I can't believe we let Baker go.
I mean, with a manager that makes his lineups like this:
"Baker said he sometimes sits in his office staring into space, pondering and pontificating over things of this nature, 'And sometime I just sit here and nothing comes.' But he knows it'll all come to him as he observes exhibition games."How does this man fool so many teams into hiring him? Is this the type of things he says in his interviews?
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He doesn't want to clog his mind up.
by Mordecai on Mar 6, 2008 11:24 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
Somehow
Then we learned the horrific truth. Fact is, inside Dusty's skull, nobody was home, just a few moths flying around in circles.
JP
by jpalaska on Mar 6, 2008 11:24 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
Boy, that sums it all up perfectly!
by CubFanSince1970 on Mar 6, 2008 11:51 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
"Clog the bases you must not"
by Thelonious on Mar 6, 2008 3:27 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
April 15!
by Al on Mar 6, 2008 11:45 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
Don't be surprised if...
by CubFanSince1970 on Mar 6, 2008 11:50 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
re: April 15!
by dat cubfan daver on Mar 6, 2008 12:46 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Dusty
by MDBNIU on Mar 6, 2008 12:01 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
I've got a confession
And then they hired Dusty. And articles like this do nothing to make me fearful again.
by JDay on Mar 6, 2008 12:24 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
I feel sorry
Bye bye Aaron. We'll all miss you
by Dr Eamus Catuli on Mar 6, 2008 12:27 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
i think
by DartmouthCubsFan on Mar 6, 2008 12:34 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
But the "Dusty is a Jackass" threads...
by DudeVf11 on Mar 6, 2008 2:59 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I Don't Hate Dusty
But I was very disappointed in his managing skills, while he was with the Cubs.
And I gotta say I wasn't very impressed with his announcing skills last year either.
by jpalaska on Mar 6, 2008 3:07 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Dusty
Reds manager Dusty Baker has already decided he doesn't like Joey Votto's approach at the plate.
The approach that led to a .321/.360/.548 line and 17 RBI in 84 at-bats following his callup last season. "He needs to swing some more," Baker said. "I talked to him about that. Strikeouts aren't the only criteria. I'd like to see him more aggressive." Baker doesn't want Votto, Adam Dunn or anyone else taking called third strikes. "I really, really hate the called third strike," Baker said. "I hate that. You're guess and you ain't ready to hit." That Scott Hatteberg rarely strikes out makes Votto a particularly risky pick this year.
Sounds like Dusty is trying his best to make sure Dunn and Votto aren't base cloggers. I dunno how anyone could ever compare Dusty to Lou. Sure there both old school managers, but Lou's a smart old school managers who's willing to make changes and try modern day stuff, and Dusty is just a idiot.
Quick question though, who managers these days aren't really old school managers, and how many of them have won the WS compared to old school managers in recent years. To me it seems like the old school managing way seems bad but it still gets results alot.
by cubsfan25 on Mar 6, 2008 12:47 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
its because
TALENT on the field is what matters 99% of the time
Jim Leyland went from good manager in Pittsburgh and Florida to bad manager in Colorado to great manager in Detroit
same can be said for Joe Torre, who was miserable in St Louis and then a HOF manager in NY
by DartmouthCubsFan on Mar 6, 2008 12:58 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I agree
Over 162, a manager that knows his talent and has great instincts, probably equates to 4-5 more wins vs a manager who doesn't. Where a good manager can have a great impact, is when they have a good working relationship with the GM, and they make the right recomendations in regards to player acquisitions or letting players go. That is what Piniella brought to the table last year, because the roster he was given to start 07, had a whole bunch of missing parts.
by MPH73 on Mar 6, 2008 1:16 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I'll bet Dusty's mind was clear...
The NL Central's other pitching coaches---Duncan, Maddux, Rothschild---have got to salivating over how many SOs they can rack up against the Reds.
I'll bet those three already have a bet working. - TL
by timlacy on Mar 6, 2008 1:22 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
I predict...
by Al on Mar 6, 2008 1:27 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
The 2008 version of Rob Deer.
by N Oakley on Mar 6, 2008 2:40 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Isn't it crazy to think that a hitter...
by timlacy on Mar 6, 2008 3:34 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I doubt it, Al
I realize you don't think much of Dusty, but don't be ridiculous.
by Thelonious on Mar 6, 2008 3:41 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Well, you may be right.
His walk numbers went down. But his K numbers didn't go up.
Apart from the BB rate going down, his 2003 and 2004 seasons are nearly identical.
by Al on Mar 6, 2008 3:45 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
interestingly enough
even with Dusty managing....
by DartmouthCubsFan on Mar 6, 2008 4:12 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Seems to me
I've said here and there that I don't think Dunn + Dusty is going to end well. Dunn seems hard headed enough to me that if Dusty starts messing with his "aggressiveness", or lack thereoff Dunn might not take it too well. I'm predicting that Dunn won't be a Red in 2009.
by pageian on Mar 6, 2008 4:12 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I suppose that could be true
I don't take that as an endorsement for Baker, because in my opinion, his weaknesses far outweigh any marginal performance benefit he might glean. His management of rookies and all pitchers is generally atrocious, and his in-game management is horrifyingly stupid and so archaic that Billy Martin would consider it démodé.
The most likely outcome from Dunn's decrease in walks would be a decrease in strikeouts. I'd have to look at some numbers to consider these other scenarios, but I think, logically, a player who strikes out on a lot of called strike threes would strike out less if he was more aggressive.
by Thelonious on Mar 6, 2008 4:52 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I agree...
Bottom line, once a hitter is established, no manager is going to have a big impact on the type of hitter they are. The mental approach you take towards recognizing a pitch, is so ingrained in veterans, it just doesn't change much.
I would predict that the Reds players with an established track record, will have comparable numbers to what they have done in the past.
by MPH73 on Mar 6, 2008 5:09 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
To extend that further
by JohnM on Mar 7, 2008 10:29 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
How old is Darin?
by Rick on Mar 6, 2008 9:49 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
With abilities like this

by morgane on Mar 6, 2008 10:21 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
You mean Glendon Rusch?
by JohnM on Mar 7, 2008 10:31 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
No, it's the opposite day joke
by morgane on Mar 7, 2008 8:31 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

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