Bronson Arroyo Disease, and Open Thread: Cubs vs. Phillies, Sunday 4/13, 12:35 CT
by Al on Apr 13, 2008 8:00 AM CDT
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Chicago Cubs at Philadelphia Phillies, Apr 13, 2008 12:35 PM CDT
Last night, I braved the wilds of Chicago-area expressways and tollways to hie myself out to Naperville to have dinner with some friends.
After dropping off the sherpa (how on Earth do people live out there and drive to work downtown every day? It would drive me nuts), we had a nice evening out, my kids babysitting their three-year-old twins. And thus I missed most of the Cubs' 7-1 loss to the Phillies, only the second time all year they've been totally blown out of a game. Ominously, the other one, the second game of the season on April 2, was also started by Ted Lilly.
And that does concern me. A year ago, many of us were making the comparison between Lilly and Bronson Arroyo, who came to the NL Central in 2006 from the tougher AL East, and had a pretty good year. Lilly's 2007 season wasn't very different from Arroyo's 2006 (Arroyo 2006: 14-11, 3.29, ERA more than a run lower than 2005; Lilly 2007: 15-8, 3.83, ERA more than half a run lower than 2006). However, Arroyo regressed in 2007, going 9-15 with an ERA of 4.23, more in line with his career norms. Lilly has looked pretty bad in his first three starts, going 0-2 with a 9.95 ERA, and 19 hits and 3 HR allowed in 12.2 innings.
We might call this "Bronson Arroyo Disease", and if this is what's going to happen to Ted Lilly, the Cubs are going to have pitching trouble... unless Ryan Dempster continues his good early showing. Because if Dempster doesn't do that, that leaves the Cubs with, essentially, one solid starting pitcher (Carlos Zambrano). It is too early to panic. But it is not too early to be concerned.
I'm not even that worried about the offense, which has been pretty pathetic in this series. It'll get untracked; these hitters are too good not to. It's the pitching that worries me. Bad as the last two days have been, win today and it's still a successful road trip at 4-2.
Notes: Thanks to Jason, a sharp-eyed BCB reader in South Bend, for sending me this photo of what is presumably a Cubs billboard there:
If you're new to BCB this year, this will be the type of post you'll see when there's a day game after a night game, both home and road -- a recap combined with the (first) game thread. There will still be an overflow post, which (at least for the time being) will post an hour and a half after the scheduled game time. Now, onward (and Jason Marquis, please try to remember how you pitched in the first two months of 2007, and replicate that. Thank you).
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I'm sure you've had enough of the "Jamie-Moyer-is-older-than-dirt" comments (he is the oldest player in the majors at 45 and was drafted by the Cubs two months before his current teammate Kyle Kendrick was born), but he has been around long enough that Alfonso Soriano, despite having four HR off Moyer, is only hitting .205/.217/.500 against him (44 career AB). Reed Johnson, who will likely get the start again today vs. the lefty Moyer, is .333/.357/.556 facing him (9-for-27, 3 doubles, a HR). I'd also expect Henry Blanco to get a start today (3-for-9 vs. Moyer, and it's a day game after a night game, and Geovany Soto has started all but one game so far).
Both Geoff Jenkins (.313/.405/.531) and Pat Burrell (.357/.486/.536) pound the heck out of Jason Marquis. Advice: pitch around them. (Yeah, I know, master-of-the-obvious.) Jimmy Rollins is still out, and Shane Victorino was placed on the DL after straining a calf muscle last night, so the Phillies are a bit shorthanded today.
Today's game is available, in case you didn't know, nationally on TBS (TBS coverage will be blacked out in Chicago, where you'll see it on CSN). This is the first year TBS, under the terms of the new TV contract that had them doing the Division Series last year, will carry a non-exclusive Sunday afternoon game. Let's hope they do a better job than they did in the 2007 playoffs. For more see the MLB.com Mediacenter.
MLB.com Gameday (2007 version)
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I think we'll see Lieber
in the rotation before Mid-May. I'd personally like to see him in there now.
"The Cubs can't be stopped" -- Me
by lilkimmer77 on Apr 13, 2008 8:09 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
First!!! (side-note)
"The Cubs can't be stopped" -- Me
by lilkimmer77 on Apr 13, 2008 8:09 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think
Lieber is much more valuable in the role he's filling right now. A guy in the pen who can come in and slam the door when a starter gets hurt/shelled early in a start is indispensable. Leave Lieber where he's at. I say if we're filling rotation spot, bring up Gallagher and slot him in the rotation.
"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07
by gary varsho on Apr 13, 2008 9:06 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Agreed!
If Lieber were in the rotation, who else would have saved us in those two Pirates games? Lieber threw 3 innings Monday night and 4 and a third innings on Wednesday. If he were starting, we would only get him every fifth day.
"You don't frighten us, English pig dogs. Go and boil your bottoms, you sons of a silly person. I blow my nose at you, so-called "Arthur King," you and all your silly English K-nig-hts." - French Knight
by gwood on Apr 13, 2008 9:13 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
But
if Lieber was in the rotation, we might have needed to be saved in the Pirates series. I'm a big Lieber fan and wanted him on the team and in the rotation before most this offseason. But right now there still isn't room for him in the rotation. Dempster is pitching great, Marquis as only had one start so it's too early to pull him, and it's way too early to pull Hill and Lilly.
by cubsfan25 on Apr 13, 2008 10:28 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Re:
it's way too early to pull Hill and Lilly.
I agree, but...Hill's already been pulled!
"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07
by gary varsho on Apr 13, 2008 10:30 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Not really
if he doesn't pitch today he will probably start Thursday, if he pitches today and doesn't totally suck he will pitch Friday. He pretty much is just getting his start pushed back 2 or 3 days to work on some stuff.
by cubsfan25 on Apr 13, 2008 10:32 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah but
wouldn't you rather have that guy start 30 games for you as opposed to assuming your gonna need him because someone else is gonna get shelled?
"The Cubs can't be stopped" -- Me
by lilkimmer77 on Apr 13, 2008 10:11 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
False dichotomy.
Lieber stays in the pen and Gallagher starts.
And someone is going to get shelled/hurt. And you are going to need him. It's not an if, it's when...and it's happened twice this week, anyway.
If the Cubs need a starter, bring up Gallagher, or let Marshall start a game or two. Lieber is comfortable in the role he's in now and is performing well. Leave him alone. Gallagher and Marshall can fill rotation holes, that's why they were stretched out.
"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07
by gary varsho on Apr 13, 2008 10:17 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Lieber
still wants to start I don't think he's comfortable in that role, he's just doing what he's told. Lieber is probably our second or third best starting pitcher right now, and he's not even in the rotation. I like Gallagher but from what I saw from last year and this spring I don't think he's ready yet. So if anyone is gonna go into the rotation it's gonna be Lieber at some point and then Marshall probably will get a chance over Gallagher to.
by cubsfan25 on Apr 13, 2008 10:31 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
If Lieber doesn't like it,
he's got a helluva way of demonstrating his displeasure, by not allowing an earned run thus far. Leave him pissed off, then! He's pitching well in this role. Leave him there. Give Gallagher or Marshall a start.
"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07
by gary varsho on Apr 13, 2008 10:34 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
But
isn't better to have him starting games, and pitching well the whole day. Instead of having to bring him in when a SP has gotten bombed or rare 15 inning games and hope he holds them? If Lieber was starting and pitching well the whole day we wouldn't be losing in the first place is what I mean.
by cubsfan25 on Apr 13, 2008 10:36 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
That's a HUGE assumption.
Just because Lieber pitches well in one role doesn't mean he pitches well in another, plus he can't pitch every day, so, even given the truth of your assertion, you get one more quality start a week, and lose the possibility of coming back because you don't have the door slammer who can pick up middle-inning relief, and you exhaust your bullpen. If you have other options--Gallagher, Marshall, and Hart--there's no need to pull Lieber out of a role in which he's performing well and put him into one where is performance is wholly unpredictable.
"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07
by gary varsho on Apr 13, 2008 10:42 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Lieber
has pitched well in a starters role most of his career. He has to pitch in this horrible Phillys hitting park over the last few years that made numbers look much worse then he was. There's no reason to believe he can't step in the rotation and be a quality 3-4 starter right now. He started this whole spring and pitched great as well. Having Lieber in the pen like this over the last week has been a godsend to save the pen. But most of the time we aren't going to have starters go only 3 innings and were rarely going to have 15 inning games. So Lieber isn't going to pitch and really help the team this much over the course of the season. He's much more valuable starting and probably giving us a 4.20-4.40 type era out of the rotation IMO. I don't see Gallagher or Hart doing that right now. Marshall might but he has also dropped off the last two years around the 20 start mark so who knows.
by cubsfan25 on Apr 13, 2008 10:52 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
If Gallagher and Hart
can't pitch to a mid-4 ERA, they shouldn't be around. Moving Lieber at this point would be a mistake. The bullpen is already leading the NL in innings pitched, which is not good. Imagine if Lieber hadn't been there to absorb 7 of those innings. It would've taken 2-3 pitchers to do that job. Lieber handled it himself. It's too valuable an asset to have in the pen, especially when you have other options.
"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07
by gary varsho on Apr 13, 2008 10:56 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Agreed....
Having Marshall and Lieber in the pen is a great thing, as they can either throw an inning or four....great options from the pen.....
by crazymountain on Apr 13, 2008 10:58 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Gallagher
is only 22 years old right now and hasn't had a fullseason in Triple A. To think he could step in and have a mid 4 era right now is a huge thing to ask from the guy with the way he has struggled against big league hitters last season and this spring. Just because he can't do it right now doesn't mean he won't in the future. So it's no reason not to have him around. I'm still not sure Hart is going to be a big league starter in his career. I think he will at least be a quality reliever, but who knows if he can start in the big leagues. Right now he has a 4 era out of the bullpen. So again having a mid 4 era as a SP seems unlikely right now.
I agree that Lieber saved us the last two days, but the point I'm trying to make is. We aren't going to have back to back 12 and 15 inning games, and were not going to have starting pitchers go 3-4 innings twice in a week very often. This week Lieber has been very valueable, but this week has been very rare. We might have maybe 1-2 weeks like this for the rest of the season. So when that happens, then what do we do with Lieber? He just comes in garbage time when were losing by 4-5 runs or winning by 6-7 runs? Because most of the time thats what the long relievers do. When the guy could potentially be your second to fourth best starter this season there's no reason not to start him.
by cubsfan25 on Apr 13, 2008 11:06 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
IMO,
Lieber will not prove to be an appreciably better starter this season that either Lilly or Hill, but he will be a starting pitcher, probably by the ASB, at the latest.
"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07
by gary varsho on Apr 13, 2008 11:35 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
cubs
looks like the same old cubs.put together a winning streak and then put together a losing streak.the even steven syndrome.
by NOMAR on Apr 13, 2008 9:34 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
it's called baseball
lol
"The Cubs can't be stopped" -- Me
by lilkimmer77 on Apr 13, 2008 10:12 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Too true.
Baseball is almost as frustrating a game as golf.
"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07
by gary varsho on Apr 13, 2008 10:18 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm actually hoping to see
Lieber in there just to see how the Phil's fans react. Lots of fans around me on Friday night were asking about him. It also would've been nice for him to chat with our hitters a little bit about what the Phil's pitchers do, but then again knowing whats coming doesn't always mean you can hit it.
I've got nice seats along the third base side this afternoon. I'm expecting to see the bats come alive a little bit, and actually thinking this is a great time for Marquis to throw a nice 6 innings and get back to "first half form".
I listened to the Phil's pregame last night, they were raving about the Cubs young talent and of course about Derek Lee.
I'm taking the train today because the traffic and parking is as advertised. I'm expecting a W this afternoon.
Go Cubs!!
by philadelphiacub on Apr 13, 2008 10:02 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I'd like to see
both Hart and Gallagher in the rotation. Whatever is wrong with Lilly and Hill shouldn't be worked on in their starts. Like Lilly himself says, you can't have four side sessions between starts.
by crazymountain on Apr 13, 2008 10:09 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Gallagher?
From right field :)
"The Cubs can't be stopped" -- Me
by lilkimmer77 on Apr 13, 2008 10:13 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I don't think Hart is quite ready to start.
He's got a good arm, but he's not a really ready to "pitch" if you know what I mean. I'd like to see Gallgher get a start or two, though.
"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07
by gary varsho on Apr 13, 2008 10:19 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well, Hill and Lilly don't seem ready to pitch either!!
by crazymountain on Apr 13, 2008 10:25 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
LOL! Very true.
But they've got experience to rely on. I don't want to toss Hart out there too soon.
"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07
by gary varsho on Apr 13, 2008 10:27 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
TBS Schedule
Can someone provide a link or list of the TBS games this year? Thanks!
by SecondSon on Apr 13, 2008 10:16 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Here you go.
It's complete through May 25; this is the Cubs' only appearance through that date.
Note that you will hear the lovely tones of Chip Caray announcing.
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by Al on Apr 13, 2008 11:23 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
SWUNG ON AND BELTED.....(and the ball lands 10 feet in front of the warning track..)
Felix Pie must play everyday!
by JB 23 on Apr 13, 2008 11:25 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Soft-throwing lefty = disaster this millenium so far
Why is it that the right-handed dominated Cub lineup usually struggles against soft-throwing lefties? Yes, they see more righties throughout the year etc. etc. but I just don't get it. Jamie M will most likely nibble and throw his changes and the Cubs will flail. Hamels was a different story last night--he was unhittable. But even the lefties that have just ONE speed--slow--seem to baffle us. Let's hope I'm wrong today!!
"Fat, drunk, and stupid is no way to go through life, son." -- Dean Wormer
by kentmeister on Apr 13, 2008 10:27 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Hamels was amazing last night.
Let's hope the Cubs bring the big sticks today against Moyer.
"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07
by gary varsho on Apr 13, 2008 10:29 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Sounds good!
Perhaps the fundamentally-sound Fukudome will hit a few line drives into the seats. It's so easy to get one out of there.
"Fat, drunk, and stupid is no way to go through life, son." -- Dean Wormer
by kentmeister on Apr 13, 2008 10:32 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
usually
except w/ the wind blowing in hard from left like later in the game last night. that was unusual.
"Fat, drunk, and stupid is no way to go through life, son." -- Dean Wormer
by kentmeister on Apr 13, 2008 10:33 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
That wind was really wierd.
I haven't seen anything like that since that wacky Bears-49er's game.
"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07
by gary varsho on Apr 13, 2008 10:35 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Also,
Moyer should be easier to run on. I'd like to see the Cubs be aggressive on the basepaths.
"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07
by gary varsho on Apr 13, 2008 10:36 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hamels is gonna win multiple Cy Youngs before he is done...
by crazymountain on Apr 13, 2008 10:55 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Likely.
His breaking stuff is tremendous when he's on.
"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07
by gary varsho on Apr 13, 2008 10:57 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
His changeup...
Is devastating as well. It left our hitters looking pretty silly last night.
"The one that invent the light tried 2,000 times and finally he did it, we have light...I don't want to spend 2,000 times to win Opening Day" Carlos Zambrano
by CubsBullsBears on Apr 13, 2008 10:58 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Not sure about multiple
There's a lot of better pitchers in the NL than Hamels. Plus he pitches in a hitters park which kind of inflates some of his numbers.
" I want to point something out in the quickly-becoming-tiresome Old Media vs. Bloggers debate: most stuff sucks. All stuff. In all forms. Most books suck. Most movies suck. Most magazines suck. Most trees likely suck if you get to know them. Fish, bugs, various metals -- they all probably mostly suck". - FJM 4/6/8
by lemon20pie on Apr 13, 2008 10:59 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I can only think of three, maybe four:
Peavy, Webb, Santana and maybe Zambrano. Hamels is really good, and if he pitched in a home park like Peavy's, he'd be even more effective.
"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07
by gary varsho on Apr 13, 2008 11:01 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
He is as good as Glavine was in the 90's
same kind of pitcher but Hamels has, in my opinion, better stuff than Glavine did
by crazymountain on Apr 13, 2008 11:03 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
He's got a ways to go before
I'd give him that much credit, but he's got that type of talent, for sure.
"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07
by gary varsho on Apr 13, 2008 11:06 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
others
I would take Oswalt over Hamels as well and I think Cain could be a very good pitcher for many years. Haren is up there too. Sheets as well if he could ever stay healthy.
There's enough competition where I could see Hamels never winning a CY
" I want to point something out in the quickly-becoming-tiresome Old Media vs. Bloggers debate: most stuff sucks. All stuff. In all forms. Most books suck. Most movies suck. Most magazines suck. Most trees likely suck if you get to know them. Fish, bugs, various metals -- they all probably mostly suck". - FJM 4/6/8
by lemon20pie on Apr 13, 2008 11:07 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Oswalt?
You're crazy. Houston would make that deal right now, straight up. Cain is very good, as is Haren and Sheets, but none of them are as dominant as Hamels, IMO. Sheets, maybe, but he's prone to the bad inning and his arm is made of eggshells and wet toilet paper.
"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07
by gary varsho on Apr 13, 2008 11:10 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
IN 8 seasons Oswalt's career ERA is 3.14
His worst season ERA wise was 3.49 and he's pitched over 200 innings in 6 of his 8 seasons. Not too shabby if you ask me and certainly doesn't make me crazy to think he's an elite pitcher who will contend for CY award.
Sure the Astros would take Hamels for Oswalt, mainly because Oswalt is 7 years older than Hamels.
" I want to point something out in the quickly-becoming-tiresome Old Media vs. Bloggers debate: most stuff sucks. All stuff. In all forms. Most books suck. Most movies suck. Most magazines suck. Most trees likely suck if you get to know them. Fish, bugs, various metals -- they all probably mostly suck". - FJM 4/6/8
by lemon20pie on Apr 13, 2008 11:15 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Look at Oswalt's last two seasons.
He's a good pitcher, but he's not what he was, at all. Right now, he's not better than Hamels.
"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07
by gary varsho on Apr 13, 2008 11:17 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Last year
Oswalt had a 3.18 era in 212 IP and was 14-7 on a crappy team. Those are pretty ace like numbers to me. I know he has a 9 era right now, but like Lilly and Hill it's only been 3 starts.
by cubsfan25 on Apr 13, 2008 11:21 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
This proves what about Hamels?
"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07
by gary varsho on Apr 13, 2008 11:23 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Oswalts last 2 seasons he put up ERA"s of
3..18 and 2.98 respectively. Both better than Hamels last 2 seasons.
Hamels is a good pitcher but I think you might be undervaluing Oswalt, just a bit.
" I want to point something out in the quickly-becoming-tiresome Old Media vs. Bloggers debate: most stuff sucks. All stuff. In all forms. Most books suck. Most movies suck. Most magazines suck. Most trees likely suck if you get to know them. Fish, bugs, various metals -- they all probably mostly suck". - FJM 4/6/8
by lemon20pie on Apr 13, 2008 11:23 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think Oswalt...
... may be on the way down. It's only three starts, but he has allowed 30 (!) hits in 16 IP, and 5 HR already.
"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx
by Al on Apr 13, 2008 11:25 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Perhaps.
Also, I think he's an enormous asshat, so that might be tinting my perspective a bit.
"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07
by gary varsho on Apr 13, 2008 11:25 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Oswalt
is very very good. He's actually very underrated his numbers are either right there or better then most of the best NL pitchers year in and year out. Right now though Oswalt is struggling as bad as Ted Lilly. Dan Haren has had one ace like year so, with two middle of the rotation type seasons in his career. So I don't put him in the top pitchers in the NL right now.
It's gotta be Peavy, Santana, Webb, Oswalt, Zambrano, Sheets(when healthy) and Hamel. Matt Cain has great stuff, but he hasn't quite lived up to his potential yet.
by cubsfan25 on Apr 13, 2008 11:19 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Lets hope
the good Jason Marquis shows up today. I hope we see a ton of lightly hit ground balls and Marquis goes about 7 innings. Plus lets hope we can score at least 4-5 runs off Moyer today. The first two games of this series have sucked. But if we can win today it will still be a successful 4-2 road trip.
by cubsfan25 on Apr 13, 2008 10:40 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Marquis has to keep the ball down today.
You're exactly right. Need to see lots of ground balls today.
"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07
by gary varsho on Apr 13, 2008 10:44 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
It would be nice...
to get Moyer out early. Let's hope he has a really bad day.....
by crazymountain on Apr 13, 2008 11:00 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Moyer throws
four pitches; a slow one, a slower one, a really slow one and a really really slow one. Our hitters do badly against the soft toss. Note the first inning home runs the other night and nothing but soft toss after that......I think, to get their timing right, we should send our lineup to the plate with a picnic lunch and a six-pack....
by crazymountain on Apr 13, 2008 10:49 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
LOL
You're on too something! Tie their arms up and shoot 'em up with some black tar heroin.
Speaking of Heroin and athletes, well Heroin anyways, anyone see that Nascar driver who admitted he was driving in a race while under the influence of Heroin??? What's even more amazing is I think he finished 5th!!
" I want to point something out in the quickly-becoming-tiresome Old Media vs. Bloggers debate: most stuff sucks. All stuff. In all forms. Most books suck. Most movies suck. Most magazines suck. Most trees likely suck if you get to know them. Fish, bugs, various metals -- they all probably mostly suck". - FJM 4/6/8
by lemon20pie on Apr 13, 2008 10:56 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hits and Runs predictions
Cubs break out today:
CHC 11 H 6 R
PHI 8 H 4 R
" I want to point something out in the quickly-becoming-tiresome Old Media vs. Bloggers debate: most stuff sucks. All stuff. In all forms. Most books suck. Most movies suck. Most magazines suck. Most trees likely suck if you get to know them. Fish, bugs, various metals -- they all probably mostly suck". - FJM 4/6/8
by lemon20pie on Apr 13, 2008 10:52 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
It will be cold there today
Marquis pitches better in the cold
by coral on Apr 13, 2008 10:54 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
and it's the first half of the season!
so he's got a chance :-)
"Strange women lying about in ponds distributing swords is no basis for a system of government!"
by kentmeister on Apr 13, 2008 10:55 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Living in PA and seeing lots of Burrell...
all you have to do is NOT throw it in that little spot where he can crush it. He WILL draw a walk, but he won't hit one hard that's not in a place through which his seemingly premeditated swing passes. I heard a teammate tease his about this once and my Phillie-fan friends are always lamenting his approach at the plate. Yet still he hit us (and the Mets too for some reason).
"Strange women lying about in ponds distributing swords is no basis for a system of government!"
by kentmeister on Apr 13, 2008 11:00 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Funny story.
Watching the game yesterday with me father-in-law. Burrell swings and misses a pitch, and my father in sort of chuckles and says "He had made up his mind to swing even before the pitcher had the sign." All part of the fun with Pat the Bat.
"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07
by gary varsho on Apr 13, 2008 11:02 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
yep.
he'd be the greatest adult tee-ball player in history! Kruk also referenced him awhile back, saying you have to adjust and "use your hands" once in awhile
"Strange women lying about in ponds distributing swords is no basis for a system of government!"
by kentmeister on Apr 13, 2008 11:04 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Can you imagine how good
Burrell would be at 16-inch softball? He'd probably hit in the lake half the time.
"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07
by gary varsho on Apr 13, 2008 11:08 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Apparently,
with me father-in-law
I am also channeling the Lucky Charms leprechaun. Ye gods.
"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07
by gary varsho on Apr 13, 2008 11:07 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
One good thing about the game being on TBS....
HD!!!
by LT on Apr 13, 2008 11:02 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I was just thinking about that...
Do I want better picture or better anouncers
by GoCubbies34 on Apr 13, 2008 11:09 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Who's doing the game for TBS?
" I want to point something out in the quickly-becoming-tiresome Old Media vs. Bloggers debate: most stuff sucks. All stuff. In all forms. Most books suck. Most movies suck. Most magazines suck. Most trees likely suck if you get to know them. Fish, bugs, various metals -- they all probably mostly suck". - FJM 4/6/8
by lemon20pie on Apr 13, 2008 11:09 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Chip Caray and Buck Martinez
Not too bad....
by LT on Apr 13, 2008 11:13 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Chip Caray
is a poor man's Joe Buck. Do not want.
"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07
by gary varsho on Apr 13, 2008 11:14 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Your opinion
But Chip is a million times better than Buck IMHO.
by LT on Apr 13, 2008 11:23 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Potato, potahto
They're both hacks trading on the names of greater sires.
"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07
by gary varsho on Apr 13, 2008 11:27 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I can tolerate Martinez
but Chip on the other hand.
" I want to point something out in the quickly-becoming-tiresome Old Media vs. Bloggers debate: most stuff sucks. All stuff. In all forms. Most books suck. Most movies suck. Most magazines suck. Most trees likely suck if you get to know them. Fish, bugs, various metals -- they all probably mostly suck". - FJM 4/6/8
by lemon20pie on Apr 13, 2008 11:17 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I dunno.
Chip isn't my favorite, but I've heard far worse.
"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx
by Al on Apr 13, 2008 11:25 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Such as?
I think Chip is terrifically uninformed, overly dramatic and intrusive. He, McCarver, Buch, Morgan, Grace and Lyons are about equally bad. Perhaps only Vasgersigan is worse.
"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07
by gary varsho on Apr 13, 2008 11:29 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
cough.. Joe Morgan...cough
I agree. I actually liked his enthusiasm and his HR calls. What really annoyed me is when sometimes the way he would talk to Stone and trying to be funny or cute and raise his voice an octave.
" I want to point something out in the quickly-becoming-tiresome Old Media vs. Bloggers debate: most stuff sucks. All stuff. In all forms. Most books suck. Most movies suck. Most magazines suck. Most trees likely suck if you get to know them. Fish, bugs, various metals -- they all probably mostly suck". - FJM 4/6/8
by lemon20pie on Apr 13, 2008 11:29 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Mark Grace
THE WORST EVA!!!!!
I live in AZ and have to put up with him and he just flat out sucks.
" I want to point something out in the quickly-becoming-tiresome Old Media vs. Bloggers debate: most stuff sucks. All stuff. In all forms. Most books suck. Most movies suck. Most magazines suck. Most trees likely suck if you get to know them. Fish, bugs, various metals -- they all probably mostly suck". - FJM 4/6/8
by lemon20pie on Apr 13, 2008 11:31 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah.
Gracie is an atrocious announcer.
"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07
by gary varsho on Apr 13, 2008 11:32 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
When Marquis
is on he can shut down even the best offenses, even in tough ballparks. Last July against the Phillies at Wrigley Marquis pitched a 6 IP, 3 ER and the Cubs won 7-3. Marquis even shut out the Rockies for 6.2 IP at Coors Field last year in August. The problem with Marquis is he's really inconsistent. About half his starts in a month he's pretty good and will either win or keep the team in the game. But in the other 2-3 starts that month he gets hit hard and needs a litle luck or great defense to come up with quality starts.
by cubsfan25 on Apr 13, 2008 11:15 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Lineups
Cubs
Soriano, LF
Johnson, CF
Lee, 1B
Ramirez, 3B
Fukudome, RF
DeRosa, 2B
Theriot, SS
Blanco, C
Marquis, P
Phils
Jenkins, RF
Werth, CF
Utley, 2B
Howard, 1B
Burrell, LF
Feliz, 3B
Coste, C
Bruntlett, SS
Moyer, P
by Bruce Miles on Apr 13, 2008 11:30 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I though Cedeno was supposed to play today.
Oh, well. Thanks for the lineups, Bruce.
"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07
by gary varsho on Apr 13, 2008 11:31 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I might bat Marquis 7th in that lineup.
n/t
"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx
by Al on Apr 13, 2008 11:49 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I might make Marquis play shortstop in that lineup.
Pasta diving Theriot!
by cwyers on Apr 13, 2008 11:58 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Pastadivindg Theriot is just begging
for a SWL photoshop...
"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07
by gary varsho on Apr 13, 2008 11:59 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I honestly can't come up with any pictures...
...of Theriot diving for baseballs. Perhaps it's an assignment for BCB's official photographer?
by cwyers on Apr 13, 2008 12:00 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Here's one that's perfect
"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07
by gary varsho on Apr 13, 2008 12:03 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Note the lack of a baseball...
...anywhere in that picture.
by cwyers on Apr 13, 2008 12:45 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Thus my tagging it as "perfect"
"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07
by gary varsho on Apr 13, 2008 1:19 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'll ask him to see if he can capture this.
But the one below is pretty good.
"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx
by Al on Apr 13, 2008 12:31 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I love it.
The Pasta brothers:
Pasta Diving Theriot and Pasta Swinging Soriano.
"Confidence is what you have before you understand the problem." Woody Allen
by BlueSox on Apr 13, 2008 12:01 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Love the billboard picture.
I think that says it all. No need to elaborate. C'MON!!!
"Don't complain to me about the stormy weather, boys. Just bring the ship into port." --Steve Stone, September 2004
by ctcoff99 on Apr 13, 2008 11:53 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
With Yosh retiring
Maybe Henry Blanco can help w/ the dirty uni's. From the off-season reports he appears to be have experience in laundering...
"Strange women lying about in ponds distributing swords is no basis for a system of government!"
by kentmeister on Apr 13, 2008 11:54 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
It's almost 2AM here in Japan....
and your Cubs-Phillies game will be televised live on my satellite channel, starting at 2:30AM JST.... I don't know I can keep my eyes open before the game start...
Today (actually yesterday afternoon) I watched challenge match game between recent national champion HS from Okinawa vs their arch rival here, and witnessed a dramatic, huge grand slam - he, I and everybody there knew it's gone right after the impact.
You'll need that kind of long-ball power in upcoming game to snap losing streak, right? Hopely from Dome who's got last night off.
by dragonsfanatic on Apr 13, 2008 11:55 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
That'd be great!
Since you are getting satellite coverage you will probably be seeing the TBS feed. Let us know how you like Chip Caray.
"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx
by Al on Apr 13, 2008 12:01 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I will record the game
on my HDD recorder in anyway, and let you know later how I feel on his pronunciation of "Fukudome" ;-)
by dragonsfanatic on Apr 13, 2008 12:04 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
confirmed
the pronunciation was perfect.
by dragonsfanatic on Apr 13, 2008 12:38 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Thought it was interesting that.....
Jenkins was leading off until I read Al's memo regarding Jenkins pounding Marquis. Thanks for the info Al.
by louslovechild on Apr 13, 2008 11:59 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
That's still a bit odd.
Jenkins and Werth 1-2. Weird. I guess there's at least one AB where Marquis can't pitch around Jenkins.
"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07
by gary varsho on Apr 13, 2008 12:01 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Phillies Vs. Marquis
Wow. Ignorance is bliss. I felt a lot better about today's game before looking at the phillies lineups splits against Marquis. Not one hitter has an average under .300 against Marquis.....gulp.
Jenkins .313 - 0 HR's
Werth 2-5 .400 - 0 HR's
Utley 6-13 .462 - 0 HR's
Howard 2-6 .333 0 HR's
Burrell 10-28 .357 - 1 HR
Feliz 4-10 .400 - 0 HR's
Coste 4-6 .667 - 0 HR's
Bruntlett 1-2 .500 - 0 HR's
Good news is he's only given up 1 HR to this lineup and ofcourse it's to Burrell the newest and mightiest of Cub killers.
" I want to point something out in the quickly-becoming-tiresome Old Media vs. Bloggers debate: most stuff sucks. All stuff. In all forms. Most books suck. Most movies suck. Most magazines suck. Most trees likely suck if you get to know them. Fish, bugs, various metals -- they all probably mostly suck". - FJM 4/6/8
by lemon20pie on Apr 13, 2008 12:00 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Ye gods, man!
This could be an ugly day for our Cubs...
"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07
by gary varsho on Apr 13, 2008 12:01 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
The good news....
is that if Marquis is on, he is a ground-ball pitcher, which might explain why he has only given up one home run to this lineup. However, a lot of those ground balls, apparently, have found holes in the infield.
"Don't complain to me about the stormy weather, boys. Just bring the ship into port." --Steve Stone, September 2004
by ctcoff99 on Apr 13, 2008 12:10 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
7 XBH overall, so
it's not all sharp grounders. Jenkins has 3 triples against Marquis. That's weird. Never imagined Jenkins as a triples kinda guy.
"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07
by gary varsho on Apr 13, 2008 12:14 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Cubs Vs. Moyer
Soriano 9-44 .205 - 4 HR's
Johnson 9-27 .333 - 1 HR
Lee 2-3 - .667 0 HR
Ramirez 0-5
DOme 0-0
Derosa 3-10 .300 - 0 HR
Theriot 1-6 .167
Blanco 3-9 .333
" I want to point something out in the quickly-becoming-tiresome Old Media vs. Bloggers debate: most stuff sucks. All stuff. In all forms. Most books suck. Most movies suck. Most magazines suck. Most trees likely suck if you get to know them. Fish, bugs, various metals -- they all probably mostly suck". - FJM 4/6/8
by lemon20pie on Apr 13, 2008 12:15 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Surprised to see with the exception of Soriano and Johnson
That the Cubs really haven't seen too much of Moyer. Theriot has more plate appearences than Ramirez is odd as well.
What isn't surprising is that this lineup has drawn only 3 walks and struck out 20 times.
" I want to point something out in the quickly-becoming-tiresome Old Media vs. Bloggers debate: most stuff sucks. All stuff. In all forms. Most books suck. Most movies suck. Most magazines suck. Most trees likely suck if you get to know them. Fish, bugs, various metals -- they all probably mostly suck". - FJM 4/6/8
by lemon20pie on Apr 13, 2008 12:21 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Ronny Cedeno has hit...
....375/.375/.500 against Moyer in his career.
I don't think it means anything, myself, but I was suprised to see Lou not giving him a chance.
by cwyers on Apr 13, 2008 12:50 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I don't feel too optimistic
about Marquis helping us avoid the sweep today. I think we will need to score a lot of runs to win. Our hitters are certainly due, as they haven't done much so far in Philly. It would be nice to put 9 or 10 on the board.
by qccub on Apr 13, 2008 12:14 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
A Getaway Day Win ....
..... breaks a 2 game skid and prevents a sweep by the '07 NL East Champion Phils
.... gives us a decent 4-2 trip
.... improves the Cubs to 7-5 (preventing a fall back to .500 for the year and the trip)
.... and gives the team a nice boost before an off day tomorrow
So, sure, it's only game 12, but WINNING TODAY IS HUGE!
GO CUBS GO !!!!
If It Takes Forever ....
by wrigley1 on Apr 13, 2008 12:28 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Nothing screams "Let's Play Baseball!"
Like a rousing replay of "Drumline." Yikes.
LET'S GO CUBS!
"You just don't know understand how frustrating this is"- Kevin Borseth
by TkGoUWGB on Apr 13, 2008 12:29 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Why do I have a TV show called DEA on TBS???
" I want to point something out in the quickly-becoming-tiresome Old Media vs. Bloggers debate: most stuff sucks. All stuff. In all forms. Most books suck. Most movies suck. Most magazines suck. Most trees likely suck if you get to know them. Fish, bugs, various metals -- they all probably mostly suck". - FJM 4/6/8
by lemon20pie on Apr 13, 2008 12:33 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Nevermind....woooo
False alarm. Technical difficulties with my remote.
" I want to point something out in the quickly-becoming-tiresome Old Media vs. Bloggers debate: most stuff sucks. All stuff. In all forms. Most books suck. Most movies suck. Most magazines suck. Most trees likely suck if you get to know them. Fish, bugs, various metals -- they all probably mostly suck". - FJM 4/6/8
by lemon20pie on Apr 13, 2008 12:34 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Looks like another decent day in Philly
The Cubs have been very fortunate so far I think concerning the weather.
" I want to point something out in the quickly-becoming-tiresome Old Media vs. Bloggers debate: most stuff sucks. All stuff. In all forms. Most books suck. Most movies suck. Most magazines suck. Most trees likely suck if you get to know them. Fish, bugs, various metals -- they all probably mostly suck". - FJM 4/6/8
by lemon20pie on Apr 13, 2008 12:35 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Go Cubs !!
We really need that ball to carry for us today
by coral on Apr 13, 2008 12:38 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
TBS
is anyone else outside of chicago blacked-out?
by BelieveinBlue2314 on Apr 13, 2008 12:39 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Blacked out here
in Bloomington, IN.
"Strikeouts are boring! Besides that, they're fascist. Throw some ground balls - it's more democratic." -Bull Durham
by stellasiri on Apr 13, 2008 12:40 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
me too
im in indy and i cant get it
by BelieveinBlue2314 on Apr 13, 2008 12:41 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
MLB is run by idiots.
So you can't get CSN, and you can't get TBS.
Why do they want to prevent you from watching. S T U P I D !!!!!!!
"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx
by Al on Apr 13, 2008 12:46 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Odd.
I get both channels for some reason.
by cwyers on Apr 13, 2008 12:48 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Blacked Out
In the middle of Iowa. At least for me anyway. Dang it.
by tigerhawk61 on Apr 13, 2008 12:51 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Champaign-Urbana is blacked out on TBS
"Confidence is what you have before you understand the problem." Woody Allen
by BlueSox on Apr 13, 2008 12:40 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Same in Iowa
thank goodness we have CSN though.
by sue369 on Apr 13, 2008 12:51 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm in Davenport, IA with DirecTV...
...and I'm getting both. Really makes no sense to me.
by cwyers on Apr 13, 2008 12:52 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I have Dish
I don't know if the provider matters or not.
"Confidence is what you have before you understand the problem." Woody Allen
by BlueSox on Apr 13, 2008 12:53 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I have DirecTV
and am in north central Iowa. That doesn't make sense at all.
by sue369 on Apr 13, 2008 12:54 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Woe...
Phillies Sunday unis... Not aesthetic.
"When you have a fat friend there are no see-saws, only catapults." --Demetri Martin
by Reddevil on Apr 13, 2008 12:39 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I've got the CSN HD feed for the game.
Guess I won't get to catch up with Chip. Damn.
by cwyers on Apr 13, 2008 12:39 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Good heavens.
What are those Philly uniforms?
"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx
by Al on Apr 13, 2008 12:39 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
haha
looks kind of like the old California Angels uni's.
by grifdog on Apr 13, 2008 12:40 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
No kidding...
I think Wally Joyner is playing 1B.
"When you have a fat friend there are no see-saws, only catapults." --Demetri Martin
by Reddevil on Apr 13, 2008 12:41 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
With Devon White in CF?
"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07
by gary varsho on Apr 13, 2008 12:42 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Len mentioned something last night about a "Sunday" uniform.
Maybe it's a retro thing.
by cwyers on Apr 13, 2008 12:40 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Len says they are the '40's uniforms.
"Confidence is what you have before you understand the problem." Woody Allen
by BlueSox on Apr 13, 2008 12:43 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Here's the uniform.
1949 Phillies:
They're wearing red socks, though, not blue.
"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx
by Al on Apr 13, 2008 12:48 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Since we're talking about uniforms...
...I was at Wal-Mart yesterday, and I saw one of those half-and-half jerseys - Cardinals-Angels.
I have no. earthly. idea.
Especially since it had Pujols' name and number on the back.
by cwyers on Apr 13, 2008 12:44 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Cub hitters
Should crowd the plate a little more knowing Moyer is going to work almost exclusively on the outer half.
by grifdog on Apr 13, 2008 12:46 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I'm hoping someone
will point out to Derrick that he really needs to swing at the outside pitch with 2 strikes -- even if it really isn't a strike.
"Confidence is what you have before you understand the problem." Woody Allen
by BlueSox on Apr 13, 2008 12:47 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Is it just me...
Or does Marquis look a little more...um... rotund?
"When you have a fat friend there are no see-saws, only catapults." --Demetri Martin
by Reddevil on Apr 13, 2008 12:47 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
You might be on to something.
n/t
"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx
by Al on Apr 13, 2008 12:48 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Keep throwing the ball down and in to Jenkins marquis
great idea.
" I want to point something out in the quickly-becoming-tiresome Old Media vs. Bloggers debate: most stuff sucks. All stuff. In all forms. Most books suck. Most movies suck. Most magazines suck. Most trees likely suck if you get to know them. Fish, bugs, various metals -- they all probably mostly suck". - FJM 4/6/8
by lemon20pie on Apr 13, 2008 12:47 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
HBP to Werth
" I want to point something out in the quickly-becoming-tiresome Old Media vs. Bloggers debate: most stuff sucks. All stuff. In all forms. Most books suck. Most movies suck. Most magazines suck. Most trees likely suck if you get to know them. Fish, bugs, various metals -- they all probably mostly suck". - FJM 4/6/8
by lemon20pie on Apr 13, 2008 12:49 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
When was the last game Lieber pitched???
" I want to point something out in the quickly-becoming-tiresome Old Media vs. Bloggers debate: most stuff sucks. All stuff. In all forms. Most books suck. Most movies suck. Most magazines suck. Most trees likely suck if you get to know them. Fish, bugs, various metals -- they all probably mostly suck". - FJM 4/6/8
by lemon20pie on Apr 13, 2008 12:50 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Hill's already supposed to pitch in relief today...
...and go for several innings. So if Marquis can't get through the inning or can only go for 3-4 innings, I'd expect to see Hill come in.
by cwyers on Apr 13, 2008 12:51 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Whoa
I never noticed those badass tat's on Blanco's forearms before.
by grifdog on Apr 13, 2008 12:50 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Blacked out in Indy but why is tbs airing this game?
by muffman on Apr 13, 2008 12:52 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
TBS is no longer a Braves station.
They do weekly Sunday broadcasts now.
by cwyers on Apr 13, 2008 12:52 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
walk Howard?
" I want to point something out in the quickly-becoming-tiresome Old Media vs. Bloggers debate: most stuff sucks. All stuff. In all forms. Most books suck. Most movies suck. Most magazines suck. Most trees likely suck if you get to know them. Fish, bugs, various metals -- they all probably mostly suck". - FJM 4/6/8
by lemon20pie on Apr 13, 2008 12:52 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
he's struggling with runners in scoring poistion
but looks like Marquis is pitching around him
Finally!
by Chanman25 on Apr 13, 2008 12:53 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
maybe not give him a good pitch to hit.
n/t
by zevkalman on Apr 13, 2008 12:53 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Haven't seen
Many runners thrown out so far this year.
"When you have a fat friend there are no see-saws, only catapults." --Demetri Martin
by Reddevil on Apr 13, 2008 12:52 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Cubs have thrown out four and allowed eight...
...steals before this game. So a .666 SB% against our guys in the early running. I can live with that.
by cwyers on Apr 13, 2008 12:54 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
That's an interesting question.
We have two players in the infield with good hands but limited range. Is there a disadvantage to that over having an equally talented shortstop overall that has worse hands but better range? I wonder...
by cwyers on Apr 13, 2008 12:57 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Burrell is on deck
the only hitter in this lineup to hit a HR off him
" I want to point something out in the quickly-becoming-tiresome Old Media vs. Bloggers debate: most stuff sucks. All stuff. In all forms. Most books suck. Most movies suck. Most magazines suck. Most trees likely suck if you get to know them. Fish, bugs, various metals -- they all probably mostly suck". - FJM 4/6/8
by lemon20pie on Apr 13, 2008 12:54 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
This is pretty scary
Don't feel too good about it either. Tailor made DP one timeeeee
by grifdog on Apr 13, 2008 12:54 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
horrible pitch
lucky we're not down 4-0
by grifdog on Apr 13, 2008 12:55 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Whew
" I want to point something out in the quickly-becoming-tiresome Old Media vs. Bloggers debate: most stuff sucks. All stuff. In all forms. Most books suck. Most movies suck. Most magazines suck. Most trees likely suck if you get to know them. Fish, bugs, various metals -- they all probably mostly suck". - FJM 4/6/8
by lemon20pie on Apr 13, 2008 12:55 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
phew
that sounded like a grand slam
Finally!
by Chanman25 on Apr 13, 2008 12:55 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
just got that one off end of bat
" I want to point something out in the quickly-becoming-tiresome Old Media vs. Bloggers debate: most stuff sucks. All stuff. In all forms. Most books suck. Most movies suck. Most magazines suck. Most trees likely suck if you get to know them. Fish, bugs, various metals -- they all probably mostly suck". - FJM 4/6/8
by lemon20pie on Apr 13, 2008 12:55 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Dear lord, i thought that was gone
off the bat, whew
by dogcatratcheese on Apr 13, 2008 12:55 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
that ball was crushed
Every player should be accorded the privilege of at least one season with the Chicago Cubs. That's baseball as it should be played - in God's own sunshine. And that's really living."
by DC Cubbie on Apr 13, 2008 12:55 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I'm glad I'm not the only person...
...that was actually relieved that ball stayed in the yard.
by cwyers on Apr 13, 2008 12:56 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
it sounded gone
luckily it wasn't!
Finally!
by Chanman25 on Apr 13, 2008 12:56 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
just off end of bat
might've cracked his bat.
" I want to point something out in the quickly-becoming-tiresome Old Media vs. Bloggers debate: most stuff sucks. All stuff. In all forms. Most books suck. Most movies suck. Most magazines suck. Most trees likely suck if you get to know them. Fish, bugs, various metals -- they all probably mostly suck". - FJM 4/6/8
by lemon20pie on Apr 13, 2008 12:57 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
alright
could have been a lot worse
by dogcatratcheese on Apr 13, 2008 12:56 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Love the picture
of the Cubs billboard.
I don't have the warm fuzzies about Marquis.
by sue369 on Apr 13, 2008 12:56 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
coulda been much worse....
..I thought Burrell killed that too..
Felix Pie must play everyday!
by JB 23 on Apr 13, 2008 12:56 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Call me a nattering nabob of negativism
but this one doesn't feel good.
"When you have a fat friend there are no see-saws, only catapults." --Demetri Martin
by Reddevil on Apr 13, 2008 12:57 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Please for
the love of God get some runs now.
by sue369 on Apr 13, 2008 12:57 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Finally, the "wind" was at our backs and kept the ball in.
Man...I was sure it was gonna be gone.
by zevkalman on Apr 13, 2008 12:57 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
ramirez, dome, derosa
we have to match
by BelieveinBlue2314 on Apr 13, 2008 12:58 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
You'd like to score some runs...
...before our T-ball hitters come up in the bottom of the order, that's for sure.
by cwyers on Apr 13, 2008 12:59 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Watch.
Those'll be the guys who will hit.
I know, that makes no logical sense. But sometimes it happens that way.
"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx
by Al on Apr 13, 2008 1:00 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
yeah happens
i just bought wrigley season ticket Al.... good stuff, I really like it.
by BelieveinBlue2314 on Apr 13, 2008 1:01 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Sometimes, yep.
Baseball's a real streaky game, and even the worst major league players are still real talents, and so they're going to get hits sometimes.
But I wouldn't go betting on it.
by cwyers on Apr 13, 2008 1:02 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Oh, no, I wouldn't.
Just sayin'.
"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx
by Al on Apr 13, 2008 1:07 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
wow its mind boggling how our bats are finding their gloves so consistently
by cubsnlinux on Apr 13, 2008 12:59 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
agreed, A-ram crushed that
but a liner right to 3rd, where as that utley lazy grounder found a hold
by dogcatratcheese on Apr 13, 2008 1:00 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I love watching DOme hit
" I want to point something out in the quickly-becoming-tiresome Old Media vs. Bloggers debate: most stuff sucks. All stuff. In all forms. Most books suck. Most movies suck. Most magazines suck. Most trees likely suck if you get to know them. Fish, bugs, various metals -- they all probably mostly suck". - FJM 4/6/8
by lemon20pie on Apr 13, 2008 1:00 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
nice hustle
" I want to point something out in the quickly-becoming-tiresome Old Media vs. Bloggers debate: most stuff sucks. All stuff. In all forms. Most books suck. Most movies suck. Most magazines suck. Most trees likely suck if you get to know them. Fish, bugs, various metals -- they all probably mostly suck". - FJM 4/6/8
by lemon20pie on Apr 13, 2008 1:01 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Nice speed Dome!
n/t
"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx
by Al on Apr 13, 2008 1:01 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
You better...
Outrun a 45 year old man.
"The one that invent the light tried 2,000 times and finally he did it, we have light...I don't want to spend 2,000 times to win Opening Day" Carlos Zambrano
by CubsBullsBears on Apr 13, 2008 1:01 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Marquis = Brutal
He' will give up 3 in the 2nd
by Reed's Johnson on Apr 13, 2008 1:01 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Reed's Johnson?
Seriously?
"Is there anything he can't do?" ~Len Kasper, 4/5/08, on Kosuke Fukudome
by JohnM on Apr 13, 2008 1:20 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
i like to see that kind of hit
but he's been hitting a lot of weak grounders in the past few games.
by dogcatratcheese on Apr 13, 2008 1:02 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
He didnt stop to admire that one....:)
Felix Pie must play everyday!
by JB 23 on Apr 13, 2008 1:02 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Just beat 45 years old pitcher...
still need to adjust for moving pitches....
by dragonsfanatic on Apr 13, 2008 1:02 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
blew an 80 MPH fastball by him
" I want to point something out in the quickly-becoming-tiresome Old Media vs. Bloggers debate: most stuff sucks. All stuff. In all forms. Most books suck. Most movies suck. Most magazines suck. Most trees likely suck if you get to know them. Fish, bugs, various metals -- they all probably mostly suck". - FJM 4/6/8
by lemon20pie on Apr 13, 2008 1:03 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
he's getting on my nerves as well
" I want to point something out in the quickly-becoming-tiresome Old Media vs. Bloggers debate: most stuff sucks. All stuff. In all forms. Most books suck. Most movies suck. Most magazines suck. Most trees likely suck if you get to know them. Fish, bugs, various metals -- they all probably mostly suck". - FJM 4/6/8
by lemon20pie on Apr 13, 2008 1:04 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
surprised he stayed out of the DP
Every player should be accorded the privilege of at least one season with the Chicago Cubs. That's baseball as it should be played - in God's own sunshine. And that's really living."
by DC Cubbie on Apr 13, 2008 1:04 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Ummm Ryan....
There were 2 outs there btw...
"The one that invent the light tried 2,000 times and finally he did it, we have light...I don't want to spend 2,000 times to win Opening Day" Carlos Zambrano
by CubsBullsBears on Apr 13, 2008 1:04 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
what the...
Theriot trying a sac bunt with 2 outs = classic
by grifdog on Apr 13, 2008 1:04 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Nefi-esque
"The one that invent the light tried 2,000 times and finally he did it, we have light...I don't want to spend 2,000 times to win Opening Day" Carlos Zambrano
by CubsBullsBears on Apr 13, 2008 1:04 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
its the gritty thing to do...
Felix Pie must play everyday!
by JB 23 on Apr 13, 2008 1:05 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
He was probably trying to bunt for a hit.
That said, you don't get much success doing that bunting it straight at the pitcher, and I think I recall Moyer's a pretty good fielder for his position.
by cwyers on Apr 13, 2008 1:05 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
wow
ok so DeRosa doesn't have a hit for two games going and he gets bashed?
Finally!
by Chanman25 on Apr 13, 2008 1:04 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
k's
Is putting the ball on a tee any different than having Moyer pitch? How does he fan anyone?
by matthew23 on Apr 13, 2008 1:04 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Scrappy!
"When you have a fat friend there are no see-saws, only catapults." --Demetri Martin
by Reddevil on Apr 13, 2008 1:04 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
i know its early
but Theriot doesnt look like the same player as last year...if he plays like this for a month...what options do we have
by Reed's Johnson on Apr 13, 2008 1:04 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
As far as players on the 40 man...
* Ronny Cedeno
* DeRosa at short, put Fontenot or Patterson at second
* Play Pie and Johnson and use a short center fielder
by cwyers on Apr 13, 2008 1:06 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
i agree
i like stats, but i also believe in things like chemistry and scrappy play, but i just don't see theriot having the same influence he did as last year, or at least the beginning of last year. he's starting to upset me.
by dogcatratcheese on Apr 13, 2008 1:07 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Theriot
Flash in the pan! Stick a fork in him.
by muffman on Apr 13, 2008 1:04 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
PastaDivingTheriot => tries to walk or bunt nowadays.
he knows his limitations...
by zevkalman on Apr 13, 2008 1:05 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
ill tell you what option we have
CEDENO!!! i like him he isnt bad by any means
by BelieveinBlue2314 on Apr 13, 2008 1:06 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Well, yes he is.
He has talent, but doesn't appear to have baseball smarts. If he had some, he could be a really good player.
I won't hold my breath waiting.
"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx
by Al on Apr 13, 2008 1:08 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I don't know if I'd say Cedeno could be REALLY good.
I think he has the potential to be mediocre or maybe a shade better. Ideally he's a bench player - can hit a bit for his position and makes a nice defense sub-in in the infield.
But I don't know if we have any better options at this point.
by cwyers on Apr 13, 2008 1:09 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Only 2nd inning and already I need a drink
" I want to point something out in the quickly-becoming-tiresome Old Media vs. Bloggers debate: most stuff sucks. All stuff. In all forms. Most books suck. Most movies suck. Most magazines suck. Most trees likely suck if you get to know them. Fish, bugs, various metals -- they all probably mostly suck". - FJM 4/6/8
by lemon20pie on Apr 13, 2008 1:08 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I'm usually optimistic
but walking a 35-year old rookie catcher is not the smartest thing.
by zevkalman on Apr 13, 2008 1:08 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Coste has 340 major league AB.
He's not a rookie.
But he is 35.
"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx
by Al on Apr 13, 2008 1:09 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Especially one
who went to the Tony Fernandez School of Batting Stances.
by grifdog on Apr 13, 2008 1:10 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
bruntlet
is playing bad we could force a DP here
by BelieveinBlue2314 on Apr 13, 2008 1:09 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Marquis would have to find the zone first.
by cwyers on Apr 13, 2008 1:10 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
30 pitches
15 strikes/15 balls
"When you have a fat friend there are no see-saws, only catapults." --Demetri Martin
by Reddevil on Apr 13, 2008 1:11 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
catcher
This is our defensive catcher?
by matthew23 on Apr 13, 2008 1:10 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Marquis over 30 pitches
Passed ball
" I want to point something out in the quickly-becoming-tiresome Old Media vs. Bloggers debate: most stuff sucks. All stuff. In all forms. Most books suck. Most movies suck. Most magazines suck. Most trees likely suck if you get to know them. Fish, bugs, various metals -- they all probably mostly suck". - FJM 4/6/8
by lemon20pie on Apr 13, 2008 1:11 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
god Marquis
he's had the count at 0-2 now its 3-2, good ord!
Finally!
by Chanman25 on Apr 13, 2008 1:11 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
THERIOT!!
and I usually NEVER bash you!
Finally!
by Chanman25 on Apr 13, 2008 1:12 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
nice play izturis
I mean theriot
" I want to point something out in the quickly-becoming-tiresome Old Media vs. Bloggers debate: most stuff sucks. All stuff. In all forms. Most books suck. Most movies suck. Most magazines suck. Most trees likely suck if you get to know them. Fish, bugs, various metals -- they all probably mostly suck". - FJM 4/6/8
by lemon20pie on Apr 13, 2008 1:12 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
LOUD PROFANITY
"When you have a fat friend there are no see-saws, only catapults." --Demetri Martin
by Reddevil on Apr 13, 2008 1:12 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Is cublike a word?
It should be.
" I want to point something out in the quickly-becoming-tiresome Old Media vs. Bloggers debate: most stuff sucks. All stuff. In all forms. Most books suck. Most movies suck. Most magazines suck. Most trees likely suck if you get to know them. Fish, bugs, various metals -- they all probably mostly suck". - FJM 4/6/8
by lemon20pie on Apr 13, 2008 1:12 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
oh boy
Good to see they're treating April as spring training
by matthew23 on Apr 13, 2008 1:13 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
theriot=minor league talent
Every player should be accorded the privilege of at least one season with the Chicago Cubs. That's baseball as it should be played - in God's own sunshine. And that's really living."
by DC Cubbie on Apr 13, 2008 1:13 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Ryan TheRiot < Neifi
At least Neifi was very good with the glove
by cubsnlinux on Apr 13, 2008 1:13 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
no
Neifi sucked both in the field and batting. I remember people using that excuse as well, but I remember him making errors in costly situations
Finally!
by Chanman25 on Apr 13, 2008 1:14 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
so you mean..TheRiot = Nefi..Way to go Hendry to replace one Neifi with another
by cubsnlinux on Apr 13, 2008 1:16 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Theriot still hasn't shown that he "sucks"
He had a great season last year until he had back problems. He has no track record of him being an awful player, unlike Neifi. I guarantee you if Lee was playing exactly the same as Theriot, there would be no uproar
Finally!
by Chanman25 on Apr 13, 2008 1:18 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm sorry
But this team is completely overmatched against good teams this year, for example we are 1-4, soon to be 1-5 against strong teams like philly and milwaukee this year, but everyone believes we are back to normal when we narrowly beat terrible teams like houston and pittsburgh. If we are serious about winning the world series this year we are still 2-3 players away from that.
by CubsBall2202 on Apr 13, 2008 1:13 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
We are definetely going to need a huge deadline deal this year if we want to compete.
No I'm not talking about the NL central, if we don't win it thats truly pathetic. Against top tier national league teams we look terrible. Arizona, philadelphia, the mets, padres, we are just overmatched against these teams
by CubsBall2202 on Apr 13, 2008 1:18 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Proof of this?
We haven't played any of the above but the Phillies yet. Don't go on last year's results. Geez! They've played ELEVEN games!
"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx
by Al on Apr 13, 2008 1:20 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
um
Detroit: 2-9
Boston: 6-6
Cleveland: 4-7
Seattle: 6-6
Colorado: 4-7
They must all have to be making a ton of deals too
Finally!
by Chanman25 on Apr 13, 2008 1:20 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
This is why I love wannabe-managers
In April.
There is no place like Nebraska - Go Huskers!
by sanantonecub on Apr 13, 2008 1:23 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
now if the Cubs are ten games under in July
then I'd be a little worried.
Finally!
by Chanman25 on Apr 13, 2008 1:24 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Agreed, but even then
It's still fixable, even if no big trade is made and everyone complains we're just bringing in worse players (see: 2007)
There is no place like Nebraska - Go Huskers!
by sanantonecub on Apr 13, 2008 1:25 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Coste
I played at Kishwaukee CC the year after Coste and even I never heard of him until this series and his book!
by Reed's Johnson on Apr 13, 2008 1:14 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
bunt
They shoulda scored on that one. a bit of a break.
by matthew23 on Apr 13, 2008 1:14 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
wow
thank god runner didn't go home, he could have tap danced in
by grifdog on Apr 13, 2008 1:14 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
all of your comments are bashing
have anything nice to stay?
Finally!
by Chanman25 on Apr 13, 2008 1:15 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
this series has been pretty ugly
i'm ok with the sweep at this point, i just want to get out of philly, pretty much how i felt when i lived there
by dogcatratcheese on Apr 13, 2008 1:14 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
U should know better by now
" I want to point something out in the quickly-becoming-tiresome Old Media vs. Bloggers debate: most stuff sucks. All stuff. In all forms. Most books suck. Most movies suck. Most magazines suck. Most trees likely suck if you get to know them. Fish, bugs, various metals -- they all probably mostly suck". - FJM 4/6/8
by lemon20pie on Apr 13, 2008 1:15 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Theriot
He really better get his act together soon. I really want him to do well but I'm starting to be pessimistic about him
Finally!
by Chanman25 on Apr 13, 2008 1:15 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
That was a prediction sure to go wrong
by Reed's Johnson on Apr 13, 2008 1:15 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Ugh
The Cubs game so far is exemplified by the lackadaisical run to cover home by Marquis
by rrmalik on Apr 13, 2008 1:15 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
well the brewers are getting beat up on at least
Every player should be accorded the privilege of at least one season with the Chicago Cubs. That's baseball as it should be played - in God's own sunshine. And that's really living."
by DC Cubbie on Apr 13, 2008 1:16 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
OT: Doesn't moyer look like Chris Cooper?
"When you have a fat friend there are no see-saws, only catapults." --Demetri Martin
by Reddevil on Apr 13, 2008 1:16 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
This game doesn't feel very good right now.
Even if they get out of this inning, Marquis has already thrown a ton of pitches.
"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx
by Al on Apr 13, 2008 1:17 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Even if Marquis suddenly becomes Cy Young..our offense is doing nothing
absolutely stinking
by cubsnlinux on Apr 13, 2008 1:18 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Not to mention he seems to think the pitches go outside the imaginary box.
"I tell you, Steve Blass, you pitch me inside, they never, never find that ball."
-Roberto Clemente
by cubbybear on Apr 13, 2008 1:18 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Looks like we'll be seeing Hill today
" I want to point something out in the quickly-becoming-tiresome Old Media vs. Bloggers debate: most stuff sucks. All stuff. In all forms. Most books suck. Most movies suck. Most magazines suck. Most trees likely suck if you get to know them. Fish, bugs, various metals -- they all probably mostly suck". - FJM 4/6/8
by lemon20pie on Apr 13, 2008 1:17 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
break
wow, that was escaping right there
by matthew23 on Apr 13, 2008 1:18 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
anybody have a pitch count for marquis?
by dogcatratcheese on Apr 13, 2008 1:18 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
21 Balls, too
"I tell you, Steve Blass, you pitch me inside, they never, never find that ball."
-Roberto Clemente
by cubbybear on Apr 13, 2008 1:19 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
BOOOOOOOOOO
MARQUIS JUST HAD TO GET OUT OF THE INNING WITHOUT GIVING UP A RUN!! WHAT A LOSER!!
Finally!
by Chanman25 on Apr 13, 2008 1:18 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Charlie Manuel, aka "Red Devil" in Japan
Charlie Manuel, Philly skipper, spent 6 years in Japanese league and known as "Red Devil"... That late 1976-81 and I slighty remember how he played...
He's got HBP in his chin and played with football face mask like this....
Too sleepy and I will watch next Dome at bat in my dream...
by dragonsfanatic on Apr 13, 2008 1:19 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
That cartoon is hilarious!
You're forgiven for being sleepy. What time is it there, 4:20 am?
"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx
by Al on Apr 13, 2008 1:20 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Question
is Marquis's velocity down as well?
"Chicago baseball fans, who are composites of scar tissue and mortifying memories..." - George F. Will
by eswan9 on Apr 13, 2008 1:20 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Since when was it ever up
" I want to point something out in the quickly-becoming-tiresome Old Media vs. Bloggers debate: most stuff sucks. All stuff. In all forms. Most books suck. Most movies suck. Most magazines suck. Most trees likely suck if you get to know them. Fish, bugs, various metals -- they all probably mostly suck". - FJM 4/6/8
by lemon20pie on Apr 13, 2008 1:20 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
havent seen him hit 90
"Hey Chicago what do you say the Cubs are gonna win today"
by fischisgod on Apr 13, 2008 1:20 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
FB Between
85 & 88...
"When you have a fat friend there are no see-saws, only catapults." --Demetri Martin
by Reddevil on Apr 13, 2008 1:21 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Moyer hasn't
topped 80
"When you have a fat friend there are no see-saws, only catapults." --Demetri Martin
by Reddevil on Apr 13, 2008 1:21 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
need to score....
getting frustrating
"Hey Chicago what do you say the Cubs are gonna win today"
by fischisgod on Apr 13, 2008 1:20 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
was it ever good???
cant believe he has been with us for four years now!!!!
There we go Hank!
"Hey Chicago what do you say the Cubs are gonna win today"
by fischisgod on Apr 13, 2008 1:22 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
if this game turns bad quick
i think im gonna watch the masters
by BelieveinBlue2314 on Apr 13, 2008 1:21 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I'm not Gerald Perry or anything
But maybe the Cubs should approach each ab and go the other way with it instead of trying to pull every GD pitch
" I want to point something out in the quickly-becoming-tiresome Old Media vs. Bloggers debate: most stuff sucks. All stuff. In all forms. Most books suck. Most movies suck. Most magazines suck. Most trees likely suck if you get to know them. Fish, bugs, various metals -- they all probably mostly suck". - FJM 4/6/8
by lemon20pie on Apr 13, 2008 1:21 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Anyone hear Gerald Perry speak at the Convention?
I hope to god he just didnt want to reveal anything cause he didnt sound smart for being in the MLB at all.
by AndHart120 on Apr 13, 2008 1:23 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I didn't like
Marquis last year and this year is no different.
by sue369 on Apr 13, 2008 1:21 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
72mph changeup
Ha
"I tell you, Steve Blass, you pitch me inside, they never, never find that ball."
-Roberto Clemente
by cubbybear on Apr 13, 2008 1:21 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
boo!! Blanco gets a hit!!
what a horrible plaer!
Finally!
by Chanman25 on Apr 13, 2008 1:22 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
BA above DLee
:P
"I tell you, Steve Blass, you pitch me inside, they never, never find that ball."
-Roberto Clemente
by cubbybear on Apr 13, 2008 1:23 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
good call Al
horrible hitters will get hits today
by BelieveinBlue2314 on Apr 13, 2008 1:22 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
OK, now Soriano gets to hit with someone on base.
Can he do it?
"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx
by Al on Apr 13, 2008 1:23 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Failure To Execute...
Jacque Jones is gone, and I doubt Ivan DeJesus would mind this!
by initram on Apr 13, 2008 1:23 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
bunts
Cubs pitchers are not good bunters.
by matthew23 on Apr 13, 2008 1:23 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
great AB marquis
"Hey Chicago what do you say the Cubs are gonna win today"
by fischisgod on Apr 13, 2008 1:23 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
meh these announcers love to bash the Cubs
almost as bad as Buck
Finally!
by Chanman25 on Apr 13, 2008 1:23 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
guilt
any one feel guilty raising their kids cubs fans? i have a new born and i am afraid this may constitutehours of therapy when he is older
by Reed's Johnson on Apr 13, 2008 1:23 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Yeah. I feel guilty.
On the other hand, it gives them a kind of "existential angst", and a more philosophical outlook on life that it is full of disappointments :-)
by zevkalman on Apr 13, 2008 1:25 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
This team is so frustrating
Can't even lay down a sac bunt,.....routinely that shiat happens with this friggen team
" I want to point something out in the quickly-becoming-tiresome Old Media vs. Bloggers debate: most stuff sucks. All stuff. In all forms. Most books suck. Most movies suck. Most magazines suck. Most trees likely suck if you get to know them. Fish, bugs, various metals -- they all probably mostly suck". - FJM 4/6/8
by lemon20pie on Apr 13, 2008 1:23 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
that was comical....when things are going bad, that happens.
Felix Pie must play everyday!
by JB 23 on Apr 13, 2008 1:24 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
And Marquis wonders...
Why he gets left off playoff rosters.
"The one that invent the light tried 2,000 times and finally he did it, we have light...I don't want to spend 2,000 times to win Opening Day" Carlos Zambrano
by CubsBullsBears on Apr 13, 2008 1:24 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Cummon Fonso
"I tell you, Steve Blass, you pitch me inside, they never, never find that ball."
-Roberto Clemente
by cubbybear on Apr 13, 2008 1:24 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
We Need a 450 footer...
...fair, of course.
Jacque Jones is gone, and I doubt Ivan DeJesus would mind this!
by initram on Apr 13, 2008 1:24 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
BOO SORIANO!!
He should have hit a double!! what a crappy excuse for a player!!
Finally!
by Chanman25 on Apr 13, 2008 1:25 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Game Is Tied...
... had Marquis executed.
Jacque Jones is gone, and I doubt Ivan DeJesus would mind this!
by initram on Apr 13, 2008 1:25 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I don't think Blanco is a fair bet...
...to score from second on a single.
by cwyers on Apr 13, 2008 1:26 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
wanna bet?
nevermind.
"Confidence is what you have before you understand the problem." Woody Allen
by BlueSox on Apr 13, 2008 1:26 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
nice base hit
over the SS head
"Hey Chicago what do you say the Cubs are gonna win today"
by fischisgod on Apr 13, 2008 1:25 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
still is a awful swing from soriano
by Reed's Johnson on Apr 13, 2008 1:25 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Nice audio
Sounds like they are on an airplane.
by okiecubbie on Apr 13, 2008 1:25 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Cubs
Obviously losing sucks. But its one thing to get beat, its another to play poor defense, fail to execute fundamentals, and just generally look like you haven't left spring training. This team is long on talent, but they as a group just don't do the little things right that lead you win consistently.
by matthew23 on Apr 13, 2008 1:25 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
What is the point of this post?
This game isn't even close to over. In fact, it's now tied.
"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx
by Al on Apr 13, 2008 1:26 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
not about this game
Not referring to this paricular game, but to the team in general.
by matthew23 on Apr 13, 2008 1:28 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Funny, we said the same thing
About last years team before they ran off some of the best months of cubs baseball we've seen.
There is no place like Nebraska - Go Huskers!
by sanantonecub on Apr 13, 2008 1:26 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
A rally in the third
Marvelous!
There is no place like Nebraska - Go Huskers!
by sanantonecub on Apr 13, 2008 1:26 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Johnson!!
TIE GAME!!!!
There is no place like Nebraska - Go Huskers!
by sanantonecub on Apr 13, 2008 1:26 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Nice...
Good send, I thought Q would hold him up for sure.
"The one that invent the light tried 2,000 times and finally he did it, we have light...I don't want to spend 2,000 times to win Opening Day" Carlos Zambrano
by CubsBullsBears on Apr 13, 2008 1:26 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
You can't throw out Hank White sir
Just the idea that he's running on you causes you to bobble it.
by grifdog on Apr 13, 2008 1:26 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
We're gonna win it all!!
"When you have a fat friend there are no see-saws, only catapults." --Demetri Martin
by Reddevil on Apr 13, 2008 1:26 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I likey
lets go D-Lee!!!!!!
"Hey Chicago what do you say the Cubs are gonna win today"
by fischisgod on Apr 13, 2008 1:27 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
GREAT send
love it. put pressure on the defense.
by billywan on Apr 13, 2008 1:27 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Use his power against him, DLee!!
"I tell you, Steve Blass, you pitch me inside, they never, never find that ball."
-Roberto Clemente
by cubbybear on Apr 13, 2008 1:27 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I think he would've been safe w/o the bobble
"The one that invent the light tried 2,000 times and finally he did it, we have light...I don't want to spend 2,000 times to win Opening Day" Carlos Zambrano
by CubsBullsBears on Apr 13, 2008 1:27 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
how cool would that be
if lee took him outright now
by BelieveinBlue2314 on Apr 13, 2008 1:27 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
if he got thrown out ud be calling him wendall kim
by Reed's Johnson on Apr 13, 2008 1:28 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I think this umps. zone has been a little too inconssitent for my taste
seems like Moyer is getting a lot of BS on the outside corner
"Hey Chicago what do you say the Cubs are gonna win today"
by fischisgod on Apr 13, 2008 1:29 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Because he's crafty
"The one that invent the light tried 2,000 times and finally he did it, we have light...I don't want to spend 2,000 times to win Opening Day" Carlos Zambrano
by CubsBullsBears on Apr 13, 2008 1:29 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
that marquis is not getting
"Hey Chicago what do you say the Cubs are gonna win today"
by fischisgod on Apr 13, 2008 1:29 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Might be time to get a new thread going
" I want to point something out in the quickly-becoming-tiresome Old Media vs. Bloggers debate: most stuff sucks. All stuff. In all forms. Most books suck. Most movies suck. Most magazines suck. Most trees likely suck if you get to know them. Fish, bugs, various metals -- they all probably mostly suck". - FJM 4/6/8
by lemon20pie on Apr 13, 2008 1:29 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
new thread will post in 30 minutes.
is it getting that slow? I can move it up.
"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx
by Al on Apr 13, 2008 1:30 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Still working fine for me
There is no place like Nebraska - Go Huskers!
by sanantonecub on Apr 13, 2008 1:30 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
C'Mon
"I tell you, Steve Blass, you pitch me inside, they never, never find that ball."
-Roberto Clemente
by cubbybear on Apr 13, 2008 1:30 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Gotta Ca$h More In Here...
Good AB so far for DLee
Jacque Jones is gone, and I doubt Ivan DeJesus would mind this!
by initram on Apr 13, 2008 1:30 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
yes
" I want to point something out in the quickly-becoming-tiresome Old Media vs. Bloggers debate: most stuff sucks. All stuff. In all forms. Most books suck. Most movies suck. Most magazines suck. Most trees likely suck if you get to know them. Fish, bugs, various metals -- they all probably mostly suck". - FJM 4/6/8
by lemon20pie on Apr 13, 2008 1:30 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
wtg Lee
" I want to point something out in the quickly-becoming-tiresome Old Media vs. Bloggers debate: most stuff sucks. All stuff. In all forms. Most books suck. Most movies suck. Most magazines suck. Most trees likely suck if you get to know them. Fish, bugs, various metals -- they all probably mostly suck". - FJM 4/6/8
by lemon20pie on Apr 13, 2008 1:31 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
It's only the third inning.
Can't move it up too much, or the overflow will get too busy.
"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx
by Al on Apr 13, 2008 1:31 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
CUBS LEAD!!!!
There is no place like Nebraska - Go Huskers!
by sanantonecub on Apr 13, 2008 1:30 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Wooo!
Alright DLEE
"The one that invent the light tried 2,000 times and finally he did it, we have light...I don't want to spend 2,000 times to win Opening Day" Carlos Zambrano
by CubsBullsBears on Apr 13, 2008 1:30 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Spoken like a true cubs fan, in mid-April
"I tell you, Steve Blass, you pitch me inside, they never, never find that ball."
-Roberto Clemente
by cubbybear on Apr 13, 2008 1:31 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
all right!
D-Lee!!
"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx
by Al on Apr 13, 2008 1:31 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
There we go D Lee!!!!
nice lead
"Hey Chicago what do you say the Cubs are gonna win today"
by fischisgod on Apr 13, 2008 1:31 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
wow, i really love d-lee, i don't think
anything makes me happier than a huge clutch D-Lee double
by dogcatratcheese on Apr 13, 2008 1:31 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Sustained Applause
The BBC would like to apologize for the next announcement. -- Monty Python
by AcroEmelie on Apr 13, 2008 1:31 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
C'mon DLee
A double isn't good enough! I demand you hit a home run!
"Confidence is what you have before you understand the problem." Woody Allen
by BlueSox on Apr 13, 2008 1:31 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Lee could not have hit that any harder?
seriously, what a lously player..
Finally!
by Chanman25 on Apr 13, 2008 1:31 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Winning is funner!
"When you have a fat friend there are no see-saws, only catapults." --Demetri Martin
by Reddevil on Apr 13, 2008 1:32 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Get That Runner In...
...A-Ram!
Brewers tied it in NY... 6-6.
Jacque Jones is gone, and I doubt Ivan DeJesus would mind this!
by initram on Apr 13, 2008 1:32 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Chip Caray is being rather
complimentary
"Hey Chicago what do you say the Cubs are gonna win today"
by fischisgod on Apr 13, 2008 1:32 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
first lead we've had
since fri. night...
"I lost it in the sun"
by Bump Bailey on Apr 13, 2008 1:32 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I love it when the Philly crowd goes all quiet
The BBC would like to apologize for the next announcement. -- Monty Python
by AcroEmelie on Apr 13, 2008 1:32 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
yes
"I tell you, Steve Blass, you pitch me inside, they never, never find that ball."
-Roberto Clemente
by cubbybear on Apr 13, 2008 1:32 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I dont mind losing, we are gonna lose at least 60 games... it is the way we lose games that is so frustraing
by Reed's Johnson on Apr 13, 2008 1:33 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I would like you to know
you have been flagged as a troll for your insipid, pointless, irrelevant comments.
"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07
by gary varsho on Apr 13, 2008 1:34 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Flagging is enough
That post just put you on his level, though.
There is no place like Nebraska - Go Huskers!
by sanantonecub on Apr 13, 2008 1:35 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Arrrggghh.
Sadly true.
"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07
by gary varsho on Apr 13, 2008 1:35 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think his name also shows that too
Finally!
by Chanman25 on Apr 13, 2008 1:35 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
How should we lose games?
Is it better to lose lots of close games or just to get blown out? Both have the same result, so who cares how it happens?
There is no place like Nebraska - Go Huskers!
by sanantonecub on Apr 13, 2008 1:34 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Generally speaking...
...it's better to lose close than it is to lose big, at least if you're trying to predict future performance.
by cwyers on Apr 13, 2008 1:36 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
How so?
Sure, losing close means you were in the game, but when you lose big it also makes managers mad and make the team know he won't put up with it anymore.
I don't think there's a better way to lose.
There is no place like Nebraska - Go Huskers!
by sanantonecub on Apr 13, 2008 1:37 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
why are we talking about losing? In April, when were winning a game?
Felix Pie must play everyday!
by JB 23 on Apr 13, 2008 1:37 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
moyer
is pitching so slow that fuku is almost out of the box when the pitch crosses the plate
by matthew23 on Apr 13, 2008 1:33 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
how did the brewers tie it up? that sucks
by dogcatratcheese on Apr 13, 2008 1:33 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Is Prince Fielder still homerless this year?
by CubsBall2202 on Apr 13, 2008 1:34 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I Think Braun Doubled Home...
... two runs.
Jacque Jones is gone, and I doubt Ivan DeJesus would mind this!
by initram on Apr 13, 2008 1:34 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
yeah, i don't even know why i asked, it's always Braun
by dogcatratcheese on Apr 13, 2008 1:36 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Damn Lloyd Braun.
"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07
by gary varsho on Apr 13, 2008 1:36 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
He Actually Singled...
... and took second I guess on a play at the plate.
Jacque Jones is gone, and I doubt Ivan DeJesus would mind this!
by initram on Apr 13, 2008 1:36 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Ollie Perez
did not bring his a-game today.
"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07
by gary varsho on Apr 13, 2008 1:35 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Does Moyer even have a pitch limit?
by Reed's Johnson on Apr 13, 2008 1:34 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
About 2x his age...
So around 90 pitches
"The one that invent the light tried 2,000 times and finally he did it, we have light...I don't want to spend 2,000 times to win Opening Day" Carlos Zambrano
by CubsBullsBears on Apr 13, 2008 1:36 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Next year they might let him pitch 92
"I tell you, Steve Blass, you pitch me inside, they never, never find that ball."
-Roberto Clemente
by cubbybear on Apr 13, 2008 1:37 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
He's basically throwing accurate batting practice pitches
67mph curveball
"I tell you, Steve Blass, you pitch me inside, they never, never find that ball."
-Roberto Clemente
by cubbybear on Apr 13, 2008 1:36 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
He's been throwing that slop for years.
Amazing that anyone still swings at it.
"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx
by Al on Apr 13, 2008 1:38 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Charlie Hough
approves of this method.
"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07
by gary varsho on Apr 13, 2008 1:39 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
marquis has thrown less than moyer?
by BelieveinBlue2314 on Apr 13, 2008 1:35 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Nice half inning
"When you have a fat friend there are no see-saws, only catapults." --Demetri Martin
by Reddevil on Apr 13, 2008 1:35 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
like to see Marquis go 1,2,3 here....
Felix Pie must play everyday!
by JB 23 on Apr 13, 2008 1:35 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
There's One...
Jacque Jones is gone, and I doubt Ivan DeJesus would mind this!
by initram on Apr 13, 2008 1:38 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Under 10 Pitches?
Jacque Jones is gone, and I doubt Ivan DeJesus would mind this!
by initram on Apr 13, 2008 1:40 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Howard can move
for a big man...
"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07
by gary varsho on Apr 13, 2008 1:39 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I wonder if Philly fans...
Tear into him like some of us do Aramis.
"The one that invent the light tried 2,000 times and finally he did it, we have light...I don't want to spend 2,000 times to win Opening Day" Carlos Zambrano
by CubsBullsBears on Apr 13, 2008 1:40 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'd say yes,
after all, these are the people who boo'ed Santa Claus.
"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07
by gary varsho on Apr 13, 2008 1:42 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
need at least 6 from Jason today
innings that is, not earned runs
Every player should be accorded the privilege of at least one season with the Chicago Cubs. That's baseball as it should be played - in God's own sunshine. And that's really living."
by DC Cubbie on Apr 13, 2008 1:39 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
johsnon is a pretty good CF
very underrated in the field
Finally!
by Chanman25 on Apr 13, 2008 1:40 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
That Was a Nice Running Play...
... too bad he can't play everyday.
Jacque Jones is gone, and I doubt Ivan DeJesus would mind this!
by initram on Apr 13, 2008 1:41 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
nice running catch reed
through the big hitters
by grifdog on Apr 13, 2008 1:40 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
2 down
"I tell you, Steve Blass, you pitch me inside, they never, never find that ball."
-Roberto Clemente
by cubbybear on Apr 13, 2008 1:40 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
with a hold from wuertz and marmol
with kerry saving it
"Hey Chicago what do you say the Cubs are gonna win today"
by fischisgod on Apr 13, 2008 1:40 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
there we go marquis
a quick effective inning, omg it CAN be done!
by grifdog on Apr 13, 2008 1:40 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
reed
I vote Reed stays in the lineup permanently
by matthew23 on Apr 13, 2008 1:41 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
He's Not An Everyday Player...
...he's a great platoon player, though.
Jacque Jones is gone, and I doubt Ivan DeJesus would mind this!
by initram on Apr 13, 2008 1:42 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Pie
He's been much more effective than Pie so far.
by matthew23 on Apr 13, 2008 1:43 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I don't know if that should be our standard of greatness here.
by cwyers on Apr 13, 2008 1:44 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
not to mention Pie hasnt started in nearly a week....
Felix Pie must play everyday!
by JB 23 on Apr 13, 2008 1:45 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Especially in ...
A.P.R.I.L.
Sheesh.
"Confidence is what you have before you understand the problem." Woody Allen
by BlueSox on Apr 13, 2008 1:46 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
how a board can change in 30 minutes..
Finally!
by Chanman25 on Apr 13, 2008 1:41 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
You should of seen last year
Sue had to start up alternate game threads for those who didn't want to listen to b*tching from those who don't know anything.
There is no place like Nebraska - Go Huskers!
by sanantonecub on Apr 13, 2008 1:43 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
yeah I was here for that
I'm a whole lot different than last year. I was a HUGE basher last season..
Finally!
by Chanman25 on Apr 13, 2008 1:46 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
is it any suprise, they were playing really ugly ball
and now they're playing better, what's wrong with people reacting to bad play?
by dogcatratcheese on Apr 13, 2008 1:43 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
exactly
Completely agree. I refuse to blisfully be happy when they play poorly. Play hard, execute, and let the chips fall where they may.
by matthew23 on Apr 13, 2008 1:44 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
thank you, i personally get a little tired of the self righteous "positive people"
by dogcatratcheese on Apr 13, 2008 1:46 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
look I don't care if you are frustrated with this team
but tons of people come on here and have comments that only bash the team and have no thought behind them whatsoever.
Finally!
by Chanman25 on Apr 13, 2008 1:47 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Thought
Not directed to you personally, but it takes more intelligence to know which of our players are good/playing well and which ones are below average instead of just believing they are all all-stars like some 'fans.'
by matthew23 on Apr 13, 2008 1:50 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Who thinks
our players are all all-stars? I don't think there is anyone on here who thinks that. We all see thesame thing when we watch the games. I just don't see the need to bash players constantly and bitch about everything.
by sue369 on Apr 13, 2008 1:55 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
i agree, some people ONLY make negative comments, they are annoying,
but conversely some people ONLY make positive comments, and then say things about large swaths of posters about how they "don't know anything", personally both groups annoy me, i think it's fine to be upset by poor play, and great to be happy about good play
by dogcatratcheese on Apr 13, 2008 1:50 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
We are
not self righteous or all that positive but what good does it do to bitch about every damn thing? It does not change anything. It just gets old reading people's complaints all the damn time.
by sue369 on Apr 13, 2008 1:52 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
anyonne watching the masters?
"Hey Chicago what do you say the Cubs are gonna win today"
by fischisgod on Apr 13, 2008 1:41 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Tiger's Even through 4
"When you have a fat friend there are no see-saws, only catapults." --Demetri Martin
by Reddevil on Apr 13, 2008 1:42 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
hes on hole 2 for birdie right now
"Hey Chicago what do you say the Cubs are gonna win today"
by fischisgod on Apr 13, 2008 1:43 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
tiger makes par
5 behind
"Hey Chicago what do you say the Cubs are gonna win today"
by fischisgod on Apr 13, 2008 1:45 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
LMAO!
I dropped Arroyo from both my fantasy teams last night.
STOP UTLEY.........WIN THE GAME.
SOMEONE SHOOT THAT DAMN PARROT!!!
by Keystone80435 on Apr 13, 2008 1:44 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I'd rather play Fontenot
At least he has his good months...
"I tell you, Steve Blass, you pitch me inside, they never, never find that ball."
-Roberto Clemente
by cubbybear on Apr 13, 2008 1:47 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Izturis might even be better.
And Rammy seems to enjoy his "handi-work" more :-)
by zevkalman on Apr 13, 2008 1:48 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Look at Hank
2-2!!!!
"Hey Chicago what do you say the Cubs are gonna win today"
by fischisgod on Apr 13, 2008 1:45 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
See folks,
We're not the only ones who can come up short on defensive plays
There is no place like Nebraska - Go Huskers!
by sanantonecub on Apr 13, 2008 1:45 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Mendoza line watch!
Theriot is hitting .205 on the season.
by cwyers on Apr 13, 2008 1:46 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
What is all this "Masters" and "Tiger" talk?
Any game that has the announcers "whispering" is NOT a sport.
by zevkalman on Apr 13, 2008 1:47 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Loud, Sustained Applause
I always love how people claim golf is so great becuase of its individuality for the same reason they bash bowling.
There is no place like Nebraska - Go Huskers!
by sanantonecub on Apr 13, 2008 1:49 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Moyer is so old..
that..
he remembers the Alamo
he knew Ronald McDonald when he was in clown school
scientists claim he's the missing link
he lived at the Gettysburg address
his birthday expired
he has an autographed copy of the bible
when I told him to act his age, he dropped dead
he's in Jesus's yearbook!
rim shots welcome
he swam in the Dead Sea when it was still alive.
"I lost it in the sun"
by Bump Bailey on Apr 13, 2008 1:47 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
he was on the 1908 Cubs team
looked it up
Finally!
by Chanman25 on Apr 13, 2008 1:49 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
He's so old he played in the 1933 version of King Kong... Check it
"When you have a fat friend there are no see-saws, only catapults." --Demetri Martin
by Reddevil on Apr 13, 2008 1:50 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
That is perfect!
n/t
"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx
by Al on Apr 13, 2008 1:51 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I always thought...
that was him...lol..
"I lost it in the sun"
by Bump Bailey on Apr 13, 2008 1:52 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Moyer
Jamie Moyer is so old, he still refers to Philadelphia by its old name, "The Woods
"I lost it in the sun"
by Bump Bailey on Apr 13, 2008 1:54 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Sugar coating
No true Cubs fan has ever been accused of it so why start now? Call it as you see it!
by muffman on Apr 13, 2008 1:49 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Overflow thread posts in 10 minutes.
n/t
"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx
by Al on Apr 13, 2008 1:50 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
RUN, EVERYBODY!!!
Run as fast as you can!!!!!!!
There is no place like Nebraska - Go Huskers!
by sanantonecub on Apr 13, 2008 1:51 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
nice play mark
"Hey Chicago what do you say the Cubs are gonna win today"
by fischisgod on Apr 13, 2008 1:53 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
That Was Beautious
Jacque Jones is gone, and I doubt Ivan DeJesus would mind this!
by initram on Apr 13, 2008 1:55 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
A DIVE BY DEROSA!!!!!
Damn our defense sucks!
There is no place like Nebraska - Go Huskers!
by sanantonecub on Apr 13, 2008 1:53 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
defense
In fairness, we are third worst in errors in the NL at the moment.
by matthew23 on Apr 13, 2008 1:55 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
And once again,
It's April! We've played 10 games! The sample size is just way too small. It's like saying Clinton is going to run away with the election based on a poll conducted at a Clinton rally.
There is no place like Nebraska - Go Huskers!
by sanantonecub on Apr 13, 2008 1:56 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
sample size
Agreed on the smaple size, but people who have been critical of the defense to date have a point.
by matthew23 on Apr 13, 2008 1:57 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
After 11 games?
So what? 10 errors, compared to the league leading Nats who have only 4.
Would you like to trade standing places with them?
"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx
by Al on Apr 13, 2008 1:57 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Errors are a horrible way of evaluating defense.
And the season's still young - you need 100 balls in zone to have a good sampling of plays to make judgements on defense.
by cwyers on Apr 13, 2008 1:57 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
can he play short?
Every player should be accorded the privilege of at least one season with the Chicago Cubs. That's baseball as it should be played - in God's own sunshine. And that's really living."
by DC Cubbie on Apr 13, 2008 2:00 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Commentary
Did they just make a comment about this park and expecting low scoring games. I thought this park was known as a hitters park?
by okiecubbie on Apr 13, 2008 1:54 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Off-topic
The Spurs and Lakers tip off in the next hour or so at the Sprint Center, in a game that could send the winner to the fast-track for the 1-seed in the West. Go Spurs Go!
There is no place like Nebraska - Go Huskers!
by sanantonecub on Apr 13, 2008 1:55 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
What is this basketball talk
NBA basketball is about individuals like bowling and golf!
by LT on Apr 13, 2008 1:59 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
For the most part, you're right
But watch San Antonio play today. They are about as good at team-play as you can be.
There is no place like Nebraska - Go Huskers!
by sanantonecub on Apr 13, 2008 2:00 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Just picking at you
I like college basketball... If I was pulling for a team in the NBA it probably would be the Spurs.
by LT on Apr 13, 2008 2:01 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Soriano
He`s going to kill someone down the 3b line.
by muffman on Apr 13, 2008 1:56 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
pigs fly
Just checked out the league leaders and I about fell out of my chair when I say Kendall atop the NL in batting average....picture with a Cub hat.
by matthew23 on Apr 13, 2008 1:57 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
And once again...
It's April with a small sample size, with a guy who's played half his games in a dome! Calm down and step away from the ledge...
There is no place like Nebraska - Go Huskers!
by sanantonecub on Apr 13, 2008 1:57 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
All thanks to LASIK
"Chicago baseball fans, who are composites of scar tissue and mortifying memories..." - George F. Will
by eswan9 on Apr 13, 2008 1:58 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
If it's that way in month,
well, I still won't fall out of my chair, because Kendall was a really good hitter for a long time before he became a pretty poor one.
"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07
by gary varsho on Apr 13, 2008 1:59 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
With Two On...
...Kendall did not come through (flies out to CF).
Still 6-6 in the 5th.
Jacque Jones is gone, and I doubt Ivan DeJesus would mind this!
by initram on Apr 13, 2008 2:02 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Gametrack makes it look like
Fonso could've taken most of those strikes.
Glad to see him running hard, though.
"I tell you, Steve Blass, you pitch me inside, they never, never find that ball."
-Roberto Clemente
by cubbybear on Apr 13, 2008 1:59 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Johnson
seems to fit right in with the other impatient cub hitters.
"When you have a fat friend there are no see-saws, only catapults." --Demetri Martin
by Reddevil on Apr 13, 2008 2:00 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
ump didnt have the angle/view of howards foot
of course that doesnt matter...
Felix Pie must play everyday!
by JB 23 on Apr 13, 2008 2:00 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
OMG, an error not by the Cubs
I thought that was IMPOSSIBLE!
There is no place like Nebraska - Go Huskers!
by sanantonecub on Apr 13, 2008 2:01 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Let's Go Dome!!
How about one of those upper cut swinging homers here?
Jacque Jones is gone, and I doubt Ivan DeJesus would mind this!
by initram on Apr 13, 2008 2:03 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
wow horrible decision by moyer
we'll take it of course
by grifdog on Apr 13, 2008 2:02 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Karma!
She's a bizzell
"When you have a fat friend there are no see-saws, only catapults." --Demetri Martin
by Reddevil on Apr 13, 2008 2:02 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
H+E1
"Hey Chicago what do you say the Cubs are gonna win today"
by fischisgod on Apr 13, 2008 2:02 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I love our lineup
Lee gets two bases, they walk Ramirez only to face Fukudome!
There is no place like Nebraska - Go Huskers!
by sanantonecub on Apr 13, 2008 2:03 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Bad decision
I wouldnt walk a scuffling A Ram to pitch to Fukudome
by californiachicagoan on Apr 13, 2008 2:04 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Fuk
ripped the shit out of that
"Hey Chicago what do you say the Cubs are gonna win today"
by fischisgod on Apr 13, 2008 2:04 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
DAMN!!!!
There is no place like Nebraska - Go Huskers!
by sanantonecub on Apr 13, 2008 2:04 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
bahghsdghas;gkja
geeeeeeeeeeeezzzzzzzzzz
by grifdog on Apr 13, 2008 2:04 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
damnit!!
another frickin flyout to the warning track
Finally!
by Chanman25 on Apr 13, 2008 2:04 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I think....
we lead the league in those..
"I lost it in the sun"
by Bump Bailey on Apr 13, 2008 2:06 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Is there anything in baseball more frustrating
than the warning track flyball?"
"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07
by gary varsho on Apr 13, 2008 2:05 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Not If...
...it's the opposition.
Jacque Jones is gone, and I doubt Ivan DeJesus would mind this!
by initram on Apr 13, 2008 2:05 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
True.
"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07
by gary varsho on Apr 13, 2008 2:06 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
spending an hour on this board
if the cubs are losing
Finally!
by Chanman25 on Apr 13, 2008 2:06 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Gary Matthews Jr pulling on back from over the wall?
"I tell you, Steve Blass, you pitch me inside, they never, never find that ball."
-Roberto Clemente
by cubbybear on Apr 13, 2008 2:06 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
It is now.
n/t
"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx
by Al on Apr 13, 2008 2:08 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
WORTH-LESS
SOMEONE SHOOT THAT DAMN PARROT!!!
by Keystone80435 on Apr 13, 2008 2:07 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
WERTH-LESS
SOMEONE SHOOT THAT DAMN PARROT!!!
by Keystone80435 on Apr 13, 2008 2:08 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
WURTH-LESS
Jacque Jones is gone, and I doubt Ivan DeJesus would mind this!
by initram on Apr 13, 2008 2:08 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Its Werth, I saw his jersey during the trot
SOMEONE SHOOT THAT DAMN PARROT!!!
by Keystone80435 on Apr 13, 2008 2:09 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Must stop Utley
SOMEONE SHOOT THAT DAMN PARROT!!!
by Keystone80435 on Apr 13, 2008 2:08 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
At least there was noone on.
"I tell you, Steve Blass, you pitch me inside, they never, never find that ball."
-Roberto Clemente
by cubbybear on Apr 13, 2008 2:08 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I don't complain as long as utley keeps half swinging
by cubsnlinux on Apr 13, 2008 2:08 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Utley is a Marquis killer. Stop Utley and ya win the game.
SOMEONE SHOOT THAT DAMN PARROT!!!
by Keystone80435 on Apr 13, 2008 2:10 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Careful Here...
Jacque Jones is gone, and I doubt Ivan DeJesus would mind this!
by initram on Apr 13, 2008 2:09 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
setting up the dp
SOMEONE SHOOT THAT DAMN PARROT!!!
by Keystone80435 on Apr 13, 2008 2:10 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
can we get
cash and a player to be named later out of him?
SOMEONE SHOOT THAT DAMN PARROT!!!
by Keystone80435 on Apr 13, 2008 2:11 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Or maybe some breakfast cereal?
"I tell you, Steve Blass, you pitch me inside, they never, never find that ball."
-Roberto Clemente
by cubbybear on Apr 13, 2008 2:12 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'd be happy with that
SOMEONE SHOOT THAT DAMN PARROT!!!
by Keystone80435 on Apr 13, 2008 2:12 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Don't forget folks
The overflow is up.
There is no place like Nebraska - Go Huskers!
by sanantonecub on Apr 13, 2008 2:12 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
what fun is the overflooow?
SOMEONE SHOOT THAT DAMN PARROT!!!
by Keystone80435 on Apr 13, 2008 2:13 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
