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Open Thread: Cubs vs. Phillies, Saturday 4/12, 6:05 CT

Chicago Cubs @ Philadelphia Phillies


Knowing this will probably start a firestorm of discussion, MLB and the MLBPA reached an agreement on more stringent drug testing yesterday; as a result, no one named in the Mitchell Report will be subject to any penalties (i.e., suspensions). Further:

Friday's agreement also ensures there will never be another Mitchell report, as both sides agreed to keep players' names private until discipline is imposed in any future probe. The sides also agreed a player would be given any allegations and evidence against him before any investigatory interview.

Will this do any good? Only time will tell.

Also today, Maury Brown wrote at Baseball Prospectus on the TV blackout rules, which I just wrote about last Monday. The BP article is behind their pay wall, but I thought this part of it was important:

Extra Innings had approximately 750,000 subscribers last season, according to the Sports Business Journal. That will be a small fraction of the subscriber base for the MLB Network which will see a staggering 47 million viewers--the largest cable channel launch in history. So, when Selig said a couple of years ago, "I hear more about people who can't get the game, and, yes, I've already told our people we have to do something about it," addressing the blackout policy is a case of self-preservation. Congress hasn't stuck their nose into the blackout policy (yet), but if the noise coming from fans is loud now, it will be earsplitting with the MLB Network coming online.

Here's the deal, though. The national exclusivities will still be in place, and even if the "local" territorial issue is tweaked, it's not going to be enough based on MLB's need for local broadcast deals and the number of games in play. In other words, MLB can't get to the NFL's level, and therefore, the best MLB can do is try and lessen the blow. There will still be arcane blackouts that cause you to scratch your head. There will still be fumbling around to try and figure on who is, or isn't blacked out that day. There will still be that massive national blackout, and when we all get MLB Network (well, everyone that has cable and satellite television), we're going to be seeing some form of blackout policy there as well. Only in baseball would there be a collective head nod to the idea that it's good business practice to restrict consumers' access to your product.

I added the emphasis in the last paragraph. Get your heads out of your collective butts, MLB owners. If someone wants to pay to watch your product, why won't you let them???

Today's Starting Pitchers
Ted Lilly
T. Lilly
Cubs
vs. Cole Hamels
C. Hamels
Phillies
0-1 W-L 1-1
9.72 ERA 1.20
5 SO 10
2 BB 5
1 HR 1
vs. Phi -- vs. Cubs

Small sample size on those numbers; Lilly isn't that bad, and Hamels isn't that good. Well, maybe Hamels is -- he's been the Phillies' top young pitcher for a while, and they need him to step up and become an ace. He hasn't faced that many current Cubs, but Alfonso Soriano has homered three times (in 20 AB) off him; Ryan Theriot (5-for-10, a double, a HR) and Aramis Ramirez (4-for-8, a HR) have also hit Hamels well. Expect to see Reed Johnson starting tonight vs. the lefty Hamels.

Today's game is on WGN; for more info see the MLB.com Mediacenter.

MLB.com Gameday (2007 version)

MLB.com Gameday (2008 version)

Baseball-reference.com game preview

As usual, an overflow comment thread will post at 7:30 pm CT.

Discuss amongst yourselves.

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wow - am I the first?

Gee, I've never been first at anything...

well, except for winning that [begin GEEK ALERT!] Rubik's Cube contest back in college [end GEEK ALERT!]

I didn't even realize the Cubs were playing today - I thought whenever the Yankees played the Red Sox, the rest of the teams took the day off.

btw - Manny just went Monster. yeah, he stood and admired it for a few... Just Manny being Manny. Maybe we should just start saying "yeah, just Rammy being Rammy" and accept it?

Lou Brown: "My kinda team, Charlie, my kinda team..."

by ballhawk on Apr 12, 2008 3:56 PM CDT   0 recs

as long as it goes over the fence.... ;)

..and he doesnt risk injuring a hamstring becuase he has to sprint full tilt to make up for the admiration time when it doesnt go out of the yard...

Okay, I will let this go now and focus on tonight..

Felix Pie must play everyday!

by JB 23 on Apr 12, 2008 4:01 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

It's easy to accept

when the ball actually goes out!

"Confidence is what you have before you understand the problem." Woody Allen

by BlueSox on Apr 12, 2008 4:01 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Loud, sustained applause

I didn't even realize the Cubs were playing today - I thought whenever the Yankees played the Red Sox, the rest of the teams took the day off.

That my friend is the quote of the day. Probably of the month, too.

There is no place like Nebraska - Go Huskers!

by sanantonecub on Apr 12, 2008 5:36 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Well,

the owners bitch about the salaries but make sure that they bid the highest for the services of that one free agent superstar, not even realizing that they (the owners) are the ones cutting their (the owners) throats. So the restricting of access to their product does not surprise me at all. They remind me of the cartoon of a man holding a gun to his temple and warning "one move and I'll shoot!" Idiots one and all. It won't be long until they have 0 consumers of their product.

by crazymountain on Apr 12, 2008 4:10 PM CDT   0 recs

OT: Red Sox T-shirt buried in new Yankee Stadium by construction worker

http://canadianpress.google.com/article/ALeqM5h_x7aHsAnGwHSGqdh7tJF3H0MPZA

not sure if its true or not but makes for a good story. good for the yankees, let someone else hear about curses for a change.

"Relax, all right? Don't try to strike everybody out. Strikeouts are boring! Besides that, they're fascist. Throw some ground balls - it's more democratic" Crash Davis - Bull Durham

by hoppy91 on Apr 12, 2008 4:10 PM CDT   0 recs

That's funny

I heard that on the news here (in Ireland) yesterday, and we never get baseball news unless there's a brawl involving a 75 year old coach, or someone breaks the all time career HR record. My son laughed and said "it's been done before". When the new stadium for Arsenal FC was being built in London, some of the construction workers buried gear from arch-rivals Tottenham Hotspur, BCB's own gary varsho's favorite soccer team.

"Is there anything he can't do?" ~Len Kasper, 4/5/08, on Kosuke Fukudome

by JohnM on Apr 12, 2008 4:21 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

I can't wait until the first bosox series

in the new park. just imagine if the sox sweep the yankees.

"Relax, all right? Don't try to strike everybody out. Strikeouts are boring! Besides that, they're fascist. Throw some ground balls - it's more democratic" Crash Davis - Bull Durham

by hoppy91 on Apr 12, 2008 4:31 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Ha!

I hadn't heard that! COYS! Up the Lilywhites! Down the scummers!

"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07

by gary varsho on Apr 13, 2008 7:39 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

before the season they were going to award him both the NL and AL Cy Young awards...

...too bad he couldnt beat the Brewers though

Felix Pie must play everyday!

by JB 23 on Apr 12, 2008 4:36 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Nobody's perfect

Not even the best of the best are perfect. And that's more true in baseball than anywhere else.

"Is there anything he can't do?" ~Len Kasper, 4/5/08, on Kosuke Fukudome

by JohnM on Apr 12, 2008 4:38 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Poor ESPN

a New York team losing to a team from "the worst division in baseball". They will all be in shock on air, holding back their tears as they go through the scores.....

by crazymountain on Apr 12, 2008 4:40 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Seriously, what good is Santana...

...if he can't even beat the Brewers for us?

Nanika Ga Okoru!

by dat cubfan daver on Apr 12, 2008 5:07 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Nonsense!

ESPN told me that Santana would never lose!

"The one that invent the light tried 2,000 times and finally he did it, we have light...I don't want to spend 2,000 times to win Opening Day" Carlos Zambrano

by CubsBullsBears on Apr 12, 2008 5:09 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Is moving Hill to the pen

gonna make him rediscover the strike zone?

by crazymountain on Apr 12, 2008 4:48 PM CDT   0 recs

i doubt it,

but i sure would like to see what lieber can do as a starter since he's looked pretty good up to this point.

by gocubsgoradio720 on Apr 12, 2008 4:50 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Cubs lineup

A. Soriano lf
R. Johnson cf
D. Lee 1b
A. Ramirez 3b
G. Soto c
M. DeRosa rf
R. Cedeno 2b
R. Theriot ss
T. Lilly p

"Is there anything he can't do?" ~Len Kasper, 4/5/08, on Kosuke Fukudome

by JohnM on Apr 12, 2008 4:50 PM CDT   0 recs

No Fukudome tonight

Interesting.

"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al on Apr 12, 2008 5:04 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Lou mentioned it in the pre-game

yesterday. Day off is all.

"Is there anything he can't do?" ~Len Kasper, 4/5/08, on Kosuke Fukudome

by JohnM on Apr 12, 2008 5:09 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

DeRo didn't play a single inning of OF in ST

I'm not sure it's fair to throw him out there now.

I think Lou is going overboard with this "resting guys" bit. They had a day off last Tuesday and they have one next Monday. How tired can Dome be??? He'd have to be dead tired (emphasis on the dead) to be worse than Cedeno.

"I've never complained about it. I'm thankful to have a jersey." Mark DeRosa, 22 Aug 2007

by DeRoMyHero on Apr 12, 2008 5:59 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

I dont disagree....he seems to over doing the resting thing..

...and the all RH lineup vs. LHP right now.

Dome is your best hitter right now and certainly is your best OF, why take those risks?

Felix Pie must play everyday!

by JB 23 on Apr 12, 2008 6:07 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Phillies

S. Victorino cf
J. Werth rf
C. Utley 2b
R. Howard 1b
P. Burrell lf
P. Feliz 3b
C. Ruiz c
E. Bruntlett ss
C. Hamels p

"Is there anything he can't do?" ~Len Kasper, 4/5/08, on Kosuke Fukudome

by JohnM on Apr 12, 2008 4:51 PM CDT   0 recs

As many of us are obsessed...

...with Burrell's freakish numbers against the Cubs, let it be known that he's 1 for 5 against Lilly in six PAs -- that one hit being a single. Ryan Howard is 1 for 3, also with a single. Pedro Feliz has faced Lilly eight times; he has three hits, one of those a home run, and five RBI. I'm hoping Lilly finally has that strong start that we're all waiting for.

(I'm really diggin' that baseball-reference.com game preview. Thanks for posting, Al!)

Nanika Ga Okoru!

by dat cubfan daver on Apr 12, 2008 5:17 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Kosuke's 1st day off?

Hope he's not hurting at all from that outfield bump.

by californiachicagoan on Apr 12, 2008 4:52 PM CDT   0 recs

From what I heard

They were planning to give him a day off today anyway

by berselius on Apr 12, 2008 4:52 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

I guess it makes sense...

... that gives them an all-RH lineup (except for Lilly) against Hamels.

"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al on Apr 12, 2008 5:05 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Ugh,

I like Cedeno, but Fontenot should get the nod today, he had a nice game thursday...

"I can accept failure, but I can't accept not trying" - Michael Jordan, the one and only...

by LPLancer23 on Apr 12, 2008 5:19 PM CDT   0 recs

Lefties

I guess Lou is saving the lefties for Gordon and Lidge.

by californiachicagoan on Apr 12, 2008 5:24 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Right-handed pinch hitter

Any chance if the need calls for it, Lou uses Marquis or Z to pinch hit?

by Donbedouin on Apr 12, 2008 5:38 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Anyone watching the Cardinals game?

According to Yahoo, Ankiel 'homered to catcher'. Is that an inside the park home run?

by berselius on Apr 12, 2008 5:33 PM CDT   0 recs

That's the first time I've seen that scoring.

n/t

This field, this game: it's a part of our past, Ray. It reminds of us of all that once was good and it could be again.

by HectorVillanueva on Apr 12, 2008 5:48 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

ESPN

says homer to center

by tigerhawk61 on Apr 12, 2008 5:51 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Izzy blows a save

Woo...nice to see the Cards blowing leads to a AA team

by berselius on Apr 12, 2008 6:02 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

WGN radio interview w/R. Johnson

"Where are you from, Reed?"

Nice to see Ronnie is still doing his homework.

by Shanghai Badger on Apr 12, 2008 5:54 PM CDT   0 recs

Chicago Cubs Baseball is on the air!

And we are at Citizens Bank Park here in Philadelphia.....

There is no place like Nebraska - Go Huskers!

by sanantonecub on Apr 12, 2008 6:00 PM CDT   0 recs

Still no Gameday Audio

Did Lou have anything interesting to say about the lineup?

"I've never complained about it. I'm thankful to have a jersey." Mark DeRosa, 22 Aug 2007

by DeRoMyHero on Apr 12, 2008 6:01 PM CDT   0 recs

Isringhausen --> blown save

and Albert P. lets a ball go past him for the tying run.

by zevkalman on Apr 12, 2008 6:02 PM CDT   0 recs

If Cedeno is the "utility guy"

why not play him in RF? Why mess with the DP combo?

"I've never complained about it. I'm thankful to have a jersey." Mark DeRosa, 22 Aug 2007

by DeRoMyHero on Apr 12, 2008 6:06 PM CDT   0 recs

Tinkers to Evers to Cedeno!

There is no place like Nebraska - Go Huskers!

by sanantonecub on Apr 12, 2008 6:09 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Interesting

Who the squat leader in MLB was last year:

by grifdog on Apr 12, 2008 6:09 PM CDT   0 recs

Randy Marsh?

"Clogging up the bases isn't that great to me." -Dusty Baker on OBP

by vtcub on Apr 12, 2008 6:10 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

I just love the fact that they have the same name

"Clogging up the bases isn't that great to me." -Dusty Baker on OBP

by vtcub on Apr 12, 2008 6:11 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

"I just can't do it. I'm sorry I let you down."

"Clogging up the bases isn't that great to me." -Dusty Baker on OBP

by vtcub on Apr 12, 2008 6:15 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

"What do you wanna do? What do yew wanna dew?"

"I think Hendry still has a few years to serve on his 'grand larceny' sentence before he can shop in Pittsburgh again" - ballhawk

by NittanyCub on Apr 12, 2008 6:22 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

"I thought this was America!"

"Clogging up the bases isn't that great to me." -Dusty Baker on OBP

by vtcub on Apr 12, 2008 6:27 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

NO CHANCE!!!

;)

"Confidence is what you have before you understand the problem." Woody Allen

by BlueSox on Apr 12, 2008 6:10 PM CDT   0 recs

That was supposed to be a reply to sanantonecub

"Confidence is what you have before you understand the problem." Woody Allen

by BlueSox on Apr 12, 2008 6:10 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Play good

defense Cubs!!

by sue369 on Apr 12, 2008 6:15 PM CDT   0 recs

CEDENO!!!

aaaaaaaaaaargh!!!

There is no place like Nebraska - Go Huskers!

by sanantonecub on Apr 12, 2008 6:16 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

CEDENO!!!!

"Confidence is what you have before you understand the problem." Woody Allen

by BlueSox on Apr 12, 2008 6:16 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Good God

I won't be able to take much of that kind of crap tonight.

by sue369 on Apr 12, 2008 6:17 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Yeah, I need a beer for this one.

"Confidence is what you have before you understand the problem." Woody Allen

by BlueSox on Apr 12, 2008 6:18 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Mmmmm, beer.

I may have a Chill here in a minute.

by sue369 on Apr 12, 2008 6:19 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Have an extra?

I'll take it off your hands :)

There is no place like Nebraska - Go Huskers!

by sanantonecub on Apr 12, 2008 6:23 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Do I have extras..

heck yeah. Here ya go.

by sue369 on Apr 12, 2008 6:24 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Thanks!

There is no place like Nebraska - Go Huskers!

by sanantonecub on Apr 12, 2008 6:25 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

CEDENO!!!!

Expert at defense.

by grifdog on Apr 12, 2008 6:16 PM CDT   0 recs

CEDENO!

"The one that invent the light tried 2,000 times and finally he did it, we have light...I don't want to spend 2,000 times to win Opening Day" Carlos Zambrano

by CubsBullsBears on Apr 12, 2008 6:16 PM CDT   0 recs

Our starting catcher...

...has fewer days off so far than our starting shortstop, center fielder or right fielder.

by cwyers on Apr 12, 2008 6:16 PM CDT   0 recs

Cedeno - Bad D

DeRosa - GREAT D!

There is no place like Nebraska - Go Huskers!

by sanantonecub on Apr 12, 2008 6:17 PM CDT   0 recs

wow....

DeRosa shows him how to catch the ball!!!!!

by KC in OK on Apr 12, 2008 6:17 PM CDT   0 recs

NICE!

DeRosa shows Ronny how to play some D

"The one that invent the light tried 2,000 times and finally he did it, we have light...I don't want to spend 2,000 times to win Opening Day" Carlos Zambrano

by CubsBullsBears on Apr 12, 2008 6:17 PM CDT   0 recs

If DeRo had been at 2B

Dome wouldn't have had to bail him out.

Lou, are you watching?

"I've never complained about it. I'm thankful to have a jersey." Mark DeRosa, 22 Aug 2007

by DeRoMyHero on Apr 12, 2008 6:19 PM CDT   0 recs

Lilly is such a fly ball pitcher

this is a tough park. It's worse when popups don't get caught and when your best OF is on the bench.

Still, he looks good so far.

"I've never complained about it. I'm thankful to have a jersey." Mark DeRosa, 22 Aug 2007

by DeRoMyHero on Apr 12, 2008 6:24 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs