Bronson Arroyo Disease, and Open Thread: Cubs vs. Phillies, Sunday 4/13, 12:35 CT
by Al Yellon on Apr 13, 2008 8:00 AM CDT
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Last night, I braved the wilds of Chicago-area expressways and tollways to hie myself out to Naperville to have dinner with some friends.
After dropping off the sherpa (how on Earth do people live out there and drive to work downtown every day? It would drive me nuts), we had a nice evening out, my kids babysitting their three-year-old twins. And thus I missed most of the Cubs' 7-1 loss to the Phillies, only the second time all year they've been totally blown out of a game. Ominously, the other one, the second game of the season on April 2, was also started by Ted Lilly.
And that does concern me. A year ago, many of us were making the comparison between Lilly and Bronson Arroyo, who came to the NL Central in 2006 from the tougher AL East, and had a pretty good year. Lilly's 2007 season wasn't very different from Arroyo's 2006 (Arroyo 2006: 14-11, 3.29, ERA more than a run lower than 2005; Lilly 2007: 15-8, 3.83, ERA more than half a run lower than 2006). However, Arroyo regressed in 2007, going 9-15 with an ERA of 4.23, more in line with his career norms. Lilly has looked pretty bad in his first three starts, going 0-2 with a 9.95 ERA, and 19 hits and 3 HR allowed in 12.2 innings.
We might call this "Bronson Arroyo Disease", and if this is what's going to happen to Ted Lilly, the Cubs are going to have pitching trouble... unless Ryan Dempster continues his good early showing. Because if Dempster doesn't do that, that leaves the Cubs with, essentially, one solid starting pitcher (Carlos Zambrano). It is too early to panic. But it is not too early to be concerned.
I'm not even that worried about the offense, which has been pretty pathetic in this series. It'll get untracked; these hitters are too good not to. It's the pitching that worries me. Bad as the last two days have been, win today and it's still a successful road trip at 4-2.
Notes: Thanks to Jason, a sharp-eyed BCB reader in South Bend, for sending me this photo of what is presumably a Cubs billboard there:
If you're new to BCB this year, this will be the type of post you'll see when there's a day game after a night game, both home and road -- a recap combined with the (first) game thread. There will still be an overflow post, which (at least for the time being) will post an hour and a half after the scheduled game time. Now, onward (and Jason Marquis, please try to remember how you pitched in the first two months of 2007, and replicate that. Thank you).
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I'm sure you've had enough of the "Jamie-Moyer-is-older-than-dirt" comments (he is the oldest player in the majors at 45 and was drafted by the Cubs two months before his current teammate Kyle Kendrick was born), but he has been around long enough that Alfonso Soriano, despite having four HR off Moyer, is only hitting .205/.217/.500 against him (44 career AB). Reed Johnson, who will likely get the start again today vs. the lefty Moyer, is .333/.357/.556 facing him (9-for-27, 3 doubles, a HR). I'd also expect Henry Blanco to get a start today (3-for-9 vs. Moyer, and it's a day game after a night game, and Geovany Soto has started all but one game so far).
Both Geoff Jenkins (.313/.405/.531) and Pat Burrell (.357/.486/.536) pound the heck out of Jason Marquis. Advice: pitch around them. (Yeah, I know, master-of-the-obvious.) Jimmy Rollins is still out, and Shane Victorino was placed on the DL after straining a calf muscle last night, so the Phillies are a bit shorthanded today.
Today's game is available, in case you didn't know, nationally on TBS (TBS coverage will be blacked out in Chicago, where you'll see it on CSN). This is the first year TBS, under the terms of the new TV contract that had them doing the Division Series last year, will carry a non-exclusive Sunday afternoon game. Let's hope they do a better job than they did in the 2007 playoffs. For more see the MLB.com Mediacenter.
MLB.com Gameday (2007 version)
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I think we'll see Lieber
in the rotation before Mid-May. I'd personally like to see him in there now.
"The Cubs can't be stopped" -- Me
I think
Lieber is much more valuable in the role he's filling right now. A guy in the pen who can come in and slam the door when a starter gets hurt/shelled early in a start is indispensable. Leave Lieber where he's at. I say if we're filling rotation spot, bring up Gallagher and slot him in the rotation.
"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07
Agreed!
If Lieber were in the rotation, who else would have saved us in those two Pirates games? Lieber threw 3 innings Monday night and 4 and a third innings on Wednesday. If he were starting, we would only get him every fifth day.
"You don't frighten us, English pig dogs. Go and boil your bottoms, you sons of a silly person. I blow my nose at you, so-called "Arthur King," you and all your silly English K-nig-hts." - French Knight
But
if Lieber was in the rotation, we might have needed to be saved in the Pirates series. I'm a big Lieber fan and wanted him on the team and in the rotation before most this offseason. But right now there still isn't room for him in the rotation. Dempster is pitching great, Marquis as only had one start so it's too early to pull him, and it's way too early to pull Hill and Lilly.
Re:
it's way too early to pull Hill and Lilly.
I agree, but...Hill's already been pulled!
"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07
by gary varsho on Apr 13, 2008 10:30 AM CDT up reply actions
Not really
if he doesn't pitch today he will probably start Thursday, if he pitches today and doesn't totally suck he will pitch Friday. He pretty much is just getting his start pushed back 2 or 3 days to work on some stuff.
Yeah but
wouldn't you rather have that guy start 30 games for you as opposed to assuming your gonna need him because someone else is gonna get shelled?
"The Cubs can't be stopped" -- Me
by lilkimmer77 on Apr 13, 2008 10:11 AM CDT up reply actions
False dichotomy.
Lieber stays in the pen and Gallagher starts.
And someone is going to get shelled/hurt. And you are going to need him. It's not an if, it's when...and it's happened twice this week, anyway.
If the Cubs need a starter, bring up Gallagher, or let Marshall start a game or two. Lieber is comfortable in the role he's in now and is performing well. Leave him alone. Gallagher and Marshall can fill rotation holes, that's why they were stretched out.
"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07
by gary varsho on Apr 13, 2008 10:17 AM CDT up reply actions
Lieber
still wants to start I don't think he's comfortable in that role, he's just doing what he's told. Lieber is probably our second or third best starting pitcher right now, and he's not even in the rotation. I like Gallagher but from what I saw from last year and this spring I don't think he's ready yet. So if anyone is gonna go into the rotation it's gonna be Lieber at some point and then Marshall probably will get a chance over Gallagher to.
If Lieber doesn't like it,
he's got a helluva way of demonstrating his displeasure, by not allowing an earned run thus far. Leave him pissed off, then! He's pitching well in this role. Leave him there. Give Gallagher or Marshall a start.
"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07
by gary varsho on Apr 13, 2008 10:34 AM CDT up reply actions
But
isn't better to have him starting games, and pitching well the whole day. Instead of having to bring him in when a SP has gotten bombed or rare 15 inning games and hope he holds them? If Lieber was starting and pitching well the whole day we wouldn't be losing in the first place is what I mean.
That's a HUGE assumption.
Just because Lieber pitches well in one role doesn't mean he pitches well in another, plus he can't pitch every day, so, even given the truth of your assertion, you get one more quality start a week, and lose the possibility of coming back because you don't have the door slammer who can pick up middle-inning relief, and you exhaust your bullpen. If you have other options--Gallagher, Marshall, and Hart--there's no need to pull Lieber out of a role in which he's performing well and put him into one where is performance is wholly unpredictable.
"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07
by gary varsho on Apr 13, 2008 10:42 AM CDT up reply actions
Lieber
has pitched well in a starters role most of his career. He has to pitch in this horrible Phillys hitting park over the last few years that made numbers look much worse then he was. There's no reason to believe he can't step in the rotation and be a quality 3-4 starter right now. He started this whole spring and pitched great as well. Having Lieber in the pen like this over the last week has been a godsend to save the pen. But most of the time we aren't going to have starters go only 3 innings and were rarely going to have 15 inning games. So Lieber isn't going to pitch and really help the team this much over the course of the season. He's much more valuable starting and probably giving us a 4.20-4.40 type era out of the rotation IMO. I don't see Gallagher or Hart doing that right now. Marshall might but he has also dropped off the last two years around the 20 start mark so who knows.
If Gallagher and Hart
can't pitch to a mid-4 ERA, they shouldn't be around. Moving Lieber at this point would be a mistake. The bullpen is already leading the NL in innings pitched, which is not good. Imagine if Lieber hadn't been there to absorb 7 of those innings. It would've taken 2-3 pitchers to do that job. Lieber handled it himself. It's too valuable an asset to have in the pen, especially when you have other options.
"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07
by gary varsho on Apr 13, 2008 10:56 AM CDT up reply actions
Agreed....
Having Marshall and Lieber in the pen is a great thing, as they can either throw an inning or four....great options from the pen.....
by crazymountain on Apr 13, 2008 10:58 AM CDT up reply actions
Gallagher
is only 22 years old right now and hasn't had a fullseason in Triple A. To think he could step in and have a mid 4 era right now is a huge thing to ask from the guy with the way he has struggled against big league hitters last season and this spring. Just because he can't do it right now doesn't mean he won't in the future. So it's no reason not to have him around. I'm still not sure Hart is going to be a big league starter in his career. I think he will at least be a quality reliever, but who knows if he can start in the big leagues. Right now he has a 4 era out of the bullpen. So again having a mid 4 era as a SP seems unlikely right now.
I agree that Lieber saved us the last two days, but the point I'm trying to make is. We aren't going to have back to back 12 and 15 inning games, and were not going to have starting pitchers go 3-4 innings twice in a week very often. This week Lieber has been very valueable, but this week has been very rare. We might have maybe 1-2 weeks like this for the rest of the season. So when that happens, then what do we do with Lieber? He just comes in garbage time when were losing by 4-5 runs or winning by 6-7 runs? Because most of the time thats what the long relievers do. When the guy could potentially be your second to fourth best starter this season there's no reason not to start him.
IMO,
Lieber will not prove to be an appreciably better starter this season that either Lilly or Hill, but he will be a starting pitcher, probably by the ASB, at the latest.
"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07
by gary varsho on Apr 13, 2008 11:35 AM CDT up reply actions
cubs
looks like the same old cubs.put together a winning streak and then put together a losing streak.the even steven syndrome.
it's called baseball
lol
"The Cubs can't be stopped" -- Me
by lilkimmer77 on Apr 13, 2008 10:12 AM CDT up reply actions
Too true.
Baseball is almost as frustrating a game as golf.
"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07
by gary varsho on Apr 13, 2008 10:18 AM CDT up reply actions
I'm actually hoping to see
Lieber in there just to see how the Phil's fans react. Lots of fans around me on Friday night were asking about him. It also would've been nice for him to chat with our hitters a little bit about what the Phil's pitchers do, but then again knowing whats coming doesn't always mean you can hit it.
I've got nice seats along the third base side this afternoon. I'm expecting to see the bats come alive a little bit, and actually thinking this is a great time for Marquis to throw a nice 6 innings and get back to "first half form".
I listened to the Phil's pregame last night, they were raving about the Cubs young talent and of course about Derek Lee.
I'm taking the train today because the traffic and parking is as advertised. I'm expecting a W this afternoon.
Go Cubs!!
by philadelphiacub on Apr 13, 2008 10:02 AM CDT reply actions
I'd like to see
both Hart and Gallagher in the rotation. Whatever is wrong with Lilly and Hill shouldn't be worked on in their starts. Like Lilly himself says, you can't have four side sessions between starts.
Gallagher?
From right field :)
"The Cubs can't be stopped" -- Me
by lilkimmer77 on Apr 13, 2008 10:13 AM CDT up reply actions
I don't think Hart is quite ready to start.
He's got a good arm, but he's not a really ready to "pitch" if you know what I mean. I'd like to see Gallgher get a start or two, though.
"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07
by gary varsho on Apr 13, 2008 10:19 AM CDT up reply actions
Well, Hill and Lilly don't seem ready to pitch either!!
by crazymountain on Apr 13, 2008 10:25 AM CDT up reply actions
LOL! Very true.
But they've got experience to rely on. I don't want to toss Hart out there too soon.
"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07
by gary varsho on Apr 13, 2008 10:27 AM CDT up reply actions
Here you go.
It's complete through May 25; this is the Cubs' only appearance through that date.
Note that you will hear the lovely tones of Chip Caray announcing.
"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx
SWUNG ON AND BELTED.....(and the ball lands 10 feet in front of the warning track..)
Felix Pie must play everyday!
Soft-throwing lefty = disaster this millenium so far
Why is it that the right-handed dominated Cub lineup usually struggles against soft-throwing lefties? Yes, they see more righties throughout the year etc. etc. but I just don't get it. Jamie M will most likely nibble and throw his changes and the Cubs will flail. Hamels was a different story last night--he was unhittable. But even the lefties that have just ONE speed--slow--seem to baffle us. Let's hope I'm wrong today!!
"Fat, drunk, and stupid is no way to go through life, son." -- Dean Wormer
Hamels was amazing last night.
Let's hope the Cubs bring the big sticks today against Moyer.
"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07
by gary varsho on Apr 13, 2008 10:29 AM CDT up reply actions
Sounds good!
Perhaps the fundamentally-sound Fukudome will hit a few line drives into the seats. It's so easy to get one out of there.
"Fat, drunk, and stupid is no way to go through life, son." -- Dean Wormer
by kentmeister on Apr 13, 2008 10:32 AM CDT up reply actions
usually
except w/ the wind blowing in hard from left like later in the game last night. that was unusual.
"Fat, drunk, and stupid is no way to go through life, son." -- Dean Wormer
by kentmeister on Apr 13, 2008 10:33 AM CDT up reply actions
That wind was really wierd.
I haven't seen anything like that since that wacky Bears-49er's game.
"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07
by gary varsho on Apr 13, 2008 10:35 AM CDT up reply actions
Also,
Moyer should be easier to run on. I'd like to see the Cubs be aggressive on the basepaths.
"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07
by gary varsho on Apr 13, 2008 10:36 AM CDT up reply actions
Hamels is gonna win multiple Cy Youngs before he is done...
by crazymountain on Apr 13, 2008 10:55 AM CDT up reply actions
Likely.
His breaking stuff is tremendous when he's on.
"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07
by gary varsho on Apr 13, 2008 10:57 AM CDT up reply actions
His changeup...
Is devastating as well. It left our hitters looking pretty silly last night.
"The one that invent the light tried 2,000 times and finally he did it, we have light...I don't want to spend 2,000 times to win Opening Day" Carlos Zambrano
by CubsBullsBears on Apr 13, 2008 10:58 AM CDT up reply actions
Yep.
Even if Lilly had been on, the Cubs might have lost last night.
"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx
Not sure about multiple
There's a lot of better pitchers in the NL than Hamels. Plus he pitches in a hitters park which kind of inflates some of his numbers.
" I want to point something out in the quickly-becoming-tiresome Old Media vs. Bloggers debate: most stuff sucks. All stuff. In all forms. Most books suck. Most movies suck. Most magazines suck. Most trees likely suck if you get to know them. Fish, bugs, various metals -- they all probably mostly suck". - FJM 4/6/8
I can only think of three, maybe four:
Peavy, Webb, Santana and maybe Zambrano. Hamels is really good, and if he pitched in a home park like Peavy's, he'd be even more effective.
"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07
by gary varsho on Apr 13, 2008 11:01 AM CDT up reply actions
He is as good as Glavine was in the 90's
same kind of pitcher but Hamels has, in my opinion, better stuff than Glavine did
by crazymountain on Apr 13, 2008 11:03 AM CDT up reply actions
He's got a ways to go before
I'd give him that much credit, but he's got that type of talent, for sure.
"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07
by gary varsho on Apr 13, 2008 11:06 AM CDT up reply actions
others
I would take Oswalt over Hamels as well and I think Cain could be a very good pitcher for many years. Haren is up there too. Sheets as well if he could ever stay healthy.
There's enough competition where I could see Hamels never winning a CY
" I want to point something out in the quickly-becoming-tiresome Old Media vs. Bloggers debate: most stuff sucks. All stuff. In all forms. Most books suck. Most movies suck. Most magazines suck. Most trees likely suck if you get to know them. Fish, bugs, various metals -- they all probably mostly suck". - FJM 4/6/8
Oswalt?
You're crazy. Houston would make that deal right now, straight up. Cain is very good, as is Haren and Sheets, but none of them are as dominant as Hamels, IMO. Sheets, maybe, but he's prone to the bad inning and his arm is made of eggshells and wet toilet paper.
"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07
by gary varsho on Apr 13, 2008 11:10 AM CDT up reply actions
IN 8 seasons Oswalt's career ERA is 3.14
His worst season ERA wise was 3.49 and he's pitched over 200 innings in 6 of his 8 seasons. Not too shabby if you ask me and certainly doesn't make me crazy to think he's an elite pitcher who will contend for CY award.
Sure the Astros would take Hamels for Oswalt, mainly because Oswalt is 7 years older than Hamels.
" I want to point something out in the quickly-becoming-tiresome Old Media vs. Bloggers debate: most stuff sucks. All stuff. In all forms. Most books suck. Most movies suck. Most magazines suck. Most trees likely suck if you get to know them. Fish, bugs, various metals -- they all probably mostly suck". - FJM 4/6/8
Look at Oswalt's last two seasons.
He's a good pitcher, but he's not what he was, at all. Right now, he's not better than Hamels.
"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07
by gary varsho on Apr 13, 2008 11:17 AM CDT up reply actions
Last year
Oswalt had a 3.18 era in 212 IP and was 14-7 on a crappy team. Those are pretty ace like numbers to me. I know he has a 9 era right now, but like Lilly and Hill it's only been 3 starts.
This proves what about Hamels?
"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07
by gary varsho on Apr 13, 2008 11:23 AM CDT up reply actions
Oswalts last 2 seasons he put up ERA"s of
3..18 and 2.98 respectively. Both better than Hamels last 2 seasons.
Hamels is a good pitcher but I think you might be undervaluing Oswalt, just a bit.
" I want to point something out in the quickly-becoming-tiresome Old Media vs. Bloggers debate: most stuff sucks. All stuff. In all forms. Most books suck. Most movies suck. Most magazines suck. Most trees likely suck if you get to know them. Fish, bugs, various metals -- they all probably mostly suck". - FJM 4/6/8
I think Oswalt...
... may be on the way down. It's only three starts, but he has allowed 30 (!) hits in 16 IP, and 5 HR already.
"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx
Perhaps.
Also, I think he's an enormous asshat, so that might be tinting my perspective a bit.
"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07
by gary varsho on Apr 13, 2008 11:25 AM CDT up reply actions
Oswalt
is very very good. He's actually very underrated his numbers are either right there or better then most of the best NL pitchers year in and year out. Right now though Oswalt is struggling as bad as Ted Lilly. Dan Haren has had one ace like year so, with two middle of the rotation type seasons in his career. So I don't put him in the top pitchers in the NL right now.
It's gotta be Peavy, Santana, Webb, Oswalt, Zambrano, Sheets(when healthy) and Hamel. Matt Cain has great stuff, but he hasn't quite lived up to his potential yet.
Lets hope
the good Jason Marquis shows up today. I hope we see a ton of lightly hit ground balls and Marquis goes about 7 innings. Plus lets hope we can score at least 4-5 runs off Moyer today. The first two games of this series have sucked. But if we can win today it will still be a successful 4-2 road trip.
Marquis has to keep the ball down today.
You're exactly right. Need to see lots of ground balls today.
"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07
by gary varsho on Apr 13, 2008 10:44 AM CDT up reply actions
It would be nice...
to get Moyer out early. Let's hope he has a really bad day.....
by crazymountain on Apr 13, 2008 11:00 AM CDT up reply actions
Moyer throws
four pitches; a slow one, a slower one, a really slow one and a really really slow one. Our hitters do badly against the soft toss. Note the first inning home runs the other night and nothing but soft toss after that......I think, to get their timing right, we should send our lineup to the plate with a picnic lunch and a six-pack....
LOL
You're on too something! Tie their arms up and shoot 'em up with some black tar heroin.
Speaking of Heroin and athletes, well Heroin anyways, anyone see that Nascar driver who admitted he was driving in a race while under the influence of Heroin??? What's even more amazing is I think he finished 5th!!
" I want to point something out in the quickly-becoming-tiresome Old Media vs. Bloggers debate: most stuff sucks. All stuff. In all forms. Most books suck. Most movies suck. Most magazines suck. Most trees likely suck if you get to know them. Fish, bugs, various metals -- they all probably mostly suck". - FJM 4/6/8
Hits and Runs predictions
Cubs break out today:
CHC 11 H 6 R
PHI 8 H 4 R
" I want to point something out in the quickly-becoming-tiresome Old Media vs. Bloggers debate: most stuff sucks. All stuff. In all forms. Most books suck. Most movies suck. Most magazines suck. Most trees likely suck if you get to know them. Fish, bugs, various metals -- they all probably mostly suck". - FJM 4/6/8
and it's the first half of the season!
so he's got a chance :-)
"Strange women lying about in ponds distributing swords is no basis for a system of government!"
by kentmeister on Apr 13, 2008 10:55 AM CDT up reply actions
Living in PA and seeing lots of Burrell...
all you have to do is NOT throw it in that little spot where he can crush it. He WILL draw a walk, but he won't hit one hard that's not in a place through which his seemingly premeditated swing passes. I heard a teammate tease his about this once and my Phillie-fan friends are always lamenting his approach at the plate. Yet still he hit us (and the Mets too for some reason).
"Strange women lying about in ponds distributing swords is no basis for a system of government!"
Funny story.
Watching the game yesterday with me father-in-law. Burrell swings and misses a pitch, and my father in sort of chuckles and says "He had made up his mind to swing even before the pitcher had the sign." All part of the fun with Pat the Bat.
"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07
by gary varsho on Apr 13, 2008 11:02 AM CDT up reply actions
yep.
he'd be the greatest adult tee-ball player in history! Kruk also referenced him awhile back, saying you have to adjust and "use your hands" once in awhile
"Strange women lying about in ponds distributing swords is no basis for a system of government!"
by kentmeister on Apr 13, 2008 11:04 AM CDT up reply actions
Can you imagine how good
Burrell would be at 16-inch softball? He'd probably hit in the lake half the time.
"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07
by gary varsho on Apr 13, 2008 11:08 AM CDT up reply actions
Apparently,
with me father-in-law
I am also channeling the Lucky Charms leprechaun. Ye gods.
"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07
by gary varsho on Apr 13, 2008 11:07 AM CDT up reply actions
I was just thinking about that...
Do I want better picture or better anouncers
by GoCubbies34 on Apr 13, 2008 11:09 AM CDT up reply actions
Who's doing the game for TBS?
" I want to point something out in the quickly-becoming-tiresome Old Media vs. Bloggers debate: most stuff sucks. All stuff. In all forms. Most books suck. Most movies suck. Most magazines suck. Most trees likely suck if you get to know them. Fish, bugs, various metals -- they all probably mostly suck". - FJM 4/6/8
Chip Caray
is a poor man's Joe Buck. Do not want.
"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07
by gary varsho on Apr 13, 2008 11:14 AM CDT up reply actions
Potato, potahto
They're both hacks trading on the names of greater sires.
"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07
by gary varsho on Apr 13, 2008 11:27 AM CDT up reply actions
I can tolerate Martinez
but Chip on the other hand.
" I want to point something out in the quickly-becoming-tiresome Old Media vs. Bloggers debate: most stuff sucks. All stuff. In all forms. Most books suck. Most movies suck. Most magazines suck. Most trees likely suck if you get to know them. Fish, bugs, various metals -- they all probably mostly suck". - FJM 4/6/8
I dunno.
Chip isn't my favorite, but I've heard far worse.
"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx
Such as?
I think Chip is terrifically uninformed, overly dramatic and intrusive. He, McCarver, Buch, Morgan, Grace and Lyons are about equally bad. Perhaps only Vasgersigan is worse.
"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07
by gary varsho on Apr 13, 2008 11:29 AM CDT up reply actions
cough.. Joe Morgan...cough
I agree. I actually liked his enthusiasm and his HR calls. What really annoyed me is when sometimes the way he would talk to Stone and trying to be funny or cute and raise his voice an octave.
" I want to point something out in the quickly-becoming-tiresome Old Media vs. Bloggers debate: most stuff sucks. All stuff. In all forms. Most books suck. Most movies suck. Most magazines suck. Most trees likely suck if you get to know them. Fish, bugs, various metals -- they all probably mostly suck". - FJM 4/6/8
Mark Grace
THE WORST EVA!!!!!
I live in AZ and have to put up with him and he just flat out sucks.
" I want to point something out in the quickly-becoming-tiresome Old Media vs. Bloggers debate: most stuff sucks. All stuff. In all forms. Most books suck. Most movies suck. Most magazines suck. Most trees likely suck if you get to know them. Fish, bugs, various metals -- they all probably mostly suck". - FJM 4/6/8
Yeah.
Gracie is an atrocious announcer.
"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07
by gary varsho on Apr 13, 2008 11:32 AM CDT up reply actions
When Marquis
is on he can shut down even the best offenses, even in tough ballparks. Last July against the Phillies at Wrigley Marquis pitched a 6 IP, 3 ER and the Cubs won 7-3. Marquis even shut out the Rockies for 6.2 IP at Coors Field last year in August. The problem with Marquis is he's really inconsistent. About half his starts in a month he's pretty good and will either win or keep the team in the game. But in the other 2-3 starts that month he gets hit hard and needs a litle luck or great defense to come up with quality starts.
Lineups
Cubs
Soriano, LF
Johnson, CF
Lee, 1B
Ramirez, 3B
Fukudome, RF
DeRosa, 2B
Theriot, SS
Blanco, C
Marquis, P
Phils
Jenkins, RF
Werth, CF
Utley, 2B
Howard, 1B
Burrell, LF
Feliz, 3B
Coste, C
Bruntlett, SS
Moyer, P
I though Cedeno was supposed to play today.
Oh, well. Thanks for the lineups, Bruce.
"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07
by gary varsho on Apr 13, 2008 11:31 AM CDT up reply actions
I might bat Marquis 7th in that lineup.
n/t
"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx
Except
that you want Marquis batting ninth so there might be someone on base when Soriano comes up again.
It's the Ned Yost/Tony LaRussa thing. Piniella's adopting it here.
It's a girl! Born 1-18-08. 2246 PST. 8 lbs. 1 oz.
by Josh Timmers on Apr 13, 2008 11:55 AM CDT up reply actions
Pastadivindg Theriot is just begging
for a SWL photoshop...
"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07
by gary varsho on Apr 13, 2008 11:59 AM CDT up reply actions
I honestly can't come up with any pictures...
...of Theriot diving for baseballs. Perhaps it's an assignment for BCB's official photographer?
Here's one that's perfect
"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07
by gary varsho on Apr 13, 2008 12:03 PM CDT up reply actions
Thus my tagging it as "perfect"
"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07
I'll ask him to see if he can capture this.
But the one below is pretty good.
"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx
I love it.
The Pasta brothers:
Pasta Diving Theriot and Pasta Swinging Soriano.
"Confidence is what you have before you understand the problem." Woody Allen
Love the billboard picture.
I think that says it all. No need to elaborate. C'MON!!!
"Don't complain to me about the stormy weather, boys. Just bring the ship into port." --Steve Stone, September 2004
With Yosh retiring
Maybe Henry Blanco can help w/ the dirty uni's. From the off-season reports he appears to be have experience in laundering...
"Strange women lying about in ponds distributing swords is no basis for a system of government!"
It's almost 2AM here in Japan....
and your Cubs-Phillies game will be televised live on my satellite channel, starting at 2:30AM JST.... I don't know I can keep my eyes open before the game start...
Today (actually yesterday afternoon) I watched challenge match game between recent national champion HS from Okinawa vs their arch rival here, and witnessed a dramatic, huge grand slam - he, I and everybody there knew it's gone right after the impact.
You'll need that kind of long-ball power in upcoming game to snap losing streak, right? Hopely from Dome who's got last night off.
by dragonsfanatic on Apr 13, 2008 11:55 AM CDT reply actions
That'd be great!
Since you are getting satellite coverage you will probably be seeing the TBS feed. Let us know how you like Chip Caray.
"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx
I will record the game
on my HDD recorder in anyway, and let you know later how I feel on his pronunciation of "Fukudome" ;-)
by dragonsfanatic on Apr 13, 2008 12:04 PM CDT up reply actions
confirmed
the pronunciation was perfect.
by dragonsfanatic on Apr 13, 2008 12:38 PM CDT up reply actions
Thought it was interesting that.....
Jenkins was leading off until I read Al's memo regarding Jenkins pounding Marquis. Thanks for the info Al.
That's still a bit odd.
Jenkins and Werth 1-2. Weird. I guess there's at least one AB where Marquis can't pitch around Jenkins.
"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07
by gary varsho on Apr 13, 2008 12:01 PM CDT up reply actions
Phillies Vs. Marquis
Wow. Ignorance is bliss. I felt a lot better about today's game before looking at the phillies lineups splits against Marquis. Not one hitter has an average under .300 against Marquis.....gulp.
Jenkins .313 - 0 HR's
Werth 2-5 .400 - 0 HR's
Utley 6-13 .462 - 0 HR's
Howard 2-6 .333 0 HR's
Burrell 10-28 .357 - 1 HR
Feliz 4-10 .400 - 0 HR's
Coste 4-6 .667 - 0 HR's
Bruntlett 1-2 .500 - 0 HR's
Good news is he's only given up 1 HR to this lineup and ofcourse it's to Burrell the newest and mightiest of Cub killers.
" I want to point something out in the quickly-becoming-tiresome Old Media vs. Bloggers debate: most stuff sucks. All stuff. In all forms. Most books suck. Most movies suck. Most magazines suck. Most trees likely suck if you get to know them. Fish, bugs, various metals -- they all probably mostly suck". - FJM 4/6/8
Ye gods, man!
This could be an ugly day for our Cubs...
"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07
by gary varsho on Apr 13, 2008 12:01 PM CDT up reply actions
The good news....
is that if Marquis is on, he is a ground-ball pitcher, which might explain why he has only given up one home run to this lineup. However, a lot of those ground balls, apparently, have found holes in the infield.
"Don't complain to me about the stormy weather, boys. Just bring the ship into port." --Steve Stone, September 2004
7 XBH overall, so
it's not all sharp grounders. Jenkins has 3 triples against Marquis. That's weird. Never imagined Jenkins as a triples kinda guy.
"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07
by gary varsho on Apr 13, 2008 12:14 PM CDT up reply actions
Cubs Vs. Moyer
Soriano 9-44 .205 - 4 HR's
Johnson 9-27 .333 - 1 HR
Lee 2-3 - .667 0 HR
Ramirez 0-5
DOme 0-0
Derosa 3-10 .300 - 0 HR
Theriot 1-6 .167
Blanco 3-9 .333
" I want to point something out in the quickly-becoming-tiresome Old Media vs. Bloggers debate: most stuff sucks. All stuff. In all forms. Most books suck. Most movies suck. Most magazines suck. Most trees likely suck if you get to know them. Fish, bugs, various metals -- they all probably mostly suck". - FJM 4/6/8
Surprised to see with the exception of Soriano and Johnson
That the Cubs really haven't seen too much of Moyer. Theriot has more plate appearences than Ramirez is odd as well.
What isn't surprising is that this lineup has drawn only 3 walks and struck out 20 times.
" I want to point something out in the quickly-becoming-tiresome Old Media vs. Bloggers debate: most stuff sucks. All stuff. In all forms. Most books suck. Most movies suck. Most magazines suck. Most trees likely suck if you get to know them. Fish, bugs, various metals -- they all probably mostly suck". - FJM 4/6/8
Ronny Cedeno has hit...
....375/.375/.500 against Moyer in his career.
I don't think it means anything, myself, but I was suprised to see Lou not giving him a chance.
I don't feel too optimistic
about Marquis helping us avoid the sweep today. I think we will need to score a lot of runs to win. Our hitters are certainly due, as they haven't done much so far in Philly. It would be nice to put 9 or 10 on the board.
A Getaway Day Win ....
..... breaks a 2 game skid and prevents a sweep by the '07 NL East Champion Phils
.... gives us a decent 4-2 trip
.... improves the Cubs to 7-5 (preventing a fall back to .500 for the year and the trip)
.... and gives the team a nice boost before an off day tomorrow
So, sure, it's only game 12, but WINNING TODAY IS HUGE!
GO CUBS GO !!!!
If It Takes Forever ....
Nothing screams "Let's Play Baseball!"
Like a rousing replay of "Drumline." Yikes.
LET'S GO CUBS!
"You just don't know understand how frustrating this is"- Kevin Borseth
Why do I have a TV show called DEA on TBS???
" I want to point something out in the quickly-becoming-tiresome Old Media vs. Bloggers debate: most stuff sucks. All stuff. In all forms. Most books suck. Most movies suck. Most magazines suck. Most trees likely suck if you get to know them. Fish, bugs, various metals -- they all probably mostly suck". - FJM 4/6/8
Nevermind....woooo
False alarm. Technical difficulties with my remote.
" I want to point something out in the quickly-becoming-tiresome Old Media vs. Bloggers debate: most stuff sucks. All stuff. In all forms. Most books suck. Most movies suck. Most magazines suck. Most trees likely suck if you get to know them. Fish, bugs, various metals -- they all probably mostly suck". - FJM 4/6/8
Looks like another decent day in Philly
The Cubs have been very fortunate so far I think concerning the weather.
" I want to point something out in the quickly-becoming-tiresome Old Media vs. Bloggers debate: most stuff sucks. All stuff. In all forms. Most books suck. Most movies suck. Most magazines suck. Most trees likely suck if you get to know them. Fish, bugs, various metals -- they all probably mostly suck". - FJM 4/6/8
TBS
is anyone else outside of chicago blacked-out?
by BelieveinBlue2314 on Apr 13, 2008 12:39 PM CDT reply actions
Blacked out here
in Bloomington, IN.
"Strikeouts are boring! Besides that, they're fascist. Throw some ground balls - it's more democratic." -Bull Durham
me too
im in indy and i cant get it
by BelieveinBlue2314 on Apr 13, 2008 12:41 PM CDT up reply actions
MLB is run by idiots.
So you can't get CSN, and you can't get TBS.
Why do they want to prevent you from watching. S T U P I D !!!!!!!
"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx
Blacked Out
In the middle of Iowa. At least for me anyway. Dang it.
by tigerhawk61 on Apr 13, 2008 12:51 PM CDT up reply actions
Champaign-Urbana is blacked out on TBS
"Confidence is what you have before you understand the problem." Woody Allen
I have Dish
I don't know if the provider matters or not.
"Confidence is what you have before you understand the problem." Woody Allen
Woe...
Phillies Sunday unis... Not aesthetic.
"When you have a fat friend there are no see-saws, only catapults." --Demetri Martin
Good heavens.
What are those Philly uniforms?
"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx
haha
looks kind of like the old California Angels uni's.
No kidding...
I think Wally Joyner is playing 1B.
"When you have a fat friend there are no see-saws, only catapults." --Demetri Martin
With Devon White in CF?
"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07
by gary varsho on Apr 13, 2008 12:42 PM CDT up reply actions
Len says they are the '40's uniforms.
"Confidence is what you have before you understand the problem." Woody Allen
Here's the uniform.
1949 Phillies:
They're wearing red socks, though, not blue.
"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx
Since we're talking about uniforms...
...I was at Wal-Mart yesterday, and I saw one of those half-and-half jerseys - Cardinals-Angels.
I have no. earthly. idea.
Especially since it had Pujols' name and number on the back.
Cub hitters
Should crowd the plate a little more knowing Moyer is going to work almost exclusively on the outer half.
I'm hoping someone
will point out to Derrick that he really needs to swing at the outside pitch with 2 strikes -- even if it really isn't a strike.
"Confidence is what you have before you understand the problem." Woody Allen
Is it just me...
Or does Marquis look a little more...um... rotund?
"When you have a fat friend there are no see-saws, only catapults." --Demetri Martin
You might be on to something.
n/t
"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx
Keep throwing the ball down and in to Jenkins marquis
great idea.
" I want to point something out in the quickly-becoming-tiresome Old Media vs. Bloggers debate: most stuff sucks. All stuff. In all forms. Most books suck. Most movies suck. Most magazines suck. Most trees likely suck if you get to know them. Fish, bugs, various metals -- they all probably mostly suck". - FJM 4/6/8
HBP to Werth
" I want to point something out in the quickly-becoming-tiresome Old Media vs. Bloggers debate: most stuff sucks. All stuff. In all forms. Most books suck. Most movies suck. Most magazines suck. Most trees likely suck if you get to know them. Fish, bugs, various metals -- they all probably mostly suck". - FJM 4/6/8
When was the last game Lieber pitched???
" I want to point something out in the quickly-becoming-tiresome Old Media vs. Bloggers debate: most stuff sucks. All stuff. In all forms. Most books suck. Most movies suck. Most magazines suck. Most trees likely suck if you get to know them. Fish, bugs, various metals -- they all probably mostly suck". - FJM 4/6/8
Hill's already supposed to pitch in relief today...
...and go for several innings. So if Marquis can't get through the inning or can only go for 3-4 innings, I'd expect to see Hill come in.
Whoa
I never noticed those badass tat's on Blanco's forearms before.
walk Howard?
" I want to point something out in the quickly-becoming-tiresome Old Media vs. Bloggers debate: most stuff sucks. All stuff. In all forms. Most books suck. Most movies suck. Most magazines suck. Most trees likely suck if you get to know them. Fish, bugs, various metals -- they all probably mostly suck". - FJM 4/6/8
he's struggling with runners in scoring poistion
but looks like Marquis is pitching around him
Finally!
Haven't seen
Many runners thrown out so far this year.
"When you have a fat friend there are no see-saws, only catapults." --Demetri Martin
Cubs have thrown out four and allowed eight...
...steals before this game. So a .666 SB% against our guys in the early running. I can live with that.
That's an interesting question.
We have two players in the infield with good hands but limited range. Is there a disadvantage to that over having an equally talented shortstop overall that has worse hands but better range? I wonder...
Burrell is on deck
the only hitter in this lineup to hit a HR off him
" I want to point something out in the quickly-becoming-tiresome Old Media vs. Bloggers debate: most stuff sucks. All stuff. In all forms. Most books suck. Most movies suck. Most magazines suck. Most trees likely suck if you get to know them. Fish, bugs, various metals -- they all probably mostly suck". - FJM 4/6/8
Whew
" I want to point something out in the quickly-becoming-tiresome Old Media vs. Bloggers debate: most stuff sucks. All stuff. In all forms. Most books suck. Most movies suck. Most magazines suck. Most trees likely suck if you get to know them. Fish, bugs, various metals -- they all probably mostly suck". - FJM 4/6/8
just got that one off end of bat
" I want to point something out in the quickly-becoming-tiresome Old Media vs. Bloggers debate: most stuff sucks. All stuff. In all forms. Most books suck. Most movies suck. Most magazines suck. Most trees likely suck if you get to know them. Fish, bugs, various metals -- they all probably mostly suck". - FJM 4/6/8
Dear lord, i thought that was gone
off the bat, whew
by dogcatratcheese on Apr 13, 2008 12:55 PM CDT reply actions
that ball was crushed
Every player should be accorded the privilege of at least one season with the Chicago Cubs. That's baseball as it should be played - in God's own sunshine. And that's really living."
just off end of bat
might've cracked his bat.
" I want to point something out in the quickly-becoming-tiresome Old Media vs. Bloggers debate: most stuff sucks. All stuff. In all forms. Most books suck. Most movies suck. Most magazines suck. Most trees likely suck if you get to know them. Fish, bugs, various metals -- they all probably mostly suck". - FJM 4/6/8
Call me a nattering nabob of negativism
but this one doesn't feel good.
"When you have a fat friend there are no see-saws, only catapults." --Demetri Martin
ramirez, dome, derosa
we have to match
by BelieveinBlue2314 on Apr 13, 2008 12:58 PM CDT reply actions
You'd like to score some runs...
...before our T-ball hitters come up in the bottom of the order, that's for sure.
Watch.
Those'll be the guys who will hit.
I know, that makes no logical sense. But sometimes it happens that way.
"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx
yeah happens
i just bought wrigley season ticket Al.... good stuff, I really like it.
by BelieveinBlue2314 on Apr 13, 2008 1:01 PM CDT up reply actions
Sometimes, yep.
Baseball's a real streaky game, and even the worst major league players are still real talents, and so they're going to get hits sometimes.
But I wouldn't go betting on it.
Oh, no, I wouldn't.
Just sayin'.
"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx
agreed, A-ram crushed that
but a liner right to 3rd, where as that utley lazy grounder found a hold
by dogcatratcheese on Apr 13, 2008 1:00 PM CDT up reply actions
I love watching DOme hit
" I want to point something out in the quickly-becoming-tiresome Old Media vs. Bloggers debate: most stuff sucks. All stuff. In all forms. Most books suck. Most movies suck. Most magazines suck. Most trees likely suck if you get to know them. Fish, bugs, various metals -- they all probably mostly suck". - FJM 4/6/8
nice hustle
" I want to point something out in the quickly-becoming-tiresome Old Media vs. Bloggers debate: most stuff sucks. All stuff. In all forms. Most books suck. Most movies suck. Most magazines suck. Most trees likely suck if you get to know them. Fish, bugs, various metals -- they all probably mostly suck". - FJM 4/6/8
Nice speed Dome!
n/t
"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx
You better...
Outrun a 45 year old man.
"The one that invent the light tried 2,000 times and finally he did it, we have light...I don't want to spend 2,000 times to win Opening Day" Carlos Zambrano
by CubsBullsBears on Apr 13, 2008 1:01 PM CDT up reply actions
i like to see that kind of hit
but he's been hitting a lot of weak grounders in the past few games.
by dogcatratcheese on Apr 13, 2008 1:02 PM CDT reply actions
blew an 80 MPH fastball by him
" I want to point something out in the quickly-becoming-tiresome Old Media vs. Bloggers debate: most stuff sucks. All stuff. In all forms. Most books suck. Most movies suck. Most magazines suck. Most trees likely suck if you get to know them. Fish, bugs, various metals -- they all probably mostly suck". - FJM 4/6/8
he's getting on my nerves as well
" I want to point something out in the quickly-becoming-tiresome Old Media vs. Bloggers debate: most stuff sucks. All stuff. In all forms. Most books suck. Most movies suck. Most magazines suck. Most trees likely suck if you get to know them. Fish, bugs, various metals -- they all probably mostly suck". - FJM 4/6/8
surprised he stayed out of the DP
Every player should be accorded the privilege of at least one season with the Chicago Cubs. That's baseball as it should be played - in God's own sunshine. And that's really living."
Ummm Ryan....
There were 2 outs there btw...
"The one that invent the light tried 2,000 times and finally he did it, we have light...I don't want to spend 2,000 times to win Opening Day" Carlos Zambrano
what the...
Theriot trying a sac bunt with 2 outs = classic
Nefi-esque
"The one that invent the light tried 2,000 times and finally he did it, we have light...I don't want to spend 2,000 times to win Opening Day" Carlos Zambrano
by CubsBullsBears on Apr 13, 2008 1:04 PM CDT up reply actions
He was probably trying to bunt for a hit.
That said, you don't get much success doing that bunting it straight at the pitcher, and I think I recall Moyer's a pretty good fielder for his position.
k's
Is putting the ball on a tee any different than having Moyer pitch? How does he fan anyone?
i know its early
but Theriot doesnt look like the same player as last year...if he plays like this for a month...what options do we have
As far as players on the 40 man...
* Ronny Cedeno
* DeRosa at short, put Fontenot or Patterson at second
* Play Pie and Johnson and use a short center fielder
i agree
i like stats, but i also believe in things like chemistry and scrappy play, but i just don't see theriot having the same influence he did as last year, or at least the beginning of last year. he's starting to upset me.
by dogcatratcheese on Apr 13, 2008 1:07 PM CDT up reply actions
ill tell you what option we have
CEDENO!!! i like him he isnt bad by any means
by BelieveinBlue2314 on Apr 13, 2008 1:06 PM CDT reply actions
Well, yes he is.
He has talent, but doesn't appear to have baseball smarts. If he had some, he could be a really good player.
I won't hold my breath waiting.
"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx
I don't know if I'd say Cedeno could be REALLY good.
I think he has the potential to be mediocre or maybe a shade better. Ideally he's a bench player - can hit a bit for his position and makes a nice defense sub-in in the infield.
But I don't know if we have any better options at this point.
Only 2nd inning and already I need a drink
" I want to point something out in the quickly-becoming-tiresome Old Media vs. Bloggers debate: most stuff sucks. All stuff. In all forms. Most books suck. Most movies suck. Most magazines suck. Most trees likely suck if you get to know them. Fish, bugs, various metals -- they all probably mostly suck". - FJM 4/6/8
Coste has 340 major league AB.
He's not a rookie.
But he is 35.
"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx
Especially one
who went to the Tony Fernandez School of Batting Stances.
bruntlet
is playing bad we could force a DP here
by BelieveinBlue2314 on Apr 13, 2008 1:09 PM CDT reply actions
30 pitches
15 strikes/15 balls
"When you have a fat friend there are no see-saws, only catapults." --Demetri Martin
Marquis over 30 pitches
Passed ball
" I want to point something out in the quickly-becoming-tiresome Old Media vs. Bloggers debate: most stuff sucks. All stuff. In all forms. Most books suck. Most movies suck. Most magazines suck. Most trees likely suck if you get to know them. Fish, bugs, various metals -- they all probably mostly suck". - FJM 4/6/8
nice play izturis
I mean theriot
" I want to point something out in the quickly-becoming-tiresome Old Media vs. Bloggers debate: most stuff sucks. All stuff. In all forms. Most books suck. Most movies suck. Most magazines suck. Most trees likely suck if you get to know them. Fish, bugs, various metals -- they all probably mostly suck". - FJM 4/6/8
Is cublike a word?
It should be.
" I want to point something out in the quickly-becoming-tiresome Old Media vs. Bloggers debate: most stuff sucks. All stuff. In all forms. Most books suck. Most movies suck. Most magazines suck. Most trees likely suck if you get to know them. Fish, bugs, various metals -- they all probably mostly suck". - FJM 4/6/8
oh boy
Good to see they're treating April as spring training
theriot=minor league talent
Every player should be accorded the privilege of at least one season with the Chicago Cubs. That's baseball as it should be played - in God's own sunshine. And that's really living."
Ryan TheRiot < Neifi
At least Neifi was very good with the glove
no
Neifi sucked both in the field and batting. I remember people using that excuse as well, but I remember him making errors in costly situations
Finally!
Theriot still hasn't shown that he "sucks"
He had a great season last year until he had back problems. He has no track record of him being an awful player, unlike Neifi. I guarantee you if Lee was playing exactly the same as Theriot, there would be no uproar
Finally!
I'm sorry
But this team is completely overmatched against good teams this year, for example we are 1-4, soon to be 1-5 against strong teams like philly and milwaukee this year, but everyone believes we are back to normal when we narrowly beat terrible teams like houston and pittsburgh. If we are serious about winning the world series this year we are still 2-3 players away from that.
We are definetely going to need a huge deadline deal this year if we want to compete.
No I'm not talking about the NL central, if we don't win it thats truly pathetic. Against top tier national league teams we look terrible. Arizona, philadelphia, the mets, padres, we are just overmatched against these teams
by CubsBall2202 on Apr 13, 2008 1:18 PM CDT up reply actions
Proof of this?
We haven't played any of the above but the Phillies yet. Don't go on last year's results. Geez! They've played ELEVEN games!
"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx
um
Detroit: 2-9
Boston: 6-6
Cleveland: 4-7
Seattle: 6-6
Colorado: 4-7
They must all have to be making a ton of deals too
Finally!
This is why I love wannabe-managers
In April.
There is no place like Nebraska - Go Huskers!
by sanantonecub on Apr 13, 2008 1:23 PM CDT up reply actions
Agreed, but even then
It's still fixable, even if no big trade is made and everyone complains we're just bringing in worse players (see: 2007)
There is no place like Nebraska - Go Huskers!
by sanantonecub on Apr 13, 2008 1:25 PM CDT up reply actions
Coste
I played at Kishwaukee CC the year after Coste and even I never heard of him until this series and his book!
bunt
They shoulda scored on that one. a bit of a break.
wow
thank god runner didn't go home, he could have tap danced in
this series has been pretty ugly
i'm ok with the sweep at this point, i just want to get out of philly, pretty much how i felt when i lived there
by dogcatratcheese on Apr 13, 2008 1:14 PM CDT reply actions
U should know better by now
" I want to point something out in the quickly-becoming-tiresome Old Media vs. Bloggers debate: most stuff sucks. All stuff. In all forms. Most books suck. Most movies suck. Most magazines suck. Most trees likely suck if you get to know them. Fish, bugs, various metals -- they all probably mostly suck". - FJM 4/6/8
Theriot
He really better get his act together soon. I really want him to do well but I'm starting to be pessimistic about him
Finally!
Ugh
The Cubs game so far is exemplified by the lackadaisical run to cover home by Marquis
well the brewers are getting beat up on at least
Every player should be accorded the privilege of at least one season with the Chicago Cubs. That's baseball as it should be played - in God's own sunshine. And that's really living."
OT: Doesn't moyer look like Chris Cooper?
"When you have a fat friend there are no see-saws, only catapults." --Demetri Martin
This game doesn't feel very good right now.
Even if they get out of this inning, Marquis has already thrown a ton of pitches.
"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx
Even if Marquis suddenly becomes Cy Young..our offense is doing nothing
absolutely stinking
Not to mention he seems to think the pitches go outside the imaginary box.
"I tell you, Steve Blass, you pitch me inside, they never, never find that ball."
-Roberto Clemente
Looks like we'll be seeing Hill today
" I want to point something out in the quickly-becoming-tiresome Old Media vs. Bloggers debate: most stuff sucks. All stuff. In all forms. Most books suck. Most movies suck. Most magazines suck. Most trees likely suck if you get to know them. Fish, bugs, various metals -- they all probably mostly suck". - FJM 4/6/8
anybody have a pitch count for marquis?
by dogcatratcheese on Apr 13, 2008 1:18 PM CDT reply actions
21 Balls, too
"I tell you, Steve Blass, you pitch me inside, they never, never find that ball."
-Roberto Clemente
BOOOOOOOOOO
MARQUIS JUST HAD TO GET OUT OF THE INNING WITHOUT GIVING UP A RUN!! WHAT A LOSER!!
Finally!
Charlie Manuel, aka "Red Devil" in Japan
Charlie Manuel, Philly skipper, spent 6 years in Japanese league and known as "Red Devil"... That late 1976-81 and I slighty remember how he played...
He's got HBP in his chin and played with football face mask like this....
Too sleepy and I will watch next Dome at bat in my dream...
That cartoon is hilarious!
You're forgiven for being sleepy. What time is it there, 4:20 am?
"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx
Question
is Marquis's velocity down as well?
"Chicago baseball fans, who are composites of scar tissue and mortifying memories..." - George F. Will
Since when was it ever up
" I want to point something out in the quickly-becoming-tiresome Old Media vs. Bloggers debate: most stuff sucks. All stuff. In all forms. Most books suck. Most movies suck. Most magazines suck. Most trees likely suck if you get to know them. Fish, bugs, various metals -- they all probably mostly suck". - FJM 4/6/8
FB Between
85 & 88...
"When you have a fat friend there are no see-saws, only catapults." --Demetri Martin
Moyer hasn't
topped 80
"When you have a fat friend there are no see-saws, only catapults." --Demetri Martin
was it ever good???
cant believe he has been with us for four years now!!!!
There we go Hank!
"Hey Chicago what do you say the Cubs are gonna win today"
if this game turns bad quick
i think im gonna watch the masters
by BelieveinBlue2314 on Apr 13, 2008 1:21 PM CDT reply actions
I'm not Gerald Perry or anything
But maybe the Cubs should approach each ab and go the other way with it instead of trying to pull every GD pitch
" I want to point something out in the quickly-becoming-tiresome Old Media vs. Bloggers debate: most stuff sucks. All stuff. In all forms. Most books suck. Most movies suck. Most magazines suck. Most trees likely suck if you get to know them. Fish, bugs, various metals -- they all probably mostly suck". - FJM 4/6/8
Anyone hear Gerald Perry speak at the Convention?
I hope to god he just didnt want to reveal anything cause he didnt sound smart for being in the MLB at all.
72mph changeup
Ha
"I tell you, Steve Blass, you pitch me inside, they never, never find that ball."
-Roberto Clemente
BA above DLee
:P
"I tell you, Steve Blass, you pitch me inside, they never, never find that ball."
-Roberto Clemente
good call Al
horrible hitters will get hits today
by BelieveinBlue2314 on Apr 13, 2008 1:22 PM CDT reply actions
OK, now Soriano gets to hit with someone on base.
Can he do it?
"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx
guilt
any one feel guilty raising their kids cubs fans? i have a new born and i am afraid this may constitutehours of therapy when he is older
Yeah. I feel guilty.
On the other hand, it gives them a kind of "existential angst", and a more philosophical outlook on life that it is full of disappointments :-)
This team is so frustrating
Can't even lay down a sac bunt,.....routinely that shiat happens with this friggen team
" I want to point something out in the quickly-becoming-tiresome Old Media vs. Bloggers debate: most stuff sucks. All stuff. In all forms. Most books suck. Most movies suck. Most magazines suck. Most trees likely suck if you get to know them. Fish, bugs, various metals -- they all probably mostly suck". - FJM 4/6/8
And Marquis wonders...
Why he gets left off playoff rosters.
"The one that invent the light tried 2,000 times and finally he did it, we have light...I don't want to spend 2,000 times to win Opening Day" Carlos Zambrano
Cummon Fonso
"I tell you, Steve Blass, you pitch me inside, they never, never find that ball."
-Roberto Clemente
We Need a 450 footer...
...fair, of course.
Jacque Jones is gone, and I doubt Ivan DeJesus would mind this!
Game Is Tied...
... had Marquis executed.
Jacque Jones is gone, and I doubt Ivan DeJesus would mind this!
Nice audio
Sounds like they are on an airplane.
Cubs
Obviously losing sucks. But its one thing to get beat, its another to play poor defense, fail to execute fundamentals, and just generally look like you haven't left spring training. This team is long on talent, but they as a group just don't do the little things right that lead you win consistently.
What is the point of this post?
This game isn't even close to over. In fact, it's now tied.
"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx
not about this game
Not referring to this paricular game, but to the team in general.
Funny, we said the same thing
About last years team before they ran off some of the best months of cubs baseball we've seen.
There is no place like Nebraska - Go Huskers!
by sanantonecub on Apr 13, 2008 1:26 PM CDT up reply actions
A rally in the third
Marvelous!
There is no place like Nebraska - Go Huskers!
by sanantonecub on Apr 13, 2008 1:26 PM CDT up reply actions
Nice...
Good send, I thought Q would hold him up for sure.
"The one that invent the light tried 2,000 times and finally he did it, we have light...I don't want to spend 2,000 times to win Opening Day" Carlos Zambrano
You can't throw out Hank White sir
Just the idea that he's running on you causes you to bobble it.
We're gonna win it all!!
"When you have a fat friend there are no see-saws, only catapults." --Demetri Martin
GREAT send
love it. put pressure on the defense.
Use his power against him, DLee!!
"I tell you, Steve Blass, you pitch me inside, they never, never find that ball."
-Roberto Clemente
I think he would've been safe w/o the bobble
"The one that invent the light tried 2,000 times and finally he did it, we have light...I don't want to spend 2,000 times to win Opening Day" Carlos Zambrano
how cool would that be
if lee took him outright now
by BelieveinBlue2314 on Apr 13, 2008 1:27 PM CDT reply actions
I think this umps. zone has been a little too inconssitent for my taste
seems like Moyer is getting a lot of BS on the outside corner
"Hey Chicago what do you say the Cubs are gonna win today"
Because he's crafty
"The one that invent the light tried 2,000 times and finally he did it, we have light...I don't want to spend 2,000 times to win Opening Day" Carlos Zambrano
by CubsBullsBears on Apr 13, 2008 1:29 PM CDT up reply actions
Might be time to get a new thread going
" I want to point something out in the quickly-becoming-tiresome Old Media vs. Bloggers debate: most stuff sucks. All stuff. In all forms. Most books suck. Most movies suck. Most magazines suck. Most trees likely suck if you get to know them. Fish, bugs, various metals -- they all probably mostly suck". - FJM 4/6/8
new thread will post in 30 minutes.
is it getting that slow? I can move it up.
"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx
Still working fine for me
There is no place like Nebraska - Go Huskers!
by sanantonecub on Apr 13, 2008 1:30 PM CDT up reply actions
C'Mon
"I tell you, Steve Blass, you pitch me inside, they never, never find that ball."
-Roberto Clemente
Gotta Ca$h More In Here...
Good AB so far for DLee
Jacque Jones is gone, and I doubt Ivan DeJesus would mind this!
yes
" I want to point something out in the quickly-becoming-tiresome Old Media vs. Bloggers debate: most stuff sucks. All stuff. In all forms. Most books suck. Most movies suck. Most magazines suck. Most trees likely suck if you get to know them. Fish, bugs, various metals -- they all probably mostly suck". - FJM 4/6/8
wtg Lee
" I want to point something out in the quickly-becoming-tiresome Old Media vs. Bloggers debate: most stuff sucks. All stuff. In all forms. Most books suck. Most movies suck. Most magazines suck. Most trees likely suck if you get to know them. Fish, bugs, various metals -- they all probably mostly suck". - FJM 4/6/8
It's only the third inning.
Can't move it up too much, or the overflow will get too busy.
"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx
Wooo!
Alright DLEE
"The one that invent the light tried 2,000 times and finally he did it, we have light...I don't want to spend 2,000 times to win Opening Day" Carlos Zambrano
Spoken like a true cubs fan, in mid-April
"I tell you, Steve Blass, you pitch me inside, they never, never find that ball."
-Roberto Clemente
all right!
D-Lee!!
"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx
wow, i really love d-lee, i don't think
anything makes me happier than a huge clutch D-Lee double
by dogcatratcheese on Apr 13, 2008 1:31 PM CDT reply actions
C'mon DLee
A double isn't good enough! I demand you hit a home run!
"Confidence is what you have before you understand the problem." Woody Allen
Winning is funner!
"When you have a fat friend there are no see-saws, only catapults." --Demetri Martin
Get That Runner In...
...A-Ram!
Brewers tied it in NY... 6-6.
Jacque Jones is gone, and I doubt Ivan DeJesus would mind this!
I love it when the Philly crowd goes all quiet
The BBC would like to apologize for the next announcement. -- Monty Python
yes
"I tell you, Steve Blass, you pitch me inside, they never, never find that ball."
-Roberto Clemente
I dont mind losing, we are gonna lose at least 60 games... it is the way we lose games that is so frustraing
I would like you to know
you have been flagged as a troll for your insipid, pointless, irrelevant comments.
"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07
Flagging is enough
That post just put you on his level, though.
There is no place like Nebraska - Go Huskers!
by sanantonecub on Apr 13, 2008 1:35 PM CDT up reply actions
Arrrggghh.
Sadly true.
"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07
How should we lose games?
Is it better to lose lots of close games or just to get blown out? Both have the same result, so who cares how it happens?
There is no place like Nebraska - Go Huskers!
by sanantonecub on Apr 13, 2008 1:34 PM CDT up reply actions
Generally speaking...
...it's better to lose close than it is to lose big, at least if you're trying to predict future performance.
How so?
Sure, losing close means you were in the game, but when you lose big it also makes managers mad and make the team know he won't put up with it anymore.
I don't think there's a better way to lose.
There is no place like Nebraska - Go Huskers!
by sanantonecub on Apr 13, 2008 1:37 PM CDT up reply actions
moyer
is pitching so slow that fuku is almost out of the box when the pitch crosses the plate
how did the brewers tie it up? that sucks
by dogcatratcheese on Apr 13, 2008 1:33 PM CDT reply actions
Is Prince Fielder still homerless this year?
by CubsBall2202 on Apr 13, 2008 1:34 PM CDT up reply actions
I Think Braun Doubled Home...
... two runs.
Jacque Jones is gone, and I doubt Ivan DeJesus would mind this!
yeah, i don't even know why i asked, it's always Braun
by dogcatratcheese on Apr 13, 2008 1:36 PM CDT up reply actions
Damn Lloyd Braun.
"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07
He Actually Singled...
... and took second I guess on a play at the plate.
Jacque Jones is gone, and I doubt Ivan DeJesus would mind this!
Ollie Perez
did not bring his a-game today.
"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07
About 2x his age...
So around 90 pitches
"The one that invent the light tried 2,000 times and finally he did it, we have light...I don't want to spend 2,000 times to win Opening Day" Carlos Zambrano
by CubsBullsBears on Apr 13, 2008 1:36 PM CDT up reply actions
Next year they might let him pitch 92
"I tell you, Steve Blass, you pitch me inside, they never, never find that ball."
-Roberto Clemente
He's basically throwing accurate batting practice pitches
67mph curveball
"I tell you, Steve Blass, you pitch me inside, they never, never find that ball."
-Roberto Clemente
He's been throwing that slop for years.
Amazing that anyone still swings at it.
"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx
Charlie Hough
approves of this method.
"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07
Nice half inning
"When you have a fat friend there are no see-saws, only catapults." --Demetri Martin
Howard can move
for a big man...
"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07
I wonder if Philly fans...
Tear into him like some of us do Aramis.
"The one that invent the light tried 2,000 times and finally he did it, we have light...I don't want to spend 2,000 times to win Opening Day" Carlos Zambrano
by CubsBullsBears on Apr 13, 2008 1:40 PM CDT up reply actions
I'd say yes,
after all, these are the people who boo'ed Santa Claus.
"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07
need at least 6 from Jason today
innings that is, not earned runs
Every player should be accorded the privilege of at least one season with the Chicago Cubs. That's baseball as it should be played - in God's own sunshine. And that's really living."
That Was a Nice Running Play...
... too bad he can't play everyday.
Jacque Jones is gone, and I doubt Ivan DeJesus would mind this!
nice running catch reed
through the big hitters
2 down
"I tell you, Steve Blass, you pitch me inside, they never, never find that ball."
-Roberto Clemente
with a hold from wuertz and marmol
with kerry saving it
"Hey Chicago what do you say the Cubs are gonna win today"
there we go marquis
a quick effective inning, omg it CAN be done!
reed
I vote Reed stays in the lineup permanently
He's Not An Everyday Player...
...he's a great platoon player, though.
Jacque Jones is gone, and I doubt Ivan DeJesus would mind this!
Pie
He's been much more effective than Pie so far.
Especially in ...
A.P.R.I.L.
Sheesh.
"Confidence is what you have before you understand the problem." Woody Allen
You should of seen last year
Sue had to start up alternate game threads for those who didn't want to listen to b*tching from those who don't know anything.
There is no place like Nebraska - Go Huskers!
by sanantonecub on Apr 13, 2008 1:43 PM CDT up reply actions
yeah I was here for that
I'm a whole lot different than last year. I was a HUGE basher last season..
Finally!
is it any suprise, they were playing really ugly ball
and now they're playing better, what's wrong with people reacting to bad play?
by dogcatratcheese on Apr 13, 2008 1:43 PM CDT up reply actions
exactly
Completely agree. I refuse to blisfully be happy when they play poorly. Play hard, execute, and let the chips fall where they may.
thank you, i personally get a little tired of the self righteous "positive people"
by dogcatratcheese on Apr 13, 2008 1:46 PM CDT up reply actions
look I don't care if you are frustrated with this team
but tons of people come on here and have comments that only bash the team and have no thought behind them whatsoever.
Finally!
Thought
Not directed to you personally, but it takes more intelligence to know which of our players are good/playing well and which ones are below average instead of just believing they are all all-stars like some 'fans.'
Who thinks
our players are all all-stars? I don't think there is anyone on here who thinks that. We all see thesame thing when we watch the games. I just don't see the need to bash players constantly and bitch about everything.
i agree, some people ONLY make negative comments, they are annoying,
but conversely some people ONLY make positive comments, and then say things about large swaths of posters about how they "don't know anything", personally both groups annoy me, i think it's fine to be upset by poor play, and great to be happy about good play
by dogcatratcheese on Apr 13, 2008 1:50 PM CDT up reply actions
We are
not self righteous or all that positive but what good does it do to bitch about every damn thing? It does not change anything. It just gets old reading people's complaints all the damn time.
Tiger's Even through 4
"When you have a fat friend there are no see-saws, only catapults." --Demetri Martin
LMAO!
I dropped Arroyo from both my fantasy teams last night.
STOP UTLEY.........WIN THE GAME.
SOMEONE SHOOT THAT DAMN PARROT!!!
I'd rather play Fontenot
At least he has his good months...
"I tell you, Steve Blass, you pitch me inside, they never, never find that ball."
-Roberto Clemente
See folks,
We're not the only ones who can come up short on defensive plays
There is no place like Nebraska - Go Huskers!
What is all this "Masters" and "Tiger" talk?
Any game that has the announcers "whispering" is NOT a sport.
Loud, Sustained Applause
I always love how people claim golf is so great becuase of its individuality for the same reason they bash bowling.
There is no place like Nebraska - Go Huskers!
by sanantonecub on Apr 13, 2008 1:49 PM CDT up reply actions
Moyer is so old..
that..
he remembers the Alamo
he knew Ronald McDonald when he was in clown school
scientists claim he's the missing link
he lived at the Gettysburg address
his birthday expired
he has an autographed copy of the bible
when I told him to act his age, he dropped dead
he's in Jesus's yearbook!
rim shots welcome
he swam in the Dead Sea when it was still alive.
"I lost it in the sun"
He's so old he played in the 1933 version of King Kong... Check it
"When you have a fat friend there are no see-saws, only catapults." --Demetri Martin
That is perfect!
n/t
"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx
Moyer
Jamie Moyer is so old, he still refers to Philadelphia by its old name, "The Woods
"I lost it in the sun"
Sugar coating
No true Cubs fan has ever been accused of it so why start now? Call it as you see it!
Overflow thread posts in 10 minutes.
n/t
"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx
RUN, EVERYBODY!!!
Run as fast as you can!!!!!!!
There is no place like Nebraska - Go Huskers!
by sanantonecub on Apr 13, 2008 1:51 PM CDT up reply actions
defense
In fairness, we are third worst in errors in the NL at the moment.
And once again,
It's April! We've played 10 games! The sample size is just way too small. It's like saying Clinton is going to run away with the election based on a poll conducted at a Clinton rally.
There is no place like Nebraska - Go Huskers!
by sanantonecub on Apr 13, 2008 1:56 PM CDT up reply actions
sample size
Agreed on the smaple size, but people who have been critical of the defense to date have a point.
After 11 games?
So what? 10 errors, compared to the league leading Nats who have only 4.
Would you like to trade standing places with them?
"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx
Errors are a horrible way of evaluating defense.
And the season's still young - you need 100 balls in zone to have a good sampling of plays to make judgements on defense.
can he play short?
Every player should be accorded the privilege of at least one season with the Chicago Cubs. That's baseball as it should be played - in God's own sunshine. And that's really living."
Commentary
Did they just make a comment about this park and expecting low scoring games. I thought this park was known as a hitters park?
Off-topic
The Spurs and Lakers tip off in the next hour or so at the Sprint Center, in a game that could send the winner to the fast-track for the 1-seed in the West. Go Spurs Go!
There is no place like Nebraska - Go Huskers!
What is this basketball talk
NBA basketball is about individuals like bowling and golf!
by LT on Apr 13, 2008 1:59 PM CDT up reply actions
For the most part, you're right
But watch San Antonio play today. They are about as good at team-play as you can be.
There is no place like Nebraska - Go Huskers!
by sanantonecub on Apr 13, 2008 2:00 PM CDT up reply actions
Just picking at you
I like college basketball... If I was pulling for a team in the NBA it probably would be the Spurs.
by LT on Apr 13, 2008 2:01 PM CDT up reply actions
Soriano
He`s going to kill someone down the 3b line.
pigs fly
Just checked out the league leaders and I about fell out of my chair when I say Kendall atop the NL in batting average....picture with a Cub hat.
And once again...
It's April with a small sample size, with a guy who's played half his games in a dome! Calm down and step away from the ledge...
There is no place like Nebraska - Go Huskers!
by sanantonecub on Apr 13, 2008 1:57 PM CDT up reply actions
All thanks to LASIK
"Chicago baseball fans, who are composites of scar tissue and mortifying memories..." - George F. Will
If it's that way in month,
well, I still won't fall out of my chair, because Kendall was a really good hitter for a long time before he became a pretty poor one.
"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07
With Two On...
...Kendall did not come through (flies out to CF).
Still 6-6 in the 5th.
Jacque Jones is gone, and I doubt Ivan DeJesus would mind this!
Gametrack makes it look like
Fonso could've taken most of those strikes.
Glad to see him running hard, though.
"I tell you, Steve Blass, you pitch me inside, they never, never find that ball."
-Roberto Clemente
Johnson
seems to fit right in with the other impatient cub hitters.
"When you have a fat friend there are no see-saws, only catapults." --Demetri Martin
ump didnt have the angle/view of howards foot
of course that doesnt matter...
Felix Pie must play everyday!
OMG, an error not by the Cubs
I thought that was IMPOSSIBLE!
There is no place like Nebraska - Go Huskers!
Let's Go Dome!!
How about one of those upper cut swinging homers here?
Jacque Jones is gone, and I doubt Ivan DeJesus would mind this!
wow horrible decision by moyer
we'll take it of course
Karma!
She's a bizzell
"When you have a fat friend there are no see-saws, only catapults." --Demetri Martin
I love our lineup
Lee gets two bases, they walk Ramirez only to face Fukudome!
There is no place like Nebraska - Go Huskers!
Bad decision
I wouldnt walk a scuffling A Ram to pitch to Fukudome
by californiachicagoan on Apr 13, 2008 2:04 PM CDT up reply actions
Is there anything in baseball more frustrating
than the warning track flyball?"
"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07
True.
"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07
Gary Matthews Jr pulling on back from over the wall?
"I tell you, Steve Blass, you pitch me inside, they never, never find that ball."
-Roberto Clemente
Its Werth, I saw his jersey during the trot
SOMEONE SHOOT THAT DAMN PARROT!!!
by Keystone80435 on Apr 13, 2008 2:09 PM CDT up reply actions
At least there was noone on.
"I tell you, Steve Blass, you pitch me inside, they never, never find that ball."
-Roberto Clemente
Utley is a Marquis killer. Stop Utley and ya win the game.
SOMEONE SHOOT THAT DAMN PARROT!!!
by Keystone80435 on Apr 13, 2008 2:10 PM CDT up reply actions
setting up the dp
SOMEONE SHOOT THAT DAMN PARROT!!!
by Keystone80435 on Apr 13, 2008 2:10 PM CDT up reply actions
can we get
cash and a player to be named later out of him?
SOMEONE SHOOT THAT DAMN PARROT!!!
by Keystone80435 on Apr 13, 2008 2:11 PM CDT up reply actions
Or maybe some breakfast cereal?
"I tell you, Steve Blass, you pitch me inside, they never, never find that ball."
-Roberto Clemente
I'd be happy with that
SOMEONE SHOOT THAT DAMN PARROT!!!
by Keystone80435 on Apr 13, 2008 2:12 PM CDT up reply actions
what fun is the overflooow?
SOMEONE SHOOT THAT DAMN PARROT!!!
by Keystone80435 on Apr 13, 2008 2:13 PM CDT up reply actions
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