
At least for now.
"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07
by gary varsho on
Mar 30, 2008 1:45 PM CDT
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Yeah, Lyon's the closer
plus they have Qualls and Pena setting him up and Juan Cruz (yeah, I know, don't laugh but he did have a 12.8 K/9 Innings last year, think he may have found his niche) coming in for a fireman sort of roll.
Lyon has been getting lit up so far in Spring Training, so unless that carries over, they are pretty good in the pen.
Then their starting pitching of Webb, Haren, Johnson (if healthy), and Owings (who can hit the snot out of the ball)is pretty good.
"Prince Fielder Dies Of Inside-The-Park Homerun" - The Onion
by DTJchris on
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And Max Scherzer
who might be the closer in Arizona by the all-star break.
The D-Backs pen is decent. Some reliever will step up to fill the most overrated position in sports (the closer in the pen).
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by Josh77 on
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Thanks.
I must have inadvertently flipped the Tampa hitters and pitchers.
"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx
by Al on
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Ha!
I took it as a joke, like you were saying, in you best Steve Stone snark imitation, that "as hitters, the Rays are a pretty good pitchers," meaning they suck on offense. So much for my take....
"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07
by gary varsho on
Mar 30, 2008 1:46 PM CDT
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LOL
Your take is funnier than the real post. Actually, the Rays offense is decent (presuming Pena hits like he did last year).
"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx
by Al on
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Yeah, they could be good on "O"
but I really don't think Pena will sustain that HR pace. His previous career high in HR was 27, and he had a nearly 200 pt jump in SLG, from a previous career high of .477 to .627. Now, he also had a career high in walks, at 103, from a previous career high of 77, but also set a career high in SO with 146. If he can stick with his renewed patience, maybe he can approach last years numbers, but if you look at his career numbers, especially his numbers at AAA, last season begins to look more and more like an anomaly.
"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07
by gary varsho on
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I don't think he can sustain that kind of production
Pena had a career year and that's basically it, IMHO. Perhaps he figured something out but I doubt it. The Rays will be good offensively I think especially after Longoria gets called up, and Pena will contribute somewhat but not to last year's extent.
I could see them placing third above Toronto and above .500 for the first time, I think, ever.
"Prince Fielder Dies Of Inside-The-Park Homerun" - The Onion
by DTJchris on
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Mine...
NL East
1. Phillies
I think that they have the best offense in the league, and I think they'll have just enough pitching to hold off the Mets.
2. Mets (Wild Card)
People seem a little too high on the Mets right now. Yeah they have a good offense, and yeah they have Santana. But Alou probably won't even appear in 100 games, and certainly won't start in that many, and Delgado is not the same as he was 2 years ago. Offense good (I think just slightly ahead of the Cubs) and Pitching is above average (although the pen seems pretty 'meh').
3. Braves
Solid offense, solid SP, and solid pen. But they aren't strong enough in any area to take command of a division.
4. Nationals
Better than the Marlins.
5. Marlins
Hanley Ramirez and Uggla are good, but not THAT good. (as in enough to carry a team like the Marlins)
NL Central
1. Cubs
Solid offense, an above average rotation, and a top-notch pen. I don't think our SPs finish 2nd in ERA again, but I'm confident that it should be in the top 5. I think there will still be some lineup tinkering, but the team certainly got better and deeper.
2. Brewers
Great offense, may be only behind the Phillies IMO. SP could be OK, Gallardo could have a breakout year and Sheets could stay healthy. The bullpen should also be improved. They lost Cordero and replaced him with 3 new pitchers. (Yes I know that they lost Linebrink as well, but he was awful for them so he doesn't count for me). I think Gagne is done, but one of either Riske or Torres could have a good year and make that pen better than it was last year. A lot would have to go right for them to make the playoffs.
3. Reds
I think they could honestly be serious contenders if it weren't for Dusty. He doesn't deserve all of the flak that he gets, but he is an awful fit in Cincinnati. Patterson and Hatteberg should not be starting over Bruce and Votto, and Bailey should be in the rotation. If he let them mature in MLB, they could be contenders come July. Instead, they could easily be sellers at that time. Look for Harang and Aroyo to have big years though.
4. Astros
Offense is much improved, but that rotation is in shambles. I think the fact that they play 81 games at Minute Maid will help their record a lot, and playing plenty of games in Cincy and Wrigley plays into their strength as well. Still not a good team though.
5. Pirates
The rotation is the strength of this team. In the next two years it could become one of the better rotations in the league. A lot of those guys are just coming into their prime, and they could suddenly become contenders. Offensively though, they're short at least one impact bat, and they will have trouble attracting / keeping big talent.
6. Cardinals
Getting ready for '09. Pujols should just have the surgery alread. Rotation might be OK come August if Carpenter and Mulder are back and effective. But they will likely be so far gone at that point it won't even matter. Offense is pretty weak too once you get past Pujols and Glaus. Duncan is a good righty masher, and Ankiel will probably be OK. But it's a far different team than it was just 2-3 years ago.
NL West
1. Diamond Backs
Does anyone have a better starting rotation than Arizona? They have 2 aces and some solid guys to round it out. Not to mention that if Johnson can have 1 last healthy season, they could be lights-out. That pen is still really good even without Valverde. The offense doesn't scare anyone, but a bunch of youngsters maturing together should.
2. Padres
Pitching wins, and I think they have better pitching than the Dodgers do. The offense isn't good at all, but if they can make a midseason move to help it out, they could become contenders.
3. Dodgers
The pitching is very good (although I like the Padres' pitching better). That offense will keep them from competing come September though. A speedy / contact style game plays well at Chavez, but on the road it doesn't work so well when the other team can jack it over the fence and you can't.
4. Rockies
Great offense, bad pitching. They should be an exciting team to watch with a great young core (offensively at least) growing up together. Good luck on getting hot enough to go 21-1 again, because that's what they'd have to do to contend at all.
5. Giants
That Zito signing is looking really good right now, right?
AL East
1. Red Sox
Great offense, great rotation, best in the AL.
2. Yankees (Wild Card)
This one I'm not as sure about, simply because I don't know how the vets will respond to Girardi. People have been doubting the Yanks for a couple years now, and they still make the playoffs. That offense is just too strong for them to not make it. That rotation is OK, as is that pen. But if the vets can't perform with the new manager, things will get ugly.
3. Blue Jays
Solid team, but can't compete with Boston and New York
4. Devil Rays
I like rooting for teams like this, but unless there are several breakout years at once, they aint going anywhere.
5. Orioles
Growing year. '09 maybe if they work on that rotation.
AL Central
1. Tigers
Great offense, and a very good rotation. The pen is a little hurt right now, but they should be firing on all cylinders come mid-season, and they could really pull away then.
2. Indians
Great offense and a very good rotation. But that pen is just plain bad. By August, the extra workload shoved on the starting pitchers could start to hurt them big time, and that could be a reason that they do or don't win the wild card (it's either them or the Yankees).
3. White Sox
People seem to think that this is going to be a really bad White Sox team. While I don't see them making the playoffs, they will be far from terrible. That offense could be fantastic, they could potentially have 5 guys with 30+ HRs in that park. The rotation isn't awful, but it's certainly not good. They have a fine #1, and Vasquez is an acceptable #2, after that it gets pretty dicey. But considering that the pen blew something like 20 games for them last year, I think they are going to be a better team.
4. Twins
I don't know much about them except that some have them picked as a dark horse contender. They should still be a very good team as that's a very smart organization. They still have a great offensive core, and if I'm not mistaken, Liriano could be coming back this year right?
5. Royals
They're the Royals.
AL West
1. Angels
I know that they're banged up right now, but they have enough depth to tread water at or above .500 until the get things back in order. The have a good offense and good pitching, with really good depth. That means they are well covered for injuries, or have the ammo to make a trade that could make a big difference.
2. Mariners
It'll be close in the AL west. The Mariners should be a very solid team, but I think that they will fall just short of catching the Angels. They will likely be in contention for the Wild Card, but I don't see them winning it.
3. Athletics
Better than the Rangers.
4. Rangers
Better than the Royals.
I don't like predicting playoff outcomes, because sooo much happens in between now and then.
by WittyUserName on Mar 30, 2008 1:55 PM CDT 0 recs
Why not?
NL West: DBags
NL Central: Cubs
NL East: Mets
NL WC: Phillies
AL West: Seattle
AL Central: Detroit
AL East: Boston
AL WC: New York
Cubs over Phillies, DBags over Mets
Cubs over DBags (revenge...)
Boston over Seattle, Detroit over New York
Boston over Detroit
Cubs over Detroit. Book it.
In Bo I trust.
by Schwa on Mar 30, 2008 2:07 PM CDT 0 recs
How...?
...could the Cubs beat Detroit in the WS if you have Boston winning the AL Pennant??
"Hey-Hey! Home Run! Attaboy Ronnie!" ~ Jack Brickhouse
by ronsanto10 on
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Doh!
Jacque Jones is gone, and I doubt Ivan DeJesus would mind this!
by initram on
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improved pitching
Pitching: Um, well, we hope it's improvedI have no idea what this means, considering that the the Cubs were 2nd in the NL in pitching last year.
Sure, an improvement is always nice, but the pitching sure wasn't the problem last year.
by big_lowitzki on Mar 30, 2008 2:11 PM CDT 0 recs
I predict
That the first 162 games of the season will have a lot to do with determining the division winners and wildcards.
Good stuff again, Al! Come on Z, don't get too excited tomorrow and take the sink out of your pitches!
by kentmeister on Mar 30, 2008 2:25 PM CDT 0 recs
Not for nothing,
but I count five ex-cubs on the Padres:
Prior, Rusch, Barrett, Maddux and Gerut. The Padres are that much more likely to fail with five former Cubbies!
Love the site!
by 14theofleury on Mar 30, 2008 3:10 PM CDT 0 recs
Unbalanced?
Yes, Al's view of the White Sox is not fair & not balanced, again.
4) CHICAGO WHITE SOX
I think a fair prediction would be 3rd.
Hitting: Unbalanced
How so? Where and why do you say so?
With the additions of Orlando Cabrera and Nick Swisher actually the Sox have two run producers. They both should get on base for the strong middle lineup.
Pitching: Pitching? Who needs pitching?
Question, would you swap Carlos Zambrano & Ted Lilly for Mark Buehrle and Javier Vazquez? Well, I wouldn't swap them. IF it's a crap shoot for the Sox 3-5, well how sure are Ryan Dempster, Rich Hill and Jason Marquis? For two years straight Marquis' been left off the play-off roster of his teams. Take a look at Dempster's recent numbers as a starter and you'll see why he was stuck in the bullpen.
Defense: Defense? Who needs defense?
Let's take this comparatively position by position defensively:
Catcher: AJ (not much to judge the Cubs rookie by)
3rd: Crede
SS: Orlando
2nd: Uribe
1st: Lee
LF: Swisher
CF: Pie
RF: Dye (I don't think many have seen enough of Fuku to seriously claim that he's better than Dye.)
Some will no doubt argue on this, but the Sox defense has improved and I'd say it's better than the Cubs. Clearly though it's not as bad as Al's sneering comment states.
Intangibles: Watch Ozzie's head explode! First manager fired! Fun!
This has been the mantra of Cubbie fans ever since Ozzie was hired. Of course when Ozzie was hired Cubbie fans were boastful about the great Dusty and how he was going to lead the Cubbies to the post-season year after year.
It's funny that there was moaning and groaning here about a local columnist who didn't share the optimism of Cubbie fans. Then this overly negative sneering comment about the Sox.
It's no big surprise that Al's perspective of the Sox is skewed so negatively. It's par for the course
(The Sox will) be hard-pressed to win 70 games next year. - Al
Yellon, Dec. 14, 2004
2005 White Sox
* 99 wins
* First place from game 1 to 162
* 11-1 in the post-season
* WORLD SERIES CHAMPIONS!
Hey, be happy Cubbie fans, Phil Rogers predicted the Cubbies would win 98 games this season.
"The championship pennants, oh long may they wave - O'er the grounds of the Sox and the Cubs gloomy grave." - 1906 Chicago Daily News
by DrCrawdad on Mar 30, 2008 3:17 PM CDT 0 recs
Please, as I know from personal experience,
"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07
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